Good demonstration Sam. There is a little bit of copper in both brass and bronze and shows up when you add the spray. Very cool aged metal effect on your wood pieces. Thanks.
I've been waiting for someone to make a video on this subject since I've first seen this color on facebook a couple of years back! So thank you Sam! Sorry about your incident, sound like you escaped in a good shape, all considered. That was a great lesson and I'll try and get those as soon as I can, I would have loved to hear about your experience, if at all, of applying a finish over these. Thank you for sharing Sam, feel well!! Yuval.
+Yuval Lahav Woodturning I have been told by the owners of 10 second studios that I do need to apply a finish over these. I honestly can't remember what I did ha ha. I will address that in a future video thank you Sam
Sam- I've never seen your content or heard of your channel, but I'm subscribing just from your accountability. solid choice my good man. No one is responsible for the foolish actions of others but that doesn't mean we need to leave a trail for someone to follow ours!
+Chris Norman THAT WAS WELL SAID, THANK YOU. WE ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN SAFETY AND FOR WHAT EVER WE DO IN OUR SHOP. I HOPE I REACHED EVERYBODY WITH THE MESSAGE NOT TO TRY THIS THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. Oops, sorry about the caps I'm doing this with mic and didn't notice it Sam
+Tom Stratton Thanks Tom, I wish I had more hours in the day to mess around with every technique and medium. But this is something I will definitely use in the future it is really cool. It goes along with my desire to paint and stain everything I look at. Ha ha Sam
I'd love to see a video on how you gat the mottled finish on that piece. Was it a combination of the different metalic paints? I'm looking to get a similar effect for my kitchen wall and I've had a can of the copper paint and activator for near on a year, but I'm nervous to start. I may get the bronze and iron paint too, and try some test boards.
that's very nice ,that remain me some very old vases that I saw in some museums in the middle East and in South East Asia, that is nothing short of being very beautiful and artistic , I wish I had your knowledge in wood finishing, you are very informative with genius stuff. have a nice turning day,,,regards
thanks for the finishing tips! about your hollowing technique... perhaps pipe straps tightened on the outer ends will help stabilize the 4 sections? I think your onto something good with that idea. thanks again for all your great content!
+Tom Savadel Thanks for the idea. I do think it's still a good approach but I do need to do some more thinking about it. I do think the pipe clamps might help or even duct tape. This happened so quickly I had no time to get out of the way. I was very lucky thanks
+Mike Waldt thanks very much for watching Mike. Sam Wyoming
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Aloha Sam! Have you, or can you point me to another source where turnings have been carved to mimic sheet metal or adorned (rivets) to look like actual metal before painting? I've turned some boxes and I'm waiting for my paint to arrive. Pretty stoked about trying them out.
One place I have seen something similar is airbrushing on cars or motorcycles. You may not want to do this but is gives you an idea how it could be done. I have not really seen anything carved. Sam
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Thanks Sam. That's actually good to know. My paints literally just arrived minutes ago and I can't wait to get started. I live in Hawaii, so your channel and TH-cam is my main source for new ideas and techniques. Thanks for doing what you do.
On the two examples that you show, do you use only one color or do you intersperse with some of the other colors. Great concept for adding interest to pieces. Thank you.
I think the hollowing idea you have is going down the right path. I like that you built it up then roughed it out on the ban saw. I think at that point unstick it and cut out your inside then glue it together. After that you can rough turn the outside and the inside.
Did you ever use more than one of the paints on one piece... And blend where they met? Wondering how that would look. Also I cant find this brand anymore, wish it was still around 😕
Emily Thank you very much for watching my video. First, I often use more than one of the colors. The paint I have used comes in copper, iron, bronze and brass. It is really fun to combine two or three of the colors. You can do this in stages. That is apply one color let it dry and then continue with the next color. These Verday paints I have used for many years are not manufactured anymore. The owner retired. I still have quite a bit of this paint left over it is still good after many years. Regards, Sam
After doing a base coat, say with the copper, when it comes time to sponge would you sponge on more than one of the paints for a mottled effect? Also, how would you finish a wood piece....laquer, poly, ??? Thanks
Yes I would apply more layers of paint. This does work but can backfire as well. You just have to experiment. I finish with Krylon Matt finish. But any clear coat should work. Sam
Can you float this paint on water, maybe swirl two types together, and dip the piece into it? We used that with ceramics in my grade school (lo those many decades ago) to make interesting random patterns. Or does water start the reaction right away? Might be interesting to try, anyway.
+Rez Zircon That is a great idea. I am not sure if that would work. I don't know what this paint has for a base. It may be water? But I think this is worth a try on something like a top. Thanks what a great idea Sam
Hi Rez,The paint is water based so it would just mix with the water. You can create a sludge with the paint and I will be doing a video on some techniques for wood projects and show what I'm talking about. This is a whole new market for us with wood turners and wood workers.Cheryl DarrowTen Seconds Studio
+Cheryl Darrow I wonder if you could float the paint on a clay slurry? not sure what might be a sufficiently dense liquid. What happens if you mix this paint with an oil base? that would float on water. You might have to beat it pretty well to make it stay mixed. Well, when Sam experiments I'm sure we'll see the results. I don't normally like paint overlays on wood but this stuff is sure different.
+Charles “Tim” Reicks Charles, that is a great question. I think the possibilities are endless. That is something I'm going to have to try thanks for the idea. Sam
+Charles “Tim” Reicks Yes these paints can be layered, not mixed. So if you choose to use brass first and then go on top it with dabbing of Iron and then spray with the patina, you get a really cool effect. I use sea sponges for the dabbing so it's an uneven effect instead of a regular sponge. The secret is to play around with the paint and experiment.Cheryl DarrowTen Seconds Studio
Brass and bronze have copper as the base metal which is why all three have copper oxide which has that greenish "rust" color to them. I will say it again. you don't have to make these videos so thank you so much for sharing.
Yes I do. I ordinarily put more than one Color of the paint on. Another cool thing you can do is play around with your basecoat. You can use any paint or stain that you have and whatever color you want for the basecoat. Then apply the metallic paint on top of that allowing some of the base coat to show through it's really a lot of fun. Thanks Sam
+Jerry Andersen Yes I can, the one I really like and I think is the best one out there is called Bionic. If you search eBay or Amazon you'll find many options under $25 thanks Sam
Good question. If you need a shiny finish I would spray something glossy on it. My expeience is that this paint has a fairly rough surface so polishing may not work. Sam
Mumma Toni Momma I did go back and watch some of this video. I need some clarification. At what point in the video did I use the tape? What was I doing? Sam
Wonder if a glued paper joint would be stronger than double stick tape. I know people use it to do split turnings. Don't give up Sam! Just keep wearing that facemask :D
+Pete G For the time being I am thinking about a safer way to do this process. I think one idea might be just to map it out very carefully, bandsaw the outside and the inside, and then glue it all together permanently. I still have those pieces sitting there staring at me thanks Sam
+SkunkTreeCarvings That is a very good question. I honestly don't know. But I do have a feeling that it is water-based. Maybe I'll try to dilute some with water and see what happens. it may go farther thanks Sam
Peachtree WW had the Verday kit on sale so I scooted down there and got one to play with. Maybe I will get lucky with it. I will go down now and put a nut in each bottle!
Hi Sam,Love the video and thanks for using Ten Seconds Studio's VerDay Paints. You do have to spray seal anything you create with these finishes. These paints will last a long time, but like anything will fade if left in sunlight. I have had customers actually paint fountains and then sealed it around 5 times and they still look good. We have done tons of videos on this paint and you can see them at www.tensecondsstudio.com Our primary business is art supplies, but wood is just a surface and this paint goes on everything. I have even used it on fabric and shoes.Thanks AgainCheryl Darrow, ownerTen Seconds Studio
Hi Sam, Thanks so much for doing a video on our VerDay Paints and Patina. Those paints look fabulous on your bowl. Everyone should know that you do have to spray some type of sealer on the wood to stop the reaction and seal the bowl. I usually use Valspar Spray Sealer for the best results. The Copper, Brass and Bronze do have a slight change in patinas as you mentioned with the Bronze being "Bluer" than the other two. The Iron is the number one seller as everyone loves that rust look. We have many videos on our website about this process and really you just slap the paint on, spray it and walk away. This stuff really is brain proof. The only way you can screw this up is if you are a "Brain Surgeon" or a "Nuclear Physicists", then you will make it much too complicated than what the process is. www.tensecondsstudio.com
+Cheryl Darrow . It was very nice of you to comment on my video. The metal reactive paints are very popular with Woodturners now I am seeing it more and more. I will address the sealing process in a later video and make comments on it. I honestly can't remember if I addressed this in this particular video. I will have to go back and look. I do like to use Matte finish by Krylon. I had two comments and questions about the paint. One; does it have a shelf llife. Two, is it water-based? If you have any other hints for me that I can pass on to my subscribers I would love to hear them. Perhaps something I left out or something I did not do correctly. I really have not had a lot of experience with this paint but I love it, thank you for your comment Sam
All paints have a shelf life and these are no exception. I would use them within a year of buying them. The iron paint is the strongest of the three for smell as it has iron particles in it. The paints are water based and a small amount of water can be mixed in with the paint. However, the amount of water/paint ratio would be 1 part water to 4 parts paint. Hope that helps. and check out more videos at www.tensecondsstudio.com
Pablo Nice to hear from you. Yes I do use a topcoat. Although I find this paint very durable I think it is wise to put something over the top of it. So far I don't like to make it shiny. So I use something that's a little less shiny. One finish that I have discovered and like a lot is called Matt finish it is made by Krylon. I can put four or five coats of this on and it doesn't look like there is anything on the surface. Thanks Sam
Sam: Thanks, just what I was looking for. I agree that the top coat cannot be shiny, it would take away the effect of the metal paint. Hope to see you soon.
+David Morgan Hi Dave, I got a fat lip to go along with my fathead ha ha. I think one of the big problems I was using a very heavy wood and once it started to come apart there was no stopping it. It was very dramatic and I was very lucky I was wearing my face shield. Barry should be very happy about that ha ha again thanks
Great video but I have never found a paint I like a well as I like wood I try to leave my wood as natural as it can be. Very interesting technic just not for me
+Jerry Puckett I agree with you. But somewhere along the way I went in the wrong direction with coloring. I did come to the conclusion at one point that some wood needs to be painted. Maybe it's arrogance on my part that I can make it look better. But I think at least it is An option. This is a very interesting technique and fun to do thanks for watching. Sam
I tried to add a positive comment twice but was shut off. I also tried to add a comment toMike Walt but became jibberish. Will try again soonl................Keith
Good demonstration Sam. There is a little bit of copper in both brass and bronze and shows up when you add the spray. Very cool aged metal effect on your wood pieces. Thanks.
I've been waiting for someone to make a video on this subject since I've first seen this color on facebook a couple of years back! So thank you Sam! Sorry about your incident, sound like you escaped in a good shape, all considered.
That was a great lesson and I'll try and get those as soon as I can, I would have loved to hear about your experience, if at all, of applying a finish over these.
Thank you for sharing Sam, feel well!!
Yuval.
+Yuval Lahav Woodturning
I have been told by the owners of 10 second studios that I do need to apply a finish over these. I honestly can't remember what I did ha ha. I will address that in a future video thank you Sam
Sam- I've never seen your content or heard of your channel, but I'm subscribing just from your accountability. solid choice my good man. No one is responsible for the foolish actions of others but that doesn't mean we need to leave a trail for someone to follow ours!
+Chris Norman
THAT WAS WELL SAID, THANK YOU. WE ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN SAFETY AND FOR WHAT EVER WE DO IN OUR SHOP. I HOPE I REACHED EVERYBODY WITH THE MESSAGE NOT TO TRY THIS THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. Oops, sorry about the caps I'm doing this with mic and didn't notice it Sam
Great to see your process Sam. It would be great to see where you are with the paint's in six months time...
Tom
+Tom Stratton
Thanks Tom, I wish I had more hours in the day to mess around with every technique and medium. But this is something I will definitely use in the future it is really cool. It goes along with my desire to paint and stain everything I look at. Ha ha Sam
I'd love to see a video on how you gat the mottled finish on that piece. Was it a combination of the different metalic paints? I'm looking to get a similar effect for my kitchen wall and I've had a can of the copper paint and activator for near on a year, but I'm nervous to start. I may get the bronze and iron paint too, and try some test boards.
that's very nice ,that remain me some very old vases that I saw in some museums in the middle East and in South East Asia, that is nothing short of being very beautiful and artistic , I wish I had your knowledge in wood finishing, you are very informative with genius stuff. have a nice turning day,,,regards
+Germain Rioux
Thanks for the kind words. sam
Nice!!! Glad you weren't seriously injured. Keep up the good work and I'm looking forward to see what type of finish you apply. Lacquer? Thanks! Rick
Was watching your feature on pricing and caught your mention of Verday paints. Thanks for this feature...a nice side car to turned wood designs. Mike
thanks for the finishing tips! about your hollowing technique... perhaps pipe straps tightened on the outer ends will help stabilize the 4 sections? I think your onto something good with that idea. thanks again for all your great content!
+Tom Savadel
Thanks for the idea. I do think it's still a good approach but I do need to do some more thinking about it. I do think the pipe clamps might help or even duct tape. This happened so quickly I had no time to get out of the way. I was very lucky thanks
some very good questions here. Looking forward to the answers.
Great video and ideas.
Nice work when you finished the rust painting do you put a coat over the top off it so it will not rub off thanks adrian
A very informative video Sam, some very cool effects achieved.
Take care
Mike
+Mike Waldt thanks very much for watching Mike.
Sam Wyoming
Aloha Sam! Have you, or can you point me to another source where turnings have been carved to mimic sheet metal or adorned (rivets) to look like actual metal before painting? I've turned some boxes and I'm waiting for my paint to arrive. Pretty stoked about trying them out.
One place I have seen something similar is airbrushing on cars or motorcycles. You may not want to do this but is gives you an idea how it could be done. I have not really seen anything carved. Sam
Thanks Sam. That's actually good to know. My paints literally just arrived minutes ago and I can't wait to get started. I live in Hawaii, so your channel and TH-cam is my main source for new ideas and techniques. Thanks for doing what you do.
On the two examples that you show, do you use only one color or do you intersperse with some of the other colors. Great concept for adding interest to pieces. Thank you.
+Gene Bushey
I did use several or all the colors on these pieces. I can't remember which colors. Sam
great video - but what did you use to seal and do the final finish? ...or did you just leave as is?
+John Mutz
I use either Matt Finish by Krylon or a satin lacquer. But it should be sealed. Sam
I think the hollowing idea you have is going down the right path. I like that you built it up then roughed it out on the ban saw. I think at that point unstick it and cut out your inside then glue it together. After that you can rough turn the outside and the inside.
Hi Sam. You unlocked a secret for me. It is like David Marks special patina. Thanks for sharing with us. Marc
+Marc 's Oneway of turning
David Marks is amazing. I have learned much from him and his old show. I actually have met him a couple of times. Sam
Did you ever use more than one of the paints on one piece... And blend where they met? Wondering how that would look.
Also I cant find this brand anymore, wish it was still around 😕
Emily
Thank you very much for watching my video. First, I often use more than one of the colors. The paint I have used comes in copper, iron, bronze and brass. It is really fun to combine two or three of the colors. You can do this in stages. That is apply one color let it dry and then continue with the next color. These Verday paints I have used for many years are not manufactured anymore. The owner retired. I still have quite a bit of this paint left over it is still good after many years. Regards, Sam
Great info Sam. I will have to try that for sure.
After doing a base coat, say with the copper, when it comes time to sponge would you sponge on more than one of the paints for a mottled effect? Also, how would you finish a wood piece....laquer, poly, ??? Thanks
Yes I would apply more layers of paint. This does work but can backfire as well. You just have to experiment. I finish with Krylon Matt finish. But any clear coat should work. Sam
Just subbed, those look amazing. Nice to find a fellow Wyomingite with a good channel.
+Scorpiuszeroone thank you very much. Where are you in Wyoming? Sam
Yes Sir, I'm down closer to Cheyenne.
Can you float this paint on water, maybe swirl two types together, and dip the piece into it? We used that with ceramics in my grade school (lo those many decades ago) to make interesting random patterns. Or does water start the reaction right away? Might be interesting to try, anyway.
+Rez Zircon
That is a great idea. I am not sure if that would work. I don't know what this paint has for a base. It may be water? But I think this is worth a try on something like a top. Thanks what a great idea Sam
Hi Rez,The paint is water based so it would just mix with the water. You can create a sludge with the paint and I will be doing a video on some techniques for wood projects and show what I'm talking about. This is a whole new market for us with wood turners and wood workers.Cheryl DarrowTen Seconds Studio
+Cheryl Darrow
I wonder if you could float the paint on a clay slurry? not sure what might be a sufficiently dense liquid.
What happens if you mix this paint with an oil base? that would float on water. You might have to beat it pretty well to make it stay mixed.
Well, when Sam experiments I'm sure we'll see the results. I don't normally like paint overlays on wood but this stuff is sure different.
Thanks for including this part of finishing. Really good looks. Can you mix these paints together for different effects? Keep up the good work.
+Charles “Tim” Reicks
Charles, that is a great question. I think the possibilities are endless. That is something I'm going to have to try thanks for the idea. Sam
+Charles “Tim” Reicks Yes these paints can be layered, not mixed. So if you choose to use brass first and then go on top it with dabbing of Iron and then spray with the patina, you get a really cool effect. I use sea sponges for the dabbing so it's an uneven effect instead of a regular sponge. The secret is to play around with the paint and experiment.Cheryl DarrowTen Seconds Studio
Brass and bronze have copper as the base metal which is why all three have copper oxide which has that greenish "rust" color to them. I will say it again. you don't have to make these videos so thank you so much for sharing.
+James Templeton
That is good information. It answers questions about these turning a particular color thanks Sam
Do you use more than 1 metallic paint on each vessel to get the variation in color? Thank you! Looks great!!
Yes I do. I ordinarily put more than one Color of the paint on. Another cool thing you can do is play around with your basecoat. You can use any paint or stain that you have and whatever color you want for the basecoat. Then apply the metallic paint on top of that allowing some of the base coat to show through it's really a lot of fun. Thanks Sam
I just ordered a kit! This product seems versatile...thanks a bunch!!
Thank you so much! Who makes a nice matt spray finish? (I'm an artist and interesting in using these paints in my abstract work)
they turn those certain colours because thats how those metals rust (oxidises) also it looks like the baghdad battery
Sam can you recommend a brand of face shield? I am in need of a new one Thank you.
+Jerry Andersen
Yes I can, the one I really like and I think is the best one out there is called Bionic. If you search eBay or Amazon you'll find many options under $25 thanks Sam
Say Sam, can these be polished after using the metal reactive paint for a shiny finish or are you stuck with a dull finish? Thanks
Good question. If you need a shiny finish I would spray something glossy on it. My expeience is that this paint has a fairly rough surface so polishing may not work. Sam
Is that for just small vessels and double sided tape or is that all things including jewellery pendant too. Just seeking clarification please
Mumma Toni
Momma
I did go back and watch some of this video. I need some clarification. At what point in the video did I use the tape? What was I doing?
Sam
Ok I did find the reference to double stick tape. DoNOT do that procedure it is unsafe. Sam
WYOMINGWOODTURNER ok thanks matey note taken
Look in the vessel the reaction looks like a fox's face or some fur animal. Very cute and neat thanks for showing
Is there a shelf life on the metallic paints?
+Doug Robins that's a great question I will try to find out any answer thank you I'll address that in a future video Sam
Wow this is a Great idea Thanks for sharing
Wonder if a glued paper joint would be stronger than double stick tape. I know people use it to do split turnings. Don't give up Sam! Just keep wearing that facemask :D
+Pete G
For the time being I am thinking about a safer way to do this process. I think one idea might be just to map it out very carefully, bandsaw the outside and the inside, and then glue it all together permanently. I still have those pieces sitting there staring at me thanks Sam
Hi Sam very nice project and technics
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thanks
joao
+joao antonio santos
Thank you very much for watching. I appreciated it
Sam
THANKS SAM GREAT VIDEO. I LIKED ENOUGH THAT I JUST ORDER THE PAINT KIT, ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT TOM
+Tom Canada
I think you will have fun with these paints.
Sam
is the paint water base..?
+SkunkTreeCarvings
That is a very good question. I honestly don't know. But I do have a feeling that it is water-based. Maybe I'll try to dilute some with water and see what happens. it may go farther thanks Sam
Peachtree WW had the Verday kit on sale so I scooted down there and got one to play with. Maybe I will get lucky with it. I will go down now and put a nut in each bottle!
Thanks Sam
Hi Sam,Love the video and thanks for using Ten Seconds Studio's VerDay Paints. You do have to spray seal anything you create with these finishes. These paints will last a long time, but like anything will fade if left in sunlight. I have had customers actually paint fountains and then sealed it around 5 times and they still look good. We have done tons of videos on this paint and you can see them at www.tensecondsstudio.com Our primary business is art supplies, but wood is just a surface and this paint goes on everything. I have even used it on fabric and shoes.Thanks AgainCheryl Darrow, ownerTen Seconds Studio
Hi Sam, Thanks so much for doing a video on our VerDay Paints and Patina. Those paints look fabulous on your bowl. Everyone should know that you do have to spray some type of sealer on the wood to stop the reaction and seal the bowl. I usually use Valspar Spray Sealer for the best results. The Copper, Brass and Bronze do have a slight change in patinas as you mentioned with the Bronze being "Bluer" than the other two. The Iron is the number one seller as everyone loves that rust look. We have many videos on our website about this process and really you just slap the paint on, spray it and walk away. This stuff really is brain proof. The only way you can screw this up is if you are a "Brain Surgeon" or a "Nuclear Physicists", then you will make it much too complicated than what the process is. www.tensecondsstudio.com
+Cheryl Darrow .
It was very nice of you to comment on my video. The metal reactive paints are very popular with Woodturners now I am seeing it more and more. I will address the sealing process in a later video and make comments on it. I honestly can't remember if I addressed this in this particular video. I will have to go back and look. I do like to use Matte finish by Krylon.
I had two comments and questions about the paint. One; does it have a shelf llife. Two, is it water-based?
If you have any other hints for me that I can pass on to my subscribers I would love to hear them. Perhaps something I left out or something I did not do correctly. I really have not had a lot of experience with this paint but I love it, thank you for your comment Sam
All paints have a shelf life and these are no exception. I would use them within a year of buying them. The iron paint is the strongest of the three for smell as it has iron particles in it. The paints are water based and a small amount of water can be mixed in with the paint. However, the amount of water/paint ratio would be 1 part water to 4 parts paint. Hope that helps. and check out more videos at www.tensecondsstudio.com
Sam: Do you apply a finish on top of the metal paint. Lacquer? Shellac?
Pablo
Nice to hear from you. Yes I do use a topcoat. Although I find this paint very durable I think it is wise to put something over the top of it. So far I don't like to make it shiny. So I use something that's a little less shiny. One finish that I have discovered and like a lot is called Matt finish it is made by Krylon. I can put four or five coats of this on and it doesn't look like there is anything on the surface. Thanks Sam
Sam: Thanks, just what I was looking for. I agree that the top coat cannot be shiny, it would take away the effect of the metal paint. Hope to see you soon.
Really a shame about your hollowing video. I was looking forward trying it. Thanks
+Tom Wilcox
Thanks Tom. For the time being please don't do it thanks Sam
Nice Video, Sam
Sorry about your fat lip Sam! Glad it was " only" a fat lip! Guess that wouldn't have been a good idea for my hickory urn!
Take care, Dave
+David Morgan
Hi Dave, I got a fat lip to go along with my fathead ha ha. I think one of the big problems I was using a very heavy wood and once it started to come apart there was no stopping it. It was very dramatic and I was very lucky I was wearing my face shield. Barry should be very happy about that ha ha again thanks
Great video but I have never found a paint I like a well as I like wood I try to leave my wood as natural as it can be.
Very interesting technic just not for me
+Jerry Puckett
I agree with you. But somewhere along the way I went in the wrong direction with coloring. I did come to the conclusion at one point that some wood needs to be painted. Maybe it's arrogance on my part that I can make it look better. But I think at least it is An option. This is a very interesting technique and fun to do thanks for watching. Sam
I tried to add a positive comment twice but was shut off. I also tried to add a comment toMike Walt but became jibberish. Will try again soonl................Keith
Keith
I got this one. Thanks Sam