clipless Shimano ME7 and candy 3 for my Reign E2 & eggbeater 3 for my Stance E2. The shoes run a little to warm at times but other than that great! For me I don't want or need a bigger platform(size 10).
Both, I still love the SPDs sorry for your sponsor I did try them for awhile but didn't like them very much. I'm a fan of the XT pdm8120, didn't find better clip pedals yet... For flats my favorite are the chromag dagga and the shanmashi tank
Flats with stiff low-rise hiking boots for casual dayrides - makes it much easier to put the bike down and hike the last leg of the trail where bikes are not allowed. Walking in clipless shoes is pure torture, almost none of those are designed for dry rocky Arizona trails.
I’m a couple weeks into trying out shimano spds. I’ve only fallen twice 😅 But, after watching your video, I’m really interested in the Crank Brothers system. I might give them a go as well.
I've seen these have really good reviews. I'm leaning towards Hope Union TC. I've never used clipless so not sure what's best for noobs for technical trail and downhill?
My first SPD pedals after riding bikes for 45+ years. 30 years riding MTB with flats, hitting corners like an American flag track motorbike rider. No, not Speedway - (without drive, your crashing} - flat track, is right on the edge of crashing, wearing out the soles of your shoes quicker than your tyres. Great stuff.
Having ridden flats my whole life, I just ordered my first set of clipless pedals and shoes. I'm looking forward to giving them a try. I'd been thinking about it for quite some time. Then a few days ago my foot came off on a jump resulting in a very messed up shin. That was the last bit of convincing I needed to give clips a try. I'm looking forward to seeing what they're like.
I now use Crankbeothers Stomp 1's in Large, with my wide and deep sharp tread mid lightweight thick sole and tread walking boots and the combo works amazingly 👌
Flats user here, and love it. I would still like to try out clipless, if it were not for the high cost of entry - pedals plus shoes. And the result could well be "Naah, not for me", throwing 200€ out of the window.
Clipless for me, but with covid and not going to the office I lived in flip-flops and my feet widened. I had to get rid of my giro MTB shoes I had loved for so long and find something wider, went with some 510s that are more comfortable for walking or driving to the ride but they aren't as supportive and give me hot spots. I may give flats another try.
I went with eggbeaters over 20 years ago due to their simplicity, retention, and mud clearing abilities but found that their mixed platform/clip pedals didn't really work for me. The last ones I tried were the Mallets and they're great pedals but when not clipped in I don't want to accidentally clip back in which happened with the Crankbrother pedals. I've since switched to a true double sided pedal with a clip on one side and clip on the other.
Mallet E is working quite alright for my gravel bike. I needed a pedal to occasionally use with flat shoes and also winter shoe covers are made for cleat based system, and Shimano's pedals distort the middle of the (flat) shoe more than CB's. Only downside is they're pretty heavy for my needs.
I rode clipless for years, mostly XC stuff. I converted to flats & 5-10’s several years years ago when I started riding more aggressively/less intelligently 😂. I’m probably going to break out clipless again for my 130 bike this spring….we’ll see how it goes.
Still learning clips (SPD's) hilarious when I fall over. A good 5-6 times now. Last one was on a mini tech climb. Tipped right over and sort of fell down a hill with my legs straight into the air. Was pretty funny.
I prefer flats, even on my road bike. However, since I live in LA, I wear shorts most of the year. This is a problem, as the pins cut up my legs, especially the right one. Unfortunately, I can't remove the pins from the pedals I have. I guess that's suffering for one's sport.
I definitely enjoy the more enduro specific pedals. Having a wider fore foot; the wider platform cage hits that sweet spot and allows for the option to wear regular shoes too.
Shimano SPDs have different cleats. SH56 are multi-release while SH51 only releases in one direction (yes, you can technically twist your heel inwards far enough and get out of the pedal, but it's not the recommended way).
Deity Deftrap, all day, ecery day 🤙🏻 Id like to try the Supervillain metal pedal, but they, like nearly everyone, doesnt have a bright yellow color.... But also don't have a lighter medium blue color, AND bright medium red (so I can use the same pedal across all 3 of my bikes)... But yeah, no bright yellow pedals seem to exist that arent composites. I have 0 complaints with my Deftraps aside frim the 2 (4) innermost studs are built-in composite studs tather than replaceable metal, for some reason. 🤔🤷🏼
I used to use SPD's twenty years ago but then I started standing all day at work and noticed my feet hurt so I went to flats with sticky bottomed shoes and never looked back.
The biggest problem with clips is the cost of making mistakes. The cost of buying shoes and pedals that may or may not work well for you. If you get a shoe that hurts your feet, you're going to be up a cane creek without a pedal
Easy. 520 SPD for road/xc racing, and Saint flat pedals for anything else. Most flat pedals (even expensive ones) are just crap. They use a single sealing, and water always flushes out the grease.
I've started riding faster, and my feet started coming off my flats recently. Ive never had this happen. I've been considering clipless. I feel if I'm clipped in, it will help my riding and control. Obviously the fear is not having any experience clipping in or out especially at speed.
Just curious sinse crankbrothers cleats are made from brass on average how long would a set of crankbrothers cleats last me if I ride Dh once a week or so?
#askgmbntech I have a SRAM GX Transmission T-Type drivetrain on my full 29er Enduro bike, but finding I need some lower gears on really steep climbs. I currently have a 32 tooth chainring and thinking of buying a 30 tooth chainring to swap in when I know I’m going somewhere with steeper climbs. Can I just swap from 32t to 30t and back again on a SRAM Transmission drivetrain without adjusting the chain length?
Choosing the brand as the primary factor in purchasing new peds? Hmmm. Nothing against Crank Brothers, well maybe a little, but I don't think you wish to invite such an comparison. From Egg Beaters to Flats I have been underplussed by their lack of float and short effective life spans. I would welcome the chance to trail a set of Stamp 11's should you wish to change my opion. Pleeeeeease.
Flats on the ebike, do not need the efficiency nor the flickability clips provide. Clips on the mtb. Been riding clips since they were actually clips with the straps. I have tried flats on my mtb. Too many shin scars and flailing feet in the air. With clips I can flick that bike any way I want. After 40 years of riding clips of all brands I have to say Crank Bros are the worst clip pedals I have ever ridden. Bump a rock on the down stroke and suddenly you are foot free. Hard to get in, hard to get out. I did love the float. I presently ride SPDs with my own custom grind on the cleat. I needed some float for bad knees. Flats have no float. My favorite pedal was the Speedplay Frog. Easy in, easy out, lots of float. Work in mud, snow, sand. All my Frog cleats wore out and they are not made any more. Bummer.
Do you ride 'Flats' or 'Clipless' pedals? Have you tried both already?
Share your thoughts down below! 👇
clipless Shimano ME7 and candy 3 for my Reign E2 & eggbeater 3 for my Stance E2. The shoes run a little to warm at times but other than that great! For me I don't want or need a bigger platform(size 10).
Both, I still love the SPDs sorry for your sponsor I did try them for awhile but didn't like them very much.
I'm a fan of the XT pdm8120, didn't find better clip pedals yet...
For flats my favorite are the chromag dagga and the shanmashi tank
Flats with stiff low-rise hiking boots for casual dayrides - makes it much easier to put the bike down and hike the last leg of the trail where bikes are not allowed. Walking in clipless shoes is pure torture, almost none of those are designed for dry rocky Arizona trails.
As someone who can’t physically use clipless pedals, I am so happy around the new flat pedal styles.
Thank you for this deep dive. As a newbie all these pedal options and technologies are overwhelming. This answered so many of my questions.
Glad it was helpful, which option are you going for? 😁
I’m a couple weeks into trying out shimano spds. I’ve only fallen twice 😅
But, after watching your video, I’m really interested in the Crank Brothers system. I might give them a go as well.
All this video does is make me wanna open my own bike shop. A better bike shop than our current options. A true cyclists bike shop. That's the dream.
Friend of mine did. It's hard work, during the season close to no time for hobbies anymore.
Learn to be a great mechanic and tuner with technical knowledge. This is always in demand.
Thanks, Anna. A really comprehensive review of the different pedal systems.
Shimano m520 spd. One and done. Cheap. Reliable. Solid performance
Try the 8120 if you have a chance (:
@@LawrenceMacMacster I looked at those but went with the PD-8000 for my fat and gravel bikes.
I've seen these have really good reviews. I'm leaning towards Hope Union TC. I've never used clipless so not sure what's best for noobs for technical trail and downhill?
My first SPD pedals after riding bikes for 45+ years. 30 years riding MTB with flats, hitting corners like an American flag track motorbike rider. No, not Speedway - (without drive, your crashing} - flat track, is right on the edge of crashing, wearing out the soles of your shoes quicker than your tyres. Great stuff.
Having ridden flats my whole life, I just ordered my first set of clipless pedals and shoes. I'm looking forward to giving them a try. I'd been thinking about it for quite some time. Then a few days ago my foot came off on a jump resulting in a very messed up shin. That was the last bit of convincing I needed to give clips a try. I'm looking forward to seeing what they're like.
Spraying a dab of some water displacer on the cleats before a soggy / muddy ride has also served well.
I now use Crankbeothers Stomp 1's in Large, with my wide and deep sharp tread mid lightweight thick sole and tread walking boots and the combo works amazingly 👌
Flats user here, and love it. I would still like to try out clipless, if it were not for the high cost of entry - pedals plus shoes. And the result could well be "Naah, not for me", throwing 200€ out of the window.
Clipless for me, but with covid and not going to the office I lived in flip-flops and my feet widened. I had to get rid of my giro MTB shoes I had loved for so long and find something wider, went with some 510s that are more comfortable for walking or driving to the ride but they aren't as supportive and give me hot spots. I may give flats another try.
I went with eggbeaters over 20 years ago due to their simplicity, retention, and mud clearing abilities but found that their mixed platform/clip pedals didn't really work for me. The last ones I tried were the Mallets and they're great pedals but when not clipped in I don't want to accidentally clip back in which happened with the Crankbrother pedals. I've since switched to a true double sided pedal with a clip on one side and clip on the other.
This channel is extremely informative. Thanks a bunch!
I have been a Shimano fan from the beginning. I love me a good pair of Shimano pedals with SPD cleats.
Flats for life
Have you tried clips?
@@gmbntech yeah just couldn't get on with them
Same! I like the flexibility and comfort provided by the pedals and shoes.
@@gmbntech clips are for squares
@@dougnico2492 I agree
Mallet E is working quite alright for my gravel bike. I needed a pedal to occasionally use with flat shoes and also winter shoe covers are made for cleat based system, and Shimano's pedals distort the middle of the (flat) shoe more than CB's. Only downside is they're pretty heavy for my needs.
I rode clipless for years, mostly XC stuff. I converted to flats & 5-10’s several years years ago when I started riding more aggressively/less intelligently 😂. I’m probably going to break out clipless again for my 130 bike this spring….we’ll see how it goes.
Thanks for the deep dive @Anna. I've been using Candy 2 for almost 3 years already. More efficient in pedalling.
Still learning clips (SPD's) hilarious when I fall over. A good 5-6 times now. Last one was on a mini tech climb. Tipped right over and sort of fell down a hill with my legs straight into the air. Was pretty funny.
Hope it didn't hurt too much! Eventually it will be muscle memory to unclip when you start falling 👍
I prefer flats, even on my road bike. However, since I live in LA, I wear shorts most of the year. This is a problem, as the pins cut up my legs, especially the right one. Unfortunately, I can't remove the pins from the pedals I have. I guess that's suffering for one's sport.
I definitely enjoy the more enduro specific pedals. Having a wider fore foot; the wider platform cage hits that sweet spot and allows for the option to wear regular shoes too.
What pedals are you using at the moment? 👀
@@gmbntech CXWXC SPD compatible with large aluminum cages and thin profile. Think XPEDO meets Crankbothers. Something akin to the mallet line.
Bought myself first pair of 5/10 freeride shoes 👞 the grip is immense with v12 pedals
Awesome video, and I still don’t know what clueless pedals I’m going to get!?!
Shimano SPDs have different cleats. SH56 are multi-release while SH51 only releases in one direction (yes, you can technically twist your heel inwards far enough and get out of the pedal, but it's not the recommended way).
Deity Deftrap, all day, ecery day 🤙🏻
Id like to try the Supervillain metal pedal, but they, like nearly everyone, doesnt have a bright yellow color.... But also don't have a lighter medium blue color, AND bright medium red (so I can use the same pedal across all 3 of my bikes)... But yeah, no bright yellow pedals seem to exist that arent composites.
I have 0 complaints with my Deftraps aside frim the 2 (4) innermost studs are built-in composite studs tather than replaceable metal, for some reason. 🤔🤷🏼
I used to use SPD's twenty years ago but then I started standing all day at work and noticed my feet hurt so I went to flats with sticky bottomed shoes and never looked back.
What flats are you using?
@@gmbntech just generic plastic ones. I just ride on pavement now
Never had much luck with the egg beaters. Always bent the cage. Went back to Shimano 520s.
The biggest problem with clips is the cost of making mistakes. The cost of buying shoes and pedals that may or may not work well for you. If you get a shoe that hurts your feet, you're going to be up a cane creek without a pedal
I'd like to try mag-peds just because it's sort of halfway between clipless and flats but are heavy.
When did pedals get so complicated? I must be old.
Is it just me or is Anna getting more beautiful, very entertaining video and great presentation ❤
Shimano do offer easy release cleats they're Shimano 56 with 6 positions to unclip
Easy. 520 SPD for road/xc racing, and Saint flat pedals for anything else. Most flat pedals (even expensive ones) are just crap. They use a single sealing, and water always flushes out the grease.
I love crankbrothers!
How about magnetic pedal?for example Hustle REM
DMR all the way. Got V12s, V8s, Vaults. Plus my feet are too wide for any clip shoes 😂
I've started riding faster, and my feet started coming off my flats recently. Ive never had this happen. I've been considering clipless. I feel if I'm clipped in, it will help my riding and control. Obviously the fear is not having any experience clipping in or out especially at speed.
rode vans for years and as soon as i get my first pair of proper riding shoes ints not even a comparison
If you ask chatgpt to summarize the content of CB site, it will give the same value as this video
Just curious sinse crankbrothers cleats are made from brass on average how long would a set of crankbrothers cleats last me if I ride Dh once a week or so?
Flats. Burgtec MK 5
What about magnetic pedals?
Its easy. Ride flats and buy Deity tmacs.
This video hurts my shins
And got the scars to prove it
👍
Lol
#askgmbntech I have a SRAM GX Transmission T-Type drivetrain on my full 29er Enduro bike, but finding I need some lower gears on really steep climbs. I currently have a 32 tooth chainring and thinking of buying a 30 tooth chainring to swap in when I know I’m going somewhere with steeper climbs. Can I just swap from 32t to 30t and back again on a SRAM Transmission drivetrain without adjusting the chain length?
I ruined 2 pedals, I want to ask, which pedals is good for me as a 100kg rider. I always speeding with mountain bike in the city.
Is crankbrothers gmbn sponsorship?
Crank Brothers is a supporter of the channel 🤘
Choosing the brand as the primary factor in purchasing new peds? Hmmm. Nothing against Crank Brothers, well maybe a little, but I don't think you wish to invite such an comparison. From Egg Beaters to Flats I have been underplussed by their lack of float and short effective life spans. I would welcome the chance to trail a set of Stamp 11's should you wish to change my opion. Pleeeeeease.
A steel axle is actually stronger dan a titanium axle. It's just weight saving.
Has anyone used those magnetic pedals?
wishing crankbros had a power pedal
6:29 Hey what about the left pedal. 😂
Flats on the ebike, do not need the efficiency nor the flickability clips provide. Clips on the mtb. Been riding clips since they were actually clips with the straps. I have tried flats on my mtb. Too many shin scars and flailing feet in the air. With clips I can flick that bike any way I want. After 40 years of riding clips of all brands I have to say Crank Bros are the worst clip pedals I have ever ridden. Bump a rock on the down stroke and suddenly you are foot free. Hard to get in, hard to get out. I did love the float. I presently ride SPDs with my own custom grind on the cleat. I needed some float for bad knees. Flats have no float. My favorite pedal was the Speedplay Frog. Easy in, easy out, lots of float. Work in mud, snow, sand. All my Frog cleats wore out and they are not made any more. Bummer.
You won't go wrong with Shimano M520
DMR FLAT's all the way...Won't consider using anything else...The best pedals out there,fit n forget...Quality..Ha!!
Great choice, what shoes have you paired them up with?
Longer pedals should be the norm put it under the whole foot.
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😂😅 # E.T , APRENDA A FALAR PORTUGUÊS 🇧🇷 # .
It’s 2024, find a better name for the pedal that you clip in to
We don't make the rules 🤷♂️
Where are my OG presenters ? GMBN you are failing
'clipless' is a bit of an oxymoron, as you are 'clipped in' when riding, lol
Flats all the way
Clipped in for the win. . . A no brainer really