@ThinkTooMuch69 not if you lazy taterheads would use this fancy space age device called a drag and maintain your shit🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ take your bs driveway elsewhere I'll save my money drink a beer and drive my wheeler around twice a year pulling a $20 driveway drag 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@destynova4512 I have had a regular drive outside my house for about twenty years. I have experienced precisely zero problems with it in that time. If I *had* problems with it, then I guess I'd have just installed a tarmac drive. Both options are cheap (or cheaper at least, though I'm just guessing from what I've seen how much that fancy gravel driveway costs), work perfectly well and are not very labor-intensive.
Ok, go stick in concrete... oh no, you've just spent $20k and now you have to rip it out because you don't understand permeability requirements... (also the person that made the driveway didn't understand them either or would have used washed rock). There are places you just can't go sticking in as much surface as you would like, no matter what you think your god given rights are.
@@GX2reoh really now? Bc im willing to be you money right now that i can get a quote from 2 different companies that says otherwise on the cost of installing this bullshit over concrete
Compacted crushed stone isn’t permeable. My company installs permeable paver systems and I can tell you that system doesn’t work the way the voiceover claims. You have to use a washed stone base…not crushed. The weed barrier is permeable, but the stone isn’t.
They installed this system at a new building for my company. It was like driving through slush, threw up rocks that broke windows, and the plastic grid started to come up out of the rocks after only a few weeks. In less than a year it was completely ripped out and replaced with concrete. EDIT: For everyone saying that we drove on it wrong, or went too fast, or there was too much traffic. The only way into the area was through a security gate that you needed a code for. We moved into the offices in August 2022, but the building was not yet open to the public. (As of this writing: January 2024, it still isn't.) For the majority of the time, the staff of 3 were the only ones in the building. Within a month of the offices being opened, management was already talking about having the gravel replaced with concrete.
Sounds like it would only be good in driveways(small and very low speed), as opposed to parking lots. I also wonder if the prep was incorrect in the case you described.
@@mikemccausland6587 The issue with flying rock was due to them getting into the grass and them being thrown when the grass was cut. There was no way to be certain there were no rocks anywhere in the grass because they would be picked up and carried the car tires or in your shoes. (We parked on the grass, which just made it worse.) They ended up everywhere, including up inside the framework of the cars driving over it.
There is a house with a permeable driveway about half a mile down the road from me. I guess it's about eight years now and there are ruts in it. The shiny gravel is still mostly there, but the gravel has spread out a bit in all directions especially towards the street. Theirs is permeable because it had washed aggregate where the fines were removed. Some weeds can grow on it as winds, tree sap, cottonwood, pollen, mold, etc over the years have deposited enough material to allow weeds to grow in it. The house is on its 2nd owner and they pulled the weeds as it recently looked clear of any growth. But it does rut but certainly far far less than simply pouring gravel over dirt.
Rubbish dump owner 1: "We gotta find a way to get rid of all this platic waste, and it would be nice if people would pay us for the privilege" Rubbish dump owner 2: "I got you brother"
My stepdad works construction and this was practically his response 😂 "everyone's got their own thing, not my house not my problem till they ask for help"
Won’t they also because he’s putting in a barrier to stop water that makes it thru the compacted drive being as it’s not completely solid not be able to be absorbed by the ground to cause the lower level to break up and eventually cause the upper level to break up causing cracks all over it ?
A weed barrier is one thing, but it's the dirt and leaf litter on top which causes weed problems eventually. Dirt is trapped in the gravel and stuff just grows. Every time - without fail
Yea We have a long gravel driveway and it’s so dusty when I mow And when I clean a car it gets dirty again when I move it back to where it was because of the dust :/
They use the same concept in Dominican Republic. But using regular bricks with holes and place them in certain yards. Grass will grow and you can park your cars for events and not get muddy. Just keep signs for NO HIGH HEELS
lol! I was thinking something similar.. Gotta show it after it rains w/1-3” precipitation. It’s really thin so after a few months of driving (parking) on it with anything heavier than 1/2 ton truck that be plastic will be crushed .. gravity , never forget about gravity! I just think that kinda important.
@@IdealConsciencehey man, look at how he used a homemade leveler out of just immaculate untouched wood bought fresh for this, and immaculate clean rope bought fresh for this, he's such a based guy just working hard!!!!
@@ileftarosebud Yeah, but in the comments you get a spectrum of nuance, from people who vibe, to people who don't, and everywhere in between ar people sharing their opinions just like fi you talked to people irl about the same thing
I must caution anyone thinking about trying this. It may prevent erosion, but if the top layer wears down and the plastic torn up, it becomes very difficult to deal with.
I couldn’t think of something to compare it to, but it does look institutionalized and not attractive to the curb appeal! I would not want to buy that home if it were up for sale and had that blacked out driveway!
My husband though so too. Until winter came and he saw exactly what I meant by "it's not gonna lie where you put it". The cars dug through the gravel and into the clay below, and we had several situation where he used over an hour to get the car loose, and had to call people to come and help him push it. Then we put down a system like this. Never had issues like previously mentioned again.
@@minacapella8319”maintenance level of concrete” what? Brother a concrete driveway will last 25-30 years. Like you really don’t even gotta do anything.
I wonder if this grid would help cement from cracking, it might even look nice peaking through to give the cement pad a unique cobblestone/paver brick style pattern.
Right? My friend was looking for "green" ideas at work cuz they asked him to. He found a spray that claimed to lower greenhouses gases. All you do is spray it on your building evenly. Two coats work even better, and once it dries, its invisible! Its almost as if you did do a damn thing! Well, wastimg time and money and creating more plastix garbage is a thing...
Hmm idk. I think the product itself is useful and has uses. It’s good at levelling and also making sure the gravel doesn’t move too much over time as it’s held in place by the lattice rather than just kinda pounded together by the compacter. I’ve personally used it (only in a very small project to level ground for a shed) and it’s pretty good, easy to use, and also takes up a lot of space that would otherwise be gravel (which whilst cheap ish, is a pain in the ass to move around so having to use less of it is nice
Oh. That makes sense. The whole time i was like "yeah, sure is green to introduce more plastic to erode into yhe environment with all the friction from yhe rocks and weathering from water passing through it"
It is an ad, but it doesn't mean it is a useless product. It's like seeing an advertisement for prescription glasses and calling it a scam because you have good vision. L take, especially when this product gets plastic out of landfills, and actually adds stability and support to a gravel driveway.
Check out mechanical concrete if you’re thinking of doing something like this. Same idea, but they uses old tires from the junkyard and secure then together.
@@NTFZ That's around what it is for a set of them. You get around 30-50 sq ft per set in coverage. A "normal" sized driveway would probably cost +/- $500 in this stuff.
@@dschaedler Lol... Yes it's all about "nature". Concrete has many advantages. If you're that "pro nature" maybe you should live in the woods and live 100% sustainably like the idiotic climate protesters blocking roads.
Depending on where you live some counties have a strict concrete/asphalt to land plot ratio and won’t allow for that much material and you are forced to have gravel
you dont need the grid mould. All you need to do is excavate to make a neat area to hold the 4" deep gravel fill. Pour a concrete containment curb to limit gravel spread, and fill the excavated tray with #57 lime rock or granite gravel, and tamp as needed. A containment curb can be made with 2x12 PT ground contact wood.
I remember my dad learning the hard way about the vengeance of dandelions when he put weed barrier cloth down. They made a full invasion and tore up that cloth within less than 2 weeks. I saw less dedication to protect in plants vs zombies than I did in those dandelions.
@@user-vh8lv1lm4j Glad to have made you smile, to add to the comedy my dad ending up ripping out each flower and giving them names that were profanity.
@@76marji no weeds are growing out of 4 inches of crushed compacted rock. you might get a weed or 2 but its growing out of dirt/seed from the top, nothing is growing from the botttom.
@@eftheusempireOf course not, as first earth and seeds are blown onto the gravel, then the weed comes. But this is, how we use them, to stabilize green. Without the liners below and without clean gravel, just use the dirt laying around. We WANT that the nature takes back and is not turned to mud when sometimes a car comes by. Not for everyday use.
@@zheil9152 there is an app called return youtube dislike for chrome. the dislike is still there just removed from view. unless the video author (like this) goes out of their way to completely disable dislikes. hmm dunno why anyone would do that for something they are promoting.
Bumps are good… and it settles out. Its always permeable There’s a huge pipe under it, so it’s collecting water… problem is he puts tar paper and plastic in it… so you shouldn’t drink that water or farm with it without distilling and filtering I don’t get why you’d use this? It’d just break apart into nano particles
I done my 1,390 ft driveway with used car & truck tires with the side walls cut out of them and screwed them together and then used crushed concrete for base and the good stuff for the rest.
What makes you think this is an ad? I have zero affiliation with this produce. They did not pay me and they did not provide any free product. Thanks for watching though.
В СССР делали такую дорогу в тех местах где грунты были сильно обводнены а дорога нужна была, чтобы техника не утонула в болоте делали такую дорогу! Но в СССР эту дорогу делали из отходов производства а тут наоборот нужно производство для этой дороги! Бетон будет дешевле стоить и покрытие будет твердым!
"How is this different from me having a ton of gravel just being dumped and me spreading it over with a rake? " "Well, this way you pay me 4500 dollars"
@@PebloCostibar that's not really what happens dude you still get all that just with chunks of plastic you will be cleaning up forever. I've been doing commercial and residential landscaping for 15 years I've installed these before by request and was called back to remove every single one within 2 years because the plastic breaks within 6 months and you have plastic bits that stick out everywhere and that's ifthe plastic itself doesn't straight up work its way out and poke halfway out of the rock this stuff only makes sence on a steep hill that rock won't normally stay on...
@@Crackpidgeonextreme Ok this just popped into my head what would happen if instead of plastic it was metal would it last longer? What would the Pros and Cons be.
I don’t want to discourage anybody but being 6ft7, jacked, gifted between the legs, well groomed and having a well paid job is not enough today… Let that sink in
Glad to see at least one company figured out how to make recycling profitable. You're literally paying them for the opportunity to bury their trash in your yard. Absolutely genius
@jmckendry84 because with the cost of materials and labor to do this you could of just poured a concrete pad. So you are paying a company to put junk plastic and bury it in your property lol
@@frogking5573 You could also use concrete made from recycled plastic instead. South Africa has been using it for its asphalt roads, and apparently they last much longer than any other kind (works for concrete too). Only problem is, companies make less money because you don't have to replace your driveway as often, so thats a no go too.
This is supposed to be the least permanent, most affordable, and simple driveway type, and you found a way to make it the least valuable, most expensive option. Cool
@@bastik.3011honestly I think it's a great idea. Although anywhere I'm worried about pressure I'd probably pave it or something. That being said for a budget driveway or one out in the country or just not city this is solid and will keep that gravel where it needs to be a long time. Although so does just putting it in a 4inch deep hole or whatever.
@@bastik.3011I have a client that uses this system and it’s pretty cool for keeping the driveway flat but it does Need touch up often in the first few years as the rocks break apart and degrade.
@@TH-cam_is_complete-total_shit Its not a thing in the USA i lnow but here in Germany there are laws about how much of your property you are allowed to seal and these have the advantage of letting water through
It doesnt because after abt a month when its completely ripped up they replace it with concrete and they contemplate an incompitent labor lawsuit against the company that installed it 😂
We obviously have different meanings for the word 'sexy'. And I've been known to call a refrigerator 'sexy' cuz it has a lot of bells and whistles. This is just a gravel driveway, as someone else said, with extra steps.
It’s called Cellular Confinement and it’s been around for decades. It was never designed to be a permeable solution. It was designed for stabilization and erosion control. The plastic pieces should also be fastened to the ground with spikes before backfilling. When done properly, a system like this can support a 60,000 pound fire truck. And that’s on grass.
I have been looking at doing this with grass also . Since I'm in the Midwest, I'm generally hesitant about how things will be with snow removal. First time I saw it done right was at Newfields in Indianapolis
@@jamesrehak2016 I here ya brother,I'm from New England so we deal with the same shit, those plows tear all kinds of landscaping up,it's not like they can see were the street or parking lot ends
Great idea. Could have used it for my 1/2 mile winding, hilly driveway. Regardless of how well we compacted the gravel, traffic eventually displaced it leaving ruts on up/downhill grades. Plowing snow displaced it too regardless of care in selecting blade clearance.
En mi terreno quité yerbas, emparejé el suelo, le puse tres pulgadas de grava y duró mucho. Hay que arrancar los brotes en tiempo de lluvia, pero son muy pocos.
you put a weed barrier designed to prevent stuff from getting through, then you put a compacted a layer of rod, then you put some overpriced recycled garbage down, then you dumped even more rocks and compacted them again... making it even more impermeable than just gravel would be... but for an absurdly higher price.
Sounds cool, but will this work in area that typically freeze & thaw multiple times during the winter??? or is that plastic "mesh" going to break apart or float when ice forms repeatedly in the grid.
Is barely permeable: Weed barrier will hold water in puddles, rock was compacted before plastic mesh making it difficult for water to get through. Water will likely pool in the mesh of the plastic. Is bad for environment: 100% recycled plastic or not, you’re still putting 2 layers of plastic in the ground, both of which will likely become damaged. Plastic will be in your soil. It’s not long lasting: Concrete and asphalt, although they do have cons, are long lasting. Gravel often gets messy and new gravel is needed often to maintain a gravel driveway. Whether using typical gravel, or this type, regular maintenance is required for it to look good. Typically gravel though, does have the previous cons.
The weed barrier isn’t plastic though. It’s a woven fabric like material. Water will go right through with little to no resistance as long as you use the correct stone. The plastic grid is used to strengthen the system. It’s typically used as a “grass-pave” system. In my area we use it for emergency vehicle driveways through landscape areas with sod on top for retirement complexes and apartments/condos. Everything he used in the video is permeable except the stone.
To everyone that think this will flood this will not at most it will be a danger when doing the lawn and shoot rocks at the very most! You guys really need to stop being driveway cretics and realize this guy has been doing this type of work for a long time much longer than you have and I’m sure the customer is not going to pay a few grand for a new job that will just flood again
@yono367 not by coty regulations at least... you need roadbase with a specific hydration and compaction level to be even allowed to pave. That's how it is in Colorado
@@ceraunoashe9134 the regulations are for public roads. But yeah, you still need a finger aggregate before the binder and then the asphalt. But it was simply a humorous comment, meant to say that was a nice and compact base
My next door neighbor had a business doing dirt work and installing septic systems. He always swore by putting down a base layer of 1 and 2 size rock, packing it down and later covering it with light gravel. It really made a strong base. I trust his method over this any day of the week.
Your neighbor knows what he's doing. It's not rocket science and didn't need to be complicated or unnecessarily expensive, like I'm sure this shit show was.
Hate to say it but this isn’t permeable. When you have multiple layers of compacted rock, that’s eventually going to be filled with sand and other fine materials, it will come in permeable. It doesn’t have to be asphalt to be non-permeable. Think about the bottom of a river or even a puddle. It’s sitting on top of Dirt, which is compacted fine rocks yet water doesn’t go through
@@skyalert32 There should be no tamping, the plastic stuff is doing nothing here except wasting money, and the stuff he's doing with that crush'n'run is really defeating the purpose of it being "permeable." The most expensive and time consuming part is gonna be when he has to rip it all out, pay for the stone to be hauled away, have new proper permeable stone delivered, and have to do it all over (but with less steps and a better result).
90% drive way 10% house
just how lightning mc-queen intended
Car guys house for sure just needs a little shop
the wife wont understand...
Typical American house 👍 😂
How else are you going to fit all of the new models from every brand?
It's like a regular gravel driveway, but with extra steps
Ehhh gravel doesn’t hold shape really at all tho. You’ll get ditches eventually
No, much better. No pits forming from crevices. No water draining away lines of gravel into the road. Not weed sprouting.
@ThinkTooMuch69 not if you lazy taterheads would use this fancy space age device called a drag and maintain your shit🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ take your bs driveway elsewhere I'll save my money drink a beer and drive my wheeler around twice a year pulling a $20 driveway drag 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
did you miss permeable?
@@p6v665crushed rock isn’t permeable, washed rock is. Voiceover is inaccurate
This is just a gravel driveway with some plastic in it. It was already permeable just being gravel.
It doesn't get weeds and wont wash away nearly as bad
Actually, gravel driveways are considered impervious, not permeable.
Depends on the type of gravel whether or not it is considered permeable or not.
It's got 'recycled' in the name. The Grenola gang and the WEF crowd will love it and in my country, probably steal from the tax payer to subsidise it.
@@nickhunter8102The plastic grid is not why it doesn't get weeds.
I just cannot understand how anyone could think this is worth whatever it cost.
I had one installed, worth every penny.
Why not just get concrete @@erockbrox8484
@@erockbrox8484 can you explain the point to me? is it also installed on top of impermeable coating like in this video?
@Naa-ee7nq my guess would be it helps it last longer, keeps it all in place from washing away from weather and such.
@@destynova4512 I have had a regular drive outside my house for about twenty years. I have experienced precisely zero problems with it in that time. If I *had* problems with it, then I guess I'd have just installed a tarmac drive. Both options are cheap (or cheaper at least, though I'm just guessing from what I've seen how much that fancy gravel driveway costs), work perfectly well and are not very labor-intensive.
You combined the high cost and intense labour of a cement driveway with the mediocrity of a gravel driveway lmao
Ok, go stick in concrete... oh no, you've just spent $20k and now you have to rip it out because you don't understand permeability requirements... (also the person that made the driveway didn't understand them either or would have used washed rock).
There are places you just can't go sticking in as much surface as you would like, no matter what you think your god given rights are.
Cement driveway will cost way more 😂
@@petergraphix6740you need a license/permit to pour concrete 😂
@@petergraphix6740and permission from the county to do so anyone just can run around pouring mixes like no tomorrow
@@GX2reoh really now? Bc im willing to be you money right now that i can get a quote from 2 different companies that says otherwise on the cost of installing this bullshit over concrete
Compacted crushed stone isn’t permeable. My company installs permeable paver systems and I can tell you that system doesn’t work the way the voiceover claims. You have to use a washed stone base…not crushed. The weed barrier is permeable, but the stone isn’t.
Correct
Oh no...
If you take out the sand and silt fraction crushed rock is permable.
And here I thought the Barrier was the problem.
The fabric will be permeable to weeds in the future. Nothing can stop them 😅
This is actually a product originally used in agriculture, especially livestock and it works wonders. Idk about driveways though
Something very similar has been used for rural driveways for years in my country. Works well.
Putting more plastics into our grounds, just what we needed
They installed this system at a new building for my company. It was like driving through slush, threw up rocks that broke windows, and the plastic grid started to come up out of the rocks after only a few weeks. In less than a year it was completely ripped out and replaced with concrete.
EDIT: For everyone saying that we drove on it wrong, or went too fast, or there was too much traffic. The only way into the area was through a security gate that you needed a code for. We moved into the offices in August 2022, but the building was not yet open to the public. (As of this writing: January 2024, it still isn't.) For the majority of the time, the staff of 3 were the only ones in the building.
Within a month of the offices being opened, management was already talking about having the gravel replaced with concrete.
Jesus lmfao
Sounds like it would only be good in driveways(small and very low speed), as opposed to parking lots. I also wonder if the prep was incorrect in the case you described.
@@dearboy05 It wasn't a parking lot. It was a semi-circular driveway.
i would imagine rocks would fly but the thing is you should only be driving 10mph in a car park so im wondering......
@@mikemccausland6587 The issue with flying rock was due to them getting into the grass and them being thrown when the grass was cut. There was no way to be certain there were no rocks anywhere in the grass because they would be picked up and carried the car tires or in your shoes. (We parked on the grass, which just made it worse.) They ended up everywhere, including up inside the framework of the cars driving over it.
$500,000 later, we had a gravel driveway
no doubt.....imagine winter melt and them filling up , then night time hits temps go back down.....I got a rink
What a damn mess
There is a house with a permeable driveway about half a mile down the road from me. I guess it's about eight years now and there are ruts in it. The shiny gravel is still mostly there, but the gravel has spread out a bit in all directions especially towards the street. Theirs is permeable because it had washed aggregate where the fines were removed. Some weeds can grow on it as winds, tree sap, cottonwood, pollen, mold, etc over the years have deposited enough material to allow weeds to grow in it. The house is on its 2nd owner and they pulled the weeds as it recently looked clear of any growth. But it does rut but certainly far far less than simply pouring gravel over dirt.
@@animejanai4657 Interesting.
LMAO, really!
Rubbish dump owner 1: "We gotta find a way to get rid of all this platic waste, and it would be nice if people would pay us for the privilege"
Rubbish dump owner 2: "I got you brother"
This system is best used with soil to allow grass to grow through. Especially handy if planning permission don’t allow a permanent foundation
yeah at last a smart man....
I’m no expert….. wait a minute, yes I am. This is not the correct rock if you want it to be permeable. Low spots will definitely pool.
I put down a lot of 3/4 minus crusher run, it turns into an impermeable surface in a hurry with any decent compaction.
My stepdad works construction and this was practically his response 😂 "everyone's got their own thing, not my house not my problem till they ask for help"
Won’t they also because he’s putting in a barrier to stop water that makes it thru the compacted drive being as it’s not completely solid not be able to be absorbed by the ground to cause the lower level to break up and eventually cause the upper level to break up causing cracks all over it ?
Are you able to plow your driveway in the winter snowstorms
@@newbluerugby well with great care !
A weed barrier is one thing, but it's the dirt and leaf litter on top which causes weed problems eventually. Dirt is trapped in the gravel and stuff just grows. Every time - without fail
Yeah I've found 5/8" minus makes a wonderful growing medium!
I hate " weed barrier" " landscape fabric". Waste of time and money. Glad someone else knows.
Life, uh, finds a way.
But weed barrier, when it lasts, prevents weeds from rooting more than a couple inches deep, so they are easy to pull out.
Former landscaper here, weed barrier is the biggest scam in the world
ESPECIALLY for those who has to remove it
The best use for it is stabilisation of lawns you can drive over
At last a functioning brain!
No matter how strong those weed barriers are, those weeds always find a way through 😂
It depends on the product. Some are very weak and some are very strong. They wildly vary.
@@PANZERFAUST90 Cope
@@deepwashington499 lol?
I said their quality has a wide range. Did your bot talking tree malfunction?
@@PANZERFAUST90 Cope
@@deepwashington499 lmao okay, bot
Gravel driveways are nightmares. Lawnmowers become rock guns.
No lawns left to mow if everything is now a gravel driveway.
MY POOR BEAUTIFUL GLASS KITCHEN DOOR!! may it RIP
Yea
We have a long gravel driveway and it’s so dusty when I mow
And when I clean a car it gets dirty again when I move it back to where it was because of the dust :/
Also think of snow removal
@@urmommamudkips8343🤯 😖 😩 😳
i cannot imagine why anyone would WANT a *gravel driveway* in the first place! 😬😫
"Driveway" = "entire property"
“Next we tore down the house and replaced it with a Dutch gravel retention and sunning system.”
Presumptuous and pointless statement with nothing to prove it right or wrong.
Are you blind? Don't you see that tiny shack which has 1 room (multipurpose bedroom, kitchen, bathroom, living room all-in-one)?
Maybe it's a driveway for little planes
@@bigguccinelly300thus the “”, also, that’s a huge drive way no matter what.. can fit like 5 vehicles.
They use the same concept in Dominican Republic. But using regular bricks with holes and place them in certain yards. Grass will grow and you can park your cars for events and not get muddy. Just keep signs for NO HIGH HEELS
This shits a NIGHTMARE after a few years. The second the gravel errods and one of the plates pops up the entire system because falls apart
All the drawbacks of gravel, with all the cost and labor of concrete. Great Job!!
lol! I was thinking something similar..
Gotta show it after it rains w/1-3” precipitation.
It’s really thin so after a few months of driving (parking) on it with anything heavier than 1/2 ton truck that be plastic will be crushed .. gravity , never forget about gravity!
I just think that kinda important.
@@analogalien651nah, it won’t break. Even if it does crack in a few places, it’ll still do it’s job.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinyls “I won’t break” and “Even if it does crack” What? Either it does or doesn’t
@@sharicamonet9675 do you have a learning disability that affects your reading comprehension. Neither sentence contradicts the other.
@@Pluralofvinylisvinylsand, what is the job of that plastic grid?
I love how the internet makes people feel like they are reinventing the wheel.
It's just allowed monorail salesmen reach more people with less effort.
@@IdealConsciencehey man, look at how he used a homemade leveler out of just immaculate untouched wood bought fresh for this, and immaculate clean rope bought fresh for this, he's such a based guy just working hard!!!!
in the same vein, everyone in the comments is always an expert
@@ileftarosebud Yeah, but in the comments you get a spectrum of nuance, from people who vibe, to people who don't, and everywhere in between ar people sharing their opinions just like fi you talked to people irl about the same thing
@@IdealConscience to be fair, the monorail did put those towns in the map!
I like that you hide plastic waste and 10" nails under the gravel. Real breakthrough
I must caution anyone thinking about trying this. It may prevent erosion, but if the top layer wears down and the plastic torn up, it becomes very difficult to deal with.
Bro really said make his driveway look like a prison yard
😂 cannot relate
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I couldn’t think of something to compare it to, but it does look institutionalized and not attractive to the curb appeal! I would not want to buy that home if it were up for sale and had that blacked out driveway!
@@MariaEOD 100% agreed, where's the greenery gone? It looks terrible for a home
That looks like a more expensive way to lay down gravel
It is
My husband though so too. Until winter came and he saw exactly what I meant by "it's not gonna lie where you put it". The cars dug through the gravel and into the clay below, and we had several situation where he used over an hour to get the car loose, and had to call people to come and help him push it. Then we put down a system like this. Never had issues like previously mentioned again.
It's more expensive at base cost but holds so much better. And doesn't require the maintenance level of concrete.
@@minacapella8319”maintenance level of concrete” what? Brother a concrete driveway will last 25-30 years. Like you really don’t even gotta do anything.
It needs to be compacted.
Guest: Where do we sleep?
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Christ wouldn’t concrete have been cheaper at that point??? 😳
They defeated the point of a gravel driveway..........cost
Some people like a quality product and will pay for it 🤷
@@teaguejelinek4038 ... And some people like an expensive product regardless of quality.
@@teaguejelinek4038 That's the other problem, a lot of people here on the comments are saying that this is worse than just gravel
My thoughts, been in constr 35 yrs. Looks expensive to begin with. cheaper and more efficient routes available
Granulated worx pretty good, packs like concrete
"Gravel driveways are nightmares"
" MINE will be different! "
Nightmares? Lol
Is that the NDS grass cell? Thats cool. As a GC ive installed acres of them.
I wonder if this grid would help cement from cracking, it might even look nice peaking through to give the cement pad a unique cobblestone/paver brick style pattern.
Hey yall. This is product placement. The idea is stupid and unnecessary because it's an ad. Hope this helps clarify.
Right? My friend was looking for "green" ideas at work cuz they asked him to.
He found a spray that claimed to lower greenhouses gases.
All you do is spray it on your building evenly. Two coats work even better, and once it dries, its invisible!
Its almost as if you did do a damn thing!
Well, wastimg time and money and creating more plastix garbage is a thing...
damn bro thanks, honestly didn't even think of that. I just thought it seemed strange lol
Hmm idk. I think the product itself is useful and has uses. It’s good at levelling and also making sure the gravel doesn’t move too much over time as it’s held in place by the lattice rather than just kinda pounded together by the compacter. I’ve personally used it (only in a very small project to level ground for a shed) and it’s pretty good, easy to use, and also takes up a lot of space that would otherwise be gravel (which whilst cheap ish, is a pain in the ass to move around so having to use less of it is nice
Oh. That makes sense. The whole time i was like "yeah, sure is green to introduce more plastic to erode into yhe environment with all the friction from yhe rocks and weathering from water passing through it"
It is an ad, but it doesn't mean it is a useless product. It's like seeing an advertisement for prescription glasses and calling it a scam because you have good vision. L take, especially when this product gets plastic out of landfills, and actually adds stability and support to a gravel driveway.
"Instead of bringing this plastic to the landfill, we put it in the ground"
And we wonder why we have microplstics in the drinking water and our testosterone goes down
Plastic layer beneath and plastic grid is disgusting
@@andreasstuermer4946iono bout you but Im on my fifth chunk of irradiated plastic and Im feeling manly
Blame the manufacturer not the consumer
The bigger the Carbon FootPrint the better!💯👍
Check out mechanical concrete if you’re thinking of doing something like this. Same idea, but they uses old tires from the junkyard and secure then together.
That’s not just a driveway that’s a parking lot
Nobody in their right mind would go to this much trouble... for a gravel driveway.
then you could had have it "Gepflastert" as we say in Germany :DD
Heck I would! That's if it were cheap! An ol wagon trail has less pot holes in it than my driveway! Perfect for going mudding on 🙄🤦🏼♀️😤
@@arosefortes6507it’s 155$ a piece of the plastic thing I saw some other guy in the comments say
@@NTFZ That's around what it is for a set of them. You get around 30-50 sq ft per set in coverage.
A "normal" sized driveway would probably cost +/- $500 in this stuff.
@@Lusterredux then wtf was the other guy saying???
I saw this and was like "how are we supposed to snowblow that?" before remembering some people live in snow-free locations
That was my first thought exactly. A plow would destroy that in one pass.
Plow?! It’s a driveway not farmland.
@@sethlarson9433Snow plow
@@sethlarson9433 a snow plow, think bulldozer blade.
@@sethlarson9433Snow plows exist-
But even a snowblower would destroy this easily lol
what's not emphasized is how strong and nearly rut proof the driveway is. Having done this myself, I have seen firsthand just how strong it is.
This is a good idea because overtime gravel driveways gets divets and uneven areas. This looks like it will prevent it
For the labor cost, get a complete concrete driveway.
Aaah yess, the good old 'fuck nature it doesn't need the water anyways' approach
That would then look even worse than the stone desert in the vid...
@@dschaedler Lol... Yes it's all about "nature". Concrete has many advantages. If you're that "pro nature" maybe you should live in the woods and live 100% sustainably like the idiotic climate protesters blocking roads.
To me concrete seems like one of them worst materials for your driveway
@PilotAwe idk quicksand driveway sounds alot worse
$155 for one square tile? No thanks. I’d rather spend the money on a stronger concrete or asphalt driveway.
Literally 10 cents of plastic molded and upcharged to $155 lol
Depending on where you live some counties have a strict concrete/asphalt to land plot ratio and won’t allow for that much material and you are forced to have gravel
@@justinaguallo436a driveway that size with these molded plastic tiles, when all is said and done, is about 200k. I’ll deal with plain gravel.
@@southernparadise9896 yeah that’s fine, my reply was for concrete/asphalt!
Ye just get me a good ol paved driveway in that case. Cheaper and it looks nicer as well
you dont need the grid mould. All you need to do is excavate to make a neat area to hold the 4" deep gravel fill. Pour a concrete containment curb to limit gravel spread, and fill the excavated tray with #57 lime rock or granite gravel, and tamp as needed. A containment curb can be made with 2x12 PT ground contact wood.
You must have had that crawl space I saw the other day that looked like a level five clean room in a microprocessor manufacturing facility lol
"Weed barrier"
Dandelions: "And I took that personally"
I remember my dad learning the hard way about the vengeance of dandelions when he put weed barrier cloth down. They made a full invasion and tore up that cloth within less than 2 weeks.
I saw less dedication to protect in plants vs zombies than I did in those dandelions.
That made me laugh way harder😂 than it should have. Thank you, I genuinely needed that. Now I'm smiling!!
@@rustyhowe3907Thank you for the mental picture. 😅😂
@@user-vh8lv1lm4j Glad to have made you smile, to add to the comedy my dad ending up ripping out each flower and giving them names that were profanity.
Kek
That weed barrier aint gonna stop the dealers.
😳 it never does, does it?? 🧐
@@76marji no weeds are growing out of 4 inches of crushed compacted rock. you might get a weed or 2 but its growing out of dirt/seed from the top, nothing is growing from the botttom.
@@darylmixan8170
You totally missed the joke 🤣
Weed dealers!! As in ganja, Mary Jane, stuff that some people can't go a day without.
@@darylmixan8170 Hasta yo que no hablo Inglés entendí el chiste.
@@tk1500😂😂😂😂
If you’re wondering what that thing is called, it’s called textile or geo grid textile
For a flat drive it works both a driveway with water washing down an angled driveway mine washed out and didn't help at all.
Buddy, you completely sealed your front yard.
No he didnt. Those cloth weed barriers do literally nothing to stop weeds
@@eftheusempire it stops them but over time weeds will grow on top if a seed settles
@@Jim26D Yup. Weeds are good at that.
Nature always wins
@@eftheusempireOf course not, as first earth and seeds are blown onto the gravel, then the weed comes. But this is, how we use them, to stabilize green. Without the liners below and without clean gravel, just use the dirt laying around. We WANT that the nature takes back and is not turned to mud when sometimes a car comes by. Not for everyday use.
Don't trust everything you see online. Especially, shorts & reels.
Amazing how they removed this dislike button and then went on to introduce the one feature that would spread misinformation the fastest.
This videos got 36K dislikes
@@JustMeDark37k now
@@Kenzinru50k now
@@zheil9152 there is an app called return youtube dislike for chrome. the dislike is still there just removed from view. unless the video author (like this) goes out of their way to completely disable dislikes. hmm dunno why anyone would do that for something they are promoting.
What’s bad about gravel or asphalt crumbs is that they then become overgrown with small grass and there is no dirt.
Weed barrier was a total waste of money
Anyone who's ever seen one of these types of systems after a few years knows they don't last or work well.
I have similar driveway, Its full of bumps
Bumps are good… and it settles out.
Its always permeable
There’s a huge pipe under it, so it’s collecting water… problem is he puts tar paper and plastic in it… so you shouldn’t drink that water or farm with it without distilling and filtering
I don’t get why you’d use this? It’d just break apart into nano particles
exactly.
I'd imagine they would slide around over time, especially in wet tropical climates.
Oh not to mention adding micro plastics to the surrounding environment
Seems like an incredible way to over charge and under deliver.
I done my 1,390 ft driveway with used car & truck tires with the side walls cut out of them and screwed them together and then used crushed concrete for base and the good stuff for the rest.
Isn't it against FTC rules in the US to post an ad without disclosing it in the title? Actually NVM I'll answer... YES!
What makes you think this is an ad? I have zero affiliation with this produce. They did not pay me and they did not provide any free product. Thanks for watching though.
You earn commissions through the link tho.
Completely changed it from a gravel driveway to a smooth gravel driveway
That's plate compacted to you good sir 😂
😊 funny! 😂
@@beenzndbalogna92
😹 & *funnier!* 🤣
Funniest!!😅😅
According to their website, one 24"x16" plastic mold is $100!!!! I think I'll pass!!
The funny things is they can plastic injection mold it for like 2 dollars a piece.
And plastic degrades but doesn’t biodegrade. Just putting more microplastics into the environment
@@bettinae1603it's recycled material. The plastic already exists and is in the environment already lol
В СССР делали такую дорогу в тех местах где грунты были сильно обводнены а дорога нужна была, чтобы техника не утонула в болоте делали такую дорогу! Но в СССР эту дорогу делали из отходов производства а тут наоборот нужно производство для этой дороги! Бетон будет дешевле стоить и покрытие будет твердым!
Good until the 'recycled' plastic rots.
Nah....
My family transformed our driveway with one truck of gravel and a bunch of kids with rakes. Two hours and $150 lasted a few years.
How long is "a few years" though
@@Johanyohann For 150 bucks? 1 year is long enough lol.
And a couple of 🍕 s and 🥤!
Same. Except I'm one of the kids, and the only one who still benefits from the driveway year round.
Concrete is a huge contributor to flooding. We need better options but not this one.
"How is this different from me having a ton of gravel just being dumped and me spreading it over with a rake? "
"Well, this way you pay me 4500 dollars"
No pits forming from crevices. No water draining away lines of gravel into the road. Not weed sprouting.
@@PebloCostibar that's not really what happens dude you still get all that just with chunks of plastic you will be cleaning up forever. I've been doing commercial and residential landscaping for 15 years I've installed these before by request and was called back to remove every single one within 2 years because the plastic breaks within 6 months and you have plastic bits that stick out everywhere and that's ifthe plastic itself doesn't straight up work its way out and poke halfway out of the rock this stuff only makes sence on a steep hill that rock won't normally stay on...
@@Crackpidgeonextreme Ok this just popped into my head what would happen if instead of plastic it was metal would it last longer? What would the Pros and Cons be.
@@PebloCostibar(X)
@@cyrushansen5378no pros, just the cons of metal shards coming up to puncture tires, lol
I don’t want to discourage anybody but being 6ft7, jacked, gifted between the legs, well groomed and having a well paid job is not enough today… Let that sink in
......what?
В России повторный слой засыпают грунтовым слоем с семенами газонной травы, что кстати тоже очень долговечно.
"We have one beautiful, sexy beast of a driveway"
Son that shit looks absolutely fucking horrible lmao
You have to epoxy over top.
It doesnt look any different than a dirt road anywhere..
@@stewpendousgrowth4 Then how is it permeable? What's the point of this whole video? I'm legit confused.
@@santanalzshe made a joke about videos that claim they make something look nice, but making it look horrible, often involving epoxy
@@stewpendousgrowth4 no.
Glad to see at least one company figured out how to make recycling profitable. You're literally paying them for the opportunity to bury their trash in your yard. Absolutely genius
I am crying at this comment hahahahahahahaha!
😅
What a dumb comment - anything that has been recycled was previously trash. What's wrong with that?
@jmckendry84 because with the cost of materials and labor to do this you could of just poured a concrete pad.
So you are paying a company to put junk plastic and bury it in your property lol
@@frogking5573 You could also use concrete made from recycled plastic instead. South Africa has been using it for its asphalt roads, and apparently they last much longer than any other kind (works for concrete too). Only problem is, companies make less money because you don't have to replace your driveway as often, so thats a no go too.
Bro really got to work on the fast and furious house
This is supposed to be the least permanent, most affordable, and simple driveway type, and you found a way to make it the least valuable, most expensive option. Cool
"Sir there is a bit of house on my driveway" 💀
Wooow
Mate I just don’t get it. Can you make a video explaining why this is better than traditional alternatives?
Basically this way the sheering force of tires wont push away the material and create holes and dips which then can fill with water etc.
@@bastik.3011honestly I think it's a great idea. Although anywhere I'm worried about pressure I'd probably pave it or something. That being said for a budget driveway or one out in the country or just not city this is solid and will keep that gravel where it needs to be a long time. Although so does just putting it in a 4inch deep hole or whatever.
@@bastik.3011I have a client that uses this system and it’s pretty cool for keeping the driveway flat but it does Need touch up often in the first few years as the rocks break apart and degrade.
@@TH-cam_is_complete-total_shit Its not a thing in the USA i lnow but here in Germany there are laws about how much of your property you are allowed to seal and these have the advantage of letting water through
I don't have a clue... but plastic will ruin before concrete and rebar will...
Id like to see a 1 year 2 year and 5 year update with this and what maintenance has been done
So 40' of these for $155? Damn!
The most important thing was left out; price?
more than concrete lol
but its recycled plastic...i feel like that makes it cost more...concrete would have been cheaper.
I'm sure that was no accident.
because its so expensive he left it out on purpose haha
Click on link. $155. Per panel 😮
I'd love to see how this looks 2 years later.
It'll probably be all concrete within two years.
covered in asphalt
It doesnt because after abt a month when its completely ripped up they replace it with concrete and they contemplate an incompitent labor lawsuit against the company that installed it 😂
Covered in weeds
It doesn't last 1
We obviously have different meanings for the word 'sexy'. And I've been known to call a refrigerator 'sexy' cuz it has a lot of bells and whistles. This is just a gravel driveway, as someone else said, with extra steps.
Our school has those grids on the sidewalk gravel but they’re all popping out and it looks so bad 😭
Buddy just getting absolutely destroyed in the comments and I'm here for every minute of it
Hahaha...brilliant. Laugh bonus-multiplier.
🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
❤ but does it save u in some way? Money or asphalt or......❓
@@laurieamaral5844 it will make you bankrupt lmao
Same omg
It’s called Cellular Confinement and it’s been around for decades. It was never designed to be a permeable solution. It was designed for stabilization and erosion control. The plastic pieces should also be fastened to the ground with spikes before backfilling. When done properly, a system like this can support a 60,000 pound fire truck. And that’s on grass.
The company I worked for had me putting it down were all the grass was going
I have been looking at doing this with grass also . Since I'm in the Midwest, I'm generally hesitant about how things will be with snow removal. First time I saw it done right was at Newfields in Indianapolis
@@jamesrehak2016 I here ya brother,I'm from New England so we deal with the same shit, those plows tear all kinds of landscaping up,it's not like they can see were the street or parking lot ends
When you think about it, shouldn't the grass itself be able to support a 60k lb truck?
@@redbelle648 maybe somewhere in a permanent drought, that doesn't account for saturated soil from rain or snow at all
Можно и так сделать. Но эти модули с перегородками нужны лишь на склонах на мой взгляд
Great idea. Could have used it for my 1/2 mile winding, hilly driveway. Regardless of how well we compacted the gravel, traffic eventually displaced it leaving ruts on up/downhill grades. Plowing snow displaced it too regardless of care in selecting blade clearance.
just installing fresh gravel would've also completely transformed this driveway
Or a box blade with the scarifiers down (for free)
En mi terreno quité yerbas, emparejé el suelo, le puse tres pulgadas de grava y duró mucho. Hay que arrancar los brotes en tiempo de lluvia, pero son muy pocos.
@@Ricardo-qe2qx idk what that says gang
@@serbianspaceforce6873Do you not have a translate button? I'm being serious are there some devices or OS that don't support the translate system?
@@TroublezAhead00i didn't on my pc but now on my phone i do 🤷
Microplastics for centuries
How is this the only comment i seen abt this
Thats what I was going to say
Millenia.
Macro plastics for millennia.
Until the day of judgment
Gravel driveways are about as messy as rocks in landscape beds. Once its installed nobody ever maintains them
you put a weed barrier designed to prevent stuff from getting through, then you put a compacted a layer of rod, then you put some overpriced recycled garbage down, then you dumped even more rocks and compacted them again... making it even more impermeable than just gravel would be... but for an absurdly higher price.
Plot twist, it costs more than asphalt
Even more costly than concrete!
No doubt.
I was going to say... All that work could have put 2 inches of 9.5
Asphalt is way more expensive
@@GX2reno... its not, it also takes half the labor to install over this bullshit
Ooos 5/8 minus is no longer permeable. When compacted it has only 3% permeability. Next time use 5/8 washed to allow water to pass through
I'm living for these comments calling out OPs messup 😭
Literally came here to ask why not washed.
ohh yah guy messed up 😂
If it’s granular, it’s permeable. The permeability (cm/sec) depends on gradation
@@gordonlekfors2708Also the plastic will be worn down by stone movements over time and will spread micro plastic into the environment......
Sounds cool, but will this work in area that typically freeze & thaw multiple times during the winter??? or is that plastic "mesh" going to break apart or float when ice forms repeatedly in the grid.
Placing none permeable plastic right under it completely defeats the purpose of it
Is barely permeable: Weed barrier will hold water in puddles, rock was compacted before plastic mesh making it difficult for water to get through. Water will likely pool in the mesh of the plastic.
Is bad for environment: 100% recycled plastic or not, you’re still putting 2 layers of plastic in the ground, both of which will likely become damaged. Plastic will be in your soil.
It’s not long lasting: Concrete and asphalt, although they do have cons, are long lasting. Gravel often gets messy and new gravel is needed often to maintain a gravel driveway. Whether using typical gravel, or this type, regular maintenance is required for it to look good. Typically gravel though, does have the previous cons.
Yea but this is half the cost of a normal driveway
@@Dinkwaddat first
Not to mention the driveway slopes down to the house and garage. The water will most likely flood the garage and possibly the house.
The weed barrier isn’t plastic though. It’s a woven fabric like material. Water will go right through with little to no resistance as long as you use the correct stone. The plastic grid is used to strengthen the system. It’s typically used as a “grass-pave” system. In my area we use it for emergency vehicle driveways through landscape areas with sod on top for retirement complexes and apartments/condos. Everything he used in the video is permeable except the stone.
To everyone that think this will flood this will not at most it will be a danger when doing the lawn and shoot rocks at the very most! You guys really need to stop being driveway cretics and realize this guy has been doing this type of work for a long time much longer than you have and I’m sure the customer is not going to pay a few grand for a new job that will just flood again
that smooth gravel base is like screaming "pour asphalt over me!"
Oh god, please don't, lol. We have specific materials that go under asphalt and that rock is way too big.
@@ceraunoashe9134 you don't need anything except compact gravel under asphalt
@yono367 not by coty regulations at least... you need roadbase with a specific hydration and compaction level to be even allowed to pave. That's how it is in Colorado
@@ceraunoashe9134 the regulations are for public roads. But yeah, you still need a finger aggregate before the binder and then the asphalt. But it was simply a humorous comment, meant to say that was a nice and compact base
@@ceraunoashe9134 yeah for road work/city work maybe they make you do that lol but not private sector
“landscaping stakes” aka a 4 inch nail
you can also dig 2 meters deep, fill with concrete, put concrete blocks on top and it will work, both cheaper and better for larger surfaces
My next door neighbor had a business doing dirt work and installing septic systems. He always swore by putting down a base layer of 1 and 2 size rock, packing it down and later covering it with light gravel. It really made a strong base. I trust his method over this any day of the week.
Also easier to fix that this damn thing. Just one wrong move on snow blow height adjustment and this thing is in peaces and soon to go into landfill.
Great advice. Need to repair my gravel parking. Will use the rock and gravel method. Seems legit.
Your neighbor knows what he's doing. It's not rocket science and didn't need to be complicated or unnecessarily expensive, like I'm sure this shit show was.
man, i'd never do this because the wind would fuck everything up lol especially like 60mph winds
Well that may last well for 5-10 years but this plastic he uses is the difference needed to extend the lifetime to 25+ years
That looks like the most depressing piece of engineering I've ever seen
americans when something isn’t extremely wasteful and bad for the environment: 🤬🤬
@@coastingalongyeah because putting brittle plastic in the ground for water to wash out is great for the environment
@@coastingalonglets bury plastic under road instead of using cement that is literally just rocks and sand
@@isaacmarcucci3777 you’re proving my point……
@@FedkaSlovanich damn you’re ultra stupid huh?
Have built 3 RV parks using something similar. Pads are solid yet pourous and not losing acreage to retention ponds.
Better to use a weedbarrier that allows water to go through, with the weed barrier you used you eliminated the only upside of a gravel driveway
Hate to say it but this isn’t permeable. When you have multiple layers of compacted rock, that’s eventually going to be filled with sand and other fine materials, it will come in permeable.
It doesn’t have to be asphalt to be non-permeable.
Think about the bottom of a river or even a puddle. It’s sitting on top of Dirt, which is compacted fine rocks yet water doesn’t go through
This just seems like a very complex and expensive process to something that should be relatively cheap and fast.
Looks pretty simple and cheap to me
@@skyalert32 There should be no tamping, the plastic stuff is doing nothing here except wasting money, and the stuff he's doing with that crush'n'run is really defeating the purpose of it being "permeable."
The most expensive and time consuming part is gonna be when he has to rip it all out, pay for the stone to be hauled away, have new proper permeable stone delivered, and have to do it all over (but with less steps and a better result).
@@skyalert32 each one of those plastic thingies is like 150 bucks
Should use lime sand and calcium mixed on top of gravel then compact it. It'll be like cement.
Theres a cobblestone & soil system that works in the same way. Zero plastic. Can also use rotten rock (if available) instead of cobbles.