How to use a crow's foot wrench adapter. Demo done on Yamaha R6 chain adjuster nut.
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- Here’s a quick video on “how to use a crow’s foot adapter” to properly torque a nut. In our example, we are torquing the chain adjuster locknut found on a Yamaha R6. I’m teaching these students not to adhere to “good enough” and to make it a practice of following the service manual procedures.
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im new to fixing stuff today a mechanic told me that its common for amateurs to care too much about using a torque wrench and that there is only a few times they are useful. Videos like this makes me feel otherwise. I subscribed thanks!
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Thank you for showing that. I am using a crowsfoot for the very first time and got puzzled because the angle kept changing as I ratcheted the tool. I kept resetting the angle, but did not have confidence that I was using the adapter correctly. Now I see how to do it properly. Thanks! 👍
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I stumbled on this video by searching "Flare Nut Crowfoot Wrench Set" and while watching this video, I found you showed another way to use the crowsfoot as well as answering a question I had months ago about how to use a torque wrench adapter. Thanks for the video. Great instruction, and very professional.
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Same here! I have little clearance space for a 19mm bolt for my lower control arm. My torque wrench doesn't have enough space. Will try n see if I can do it with a crowfoot. It needs to be torqued at 101 ft pound
I've never had a set of crow's foots in my kit so didn't know how they'd be handy. They're an extremely awkward looking tool. Thanks.
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Great video! Also, notice when he came to the pre-set tourque as the wrench clicked he didn’t keep clicking the wrench. You only let the wrench “breakaway” or click ONE time. Many people seem to think you need to keep clicking away.
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Thank you -- I've been using torque wrenches for years but never used a crow's foot wrench adapter before and I need to do it for a part I'm working on. This was very helpful, especially the reminder to keep the adapter at a 90 degree angle to the handle.
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Thank you very much for the explaination on the 90° correction and the correction alignment behind getting the correct and accurate torque spec
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90° doesn't make sense, if it's in line with the foot making it longer, wld be like putting a very small cheater bar on a wrench giveing you more leverage and taking less strength to get to 90 lbs. It's still 90ft lbs, you just only had to use let's say 60 lbs of force.
That's like saying using a 4' torque wrench set at 90 ft lbs isn't going to give you the same ft lbs as a 3' torque wrench set at 90 ft lbs.
@@Jdww89 Exaclty the only thing you shouldn't do is have something that changes the angle like a universal/wobble socket, cheap torque wrenches or the wrong hand placement not allowing the torque wrench to function correctly. Torque sticks doesn't matter where it's placed the extensions can only twist so much giving it the correct torque same with a cheater if need be, as long as your hand is placed in the correct spot your torque wrench should tighten to 90ft/lbs no matter if it only takes you 20lbs of downforce to do so. Try it with a 3/8" drive torque wrench at any position with the crows foot and then try it with a 1/2" drive torque wrench and just a socket it should be still set at 90ft/lbs not matter the difference in torque wrench length......if your torque wrenches are within spec. 90ft/lbs is 90ft/lbs on the fastener even if it only take the operator 10ft/lbs to get it there. Now the type of torque wrench can play a difference but personally I like the split beam precision instruments, they have always been good to me I will say stay away from Harbor Freight yes they will replace it but they are worth the gas driving there an back to do so everytime you use and break one. But that's just my two pennies on the topic......
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Excellent point. I've been surprised now many people don't understand the rationale behind why a torque wrench gives unreliable data when used with a crow foot wrench. As you say, if you keep the angle 90 deg, the sine of that angle approaches zero, dropping the added length to a negligible figure. The reason those guys can make that mistake over an entire career is because of the high tolerance for variance in applied torque.
The offset still exists whether you have the wrench at 90°, 45°, 18°, 37°, etc. it doesn’t matter at all. Any offset less than an inch is already negligible. Torque wrenches are not precise enough for a small offset to be of any significance. Insisting on this 90° myth is like saying that the torque changes when you hold the torque wrench high or low on the handle. Regardless of the crows foot rotation, you are still applying torque at an offset distance. Rotating the thing around a central pivot does not magically change the math.
@@athhud Although I agree with you that the result may be negligible, the math is clear, as I stated above. The right angle distance from the hand to the central pivot does indeed change, depending on the angle between the torque wrench handle and the crow's foot. Plotted on a graph, you get a sinusoidal plot of torque vs angle, with almost no difference at 90 deg. I also agree with your third point, that position of the hand makes no difference, because of the way torque wrenches measure force. The spring inside the head of the torque wrench is calibrated with the assumption that the head of the bolt is directly underneath, concentric with the axis. If not, there is a longer or shorter lever arm length and torque not accounted for. You can estimate that by multiplying measured instrument torque by the ratio of new right angle lever length over old, and you can crudely measure new lever length with a carpenter's square. At 90 deg the ratio declines to ~1 and it is maximum at 0 deg where new lever length is greatest, minimum at 180 deg where the length of the crow's foot shortens lever length. It is a small effect (often negligible) with a crow's foot, but unequivocal. It is easier to understand if you consider an extreme example. I go through a practical extreme example in a video I did of adjusting transmission bands using a torque wrench extension.
Yes when you start getting into higher torque situations and/or the distance from the anvil starts increasing significantly, the position on the axis will begin to matter. In this particular situation with the short inch pound wrench, low torque, and minimal offset it is just silly to fiddle around with the thing like you are torquing fine China to the space shuttle... The wrench won’t even adjust finely enough to compensate for the difference. Never mind the manufacturer’s specified range of accuracy.
I work for an OEM. In this situation we would use an open end "click wrench" set to the specific torque.
Is this a different sized wrench for each size head, i.e you would need a 10, 11, 12, 14, 16 mm click wrench?
@@ifell3 Yes each torque head is a different size, you can pop the head off the torque wrench. Tohnichi specializes in these types of torque wrenches
www.tohnichi.com/products/interchangeable-heads.htm
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Thanks for this tip, I didn't think about this 90 degree angle requirement.
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Also can I use this crowfoot for a bolt that requires 101 ft punds of torque?!
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I found a new use for my 3/8 torque wrench!
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Great Tip! Thank you so much for taking the time.
I've seen them sold for years, seemed very expensive, did not know what they were for, or how to use them. Thanks!
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Or you can use a pass through torque wrench. No need for crowsfoot and a 90 degree requirement.
I've never seen one...interested...
Thanks for the input but give credit where its due instead of just degradation, perhaps till? Its damn good instruction, no doubt. Well done sir
I’m here to learn how the crow’s foot is used.
@@codyglasco188 He made a useful suggestion and he wasn't insulting about it. If you're doing this all day and don't know about those wrenches, then it might be a great time saver if you can pick up a better tool. As the comment from to How 3 Wrench indicates.
Of course if you can't get a pass thru design around the end of what you're working on. Like a line or pipe or there's just no room, then this is invaluable.
The video is a tutorial on how to use a crows foo. Hence the guy using a crows foot lol
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just ran into this problem with a john deere mower belt actually the timing belt for the two blades, couldn't figure out how to do it...basically the same situation on this mower
Shade tree mechanic here, cool tutorial 👍
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If anything like that comes up I usually give the inner faster an extra half turn or let off early depending on orientation of the outer fastener, then tighten the outer with a good OOOMPH. 3 out of 5 success rate.
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I am new to crowsfeet. Just discovered them today as July 15 2022. I now assume if one uses a ratchet handle one cannot retched it as with a socket as the crowsfoot swings around freely?.
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I'm waiting on one to come in the mail. I need it to do repairs on my Jaguar. I'm going to replace the thermostat housing tower. It has 4 bolts. One of those is slightly under the intake manifold. The crowfoot will get it easy peasy. After doing a fair amount of research on the best way to attack this bolt, I came to the decision of using a crowfoot wrench.
its to use in places where the traditional ratchet doesn't have direct access. and it also works great for situation where an open box wrench is needed.
@@asadb1990 correct me please, a nice flex ratcheting locking wrench would suffice too?
what if they build an extended cordless rachet with a built in torque meter function....Im in need of that kind of tool
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Simple every day torq wrench yet he is hold a snap on torq wrench it aint cheap
Still the same concept, newbie. Get after it or fuck off
I noticed that too Dakota.
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Will an open end. Wrench do the same ?????
Another tool to use with your torque wrench is a torque adapter. I own the both regular crows feet and flarenut crowsfeet but I've never used them as shown in this video. Here is a good set of torque adapters www.amazon.com/Tools-93222-Metric-Adapter-Category/dp/B00NABVES8
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Nice tool set. FYI. This is the exact same purpose as the crows foot. The "difference" is clearance issues where these would allow to go "under" something in the way. They also are better due to the full enclosure of the fastener. You need to "re-phrase" your thought as "another tool". There are times where minimal clearance is available and a crowd foot is the only way to go! Also the use of crows feet or torque adaptors are applied the same. You MUST be at 90 degrees to cancel out the length. Thanks for sharing this tool with our community!
You are correct and I made a edit. I will always use the tool that has the most contact with any fastener. Good videos here for sure.
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dope thank u
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You have an FZ1 adapter on there ?
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Me too. I have about 7 or 8 torque wrenches in my toolbox.
Hell you'd never get anything done working on heavy iron 🤣 I sure hope you got atleast one of the cordless 36V Hytorc BTM-3000s to make things a bit easier for the small stuff and when that doesn't tighten it up enough just grab the old 50XL Hytorc cause ~46,000 ft/lbs should be enough to hold some things together😁
Not seeing it close up and and knowing nothing about the motorcycle I watched it twice and couldn't figure out why a straightforward socket wasn't used.
EDIT: Now I see it. I couldn't see very well where the hex key actually was in the lighting.
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Oh sorry.I was not paying attention ..You were using a torque wrench..My Bad..
This video explains why the crow'sfoot has to be at 90 degrees. How To Use a Crowfoot Wrench with a Torque Wrench th-cam.com/video/WH95Qb-w1pc/w-d-xo.html
We have two that prove it as well with the tester. Maybe you could share these next time in addition. Thanks Joel
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Well in the mining world you tighten things by how many ugga duggas you did with your 1" drive 3000ft/lb impact an if that doesn't seem like enough then bust out the hytorc and really tightened some things up..... Eh what can we say we get pretty technical with D11 dozers and 789 Haul Trucks🤣🤣🤣
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That 90° nonsense is a crock. First of all your torque wrench isn’t precise enough for you to ever know the difference in the minimal offset of the crows foot. Second of all the offset exists regardless of the orientation of the crows foot. Turning it to 90° does not make the offset go away. If you actually did the math you would realize that the difference in torque is insignificant. The difference will not even begin to exceed the accuracy of a quality torque wrench until you get well over an inch of offset. Even then it is still negligible at best, especially in an application such as this where the goal is to simply get it tight enough without breaking anything.
You may want to read any manual that comes with a TQ wrench. All the manufactures train the same 90 degree offset cancels this out. We have more videos showing it on a testing machine. We welcome all comments in this community that are intended to help or give experience. Also know that these were students in training practicing skill sets in a lab. At this point in the training (and in many other videos as the student in training was the intended audience) we are not focusing on "negligible or does it matter, or good enough” as much as good habit forming and practical use. Consider this in your comments and please use your experience, comments and advise to better this community.
LPL: I'm going to hold tension and click on one and we're done. All in all this locknut is terrible for security as even the most amateur of picker could pick it, but if you are using it correctly it will keep your bike together.
Cute... But I couldn't see anything... Demenstraight from a bench....
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what is the point of that tool lol
Why not use a torque wrench? 😂
This is a torque wrench!!! Just using a crows foot on the end of it so he can get the Allen key to it
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This comment shows you may have not watched the video or need more help understanding. Please watch again so you can understand that an enclosed socket will not let you hold the setting of the chain adjuster (the bolt pushing against the axle block). As you tighten with a torque wrench (or wrench) the adjuster will rotate and move out of place.
The common practice is to hold the bolt with the allen and use a closed end wrench to secure the nut BUT then you are replying on "feel" that the fastener is torqued correctly.
If you look close the crows feet we are using also will not slip as they have the last two flats making contact with all 6 sides of the nut. We asked Shane for a link and here it is: amzn.to/3Lx02gy
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This is not correct example crow foot wrench.. You can use open ended wrench more safely.
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Dharmesh Desai, if you didn't understand why he made this video then please stop working with tools cause your comment makes you look like an idiot. Open end wrenches are not torque wrenches you dumbass, it is quite clear why he used a torque wrench with a crows foot while holding tension on the set screw with an allen wrench (key)....smdh
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@@How2Wrench I take it that the Snap On flare style in crow's foot is one of the strongest flare nut wrenches available ?
@@davidpowell3347 I have never tested different strengths. I do trust Snap On products though.
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