My dad had a mule for 1 yr old to about 20 years. She learned voice commands so well, dad could leave the lines on the harness & talk to her. He even sat under a shade tree once to show a neighbor he skills pulling a disc harrow. He said "come up" and she walked to the other side of the garden and only stopped when he said wow. "Haw" and she turned around and walked back to dad. Kit was her name. She would be 79 years old this spring.
I love all your horses. Do what you need to do, it is your life, not ours. Glad you allow us to tag along on the amazing adventures. Appreciate you both.
Give Duke a chance,he's very young and doing a good job.Yes he dose have a spring in his step but Barron has aswell.Three years ago the video where Lady totally freaked out on the road because of a few sheep in the field.Give Duke time he's a good strong and very willing horse.His little hiccup going into the trailer is not much of a problem you can sort this out Jim 😊
I would hate to see Duke or any of the Suffolk Punches go they are so beautiful and so gentle and well behaved, Duke just needs more time as he didn't get the same time as Earl has and i think he will be just as good of a horse as Baron and Earl if you give him the same time and training ,i know it is your decision to make but as you must know most of your viewers have fallen in love with the 3 popular Suffolk Punches. Thanks for the beautiful video .
I agree. Some horses take a bit longer than others to over come their issues. He's still young. If its a case of getting rid of a horse I guess I could understand then. Personally, I would look at getting rid of 1 of the fillies instead.
He has more horses than he has stalls. Eventually, someone is going to go. He is running a business with these horses, not playing with them in a show ring. He is going to have to evaluate which one least fits his needs in the woods, and this is part of the process. I would imagine he'll get Duke over his issues first: Jim is a consummate horseman. But these are the factors that will go into who stays, and who finds another home. Right now, he has two odd horses who don't have a teammate: Duke, and Ken. At some point, I would imagine he will make a decision on one or the other. Either one would make a really good horse for someone else. Ken is an excellent, well trained horse who just walks slower than Jim likes. Duke is very well started and has an excellent temperament. He may come around and be perfect, or he may just make a good farm horse for someone who doesn't trailer every day and doesn't use an excavator around him. There are already several people in the comments asking to have dibs on buying him, so he'll be fine either way.
I would take him in a heartbeat. I will drive from Idaho to pick him up. 😊 He would have a good life here with my Shire cross mare. Happy to work with his trailer loading issues.😊
Duke looks like a keeper to me. He's very well mannered and doesn't balk at all at heavy lifting and even seems to like to be a partial step ahead. The two questionable issues -- trailer loading and staying swung out slightly at the hitching area -- were minor especially considering he's quite young. He does seem to have good puller qualities. I'm not sure being suspicious of out of place elements like the house in the woods on the left could be considered a big problem but I'm used to being around pulling horses and many seem to always notice anything that is different or has changed somewhat. You just have to always be vigilant to read their head reaction signals anyway. I'm also used to seeing horses reluctant to get in the trailer. One may have been so because he was a little stringy and had a more difficult time backing out than most of the others. Both horses are quite impressive with their ability to back up over uneven terrain and even going right over the top of stumps with no problems. This seems a good testiment to what a fine horseman Jim is and excellent horses of course. I always love hearing the gee/haw voice commands. These videos are always so nicely done and the colorful leaves of the woods made for such beautiful scenery.
i did not want to comment until I thought this through. You have many animals on your farm; for the most part they are not pets but working animals that have to “earn” their keep as a productive part of your farm. You all (and I include Brenda and the girls) have to manage, maintain, and nurture these animals. But, and this is a big but, please do not give up on an animal because they are not learning as quickly as their siblings (ie, Earl vs. Duke). Duke is a special boy, with a sweet nature. He WILL respond and learn if you work him and give him the chance to shine.
They say: all the best ones have their quirks. It is PRETTY OBVIOUS that Jim can handle some mineses and DEFINITELY BRING OUT THE BEST OUT OF the horse. 😊
Oh boy…I’m almost afraid to say this BUT…I hope and pray you do keep Duke because I am afraid he won’t ever be corrected and trained if you give up on him. Jim, you and Brenda treat your horses so well and I’m sorry to say that isn’t the case for all horse owners. That being said I do know how farms/homesteads work and at some point the day will come when I know you will be parting with your horses for any number of reasons. We as subscribers get very attached to your farm animals as well as you and Brenda but I just could barely but breathe when I read your vlog post headline. I am one who STILL misses Buck and I know I will shed tears when the day comes you do part with animals…I just hope that day isn’t here yet. This is YOUR farm and you have to do what’s best for your situation, we all know this but I just hate the thought of any horse leaving but Duke needs a steady and well meaning trainer like yourself Jim. God will guide you best in your decision but I’m praying you will give this more consideration before you make that final call. On a positive note…I just love seeing you fell trees in the woods. Brings back so many memories of my own dear sweet father as he cut down trees for many folks. Sadly he is no longer with me but the memories will always be and watching you in the woods makes me smile as I remember those days years ago. Blessings to both you and Brenda during this time of uncertainty with Duke!!!:):):)
You are taking it a bit too serious, maybe some counseling to get the edges of? A farm: breeds, sells, eats kills and gives away animals that s farm life.
Brenda is a master at filming interesting, beautiful videos. Thank you for sharing. I understand that you have to make smart decisions with your farm and that it isn’t always easy, but when it comes to possibly selling some of the horses it must be extra hard. I don’t envy you having to do that.
Let’s give Brenda a shout out for her videoing! No wonder you have a slim figure , all the walking you do in rough terrain! Great job Brenda👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Your a patient man Jim and a beautiful team of horses!
Gorgeous views of the forest, with the under story trees still having leaves and the taller ones having dropped a lot of them. Good luck with Duke! He seems to have plenty of energy. He was trotting along.
Duke must love what he's doing because his mouth is all foamy. When a horse is happy he licks and chews his bit. Both of them are so beautiful. ❤🫶❤️NC🇺🇸
love all these vids, this is one of the best. I understand sometimes when you have so many horse, some have to go , some get to stay, not going to second guess you , some times it is what it is , But I hope Duke stays . he is such a magnificent horse
Hey Jim and Brenda, a wonderful video today. With your consistent work and training with Duke , he has great prospects of being a great pulling horse. He presently is going through some adjustments to the work and the trailering . I hauled an aluminum stock trailer for years but i always lined the floor with 4 x 5 ft stable matts which helped deadened the sound and road noise and like you do cover them with a good layer of shavings or sawdust.
Thanks Jim for another great video always enjoy either logging or plowing. A special thank for Brenda doing an outstanding job filming you and the beautiful scenery. Blessings and have a great weekend!!!
Hello from our farm in New Hampshire. Yes, I too have found my past horses had their different personalities and quirks, especially my younger one who was half Percheron ...and my favorite. I'm told they are as smart as a three year old human and that's pretty smart! I never kept a horse I considered to be dangerous, but I also never logged or worked the fields with mine. You need to do what is best for your farm. I hope it works out. ~ Diane
I have had this issues before , Usually due to a one bad experience in the trailer.. To resolve I put the trailer and horse in a dry lot and any equipment they are nervous around and just place their feed and water need go near and around their fears... some just take more time to come into their own.... He is a Suffolk my mare took till she was 6 before she got her brain on straight. now she is near perfect...
I think I’d consider working Duke solo for half a day everyday. Dragging stone boat, logs or whatever. Looks to me like Bill getting the pressure when Duke needs to feel it. Id like to be put on Dukes waiting list to buy.
Sometimes the challenging horses end up being really good horses!! I had a mare that acted like Duke. I just kept at it and she ended up being my best horse...with a lot of heart!!
I wondered in the video that Duke showed his fear of the excavator if it would be good to tie him to it while drawing logs with other horses. It would allow him to see there needn’t be fear. He seems to match Bill’s walking speed. Good young horse that needs seasoning. He has certainly grown into a big,strong worker.
Kept trying to leave a message when you were weighing the horses and noted Duke's weight was fluctuating. But my phone would freeze. The camera caught it. He messes with you by leaning his right hip against the wall. Check the recording
This scenery is gorgeous. I love the rustling of the leaves, creak of harness and wheels, but a serene ambiance! It would be a shame to lose Duke, but you must do whatever is best for you, considering time restraints, etc. It sounds encouraging that you seem to be thinking about it. Great video ❤😊
Thanks For Sharing This With Us Great Job Videoing Brenda I Stated A Month or so About Putting Duke With Bill And In A Few Years They Would Be A Top Team There's Just Something About Duke That Just Gives Me A Feeling He And Bill Would Be Able To Pull Logs Root ball And All And I Know You Have Horses For Logging And Farm Work And You Also Enjoy Going To Horse Pulls Guarantee In 2-3 Years No One Will Out Pull Duke And Bill Just Watching As You Were Pulling Out Logs He Is Willing To Dig In And Pull Hopefully He Gets Straightened Out On His Inconsistencies Just Keep Working Him He'll Come Around Blessings To Y'all And Please Be Safe ✌️
I suppose it could be likened to having your kids all trained up & grown...and starting over with a new kid!! Good boy, Duke!!! 🥰 The leaf colors are so beautiful! Quiet, relaxing video! Thanks! 💕
If you have ever ridden in an aluminum trailer like that one you would wonder why anyone (or horse) would ever get in it ever again. Cotton plugs in the ears should help. Maybe lead Duke and let him checkout the things that bother him? Maybe the little house isn’t Haunted. Great day in the woods! Enjoyed! Thx!
Try a bridle with no blinders. Duke is always looking around . Was at a couple of horse pulls this past summer and one teamster had a team with one horse blinder and the other horse none . I asked why and was told the horse without blinders was too skittish with the blinders . Just a suggestion Jim to try at no real extra cost to you .Cheers
Great suggestion Charlie .Jim you should be able to correct Dukes issues . As far as selling horses ,that's your decision .Duke and Earl should bring top dollar .😊
Like a lot of others I will keep an eye on his Mane. but if he has to go. its understandable. many other factors come into play. Logistics, Ecomonics. need or not for extra teams to work. maintain etc. so if the maine stays and Duke goes It will be understandable to me. thanks for the heads up and another good video God speed. ECF
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts about Duke - i hope he continues to improve, but if he ends up not making the cut, I have no doubt that you will be able to find him an excellent home!
Jim what I see,Duke may not wanto go to the woods to work! Now u have worked Baron till he’s really a good worker! Duke needs more OJT so work him with Ken then he’ll have two bosses you and Ken but still work him some with Bill. Well you and Bill are the pros at this business. Good luck👍
I don't know much about draft horses except what I've seen on this channel. But I do understand what Jim is saying about work as it relates to herding dogs. Work seems to make them better.....
I watch don't comment much . I thought this would come up you do have a lot of horses now . What ever you do I understand . You all ready have a taker for duck in the comments . A horse in training takes a lot of time . And you have seid you just haven't had the time for the young horses . You will do what's best for all . Thankyou for your teaching vidios both of you .ps my comment had a miss spell by default it ended up as a dirty word . I AM SO SORRY . I took care of it .
Funny because I have always thought you haven’t taken to Duke as much as Earl and Baron, it has been obvious to me so I wonder if he picks it up too! You haven’t worked him as much, your language about Duke hasn’t been as complimentary and I noticed you hadn’t cut his mane like Earl’s! Any way I have enjoyed your videos for many years and remember you buying the colts, if you do ‘dispose’ of Duke,mi hope you find a kind home for him.
The fall colors are beautiful where you live. Here in the Hudson Valley, we are getting a lot of oranges and yellows. I am so surprised we have those colors when it has been so dry. I have two maples in my yard that lost the brown, dried-up leaves last week. My other two maples have developed orange and yellow in the last few days. I think Duke just wants to see everything around him. He seems to follow Jim by turning his head and watching. That shed would bother me with all that yellow on the ground. Time will tell and we know you will make the right call when the time comes. Seven horses is a lot to take care of and exercise.
I'd be sad to see Duke leave, but it's your decision, and I'm sure you'll make the smart one. Just some thoughts on desensitising him to the excavator. More exposure may be beneficial? Make him watch all the unloading and loading while having his lunch. If he doesn't want to load, tie him as close if not to the excavator. Two picadillos that if solved, could pay off and give you your best horse.
🧐Liked your analysis thought process concerning Duke , long mane dat bad , short mane dat good, hope mane cut around the corner, Brenda nice shot or angle noticed uphill grade and horses doing excellent pull per usual great job, Jim/Brenda have a great weekend 👍👋
Your right he will overcome and will please his master .Negativity comes to destroy our wise thinking , I had a crappy dream just this morning about a situation from the past and I prayed and got control of that negativity right away .
Have you closely checked Duke's vision ? He seems to look repeatedly at things. People w vision issues often double check everything as they walk. Just a thought
For the few little kinks in Dukes training, he sure makes up for it in his willingness to put all of his strength into pulling. Sell Bree and June if you must. Mares can be a pain and they are a long way from being useful to you.
PG here, I was confusing Duke and Buck's name's for a moment. Duke? I trust Jim that you must make business decisions on farming and what is profitable. Any of your horses will go for top dollar. God has led me to horses for transportation. Like the Amish "Morgan" horses. I've seen videos of horses very attached to previous owners and other horses. This is a woman's thoughts on horses. I care about their emotional well being. At the same time, if he had his maleness in tact, I would definitely sell him so he could have his own herd of mares to dominate and set him free from his fears. His need to protect his herd would overcome any of his fears of man-made, unnatural machines. I know nothing about horses but what I learn from watching you. I would say Duke is the best horse you have. His fear of unnatural, ungodly, man-made machines is very good. He has been raised in nature, in the pastur and the forest, taught by the electric fences: stay away from man-made roads, trucks, cars, and items man uses.
You do what is best for your farm ❤sometimes you have to sell a horse if it’s not the right fit but I’m sure you will figure it all out !!hello to Brenda ❤thanks for the great video !!
I think Duke would do better with loading when you load another horse first into the horse trailer. He does not want to go in first because he thinks he is leaving his other horse friends. But when you loaded Bill in first Duke was ready and fine to go in next. I’m glad you told him he was a “Good boy!” It warmed my heart! Great video.
Well Jim would you like some"free advice " Take the emotion out and look at this as a business .Sell Duke and Earl and harness for top $ .($35,000) or more . Frees up tie stalls for Lady and Ken .Budwiser Clydesdale sell for $15,000 each , so my numbers are realistic . You have a nice problem to solve and could vet the suitability of the new owner . Are any of your pulling buddies interested. Duke and Earl could come back to beat you sometime in the future at a horse pull .Farming great fun .😊😊😊
how beautiful in the woods in the autumn.. autumn in full force. My favourite season because of the colours. so amazing. Even if you decide to sell Duke, he'll be better in most respects from how he's learning from the way you teach him.. and more likely to find a good home with all that he can do. obviously you know what you need to do. You might even consider keeping Duke, as he's improving, slowly but surely.. and consider selling one or both foals.. ? sad to see any of them go, but depends how many horses you can support.. I'm sure you'll make the right decision all round
How many acres is your farm Jim? Always great to watch you and the horses. Im retired from full time logging now. Just an observation, is Dukes Crupper a little loose? Worth checking its not causing a sore patch ;) I remember when he first heard the chainsaw while ago when he spooked. He didn't get to see and face what was happening. I know everyone is different but we never used blinkers in the woods, partly to prevent injury's to the eyes as in tight spots branches can get caught, but also so they can see whats going on. Andrea X
There are troublemakers that are evil, with evil intentions, always up to no good. But then there are the troublemakers that are full of ability, talent, and energy. Channel their abilities into the right direction, and they may become stars, paying you back handsomely for the extra effort you put into them. Fail to guide them properly, and they become evil. Will the young horse end up giving years of faithful service? Selling him while he's young and restless may not be as profitable as selling an older horse that maybe no longer fits the needs on the farm.
Since Duke worked better today that means he needs to be worked, he needs to be exposed to more work. You are the teacher ........ Teach. If you think you have too many horses stop breading Lady.
Feel better Connie? You do realize that it's not your horse, right? It may shock you to know that trying to boss a complete stranger around doesn't really work...weird, huh? 🙄
Thank you for the wonderful video. The trees are just so pretty. I felt like I was there with you. And as far as Duke goes, only you know what’s right for yourself and your horses. And you said some horse has to go and who’s the best to go. Duke would make a fine horse for another person just find him a good home!
If I have a horse that doesn't load I put panels behind the trailer put feed and water in the front of the trailer put horse in the panels pen and leave usually by morning they lead in and out fine
Thanks for talking about this. I’ll be curious to see what you decide. Does seem like you haven’t clicked as well with Duke as Earl and Barron. Always hard to sell a horse, but gotta work with ones you like!
I only listened for 5 minutes and already am thinking that the problem might be you and not him. I don't want you to be like the bad amish not all are bad, but a lot of rescues of the large breeds show just how bad they treat their horses. I'd hate to think Duke would end up like them. After all your years, can't you figure out why he's acting like he is. After my being critical maybe you think I'm crazy. My opinion of you was so high, really loved your great trained horses. These horses give you so much. Don't let them down. They deserve the best and not be thrown away at any age. I must be reacting through the stress of living these days, not knowing if our country will turn away from God and vote for the people that hate God and kill babies etc. Forgive me if you can.
Horse sweat and repetition, the best training aids ever! Consistency on the part of the teamster. I just started a new job in 95% red oak and it is to my mind the heaviest stuff, like dragging concrete. Have an enormous hill to climb every trip from the woods to the landing area and it makes me wish I had another driver waiting at the bottom with another team to hook on the front going up. Entire bush is in an inaccessible valley to trucks, and to draw a loaded wagon or sleigh up would take a 4up, so it is ten feet at a time. Long skid. I vote for keeping Duke! You are blessed to have an expert camera person. I have a hard time getting any action shots as I always seem to have my hands full of tools or lines. I just don't have the talent or a third hand.
HI JIM & BRENDA....What a glorious Fall day in the woods! The colors of the trees make a "Picture Perfect Postcard "! This is my favorite time of year. Sorry to hear Duke has been a bit of a problem lately, however, you said he did better today after working hard yesterday. You have worked Earl more along side Baron & Bill than with Duke, so perhaps Duke just needed more of your excellent training?! Anyway, I hope Duke stays around for a while longer.....I'll keep an eye on his mane!! Take care, stay warm and God bless.....😊❤😢❤😊
So, if a horse if doing something wrong, another person is expected to deal with it? Good, that you have your doubts if selling him would be the right decision.
I’m pretty sure that you wouldn’t sell duke. Or any of your horses, and even humans don’t all learn any thing as good as the next person at the same time. Even animals are all like humans , some are slow learners and others cotton on almost straight away…❤🎉
I think maybe you need to get a better trailer for your horses that makes less racket noise . That would help on the stress factor for your beloved workers 🫏🐎. You have magnificent work horses. ❤ You should keep them together as a team and family. 🇺🇸💯👍
Brenda should get an award for her camera skills. Great job Brenda🎉
He's still young and learning . I think Duke is very intelligent and he will be a great logging horse in years to come .
My dad had a mule for 1 yr old to about 20 years. She learned voice commands so well, dad could leave the lines on the harness & talk to her. He even sat under a shade tree once to show a neighbor he skills pulling a disc harrow. He said "come up" and she walked to the other side of the garden and only stopped when he said wow. "Haw" and she turned around and walked back to dad. Kit was her name. She would be 79 years old this spring.
I love all your horses. Do what you need to do, it is your life, not ours. Glad you allow us to tag along on the amazing adventures. Appreciate you both.
Give Duke a chance,he's very young and doing a good job.Yes he dose have a spring in his step but Barron has aswell.Three years ago the video where Lady totally freaked out on the road because of a few sheep in the field.Give Duke time he's a good strong and very willing horse.His little hiccup going into the trailer is not much of a problem you can sort this out Jim 😊
I would hate to see Duke or any of the Suffolk Punches go they are so beautiful and so gentle and well behaved, Duke just needs more time as he didn't get the same time as Earl has and i think he will be just as good of a horse as Baron and Earl if you give him the same time and training ,i know it is your decision to make but as you must know most of your viewers have fallen in love with the 3 popular Suffolk Punches.
Thanks for the beautiful video .
Im glad you are rethinking about NOT selling DUKE. I THINK YOU SHOULD KEEP HIM AND WORK WITH HIM TO HELP HIM OVERCOME HIS LITTLE SHORTCOMINGS!
I agree. Some horses take a bit longer than others to over come their issues. He's still young. If its a case of getting rid of a horse I guess I could understand then. Personally, I would look at getting rid of 1 of the fillies instead.
He has more horses than he has stalls. Eventually, someone is going to go. He is running a business with these horses, not playing with them in a show ring. He is going to have to evaluate which one least fits his needs in the woods, and this is part of the process. I would imagine he'll get Duke over his issues first: Jim is a consummate horseman. But these are the factors that will go into who stays, and who finds another home. Right now, he has two odd horses who don't have a teammate: Duke, and Ken. At some point, I would imagine he will make a decision on one or the other. Either one would make a really good horse for someone else. Ken is an excellent, well trained horse who just walks slower than Jim likes. Duke is very well started and has an excellent temperament. He may come around and be perfect, or he may just make a good farm horse for someone who doesn't trailer every day and doesn't use an excavator around him. There are already several people in the comments asking to have dibs on buying him, so he'll be fine either way.
@@thirzapeevey2395 I am not sure it is all that cut and dried. 😊
@@thirzapeevey2395 Well said. Nothing personal, they are running a business. And they have two colts that will be needing more attention from Jim.
@@MrSpinnerbug I've been watching Jim for 4 years, and I've gotten pretty familiar with how he thinks. Watch and see if I'm right or not.
I would take him in a heartbeat. I will drive from Idaho to pick him up. 😊 He would have a good life here with my Shire cross mare. Happy to work with his trailer loading issues.😊
His young will learn with time
Duke looks like a keeper to me. He's very well mannered and doesn't balk at all at heavy lifting and even seems to like to be a partial step ahead. The two questionable issues -- trailer loading and staying swung out slightly at the hitching area -- were minor especially considering he's quite young. He does seem to have good puller qualities. I'm not sure being suspicious of out of place elements like the house in the woods on the left could be considered a big problem but I'm used to being around pulling horses and many seem to always notice anything that is different or has changed somewhat. You just have to always be vigilant to read their head reaction signals anyway. I'm also used to seeing horses reluctant to get in the trailer. One may have been so because he was a little stringy and had a more difficult time backing out than most of the others.
Both horses are quite impressive with their ability to back up over uneven terrain and even going right over the top of stumps with no problems. This seems a good testiment to what a fine horseman Jim is and excellent horses of course. I always love hearing the gee/haw voice commands.
These videos are always so nicely done and the colorful leaves of the woods made for such beautiful scenery.
i did not want to comment until I thought this through. You have many animals on your farm; for the most part they are not pets but working animals that have to “earn” their keep as a productive part of your farm. You all (and I include Brenda and the girls) have to manage, maintain, and nurture these animals. But, and this is a big but, please do not give up on an animal because they are not learning as quickly as their siblings (ie, Earl vs. Duke). Duke is a special boy, with a sweet nature. He WILL respond and learn if you work him and give him the chance to shine.
They say: all the best ones have their quirks. It is PRETTY OBVIOUS that Jim can handle some mineses and DEFINITELY BRING OUT THE BEST OUT OF the horse. 😊
Duke seems to be very intelligent and curious. Probably will settle down to being one of your best horses. Please be patient with him.
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Oh boy…I’m almost afraid to say this BUT…I hope and pray you do keep Duke because I am afraid he won’t ever be corrected and trained if you give up on him. Jim, you and Brenda treat your horses so well and I’m sorry to say that isn’t the case for all horse owners. That being said I do know how farms/homesteads work and at some point the day will come when I know you will be parting with your horses for any number of reasons. We as subscribers get very attached to your farm animals as well as you and Brenda but I just could barely but breathe when I read your vlog post headline. I am one who STILL misses Buck and I know I will shed tears when the day comes you do part with animals…I just hope that day isn’t here yet. This is YOUR farm and you have to do what’s best for your situation, we all know this but I just hate the thought of any horse leaving but Duke needs a steady and well meaning trainer like yourself Jim. God will guide you best in your decision but I’m praying you will give this more consideration before you make that final call. On a positive note…I just love seeing you fell trees in the woods. Brings back so many memories of my own dear sweet father as he cut down trees for many folks. Sadly he is no longer with me but the memories will always be and watching you in the woods makes me smile as I remember those days years ago. Blessings to both you and Brenda during this time of uncertainty with Duke!!!:):):)
Thank you!
You are taking it a bit too serious, maybe some counseling to get the edges of? A farm: breeds, sells, eats kills and gives away animals that s farm life.
@@Wendy-bd9zu I have God as my therapist so I’m doing just fine thankyou!!!:):):)
Brenda is a master at filming interesting, beautiful videos. Thank you for sharing. I understand that you have to make smart decisions with your farm and that it isn’t always easy, but when it comes to possibly selling some of the horses it must be extra hard. I don’t envy you having to do that.
Let’s give Brenda a shout out for her videoing! No wonder you have a slim figure , all the walking you do in rough terrain! Great job Brenda👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Your a patient man Jim and a beautiful team of horses!
Gorgeous views of the forest, with the under story trees still having leaves and the taller ones having dropped a lot of them. Good luck with Duke! He seems to have plenty of energy. He was trotting along.
Yes, the understory trees were so beautiful that day since they were so close by
Duke must love what he's doing because his mouth is all foamy. When a horse is happy he licks and chews his bit. Both of them are so beautiful.
❤🫶❤️NC🇺🇸
love all these vids, this is one of the best. I understand sometimes when you have so many horse, some have to go , some get to stay, not going to second guess you , some times it is what it is , But I hope Duke stays . he is such a magnificent horse
Sounds like you have a good understanding of it all
@@WorkingHorsesWithJim thank you jim
Hey Jim and Brenda, a wonderful video today. With your consistent work and training with Duke , he has great prospects of being a great pulling horse. He presently is going through some adjustments to the work and the trailering . I hauled an aluminum stock trailer for years but i always lined the floor with 4 x 5 ft stable matts which helped deadened the sound and road noise and like you do cover them with a good layer of shavings or sawdust.
Thanks Jim for another great video always enjoy either logging or plowing. A special thank for Brenda doing an outstanding job filming you and the beautiful scenery. Blessings and have a great weekend!!!
You’re welcome, and thanks for watching!
Hello from our farm in New Hampshire. Yes, I too have found my past horses had their different personalities and quirks, especially my younger one who was half Percheron ...and my favorite. I'm told they are as smart as a three year old human and that's pretty smart! I never kept a horse I considered to be dangerous, but I also never logged or worked the fields with mine. You need to do what is best for your farm. I hope it works out. ~ Diane
LOL Duke heard you say he might be sold....Was a good boy today. My boss told me I might be fired, I worked twice as hard for a few weeks.
I have had this issues before , Usually due to a one bad experience in the trailer.. To resolve I put the trailer and horse in a dry lot and any equipment they are nervous around and just place their feed and water need go near and around their fears... some just take more time to come into their own.... He is a Suffolk my mare took till she was 6 before she got her brain on straight. now she is near perfect...
Yes, sometimes it just takes time
I think I’d consider working Duke solo for half a day everyday. Dragging stone boat, logs or whatever. Looks to me like Bill getting the pressure when Duke needs to feel it. Id like to be put on Dukes waiting list to buy.
Sometimes the challenging horses end up being really good horses!! I had a mare that acted like Duke. I just kept at it and she ended up being my best horse...with a lot of heart!!
Practice makes perfect, they all learn at different speeds!!! I'm sure he will soon have made even more progress!!!!
Thank you Brenda for the beautiful scenery shots. So gorgeous.
I wondered in the video that Duke showed his fear of the excavator if it would be good to tie him to it while drawing logs with other horses. It would allow him to see there needn’t be fear. He seems to match Bill’s walking speed. Good young horse that needs seasoning. He has certainly grown into a big,strong worker.
yes,,that's what dad would do
Kept trying to leave a message when you were weighing the horses and noted Duke's weight was fluctuating. But my phone would freeze. The camera caught it. He messes with you by leaning his right hip against the wall. Check the recording
The Woods in the Fall are so beautiful! Lpve the leaves!
This scenery is gorgeous. I love the rustling of the leaves, creak of harness and wheels, but a serene ambiance! It would be
a shame to lose Duke, but you must do whatever is best for you, considering time restraints, etc. It sounds encouraging that you seem to be thinking about it. Great video ❤😊
Ohboy! This has frightened me! Jim i respect you and Brenda so much. I pray you will keep Duke! Pray about him please?
you once said "that your horses could live out there life's on the farm and not have a thing to worry about"
Thanks For Sharing This With Us Great Job Videoing Brenda I Stated A Month or so About Putting Duke With Bill And In A Few Years They Would Be A Top Team There's Just Something About Duke That Just Gives Me A Feeling He And Bill Would Be Able To Pull Logs Root ball And All And I Know You Have Horses For Logging And Farm Work And You Also Enjoy Going To Horse Pulls Guarantee In 2-3 Years No One Will Out Pull Duke And Bill Just Watching As You Were Pulling Out Logs He Is Willing To Dig In And Pull Hopefully He Gets Straightened Out On His Inconsistencies Just Keep Working Him He'll Come Around Blessings To Y'all And Please Be Safe ✌️
Duke❤ This makes me sad and my heart feel heavy. You own him . You are up to the challenge.😢Large ear plugs for the big goof ball.😂
You leave their ears totally alone! In saying that I also mean those ear bonnets we see these days.
I suppose it could be likened to having your kids all trained up & grown...and starting over with a new kid!!
Good boy, Duke!!! 🥰
The leaf colors are so beautiful!
Quiet, relaxing video! Thanks! 💕
You could always put some cotton ear plugs in for the trailer ride.
The video is beautyful❤ Those boys sure can pull for beginners❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
you know sometimes your problem horse turns out to be the best horse, he may just need more training, some are harder than others!
I love all of your horses and would be sad if Duke left, but it’s none of my business. You know what you’re doing. ❤
If you have ever ridden in an aluminum trailer like that one you would wonder why anyone (or horse) would ever get in it ever again. Cotton plugs in the ears should help. Maybe lead Duke and let him checkout the things that bother him? Maybe the little house isn’t Haunted. Great day in the woods! Enjoyed! Thx!
Try a bridle with no blinders. Duke is always looking around . Was at a couple of horse pulls this past summer and one teamster had a team with one horse blinder and the other horse none . I asked why and was told the horse without blinders was too skittish with the blinders . Just a suggestion Jim to try at no real extra cost to you .Cheers
Jim has talked about why using the blinders in a previous video.....to help shield the eyes from twigs or branches.
Great suggestion Charlie .Jim you should be able to correct Dukes issues . As far as selling horses ,that's your decision .Duke and Earl should bring top dollar .😊
He's still young and learning . I think Duke is very intelligent and he will be a great logging horse in years to come . He is also a beautiful horse.
the fall colors!
Like a lot of others I will keep an eye on his Mane. but if he has to go. its understandable. many other factors come into play. Logistics, Ecomonics. need or not for extra teams to work. maintain etc. so if the maine stays and Duke goes It will be understandable to me. thanks for the heads up and another good video God speed. ECF
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts about Duke - i hope he continues to improve, but if he ends up not making the cut, I have no doubt that you will be able to find him an excellent home!
I love your videos in the woods the colors are amazing.
Jim what I see,Duke may not wanto go to the woods to work! Now u have worked Baron till he’s really a good worker! Duke needs more OJT so work him with Ken then he’ll have two bosses you and Ken but still work him some with Bill. Well you and Bill are the pros at this business. Good luck👍
I don't know much about draft horses except what I've seen on this channel. But I do understand what Jim is saying about work as it relates to herding dogs. Work seems to make them better.....
Yes it definitely does!
I watch don't comment much . I thought this would come up you do have a lot of horses now . What ever you do I understand . You all ready have a taker for duck in the comments .
A horse in training takes a lot of time .
And you have seid you just haven't had the time for the young horses .
You will do what's best for all .
Thankyou for your teaching vidios both of you .ps my comment had a miss spell by default it ended up as a dirty word . I AM SO
SORRY . I took care of it .
Hoffentlich landet Duke bei jemanden, der sich die Zeit nimmt und nicht die Peitsche und der genügend Wissen und Geduld hat.
Funny because I have always thought you haven’t taken to Duke as much as Earl and Baron, it has been obvious to me so I wonder if he picks it up too! You haven’t worked him as much, your language about Duke hasn’t been as complimentary and I noticed you hadn’t cut his mane like Earl’s! Any way I have enjoyed your videos for many years and remember you buying the colts, if you do ‘dispose’ of Duke,mi hope you find a kind home for him.
Duke must've overheard Jim thinking about selling him and is trying to work harder to compensate lol.
Haha, yes, he's doing good!
Agreed they understand
Soothing to watch the leaves floating in the air. I miss that. Don't have that in the cedar forests of NM.
The fall colors are beautiful where you live. Here in the Hudson Valley, we are getting a lot of oranges and yellows. I am so surprised we have those colors when it has been so dry. I have two maples in my yard that lost the brown, dried-up leaves last week. My other two maples have developed orange and yellow in the last few days. I think Duke just wants to see everything around him. He seems to follow Jim by turning his head and watching. That shed would bother me with all that yellow on the ground. Time will tell and we know you will make the right call when the time comes. Seven horses is a lot to take care of and exercise.
Love the sounds of the buckles & chains, makes my teeth soft 😊
Breathe some of that mountain air for me. So beautiful.
It was such a beautiful day!
I'd be sad to see Duke leave, but it's your decision, and I'm sure you'll make the smart one. Just some thoughts on desensitising him to the excavator. More exposure may be beneficial? Make him watch all the unloading and loading while having his lunch. If he doesn't want to load, tie him as close if not to the excavator. Two picadillos that if solved, could pay off and give you your best horse.
🧐Liked your analysis thought process concerning Duke , long mane dat bad , short mane dat good, hope mane cut around the corner, Brenda nice shot or angle noticed uphill grade and horses doing excellent pull per usual great job, Jim/Brenda have a great weekend 👍👋
As you know Jim patience is a virtue he’s been frightened somewhere I guess good luck 😁👍
I’m interested in him lf you decide.
Your right he will overcome and will please his master .Negativity comes to destroy our wise thinking , I had a crappy dream just this morning about a situation from the past and I prayed and got control of that negativity right away .
Have you closely checked Duke's vision ? He seems to look repeatedly at things. People w vision issues often double check everything as they walk. Just a thought
does he need a chiropractic adjustment? Pulling contest maybe put him out of alignment?
Jim you do a great job with training and with work. I hope you take anything to heart from the naysayers
Good job team, looks like Duke is making progress
For the few little kinks in Dukes training, he sure makes up for it in his willingness to put all of his strength into pulling. Sell Bree and June if you must. Mares can be a pain and they are a long way from being useful to you.
I think Duke is a smart thinking horse and a real beauty!!!!
PG here, I was confusing Duke and Buck's name's for a moment. Duke? I trust Jim that you must make business decisions on farming and what is profitable. Any of your horses will go for top dollar. God has led me to horses for transportation. Like the Amish "Morgan" horses. I've seen videos of horses very attached to previous owners and other horses. This is a woman's thoughts on horses. I care about their emotional well being. At the same time, if he had his maleness in tact, I would definitely sell him so he could have his own herd of mares to dominate and set him free from his fears. His need to protect his herd would overcome any of his fears of man-made, unnatural machines. I know nothing about horses but what I learn from watching you. I would say Duke is the best horse you have. His fear of unnatural, ungodly, man-made machines is very good. He has been raised in nature, in the pastur and the forest, taught by the electric fences: stay away from man-made roads, trucks, cars, and items man uses.
You do what is best for your farm ❤sometimes you have to sell a horse if it’s not the right fit but I’m sure you will figure it all out !!hello to Brenda ❤thanks for the great video !!
I think Duke would do better with loading when you load another horse first into the horse trailer. He does not want to go in first because he thinks he is leaving his other horse friends. But when you loaded Bill in first Duke was ready and fine to go in next. I’m glad you told him he was a “Good boy!” It warmed my heart! Great video.
Reversing up that trail - amazing
Never ever I sxaw such a beautiful autumn movie. Rganksa Brenda!
The trees are so pretty. Love your channel.
Great video, be safe and be well,
It sounds to my inexperienced ears that Duke doesn’t want to go logging!
Brenda you have to be exhausted after your walk through the woods. Skippy has to sleep well also.
Well Jim would you like some"free advice " Take the emotion out and look at this as a business .Sell Duke and Earl and harness for top $ .($35,000) or more . Frees up tie stalls for Lady and Ken .Budwiser Clydesdale sell for $15,000 each , so my numbers are realistic . You have a nice problem to solve and could vet the suitability of the new owner . Are any of your pulling buddies interested. Duke and Earl could come back to beat you sometime in the future at a horse pull .Farming great fun .😊😊😊
Really enjoy your logging videos, thanks for posting these.👍👍
how beautiful in the woods in the autumn.. autumn in full force. My favourite season because of the colours. so amazing.
Even if you decide to sell Duke, he'll be better in most respects from how he's learning from the way you teach him.. and more likely to find a good home with all that he can do.
obviously you know what you need to do.
You might even consider keeping Duke, as he's improving, slowly but surely.. and consider selling one or both foals.. ?
sad to see any of them go, but depends how many horses you can support..
I'm sure you'll make the right decision all round
They are great beautiful boys.
Thank you and God bless.
How many acres is your farm Jim?
Always great to watch you and the horses. Im retired from full time logging now.
Just an observation, is Dukes Crupper a little loose? Worth checking its not causing a sore patch ;)
I remember when he first heard the chainsaw while ago when he spooked. He didn't get to see and face what was happening.
I know everyone is different but we never used blinkers in the woods, partly to prevent injury's to the eyes as in tight spots branches can get caught, but also so they can see whats going on. Andrea X
If you need to downsize then the one that gives trouble is the one that must go
There are troublemakers that are evil, with evil intentions, always up to no good. But then there are the troublemakers that are full of ability, talent, and energy. Channel their abilities into the right direction, and they may become stars, paying you back handsomely for the extra effort you put into them. Fail to guide them properly, and they become evil. Will the young horse end up giving years of faithful service? Selling him while he's young and restless may not be as profitable as selling an older horse that maybe no longer fits the needs on the farm.
Make a ram into the trailer Might be causeing him troubles getting into the trailer We made. A ramp for out older horse
Since Duke worked better today that means he needs to be worked, he needs to be exposed to more work. You are the teacher ........ Teach. If you think you have too many horses stop breading Lady.
Feel better Connie? You do realize that it's not your horse, right? It may shock you to know that trying to boss a complete stranger around doesn't really work...weird, huh? 🙄
@conniepoust2127 Chill out Connie !!
He doesn't bread Lady! He breeds her 😂😂
@@rubyklumpenhower9491Ah, but he has her Bred. 🤔
Thank you for the wonderful video. The trees are just so pretty. I felt like I was there with you. And as far as Duke goes, only you know what’s right for yourself and your horses. And you said some horse has to go and who’s the best to go. Duke would make a fine horse for another person just find him a good home!
If I have a horse that doesn't load I put panels behind the trailer put feed and water in the front of the trailer put horse in the panels pen and leave usually by morning they lead in and out fine
Thanks for talking about this. I’ll be curious to see what you decide. Does seem like you haven’t clicked as well with Duke as Earl and Barron. Always hard to sell a horse, but gotta work with ones you like!
Do your horses get chiropractic adjustments? Maybe he’s acting different cause he’s not feeling right. ❤
Those are some nice logs.
I only listened for 5 minutes and already am thinking that the problem might be you and not him. I don't want you to be like the bad amish not all are bad, but a lot of rescues of the large breeds show just how bad they treat their horses. I'd hate to think Duke would end up like them. After all your years, can't you figure out why he's acting like he is. After my being critical maybe you think I'm crazy. My opinion of you was so high, really loved your great trained horses. These horses give you so much. Don't let them down. They deserve the best and not be thrown away at any age. I must be reacting through the stress of living these days, not knowing if our country will turn away from God and vote for the people that hate God and kill babies etc. Forgive me if you can.
Horse sweat and repetition, the best training aids ever! Consistency on the part of the teamster. I just started a new job in 95% red oak and it is to my mind the heaviest stuff, like dragging concrete. Have an enormous hill to climb every trip from the woods to the landing area and it makes me wish I had another driver waiting at the bottom with another team to hook on the front going up. Entire bush is in an inaccessible valley to trucks, and to draw a loaded wagon or sleigh up would take a 4up, so it is ten feet at a time. Long skid.
I vote for keeping Duke! You are blessed to have an expert camera person. I have a hard time getting any action shots as I always seem to have my hands full of tools or lines. I just don't have the talent or a third hand.
The cattle dog in Skip wants to herd the wagon, logs …anything!
Have faith Jim. He has spirit and a little jittery, hopefully he will settle down. ✨️🇨🇦
HI JIM & BRENDA....What a glorious Fall day in the woods! The colors of the trees make a "Picture Perfect Postcard "! This is my favorite time of year. Sorry to hear Duke has been a bit of a problem lately, however, you said he did better today after working hard yesterday. You have worked Earl more along side Baron & Bill than with Duke, so perhaps Duke just needed more of your excellent training?! Anyway, I hope Duke stays around for a while longer.....I'll keep an eye on his mane!! Take care, stay warm and God bless.....😊❤😢❤😊
That house spooked me the first time I saw it as well!!!! Wonder what the story is on it.
So, if a horse if doing something wrong, another person is expected to deal with it? Good, that you have your doubts if selling him would be the right decision.
I think it is too soon to give up on Duke. However, which others are on that list?
I’m pretty sure that you wouldn’t sell duke. Or any of your horses, and even humans don’t all learn any thing as good as the next person at the same time. Even animals are all like humans , some are slow learners and others cotton on almost straight away…❤🎉
I think maybe you need to get a better trailer for your horses that makes less racket noise . That would help on the stress factor for your beloved workers 🫏🐎. You have magnificent work horses. ❤ You should keep them together as a team and family. 🇺🇸💯👍