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Canon EOS 700D or EOS M? Which one to buy? ⎮Magic Lantern Crop Mood
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ย. 2023
- A comparison between the Canon EOS 700D and the Canon EOS M with Magic Lantern Crop Mood Installed
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Normally I use the EOS M for my videos, in this case because I needed to show both M and 700D I used the BMPCC 4K coupled with Meike lenses.
I'm enjoying my EOS M. This is my entry into photography and film making. I built a rig and bought some used lenses, but I love the option of being able to shoot handheld. The vintage lenses i picked up are so fun to use as it brings a lot of character to the scenes.
Thank you for your videos and tutorials. They are inspiring
Thank you!! Vintage lenses are my go to. I love the Canon FD 50mm. I own the FD 28mm too, and I'm thinking to buy the FD 24mm, 35mm and 85mm, to complete a set of FD lens
@@russo-filmmaking A couple more questions: Are there any differences with write speeds or resolution options?
@@Decoii there is no difference between the Canon EOSM and the Canon 700D regarding resolutions options and write speed.
Great breakdown Sergio 👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you Cole!! 🙏🏻
Thank you Sergio as well for the analysis and Colin too. You both have been invaluable to my filmmaking journey. You both do phenomenal work and provide easy to understand.
@@CSoprano103 Thank you so much !!
Excellent comparison. Thanks for creating and sharing.
Thank you for watching!!
Planning to buy eos m to replace my 700d.. but now there is no need to.. I will
Just buy good fast memory card🙂 Thanks and Haribol🙏
Thanks for watching!!
Thank you for sharing this sir. God bless!
Thanks for watching!!
Awwww man somehow I'd also like the 700D route because I dont want to rig this camera but EF/EF-S lenses are so much bigger -.- The VWF and the tiltable display are so epic for unrigged cameras
I agree that tiltable display is a big pro. The only cont for me is that I can't mount a focal reducer. Another thing it's that I like to add a lot of weight to the camera for handheld shots to get stable images, and with the 700D it's a little more tricky to add that weight maintaining a decent look of the whole rig. And obviously for taking pictiures the 700D wins
@@russo-filmmaking Why for taking pictures does the 700D win?
@@lucasferrer7005 I don’t understand. I can take pictures with both cameras and the quality is the same.
2:01 You can use the NiceyRig cage that was made for the 90D and sligthly modify it. Cut the safery pin and buy a dummy battery since the battery door does not align with the cage. Other than that it looks really nice on my 700D
Yeah I know of that cage, but I almost don't use the 700D so I'm ok with the battery grip.
I used the eos M first, but since the 700D has a tilting screen I got that camera as well, because I thought it would be more suitable for shooting. As you said, the image quality is the same, and the 700D did not show me a greater advantage in use, while the eos M has a much larger selection of affordable manual lenses, and since it is much smaller, I always decide to take it with me, and I hardly ever use the 700D, but I'll keep it as a backup for now.
Yeah, I use the 700D only if I'm travelling with a stabilized lens ( the sigma e17-50mm F2.8), so I don't have to carry a tripod or an external monitor with me
this is what i wanted!
Thanks!!
Hi Sergio, i was thinking about getting a battery grip for my 700D. Do you have a link or the brand of yours ? I saw the Neewer one from my side. Also do you use LP-E08 into it or regular batteries ? Thanks ;)
Hey, in the description there are the links to my gear including the battery grip. I use it with 2 LP-E8 batteries, and you also use it with regular batteries
thank you sir
thanks, you're welcome
Nice video! 🤗 How long can these cameras record raw video? I suppose they overheat
well I used the EOS M for almost all my TH-cam videos, short movies, music videos and never had problems with raw record time. It depends on how you use it and you set it. If you learn how to shoot with magic lantern you won’t have any problem.
@@russo-filmmaking thank you for your response 🤗Sure, here it is in English:
Do you mean that with Magic Lantern I can record almost unlimitedly? Can I record for an hour, for example, without stopping? In raw 4k for example?
@LaMakinaFotonika it depends from the settings you use, if you for example use the 3x3 mode you can record one hour if your sd card has enough space because the raw files are very large. I really never recorded 1 hour without stopping the camera (for the kind of work I do) but I did continuosly shots of more than 15 minutes, recording some event in 4.2k anamorphic mode in 12bit without any issue. With magic lantern there is no real 4K, you can shoot 4.2K, 4.6k, 4.8K up to 5.2K in anamorphic mode. In my channel there is a video on crop mood where I explain the main resolutions in which you can shoot and what of them is more stable .
@@russo-filmmaking thank you so much 🤗
IT seems that the 700D does not have Image Stabilization for video. I wonder if the 700D with Magic Lantern can Provide Autofocus during record? the 700D on Magic lantern has lower ISO than the 100 of the Eos m? I am considering buying a second camera and the Screen of the 700D seems an attractive point for me. As always thank you Sergio for your videos, I really rely on your videos to make my Eos M work!
the 700D a part the split screen and some ergonomic button on the body, is identical to the EOS M as I explain in the video: same quality, some problems. Autofocus is bad like the EOS M, and no ISO lower than 100. The difference I noticed is that when the 700D heat it stop record while the EOS M don’t.
Does the autofocus work well on it? Doesn't shooting video in RAW turn itself off?
Autofocus on these cameras for video is bad. You can turn it on but I wouldn't do it, if you don't want to risk ruining your footage. I watch to these digital cameras more like cine cameras because you learn to pull the focus manually like a pro
Are there any differences on recording capability? I know that 700d can record up to 40mb/s , while eos m can double or more that number. Is that right?
I don't think so. Depending on resolution and preset I normally get between 75-82mb/s with the 700D. The only thing I noticed with the 700D is that (at least mine) easily in a warm environment (more than 27 degree celsius) reaches more than 54 degree celsius very fast, and this causes problems when recording.
Great Tutorial Sir I Really Liked EOS M. Could You Please Help Me Find A Way to Buy It ?
Thank you!! I bought my EOS M and 700D on eBay. It's the easy way.
Isn't the 5dMarkiii the top Magic Lantern camera? Or did crop mood change that?
Crop Mood works only with M, 700D, 650D, 100D, and it doesn't work with 5d. The 5d as a better sensor, it's full frame. Has a better image quality but if you want to shoot in High resolutions modes you can get a real time preview, while you can with crop mood.
@@russo-filmmaking Thanks! That's really helpful. I've got the EOS M and 5D Mark II bodies (with a bunch of others...) as well as the BMPCC 4K. I love the BMPCC, but there's something truly filmic about the videos I've been shooting with ML on the M and 5D Mark II. I can't quite emulate it on the BMPCC, although I'm a complete noob when it comes to color correction and grading. The videos from ML look a lot like my dad's old Kodachromes - really rich, saturated colors, warm, slightly muted and compressed color palette. Really gorgeous.
Zeek's videos on his channel show the rich, gorgeous colors that ML in RAW mode is capable of.
Again, many thanks!
cheers!
J
@@JohnFisk-OHS-78 yeah with ML you get a different image feeling very closed to real film
good morning, do you know why when I record the material later and want to download it to my laptop, I can't see these mvl files at all in the camera, everything is in the preview
I didn't understand your question: if you are asking how do you can preview your file in camera than You can preview your files in your camera with the play button. There are 2 options you can choose after pushing the preview button: color and fast. Color gives you a choppy preview, about 16-18 Frame per second. So I suggest to use the fast option: quality is poor and image is B/W but you get almost 23 frame per second. For checking your shoots, your framing and composition in camera, it's enough ok.
I have two more problems, I will immediately write that the lens attached is a Canon 22mm stm with autofocus when I am in photo mode, when I enter the menu there are only 3 options with a camera sign, in all the videos I watched there were 4 (4 dots next to the camera) only when I enter the video mode then it shows up and I can't upload my profile picture.
@@russo-filmmaking
and the second thing I noticed is that when I switch to video mode, I have the automatic exposure setting mode all the time and I don't know how to unlock this exposure change because the exposure time is always 1/33, when I press info and the "Q" symbol appears in the upper right corner, after pressing some options are enabled but literally for a second and nothing can be changed
@@russo-filmmaking
Keep out your Sd card before to turn on your camera. After that, turn on your camera in video mode. It will appear the caption "no card in camera". Press the info button and in the upper left corner select the camera icon. Then be sure to select the camera icon with the M. After that (very important) click again the info button several time until only the caption "no card in camera" appears in the screen .Turn off the camera and insert your SD card. Know your camera is set to manual mode. Another thing: in order to be able to change the shutter speed (which I suggest to set to 1/50), in the magic lantern menu under the movie tab select movie tweaks and set shutter lock off. Check my previous videos on the crop mood where I explain how to change the ISO the aperture and the shutter speed.
thank you so much
@@russo-filmmaking
What did u use to film yourself in this video ?
Normally I use the EOS M to shoot myself in my videos. In this case I used the BMPCC 4k because I showcase the 700D and the EOSM
hmm...can you show how the files hold up on post-processing between them?
sorry probably I don't understand the question: if you means as files the images of each camera, than there are no difference between them as I showed in the video at 2:41. If you means how the images of each camera look after color grading side by side the answer is: they look identical applying the same post- processing.
@@russo-filmmaking I mean when you edit them..post processing...recovering highlight or shadow...pushing the color...which one holds better...im quite interested with the 700d...
@@russo-filmmaking oh ok..i just press the read more and you already explain it...its quite surprising eos m can hold the candle with the 700d...thanks man...
@@dboysify yes, at the end both cameras mount the same digit 5 sensor. Only change the lens mount
In my channel there are some videos where I pushed the grade of the EOS M to the limits. Check the video on how to recreate a blade runner scene and its color grade tutorial or the other video on how to recreate a scene from The Girl with the Dragon tattoo
What version of ML are you using? Mine works like shit
I use Magic Lantern Crop Mood, the latest version. Very stable and reliable. In my channel there are 3 video talking about this build
Eos M cheap/cheaper manual "china" efm lens, unproffesional casual look ;) + We're waiting for Mount compatible with Sony-EFM
Cole Power is working on his E-mount to EFM mount adapter. I would be a game changer
@@russo-filmmaking Yes definitely. Sometimes I think about 1.2 +- f0.9 lenses, but only for a niche EFM it is a risky investment, if I change my hobby or photographic system, I would have expensive exhibits on my desk. :D
@@fhfddjvheufid6213 I adapted the ef-m mount for sony e lenses, so that I can use manual lenses for the sony e mount system, and if I want to, I can later sell them more easily than ef-m lenses. Currently I have only two EF-M lenses (Kit 15-45mm and Tatartisan 17mm 1.4), and a large number of manual lenses (Konica, Helios, Nikorr, Industar, Pentacon, Jupiter etc.) that I use with an adapter for the Sony e system, as well as manual Sony e lenses like 7artisan 35mm 0.95 and Walimex 12mm f2. Adapting the mount on the eos M has significantly increased its versatility in using the different lenses I own.