10 Underrated Alto Players You Should Know About | bernie's bootlegs

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  • @mattdavis9801
    @mattdavis9801 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My list would probably include:
    Vincent Herring
    Will Vinson
    Paquito d’Riviera
    Sonny Criss
    Ted Nash
    Warren Maxwell (Fulla Flash)
    Sherman Irby
    Miguel Zenon
    Fancesco Cafiso
    Karolina Strassmayer

  • @mirazusta2002
    @mirazusta2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clifford Solomon could also be included in this list. As for Gary Bartz and Hank Crawford, well, I believe they were widely recognized and well established as alto saxos from the very begining of their careers. Thus, Gary Bartz was enlisted in the Miles Davis band by Mr. Davis himself back in 1970 for his legendary concert on the Island of Wight, the result of which can be forever enjoyed in Miles Davis avant-grade album Live-Evil. All those events were quite an achievement for a relatively young musician back then . Hank Crawford, on the other hand, was musical director of Ray Charles, and also accompanied other big mames, such as B.B.King, as alto sax. Other than that, I have to congratulate you on your video and thank you for posting it, it is most interesting, and relevant. I think that in the case of these excellent musicians you mention in your video, the problem was that once they reached their respective peaks as performers, they didn't enjoy the same degree of popularity as other musicians, maybe due to a lack of media exposure, which doesn't mean they are not accomplished musicians on their own right.

  • @mr.mxyzptlk6233
    @mr.mxyzptlk6233 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    WILL VINSON!! Haha seriously one of my favorites.

  • @PascalbigT
    @PascalbigT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After listening, have to say, Dick Oatts and Jaleel Shaw are personal favorites of mine from this list. Thanks Bernie Sanders!

  • @wilfiewilliams1638
    @wilfiewilliams1638 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    James Spaulding

    • @SidLaw500
      @SidLaw500 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He steals the show on Wayne Shorter's The Soothsayer

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      James is brilliant.

  • @gjudd
    @gjudd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice compilation!
    I've had the good fortune to hear Binney & Shaw live, together with some stellar musicians (Binney with Craig Taborn, Evind Opsvik, Brian Blade(?)) & Shaw with Ben Williams among others); familiar with Cleanhead Vinson, McPherson, & Richie Cole from other places

  • @Herehear49
    @Herehear49 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks much! Enlightening! A top 50 would probably accommodate everyone's choices of overlooked players.

  • @mattdavis9801
    @mattdavis9801 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hank Crawford! Love that tone!

  • @renan-teuman
    @renan-teuman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the videos, now it's time for 10 underrated drummers!

    • @unkysonny
      @unkysonny 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      + bernie's bootlegs
      Roy Brooks?

  • @mmorabito22
    @mmorabito22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow what a great list. Thanks Bernie!

  • @martinsaltzman5003
    @martinsaltzman5003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Patrick Bartley belongs high on this list especially when he plays with Emmet Cohen.

  • @kendricbaines2415
    @kendricbaines2415 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dick Oatts is in that recording of Charles McPh. and the Jon faddis JO. hes lead alto.

  • @sharonibaloni6693
    @sharonibaloni6693 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i saw hank crawford as an opening act for herbie hancock in around 1970. never saw no one else crawford and band were superb

  • @noahwagner4812
    @noahwagner4812 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The alto player on stage with Dick Oatts in that recording is Danny Janklow. He's also a killer player.

  • @henridelagardere4584
    @henridelagardere4584 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:00 - *Charles McPherson* - "Cherokee" - Jon Faddis, ld;
    1:57 - *Hank Crawford" - "Everyday I Have The Blues" - Bob DeVos, g; Jimmy McGriff, org; Jimmie Smith, dr; - *1989* - San Diego
    3:55 - *Eddie Cleanhead Vinson* - "Clean Head Blues" - Hank Crawford, as; David Fathead Newman, fl; George Wein, p; Milt Hinton, b; Alan Dawson, dr; *1978* - France
    5:20 - *Gary Bartz* - "You're Sensational" - Barney McAll, p; James King, b; Greg Bandy, dr; *2015* . Serbia
    7:20 - *Richie Cole* - "I Can't Get Started" -
    9:18 - *Mark Vinci* - "
    10:53 - *Dick Oatts* - "Alaina" - John Beasley, p; Ben Shepherd, b; Dan Schnelle , dr; *15* LA
    12:53 - *David Binney* - "
    14:47 - *Jon Gordon* - "
    16:47 - *Jaleel Shaw* - "Flipside" - Aaron Parks, p; Lage Lund, g; Joe Martin, b; Johnathan Blake, dr; *2008* - NYC
    tbc

  • @a1gold176
    @a1gold176 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    bernie, you're destroying the jazz click- bait game and im proud

  • @sandrocompagnon1037
    @sandrocompagnon1037 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great selection! If you make another compilation of great alto sax players you can put Loren Stillman into it :)

  • @alansenzaki4148
    @alansenzaki4148 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...frank strozier, lee konitz, sonny fortune, sonny redd, ... Up and coming zoe abadia, veronica leahy.

  • @tomizziomelli3060
    @tomizziomelli3060 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, i'm enjoying this game. My vote goes to David Binney. A good option is Jon Gordon. Thanks.

  • @michaeldean9338
    @michaeldean9338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hank Crawford...major influence on David Sanborn.

  • @dahalofreeek
    @dahalofreeek 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have dope content. I love to go on listening adventures.

  • @rasecbarravino3490
    @rasecbarravino3490 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Other great but unknown alto players include Baptiste Herbin and Giovanni Cutello

  • @HugoCoolDude
    @HugoCoolDude 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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    • @ricaard
      @ricaard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, let's get this straight: you want us to ignore Tina Brooks? *OKAY!!*

  • @colepeterson544
    @colepeterson544 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I would agree that Dick Oatts is definitely underrated, he is a level above the rest of these saxophonists, both in popularity and skill level.

  • @Yuppie.Mike.
    @Yuppie.Mike. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first guy is awesome

  • @juansausruiz1112
    @juansausruiz1112 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    check out Perico Sambeat

  • @DestinMillerMusic
    @DestinMillerMusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think dang near all alto players get over looked after the time of cannonball lol besides ppl like Kenny garret

    • @connorsobieri245
      @connorsobieri245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately almost all of jazz has been over looked after the time of Cannonball lol

  • @funnylittlehorn891
    @funnylittlehorn891 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John Handy and Eric Kloss were top alto players of the 60´s. Byron Allen maybe came closest to Ornette Coleman´s style.

  • @fernandosalazar1598
    @fernandosalazar1598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone has the link to David Binney full video?

  • @robinnicaise1978
    @robinnicaise1978 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok great players, what are you thinking about Miguel Zenon, Vincent Herring, Perico Sambeat, Olivier Zanot...?

  • @datanotions
    @datanotions 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John Handy, Steve Wilson, Oliver Nelson would have made my list

    • @connorsobieri245
      @connorsobieri245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There aren’t any really good Steven Wilson videos on TH-cam tho to show. I wish there was though.

  • @bobshields957
    @bobshields957 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    V Herring, A Blythe

  • @Yuppie.Mike.
    @Yuppie.Mike. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be helpful if from now on you keep the name of the musician up while you're watching. That way I can make a list I don't have time to watch it over and over again. Would if I had the time but I don't

  • @florianjaeger6733
    @florianjaeger6733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, Charles McPherson! That guy has the "economy of movement" principle down to a T!

  • @juanmartinduquero9643
    @juanmartinduquero9643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you transcribe Parker's sólo on cherokee

  • @Nuxunumo
    @Nuxunumo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike Lewis, though he's primarily a tenor player I guess.

  • @josephnagle8405
    @josephnagle8405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw McPherson live. He’s amazing!

  • @darrelfrancisco2941
    @darrelfrancisco2941 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    all are amazing players.

  • @SidLaw500
    @SidLaw500 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    David Binney captured me!

    • @dougiesherwin9591
      @dougiesherwin9591 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My condolences.

    • @SidLaw500
      @SidLaw500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dougiesherwin9591 You are so clever!

  • @PeekaPeep
    @PeekaPeep 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was expecting to see Sonny Criss and Art Pepper somewhere on that list, but alas they didn't make the cut. Oh well, at least both were mentioned in this thread by several others so that's all good. Might as well drop Frank Morgan's name in there for what it's worth...

    • @DanielNield
      @DanielNield 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m a big Art Pepper fan and those who know him would definitely say he’s not underrated. He’s regarded as one of the great alto sax players. There’s a big difference between being underrated and being very popular and well-known.

    • @PeekaPeep
      @PeekaPeep 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DanielNield That's just it, those who know Pepper ARE in the minority as it turns out (lol). There's also a big difference between being great and being "very popular and well-known". Thanks for sharing you opinion, though!
      🙂👋

  • @Lucas-jg4he
    @Lucas-jg4he 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    baptiste herbin

  • @tomwaters3029
    @tomwaters3029 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bernie Sanders, what about Nigel Hitchcock?

  • @bigeman25
    @bigeman25 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe the first 4 are underrated. Not in my book anyway. Thank you for these vids.

  • @SeanLeonDrumz
    @SeanLeonDrumz 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can you do 10 underrated drummers, and trumpet players?

    • @mr.mxyzptlk6233
      @mr.mxyzptlk6233 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NO!! SAX PLAYERS ONLY!!!!!

    • @mr.mxyzptlk6233
      @mr.mxyzptlk6233 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just kidding

    • @unkysonny
      @unkysonny 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tuba (tubists?), bongo and poker players!

    • @chrispotter3190
      @chrispotter3190 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      unkysonny what about league players

    • @armthealiens
      @armthealiens 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Underrated poker players - that's funny. Guys who lost but played really well!!!

  • @samondaatje3604
    @samondaatje3604 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Zane Musa?

  • @atantonio9674
    @atantonio9674 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    lets us not forget John Handy, Steve Wilson

  • @The_Ex_Boxing_Nerd
    @The_Ex_Boxing_Nerd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about Bobby Selvaggio?

  • @leopold23756
    @leopold23756 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Leo Slayter makes 11 underrated Alto Sax players

  • @kabalayouri419
    @kabalayouri419 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sonny criss i think is underrated !

  • @BlasJohnny
    @BlasJohnny 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Cool Thank You

  • @ghairraigh
    @ghairraigh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    NOT . . . BY . . . ME!
    (did they really have to flash a photo of Bird during Charles McPherson's solo on the video?)

  • @saxcover.
    @saxcover. 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Special thanks

  • @CanIUseSpaces
    @CanIUseSpaces 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do Tim Green or Miguel Zenon count as underrated?

  • @bestaff
    @bestaff 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    is that Javier Santiago on piano with Jaleel?

  • @cottinghamtennisclub9225
    @cottinghamtennisclub9225 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the White House should listen to this stuff that Bernie puts out it might cool their heads out!

  • @pierredosameiroartist
    @pierredosameiroartist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    French saxophonist Baptiste Herbin!!!!

  • @olech24europe
    @olech24europe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone have heard about Sonny Red?. He didn't record many albums. Great and underrated alto player.

    • @mr.mxyzptlk6233
      @mr.mxyzptlk6233 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. One of the first alto players I tried transcribing other than Parker

    • @jaleelshaw
      @jaleelshaw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really dig his playing as well.

  • @torindavies1176
    @torindavies1176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John O’Gallagher

  • @devilshark6694
    @devilshark6694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonny red, sonny simmons

    • @gleff3345
      @gleff3345 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sonny Fortune

  • @guntergerlach6516
    @guntergerlach6516 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Herrlich danke

  • @unkysonny
    @unkysonny 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Marion Brown

  • @johnbutler8235
    @johnbutler8235 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kenny Garrett and John Handy are a couple that come to mind that you left out, but maybe they're not underrated.

  • @MrAbomb234
    @MrAbomb234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shawn Thunder Wallace, seriously that guy is amazing

  • @victoza9232
    @victoza9232 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think "Underrated" in the title is a typo. It's probably supposed to be "10 Unrelated Alto Players You Should Know About."

  • @xasma
    @xasma 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    dick oatts is underrated? hes the sax prof. at fucking temple lmao.

    • @victoza9232
      @victoza9232 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      xasma Is Fucking Temple lmao a good school?

    • @xasma
      @xasma 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vic Toza one of the best

    • @victoza9232
      @victoza9232 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      xasma You do realize I was joking, right? There is no school named "Fucking Temple lmao."

    • @xasma
      @xasma 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vic Toza says YOU

    • @unkysonny
      @unkysonny 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      xasma Never heard of him, or the other four on the bottom of the list.

  • @benplaybass
    @benplaybass 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Josh Benko

  • @SELMER1947
    @SELMER1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One note by Johnny Hodges contains more music than 10000 notes by all those guys...

  • @PaddieFunk
    @PaddieFunk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Soweto Kinch?

    • @egyptianminor
      @egyptianminor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely a great underrated Alto player. The fact that he's British and lives on the other side of the pond probably doesn't help, though...

    • @eliottmorst
      @eliottmorst 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i forgot about him

  • @BryanCanonigo
    @BryanCanonigo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yah Jon Gordon!

  • @mmullan81
    @mmullan81 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Bernie, If you are on Facebook, I just started a group a few minutes ago called Mike Mullan, Friends and Jazz. Would love to have you and be able to post some of these amazing clips and anything else you want jazz related. Add anyone you want, it's a public group

  • @amenentuet
    @amenentuet 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hank Crawford and David "Fathead", Newman Both Played for RAY CHARLES no SLACKERS Played For RAY !!! Richie Cole is No Joke either !

  • @sammyvh11
    @sammyvh11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brad Leali

  • @marcroigcebrian
    @marcroigcebrian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    kenny garrett

  • @moranletouze1449
    @moranletouze1449 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Justin Robinson

  • @charlestrane
    @charlestrane 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the Charles McPherson choice is right on, but I don't think Gary Bartz or Hank Crawford are underrated by jazz heads.

  • @makarkashitsyn6832
    @makarkashitsyn6832 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check Nicholas Bello

  • @delll1979
    @delll1979 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Check Nick Biello out guyss, crazy guy ,heck of a player

  • @aaronkranzler4830
    @aaronkranzler4830 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man where's dave pietro in this!

  • @javierperez-gu5my
    @javierperez-gu5my 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buenisimo ¡

  • @joeshmooo
    @joeshmooo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to bernie Sanders?

  • @byronsigrano6849
    @byronsigrano6849 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about baritone players?

    • @mr.mxyzptlk6233
      @mr.mxyzptlk6233 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gary Smulyan

    • @Erschophone
      @Erschophone 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to learn about the father of the Baritone Saxophone - Duke's chauffeur…

    • @noahpettibon
      @noahpettibon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There aren't enough baritone players 😂they're all underrated!

    • @noahpettibon
      @noahpettibon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I *would* like to see BS channel do 10 "Great" Baritones but the *top* 10 lists bug me because of how hard to define the top is.

    • @gabrielpreston5129
      @gabrielpreston5129 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Serge Chaloff, Joe Temperley, Cecil Payne...I could go on and on

  • @unkysonny
    @unkysonny 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Bernie, how about doing some overrated lists, or a poll?

  • @chrisferrarimusic
    @chrisferrarimusic 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killin list, wish Frank Morgan was on it though!

  • @MegaRas73
    @MegaRas73 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally I think one of these is overrated, perhaps people like Paul Desmond and Art Pepper are underrated

    • @HoodedJeans
      @HoodedJeans 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      gary bartz?

    • @MegaRas73
      @MegaRas73 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      HoodedJeans yes 😊

    • @HoodedJeans
      @HoodedJeans 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rob Stutchbury yeah, i hear you

    • @JS-dt1tn
      @JS-dt1tn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No fucking way. Bet you've never heard him play with Woody Shaw. Bet you've never heard of Woody shaw actually...

    • @armthealiens
      @armthealiens 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shit, you guys are MAD.
      Gary Bartz is in my top ten of all time greatest alto players.
      Up there with Cannonball and Charlie Parker.

  • @ohlukkyman
    @ohlukkyman 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd rather spend my time listening to Charles McPherson or Phil Woods or Dudu Pukwana than waste another instant considering the premise of "under-rated" anythings. G'nite!

  • @bcarniaux
    @bcarniaux 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Thomas Chapin

  • @grantkoeller8911
    @grantkoeller8911 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so many you left off the list.....

  • @myousic934
    @myousic934 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gary Bartz's drummer is attacking ever chance he can get😅👎

  • @JoshuaDeanHealey
    @JoshuaDeanHealey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Half of them are not underated.. maybe my ears are just broken haha

  • @datanotions
    @datanotions 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    John Handy, Steve Wilson, Oliver Nelson would have made my list

  • @atantonio9674
    @atantonio9674 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    lets us not forget John Handy, Steve Wilson