Blacksmithing - A lesson on Forging Scrolling Tongs scrolling pliers
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- workingwithiron Presents, How to forge a pair of scrolling pliers/tongs,step by step no step skipped and attempted to add a spring clip to the reigns but Failed miserably so just ended up with a normal pair of scrolling pliers until i figure out how to do it with a good bit of spring steel.
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This video must be the most informative and detailed video I've seen yet on forging tongs. Thank you so much for taking the time to put together and share this. One of these days I'll make my own set 🙌
hi i love your work as you go through step by step and your work is wonderful an old Smith of 72 yrs
THANK YOU! for taking the time to thoroughly break down the steps of making tongs. I appreciated your explanation of the process. I never felt rushed or felt like I was missing something. The tongs were BEAUTIFUL!
Thank you Kent! Glad you enjoyed it.
I like how you convert the measurements from metric to standard. That is very informative for new and young blacksmiths. Very professional and instructive. Nice video and good advice. Thank you.
Thanks Brian, it is actually teaching me at the same time. In school it was CM, after school and in work was MM, college it was MM and INCHES, now i am trying to do both but much prefer MM if i had to choose.
what an awesome video. Love how you walk us through what you are doing at each step.
Thank you Nathan, I appreciate your comments while making the tongs. Very help full for some one just beginning
Thanks for all your videos. I am gearing up to start making a lot of the tools you are showing how to make. Can't wait to get started.
Really nice finish, good video, nicely explained, I like the fact you didn't edit out the spring, it's nice to learn from the errors also, well done.
Nathan, great video. I really appreciate your comments while you are working.
wow, great craftsmenship. I appreciate your faffing with it to make it perfect. thanks for making and sharing.
Nice... your commentary is most helpful. Description, tips, & suggestions are really easy to follow.
Thanks Nathan another great video.
Beautiful work man, thanks for sharing I'm learning a lot
Appreciate your descriptions of the relative heats for different processes like drawing, planishing etc. This has to be one of the most thorough descriptions I've watched as a running commentary especially to do with hand forming tongs. Have hot formed metal for a long time now but can always learn more......why I watch those who provide detail without running on at the mouth. Liked of course and thanks.
Great video! Great to see a full, in depth process. I also really appreciate you showing the spring test "failure". Many times more can be learned from the Misses than the Hits. Thanks for posting and I look forward to more to come.
Thank you Kevin, thats great feedback. Im busy at the mo but when i get chance to do some filming i will get a few more vids done and uploaded.
Well done ! I wanted to reach into the monitor a couple times to take over the tongs, but there was this piece of glass in the way. Big thumbs up !
Great vid mate! Cheers! Love it with the talk overs, you give so many top tips and nuggets of wisdom! Cheers man!
A pair of tongs for the generations, well done and I loved watching this video.
They certainly are, hopefully many generations, if not they know how to make them now :) Thanks for the kind words!
Thanks so much for making these videos! I'm in the process of refurbishing some blacksmithing equipment I inherited from my father's estate...it's been in my family for generations, belonging to my great-grandfather. It's in pretty rough shape, and missing some parts, but I think I can get it up and running fairly easily. I really enjoy your videos on making the tooling, as my first projects are going to be making much of what I need.
Your tutorial on finishing the boss [~18:30 on] was excellent; by far the best explanation of detailing the structure of the hinge/boss that I'll take to the anvil to make these scrolling tongs. I considered them well done @ the point your started the offset of the reins. Thank you!
Thanks mate. Tremendous help for us beginners. Great skills. Appreciate the detail.
One of the best tong making vids I have seen, and I have seen many. The devils in the details with tongs I believe and thats where most tutorials lack. First time I ever seen that chalk trick and that is keen!
+sdcb27 Thank you, im with you there, they are a devil to make, but satisfying when they are finished. Glad i can teach a new trick for you, first time i seen it, i was surprised id not learned that before, as it is incredibly helpful for blind holes. Cheers for watching my friend
Been doing this 2 years since retiring.... best instructor level vids I have seen yet subbed and thumbed
thats great to hear, thank you. hope i can teach at least one new thing each vid. it may be quiet around here for a month or 2 but after next weekend im going full time content creation so will be doing a lot more of this soon. thanks for coming along for the journey!
Beautiful tongs and very well explained.
When I first noticed the length of the video I didn't think I would watch the whole thing. However, the further along in the video I got the more I wanted to see the rest. Your video has to be one of the better one I've seen with very good details on what you were doing throughout. I've tagged this as a watch later so I can return to it if needed. I'm only in the process of setting up my forge, and anvil. Haven't taken a swing at any hot metal yet but it's not far off. Thanks again and you certainly have a new viewer! Keep up the awsome videos.
WOW RC thats so great to hear! Hopefully its not long now until you are hitting the hot stuff! Please let me know how you get on.
Will be doing a few more videos soon, but struggling to find the time at the mo. Stay tuned though as im just getting started
love the way you can make this tongs! and nice edit to , not cutting out the mistakes ! huge thumbs up !
+Bert Mintiens Thanks a lot Bert, Huge thumbs up to you for an awesome comment. Glad i can help out!
Cheers!
Im just getting started and there is a wealth of knowledge that you guys are (thank you thank you!) passing on. It would be nice for me if you through in a table of contents in the description with videos times like on that hour long lewis knives build out. I gotta keep coming back to the long videos to grab one piece of info and its difficult to find that spot in a long video. When reading its so much easier to find info, i beeilieve its beause we can see where the info might be and visualize how the info is organized. Anyhow. Great video. Thank you Kindly!!
And its cool to see this communitybeing excited to share knowledge. I rock on everybody!
+Full Sun Noted! i shall get onto that this week sometime. ive not seen that video you talk about but will have a look later and see what you mean. Very good idea! Thank you!
Very tidy mate. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the video 🍺
Great job! Loved the lesson!
Awesome video, I enjoyed the instructions, and appreciated the honesty throughout the video, well done, subscribed
This was so good of a video I had to watch it twice. I used a coil spring. Not in compression but using the ends so the coil would twist.
Excellent tut Nathan, I'm going to try making a pair of these myself using your vid. I will certainly be wanting to view more of them in the future.
This is the absolute best tong making video on TH-cam! Thanks for this!
You are too kind! Thank you!
Excellent work, love it and the explanation through it was great, learnt a lot here.
Well done. Good clear instructions, great photography and a good instruction pace.
+Bill Schultz Thanks a lot Bill, Great feedback!
excellent work there nathan thanks for showing us ,i must have a go at this .Ant from Wales.
Sir, Excellent presentation, stellar.
Great vid! Finishing up mine today. Thx for taking the time!
This is an awesome, very informative video. Clearly explained steps and good camera shots of work being done allow viewers to follow along with each step. Great job on the vid and the tongs! They are superb. Thanks for posting, keep them coming! Cheers from Canada
Thank you Joe!
Picked up so many tips. Thank You for doing this!
really liked the running commentary, helped to put things into context, thanks, keep up the good work.
Thanks a lot Kiksforge!
As I watched this, I kept thinking that this work can't be as easy as you make it look.
If I'm honest, I was a bit relieved to see even a skilled person have some trouble along the way.
Thanks for this, and please keep making more.
Every day is a day for learning!!
Love this Nathan, been following your video's, just made a hot cut chisel today following your technique, really like it, thanks mate for all the great info and instruction.
Talent! Really good video. Thanks🤘
I did over thin my first tongs, So I check the thickness better
Thanks again
It's a common thing with making tongs, but we learn which is what I love about the craft... Always improving one heat at a time
nice pair of scroll tongs. very in depth narrative. thanks for the vid.
You are welcome, Thank you!
cool video i like your attention to detail when you are working the steel keep up the good work
+Brendan Davey Thank you i will keep them going for everyone!
Have not seen the chalk trick before, very simple and clever!
Last year I too learn the golf ball handle, Working for the second year.
Really like seeing your file and clean up work, Also the whole video
Thank you Sir for teaching me how to do it
Thanks a lot! Means a lot that I can show something new.
I know this video is a little older, but I loved it! Great work! Watching more. Learning the trade.
Great video! I use golf balls for file handles too. Thank you!
Looks great! I look forward to seeing you make some scrolls with them.
+Lord Skitch When i get the new forge built i will do some vids on proper scrolls the traditional way, need to make another set first though. I have a scrolling video up but thats just using a hammer and anvil, which are a lot easier than using tongs or pliers. Stay tuned and i will note down the idea and put it on the list of things to film.
Cheers dude!
Well explained, my new year challenge. Thanks again an Healthy Happy 2024
Nice job!! Thanks for the video.
Awesome vid, thanks!
So often these types of vids go for about 15 minutes, and cut so much out.
I was impressed that yours was a 'warts and all' video covering everything, even what went a little sideways.
My son really wants to do blacksmithing, so we watched this together and he really enjoyed it too.. :)
Thats awesome you both sat down to watch it, Hope he didnt get too bored with how long it is. Its a great craft to learn and a very rewarding one at that! Maybe you can both learn it together?
Great vid mate. Good detail and description . Really enjoyed it. 👍
They look great!
If you enjoy these vids, gis a Thumbs up, If you dont enjoy this style of vid, gis a thumbs down, i need Your Feedback to make these vids better, cheers!
I for one really like the new style! Only small criticism I have is that your sit-down intros and exits are very quiet compared to the rest of the video, which means I have to turn it way up to hear, then get blasted out when the first hammer blows fall. Perhaps a clip on microphone would help during those scenes? Other than that, love the new style! I hope you continue with it! Cheers!
Nice video, though you should lower the volume of the hammering scene in post.
I need to work on that, the mic is the reason, as it automatically records louder on the forging as it blocks out the roar of the gas forge so when thats not on, it lowers the recording level. Thanks for pointing that out to me. Next one wont have that issue.
Cheers!
The reason i didnt lower it in editing is i have a lot of mature audiences that are hard of hearing so i give the option of turning down the volume rather than having it too quiet and not being loud enough for those guys to hear it properly.
***** Thats reasonable, for the talking parts, but I can't imagine anyone will really miss the loud banging much. Kudos for being considerate though.
Thank you for this video you take you time to show us what to do
You are welcome Shaun!
very nicely done , thanks for the how to.
1.this is the first long video that gave us tips and information all along the way.
2.u might consider giving us an a bullet point time index for each step in the text explanation
like creamhorses showed that finishing the boss started at 18:30. if we could click that number and go to the step we need more help to do, i feel that your long videos would also be short videos that generate more views. Excellent video as is --just thinking of what I'd like. .
3. As far as the spring goes, try putting the u at the bottom, about half way of the 100mm below the boss. make max distance between the top and bottom reins at that 50 mm point to allow the u to be larger.
3a maybe a two hacksaw blade u,
or
3b two blades, one collared at 0mm and 100mm on each rein so that the two arches meet at the 50 mm point . that puts only half as much compression on each blade arch and allows you to set how far apart the nibs are at rest
4. were you going to collar the spring onto the reins? that might make replacing broken springs possible I'd use a short -10 mm --cross section of 13mm inside diameter steel tubing , slide it down the reins and peen it tight .
Love the spring
Very nice set of tongs. I enjoyed your video thanks for sharing your talent.
You are welcome Chuck!
Great video. Making a pair this week
Keep them coming Nathan...your slacking mate...more top quality educational videos required ASAP :-)
Hahaha i am, I am indeed!! Hope all is well with you mate.
All is good thanks, and hope with you also. Looking forward to your next great video...
Great video... It's nice to see someone else be self critical and admit when things aren't going smoothly.
+sean.the.shoer There will be plenty more of that im sure, Thank you for letting me know. Just thinking out loud, i cut the swearing parts just incase the younguns are watching. Thanks again Sean
+workingwithiron f#ck the naysayers if they can't handle a little color in the dialogue. I look forward to more stuff!
Useful stuff. subscribed. please make more. Your instructions are good.
Awesome work I do benefit from these videos thank you so much
After 2 years, those tongs are still beautiful.
thank you. cleaner work then other tong vids
thanks Nathan for adding that you're using low carbon steel. I sometime get confused about carbon content and or whether the piece should or should not be hardened...nice that you mentioned it.
+Brady McPhail With tongs, id always use mild steel or titanium as i quench them so often and with anything higher in carbon they would break and be no use to me so always go with a quenchable steel type, or titanium as they just dont move and dont hold the heat very long.
Nice tidy pair of scrolling tongs!
+gnewsch Thanks again my friend
''This week 'e'll mostly be bashin hot metal wiv a 'ammer",
Fab video 👍👍
After 1 year, reviewing this video lesson, I learned even more. I'll try to repeat this tongs, let's see what happens...
Love it. Thank you.
Thanks for the tip to use chalk to mark the location of the second rivet hole!
Wery educationally video. Wery good skills and the tong turned up wery nice. Beautifull work indeed. Vidar from Norway
Thank you Vidar from Norway, lovely country!
My grandfather was a blacksmith. He also have made these by himself. Good work
Thats awesome, are you going to carry on the tradition?
+workingwithiron I'm trying. Since last winter i've made 4 full tang knives with no power tools, just some sand paper , files and metal saw. If i get more skills i will try to forge a knife or some other tool from old leaf spring. I like that kind of work but i don't have much time ( family and Job ). I'm doing my best. Greetings from Poland
Thank you. Inspirational
Thanks for the great vids, man! Inspired me to do some light forging for the first time to make my own wedding band.
No worries, and thank you! How did you get on, did you finish the wedding band?
I did! Turned out better than I expected for a first try. Started with some .156in (4mm) flat bar Damasteel, rounded it off and put a hole in the center and thickened it up to just over 5mm on the anvil. Then milled it down to size before a finish grind/polish with a Dremel and dipping in acid to etch.
I did end up cracking it, but was able to polish it up so you don't even notice. Turns out stainless is some tough stuff to work with! I used a little paint can forge with propane heat, so my guess is I was not able to get it hot enough to ease up some of the cold working. Really, really enjoyed working over an anvil though... more projects are certainly to follow.
Love your work mate nice clean finish. You make it look easy😊
+Greg Smith Cheers Mate, it all comes down to practice is all.
Nice work most helpful
Hey. Keep these vids coming. I'm just starting out and I'm a Devon boy. Love the details and your description of what you are thinking and doing. Excellent.
Thanks a lot Rob, What part of Devon you from?
+workingwithiron Torquay. Got my own little fabrication company.
Really excellent. Keep it going. I am not a neophyte at this business.
Thank you!
Nice job well explained
Excelente video , saludos cordiales de Bs. As. Argentina !!!
Very nicely done. Thankyou
Cheers Stan!
Hi Nathan, just thought on the spring for these. quite often on other tools I've seen, they only fix the spring on one handle, so the other side kinda slides to relieve some of the strain on the spring.
Very informative thank you
Now a few Blacksmit told me they find the balls on the rains are a plus.
Shue you know it
Thanks they are ready nice
I agree, in the new year I will be making a lot more tongs so will be trying a few different styles, will have to do a few with balls on the end for sure!
great video man. currently I am taking time from forging to build my anvil
Great, very well done
+steve “Smokey” thompson Cheers Smokey!
Thank You for this video! Nice!
+Сергій Ливадний Thank you for enjoying it. hope you learned something from watching!
Amazing work , i thought they were perfect halfway through
love how you have a guitar in your workshop XD
Thank you for showing up in my recommended list because i really needed a set of tong all i have been using is a pair of channel locks i bought at a flea market for $3 and so i am going to try making a set of flatbit and a modified set of the flatbits and another set of bolt tongs kinda like u have used when making the hot cut hardie tool any ways i have only been forging for a year now and all i have been doing is rail road spike knifes i got the coal forge off of a good friend and the anvil off of another friend for $50 anyways thanks again for this video because i really needed some tongs.
After you put on chalk & hit w/a center punch you check to see if it is in the right spot. How can you tell where the punch is? It's covered up by the 1 that has a hole. You checked it 2 times & made an adjustment both times, I don't understand how you can tell if it needs to be moved. Thank You for your time & your video's. I'm building a coal forge & eager to hit the hot stuff in about a week, GOD willing. Your video's are well made, you do a great job of explaining how & why. I'm learning a lot from you & like many others I also appreciate what you've created.
Look through the hole and you can see the dot. If it's not in the centre you can adjust it. It's why I punch one at a time rather than both as I always have a point of reference i.e the hole. Does that make sense?
Well done !
Cheers Brad!
Loved it! The whole thing.
Thanks Dave! Not too long for you?
i hate the ten minute limit youtube wants u to keep. I like the content
Looking forward to seeing it , take care of that hand, cheers.
Great idea keep wori g on spring 👍