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You fool she's _enlightening_ them of the truth. Their "history" was installed into their culture by the White Devil, obviously. She should be suing all of Egypt for "calling her out"
Wokism perpetuates the bigotry of low expectations and especially talks down to groups other than white with a paternalistic attitude because they don't see them as people.
@@jaxsazerac4904 to be fair, thats the majority of the history we experience. Cleopatra was in fact bi-racial and she had a "black" parent but she had fair-skin and was macedonian which is VASTLY different than what people consider white.
Don't be silly to side with these barbarians. Had they not got any push back from us they would still be portraying ancient Nile valley culture as yellow haired Nordics. They only see you as a mongrel.
Glad to get appreciation for this! Fiction is one thing, but history is quite another.. ancient Egyptians were NOT black, no matter how much some folks try to make it so. The political madness gripping some of the US right now is just really crazy right now.
@@rbarnes4076 Not black in the modern sense but definitely not white no matter how much Eurocentrism they feed people. Hollywood seemed to care about the whites being portrayed as Egyptians, also the Nubians were a dynasty of Egypt that were for all tense and purposes black. There is over 200 pyramids in in the sub Saharan after all, and the Sudanese are the closest thing to maintaining the culture of Egyptians. Other dynasties as wells shared distinct haplogroups of the African diaspora as well…
Also Greeks.. she states Seleucid were “west Asians” 😂 Hmm… wasn’t he 1 of the 4 Greek generals of Alexandros who took over some of his empire after his death, same as Ptolemy? 😅 so Greeks marrying other Greeks result to black Cleopatra. Apparently Greek is the new black 😅
I am an African Nubian descendant and the Egyptians of the past had black skins. Unlike the modern day Egyptians we see today large majority are not native to the land. They came from Asia-Middle East. Having Egyptians as dark-skins would have been more appropriate, Netflix isn't practically wrong. However, the current Egyptians of today are neither the true description of medieval Egyptians.
@@VistaGlobe you sound just as ignorant the as people who claims to be Egyptian! You helping them to write your dumba... out of your own history fool! You damn well these Asians is not Egyptian no way form or fashion! Can you find any rice fields in dry Egypt?
Its mental illness when you can clearly that the people was dark complexion and its all on the walls in the damn pyramids and then you have a Caucasian looking guy is pissed because he doesn't look nothing like what in those pyramids and statues and people can't recognize him as a Egyptian! We are millions of years old which that makes us the oldest race on this planet They went far as shooting the noses and desecrating the monuments just to try the real identities, AND the bullsht didn't work because the truth can not and will not be hidden!
The issue is they want cultural appropriation to only apply to black people’s culture. You can’t gaslight everyone else’s skin color and culture and say it doesn’t matter. It matters
It's a fiction movie, she did look goofy, and if they put a disclaimer that this documentary was fake no one would be upset. These people are actually claiming both macedonians and Egyptians are.l black.
For me it's incredibly insulting that they black wash other's history instead of coming up with ours. All these black washing hypocrites are basically saying that our own black history is cool enough, downplaying it.
@@fieldmojo5304 Herodotus (You know, who white folks call the father of history) had no problem calling them such. Egyptians were black. He saw Egyptians as having black skin and woolly hair (Herodotus, 2.104) Well what do you have, besides you white and you say so?
@@EndymionTv it’s been going the other way . But I understand why it upsets you. You spend all your time complaining about blacks people in media because you aren’t used to it. Wish I could feed the same but for years and years black people didn’t whine about nothing but white actors in movies.
@@P8nplays as an African man, I feel sorry for you. You don't have the skill or the guts to create your own characters, so you settle for sloppy seconds from white liberal Democrats who pity your stupidity. You're weak.
I think these producers aren't considering the Egyptians as real people. They literally use an entire country like its a hollywood prop, cause Cleopatra was such a badass boss lady.
Cloepatria was a tramp who used her VJ to try to save her empire which fell anyway. And she killed herself. She was trash. I never understood why people were fascinated by a woman who failed in job and had to sleep with men to try to keep it.
Unfortunately Netflix et. al. treats this ‘documentary’ as a money making and political machine rather than trying to make something historically accurate. Unfortunately for them, it backfired badly. I hope this is a lesson to all these corporates. Respect other countries and cultures. Just a side note - scary that this lady is a so called Professor. Academia has always been about research, finding facts and substantiating facts. Not my mother said, imagine writing that in your thesis.
A persian guy here 👋🏻 Didn't know the director was a fellow Iranian and given the fact how much our history is connected with of Egypt and other countries around us, it is baffling how less she knows about the History. It's ironic how most people here want other nations to distinct Persians and Arabs (which is true), but fail to care about the truth about the race of other people. Truly something for the whole humankind to remember by...
It feels like she was just paid to helm a black Cleopatra movie and is just doing her damnedest to protect her bread, even if she knows she's wrong at all levels.
As an Egyptian, I thank you for defending history. We in Egypt have nothing to be proud of other than our history. For us it is everything. And here he is now stealing from our hands.It's a hard feeling .But we will defend our history forever
Imagine being told you're people know less about someone from your culture than someone who looked at a Wikipedia article for .5 seconds (I can't relate, I'm an American)
The woman is ill. She holds a massive grudge that probably isn't even hers at all! This is what people who actively look for drama are like; they are constantly judging and condemning everything that moves.... They champion causes that aren't personally related to them, in an effort to leave a good impression and gain fame, fortune, or worse.
When did truth turn to drama smfh... Being stuck in a false paradigm that they shove in your lives, now that's drama. Do your research, and break.... Or remain a dum dum and just believe everthing you've been shoved to believe since you were born.
As a Greek, I'm very satisfied that people recognize that Netflix once again tries to change history, now with Cleopatra who was Greek, white and not black!
Most people don't even realize that Cleopatra the 7th was Greek and not Egyptian... Based on that ignorance, many of them proceed with trying to prove Ancient Egyptians were black while modern Egyptians are Arabs, to justify the moronic notion that Cleopatra being Egyptian, she should as well be black...
@@skoy21 Not arguing. I’m pointing out the obvious. If she’s “Greek” then that means she’s not really an “Egyptian.” A Greek person born & raised in China is still ethnically Greek. So why would it be any different when speaking about Egypt
Here’s my simple question: If it really mattered to the director so much to “get it right”, then why didn’t she hire an Egyptian actress to play Cleopatra? Really makes you think.
She think she is smarter than all the real historians that actually research about Cleopatra because she find a Wikipedia page about Cleopatra and called it a research.
@@egilskallagrimsson2941 and egypt was still black or i guess the invasion from persians didnt happen. I guess those mixed pple called magrebis love living on lies
watched a video made by an egyptian woman; she mentioned the hair styles and how they were a direct insult to Cleopatra who cared for her hair greatly.
Exactly, the whole point of history is just that. Events of the past! It doesn't need to be interpreted for a modern audience. It is historic and part of the past! It is history! It cannot be rewritten
As an Egyptian I LOVE how “Woke” Americans are trying to educate us on our history on being Egyptian on being African 😂😂 Dude the entitlement is unreal ..
To be fair to Northern Europeans the rest of the world with few exceptions are just different variations of being Negro; Egypt and Arabia included. Black Americans who have long been under the tutelage of Northern Europeans are picking up the idea and running with it.
@@seanmac2257 no it is not it summarize ideas of these people , pedophilia having problems with reality with science biology radical feminism lgbtqa whatever guilt victim mentality and they want to impose these idea onto you
Good luck with that. White people have been white washing history for the past thousand years or so. You all believe that Jesus was white. I have seen you folk portray Nubians as white.
I find Elizabeth Taylor’s playing Cleopatra much more palatable. It was a time for American Hollywood and while they were not did not choose actors of the exact or similar ethnicities, these actors at the time were on contract with studios. Taylor was a true power and beauty of her time. Today we have countless opportunities to get closer to get actors from the places they depict these cultural stories from. It is beautiful. We have actual busts and painting of Cleopatra done during her lifetime. Unless she was using Greek face, I am pretty sure she was Greek….
The left in a nutshell. It's okay when they festroy an entire country's history but the moment a tiny inconvenience occurs in their perception they start whining.
It like being parents (audience) trying to tell their kids (Hollywood) that what they're doing is wrong but they don't wanna take any advice because of how whiny and spoiled they are.
@@lesigh1749I’m Egyptian and I have a question here in Egypt we aren’t dark skinned more like caramel but we are born in an African country so we are African (definitely more than those LA and Hollywood elites )so I have to ask what’s the situation with the N-word
This reminds me of the backlash against Rami Malek being cast as Ankhmenrah in the "Night at the Museum" movies, saying he was 'too light skinned to pass as an Egyptian'...despite the fact he IS Egyptian ethnically.
they're seriously asking what's wrong with black Cleopatra but when a character is played by an actor who doesn't have same race or ethnicity, they're fuming. these people are just insane.
People like her need to realize that if you double down along with insult and blame the audience for your shows ratings it will just cause more backlash and less viewers
Hundreds of years of archaeological excavations , tons of artifacts , millions of people who have given their whole lives to this topic , billions of printed publications and books of inceclopedias , museums Netflix BUT YES, I have to ignore it all because grandma told her granddaughter that Cleopatra is BLACK
Produced by people with an agenda. Thieves, usurpers, desecrators... smh, Excuse me if i have little to no faith in their honesty or accurate depictions. @@dapooramericanhomesteadfar7192
Like, there IS something to be said for recognizing Egypt is one of the far Northern extensions of Africa and has influenced it and been influenced by it. But that's way different from saying Cleopatra or most Ancient Egyptians were Black. That's manifestly untrue.
The arrogance in that statement, Egyptians by definition are and see themselves as African. It's just not the completely deluded, uneducated US view of what Africa is supposed to be according to them. They have literally zero clue how vast and diverse that continent is.
They're Egyptians. Their civilization stands as among the oldest if not the oldest in recorded history. They formed the first unified nation state. The concept of kingship was quintessentially Egyptian. Among the early civilization of the ancient world, only Egypt embraced this particular mode of rule from the very beginning of its history. They built the oldest and only remaining seven wonders of the world; the Pyramids of Giza. They are the only civilization in history to come back from total disintegration and collapse twice. They know their own history and who they are and what they are. They don't need anyone, least of all some ignorant Afrocentric Americans with no sense of history, to tell them how they should see themselves.
Jada: "We don't often get to hear stories about black queens..." Also Jada: makes a documentary about a white woman depicted by a black actress. I wonder what other black queens were planned for inclusion in future episodes... Elizabeth I? Catherine the Great? Empress Wu? Rani Durgavati?
God forbid she tells us stories about actual powerful black women. That would require her to learn about Sub-Saharan African history which she obviously doesn't know. If black Americans want to find powerful historical figures that look like them they aren't going to find many of them in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. That's just the way it is and doing crap like this isn't helping.
If given the knowledge they will try to make Jhansi ki Rani black🤦♀️🤦♀️ For someone wondering, Jhansi ki Rani was a freedom fighter who lost her husband. So, inorder to protect her kingdom and her heir's right from the British, she went in war while carrying her infant. They both sadly died in battle but it gave India a hope that Britishers can be fought against.
I'm curious, are ppl in Asia, Asians? They have biological similarities? Europeans share non melanin in general? But Egyptians somehow went thousands of years in Africa but aren't melanated(black)? I think Egyptians drank the Kool aid. Smh
I'd like to point out that as an African I have been working on a story about an actual black Queen. The one who fought off the Romans and won decisively. She was a General and won many battles. We do not have to blackwash history to find our strong women. These people are lazy.
Also, these American Woke producers ONLY idea of African, is that of a black "African American" culture that literally did not exist 300 years ago. These are Africans by way of America.
Hollywood would do a lot better if they had you in charge of the story writing. If anything, I see this crap they’re pushing in Hollywood to be embarrasing for black people. After all, why would any black person want to be seen as a carbon copy of a white man/woman’s success? Really! Is this the best they can do?
Would love to hear more. I've read about Roman successes, not about their defeats. (When they were defeated, they just got more troops & then won.) Who was it that defeated Rome in ancient times? Ta
She wasn’t a puppet ruler installed by Alexander, she was the Scion of a Greek Dynasty that had begun after Alexander the Great’s death; you could maybe stretch and say she was a puppet installed by Caesar, but she manipulated him as mush as he did her
Most Egyptians are Egyptians by nationality only. It seems that none of the average Egyptians want to acknowledge the fact that starting with mameluke sultanate all the way up to the ottoman empire there was a mass migration of Turks from central Asia. All while this was happening the indigenous stock and the Macedonian stock was pushed further into East Africa. The indigenous stock of Ancient Egypt are the nilotic peoples and while the macedonians were caucasian the greeks, whom they aligned themselves with, had an appearance similar to gujarati people and gypsys with medium to dark amount of melanin in their skin. I'm not making this point to spread hatred. I'm trying to say that more than likely this depiction of Cleopatras appearance is a lot closer than previous depictions.
@@jmlaw8888 it is karma hitting you back. But is it modern day colonialism. All it seems to me like desperate west immigrating lot's of people to combat their reducing birthrates and population.
Also, it would be funny as hell to see a white female, Genghis Khan, as long as it's not marketed as historical . Though even that would be funny as hell to see.
@@codyasterix7421 they don't wanna hear that, sadly. for some odd reason, it's so difficult to believe that black people were ruling in Egypt. they'll accept that all civilization began in Egypt, but if it isn't about us being in huts and having bones through our noses (which there's nothing wrong with) they don't want to hear it. they already have a preconceived notion of what we were and will not budge when it comes no matter how much proof they are given. it's a lose-lose, and you can't even call it for what it is w/o backlash
As an Egyptian, thank you. This perfectly summarized our frustration. Unsubscribed from Netflix as I do not want to consume their woke agenda as you said so well!
@@codyasterix7421 You're a retard, Egyptians are decedent of people of the levant, they are not Arabs and no one and I mean no one claims the pharaohs to be Muslim, Islam is a religion.
she's lying, There are two kinds of leftist liars. it's why they are who they are. only a liar can live thinking everything is everyone else's fault. and honest person recognizes the shadow lurking within, and thusly practices a little discipline and humility in their life. Had they any, they'd passionately build something worth building for the future, not fixate and cry about the past. There are idiot liars, who tell lies and justify them with "good intentions" And then there are the evil liars, who have knowingly sold out their fellows to keep a seat at the Elite's table
@@EndymionTv No $hit! They'll be at the forefront of trying to ban books based on fallacy and then attempt to rewrite the same to fit their own corrupt narrative. Social engineering at its finest. Anton LaVey prohibited his children from watching tv...very telling.
When Cleopatra jumped on that burning police car and screamed "DEFUND THE POLICE" with that St George of Fentanyl shirt on, it brought me to tears. Best picture Oscar!
@@Kommiekiller bruh I had to play Julius Caesar in every play anytime in school because my name was Julius 🤦 I deadass got tired of getting stabbed in the back at the end every time man
The comic book analogy you mentioned is also important, lets see a character who’s originally always been black gets race swapped, you’ll have a lot of people complain fictional or not
I was annoyed at first, but now I’m kind of concerned. The director is definitely delusional. At some point she was brainwashed as a child, and I feel sorry for her.
The Egyptians weren’t black but you must understand, these people are crazy. I once heard a black guy say the original Samurai were black. Just like with the trans movement, these people are delusional and expect everyone to go along with the delusion. That being said, if the Egyptians were black that means they enslaved my people, the Jews, for 5,000 years. I want reparations from blk Egyptians.
As a Persian born in Iran I'm sorry on behalf of her , Dear Egyptian people please forgive her stupidity and ignorance and keep fighting for your rich history also ENDYMIONtv huge thank you for this great video never be scared to show the truth
They're doing the same shit to us, btw. Not only are they trying to claim the Elamites (who were dark skinned, but indigenous to modern day Khuzestan with zero relation to africans) but the Achaemenids as well, because apparently only blacks are allowed to have curled hair!
If I were Persian I would have disowned her. She has converted completely to the Woke cult (which is much more an American heritage than anything close to Persian) . The only reason why she mentions her Persian heritage is because she can exploit it for selfish reasons, to gain political power over others. It gives her "street cred" with her peers.
Western entertainment industry: You are racist, homophobic, bigoted, etc. If you don't like our modern takes & change in history Meanwhile in Japan: So how about another Isekai? Or another romance anime? Modern politics? Racism? LGBTQ community? Nah bro. We just make stuff for fun. Now, how about that new season of Demon Slayer?
@@neko7606 Imagine the amount of madness and the meltdown people from the west would have if there was an anime that had a female lesbian as a villain. And she wasn't redeemed. I wouldn't be surprised if such characters already exist in their boundaries, since Japan is all about creative freedom & not letting a small minority of people dictate what they can & can't create.
@@neko7606 facts japan and some european nation embace the lgbt people during 20th century and did not mske it a big issue like the right and some reglius nutjobs sorry people the people who are creatreing more trouble are them not the left
@@neko7606indeed true, is the never focus and even when is the focus they got wholes demographics centered on that, they don't shove it down Your throat.
So she admits this was a political act. She doesn’t want her work speak for itself. She has to make her name through the easiest, cheapest, low effort option available to Hollywood - casting controversy.
As soon as she was talking about fucking melanin I knew that was a noi talking point. The noi if you have no melanin you have no soul . To noi this can range from white/Jewish people to everyone who isn’t specifically sub Saharan African.
As an Iranian myself, I can't believe this woman's words. our directors and actors inside the country are either getting arrested or dealing with heavy censorship and this is how she uses her opportunities as a director internationally?! Shame
Did you feel a certain way when Jake Gyllenhaal played the star of "Prince of Persia"? Seeing that he looks nothing like the very dark brown Persian archers on wall of persopolis. I guess if you are really descent from the Parthians and/or the multitude of pale Turkic Scythian folk that came off the steppes and not really Persian it wouldn't matter to you. Thats why you changed name to Iran, right?
@@18breaths66 Persians are not and were not VERY dark/brown just like Egyptian we are the people of middle east we are not black, we are not white, the painting on persepolis walls are colourless unlike Egypt's painting, considering the fact that persepolis was burnt, and this is not even about Persians It's about Cleopatra who was a Greek/Macedonian queen and she was definitely white and this was supposed to be a documentary not a unreal made up fantasy like Prince of Persia, I don't understand why you mixing these two
@18 Breaths not all persians (or as we call ourselves over a centry now "Iranians") are dark, mostly are Caucasian. we do have dark and brown colored skin people, they are in the south of the country.
@@davidcook680 I mean the Ehtiopians do have a rich history, so do the sudanese. but not every african nation has a rich history that can be traced back millenia...
I visited a fortune teller and was told that I was related to George Washington and that George Washington was black. Something inside me told me that I was special and that I was taught wrong in school about George Washington.
I love how the Director doesn't understand that Elizabeth Taylor's Cleopatra was portrayed as a "movie" not a pseudo "realistic" documentary. And from my research, people weren't happy with Elizabeth's portrayal of Cleopatra either. That movie almost bombed an entire movie studio from the inflated budget and no one going to see it back in that day.
@@bonbon-gl8qo That movie was actually banned in Egypt when it got out, it was only lifted a few decades later because Egyptian was really mad at that times but they understand because at that time they dont really have any other brown actresses in Hollywood. Egyptian was mad not because she;s white but because she was not Greek, they should have at least find someone with Greek ancestry to portray her, but the again in the 50's even the Greek were marginalized in the US and most Anglo American consider the Greek as fake whites and called them derogatory names.
@@wewenang5167 thanks for letting me know that history. I didn’t know. I’m just taken back by the anger around this documentary. Cleopatra has been portrayed as a Greek white woman throughout our time, but during her lifetime the Greeks didn’t see her as being Greek. Her linage from a hundred year prior was from Ptolemy of course, but she clearly had Egyptian blood in her. To think that No Egyptian involved or part of her ancestry is crazy. No mater if she was a light or darker skinned woman. I’m so taken back by the hate. If this actor was half Greek yet still a mixed black woman would their still be so much anger? What takes me out is that I don’t see any black Egyptians being part of these conversations. They all seem to be Arab Egyptians who see to be mad at the fact that a mixed black woman is playing Cleopatra. How about when she was made to be white maybe they were actually whitewashing because she was probably more ethnically an Egyptian than she was Greek? & even though they may have banned the movie Elizabeth still received live in Egypt.
@@bonbon-gl8qo we're saying egyptians are not all dark-skinned. There are dark skinned Egyptians and there are light skinned Egyptians. The idea that everyone in Africa is black is ridiculous, Africa is the second largest continent. It's like saying everyone in asia looks like the chinese. Russians originally looked chinese, indians looked chinese, persians looked chinese. Now I sound insane right
Africa History: Full of stories waitin' to be told Hollywood: Let's race swap Cleopatra and rewrite history so that we can portray the Dahomey as underdogs
The Dahomey were extremely violent slavers who were forced to give up slavery by the British. They were depicted as anti-slavery freedom fighters fighting victoriously against British slavers. Also the "fierce woman warrior troops" were extremely cruel to the average people. They were also crappy warriors and were wiped out by a handful of British soldiers.
“It’s not important what color Cleopatra was so we’re changing it, because it’s important that she’s black.” What interesting logic. Also, “Egyptians need to start seeing themselves as black and stop perpetuating white supremacy.” So, so much wrong with this.
If people rewrite history to make it diversity and inclusion, you’re not only insulting children’s intelligence but insulting survivors, world war heroes, historical figures and people who live in those countries
Also just erasing history and culture. Like you don’t make a film set in Asia, about Asian history and culture and have an all white cast. Egypt has a long history with European countries especially the Roman Empire, the city of Alexandria was very famous for its Greek, Roman AND Egyptian mix of culture and architecture and that’s what makes it so special. There is literal diversity already available in the time period this movie is set in but it’s not the diversity the people behind the film wanted smh
"I realized what a political act it would be..." Aaaaaand there we have the REAL motivation behind all of this, folks. Straight from the horse's mouth.
Lmao that one got me too. If this was simply a documentary series about black queens, then it wouldn't be a very political endeavor. But she noted (quite dramatically) how political it was, indicating that this is not simply a documentary series about black queens, but in fact just a vessel for identity politics.
Or when Jada said the show is not so much about Cleopatra but more about them. Then why tf didn't they just make up a fictional story? Art imitates life and there are tons of fictional stories inspired by real life historical events.
I’m Cypriot and I’m deeply offended of they’re doing and falsifying history but not only that they’re didn’t know she was Greek! Im glad people realized that too
'As a child I thought is her skin tone right' Show me one child, whose parents are not actively pushing their agenda on it, who thinks about these things.
childs who just discovered about egypt before: WOW so there are mummies?! childs who discover about egypt now totaly not influenced by their parents: wow so what is her pronouns? is she melanine sister?
It was only as a teenager that I noticed all that as others droned on about it. Never really cared as a child as I had friends who were different races or skin tones without thinking about it. Even when accused in primary school by a pakistani teacher assistant who seemed to dislike white people for whatever reason. She was nowhere near us and somehow heard a child say "chocolate lollipop" which is apparently a slur. Even had a racist Scottish headteacher who was a horrible woman. Both prejudiced yet preached diversity. That was only the 2000s. It would be like me being a teacher in Japan and racially abusing them whilst everyone looks the other way. Very strange behaviour.
Well a child could wonder about the accuracy of history, it's not like we have videos of the distant past, written records may not be accurate. It's only natural to create and imagine things in our image. However when that woman stated that "I don't care what anyone says, Cleopatra was black" with such an ignorant amount of confidence- yeah I'd say they might have been a little influenced lol
Her argument that Egypt being black because it's in Africa is like saying Norwegians are olive skinned like people from the Mediterranean because they're both in Europe. These people are so dumb and ignorant and deny the truth because it doesn't make them feel right.
Have you looked at the various paintings and statues that depict dark and brown black people in ancient egypt? Are you aware of the fact that ancient greeks referred to ancient egyptians as black ? Are you aware that there are NUMEROUS black nations surrounding ancient egypt who have strong cultural ties with ancient egypt and they(Ancient ethopia and ancient nubia) have more cultural ties with ancient egypt than northern europe and even ancient greece
Are you also aware that Egyptian paintings and artifacts color common Egyptians as brown or red -skinned and then there were certain groups who are black colored people? North Africans may have close cultural ties with other Africans near them but Egypt being very much closer to MiddleEast Asia than for example Ethiopia, it's not surprising to look differently from Sub Saharan or West Africans. Try to to go around India or Middle East. You would realize that these people may share a certain part of their culture but their features may vary from North to South. In India alone, you'll see people who look Chinese in NorthEast, then see Black, African looking people in the South. You can actually do that in other regions in Asia.
@@athenstar10 there are red and black people. contrary to popular belief, we are not all blue black looking. the oldest African subpopulation is actually light brown.
Well northen Africa has been invaded by greeks, romans and Arabs, so yea Arabs populate Egypt now but Egypt was all black Africans prior to the Greek Freak Alexander
@@Pentazoid111 let me remind you that we are talking about Cleopatra, Egyptians didn't have the same insecurities about skin color as Americans but Cleopatra in particular is of Greek descent
How ironic that she claims to be an activist for “people of color“ but when The same people are coming out and telling them that they are wrong, they simply ignore them. This woman is the definition of delusional. She’s not actually doing anything for the people she’s claiming to speak up for. She just doing it to make herself feel good. The Egyptian’s are straight up, telling her that she’s depicting one of their cultural figures wrong, but she’s refusing to hear them.
Man, I'm so happy that all Egyptians now know that they're Black. They know that their heritage is all Black. How kind that they now have Americans telling a whole culture what their history _actually_ is. They should be grateful, honestly
You have to be completely ignorant or incredibly racist to believe the continent of Africa is only home to black people and stupid to believe it's a massive country. It's a culmination of various countries with various ethnicities and cultures much like South America is. If you sent an American to South Africa, they'd be surprised by all the white faces and likely be offended.
@@moderatecanuck Their history is still mixed with the region. As far as I can tell, modern Egyptians don't view themselves as Egypt+ and still value the history of the region Admittedly, this is based on my little experience with modern Egyptians and the fact that a dude decided to sue American Netflix for culturally appropriating from an African/Middle Eastern/Mediterranean region
here is the thing... the name "AFRICA" was used long before the the people's of sub-Sahara used it... the word Africa referred to North Africa... and North Africa was Greek, Jewish, and Roman...
Well given that white supremacy has actually resulted in the deaths of millions upon millions and is currently a threat to the planet. I’d say that white supremacy is a far more insidious and dangerous ideology.
Because they are gas lighting us. They want to call it a documentary and when anyone crticizes it they will fall back to the "reimagined characters" line.
@@stc3145 Should be accurate. Problem is if you look deeper into a lot of documentaries, they are one sided and trying to sell you a narrative. Often going to great lengths to show opposing views in the worst light possible if they are brought up at all.
@@subarashi-sama6309 her mother was black? How come? You do realise pharohs Married their sisters and Cleopatra’s ancestors were Macedonian Greeks - so white mediteranean. They intermarried. She’s also depicted on coins from that era and different statues of her from that period still exist. She doesn’t look black at all.
@@subarashi-sama6309to an idiot like you the name means nothing, to Greeks like Cleopatra and her family means “glory of the father”. Maybe you wish to challenge our language as well? It is not black enough for you? 😅
....I remember reading the Royal Diaries as a kid. Here's a list of the non-white/European princesses featured by the series Nzingah - Angola Kaiulani - Hawaii Jahanara - India Sondok - Soul Korea Lady of the Ch'iao Kuo - China Weetamo - New England (Massachusetts-Rhode Island) Lady of Palenque - Mesoamerica, Mayan (southern Mexico region) Anacaona - Haiti Kazunomiya - Japan As you can see the series features nine princesses of non-European lineage (Cleopatra VII was one of the first books but she's Greek so she's excluded). This book series was a GREAT way to introduce powerful historical women to tween girls.
Wow so many stories they could've told and instead these maniacal SJW's choose to make a Tokenized, racist, and revisionist story. That's 1984 type bullshit. I find it ironic these SJW's constantly winge and whine about racism and bigotry, and yet they are the most racist and bigoted people I have ever seen.
It’s the new hollywood model to create buzz around their show or film. Controversy gets people interested. Not saying it’s right, but it’s what we’ve seen over the last 8 years
You think the Arabs that reside in Egypt was there before the conquest of the prophet Muhammad ?rather Egypt was conquered by the tongue or by the sword, from Muslims, those Muslims that reside there now are from Saudi Arabia they have no historical attachment to that enviroment prior to 700Ad
Dr. Zahi Hawass is a European pawn for white supremacy, he is there to help white wash all of ancient Egypt...from the beginning. I heard they are there painting all the sculptures white, with old dyes they found in in The tomb of queen Nefertari they changed alots of the people's color on the walls...that's why when they close up a tomb, is because they are doing devilish mess when they find a tomb there...
The Ancient Egyptians were black, though. Artistic representations from The Golden Age of Ramesses II's reign clearly depict both the nobility and martial classes (the ruling castes) as being of Nubian skin-shade. Such can be seen on their painted hieroglyphics, illustrated pottery & funerary sculptures of the age. Additionally, DNA tests from Ramesses III & his heir reveal obvious haplotype mimicry between their lineage and Niger-Congo ethnicities. Adding unto this even more, Herodotus himself outright states that the Egyptians were indistinguishable from the Colchians & Ethiopians in terms of skin color; going as far as to outright call them "of black-skin, woolly-hair & thickened lips." Ultimately, Egyptologist Stuart Tyson Smith sums it up best in the 2001 Oxford Dictionary of Ancient Egypt; "Any characterization of race of the ancient Egyptians depends on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study. Thus, according to modern American standards it is reasonable to characterize the Egyptians as 'black', while still acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical diversity of Africans." Like I keep saying, how modern "egyptians" feel about factual historical context is of relatively little importance.
Netflix also a couple of years ago, promoted the movie "Cuties," which is basically underage pornography. So, I'm not surprised that Netflix is still doing dumb crap.
Let us not forget the abomination Netflix did by portraying the long golden-haired, blue- eyed Achilles, as a totally shaven head-bold black-skinned man! I was really outraged then !
That was the worst version of war of troy I have seen. Even that movie was better because it focused on the political aspect of the war. That show was just ancient "Popcorn".
And you know what's worst about it? While too busy to blackwash Achilles, they totally ignored an actual black hero, king Memnon of Aethiopia, a renowned warrior. Some respect and inclusion of black people there, really!
@@irena4545 They probably left him out because he got killed by Achilles. A few years ago, i had uploaded the comic book adaptation of the Trojan War by Marvel and i left Memnon's part out because i was afraid that my videos would be deleted because of " racism ". There's no reasoning with those SJWs.
It's been a long time since I've been left speechless. My god, the absolute audacity and arrogance of this woman, who has no relationship to Egypt at all, thinking she has any right to tell Egyptians how they should feel about the portrayal of their own history. Edit: Also, the fact that her and the production already got backlash during shooting shows they knew Egyptians weren't happy with this a long time and they didn't care. I would bet everything I have that they thought, because of the current political climate in the US, that their US audience in particular wouldn't care that they're misrepresenting history and would simply celebrate a 'black Queen'. They underestimated their audience and once again showed that race-swapping is nothing but performative pandering.
And yet I frequently see people in YT videos or comments saying that "Race swapping is harmless or not woke agenda" or "anything with a gay or black person is automatically woke to these people".
My god, the absolute audacity and arrogance of you to make these statements as if you are familiar with her ancestry. How do you know she doesn’t have a connection to Ancient Egypt? What substantiating evidence do you have to support your claims? Modern Egyptians, do not have the right to prohibit someone from exploring ancient Egyptian history based on looks, a false narrative regarding an individual’s ancestry or a mistaken belief that ancient Egyptians are only the ancestors of modern Egyptians. They are the ancestors of the entire modern population. Egypt wasn’t in some bubble. Being angry about someone portraying an individual from a group they descend from is comical.
I have a quip that "I just don't have enough sarcasm for this" when something is s absurd, so comedic in itself that I just can't come up with any derision or humor that can add to it. Yeah, it just leaves you speechless.
@@limonesycafe8898 This is a documentary, not a work of fiction. So it should be based on the knowledge we have. Which includes coins with the image of her face, her insanly inbred Greek family and every writen piece mentioning her being Greek 🤦🏻♀️ The world does in exist in black and white only. Such an American view on it. Most of shades in between the two. Greek people are usually more tan than Norther Europeans, but they are still European. Northern African people are not black black, super dark skin just because its in Africa. Having actually been to Norther n Africa, its such a stupid thing for people to claim. Even more stupid when people claim to know better than the people who's actually FROM Egypt.
Not to mention the Greek upper class did not mix with the Egyptians. Nor did the traditional Egyptians want to mix with Greeks. There was an administrative class that was mixed, living mostly in the Fayum, but the royal family was far above them.
@@codyasterix7421 I'm a professional Egyptologist. You do NOT know what you are talking about. Egyptians are by majority not Arabs. Even though their government and religion changed with the Islamic Conquest of the Seventh Century, the Egyptians, with few exceptions, did not intermarry with their Arab conquerors. Today's population is largely made up of direct descendants of the ancient Egyptians. Cleopatra VII herself was Macedonian Greek, a direct descendant of one of Alexander the Great's successful generals, Ptolemaios, who became known to history as Ptolemy I Soter, the founder of the Ptolemaic Dynasty. The last ruler Cleopatra was the only one in her family who even learned Egyptian.
@@dlperk5035 so that would mean that ancient Egyptian’s aren’t black then? And would be brown? Because of all the paintings and everything that we have, they definitely do not look sub-Saharan African.
@@dlperk5035 You're a professional Egyptologist???...what studies or field work have you contributed to? what archeological facilities, institutions, colleges or universities are you affiliated with? I'll wait...
Two things: 1. After everything Jada has done to Will, I won't support anything she touches 2. Not even Batman and Sherlock Holmes combined couldn't track the mental gymnastics these people are doing 😂
@@Reflux9are you black? Why are you defending lies? Why are defending changing history? Are you stupid? Uneducated? There is a reason why Egyptians are mad at this documentary. Black Americans are taking it too far, like this director Jada Pinkett Smith. Don’t lie, don’t change history. Cleopatra ain’t black. She was Greek. Basic knowledge. Ask your museum about ancient Egypt
You think the Arabs that reside in Egypt was there before the conquest of the prophet Muhammad, rather Egypt was conquered by the tongue or by the sword, from Muslims, those Muslims that reside there now are from Saudi Arabia they have no historical attachment to that enviroment prior to 700ad
@@caramelbilqueeseven though the person is not even Egyptian.. she was Greek! Being born in Egypt doesn’t change your ethnicity. And for god shake, they were conquerors, her family were foreign rulers, not Egyptians.
Good on the Egyptian lawyer. British lawyers should sue the makers of the black Anne Boleyn that is an outrage The ultimate English rose portrayed by a black actress.
If I had a nickel for everytime one of these "woke" newage people talk down to the people they claim to champion I'd be a millionaire. Equity Conquistadors are at it again.
If I had a nickel for every time I've tried to do a Phineas and Ferb "if I had a nickel" joke and screwed it up, o'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
I've been telling my friends how bad this crap has been getting for a few years now. They didn't really take me seriously until recently, with one making a complete 180 from indifference and denial to outright pissed. The veil has been lifted, and he's angry. One of my other close friends is still largely in denial. Even she is having a hard time justifying this blackwashing.
"What bothers you so much about Cleopatra being black?" What bothered you so much about Elizabeth Taylor's Cleopatra being white? And that wasn't even a documentary.
Thanks for watching everyone & yeah this is a bonus video, now I’ll shut up for a few days maaaaybe. Lemme know what else you wanna see & have a great day!
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A fortune teller?
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That's too good.
At this point the best thing we can do is literally ignore these media
Uh will u cover the recent horizon dlc drama?
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@@acertainmysteriousvirtuoso6150 That Aloy is gay? Of course she is. She’s a Mary Sue
Imagine telling Egyptians that theyre wrong to be offended by their history being blackwashed. How dare she.
You fool she's _enlightening_ them of the truth. Their "history" was installed into their culture by the White Devil, obviously. She should be suing all of Egypt for "calling her out"
Wokism perpetuates the bigotry of low expectations and especially talks down to groups other than white with a paternalistic attitude because they don't see them as people.
The women is biracial, so it's not black washing
@@KemetledAfrica where's the difference?
@@KemetledAfrica It is black washing
Born too early to explore Space
Born too late to explore Earth
Born just in time to witness Netflix's shenanigans, what a time to be alive
Born just in time to live through woke insanity what a way to live
More like the one group that culturally appropriates everything falsely blames everyone else.
@@jaxsazerac4904 to be fair, thats the majority of the history we experience. Cleopatra was in fact bi-racial and she had a "black" parent but she had fair-skin and was macedonian which is VASTLY different than what people consider white.
@@herondope5675 Ha Ha, trust me they are not interested in facts. Just go with she looked EXACTLY like Elizabeth Taylor and that will be accepted.
@@jamesway lol thats the issue with the world, all these race-baiting and no respect for historical accuracy.
I’m Egyptian and it’s great seeing people starting to stand up against this madness!
Don't be silly to side with these barbarians. Had they not got any push back from us they would still be portraying ancient Nile valley culture as yellow haired Nordics. They only see you as a mongrel.
I'm not Egyptian but I'm so proud of you guys! Never let anyone blackwash or steal your history away from you!
Glad to get appreciation for this!
Fiction is one thing, but history is quite another.. ancient Egyptians were NOT black, no matter how much some folks try to make it so.
The political madness gripping some of the US right now is just really crazy right now.
@@rbarnes4076 Not black in the modern sense but definitely not white no matter how much Eurocentrism they feed people. Hollywood seemed to care about the whites being portrayed as Egyptians, also the Nubians were a dynasty of Egypt that were for all tense and purposes black.
There is over 200 pyramids in in the sub Saharan after all, and the Sudanese are the closest thing to maintaining the culture of Egyptians. Other dynasties as wells shared distinct haplogroups of the African diaspora as well…
💯% agree!
It’s crazy how this woke women had the nerve to tell Egyptians about THEIR culture when she knows nothing of it
Also Greeks.. she states Seleucid were “west Asians” 😂
Hmm… wasn’t he 1 of the 4 Greek generals of Alexandros who took over some of his empire after his death, same as Ptolemy? 😅 so Greeks marrying other Greeks result to black Cleopatra. Apparently Greek is the new black 😅
I am an African Nubian descendant and the Egyptians of the past had black skins. Unlike the modern day Egyptians we see today large majority are not native to the land. They came from Asia-Middle East. Having Egyptians as dark-skins would have been more appropriate, Netflix isn't practically wrong. However, the current Egyptians of today are neither the true description of medieval Egyptians.
@@VistaGlobe you sound just as ignorant the as people who claims to be Egyptian! You helping them to write your dumba... out of your own history fool! You damn well these Asians is not Egyptian no way form or fashion! Can you find any rice fields in dry Egypt?
Its mental illness when you can clearly that the people was dark complexion and its all on the walls in the damn pyramids and then you have a Caucasian looking guy is pissed because he doesn't look nothing like what in those pyramids and statues and people can't recognize him as a Egyptian! We are millions of years old which that makes us the oldest race on this planet They went far as shooting the noses and desecrating the monuments just to try the real identities, AND the bullsht didn't work because the truth can not and will not be hidden!
@@VistaGlobe "modern day Egyptians are not native to the land"??? You know...
The issue is they want cultural appropriation to only apply to black people’s culture. You can’t gaslight everyone else’s skin color and culture and say it doesn’t matter. It matters
You really gonna pretend like Sigurney Weaver didn't look foolish in "Exodus: Gods and Kings"
It's a fiction movie, she did look goofy, and if they put a disclaimer that this documentary was fake no one would be upset. These people are actually claiming both macedonians and Egyptians are.l black.
For me it's incredibly insulting that they black wash other's history instead of coming up with ours.
All these black washing hypocrites are basically saying that our own black history is cool enough, downplaying it.
@@fieldmojo5304 Herodotus (You know, who white folks call the father of history) had no problem calling them such. Egyptians were black. He saw Egyptians as having black skin and woolly hair (Herodotus, 2.104)
Well what do you have, besides you white and you say so?
@@fieldmojo5304 It is a documentary so it is really bad, same as saying the earth is flat in a documentary.
Just imagine if they were making a historically black person suddenly white 💀 the media would go insane
They would never do it, revisionist history only goes one way it seems
@@EndymionTv it’s been going the other way . But I understand why it upsets you. You spend all your time complaining about blacks people in media because you aren’t used to it. Wish I could feed the same but for years and years black people didn’t whine about nothing but white actors in movies.
*This summer, one man will have a dream. And that dream will unite us all.*
*Tom Cruise IS "Martin Luther King Jr".*
*Rated PG-13.*
Heres the thing they forget a significant number of slaves were white but how they ignore that
@@P8nplays as an African man, I feel sorry for you. You don't have the skill or the guts to create your own characters, so you settle for sloppy seconds from white liberal Democrats who pity your stupidity. You're weak.
Its pretty much CLEAR that the director sees Cleopatra as her self-insert, rather than, you know, a real person.
Yes! It gives off 'I identify as .....' vibes.
She actually said that a fortune teller told her "I'm not saying you are Cleopatra, but you are related to her" 😂😂
she's a bitch, just keep boycoting his stuff
@@Ariel1Dominguez when a woman who believe in horoscope or fortune teller, you automatically know their statements are invalid
It's Velma all over again.
I think these producers aren't considering the Egyptians as real people. They literally use an entire country like its a hollywood prop, cause Cleopatra was such a badass boss lady.
Cloepatria was a tramp who used her VJ to try to save her empire which fell anyway. And she killed herself. She was trash. I never understood why people were fascinated by a woman who failed in job and had to sleep with men to try to keep it.
Unfortunately Netflix et. al. treats this ‘documentary’ as a money making and political machine rather than trying to make something historically accurate. Unfortunately for them, it backfired badly. I hope this is a lesson to all these corporates. Respect other countries and cultures. Just a side note - scary that this lady is a so called Professor. Academia has always been about research, finding facts and substantiating facts. Not my mother said, imagine writing that in your thesis.
And that's why you need her to represent your kin. Sorry that's just not reality.
@@JW-un3xr I don't know how tf does your comment relate to what I wrote. What is that even suppose to mean lol. Are you alright?
A persian guy here 👋🏻
Didn't know the director was a fellow Iranian and given the fact how much our history is connected with of Egypt and other countries around us, it is baffling how less she knows about the History. It's ironic how most people here want other nations to distinct Persians and Arabs (which is true), but fail to care about the truth about the race of other people. Truly something for the whole humankind to remember by...
Hi there Persian guy. You probably understand this better if you view the director as Californian becuase she sound about as Persian as Kamala Harris.
It feels like she was just paid to helm a black Cleopatra movie and is just doing her damnedest to protect her bread, even if she knows she's wrong at all levels.
@@benlunch7618 You're probably right. I guess she was born here and then immediately went away...
@@benlunch7618 yeah i bet she doesnt know a single word in Persian, shes just a reskin of a white woman.
Well said, Mahyar !!
As an Egyptian, I thank you for defending history. We in Egypt have nothing to be proud of other than our history. For us it is everything. And here he is now stealing from our hands.It's a hard feeling .But we will defend our history forever
That’s all blacks do is steal history
Just curious. How is it that so many people who claim to be Egyptian in these comments all have such good English? They all expats or something?
English is not a secret language you know, anyone can learn it💀💀 besides we study English at school
Imagine being told you're people know less about someone from your culture than someone who looked at a Wikipedia article for .5 seconds
(I can't relate, I'm an American)
English is a lingua Franca so many people know it, some countries have it as a mandatory class.
The woman is ill. She holds a massive grudge that probably isn't even hers at all! This is what people who actively look for drama are like; they are constantly judging and condemning everything that moves.... They champion causes that aren't personally related to them, in an effort to leave a good impression and gain fame, fortune, or worse.
They hate white men, just like her husband Will Smith who is racist as fuck.
When did truth turn to drama smfh... Being stuck in a false paradigm that they shove in your lives, now that's drama. Do your research, and break.... Or remain a dum dum and just believe everthing you've been shoved to believe since you were born.
2023 black privilege
@@StrykeSZN _but...but the whites..._
I wonder if, being Persian, she has a grudge on Arabs. Could this be her deal?
As a Greek, I'm very satisfied that people recognize that Netflix once again tries to change history, now with Cleopatra who was Greek, white and not black!
Most people don't even realize that Cleopatra the 7th was Greek and not Egyptian... Based on that ignorance, many of them proceed with trying to prove Ancient Egyptians were black while modern Egyptians are Arabs, to justify the moronic notion that Cleopatra being Egyptian, she should as well be black...
So you agree Cleopatra was a “white Greek” and not “Egyptian.”
@@Messiah_Black I argue? No, that's a fact, not answering argument.
@@skoy21 Not arguing. I’m pointing out the obvious. If she’s “Greek” then that means she’s not really an “Egyptian.” A Greek person born & raised in China is still ethnically Greek. So why would it be any different when speaking about Egypt
@@Messiah_Black sorry, I misread "agree" for "argue".
Here’s my simple question: If it really mattered to the director so much to “get it right”, then why didn’t she hire an Egyptian actress to play Cleopatra? Really makes you think.
Because Jada Pinckett Smith thinks of herself as a "Black Queen" and wanted to indulge her fantasies.
@@nerthus4685 Jada Pinkett Smith is a bald, megalomaniacal sociopathic and I would not have sex with her.
@TheSpirit AndTheBride Cleopatra was not known for being pretty and supposedly the Egyptians were angry that’s she was proposed…
@@randomcole619they were against It because gadot is pro-israel... And muslims are pretty much i'n unísono in that they hhste israel
You mean Greek; Cleopatra was predominantly of Greek ancestry
She think she is smarter than all the real historians that actually research about Cleopatra because she find a Wikipedia page about Cleopatra and called it a research.
She didn't even bother to read Wikipedia. Because if she had read a little, she would have known that Cleopatra was not black.
A grandma said "Cleopatra is black"
@@DrumEagleThat grandma was a verified retard.
Nah, her source is from a grandma
i loved how she used the term historians, and no true historian would ever take what she is saying, and actually agree with it.
People have gotten so comfortable smashing the history of Europeans they didn't consider that other cultures might just say "hell no"
Cleopatra was European.
@@egilskallagrimsson2941 and egypt was still black or i guess the invasion from persians didnt happen. I guess those mixed pple called magrebis love living on lies
@@egilskallagrimsson2941 probably half
Lol... nonsense post
This 100%
watched a video made by an egyptian woman; she mentioned the hair styles and how they were a direct insult to Cleopatra who cared for her hair greatly.
When someone in Hollywoke says “for the modern audience”, it’s already doomed to fail
Exactly, the whole point of history is just that. Events of the past! It doesn't need to be interpreted for a modern audience. It is historic and part of the past! It is history! It cannot be rewritten
Yes.. for a modern audience that no longer believes the white lies that have been spread for the last 400 years or so.
Does this type of "modern audience" they keep mentioning even exist?
@@jackychan9236 yeah, it's themselves and their activists, or zoomers.
@@ArgentWolf95 Do they even go to cinema?
As an Egyptian I LOVE how “Woke” Americans are trying to educate us on our history on being Egyptian on being African 😂😂
Dude the entitlement is unreal ..
To be fair to Northern Europeans the rest of the world with few exceptions are just different variations of being Negro; Egypt and Arabia included.
Black Americans who have long been under the tutelage of Northern Europeans are picking up the idea and running with it.
The the term "woke" is being used for every damn thing some folks disagree with. It's over used.
@@mightymulatto3000 you are smoking crack if you really think that!
@@seanmac2257 no it is not it summarize ideas of these people , pedophilia having problems with reality with science biology radical feminism lgbtqa whatever guilt victim mentality and they want to impose these idea onto you
Facts.
I genuinely hope that Egyptian lawyer wins. Netflix deserves another round through the grinder.
Good luck with that. White people have been white washing history for the past thousand years or so.
You all believe that Jesus was white.
I have seen you folk portray Nubians as white.
Win what?
@@stonedecatur6602 Their lawsuit. Duh.
@@echelon2k8 not going to happen. There will be fine print.. plus, nobody has a picture of her.
@@stonedecatur6602 of who?
I find Elizabeth Taylor’s playing Cleopatra much more palatable. It was a time for American Hollywood and while they were not did not choose actors of the exact or similar ethnicities, these actors at the time were on contract with studios. Taylor was a true power and beauty of her time.
Today we have countless opportunities to get closer to get actors from the places they depict these cultural stories from. It is beautiful. We have actual busts and painting of Cleopatra done during her lifetime. Unless she was using Greek face, I am pretty sure she was Greek….
Imagine telling someone their history is wrong and getting upset when they get mad.
Basically Hollywood fart sniffers
The left in a nutshell. It's okay when they festroy an entire country's history but the moment a tiny inconvenience occurs in their perception they start whining.
Then telling them to "see themselves as African" when they already did. As if light skinned Africans are just visualizing themselves wrong.
It like being parents (audience) trying to tell their kids (Hollywood) that what they're doing is wrong but they don't wanna take any advice because of how whiny and spoiled they are.
@@lesigh1749I’m Egyptian and I have a question
here in Egypt we aren’t dark skinned more like caramel but we are born in an African country so we are African (definitely more than those LA and Hollywood elites )so I have to ask what’s the situation with the N-word
This reminds me of the backlash against Rami Malek being cast as Ankhmenrah in the "Night at the Museum" movies, saying he was 'too light skinned to pass as an Egyptian'...despite the fact he IS Egyptian ethnically.
Bingo!
It's like the fact Egyptians are living relics aka they look exactly like their ancestors just goes over their heads
Same thing is happening right now to the actor and actress cast in lilo and stitch remake ( as if it needed a remake, but still )
"Dey wanna be us"
@@nerthus4685 last time i checked, i didn't want to be a broke gangbanger criminal
they're seriously asking what's wrong with black Cleopatra but when a character is played by an actor who doesn't have same race or ethnicity, they're fuming. these people are just insane.
But no one tripped when she was played by white people?
The fact that this is documentary just makes it worse. A documentary should aim to be precise with history.
@@mitacestalia7532 They didn’t learn their lesson from seeing what happened to The Woman King.
Her argument is terarded. Egypt needs to see itself as African? B*tch... we are *all* dumb, bald monkeys from Africa. Even my Irish ass.
@@mitacestalia7532Lmao Every Documentary is over exaggerated so people don’t get bored but this is just lying.
"Keep doubling down, don’t reflect. Everyone else is the problem, you can never be wrong. Keep going"
She keeps saying it's important to get things right, while she's getting EVERYTHING wrong.
weren't the Jews the ones who were chased by the Egyptians? i mean Moses was one of them?
she parrots the words of her handlers.
How so?
@@earth-6163 Cleopatra was of Greek descent, she was often said to have fair, olive skin. Last time I checked that was not black
@@brandiwhitley5798 yeah like if you have to be a different area of the world a sun kissed Aussie is more accurate.
People like her need to realize that if you double down along with insult and blame the audience for your shows ratings it will just cause more backlash and less viewers
Facts yet they never learn
@Stick the landing, they can't realize it because they NEVER think they are wrong and thus can't learn.
They don’t care, that’s the problem. They’re willing to destroy themselves for “the cause”.
@@theheroneededwillette6964 and becauce these parasite never truly fail. They fail upward to keep pushing "the message" and to get that ESG score up
She is probably doing this because she already knew no one was going to watch this. Just now she will have another excuse.
My grandmother said she doesn't care what my teachers say, Cleopatra was Korean.
Hahahahahhahahaha I laughed so loud. Best comment
with a hint of Klingon
Good one! Good one!
lmao
no she was a trans
Hundreds of years of archaeological excavations , tons of artifacts , millions of people who have given their whole lives to this topic , billions of printed publications and books of inceclopedias , museums
Netflix
BUT YES, I have to ignore it all because grandma told her granddaughter that Cleopatra is BLACK
BUT! Grandma knows best.🤣🤣🤣
Produced by people with an agenda. Thieves, usurpers, desecrators... smh, Excuse me if i have little to no faith in their honesty or accurate depictions. @@dapooramericanhomesteadfar7192
*WhaaatChu* mEan maAN? We Wuz KangZ & shEeeit bruvvv
"I wanted Egyptians to see themselves as African" she really said something that stupid.
bless her she was trying to get egyptians reperations too
Like, there IS something to be said for recognizing Egypt is one of the far Northern extensions of Africa and has influenced it and been influenced by it. But that's way different from saying Cleopatra or most Ancient Egyptians were Black. That's manifestly untrue.
Wokesplaining to Egytians.
The arrogance in that statement, Egyptians by definition are and see themselves as African. It's just not the completely deluded, uneducated US view of what Africa is supposed to be according to them. They have literally zero clue how vast and diverse that continent is.
They're Egyptians. Their civilization stands as among the oldest if not the oldest in recorded history. They formed the first unified nation state. The concept of kingship was quintessentially Egyptian. Among the early civilization of the ancient world, only Egypt embraced this particular mode of rule from the very beginning of its history. They built the oldest and only remaining seven wonders of the world; the Pyramids of Giza. They are the only civilization in history to come back from total disintegration and collapse twice. They know their own history and who they are and what they are. They don't need anyone, least of all some ignorant Afrocentric Americans with no sense of history, to tell them how they should see themselves.
Jada: "We don't often get to hear stories about black queens..."
Also Jada: makes a documentary about a white woman depicted by a black actress.
I wonder what other black queens were planned for inclusion in future episodes... Elizabeth I? Catherine the Great? Empress Wu? Rani Durgavati?
They already blackwashed Anne Boylen, so lizzie number one is a fair guess.
God forbid she tells us stories about actual powerful black women. That would require her to learn about Sub-Saharan African history which she obviously doesn't know. If black Americans want to find powerful historical figures that look like them they aren't going to find many of them in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. That's just the way it is and doing crap like this isn't helping.
If given the knowledge they will try to make Jhansi ki Rani black🤦♀️🤦♀️
For someone wondering, Jhansi ki Rani was a freedom fighter who lost her husband. So, inorder to protect her kingdom and her heir's right from the British, she went in war while carrying her infant. They both sadly died in battle but it gave India a hope that Britishers can be fought against.
Who's jada?
@@Barbaturixsson Jada Pinkett Smith, black African-American actress, husband is actor/comedian Will Smith
As a fan of history this person who said this had an F in history .
The FBI saying this makes this funnier
Ancient Egypt = black Africans
Modern Egypt = Invaders and their descendants, Romans, Persians, Greeks, Hyksos, Arabs, Yemeni etc.
"It was important to get things right" - she ended up getting everything wrong 😂😂😂
"Cleopatra lived in Africa, so she must have been black"
"A man is changing in the women's locker room, so he must be a woman"
-Same people
Also these same people: *refuses to believe that Elon Musk is African just because he's not melanated* 😂
Jesus lived in Tibet for a time according to some sources. So he must have been an Oriental Tibetan Monk 😂
I'm curious, are ppl in Asia, Asians? They have biological similarities? Europeans share non melanin in general? But Egyptians somehow went thousands of years in Africa but aren't melanated(black)? I think Egyptians drank the Kool aid. Smh
"Black people arent human."
"I'm not racist."
-Same people
Oh fuck off that is not the same people and you know it
I'd like to point out that as an African I have been working on a story about an actual black Queen. The one who fought off the Romans and won decisively. She was a General and won many battles. We do not have to blackwash history to find our strong women. These people are lazy.
Also, these American Woke producers ONLY idea of African, is that of a black "African American" culture that literally did not exist 300 years ago. These are Africans by way of America.
@@ae112 there are lots of Berber queens but they're not much blacker than Elizabeth Taylor
Hollywood would do a lot better if they had you in charge of the story writing. If anything, I see this crap they’re pushing in Hollywood to be embarrasing for black people. After all, why would any black person want to be seen as a carbon copy of a white man/woman’s success? Really! Is this the best they can do?
@@zimrielbut berbers are not black… they are North Africans, Mediterraneans.
Would love to hear more. I've read about Roman successes, not about their defeats. (When they were defeated, they just got more troops & then won.)
Who was it that defeated Rome in ancient times? Ta
Lets just say for a moment that Egypt was black. Ok, granted. That still doesn’t change the fact that Cleopatra wasn’t.
She was literally a puppet ruler installed by Alexander lol
She wasn’t a puppet ruler installed by Alexander, she was the Scion of a Greek Dynasty that had begun after Alexander the Great’s death; you could maybe stretch and say she was a puppet installed by Caesar, but she manipulated him as mush as he did her
@@justinbowers2749 exactly
@@EndymionTv no she wasn't, dafuq! She died before Alexander conquered Egypt.
@@EndymionTv Well, her family was, Alexander had passed away at the time.
They shouldve done a special about Hatshepsut. Literally a queen who proclaimed herself king/pharoah.
Imagine just visiting Egypt and calling all 100 million Egyptians “Fake Egyptians”
*Flies to another country
"This country is a deep fake."
Imagine visiting Australia, New Zealand, USA and thinking the current inhabitants are the natives
@@trevormcdonald385 Imagine thinking you can complain about colonialism centuries ago while supporting modern day colonialism in Europe.
Most Egyptians are Egyptians by nationality only. It seems that none of the average Egyptians want to acknowledge the fact that starting with mameluke sultanate all the way up to the ottoman empire there was a mass migration of Turks from central Asia. All while this was happening the indigenous stock and the Macedonian stock was pushed further into East Africa. The indigenous stock of Ancient Egypt are the nilotic peoples and while the macedonians were caucasian the greeks, whom they aligned themselves with, had an appearance similar to gujarati people and gypsys with medium to dark amount of melanin in their skin. I'm not making this point to spread hatred. I'm trying to say that more than likely this depiction of Cleopatras appearance is a lot closer than previous depictions.
@@jmlaw8888 it is karma hitting you back.
But is it modern day colonialism.
All it seems to me like desperate west immigrating lot's of people to combat their reducing birthrates and population.
My favorite part was "I'm offending Egyptians, and I'm OK with this"
Also, it would be funny as hell to see a white female, Genghis Khan, as long as it's not marketed as historical
. Though even that would be funny as hell to see.
@@codyasterix7421 they don't wanna hear that, sadly. for some odd reason, it's so difficult to believe that black people were ruling in Egypt. they'll accept that all civilization began in Egypt, but if it isn't about us being in huts and having bones through our noses (which there's nothing wrong with) they don't want to hear it. they already have a preconceived notion of what we were and will not budge when it comes no matter how much proof they are given. it's a lose-lose, and you can't even call it for what it is w/o backlash
@@codyasterix7421
Are you Egyptian?
As an Egyptian, thank you. This perfectly summarized our frustration.
Unsubscribed from Netflix as I do not want to consume their woke agenda as you said so well!
@@codyasterix7421 You're a retard, Egyptians are decedent of people of the levant, they are not Arabs and no one and I mean no one claims the pharaohs to be Muslim, Islam is a religion.
Do people in egypt care a lot about their history? Like, is it important?
@@sugunikibo885 dude, yeah. people generally care about their country history being portrait with at least some kind of accuracy
@@sugunikibo885 lol so where ever you are in the world, do you care about your country's history?
I love Egyptian history and feel anger at what netflix has done and will continue to do.
My grandmother told me no matter what they tell you in school. Cleopatra was a viking.
Yeah, sure dude. Everyone knows she was a Samurai. So just drop the bull. Okay?
@@himwhoisnottobenamed5427 Yes but maybe she was a viking samurai?
😂
If she really doubted cleopatras skin color as a child she must have had a really sad childhood
Major r/andeverybodylapped moment
And then the whole city slowly clapped and she shook hands with the first lady, who then gave her $100k.
@@DonVigaDeFierro Dollars Didn’t exist back then you mean Drachma.
she's lying, There are two kinds of leftist liars. it's why they are who they are. only a liar can live thinking everything is everyone else's fault.
and honest person recognizes the shadow lurking within, and thusly practices a little discipline and humility in their life.
Had they any, they'd passionately build something worth building for the future, not fixate and cry about the past.
There are idiot liars, who tell lies and justify them with "good intentions"
And then there are the evil liars, who have knowingly sold out their fellows to keep a seat at the Elite's table
she doubted her skin color because she was raised by racist idiots.
Someone needs to show Hollywood and Netflix a lot of history books and genealogy books!
Please don’t because they’re bastardize it even more if they find more material
@@EndymionTv No $hit! They'll be at the forefront of trying to ban books based on fallacy and then attempt to rewrite the same to fit their own corrupt narrative.
Social engineering at its finest. Anton LaVey prohibited his children from watching tv...very telling.
Not really, we just need more directors that actually cares more about entertaining people than shoving their ideologies and agenda's down our throats
Will they read it tho?
In that case tell me what ethnicity was the mother of CLEOPATRA.
When Cleopatra jumped on that burning police car and screamed "DEFUND THE POLICE" with that St George of Fentanyl shirt on, it brought me to tears. Best picture Oscar!
It reminds me of the great quote by Julius Tyrone Caesar: *I can’t breath an’ shieet*
Stunning, but yet also brave.
@@Kommiekiller bruh I had to play Julius Caesar in every play anytime in school because my name was Julius 🤦
I deadass got tired of getting stabbed in the back at the end every time man
@@Kommiekiller dude, you've got me laughing in public 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@juliushall8499 dude, that's hysterical LOL LOL
The comic book analogy you mentioned is also important, lets see a character who’s originally always been black gets race swapped, you’ll have a lot of people complain fictional or not
I was annoyed at first, but now I’m kind of concerned. The director is definitely delusional. At some point she was brainwashed as a child, and I feel sorry for her.
Yes and she talks about a future teller.
Thought she was to busy cheating on her husband
She will be put in place by the Egyptian government anyway.
She's a Marxist liar.
The Egyptians weren’t black but you must understand, these people are crazy. I once heard a black guy say the original Samurai were black. Just like with the trans movement, these people are delusional and expect everyone to go along with the delusion.
That being said, if the Egyptians were black that means they enslaved my people, the Jews, for 5,000 years. I want reparations from blk Egyptians.
As a Persian born in Iran I'm sorry on behalf of her , Dear Egyptian people please forgive her stupidity and ignorance and keep fighting for your rich history also
ENDYMIONtv huge thank you for this great video never be scared to show the truth
No need to apologize. There are nutters from everywhere.
The trans kids of America forgive you
fuck no, don't apologize in behalf of her, fight her.
They're doing the same shit to us, btw. Not only are they trying to claim the Elamites (who were dark skinned, but indigenous to modern day Khuzestan with zero relation to africans) but the Achaemenids as well, because apparently only blacks are allowed to have curled hair!
If I were Persian I would have disowned her. She has converted completely to the Woke cult (which is much more an American heritage than anything close to Persian) . The only reason why she mentions her Persian heritage is because she can exploit it for selfish reasons, to gain political power over others. It gives her "street cred" with her peers.
Western entertainment industry: You are racist, homophobic, bigoted, etc. If you don't like our modern takes & change in history
Meanwhile in Japan: So how about another Isekai? Or another romance anime? Modern politics? Racism? LGBTQ community? Nah bro. We just make stuff for fun. Now, how about that new season of Demon Slayer?
@@neko7606 Imagine the amount of madness and the meltdown people from the west would have if there was an anime that had a female lesbian as a villain. And she wasn't redeemed. I wouldn't be surprised if such characters already exist in their boundaries, since Japan is all about creative freedom & not letting a small minority of people dictate what they can & can't create.
From what I hear, anime is going woke. Trust me, if your country was in the way of globalists, they would focus on attacking your culture
@@neko7606 facts japan and some european nation embace the lgbt people during 20th century and did not mske it a big issue like the right and some reglius nutjobs sorry people the people who are creatreing more trouble are them not the left
@@neko7606indeed true, is the never focus and even when is the focus they got wholes demographics centered on that, they don't shove it down Your throat.
That's why I moved outta america and consume mostly japanese media
I won't watch it, I refuse to. Simple as that. I don't want to be fooled by a revisionist lie like that
So she admits this was a political act. She doesn’t want her work speak for itself. She has to make her name through the easiest, cheapest, low effort option available to Hollywood - casting controversy.
It sounded more like she genuinely believed we need to black wash historical figures
As soon as she was talking about fucking melanin I knew that was a noi talking point. The noi if you have no melanin you have no soul . To noi this can range from white/Jewish people to everyone who isn’t specifically sub Saharan African.
@@Jellybelly008 I hate these SJW's, constantly spreading Tokenism and pretending it's Diversity it makes me sick.
As an Iranian myself, I can't believe this woman's words. our directors and actors inside the country are either getting arrested or dealing with heavy censorship and this is how she uses her opportunities as a director internationally?!
Shame
Did you feel a certain way when Jake Gyllenhaal played the star of "Prince of Persia"? Seeing that he looks nothing like the very dark brown Persian archers on wall of persopolis. I guess if you are really descent from the Parthians and/or the multitude of pale Turkic Scythian folk that came off the steppes and not really Persian it wouldn't matter to you. Thats why you changed name to Iran, right?
@@18breaths66 Persians are not and were not VERY dark/brown just like Egyptian we are the people of middle east we are not black, we are not white, the painting on persepolis walls are colourless unlike Egypt's painting, considering the fact that persepolis was burnt, and this is not even about Persians It's about Cleopatra who was a Greek/Macedonian queen and she was definitely white and this was supposed to be a documentary not a unreal made up fantasy like Prince of Persia, I don't understand why you mixing these two
@18 Breaths not all persians (or as we call ourselves over a centry now "Iranians") are dark, mostly are Caucasian. we do have dark and brown colored skin people, they are in the south of the country.
@Nila Y you countered him better than I could have done.
I really don't have the mind capacity to argue with people on the internet.
@@awesomearsam1890 Thanks for input. I wasn't making reference to what is there now, but what once was majority.
Black people: our history is rich.
Also black people: Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, Chinese, Koreans and Japanese were black.
Go cry to the white people that are saying that
Yeah, they have to make false claims and shoehorn themselves into everything, because they never achieved anything of significance.
Kpop stole our music!
Their history is trash
@@davidcook680 I mean the Ehtiopians do have a rich history, so do the sudanese. but not every african nation has a rich history that can be traced back millenia...
I visited a fortune teller and was told that I was related to George Washington and that George Washington was black. Something inside me told me that I was special and that I was taught wrong in school about George Washington.
I love how the Director doesn't understand that Elizabeth Taylor's Cleopatra was portrayed as a "movie" not a pseudo "realistic" documentary.
And from my research, people weren't happy with Elizabeth's portrayal of Cleopatra either. That movie almost bombed an entire movie studio from the inflated budget and no one going to see it back in that day.
They weren’t upset that Cleopatra was see as white. After that move Elisabeth was loved in Egypt & all over.
@@bonbon-gl8qo That movie was actually banned in Egypt when it got out, it was only lifted a few decades later because Egyptian was really mad at that times but they understand because at that time they dont really have any other brown actresses in Hollywood. Egyptian was mad not because she;s white but because she was not Greek, they should have at least find someone with Greek ancestry to portray her, but the again in the 50's even the Greek were marginalized in the US and most Anglo American consider the Greek as fake whites and called them derogatory names.
@@wewenang5167 thanks for letting me know that history. I didn’t know. I’m just taken back by the anger around this documentary. Cleopatra has been portrayed as a Greek white woman throughout our time, but during her lifetime the Greeks didn’t see her as being Greek. Her linage from a hundred year prior was from Ptolemy of course, but she clearly had Egyptian blood in her. To think that No Egyptian involved or part of her ancestry is crazy. No mater if she was a light or darker skinned woman. I’m so taken back by the hate. If this actor was half Greek yet still a mixed black woman would their still be so much anger? What takes me out is that I don’t see any black Egyptians being part of these conversations. They all seem to be Arab Egyptians who see to be mad at the fact that a mixed black woman is playing Cleopatra. How about when she was made to be white maybe they were actually whitewashing because she was probably more ethnically an Egyptian than she was Greek? & even though they may have banned the movie Elizabeth still received live in Egypt.
It made a ton of money but just like John Carter, the movie’s budget couldn’t be overcome
@@bonbon-gl8qo we're saying egyptians are not all dark-skinned. There are dark skinned Egyptians and there are light skinned Egyptians. The idea that everyone in Africa is black is ridiculous, Africa is the second largest continent. It's like saying everyone in asia looks like the chinese. Russians originally looked chinese, indians looked chinese, persians looked chinese. Now I sound insane right
Africa History: Full of stories waitin' to be told
Hollywood: Let's race swap Cleopatra and rewrite history so that we can portray the Dahomey as underdogs
The Dahomey were extremely violent slavers who were forced to give up slavery by the British. They were depicted as anti-slavery freedom fighters fighting victoriously against British slavers. Also the "fierce woman warrior troops" were extremely cruel to the average people. They were also crappy warriors and were wiped out by a handful of British soldiers.
Not stunning and brave enough
@@nerthus4685 Small correction:: It was the french, not british, who absolutely wiped the floor with the dahomey.
"Dahomey"
lmao
@@hundkebab2433 Had to use that name so the slaves felt safe
“It’s not important what color Cleopatra was so we’re changing it, because it’s important that she’s black.” What interesting logic.
Also, “Egyptians need to start seeing themselves as black and stop perpetuating white supremacy.” So, so much wrong with this.
Them complaining about white supremacism is ironic in and of itself because a lot of afrocentrist beliefs are rooted in black supremacism.
Race hustling... Like communists, use one group to fight against another... Subversion.
We Egyptians learn in school that cleopatra and all the ptolemies came from Macedonia, Greece
If people rewrite history to make it diversity and inclusion, you’re not only insulting children’s intelligence but insulting survivors, world war heroes, historical figures and people who live in those countries
Literally spitting in the face of history and those who lived during those points
Exactly people fighted centuries for freedom but is important never forget your history bad or good cuz only then YOU can learn lesson from it
Maybe, just maybe if this "documentary" titled "We Wuzz Kangz the Movie",
Netflix dont have to facing this kind backlash
that's precisely why they are doing it.
you don't think the world came to be this way just by chance did you?
Also just erasing history and culture. Like you don’t make a film set in Asia, about Asian history and culture and have an all white cast. Egypt has a long history with European countries especially the Roman Empire, the city of Alexandria was very famous for its Greek, Roman AND Egyptian mix of culture and architecture and that’s what makes it so special. There is literal diversity already available in the time period this movie is set in but it’s not the diversity the people behind the film wanted smh
"I realized what a political act it would be..."
Aaaaaand there we have the REAL motivation behind all of this, folks. Straight from the horse's mouth.
Lmao that one got me too. If this was simply a documentary series about black queens, then it wouldn't be a very political endeavor. But she noted (quite dramatically) how political it was, indicating that this is not simply a documentary series about black queens, but in fact just a vessel for identity politics.
Mlp pfp ugh
It's so dumb. So push an agenda against a real culture/history of Egyptians.
Or when Jada said the show is not so much about Cleopatra but more about them. Then why tf didn't they just make up a fictional story? Art imitates life and there are tons of fictional stories inspired by real life historical events.
I’m Cypriot and I’m deeply offended of they’re doing and falsifying history but not only that they’re didn’t know she was Greek! Im glad people realized that too
My grandmother said she doesn’t care what teachers say Rosa parks is white
'As a child I thought is her skin tone right'
Show me one child, whose parents are not actively pushing their agenda on it, who thinks about these things.
Any child will only think how they can fly like Superman, shoot webs like Spiderman or blast kamehameha like Goku
childs who just discovered about egypt before: WOW so there are mummies?!
childs who discover about egypt now totaly not influenced by their parents: wow so what is her pronouns? is she melanine sister?
It was only as a teenager that I noticed all that as others droned on about it. Never really cared as a child as I had friends who were different races or skin tones without thinking about it. Even when accused in primary school by a pakistani teacher assistant who seemed to dislike white people for whatever reason. She was nowhere near us and somehow heard a child say "chocolate lollipop" which is apparently a slur. Even had a racist Scottish headteacher who was a horrible woman. Both prejudiced yet preached diversity. That was only the 2000s. It would be like me being a teacher in Japan and racially abusing them whilst everyone looks the other way. Very strange behaviour.
Well a child could wonder about the accuracy of history, it's not like we have videos of the distant past, written records may not be accurate. It's only natural to create and imagine things in our image. However when that woman stated that "I don't care what anyone says, Cleopatra was black" with such an ignorant amount of confidence- yeah I'd say they might have been a little influenced lol
I was skeptical about the fortune teller then she said something I liked and I immediately believed
Fortune teller said I would assemble the avengers, hasn’t happened yet she also said I would love to be 120 but we’ll see
Her argument that Egypt being black because it's in Africa is like saying Norwegians are olive skinned like people from the Mediterranean because they're both in Europe. These people are so dumb and ignorant and deny the truth because it doesn't make them feel right.
Have you looked at the various paintings and statues that depict dark and brown black people in ancient egypt? Are you aware of the fact that ancient greeks referred to ancient egyptians as black ? Are you aware that there are NUMEROUS black nations surrounding ancient egypt who have strong cultural ties with ancient egypt and they(Ancient ethopia and ancient nubia) have more cultural ties with ancient egypt than northern europe and even ancient greece
Are you also aware that Egyptian paintings and artifacts color common Egyptians as brown or red -skinned and then there were certain groups who are black colored people?
North Africans may have close cultural ties with other Africans near them but Egypt being very much closer to MiddleEast Asia than for example Ethiopia, it's not surprising to look differently from Sub Saharan or West Africans.
Try to to go around India or Middle East. You would realize that these people may share a certain part of their culture but their features may vary from North to South. In India alone, you'll see people who look Chinese in NorthEast, then see Black, African looking people in the South. You can actually do that in other regions in Asia.
@@athenstar10 there are red and black people. contrary to popular belief, we are not all blue black looking. the oldest African subpopulation is actually light brown.
Well northen Africa has been invaded by greeks, romans and Arabs, so yea Arabs populate Egypt now but Egypt was all black Africans prior to the Greek Freak Alexander
@@Pentazoid111 let me remind you that we are talking about Cleopatra, Egyptians didn't have the same insecurities about skin color as Americans but Cleopatra in particular is of Greek descent
She telling to entire nation how they should see their history and culture. Isnt it so called "god's complex"?
How ironic that she claims to be an activist for “people of color“ but when The same people are coming out and telling them that they are wrong, they simply ignore them. This woman is the definition of delusional. She’s not actually doing anything for the people she’s claiming to speak up for. She just doing it to make herself feel good. The Egyptian’s are straight up, telling her that she’s depicting one of their cultural figures wrong, but she’s refusing to hear them.
Man, I'm so happy that all Egyptians now know that they're Black. They know that their heritage is all Black. How kind that they now have Americans telling a whole culture what their history _actually_ is. They should be grateful, honestly
The current Egyptians have little in common with Ancient Egypt except for the Copts
You have to be completely ignorant or incredibly racist to believe the continent of Africa is only home to black people and stupid to believe it's a massive country. It's a culmination of various countries with various ethnicities and cultures much like South America is. If you sent an American to South Africa, they'd be surprised by all the white faces and likely be offended.
@@moderatecanuck Their history is still mixed with the region. As far as I can tell, modern Egyptians don't view themselves as Egypt+ and still value the history of the region
Admittedly, this is based on my little experience with modern Egyptians and the fact that a dude decided to sue American Netflix for culturally appropriating from an African/Middle Eastern/Mediterranean region
@@moderatecanuck That's not true
@@moderatecanuck culturally maybe, but genetically they're the same thing
When Elizabeth Taylor’s Cleopatra is more historically accurate than Netflix Cleopatra 😢
I still prefer the Amanda Barrie version
This is so hilarious. :D But ist TRUE :D :D :D
Bloody hell the Carry on films were more accurate
i know right?
@@DIDI.TITI777 Cleopatra was Greek Macedonian. At least the ancestry of Liz Taylor was from the correct continent.
here is the thing... the name "AFRICA" was used long before the the people's of sub-Sahara used it... the word Africa referred to North Africa... and North Africa was Greek, Jewish, and Roman...
It’s official - wokeness is a blight on this world.
Well given that white supremacy has actually resulted in the deaths of millions upon millions and is currently a threat to the planet. I’d say that white supremacy is a far more insidious and dangerous ideology.
How can you call it a reimagining when it's suppose to be a documentary
Because they are gas lighting us. They want to call it a documentary and when anyone crticizes it they will fall back to the "reimagined characters" line.
Rewriting history.
They cant. A documentary must be 100% accurate
@@stc3145 Should be accurate. Problem is if you look deeper into a lot of documentaries, they are one sided and trying to sell you a narrative. Often going to great lengths to show opposing views in the worst light possible if they are brought up at all.
Coz she’s a massive idiot
I like the part where Cleopatra orders her armies to storm the local Walmart.
Oooh honey, we gotta hit the Tar-jay next...
brooooo hahhaaaha i see what you have done there XD
Jewelry stores and weave stores. We all Cleopatra now.
they just can't behave but keep screaming about respect and reparation money
So glad you here to make clear what the real push back is about.
I am with Egipt, the nation just protect its own History.
Even her name is Greek: Κλεοπάτρα, and she was the 7th Cleopatra.
her mother was black name means nothing like you never see black named victor
@@subarashi-sama6309 her mother was black? How come? You do realise pharohs Married their sisters and Cleopatra’s ancestors were Macedonian Greeks - so white mediteranean. They intermarried. She’s also depicted on coins from that era and different statues of her from that period still exist. She doesn’t look black at all.
@@subarashi-sama6309 She was married to two of her brothers. Her family was as inbred as the Austrian Habsburgs. They stayed Greek
@@subarashi-sama6309to an idiot like you the name means nothing, to Greeks like Cleopatra and her family means “glory of the father”.
Maybe you wish to challenge our language as well? It is not black enough for you? 😅
@@subarashi-sama6309 We don't know who her mother was, but her father was Greek with some Persian.
....I remember reading the Royal Diaries as a kid.
Here's a list of the non-white/European princesses featured by the series
Nzingah - Angola
Kaiulani - Hawaii
Jahanara - India
Sondok - Soul Korea
Lady of the Ch'iao Kuo - China
Weetamo - New England (Massachusetts-Rhode Island)
Lady of Palenque - Mesoamerica, Mayan (southern Mexico region)
Anacaona - Haiti
Kazunomiya - Japan
As you can see the series features nine princesses of non-European lineage (Cleopatra VII was one of the first books but she's Greek so she's excluded). This book series was a GREAT way to introduce powerful historical women to tween girls.
OMG I remember this series!!! I read the Cleopatra one and also bits of the Elizabeth I one. Good times.
Wow so many stories they could've told and instead these maniacal SJW's choose to make a Tokenized, racist, and revisionist story. That's 1984 type bullshit.
I find it ironic these SJW's constantly winge and whine about racism and bigotry, and yet they are the most racist and bigoted people I have ever seen.
awesome, now I'm interested
they had these articles and reactions prepared before the show even came out. these things are planned for by these companies now.
Well I hope they love losing money too
It’s the new hollywood model to create buzz around their show or film. Controversy gets people interested. Not saying it’s right, but it’s what we’ve seen over the last 8 years
@@DONWASABIJUAN yep. eric bischoff said many years ago "controversy creates cash".
@@DONWASABIJUAN the fan baiting uses the same tactics
Exactly. And most of the fan backlash is all contrived
aw man, feels so good to hear you nailin it
The facts that world-famous Egyptologist Dr. Zahi Hawass went on to say that this director is full of it says a lot.😢
You think the Arabs that reside in Egypt was there before the conquest of the prophet Muhammad ?rather Egypt was conquered by the tongue or by the sword, from Muslims, those Muslims that reside there now are from Saudi Arabia they have no historical attachment to that enviroment prior to 700Ad
He’s a liar
Doctors and scientists do lie
Dr. Zahi Hawass is a European pawn for white supremacy, he is there to help white wash all of ancient Egypt...from the beginning. I heard they are there painting all the sculptures white, with old dyes they found in in The tomb of queen Nefertari they changed alots of the people's color on the walls...that's why when they close up a tomb, is because they are doing devilish mess when they find a tomb there...
@@reubencarver3434 Yeah, the world’s most eminent Egyptologist is a “liar.” 🤣
Let’s see you back that one up buddy. 🤣
Dear Miss Director, Egyptians know full well that they're Africans. They also know that not all Africans are black.
But do they know that Egypt being a transcontinental country, they're also Asian?
We have different shades but all black.
Stealing a room in somebody's house doesn't make you apart of their family.
The Ancient Egyptians were black, though. Artistic representations from The Golden Age of Ramesses II's reign clearly depict both the nobility and martial classes (the ruling castes) as being of Nubian skin-shade. Such can be seen on their painted hieroglyphics, illustrated pottery & funerary sculptures of the age. Additionally, DNA tests from Ramesses III & his heir reveal obvious haplotype mimicry between their lineage and Niger-Congo ethnicities.
Adding unto this even more, Herodotus himself outright states that the Egyptians were indistinguishable from the Colchians & Ethiopians in terms of skin color; going as far as to outright call them "of black-skin, woolly-hair & thickened lips."
Ultimately, Egyptologist Stuart Tyson Smith sums it up best in the 2001 Oxford Dictionary of Ancient Egypt; "Any characterization of race of the ancient Egyptians depends on modern cultural definitions, not on scientific study. Thus, according to modern American standards it is reasonable to characterize the Egyptians as 'black', while still acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical diversity of Africans."
Like I keep saying, how modern "egyptians" feel about factual historical context is of relatively little importance.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no was Nazlet Khater black?
@@codyasterix7421 Repeat a lie enough times…..
Netflix also a couple of years ago, promoted the movie "Cuties," which is basically underage pornography. So, I'm not surprised that Netflix is still doing dumb crap.
they don't care until, this so called fake history show gets cancelled
As almost three years ago they released this trash.
These people need to get some grip.... It is ridiculous to be so delusional and entitled at the same time
Of course she's not backing down. This is episode 1 of entire series. If you think this is crazy wait for what's next.
In that case the whole series should be scrapped.
black hitler?
More literal terrorism, racism and discrimination from a stupid "collor'd" woke, satanic bitch.
Everything and everyone woke is a demented cunt.
Black Stalin, if you claim this isn't historically accurate you go to Gulag.
One episode? No it’s one whole season. You won’t be able to dispute the African Queen that is featured in it
Let us not forget the abomination Netflix did by portraying the long golden-haired, blue- eyed Achilles, as a totally shaven head-bold black-skinned man! I was really outraged then !
That was the worst version of war of troy I have seen. Even that movie was better because it focused on the political aspect of the war. That show was just ancient "Popcorn".
And not just Achilles, multiple race swaps in the same show.
And you know what's worst about it? While too busy to blackwash Achilles, they totally ignored an actual black hero, king Memnon of Aethiopia, a renowned warrior. Some respect and inclusion of black people there, really!
@@irena4545 They probably left him out because he got killed by Achilles. A few years ago, i had uploaded the comic book adaptation of the Trojan War by Marvel and i left Memnon's part out because i was afraid that my videos would be deleted because of " racism ". There's no reasoning with those SJWs.
WE WUZ ACHILLES N SHIEEET
It's been a long time since I've been left speechless. My god, the absolute audacity and arrogance of this woman, who has no relationship to Egypt at all, thinking she has any right to tell Egyptians how they should feel about the portrayal of their own history.
Edit: Also, the fact that her and the production already got backlash during shooting shows they knew Egyptians weren't happy with this a long time and they didn't care. I would bet everything I have that they thought, because of the current political climate in the US, that their US audience in particular wouldn't care that they're misrepresenting history and would simply celebrate a 'black Queen'. They underestimated their audience and once again showed that race-swapping is nothing but performative pandering.
And yet I frequently see people in YT videos or comments saying that "Race swapping is harmless or not woke agenda" or "anything with a gay or black person is automatically woke to these people".
My god, the absolute audacity and arrogance of you to make these statements as if you are familiar with her ancestry. How do you know she doesn’t have a connection to Ancient Egypt? What substantiating evidence do you have to support your claims?
Modern Egyptians, do not have the right to prohibit someone from exploring ancient Egyptian history based on looks, a false narrative regarding an individual’s ancestry or a mistaken belief that ancient Egyptians are only the ancestors of modern Egyptians. They are the ancestors of the entire modern population. Egypt wasn’t in some bubble. Being angry about someone portraying an individual from a group they descend from is comical.
I have a quip that "I just don't have enough sarcasm for this" when something is s absurd, so comedic in itself that I just can't come up with any derision or humor that can add to it. Yeah, it just leaves you speechless.
@@limonesycafe8898 This is a documentary, not a work of fiction. So it should be based on the knowledge we have. Which includes coins with the image of her face, her insanly inbred Greek family and every writen piece mentioning her being Greek 🤦🏻♀️
The world does in exist in black and white only. Such an American view on it. Most of shades in between the two. Greek people are usually more tan than Norther Europeans, but they are still European. Northern African people are not black black, super dark skin just because its in Africa. Having actually been to Norther n Africa, its such a stupid thing for people to claim. Even more stupid when people claim to know better than the people who's actually FROM Egypt.
@@limonesycafe8898 people care about facts. Surprise!?! 😮
"bulletproof shield that is identity politics"
as a wise man named tank fish once said: "nothing is bulletproof if you shoot it enough times"
Somehow in her "Research" she skipped the 8 generations of incest in the dynasty.
Not to mention the Greek upper class did not mix with the Egyptians. Nor did the traditional Egyptians want to mix with Greeks. There was an administrative class that was mixed, living mostly in the Fayum, but the royal family was far above them.
Hopefully Egypts lawyer wins, it will set a "Past Precedence", and could start a chain of lawsuits in the future for similar reason.
@@codyasterix7421 I'm a professional Egyptologist. You do NOT know what you are talking about. Egyptians are by majority not Arabs. Even though their government and religion changed with the Islamic Conquest of the Seventh Century, the Egyptians, with few exceptions, did not intermarry with their Arab conquerors. Today's population is largely made up of direct descendants of the ancient Egyptians. Cleopatra VII herself was Macedonian Greek, a direct descendant of one of Alexander the Great's successful generals, Ptolemaios, who became known to history as Ptolemy I Soter, the founder of the Ptolemaic Dynasty. The last ruler Cleopatra was the only one in her family who even learned Egyptian.
@@dlperk5035 so that would mean that ancient Egyptian’s aren’t black then? And would be brown?
Because of all the paintings and everything that we have, they definitely do not look sub-Saharan African.
@@dlperk5035 You're a professional Egyptologist???...what studies or field work have you contributed to? what archeological facilities, institutions, colleges or universities are you affiliated with?
I'll wait...
Two things:
1. After everything Jada has done to Will, I won't support anything she touches
2. Not even Batman and Sherlock Holmes combined couldn't track the mental gymnastics these people are doing 😂
Just cause a country is in Africa means the citizens are black
That means arabic people are black with this logic
@@yareyaredaze3798 after hearing that dialogue of hers, I think I lost all my brain cells
Will is a grown ass man, he did it to himself . Jada sucks though regardless
Will made his bed, let him and his wife sleep in it.
@LemonBar I don’t think he can deal with the consequences of those decisions.
THE entitlement of Neflix is sickening, telling Egyptians their story. Egypt Speak up!!!!
I totally agree with your video, I am so tired of people trying to change actual history. Netflix needs to be done, so sick of these false narratives.
Hey man, how's your Oxford Diplom in Egyptian history? 😂😂
@@Reflux9are you black? Why are you defending lies? Why are defending changing history? Are you stupid? Uneducated? There is a reason why Egyptians are mad at this documentary. Black Americans are taking it too far, like this director Jada Pinkett Smith. Don’t lie, don’t change history. Cleopatra ain’t black. She was Greek. Basic knowledge. Ask your museum about ancient Egypt
@@Reflux9 Muh diploma.
@@Reflux9uhh, diploma, you need diploma 🤡
Where's yours?
I think there was this group in 30s Germany that revisioned history for political purposes.
It's impressive how much this director doesn't know about history despite making a series based on historical events.
she FEELS a connection though. That trumps any facts you might produce.
You think the Arabs that reside in Egypt was there before the conquest of the prophet Muhammad, rather Egypt was conquered by the tongue or by the sword, from Muslims, those Muslims that reside there now are from Saudi Arabia they have no historical attachment to that enviroment prior to 700ad
The "right side of history" people only care about revisionist history.
It's Depressing frankly....
I believe she's just very Pro Black at the sake of other cultures she's linking being AFRICAN to being BLACK!!!
@@caramelbilqueeseven though the person is not even Egyptian.. she was Greek!
Being born in Egypt doesn’t change your ethnicity. And for god shake, they were conquerors, her family were foreign rulers, not Egyptians.
Imagine saying we should use our imagination in a docuseries
Good on the Egyptian lawyer. British lawyers should sue the makers of the black Anne Boleyn that is an outrage
The ultimate English rose portrayed by a black actress.
If I had a nickel for everytime one of these "woke" newage people talk down to the people they claim to champion I'd be a millionaire. Equity Conquistadors are at it again.
Yes , they are patronising beyond belief .
If I had a nickel for every time I've tried to do a Phineas and Ferb "if I had a nickel" joke and screwed it up, o'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
Why did they make woman king when the anglo-zulu war existed? They actually put up a fight before being conquered. Also rorkes drift existed
"was her skin really that white?"
YES.
YES ACCORDING TO LATEST DNA STUDIES...YES.
with red hair! According to Roman artifacts depicting her
And that's neat I love that I do not like what they're doing
@@joangordoneieio So another redhead got erased? Gingercide is real!
@@lekhaclam87 Watch them make the Weasleys in the new Harry Potter TV series Black
@@himanshugamre3918 watch as they take my history The American Civil War And turn it on its head
"I don't care what anyone says- Cleopatra was black."
Yes, this quote oozes 're-imagined'
Cleopatra was white with a darker skin tone Director is 100% wrong.
Next were going to see Morgan freeman as Winston Churchill
I've been telling my friends how bad this crap has been getting for a few years now. They didn't really take me seriously until recently, with one making a complete 180 from indifference and denial to outright pissed. The veil has been lifted, and he's angry.
One of my other close friends is still largely in denial. Even she is having a hard time justifying this blackwashing.
You need to tell them that this is NOT Diversity, this is Tokenism, it's wrong, disingenuous and disgusting.
Show them the netflix series that blackwashed English kings and queens.
The director is so wrong because it's not the fans fault but it is their fault that it all happen and for making egypt black for a wrong reason.
Director is probably a narcissistic fool.
"What bothers you so much about Cleopatra being black?"
What bothered you so much about Elizabeth Taylor's Cleopatra being white? And that wasn't even a documentary.
Elizabeth Taylor’s cleopatra was awesome
Cleopatra was niether white nor black. She was BROWN.
@@aaryan_B055 she was greek
@@davefletch3063 She was brownish or darker olive to moderate brown, typical Mediterranean skin tones.
@@ToFester yes. She had a tan, like most Greeks. Like most whites