No One Has Heard Of Evolution | Talk Heathen 06.47
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- Talk Heathen 06.47 for November 20, 2022 with ObjectivelyDan and Forrest Valkai LIVE at the Freethought Library
David from CA wants to give the hosts a chance to prove evolution since no one has ever heard of it in history.
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Maybe the most-scientically-illiterate caller that I have ever heard. And he is so proud as well.
People like David need to be in school, not church!
Well he did disprove the Big Bang theory - well he said he could.....
He is a repeat caller. Ook Eek the librarian have links to all five calls. They are all as stupid. Then he shows up in the comment section even more smug and stupid.
He's so wrong he can't even explain how wrong he is from his smugness, his little arrogant laugh pissed me off so much.
@@freddan6fly does he use the same name?
"Do you believe in history?"
"Things have happened, yes" 😂
The question was so laughable, its amazing an adult came up with this.
lol after that question you know it’s going to go down hill from there 😂
Do you believe in math ? Uhh sorta
That sums up the caller's baseline understanding on just about any topic (under heaven (LOL)).
I do your comment is a year old.
David is offensively ignorant.
And he votes. Scary
He's also ignorantly offensive...
Fuck I hate religion.
He’s a smug idiot.
@@revwillyg6450 If they banned all god pretenders from voting! USA would be a much better place!
The fact, that jelly fish survived without a brain 500 millions years, give me hope for human race.
But not for the caller.
Its people like him that take me back to thw time where eugenics was a thing
And I bet everything I have, that they will go on and outlast us by many millions.
Washington DC must be run by Jellyfish
Jellyfish don't swim around judging others
“I don’t know as much about cosmology as a cosmologist or an astrophysicist but I can still refute the Big Bang” might be my favorite Quote of all time
Ah kin argue jus’ laaik muh pastor: hold mah beer, cuz! 😂
Not too different from me. I can't refute intelligent design, but I can make a pretty good case against sober design.
I'm going to start using this snippet of the video to illustrate the Dunning-Kruger Effect to my students.
I mean I'm not a theologist but I can refute the bible so...
And he didn't wanna say he knew more then Forrest about biology and then went on to tell him how it was all wrong and he knew better then everyone.
Remember: David can breed and his vote counts just as much as yours does.
Sad truth😢
Scary shit !!
These moments make me think about epistemocracy.
If he’s from california like he says, his vote most certainly doesn’t count as much as anyone in a swing state. California will always go democratic, doesn’t matter what David’s personal vote is for.
…and perhaps even more terrifying, David is driving an automobile at 75mph right beside us on the highway
What happens when unstoppable logic meets an immovable delusion? David turns into a child.
yeah but, what if I laugh at you when my own ignorance is exposed? What then Peaody? What then?
@@uncleanunicorn4571
Then you are sat in the corner laughing to yourself and having zero effect on anyone here.
David has always been a child.🤤
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. Corinthians 13:12
Trouble is, David doesn’t think he has any childish things to put away. When a child refuses to grow up it turns into a fool.
Not child, toddler. David turns into a smug toddler.
This is one of many reasons why Christianity is a blight on everyone.
Well, some Christians actually accept evolution. The Catholic Church does. It doesn't excuse their purposeful ignorance of other things though.
@@richardpratt3091I’m glad the Catholic Church accepts evolution but I wish they’d stop raping all those children
Family Guy long ago wore out its welcome, but that one cutaway where hot-meg walks down the street in the advanced atheist society that was never held back by religion...
@@richardpratt3091 The same people who believe in transmutation of flesh. Yeah...
Not just christianity, but religion in general.
It's so cute how Forrest talks to these callers like they're actually listening
To be fair, even if they're not, the audience is. So I think that's mainly why. 👍
and with a big smile on his face too.
Forrest teaches in classes, don't he? So he is most likely with stubborn ignorance or clever clogs.
What?
I don’t understand what you are saying.
@@christianblevins3802 Obviously he is most likely with stubborn ignorance or clever clogs... What don't you understand about this fundamental truth?
David has been spared the ravages of intelligence.
And yet he still believes he is. LOL
That is one of the best observations I have EVER read! A gem 💎
LOL
Some of these people border on what is unethical to put on air
I don't know if David is a Christian, but I do know if he is, God doesn't base going to heaven on how smart you are or if you are super intelligent. For God so loves the 🌎
"No recorded history of Adam either."😂😂😂 Ya gotta love Forrest.
Yeah, that was swift. 😃👍
The History is recorded in the Bible . I guess you can't read?
@@timsmith530 I highly doubt a collection of Bronze Age myths and folklore constitutes as historical documentation. There's a reason the Bible isn't used as a textbook in History classes.
@@timsmith530 do you think history is recorded in comic books, too?
@@timsmith530 Idiot
Forrest: "We're fucking things up for other species."
David: "So you admit the world is made for us!"
What the hell...
Proof that the 'first tool' is David (Apologies to rocks).
sounds like any internet discussion I ever had
Humans genuinely are the worst invasive species lmao
What the hell DAVID!😂😂😂
David has a half-life and a brain to match
How someone can be so proud and arrogant about knowing so little is truly astounding.
It's called the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
Those who know the least are the most proud of their ignorance, while those who are knowledgeble are humbled by the the the known and unknown.
This ignorant have the most pride of all because they have no fucking clue how little they know.
Dunning-Kruger is an EPIDEMIC almost as big and widespread as Covid.
Because stupid idiots are often proud of their insanity.
I love how his cocky, self-assured chuckle slowly turns into panicked laughter when he realizes (at least subconsciously) how woefully unprepared he is
I'm not convinced David ever came to that realization.
@@clit_niblr0375 Agreed. David is not self aware.
@@phxsunfan You know that joke people make about only having two neurons? He's a literal example of that
HE doesn't believe in neurons so they must not exist, because he lives in his own world what he says must be true
@@tristanmisja Or,...two brain cells, one says shitm,....the other says eat...
"can you please define evolution?"
*aaaaaannd we lost David*
True. He didn't want any part of actually knowing something.
"Can you define Radiometric Dating"? Now David has both feet stuck in the mud, and the tide is coming in!
lost david and all braincells in the process while listening to him...
Yes that was disappointing. I was on the edge of my seat.
"Believing in evolution is like believing in Santa Claus". Says a man who believes in talking snakes
and talking donkeys......
Even more apt for him is ;
'Says a man who believes in a cosmic Santa Claus'
Gifts/blessings for the good kids. Coal/curses for rebellious kids.
David is an example of why we need a good strong public education system and no private edumakaytion.
We don't need no education!
@@ilmt - Another Brick In The Wall (Pink Floyd)
I wonder if David is the results of Home education....
congratziolations on your cowrect asner!
@@bunnykiller I'm not sure but at least some of his education was in Argentina, I believe English is a second language for him.
_"I know what 'radioaction' [sic] . . . mumble mumble [tails off] "_
The stupidity, it burns, it burns.
That is so true. David wasnt just willfully ignorant, he was actually stupid.
David's ignorance burns 🔥 my ass too. Put him in a corner and his defense is to laugh and change the topic. Doesn't work here.
The reason he denies evolution is because it hasn’t happened to him yet.
@@margaretbarrett6087 Evolution has happened to David. It's just that he lacks the self awareness to recognize it. Notice at 0:39, where he admits to avoiding crowds because of natural selection's effects on a common virus.
David is so lucky to be able to go through life entirely unencumbered by knowledge or doubt.
just as you. Do you doubt evolution?
@@matterasmachine No I don't doubt; there is no doubt that evolution is a fact.
@@kingspeechless1607 So you are the blind believer. Why do you expect others to be different from you? Are you special? The Chosen? Did you create evolution yourself or just blindly believed it? Guys, sorry, but you are so dumb. What if evolution IS creation?
@@matterasmachine You are just trying to attack me; that is not the way to debate. Pick the bones out of my response; you cannot deny that things evolve; it is an observable fact (as your comments appear to accept), just as 'gravity' is an observable fact (unless you are a flat earther). The point is that we have scientific theories (which are the highest order of evidence in science) to explain how gravity works and as I said before we have a Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. That is what you need to attack to see if you can refute it; that is how science works!
Even if you were able to refute the theory it would not automatically mean your alternative was the 'how,' you still have to provide evidence and demonstrate it can stand up to attempts to prove it wrong. Just saying "What if evolution IS creation?" is neither here nor there; if you want to make the claim then you have a lot of work to do; I have seen so-called 'scientific evidence' put forward by 'creationist scientists' for elements of creationism and they are not fooling anybody so far; they really need to up their game!
@@kingspeechless1607 debates are when parties have equal rights. It’s not debate when you have privileges. I’m not attacking anybody. If you don’t doubt - you are blind believer. That’s it. Things don’t evolve, they are being created. Eye can not evolve when eye does not exist yet. It has to be created first. Debates are actually useless. I have a model of god and it gives predictions that can be checked.
His little chuckes every time he was asked a question made my blood boil
Me too. Fckn dummy is incapable of an intelligent thought. It’s like talking to a dog.
Same 😅
See it as confirmation of his lack of understanding
ITS SO GROSS TOO.
Honestly it just says to me that he *thinks* he knows more than he does and isn’t willing to entertain conflicting views.
There are millions upon millions of people like David among us. Be afraid, be very afraid.
🤣😂
And they vote.
They vote. 😱
They breed.
And they are spread worldwide
The little laughs are so fucking infuriating. The nerve of this guy. I do not know how the hosts stay so calm.
Those laughs are a tell. When he's got nothing to respond with, he laughs. They're a sign he's lost.
It's a nervous tick laugh
Because he's a Dunning-Kruger poster child and they pity his absolute lack of intellectual substance. It's equivalent to getting mad at a two year old for calling you a "poo poo head".
It sounds like the giggle WLC used to do when people pointed out his 'intuitive claims' are not obvious and he still has to finish his homework.
brain addled hyena boy....
I used to work seasonally at a Christian summer camp when I was in college and I met a lot of great friends but never told them I was an atheist. One day I asked one buddy about dinosaurs for whatever reason and with a straight and serious face he said, "the dinosaurs are never mentioned in the bible, they weren't real" and that really opened my eyes how ignorant and detached from reality the theist is.
Still not as insane as the theists who claim dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark 😂😂😂😂. How do you get dinosaurs on an ark when no hominid species ever existed with dinosaurs?
@@jackwhitbread4583 They were just babies on the ark so they could fit better, and the Bible describes a sauropod when it says "moves its tail like a cedar".
That's what the creationist will tell you
I heard one say the bones were planted by the devil to test her faith.🤔🙄🤔😳🤔😩
@@Mehki227 They will make up any old nonsense to make their beliefs unfalsifiable. Using the same logic you could literally argue for anything, no matter how absurd
_"The bible doesn't mention dinosaurs, those were dragons"_
Due to Poe's Law, I have to clarify that the above is a real creationist claim.
I love how these people praise themselves for their humility, all while telling biologists, cosmologists, chemists, astronomers, etc., are wrong.
Ignorance is bliss. 😂
@@frankvee honestly, I don’t expect it to feel very blissful if you truly believe every smart person is lying to you about reality.
@@Mmmmilo I don't think theists consider those people to be very smart, or they see them as just wrong about this particular topic, or that they've been deceived. Many are pretty arrogant about it, feeling as if they know the truth and you just don't get it.
David is the perfect product of society ..a star student of indoctrination and brainwashing... I bet if u told him the truth about the annunaki and spoon fed him science ...he still wudnt change his view... He suffers cognitive dissonances.. He is to scared to denie god....he is nuttin more than a fool and nutting less than meat
Forrest: Gives a detailed, thorough explanation that completely refutes David's point.
David: "You're just making my point."
Forrest: "What did I say that you think confirmed your point?"
David: "I...you...well...PH levels"
😂
Hey! He recognized the word - that counts as an achievement and complete confirmation of his point, right?
He's not original at all. He's regurgitating all those lame tactics we all heard before. He acts like it's clever. 😂😂
All they have are half-remembered talking points and failed 'gotchas'.
Reminds me of my ex-husband.
A wise man said " If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religion".
Really? What a stupid statement.
YES
@@PanglossDr I rest my case.
@@PanglossDrYou just proved the statement.
really? because science proves biblical events, my fellow youtube user
Also, religion (Christianity) is just a relationship with God along with loving others (as seen in James 1:27)
I love the way Forrest makes every answer a training exercise. He is truly a teacher at heart.
This guy is a perfect example of the saying that a little knowledge (combined with decades of indoctrination) is a dangerous thing.
I saw no trace of knowledge.
He had negative knowledge
What knowledge does he even have ?
I think he is a troll
He just doesn't want to give up his magical sky binky. It provides him comfort when he needs to curl up in the fetal position and pretend an invisible god will take care of him. We should be the ones laughing - if it weren't so sadly pathetic.
I am endlessly entertained by people who say things like “I can refute evolution,“ or “I can refute the big bang theory,“ and then go on to say something that has been said and refuted thousands of times by thousands of others.
If they would take just a few minutes to go on the Internet they would find out that what they are saying is nothing new, or useful, or intelligent.
They don't care. Most of them got these arguments from videos where they were refuted.
When you TRULY don’t care if what you say is true then you can be a narcissist who assumes he knows everything.
Look Up Gregor Mendel he was a biologist he proved that evolution is impossible you learned about him probably in high school biology he’s in every science book look him up and see what you think evolutions dead. If you would like more information just ask I’ll send it to you
The interwhat?? internet? Nobody in history has heard of that. Its not in the bible. So there is no internet.
@@AzathothTheTrueGod Yep, it's called "Trumping yourself."
Forrest/Dan: No system is perfect.
David: Systems are perfect.
Forrest/Dan: No, no system is perfect.
Dan: You said that systems are perfect.
There's no arguing with people like David. They don't listen.
I don't think he's well.
Weirdest is that I believe he wanted to argue about the "assumption" of radiometric dating being constant and not having changed in the past (guess it could be said it's "perfect" in this sense), possibly wanting to point out the likelihoods of non-conformities and corrupted sampling but his brain short-circuited at that moment.
They don't listen, they don't think, and they refuse to do any actual research of their own. Creationists are philosophical zombies.
I sometimes wonder about my own intelligence and then somebody like David comes along and I realise I'm not that dumb
Based on the Dunning-Kruger effect the fact you questioned your intelligence means there's a good chance you are reasonably intelligent. It's also the reason David thinks he's so smart
I'm sure that David and his family sit around talking about whether or not species change around them. "Dad, did the deer look any different to you today?" "No son, they don't."
Exactly what I pictured, as well!
Makes me wonder if any of them have ever had a dog as a pet. Evolution has happened in front of our eyes, wolves are now labradors, sheepdogs and bulldogs. Each with their own distinct characteristics after just a few generations of selective breeding.
@@timothybrown5999 - People like David typically don't consider that to be evolution. They want to see a fish turn into a 47 year old accountant.
@@loki2240 to be fair, some of them do seem to be a little... fishy at times...yeah
@@loki2240 😂😂
David did an outstanding job of showing that he is completely ignorant of everything he is trying to argue about.
And is completely unwilling to listen to reason.
The best argument against creationist thinking is creationists themselves when they open their mouths. They cannot help themselves from exposing their ignorance and illogical rhetoric.
Anyone else notice the callers constant smug little laugh like the hosts were so dumb, deluded, and beneath him? Every time the hosts brought out a bombshell, he'd laugh and deflect and switch to a different topic, eventually breaking down into anger when the hosts refused to play his little game or concede his "facts".
Absolutely my take on it also.
This is a talking strategy that is actually written and handed out among white supremacists, right wing pundits and conservative christian groups. Keep making statements, when the other side starts to refute your statements change to a related (sometimes very tangentially related) topic and make another statement. To the casual observer it will seem like they are winning because the person is always on the attack and the other side makes a partial defense then switches to make another partial defense against another statement. It works with casual observers because they tend to agree with the person who seems the most confident. In places like a court it fails spectacularly because the person has to validate their assertions but they only really worry about winning in the court of public opinion.
Yeah, initially I didn't really see where the laugh came from (I listened to the vid), but as soon as I looked at the screen and heard that laugh I realized it was coming from David-the-dumbass. Sooooo condescending, and to be honest I would have ended the call there. You wanna call in and show how stupid you are? Sure, go right ahead. But don't act like you're all high-and-mighty with a laugh like that when you're not even capable of holding an honest discussion.
Like when he said "that's like believing in Santa Claus", not realizing he just broke the world record for irony.
Or he’s a troll, pleased with how well he’s playing the role.
He giggles like a child while he spews forth his ignorance.
His Giggles to show how ignorant he is. They asked him a question he laughs and then tries to speak, because he doesn't know how to answer the questions even though he supposedly knows it all.
Chucklehead. His giggling is a sure sign that he's an ignoramus.
Quantum mechanics has proven God can't not exist. It's been shown, atheist. Why you ppl hate God's so much!!!!
@@Mewse1203yup.. the definition of the dunning Kruger
Sad and pathetic individual. Ignorance is bliss apparently..
I'm going to name David's smug laughter the Dunning Kruger Chuckle
01 that we're supposed to be evolutionary cousins to and they're examining the dna here and looking at fossils and the layer that's added to this one is that rather than just looking at the dna they're looking at the dna and then correlating that to some of the morphological structures the shape of the bones and see if they can find any connections between those and a bit of a fascinating way to think about this this is the first one that's been done that way and the conclusions are very interesting especially if we start thinking about these from a biblical perspective that's right so for a long time as creationists we've been saying that neanderthals and humans are you know they're neanderthals are human it's fully human you know the secular world has gone back and forth as classifying them as homo neanderthalensis or homo sapien neanderthal instances whether it's a different subspecies or different species and we've said all along they're fully human and what this study shows is that most
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Are humans descendants of neanderthals|Tim Chaffey, and Rob Webb
@@raysalmon6566
Punctuate much?
@@JB-yb4wn Punctuate much?
Evidence that you read it😂
@@raysalmon6566
Well, no. I just looked at it and thought that if someone is so ignorant of the basic fundamentals of grammar, then that person really has nothing to say that could be of any importance to anyone.
By the way, there is a period after the word "it", as that word ends a sentence.
@@JB-yb4wn do you really think social media cares about punchuation and spelling
David turns up to a battle of knowledge unarmed
Unlike a previous David, who quite possibly isn't mythical, who was armed with one of the deadliest missile weapons known in the days of Goliath.
If the story is true, as it easily might be, Goliath hadn't a chance. A sling is NOT what the USA calls a slingshot. it is a loop of fabric in which the slinger gives a very high speed to a stone, and releases it at the instant that it will hurtle and hit the target.
@@jacksimpson-rogers1069what’s the point tho? A dude may have killed a way bigger dude w a sling, sure and that story may be based on a real character.. ummm ok? Sure.. why not.. Now if you ask me if there’s any evidence of divine intervention? Nope not at all..
David called to make someone look foolish - mission accomplished
I was reading through the comments whilst trying to think of something smart and funny to say and I read yours. The irony here is it's taking me waaaay longer to congratulate you on the best comment I read then your comment ever did. Thank you for being funny and concise. That looks like British sarcasm to me and I love it. Well done.
David is a perfect poster child for Dunning-Kruger effect.
More like a brainwashed kid
Him: I don’t believe in modern science
His TVs, his phone his car: *all cease to exist*
I wish.
What would he do if he got seriously ill or injured. Does he want to go to a church or a hospital? A hospital is 'Science'.
@@MrCanis4 that’s what all of these “true” believers should be doing. Not a single Jew, Christian, Muslim or any of them should ever go to a medical doctor. They should all be seeking out at least one friend and a priest and should be able to pray away any ailment. They should be able to pray for long distance communication instead of needing a cell phone. I can go on and on
This dick walks into a dark room, flicks on the light and thinks jesus did it.Mythled git.
If an aneurysm was a person it would be David. Forrest & Dan are by far the most patient hosts ever.
Matt would have cussed David out way before! They have soooo much patience for fools
LOL
I really love Forrest, he has a knack for teaching, so he goes out of his way to listen to what the other side has to say and tries to work his way forward from there.
King David vs Private Gump and LT Dan. Kudos to their patience! 😅
One of the greatest ironies is arrogance based on ignorance. This guy is a great example.
Arrogance based on ignorance is Ken Hamm.
@@johnsperry9494Exactly, he's a shameless con man who has been using logical fallacies to lure people into his bubble.
textbook Dunning and Kruger effect
It’s a real reminder that guys like David still exist, clearly a nice guy, with a stunning level of ignorance, and that is bliss. Just don’t sell him a gun license!
Or let him operate heavy machinery.
Not nice. Fairly polite, but doesn't listen, laughs condescendingly, puts words in their mouths and is arrogantly proud of being ignorant.
I don't need no license! Gun licenses aren't in the Bible...oh, wait (thought David, never).
hehehehe heh...🤫 You are just proving my point. 🤗 heuh heuh 🤪 Its all science fiction. HAH hah haha.
David is awesome. Mentioning science fiction while believing in fantasy. It's all connected!
Someone needs to throw him a line before the quicksand swallows him up!
@@arthurhunt642
No worries - one cannot sink any further if one is already at the bottom.
The only problem is how proud the guy is of his inadequate education! He is either a really great troll or a really pitiful victim of religious indoctrination. I mean he denies the most robust physical facts - you would need to try and use a lot of energy to stay this uneducated in the modern world!
And this is why I believe an aptitude test should be required in order to vote, or have children...
Could it be possible that this David is actually some friend they got to call and sound this screwy? Surely, no one is this ignorant.
@@jimvenizelos4649 Haven't been around much, have you?
I can’t think of a conversation I’ve witnessed between an atheist and a theist that didn’t devolve into the theist tying themselves in knots to explain their beliefs.
Neither can I. I've had dozens if not hundreds of conversations with theists and watching their mental gymnastics when you bring science, reason, facts, or especially when you point out contradictions in the bible is just stunning.
I admire the hosts for keeping calm on this call. David's superior little chuckle would've had me shouting.
He was a smart ass little bitch. There,- I said it for Matt! Matt is still here with us in spirit...Wish we could say that about God.
I would have hung up. Such a smug laugh.
I noticed that as well. Honestly though it’s likely a defense mechanism.
Dave’s brain is experiencing that very uncomfortable cognitive dissonance that we formerly-indoctrinated are all too familiar with.
It’s really hard to break through that feeling, especially when you’ve been told your whole life that, “your faith WILL be tested and standing adamant in your position is OBJECTIVELY morally good.”
@@arthurhunt642Matt would have blown a goddamn gasket. Lol
He's lucky Matt Dilahunty wasn't on😂
He proved to me that magic is real. He has a god tier protective force field around his brain protecting himself from understanding that he's wrong.
David reminds me of a George Eliot quote: "When imbecility ceases to be meek, it becomes simply odious."
I was 8 years old when I read the Bible and thought to myself "that doesn't make any sense" then I asked my mom for explanations and she couldn't come up with answers for most of the things I asked. So I just stopped believing right then and there. My dad was an atheist, but he never talked to us about it before we were older.
That's what happened to me when I was 12. Sitting down and reading the bible was a slog, but skipping over the entire pages of just family histories and whatnot, the juicy bits, oh wow. Decided to not take part.
I knew Noah's Ark was bullshit the first time I heard it and it just went downhill from there.
I never had a real thought about religion/god until my mother thought it would be a good idea if I got confirmation classes as a Lutheran. 1959 Jr. HS. I read the bible and thought it was no different than Greek mythology. It has the same level of evidence. Tada! Atheist!
@@johnflesner8086 Objection! Greek mythology is cool though and doesn't tell you how to live)
@@Vladimir_Fedorov27 Sure it does. It gives you parables on the decisions you make.
David proves that you can never be wrong if you never answer a question.
@studio732jrl2 Or, and this is just a suggestion, you learn the difference between a joke and an assertion.
Ah, the art of politics
yup he's a moron, the earth is older than the sun ? a great example of the lack of public education in America
The corollary to, 'it isn't a lie if you believe it".
I'm a former biology teacher with a degree in vertebrate evolution and I've had conversations similar to this for years. The other person fades out while you're doing your best to be clear and informative for the time you have, and they reply with literal nonsense. Good on you guys for being so calm
the 'fading out' is a symptom of low IQ. It is analogous to an older computer running out of RAM. The capacity is simply not there.
@George Poniris I am going to assume that you are 'Muricun...
Yeah. SO MUCH religiosity idiocy in YOUR country. There is some in Canada as well but nowhere NEAR what you have in the US.
The majority of people who are biblical literalist either send their kids to a parochial or other religion supported school or homeschool them. The curriculum that they use is almost always some biblical oriented tripe from the US.
I don't know how the latter get away with that. EVERY CHILD is supposed to have the core curriculum as set down by the jurisdiction in which they live. Other addition elements can be added but not to the detriment of the core material. That may be true in the private schools because it is monitored by oversight bodies. The homeschooling though... dunno. I have a set of four nephews who were schooled in this fashion. The two older ones finished "high school" with far less education than a public school kid. The two younger ones... coming on about the same. One of the older ones managed to get some decent post sec education and has a career. The other one... not so much. I feel for these kids who are hampered because of their parent's lack of understanding... and WANT of understanding.
@@rickkwitkoski1976 Unfortunately, we have people here who are so far up their own asses about freedom, that they think a standardized curriculum is a bad thing. Their response to such it is that the government shouldn't dictate what is taught to our children. It's all so goddamn stupid, because a non standardized system is what causes people like David here.
@@rickkwitkoski1976 many victims of school shootings wished they home schooled. Remember it’s the curriculum given by the state, not the teachers fault so much.
@@mikesmith1181 lol, good analogy!
If you can disprove evolution, turn in your paperwork and collect your Nobel Prize.
Eeeeexactly!! One a these nutters would at the very least be famous af if they could SHOW the truthfulness of their claim that the theory of evolution by natural selection is “false”
This caller is the perfect example of what faith truly is. Faith, in the religious sense, is believing without reason or evidence. If people like this had reasons and/or evidence, they’d present that.
It's worse than that. Religion is not only accepting without evidence, it's willfully dismissing any evidence.
It could also be an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He has just enough information to think he knows what he's talking about, but not enough information to realize he doesn't, in fact, know what he's talking about.
All of the above
David clearly knows what radiometric dating is. He just wants to make sure Forrest knows what it is. Also, his girlfriend goes to another school.
Maybe it's a school in Canada? Oh wait. Canada is science fiction...
Literal laugh out loud.
In Canada.
😂
Radiometric dating only goes back 50,000 years on DNA, that's if you're assuming lots of constants about chemical reactions that may be off.
It never ceases to amaze the unshakeable confidence that abject ignorance can provide.
Intelligent people constantly doubt themselves because they are self-aware and know that the scientific method is always open to revision and amendment whereas dumbass apologists say my "book" is always right and always will be.
@@digbycrankshaft7572 That's one of the biggest problems in the world: The wise are full of doubts and the fools are full of confidence.
I REFUSE to believe this dude isn't a prank caller 😭 the smugnorance is too much to be real and my faith in humanity can't take it
David just laughs every time he's faced with the fact he's unable to learn. This is how he copes. Poor dumb dumb.
Humans may not have known about the theory of evolution, but they definitely knew that organisms change through breeding over generations
The very existence of dogs, cats, and other domesticated animals is proof of that.
@@thegrouchization you beat me to it lol
@@thegrouchization But that's not evolution, because... exploding suns 🤣
Like a virus mutating into something dangerous, forcing one to avoid church?
@@johnscaramis2515 Funnily enough, I just finished watching a video about supernovae.
“Then why are there still monkeys?!?”
Boom.
No one ever thought of that, did they?
😂😂😂
Reminds me of the quote: “The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."-Bertrand Russell
This was a prank call.
Forrest's mini-lectures are very clear and understandable, the caller just isn't listening.
Cognitive dissonance, simply put, he can't see what is right in front of his face.
David isn't listening because he has an agend to promote. Facts just get in the way of that agenda.
It's the equivalent of closing your eyes, fingers in your ears, and going la, la la, la, la!
Even if he just disagreed with the outcome, doesn't mean he can't be honest about how we got there. These folks drive me crazy.
I really like how Dan handled this towards the end. Someone with no credentials arguing that an entire field of study is wrong happens way too much and deserves more pushback.
"There's Radioaction" good job David
A caller like this is fantastic for them; allows them to talk very simply; they aren't going to convince him because he's decided what he believes, but perhaps another listener (a child?) will begin to think.
Must be difficult growing up in an environment where none of the adults are interested in the truth
Nearly every sentence that came out of the caller's mouth can be used as a dunning kruger effect meme.
David would claim that the Dunning-Kruger effect is "just science fiction" !
Does that explain why the LGBTQUIA religion says men can get pregnant?
@@imperialmotoring3789 Apart from being ignorant, you also seem to be very confused about the term "religion".
@@xxyWolf No. I was correct. You are purposely self-ignorant, but hey I know you want to fit in.
@@imperialmotoring3789 do the world a favour and shut up forever please
Ah yes, the “all of modern science is fake, I alone have invented the REAL science and THAT science proves god because I say so.” guy. 😂
That’s nonsense, I invented the species. Darwin is the devil!
if my family hasn't heard of it, it must be fake science fiction.
"The Bible says that cows looking at reeds produce striped calves."
"Look at the erupting volcano! It's God! The column of fire is God!"
"And I know better than all of the experts, even though I can't explain or define anything!"
For those science deniers or the ones with alternative science, why not take away everything taht modern science has brought us. I mean it's their claim that science is wrong. And like the bible it's only all or nothing, no cherrypicking. They are so smart and inventive, they can do it on their own?!?
He's not listening to a word they're saying. He just wants to spout off what he heard in Sunday school.
You have no proof! That’s science fiction!!
I'm surprised this caller has enough brainpower to be able to dial the phone.
They made SIRI for them😂
Forest is way better at staying calm then I could ever be.
Imhappyplz 😄
Yeah, but Dan was starting to get pissed at the end there. 😏
It's great.
He has some experience with being a teacher. I'd say it's one of necessary traits if you want to interact with crotch gremlins.
No need to get upset when you can mentally run circles around these fools.
David was just so enthusiastic about his ignorance it made it one of the best shows.
The patience of these guys amazes me
David=king of the homeschooled kids.
David's ignorance was literally painful for me to try to process. Kudos to you guys for being so patient with him.
The audience laughing is DOPE AF!
Yes, the statements David was making was DOPE! I'm getting a little bit old at 67, but I like the term "Dope" as used by the young people in the 90's. I don't think David knows many terms used by anybody at any time. He's just a little out there somewhere..
I thought I was crazy, but the crew was definitely audibly laughing right? It made it that much more enjoyable!
Forrest looks *SO EXCITED* for the next caller. It’s adorable. ☺️
Edit: Oh boi. His expression changed quickly. This caller is PAINFUL.
Forrest is usually a really upbeat and jolly guy. It takes an immensely arrogant and stupid person to ruin his mood like that.
@@tristanmisja 100% agree.
The very existence of David does make the case that even evolution screws up sometimes
Lol. Very true!😂
I kinds hate to say this: but this kind of all encompassing Dumbness forms a hyper efficient shield of protection against factual knowledge.David isnt fool proof, he's Intelligence proof..
Actually, I hate that statement, because it makes it sound like evolution is trying to make humans smarter. It's not! If you think David is an evolutionary "screw up", you don't understand evolution.
@@Sal.K--BC I agree with you. I think the fact that David may reproduce to pass on those genes is a travesty though.
@@Sal.K--BC it was a joke you muppet
This is the same David that knows he knows more about cosmology than all of the astro physicists in the world after 16 hours of basic research, and now he's debunking all of modern biology.
The "I use the cosmology of David" guy?
Yes it's that David aka Janice Beams is the name he makes comments under.
David is a 58 year old air conditioning and refrigeration repairman who claims knows more than any Physicist, Biologist, Geologist, Astrophysicists alive or dead.
He has called the ACA shows over a dozen times.
And he thinks he is "a highly evolved superior being."
You can watch a video of his first call to an ACA show by searching for the following
Blood Atonement Word Salad | Lord Methane-CA | The Atheist Experience 24.45
@@ookeekthelibrarian oh wow, he is Lord Methane isn't he? I remember that stupid call.
@@shanewilson7994 That be David 🤣🤣
David probably got his superior knowledge of evolution from the Banana Man himself!
I'm impressed by how many chances you gave him because I couldn't stand that flippant chuckle he kept giving.
And to think that people like David are sometimes our neighbors. Wow!
David: "Radiometric dating is science fiction"
Dan & Forrest: "What is radiometric dating, David?"
David: " well...well I understand how radioaction decay. Well, supposedly there's half-lives of the Uranium-238 and all that kind of stuff..."
imagine living your life thinking things can't be true because you don't understand it. I personally don't understand computer programming and coding, so that would be like me saying that computer programming and coding is science fiction
Creationists have yet to realize that as far everyone else is concerned, they are no more credible than an illiterate homeless man that runs into a hospital, claims to be the greatest neurosurgeon in the world, and demands to be let into an operating room where a brain surgery is taking place.
You just know that as soon as David got off this call, he told his family all about how he schooled them boys...
😂😂😂😂😂Spot on, absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂
What i "just know" is that he came back on the show one week later to complain how atheists are so "judgemental" and he tried to use this comment section as proof. :))
Yeah. He certainly did. If you can't dazzle with brilliance you baffle with bullshit!😂
Forest was discussing the evidence when the guy told him he had no evidence. 🤯
He's another dishonest person. Nobody's that stupid.
Idk he might have been mentally challenged
Actually yes there are some people that are that stupid. You just heard someone that is. and;
What it takes to be that stupid is to be indoctrinated in a church/religion.
You would be surprised by the lengths human stupidity can reach.
Millions of people are indeed that stupid.
Wrong. David is that stupid. He will show up in the comment section as lord methane or david anewman or Janice something.
"Against a stupidity that is in fashion, no wisdom compensates. Talk sense to a fool, and he calls you foolish. Truth will always be truth regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief, or ignorance." ~ Theodore Fontaine
FORREST IS THE GREATEST! More please
Forrest is great at what he does. Really glad he is out there.
This may have been the dumbest caller ever. I was both shocked, and yet could not stop laughing.
No, there have been much dumber callers than David. He's just another in a long laundry list of dumb callers.
Kinda too late to reply, but I was laughing so hard, no comedian ever made me laugh so much. It was hilarious 😂
I know that some Americans aren't that smart, but the stupidity of this guy makes one speechless. There has to be a GABA-Campaign: Give Americans Brain AGAIN!
How is this LAUGHABLY funny??? It's fkn sad and painful.
"I don't know what evolution actually is, or what radiometric dating involves but I just know it is false because it contradicts what I believe to be true based on a book".
When Davey's imaginary friend was giving out creationist brains, he was definitely at the back of the queue.
He more likely missed his appointment altogether.
He thought they said trains and hid behind the door
He didn't even know that there was a queue.
Creationists don't get brains. They get an 8 track cassette.
David is a perfect illustration of the Dunning Kruger effect.
He‘s beyond Dunning-Kruger. He somehow manages to think he knows more about science than the experts in the field while he‘s simultaneously aware that he doesn‘t.
In a way, he‘s „Schrödinger‘s Dunning-Kruger“.
@@christianosminroden7878 The problem with idiots is that they think the are the smartest.
Did anyone notice David’s nervous chuckle every time Forest presented a fact that disproved his assertion?
That wasn't a nervous chuckle, it was a snigger.
@@garethedwards1926 Snicker*
@@dryfox11they’re synonymous I think 🤷🏼♀️
I love how Forrest manages to remain sweet and wholesome despite how absurdly idiotic (AND RUDE) the callers sometimes are.
David is clearly a person suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect.
I like his nervous laughter. Classic response when you know you are wrong
That sounds like arrogant laughter. Like he thinks he’s so much smarter than them.
@@TheIntJuggler definitely an arrogant laughter
Sounds like a kent hovind laugh... the one of ignorance
"I have no clue about this subject but I will argue it with actual experts" Glad to see Dunning-Kruger effect still in full force.
iT'S CALLED 'BEING AN AMERICAN.'
Expert* Dan is just some dude.
I love the long pause as he frantically tries to google what radiometric dating is.
It's the condescending laugh for me. It's like talking to a wall with David, master of dancing away from a question.
I don't think I would have survived this long. Dan, Forrest, you guys are troopers.
I would have been "Hey David, where in California do you live? You have to be taken out of the gene pool before you can breed."
You guys are so patient. I can’t suffer fools so gladly. I’d have told him to get lost in the first four minutes
Caller: well, you can prove anything with facts, can't you?
This is like having a conversation with a real life Forrest Gump
Forrest Gump is smart enough to admit he doesn't know something.
@@tanaka173
Yeah, David makes Forrest Gump look like a genius.
Forrest Gump has a good heart. This knobhead does not
He didn't even say "There are no transitional fossils." What a champ. Birds are real too.
Oh come on David!! Birds are not real! I saw it on 60 Minutes.