This is what I love about Sue. She may seem evil, but she understood what Becky was feeling (especially considering that she had a special needs sister) and although Becky caused a big problem without wanting to, Sue put her career and job at risk before seeing becky struggle later on.
@AestheticallyDumb yes? she only cared about Becky because she reminded her of her sister (in the show) and because becky was her loyal minion. Sue was pure evil. I cant even name all the ridiculous things she did on the show.
AestheticallyDumb this is one of those moments where she is not a bitch all the time. Proof that she actually has a heart, and someone worthy of redeeming. However she destroyed glee club many times to the point where it’s borderline abuse of a minor, and at another point disbanded glee bc she simply won a bet with Will. She manipulates other to get what she wants and if she doesn’t, she uses force, so bad that she actually became president of McKinnley because she planted incriminating evidence of a criminal investigation on Figgins to demote him from the position. Her “good” does not outweigh her “bad” but does make her more endearing.
Ella M they did shoot this episode before all the school shootings though. They cannot predict the future so people shouldn’t judge them for smth they couldn’t possibly have known
I hate to tell you this, but this sums up Sue Sylvester's teaching career. Yes, she is rude, vulgar, hateful, backstabbing, vengeful, and many other colorful adjectives...but at the end of the day...she has Becki's back covered. Throughout this show I have hated what she has done to people, except for this one moment. I think she shows her true colors.
@@TheVillain01 actually in my on opinion, she isn't. She's on par with Will or worse. She verbally and sometimes physically abuse her students. Sure, she had some redeemable moments but so does Will. In the end of the day, Both are terrible teachers and would have been fired if it was real life.
@@iwasagirlineldiadoingalrig7290 how the fuck was will a bad teacher. He litteraly made bully victims have a place they actually feel happy look at quinn and Rachel quinn used to bully Rachel then became friends because they had a club teachesld by will
cant tell if this was a good move on sue's part because yes she sacrificed herself for becky but if becky is in the mental state where she's bringing guns to school, is it really safe for her to actually attend the school? what if the gun had been pointed in the wrong direction and sue (or becky) had gotten hurt? compromising the safety of other students so that becky can stay doesnt seem right
hazel k It's not Becky's fault. Her dad kept a gun at the reach of someone with Down Sindrome, it is his fault entirely. She didn't know that she was doing something extremely dangerous, and you can't blame someone for something they don't know. People in America have the twisted feeling that the only way to protect your family is to arm yourself, not knowing that it only allows violence and crimes to be commited more often. Well, you can see the result of it. Her family and society thaught Becky that she needed a gun to be safe, so it was exaclty what she did. Gun policies will never be enough until governments realize that civilians are not supposed to carry around guns.
Caio Napoli no, it's IN NO WAY Becky's fault. But by burying this incident, no one knows how scared Becky is and no one can help her deal with that. If she doesn't deal with it, that fear can wind up doing SERIOUS harm to her psychologically and that can lead to a whole bundle of problems down the road. Trust me, I know. That said, reporting her likely wouldn't have helped. They would have punished her for the shooting and probably never dealt with the underlying issues. I can only hope Sue talked to Becky's parents about the incident so they could help her deal with her fear of the future. Life after high school can be a truly terrifying thought when you are neurologically different and I, at least, am high-functioning. I don't envy Becky's position at all.
Just because she has down syndrome, doesn't mean she doesn't have issues. I myself have a neurological disorder. It is in no way as severe, but it does cause me problems interacting with a neurotypical world. Becky obviously realized that bringing a gun to school was a bad decision or she would not have told Sue. She wants help dealing with the fear of entering a world she knows nothing about (i.e.: post-school). I'm merely saying that Sue should make sure she gets it. Sue did the best she could for Becky under the circumstances, but Becky still needs to have someone recognize and help her deal with her fears or it's very possible she could find herself in another potentially dangerous situation and there might not be someone around to help next time.
Yeah, I am too. Honestly, I was surprised she only got a month's suspension when she fessed up. Not that's not a big punishment, but I've never know a school administration to be so understanding of... well, anything, really.
The fact that Sue told this lie so well, makes me think back over her other controversial arguements in the past. How many of the horrible things she did/said did she actually mean? I'm gutted that this is how her character finished. Don't get me wrong, great story and really emotionally powerful and I'm glad her and Becky's fates were intertwined but still...Sue deserved better.
I respect Sue for wanting to protect Becky, but I feel like she's not helping the situation by taking the fall. Becky obviously isn't in a good mental place and needs help if she's bringing a gun to school. She could have easily hurt or killed someone. The responsible thing to do would have been to get her help.
Randy3435 True I remember they only wrote and aired this episode within a week of the Sandy Hook shooting and people were so outraged they were capitalizing on it. Glee is actually very greedy lol
K G You realise TV programmes are produced and post-produced the year BEFORE they are broadcast, right? I work in film/TV, there is no way you can write, produce, rehearse, shoot and edit an episode in less than a week.
@@martymclean3763 Also, for example in 2018, there have been more than 30 school shootings. So given any week in the year you have a chance > 50% that there is a school shooting happening. How are you supposed to schedule such an episode without tipping on anyone's feet?
I still remember when I first watched this scene and Sue said that the gun was hers, right away I knew she was covering for Becky. I always thought that was obvious and that everyone should have been able to put the pieces together. Sue was a lot of things but bringing a gun to school wasn't even close to being like her personality.
@@xxx-dw7tq she did .. in a way by telling him to look out for her, “she gets scared like the rest of them” People bring guns in public for 2 reasons I’ve noticed, anger and fear. That’s what motivates most shootings.
Lol no A couple nice things doesn't make you nice I applaud her for what good things she has done but she isn't the nicest person in there. Will way more nicer than her and always will be.
@@SpiderMan-wi9rc So they could get back together, yes it was inhumane, but if you think about it, without Sue, Kurt and Blaine probably wouldn't of gotten back together.
I Still love this scene so much.. whatever grudges Will and Sue might have had in the past, they still know each other like the back of their hands. You can see at 4:33-4:34 that Will realizes who the real shooter is and understands Sue's reasons. No words needed. It's amazing.
And sad. We all makes mistakes but they shouldn’t define us or our character. No one is perfect in this world but if you do so much good and fucked up once and all of a sudden your whole persona, reputation is damage because of is sad.
I think that doesn’t necessarily apply here. if that really was sue’s gun and her lie was real then it would make sense for her to mainly be remembered for that considering she would’ve traumatized an ENTIRE school of students and faculty members to the point of having ptsd
@@aliyahbell3975 it honestly depends on how big your fuck up is and how many people are affected by it. somebody could do a lot of good deeds but do something that completely trumps all of those good deeds. if what Sue said was true then that means she gave almost every kid in that school ptsd.
@@khaliaward1771 but on what criteria is something a big deal? Let‘s take some sensitive topic and say there‘s a doctor who has saved 10k lives but had to kill one. Every single life is equally as important. Does one kill revoke the good things he has done? Do the relief and joy vanish from the 10k and their families because of one? It‘s a difficult thing to philosophise about because there’s no right or wrong
@@TheFreakyable People already understand that doctors are not always capable of saving a person's life, due to the sheer nature of being a medical professional. A teacher bringing a loaded gun to school is in no way comparable to a medical professional's judgment of a medical situation (and yes, I am fully aware Sue did not bring or fire the gun, but in this scene that is the scenario that Sue is constructing for Principal Figgins to believe), and in that situation, the teacher traumatized an entire school community, especially when there's an atmosphere of anxiety about school shootings in the United States already. In your "example," the doctor only "killed" (I'm assuming you mean euthanize or neglect due to triaging/prioritizing patients with more serious conditions) one person. Bad analogies and trying to say "oh everything is relative" is a slippery slope to where you can just minimize anything and everything.
When Becky says it's her dads. I got pissed. I know It's a TV show and it's not real, but it got me mad. Why the fuck would you keep firearms under the same roof as someone with mental condition. I don't fault Becky at all, I fault the parents who kept a gun, especially within reach of someone with a disability.
Tom Buxton Having firearms in the house with any child is pure stupidity. Personally I am against firearms. I work with mentally and physically disabled individuals. While working with the mentally disabled, they are to not have firearms in their house. For the safety of others, but also the safety of the individual themselves. I treat them just as I treat anybody, but I am not about to put a gun in their hands and say "Here you go." Especially in a child's hands. Maybe you don't care about a child's life, but I do.
Nichole Lilith Turner yet ppl have the right to due to the 2nd amendment?I'm not saying that we should give ppl who maybe mentally unstable guns, I am just saying
When Sue clutched her chest right below her neck, I got so scared that she had been shot. And I had to rewatch it about two times to understand that the part with Becky was a flashback.
Whenever Becky said she was scared 2 graduate, and started crying after she accidentally pulled the trigger, put me 2 tears! She’s such a sweetheart like sue’s sister! I’m also really sad that she had 2 pass away! I ❤️ both Becky and sue’s sister sooo much! 😭
Man, I cried with this. Specially when she talked about her achievements and being remembered for that one mistake instead. Yet she didn't regret for a second protecting Becky. The woman was throwing her entire career out for her. She's the best teacher at that school.
I thought that was so true, and so painful. I love Sue so much, even though I didn't stand for her evil throughout most of the series, in this moment, she really tipped her hand
This is tragic. She did so much good and now all they'll remember her for is bringing a gun to school, for her own protection, she alleges. She sacrificed years of excellence in teaching to save one child's future. What a lady.
She didn't do anything "for" them. Instead of letting them reunite organically, she forced them to be locked in an elevator until they kissed. She literally WAS the Klaine fandom: forcing two males together for predominantly female amusement. It was sick.
i just noticed how they zoom out at the "win at all cost" poster right when suea is takin the fall. the same way they zoomed out from the "Children are our N°1 priority" poster on the pilot episode, right when Mr schue was framing Finn for MJ possesion..... food for tought
When the gun went off it scared the crap out of me. I know it's a show but this really happens now days. My son school had a lock down today due to a treat. And knowing I couldn't do anything was scary something has to change
Yup! I’m not anti gun but I think people should be extremely smart when handling and there should be better laws regarding who can have one. It’s complicated and I don’t have an answer but I don’t think taking away people’s ability to defend themselves is the right way to do it. But we should definitely be smarter and stop drinking when using guns. I’ve heard of really sad news stories of people being idiots and messing around with their weapons while heavily under the influence and ended up either seriously injured or straight up died.
I'll miss Sue so much!! She had great one-liners and was always secretly caring. But this was a really good finale for her character and a really well written episode overall :)
You could tell she meant a lot more than it sounded like with that last line, she said it so casually but from how she paused beforehand you could tell what she meant, it was her way of saying "we really were friends will"
I think it was a great way for her character to go. Not that I ever wanted/want her to have. Dramatic topical storyline that hopefully will help at least one scared/angry person out there if not more. Very Sue...strong.
I have special needs so understand how scary change is she WAS scared and wanted to be prepared its because of the school shootings she didn't feel safe anymore
The accidental shooter scene made me freak out when I was recently rewatching only a few weeks ago because when I first watched it I realized it was bad but had not been in that situation.... then I watched it again..
2:09-2:50 It's so sad how real and entirely accurate that is; an entire resume of great accomplishments yet the world will wash it all out for one bad thing on your ledger.
I live in the Netherlands and there is a big terrorism scare over Europe. I was watching this episode not knowing what was going to happen and my heart stopped. This was exactly what few of the 140 people must have felt the night of 13th nov in Paris. Not knowing when it will end and if you will make it out alive. #Parisisaboutlife #prayforparis
I've only seen the show Maybe two episodes random order and I thought the female Coach Sue I thought she was a horrible evil person I had no idea about this episode and it really gets to me because I have a disability as well Asperger syndrome it's a learning and social disability and it's always held me back a lot while making friends even when trying to study at school I always kept thinking that it was even going to hold me back from finding a career and surviving out in the world just like how Becky felt but I never resort to taking a gun but what she did for her it definitely shows me that so there may be people out there in the world that seem as hard as Stone but somewhere in them they have heart and it really does give me hope for the world today
Everyone here talking about how Sue did a very honorable thing covering for Becky, but I see no one even mentioning Will and his whole "I'm not buying it" bit. Will knew Sue was far from a goody two-shoes, but her bringing a gun was where he drew the line. Even though the evidence tends to show otherwise, deep down Will always knew that Sue was better than people give her credit for. He always believed in her even though he hates everything she's done to him. Seriously, Will and Sue's friendship is something else
As much as it sucks that Sue didn't directly implicate Becky, Sue did tell Will, side-of-the-mouth, that Becky was responsible, which led to Roz putting pressure on Becky until Becky decided to confess. I think Sue wanted Becky to stand up and take responsibility herself, rather than being ratted out.
As easy as it would to scold Becky, her reasoning is understandable. She was scared no one would protect her, that with her Down syndrome, she already was going to have a difficult life. I guess what pissed me off about her is that she was bitch throughout the show, and now she does something stupid, its easy to blame her, when truthfully, she was pushed to the limit. That's simply my opinion though.
I LOVED Sue in the later series. Whether it was meant to be as a byproduct of her interactions with Glee, or just Sue's natural character arc, she went from a predatory wolf to a protective lioness. I mean sure she was still a hard-ass, and went hilariously overboard on several occasions, but when it genuinely mattered she always came through, and helped and protected the students without even asking for recognition. I think her real character is a very underappreciated aspect of the show, and deserves a lot more recognition than it gets.
Glee never really had tea but I saw glee shooting scene so I was like Yesss finally some real good tea then I saw this and I was like r u KIDDING ME!!!!!!
Lauren Potter is a great actress, I guess it's really hard playing a bitchy character who hides her immense fear of facing the outside world alone, she nailed that role. This sequence is powerful too
Literally I remember watching this back then I realised that becky shouldn’t be carrying a firearm in school that’s dangerous you could have hurt yourself or sue and you caused the whole school in panic
How can someone hate Sue?? Yeah, she did a few messed up things but she was there for Backy and even if she denied this she cares about the glee club. You can see that when she protect them in regionals and when she was helping them from her own will before nationals, she convinced and brought Santanas grandma to the wedding. She even helped the teachers thousand of times! She was there for Beiste when she discovered that Cooper hit her, she was helping Will with a lot of things, she even helped Emma sometimes!! And off the point, she ships KLAIne like 99% of us and she's funny.
She was a bully, but she understood that there are things that are unacceptable. For example, when Karofsky threathened Kurt, or Karofsky attempted suicide. Sue is such an amazing character.
Did Sue dump the gun where she allegedly dumped the casings, aka the bottom of the lake? If she still has it, wouldn’t the police be able to trace it back to Becky’s father?
You know I never really felt like Sue was a bad person or evil she just was overly competitive and loved the thrill of a rival a little too much. But when it came to really standing up for what was right, such as when she defended Kurt from Karofsky and standing up for Becky and protecting her, she revealed her heart and those made for great show moments.
This is what I love about Sue. She may seem evil, but she understood what Becky was feeling (especially considering that she had a special needs sister) and although Becky caused a big problem without wanting to, Sue put her career and job at risk before seeing becky struggle later on.
nah. she was pure evil. Becky was just her minion.
@@andyd3447 dude wtf
@AestheticallyDumb yes? she only cared about Becky because she reminded her of her sister (in the show) and because becky was her loyal minion. Sue was pure evil. I cant even name all the ridiculous things she did on the show.
AestheticallyDumb this is one of those moments where she is not a bitch all the time. Proof that she actually has a heart, and someone worthy of redeeming. However she destroyed glee club many times to the point where it’s borderline abuse of a minor, and at another point disbanded glee bc she simply won a bet with Will. She manipulates other to get what she wants and if she doesn’t, she uses force, so bad that she actually became president of McKinnley because she planted incriminating evidence of a criminal investigation on Figgins to demote him from the position.
Her “good” does not outweigh her “bad” but does make her more endearing.
@@diamondborealis454 I was literally about to say the same thing 😂 her good not outweigh her bad.
glee really was ahead of their time
*foreal*
K G lol
No this was way too soon after several school shootings had happened and it was controversial that they did this episode.
Ella M they did shoot this episode before all the school shootings though. They cannot predict the future so people shouldn’t judge them for smth they couldn’t possibly have known
Yeah, school shootings only happened after this episode.
I hate to tell you this, but this sums up Sue Sylvester's teaching career. Yes, she is rude, vulgar, hateful, backstabbing, vengeful, and many other colorful adjectives...but at the end of the day...she has Becki's back covered. Throughout this show I have hated what she has done to people, except for this one moment. I think she shows her true colors.
She's better than Will Schuester
@@TheVillain01 actually in my on opinion, she isn't. She's on par with Will or worse. She verbally and sometimes physically abuse her students. Sure, she had some redeemable moments but so does Will. In the end of the day, Both are terrible teachers and would have been fired if it was real life.
@@iwasagirlineldiadoingalrig7290 how the fuck was will a bad teacher. He litteraly made bully victims have a place they actually feel happy look at quinn and Rachel quinn used to bully Rachel then became friends because they had a club teachesld by will
@@grantmcroberts4089 i suggest you google “will schuster being creepy for 10mins” and it’ll answer some of your questions
@@iwasagirlineldiadoingalrig7290 She almost killed one for a cheer leading competition. Will sucks but not that much
cant tell if this was a good move on sue's part because yes she sacrificed herself for becky but if becky is in the mental state where she's bringing guns to school, is it really safe for her to actually attend the school? what if the gun had been pointed in the wrong direction and sue (or becky) had gotten hurt? compromising the safety of other students so that becky can stay doesnt seem right
hazel k It's not Becky's fault. Her dad kept a gun at the reach of someone with Down Sindrome, it is his fault entirely. She didn't know that she was doing something extremely dangerous, and you can't blame someone for something they don't know. People in America have the twisted feeling that the only way to protect your family is to arm yourself, not knowing that it only allows violence and crimes to be commited more often. Well, you can see the result of it. Her family and society thaught Becky that she needed a gun to be safe, so it was exaclty what she did. Gun policies will never be enough until governments realize that civilians are not supposed to carry around guns.
Caio Napoli no, it's IN NO WAY Becky's fault. But by burying this incident, no one knows how scared Becky is and no one can help her deal with that. If she doesn't deal with it, that fear can wind up doing SERIOUS harm to her psychologically and that can lead to a whole bundle of problems down the road. Trust me, I know.
That said, reporting her likely wouldn't have helped. They would have punished her for the shooting and probably never dealt with the underlying issues. I can only hope Sue talked to Becky's parents about the incident so they could help her deal with her fear of the future. Life after high school can be a truly terrifying thought when you are neurologically different and I, at least, am high-functioning. I don't envy Becky's position at all.
Just because she has down syndrome, doesn't mean she doesn't have issues. I myself have a neurological disorder. It is in no way as severe, but it does cause me problems interacting with a neurotypical world. Becky obviously realized that bringing a gun to school was a bad decision or she would not have told Sue. She wants help dealing with the fear of entering a world she knows nothing about (i.e.: post-school). I'm merely saying that Sue should make sure she gets it. Sue did the best she could for Becky under the circumstances, but Becky still needs to have someone recognize and help her deal with her fears or it's very possible she could find herself in another potentially dangerous situation and there might not be someone around to help next time.
Sue probably talk to her parents. I don't think she got expelled for this. I'm glad she got another chance
Yeah, I am too. Honestly, I was surprised she only got a month's suspension when she fessed up. Not that's not a big punishment, but I've never know a school administration to be so understanding of... well, anything, really.
The fact that Sue told this lie so well, makes me think back over her other controversial arguements in the past. How many of the horrible things she did/said did she actually mean? I'm gutted that this is how her character finished. Don't get me wrong, great story and really emotionally powerful and I'm glad her and Becky's fates were intertwined but still...Sue deserved better.
But she didn't. The principal-dude didn't believe her at all.
@@heddalee *Mr.Figgins
@@heddalee he and William didn't believe her because they know how was Sue as a teacher and professional. It wasn't because she was a bad lier
I respect Sue for wanting to protect Becky, but I feel like she's not helping the situation by taking the fall. Becky obviously isn't in a good mental place and needs help if she's bringing a gun to school. She could have easily hurt or killed someone. The responsible thing to do would have been to get her help.
i think becky despite the fall out should have owned up 😣
In a later episode becky tells the truth in order to get sue back of course she tells it off screen
Gurgle ffs get help get help stfu about help
jetnight 88 What? A person that brings a gun to school needs help.
My brain hurts...
I love how Sue just says “it was my gun” and then leaves.
to protect Becky that she treats like a mum figure to
in a way it reminds me of when Emma says she isn't getting married and then it goes to Sue just eating a crisp XD
No offense but shooting star is absolutely the worst title for an episode about a school shooting
that's the point
The Mad Hatter What point does it make though? What is it trying to prove? If anything I think it was making light of the situation.
Randy3435 True I remember they only wrote and aired this episode within a week of the Sandy Hook shooting and people were so outraged they were capitalizing on it. Glee is actually very greedy lol
K G You realise TV programmes are produced and post-produced the year BEFORE they are broadcast, right?
I work in film/TV, there is no way you can write, produce, rehearse, shoot and edit an episode in less than a week.
@@martymclean3763 Also, for example in 2018, there have been more than 30 school shootings. So given any week in the year you have a chance > 50% that there is a school shooting happening. How are you supposed to schedule such an episode without tipping on anyone's feet?
I still remember when I first watched this scene and Sue said that the gun was hers, right away I knew she was covering for Becky. I always thought that was obvious and that everyone should have been able to put the pieces together. Sue was a lot of things but bringing a gun to school wasn't even close to being like her personality.
Will noticed that something was off and tried to get Sue telling him the truth but she didn't.
@@xxx-dw7tq she did .. in a way by telling him to look out for her, “she gets scared like the rest of them”
People bring guns in public for 2 reasons I’ve noticed, anger and fear. That’s what motivates most shootings.
sue is actually one of the nicest people on this show if u think about it
Lol no A couple nice things doesn't make you nice I applaud her for what good things she has done but she isn't the nicest person in there. Will way more nicer than her and always will be.
Shes just not a fan of show choir
She is the most genuine character. At least she isnt hypocrite
Eric Phillips she’s done multiple nice things
@@SpiderMan-wi9rc So they could get back together, yes it was inhumane, but if you think about it, without Sue, Kurt and Blaine probably wouldn't of gotten back together.
I Still love this scene so much.. whatever grudges Will and Sue might have had in the past, they still know each other like the back of their hands. You can see at 4:33-4:34 that Will realizes who the real shooter is and understands Sue's reasons. No words needed. It's amazing.
I just started Glee and I hate Sue but this made me cry
i did mainly that it showed invincible evidence how it began and who shot those bullet shots and who bought that 9MM pistol into school
S D I’m on the next episode of this
100 good deeds will be forgotten by 1 bad deed.
So true
And sad. We all makes mistakes but they shouldn’t define us or our character. No one is perfect in this world but if you do so much good and fucked up once and all of a sudden your whole persona, reputation is damage because of is sad.
I think that doesn’t necessarily apply here. if that really was sue’s gun and her lie was real then it would make sense for her to mainly be remembered for that considering she would’ve traumatized an ENTIRE school of students and faculty members to the point of having ptsd
@@aliyahbell3975 it honestly depends on how big your fuck up is and how many people are affected by it. somebody could do a lot of good deeds but do something that completely trumps all of those good deeds. if what Sue said was true then that means she gave almost every kid in that school ptsd.
@@khaliaward1771 but on what criteria is something a big deal? Let‘s take some sensitive topic and say there‘s a doctor who has saved 10k lives but had to kill one. Every single life is equally as important. Does one kill revoke the good things he has done? Do the relief and joy vanish from the 10k and their families because of one? It‘s a difficult thing to philosophise about because there’s no right or wrong
@@TheFreakyable People already understand that doctors are not always capable of saving a person's life, due to the sheer nature of being a medical professional. A teacher bringing a loaded gun to school is in no way comparable to a medical professional's judgment of a medical situation (and yes, I am fully aware Sue did not bring or fire the gun, but in this scene that is the scenario that Sue is constructing for Principal Figgins to believe), and in that situation, the teacher traumatized an entire school community, especially when there's an atmosphere of anxiety about school shootings in the United States already. In your "example," the doctor only "killed" (I'm assuming you mean euthanize or neglect due to triaging/prioritizing patients with more serious conditions) one person. Bad analogies and trying to say "oh everything is relative" is a slippery slope to where you can just minimize anything and everything.
Sue was usually the “villain” of the show her relationship with Becky brought humanity to her character.
When Becky says it's her dads. I got pissed. I know It's a TV show and it's not real, but it got me mad. Why the fuck would you keep firearms under the same roof as someone with mental condition. I don't fault Becky at all, I fault the parents who kept a gun, especially within reach of someone with a disability.
***** Firearms in the house where a mentally challenged person can get it? No dear. That is pure stupidity.
Tom Buxton Having firearms in the house with any child is pure stupidity. Personally I am against firearms. I work with mentally and physically disabled individuals. While working with the mentally disabled, they are to not have firearms in their house. For the safety of others, but also the safety of the individual themselves. I treat them just as I treat anybody, but I am not about to put a gun in their hands and say "Here you go." Especially in a child's hands. Maybe you don't care about a child's life, but I do.
True.
Nichole Lilith Turner yet ppl have the right to due to the 2nd amendment?I'm not saying that we should give ppl who maybe mentally unstable guns, I am just saying
Sheppard
Like I have said before. I am against the use of guns.
Omg this has to be one of Jane Lynch's best performances ever, especially on Glee
When Sue clutched her chest right below her neck, I got so scared that she had been shot.
And I had to rewatch it about two times to understand that the part with Becky was a flashback.
When they showed Becky I couldnt take it I started bawling.
Me too
Whenever Becky said she was scared 2 graduate, and started crying after she accidentally pulled the trigger, put me 2 tears! She’s such a sweetheart like sue’s sister! I’m also really sad that she had 2 pass away! I ❤️ both Becky and sue’s sister sooo much! 😭
Man, I cried with this. Specially when she talked about her achievements and being remembered for that one mistake instead.
Yet she didn't regret for a second protecting Becky. The woman was throwing her entire career out for her.
She's the best teacher at that school.
I thought that was so true, and so painful. I love Sue so much, even though I didn't stand for her evil throughout most of the series, in this moment, she really tipped her hand
That was so sweet that Sue took the fall for Becky.
yeah i was pleased of that too
Even in a serious situation , sue still come through with all the shade 😫
This is tragic. She did so much good and now all they'll remember her for is bringing a gun to school, for her own protection, she alleges. She sacrificed years of excellence in teaching to save one child's future. What a lady.
and her baby has what becky has just like becky so that's why she protects her
fggh firs5
And her coach
Her sister as well
She started protecting her because of her sister
I’m not a Glee fan, but I like watching this clips. From what I can tell, I think Will figured out that Sue was covering for Becky
These
Sherry Valli no he meant to say clip not these clips
This and what she did for Klaine is why I liked Sue
Nominique agree, it was kinda crazy of her to lock Kurt and Blaine up in a lift tho😂
She didn't do anything "for" them. Instead of letting them reunite organically, she forced them to be locked in an elevator until they kissed. She literally WAS the Klaine fandom: forcing two males together for predominantly female amusement. It was sick.
Nominique she also helped Brittany and Santana a little too
I feel like she meant it when she said that wasn't her. I mean she showed, to me, genuine confusion when they brought up.
i just noticed how they zoom out at the "win at all cost" poster right when suea is takin the fall.
the same way they zoomed out from the "Children are our N°1 priority" poster on the pilot episode, right when Mr schue was framing Finn for MJ possesion..... food for tought
When the gun went off it scared the crap out of me. I know it's a show but this really happens now days. My son school had a lock down today due to a treat. And knowing I couldn't do anything was scary something has to change
What would you recommend?
Yup!
I’m not anti gun but I think people should be extremely smart when handling and there should be better laws regarding who can have one. It’s complicated and I don’t have an answer but I don’t think taking away people’s ability to defend themselves is the right way to do it. But we should definitely be smarter and stop drinking when using guns. I’ve heard of really sad news stories of people being idiots and messing around with their weapons while heavily under the influence and ended up either seriously injured or straight up died.
I love how Sue is protecting Becky from getting expelled from school.
I'll miss Sue so much!! She had great one-liners and was always secretly caring. But this was a really good finale for her character and a really well written episode overall :)
I love how Sue is protecting Becky from getting in trouble.
she is a kid figure to Sylvester
Sue that last line was possibly the best thing anyone has ever said ever :'(
She might always have been a pain in the neck but during times of seriousness she knows what is right.
How is it right to take the blame for a school shooter and allow her to go free and possibly repeat her actions? It puts everyone in danger...
You could tell she meant a lot more than it sounded like with that last line, she said it so casually but from how she paused beforehand you could tell what she meant, it was her way of saying "we really were friends will"
The one thing I will always admired is sue's protectiveness of Becky
this girl can act
This scene actually made me cry cuz the fear that Becky had about her condition and being out there in a cruel world.
Becky is a precious gem. Such a great character and incredible actress.
I think it was a great way for her character to go. Not that I ever wanted/want her to have.
Dramatic topical storyline that hopefully will help at least one scared/angry person out there if not more. Very Sue...strong.
I have special needs so understand how scary change is she WAS scared and wanted to be prepared its because of the school shootings she didn't feel safe anymore
Dan Panting I have special needs also
Vince Owen fuck off asshat
@@caitlynrandolphi3737 me too 😁
@TAB Do you understand the meaning?
TAB no hun, you dont know what special needs are
Wait, that’s Spencer Reid’s mother in the show Criminal Minds
She's been around for a long time, before during and after Glee :)
I love even though Sue can be mean sometimes, she secretly has a kind heart and willing to risk anything to help someone.
This whole episode was so intense the first time I watched it the scenes where they were locked in the glee room felt like they went on for hours
I knowwww. I still cry when I see Brittany hiding terrified in the bathroom 😢
@@echo8630 I know I'm still super relieved when Mr. Shue finds her and the other people
Let's not forget how many lives she has ruined and people she threw under the bus...would she have done it for anyone other than Becky?
out all the scenes they did together this one scene is the most heart breaking even the principal hands were tied
His hands were always tied.
"give me the gun sweetheart" pain acting is so good
The accidental shooter scene made me freak out when I was recently rewatching only a few weeks ago because when I first watched it I realized it was bad but had not been in that situation.... then I watched it again..
wait, you experienced something lis this? I'm sorry, I get scared just practicing the drill. It must have been terrifying. I'm glad you are safe.
It's good to see that Sue has a heart 💜❤💜❤
Glee was at its best when there's a heartfelt story
You can just immediately see what she’s doing when she says no one is getting expelled
this broke my heart, after i first watched this i said, " Sue is the most selfless character in this show"
Awe i love Sue in this moment. She is truly human and amazing caretaker.
It's Season 4 Episode 18 for those who want to re-watch on Netflix
I think Sue should have told someone about Becky because it's a problem if she feels unsafe enough to bring a gun to school.
2:07 - 2:45 oh my... And that smile after that tho.
Taking the blame for Becky is the nicest thing I have ever seen her do
Sue will come back . Cant get rid of her that easy.
2:09-2:50
It's so sad how real and entirely accurate that is; an entire resume of great accomplishments yet the world will wash it all out for one bad thing on your ledger.
i love her acting her voice is so powerful
She had a sister just like Becky so she pays more attention to her.
And a daughter
I love the episodes where she shows humanity. I love how she sacrificed everything for Becky.
I live in the Netherlands and there is a big terrorism scare over Europe. I was watching this episode not knowing what was going to happen and my heart stopped. This was exactly what few of the 140 people must have felt the night of 13th nov in Paris. Not knowing when it will end and if you will make it out alive.
#Parisisaboutlife #prayforparis
Klimaapje i am so sorry about europes issues with terror, my countries issue is guns..
I've only seen the show Maybe two episodes random order and I thought the female Coach Sue I thought she was a horrible evil person I had no idea about this episode and it really gets to me because I have a disability as well Asperger syndrome it's a learning and social disability and it's always held me back a lot while making friends even when trying to study at school I always kept thinking that it was even going to hold me back from finding a career and surviving out in the world just like how Becky felt but I never resort to taking a gun but what she did for her it definitely shows me that so there may be people out there in the world that seem as hard as Stone but somewhere in them they have heart and it really does give me hope for the world today
Sue also had a desire to protect Becky because her older sister also has special needs, so she sees her sister in Becky.
THIS IS WHY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN SUE IS MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER ON GLEE
Was I the only one balling my eyes out from this episode?
Everyone here talking about how Sue did a very honorable thing covering for Becky, but I see no one even mentioning Will and his whole "I'm not buying it" bit. Will knew Sue was far from a goody two-shoes, but her bringing a gun was where he drew the line. Even though the evidence tends to show otherwise, deep down Will always knew that Sue was better than people give her credit for. He always believed in her even though he hates everything she's done to him.
Seriously, Will and Sue's friendship is something else
When sue got scared when Becky pulled out the gun 😿
Sue has a heart of gold
As much as it sucks that Sue didn't directly implicate Becky, Sue did tell Will, side-of-the-mouth, that Becky was responsible, which led to Roz putting pressure on Becky until Becky decided to confess. I think Sue wanted Becky to stand up and take responsibility herself, rather than being ratted out.
this was my favourite scene in the whole show
Damn... I stopped watching after season 3 and I missed all this. I’m back in binge mode when I get home
As easy as it would to scold Becky, her reasoning is understandable. She was scared no one would protect her, that with her Down syndrome, she already was going to have a difficult life. I guess what pissed me off about her is that she was bitch throughout the show, and now she does something stupid, its easy to blame her, when truthfully, she was pushed to the limit. That's simply my opinion though.
This scene makes me cry when Becky starts crying and I hate it. I love Sue SO much now.
I'm crying :(
I LOVED Sue in the later series. Whether it was meant to be as a byproduct of her interactions with Glee, or just Sue's natural character arc, she went from a predatory wolf to a protective lioness. I mean sure she was still a hard-ass, and went hilariously overboard on several occasions, but when it genuinely mattered she always came through, and helped and protected the students without even asking for recognition. I think her real character is a very underappreciated aspect of the show, and deserves a lot more recognition than it gets.
Sue will be back. In real life Jane is off doing some stage show or something. They did this so she could go and do that.
Wow u really see how selfless this was of her to take the hit for Becky
the way i actually feel sorry for sue
One of my favorite shows
I'm a guy and I find it hard not to cry when I watch this
just because you're a dude doesn't mean you cant have feelings
+Eki Osagie Yeah but most dudes are to proud to show any
She spitting some good 👍 and interesting 🧐 fact 👍⁉️!
Sue gave the best serious and emotional scenes if u ask me so many different sides to the character
what a redemption arc for sure
Sue sylvester needed her own show
*zooms in to “win at all costs”*
This makes me feel so sad for suE. SHE might be vulgar , rude, intolerable, etc. But she has beckie back
This episode was really ahead of its time
Glee never really had tea but I saw glee shooting scene so I was like Yesss finally some real good tea then I saw this and I was like r u KIDDING ME!!!!!!
Sue sole purpose of being a villain is to make glee club competitive and motivated. Villain with a twist but she is actually very nice person.
"Keep an eye on becky, She's though, but like the rest of the kids she got scared sometimes"
Sue...😔
Lauren Potter is a great actress, I guess it's really hard playing a bitchy character who hides her immense fear of facing the outside world alone, she nailed that role. This sequence is powerful too
Literally I remember watching this back then I realised that becky shouldn’t be carrying a firearm in school that’s dangerous you could have hurt yourself or sue and you caused the whole school in panic
I forgive Becky for what she has done and she is still marked and awesome of all in Glee
I am crying so much watching this
i cried in this episode
What coach did is something I will do if someone wants and need my help.
How can someone hate Sue?? Yeah, she did a few messed up things but she was there for Backy and even if she denied this she cares about the glee club. You can see that when she protect them in regionals and when she was helping them from her own will before nationals, she convinced and brought Santanas grandma to the wedding. She even helped the teachers thousand of times! She was there for Beiste when she discovered that Cooper hit her, she was helping Will with a lot of things, she even helped Emma sometimes!! And off the point, she ships KLAIne like 99% of us and she's funny.
She was a bully, but she understood that there are things that are unacceptable. For example, when Karofsky threathened Kurt, or Karofsky attempted suicide. Sue is such an amazing character.
Did Sue dump the gun where she allegedly dumped the casings, aka the bottom of the lake? If she still has it, wouldn’t the police be able to trace it back to Becky’s father?
You know I never really felt like Sue was a bad person or evil she just was overly competitive and loved the thrill of a rival a little too much. But when it came to really standing up for what was right, such as when she defended Kurt from Karofsky and standing up for Becky and protecting her, she revealed her heart and those made for great show moments.
Sue always had Beck's back😢