As a descendent of Confederate Veterans and Choctaw people, this was a real treat to hear. My Great Grandfather married a Choctaw woman and after the war lived on Nation land in Oklahoma then in Northern Mississippi. Thank you for telling this story.
@@glane3962 I don’t wanna absolutely dox myself lmao, let’s say I live near to the capital of the Cherokee. As Principal Chief he was an important figure (not a statement to his moral character). We have a lot of monuments to important Cherokee figures, there’s a statue of Sequoyah at the university.
@@ProfessorShnacktime I understand and thanks for the info! I didn’t know he was recognized anywhere because the fact the confederates kept fighting after Lees surrender isn’t well known. 👍🏻
The Choctaw people hold a very special place (as do all of the First Nation people) in the hearts of the people over here in Ireland. When word spread around the world of the plight of the Irish during the Great Famine of the 1840s the Choctaw people sent us $170 ( around $12,000 today ) to help alleviate the hunger. Coming from a place where discrimination and rampant land theft by an aggressive foreign power was a regular occurrence, the Choctaw people recognised our plight as theirs. We never forgot what they did for us ( In our eyes ALL First Nation people are our kindred spirits ) so when the pandemic hit America, and we saw how the Navajo people were suffering the most an appeal was set up here in Ireland for our historic brothers and sisters which raised over 2.5 million Euros ( around 3 million dollars ) to help. We were all so grateful to finally be able to return the love and kindness shown to us in our darkest hour all those years ago. Peace to all Greetings from rainy Ireland ;-)
I worked with Navajo teens in Gallup New Mexico as a counselor. You will be glad to know that my ancestors are mostly Irish coming over during the great famine. I do believe the Native peoples and the Irish have a special affinity. I feel as if the Navajo are my people. Thanks for your comment. I was aware of the history you recounted.
@@SStupendous Considering what they had at the time, that $12k equivalent was a lot of money. They donated within their means. Ireland is now a prosperous country with many more people-much more prosperous and populated than the Chocktaw were back then-so of course what they were able raise more today. It's more the gesture than the amount, although the amount is also valuable. The history of relations between the Irish and Scottish and the native nations in North America has always been so compelling to me since I learned of it. I have heard that among all the white men who interacted with these people, they always found kindred spirits in the Scots and Irishmen. They had similar values and ideas of family, honor, clanship, and so on...and of course a mutual history of being treated poorly by the English! Nothing brings two people together like hating the English, apparently. It's such a tragedy that the history of colonization in the "new world" continents was otherwise so violently adversarial. The "history" of the native peoples as we tell it today starts with their contact with settlers; all the history of the rise and fall of whole civilizations that were here before the settlers ever turned up has been eradicated and lost. I'm sure those early encounters involved sharing many oral histories over campfires that are forever lost to us today.
@@carsonm7292 delusion and ignorance is bliss. If this was true the Irish would have had this same compassion and collaboration with oppressed Africans. Instead they enslaved them and were often the overseers and "pattyrollers".
I’m a Muskogee Creek (Mvskoke), it’s well known in OK that a lot of tribes sided with the Confederacy, and if they didn’t it’s because they had an enemy tribe they wanted to fight so they joined the Union. Not so fun fact; a Cherokee force enacted a racial purge of black people from Wagoner, Oklahoma. Many were killed or arrested.
It's brave and honorable to acknowledge that. No amount of wrongs make a right, but we need to be brave and call out atrocities young and old, no matter who is guilty. Humanity is flawed, not any one race or variety but all of mankind has the potential for darkness.
@Nik Nikkersoon Yeah context is important! Still something worth sharing, considering nearly nobody I know ever talks about it. I learned it only from small local Oklahoma history books.
Listening while working and tuned out for a second... The first thing I heard after refocusing was "I'm not sure if we had the strength to strangle these men to death." Definitely went back to see what I missed.
I was about to watch something different, but Voices of the Past uploading a video from such fascinating perspective has priority. Also, I love the style of this relation.
Literally joined because people made fun of him for not fighting. Guess that explains why Lee didn't just refuse to fight, pacifism wasn't a respectable position to take.
Oh you'd be shocked even in ww2 it was taboo for a able man to not be serving my grandpa actually recalls being made fun of for not serving he was 14 lol
Yeah as much as modern narratives like to portray the contrary there were many instances where the women of any given town would ceaselessly shame and emasculate men who didn't want to fight.
I'm ashamed to admit that I was unaware that the southern Indians involvement in the war was so extensive. That's a gap in my education that I will soon rectify. Thank you.
The Chickasaw and Choctaw were firm allies of the Confederates because the Confederates offered a treaty recognizing them as Independent Countries. Something the U.S. had no interest in doing.
Grayson's book isnt very large, but its fascinating. Ironically, there are no muster rolls that show Grayson ever served, even though he definitely did. William Holland Thomas, that is pictured was a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokees in NC, neither he or the unit he lead served in the Indian Territory. The photograph at 21:00 are members of Thomas' Legion -aka 69th NC Inf. The photo at 15:06 is Pleasant Porter as young man.
Offers a unique and important point of view on civil war. Some narratives help you understand what it was like leading the Indian regiment during battle. Glad I watched this.
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit Choctaw & Chickasaw had many conflicts among ourselves before the White man. We had a concept called the Peace Village. When was was declared, non-combatants set up a Peace Village and both tribes left it alone. The first people to violate these boundaries by attacking wives and children in the Peace Village were Canadians of the French variety in 1730. Which is why our people felt entirely justified in the scalping and slave trading of captured French Canadians. They broke our sacred boundaries of war.
I am so very appreciative of your content offering. Voices of the past is what was missing in my public education that made me thirsty for what history is really made of of. Thank you so much😎
I'm from northeastern Oklahoma and have visited most of the battle sites mentioned on multiple occasions; the skirmishes in what was then Indian Territory were frequent and bloody affairs.
That's awesome man. Be proud of who you are. My ancestors are on the Choctaw Nation Census of Tribal Citizens by blood & intermarriage living in the Chickasaw Clan District Village of the Choctaw Nation. That's also where they were from, up until my mom's lifetime. Our ancestors were on both sides. Like you said, some of those Civil War Veterans of both sides had descendants by tribal members after the war and became intermarried to tribal citizens.
I appreciate how back then people would also take daft picture of themselves too. -They probably had to stand there for a little while though for the picture to be taken, which really shows their commitment to the bit _🙏_
This is a wonderful channel, and so revealing. All the suffering throughout history, and yet, we never seem to learn. All of these historical documents to remind us, and yet we don’t read them, in schools. It would be easy to fix. But there aren’t enough people, who comprehend this, sadly, for the human species to evolve past the need for war.
We learn A LOT. We're not naked cannibals fighting with spears & mocking the doomed victims, but have 2,000+ years of civilization behind us and as a group, constantly improve through the ages. Disturbing to me is the recent fashion of discarding hard won cultural & social knowledge. Many 1st worlders aren't well enough educated at home to appreciate their journey & protect the values that brought us here, 3rd worlders want what we have in goods, but likewise couldn't care less about the reasons we achieved what we did. Self gratification alone will never achieve anything positive for humanity and there'sthe impetus for war: Greed. We think a lot alike I suppose 😊
Just another supportive comment. Very happy TH-cam recommended this to me. Your channel is a lucky find. Thanks for the work in the detail. Very entertaining. 🤙🏼🙏🏼
Thank you for having a rich taste in music, the song in the beginning is beautiful. For anyone searching it’s blood in the bayou by river lume and spearfish.
This is fascinating! I never really thought about the role of Native Americans in the Civil War. Hearing them fight for the Confederacy is intriguing, and while the first-hand account is great, I really want to know what the larger political motivations were. Did they view themselves as part of the South? Did the Confederates view them as citizens? Or were they perhaps offered a better treaty than the Union government gave them? Did they own slaves? I'll have to do some more reading into it.
To be incredibly reductive - some owned slaves, some thought the confederacy would give them a better deal as allies or to be autonomous states, and some just really wanted revenge on the Federal Government. (Missed a lot but these three I remember being big points when I covered it in uni)
The majority of English-speaking Christian Indians were from ‘the 5 civilized tribes;’ the Choctaw, Creek, Seminole, Cherokee, and Chickasaw. These were agricultural, populous societies that retained a larger population after white settlement. They were deported from their homeland in the southeast to Oklahoma by Jackson, despite being well-integrated into antebellum society.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's an "unbiased" account but rather a first hand account. Humans are biased, to us this is a historical artifacts and document but to the author it's his diary and his writings about what he thinks and feels. It's "biased" in favor of the author and his experiences, and how he remembers something that happened.
@@noco7243 - I took the "unbiased" statement to mean the video creator not interjecting his own views in the retelling. I don't know if that's how the OP intended it, or not, but that has merit.
My great grandfather, Samuel Stogner, rode with “The Catawba Rangers” from Lancaster South Carolina (and Incidentally: The Waxhaw’s; and The Catawba’s helped Ol’ A.J. win the Revolutionary war). During the Civil War the Catawba’s numbers were down considerably; but still 19 men fought with the South and saw combat throughout Virginia (to the best of my understanding).
4:56 Chilly McIntosh is my great uncle, as well is his brother Daniel McIntosh, Colonel of the 1st Creek Mounted Volunteers. Their father Chief William McIntosh is my 6X great grandfather.
My ancestor was named McIntosh Rentie (or Rentie McIntosh). An enslaved African from the the west coast. He ended up going from Georgia to Oklahoma. And his offspring were listed on the Creek roll as Freedmen. I am strongly assuming that he was enslaved by MIxed race McIntosh of the Creek nation. His descendants took Rentie as their last name and founded the Rentie settlement
Hello cousin. I am a McIntosh by my Grandmother Bessie Lara maiden name Scott. They are in our family tree as well. We moved to Eufaula OK, McIntosh county when I was in 6th grade. Had to check the family tree before you dated anyone... My ears perked up when I heard Chili Mcintosh as there was an older cousin named Chili Mcintosh, brother of Rolie and Stanly. Stanly did my braces and Rolie once stitched my toe at the clinic. Then I remembered his name was Greyson and remembered another cousin who move back a year after I did named Greyson and it clicked. Small world!
It’s worth noting that most of the photographs and prints seen here are from the eastern theater; mainly in and around Virginia. For instance, the photograph at 10:30 is a photograph taken in Fredericksburg, Virginia sometime between 1862 and 1863. It’s a rare example of a photograph taken by a confederate photography team as the south had very few photography teams. Many of the others were taken either within the Army of the Potomac or the Army of the James between 1862 and 1865.
Change some of the details and wording and I'd believe this could be a modern war diary. I find history most engaging when it's personal accounts like this, every history class should open with a personal account about an event before giving the boring stats and big events.
William Holland Thomas was a white man who was adopted into the Cherokee when they were still in North Carolina. In fact, he was able to save a number of Cherokee from being deported to Indian territory (modern-day Oklahoma) by having them separate from the official Cherokee nation and purchase their own land; even giving them a form of nominal citizenship as recognized by the state of North Carolina. He ended up forming his own unit, known as Thomas’s Legion of Cherokee Indians and Highlanders. They were called a “legion” because they were a mixed unit of artillery, cavalry, and infantry, which is distinct from a typical regiment. Most of the engagements they fought in were in the Appalachian mountains, though were sent elsewhere during the war. Most notably, they fought during the Battle of Cedar Creek during the Union’s second Valley campaign.
As a complete outsider, it was fascinating to hear this story of the Civil War in the native people who displaced to Oklahoma during Andrew Jackson’s time and its Trail of Tears. It’s interesting to hear that many of the Creek and Choctaw people had both Indian and Christian names. Many these young men still retained their warrior spirit and fought not so much for the Confederacy as for the idea that they were protecting their homeland and way of life. As mentioned in one of the comments below, some Indian tribes and groups joined the Union forces to fight for the north. It was definitely a very confusing time as far as loyalty goes. Many of the Indian groups had mixed ethnicities due to the fact that they welcomed escaped slaves and other outsiders into their societies. We should remember that this was less than sixty years after the Louisiana Purchase from France in 1803. For almost 200 years before the Civil War, Frenchmen intermarried with various Native American tribes. In many tribes, French was spoken by at least a few people for trade purposes and was more widely spoken than English.
Dear Voices of the past, Would you consider making a video about Iron Age India, or the Greek-Bactrian Kingdoms? They are very interesting subjects and I feel are often overlooked in history. If you would ever like help making or researching videos I would love to help
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Can you do a video of what other natives thought when another tribe slaughtered them to get the territory in the Black Hills
@@mariobadia4553 If any documents exist of personal accounts I’m sure he would but none may exist.
If it's free, you're the product. I bet they're profiling the heck out of you to sell to the highest bidder. Like TH-cam, then.
@@ximono they also only giving you the news and advertising they want you to see.
That’s why Russia bullies yall . By doing experiments on your public. 😂 y’all too scared to do something so y’all ignore it
As a descendent of Confederate Veterans and Choctaw people, this was a real treat to hear. My Great Grandfather married a Choctaw woman and after the war lived on Nation land in Oklahoma then in Northern Mississippi. Thank you for telling this story.
@Black Lesbian Poet lol. No they were not.
@Black Lesbian Poet lol stop trolling or at least try to do a better job at it
@Black Lesbian Poet lol wtf bruh at this point I just laugh when I see stuff like this lmao!!! 😂👌🏾
@@KeiPyn24 You fell for a troll dude.
@@KeyserSoze23 lol indeed 😆
Fun fact: The last Confederate General to surrender was a Cherokee named Stand Waite.
Other fun fact; there’s statues and memorials to this guy in my town!
@@ProfessorShnacktime Really? Where?
@@glane3962 I don’t wanna absolutely dox myself lmao, let’s say I live near to the capital of the Cherokee. As Principal Chief he was an important figure (not a statement to his moral character). We have a lot of monuments to important Cherokee figures, there’s a statue of Sequoyah at the university.
@@ProfessorShnacktime I understand and thanks for the info!
I didn’t know he was recognized anywhere because the fact the confederates kept fighting after Lees surrender isn’t well known. 👍🏻
@@glane3962 No problem. :) I love sharing Native American and Oklahoman history.
The Choctaw people hold a very special place (as do all of the First Nation people) in the hearts of the people over here in Ireland.
When word spread around the world of the plight of the Irish during the Great Famine of the 1840s the Choctaw people sent us $170 ( around $12,000 today ) to help alleviate the hunger.
Coming from a place where discrimination and rampant land theft by an aggressive foreign power was a regular occurrence, the Choctaw people recognised our plight as theirs.
We never forgot what they did for us ( In our eyes ALL First Nation people are our kindred spirits ) so when the pandemic hit America, and we saw how the Navajo people were suffering the most an appeal was set up here in Ireland for our historic brothers and sisters which raised over 2.5 million Euros ( around 3 million dollars ) to help.
We were all so grateful to finally be able to return the love and kindness shown to us in our darkest hour all those years ago.
Peace to all
Greetings from rainy Ireland ;-)
Not so much, but even this showed their care. Beautiful to think it happened
I worked with Navajo teens in Gallup New Mexico as a counselor. You will be glad to know that my ancestors are mostly Irish coming over during the great famine. I do believe the Native peoples and the Irish have a special affinity. I feel as if the Navajo are my people. Thanks for your comment. I was aware of the history you recounted.
@@SStupendous Considering what they had at the time, that $12k equivalent was a lot of money. They donated within their means. Ireland is now a prosperous country with many more people-much more prosperous and populated than the Chocktaw were back then-so of course what they were able raise more today. It's more the gesture than the amount, although the amount is also valuable.
The history of relations between the Irish and Scottish and the native nations in North America has always been so compelling to me since I learned of it. I have heard that among all the white men who interacted with these people, they always found kindred spirits in the Scots and Irishmen. They had similar values and ideas of family, honor, clanship, and so on...and of course a mutual history of being treated poorly by the English! Nothing brings two people together like hating the English, apparently. It's such a tragedy that the history of colonization in the "new world" continents was otherwise so violently adversarial. The "history" of the native peoples as we tell it today starts with their contact with settlers; all the history of the rise and fall of whole civilizations that were here before the settlers ever turned up has been eradicated and lost. I'm sure those early encounters involved sharing many oral histories over campfires that are forever lost to us today.
@@carsonm7292 delusion and ignorance is bliss. If this was true the Irish would have had this same compassion and collaboration with oppressed Africans. Instead they enslaved them and were often the overseers and "pattyrollers".
I’m a Muskogee Creek (Mvskoke), it’s well known in OK that a lot of tribes sided with the Confederacy, and if they didn’t it’s because they had an enemy tribe they wanted to fight so they joined the Union. Not so fun fact; a Cherokee force enacted a racial purge of black people from Wagoner, Oklahoma. Many were killed or arrested.
It's brave and honorable to acknowledge that. No amount of wrongs make a right, but we need to be brave and call out atrocities young and old, no matter who is guilty. Humanity is flawed, not any one race or variety but all of mankind has the potential for darkness.
@Nik Nikkersoon Yeah context is important! Still something worth sharing, considering nearly nobody I know ever talks about it. I learned it only from small local Oklahoma history books.
It's almost like every society has made mistakes.
@@ProfessorShnacktime keep spreading what you learn. History is always worth knowing.
Siyuu friend, good to see come creeks on TH-cam ✌️
This channel’s content is always a gift.
What an interesting diary of a well spoken man observing and reporting the events about him with a clarity seldom found.
Thank you.
Was trying to find words to convey my appreciation of this video and the individual when I happened upon your comment.My sentiments precisely.
Listening while working and tuned out for a second... The first thing I heard after refocusing was "I'm not sure if we had the strength to strangle these men to death." Definitely went back to see what I missed.
You have a rare narrating voice, no matter where these stories were lived, it's always easy for me to become immersed in their world
Some of the best history content on TH-cam. You are keeping the past alive, keep up the fantastic work.
GW certainly had a unique literary style.Loved it ,thanks for bringing it to us all.
I was about to watch something different, but Voices of the Past uploading a video from such fascinating perspective has priority.
Also, I love the style of this relation.
Literally joined because people made fun of him for not fighting. Guess that explains why Lee didn't just refuse to fight, pacifism wasn't a respectable position to take.
Peer pressure
Oh you'd be shocked even in ww2 it was taboo for a able man to not be serving my grandpa actually recalls being made fun of for not serving he was 14 lol
imagine having to join under the current commander in chief lol
@@lilwerner1518 lmfao
Yeah as much as modern narratives like to portray the contrary there were many instances where the women of any given town would ceaselessly shame and emasculate men who didn't want to fight.
I'm ashamed to admit that I was unaware that the southern Indians involvement in the war was so extensive.
That's a gap in my education that I will soon rectify. Thank you.
It also can be the educational agenda depending on where you live
The Chickasaw and Choctaw were firm allies of the Confederates because the Confederates offered a treaty recognizing them as Independent Countries. Something the U.S. had no interest in doing.
This page and Toldinstone, have to be the best two channels on TH-cam. Thank ya for your hard work and awesome content!
Grayson's book isnt very large, but its fascinating. Ironically, there are no muster rolls that show Grayson ever served, even though he definitely did. William Holland Thomas, that is pictured was a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokees in NC, neither he or the unit he lead served in the Indian Territory. The photograph at 21:00 are members of Thomas' Legion -aka 69th NC Inf. The photo at 15:06 is Pleasant Porter as young man.
Favorite channel by far.
It's great to get these sorts of perspectives. Thank you so much for uploading this!
Supporting the algorithm! May this go viral
I am so glad you used Alfred Waud’s art and even image, but I am sad he is not credited.
Have credited now - thanks for pointing it out.
Thank you for the reply and quick fix, I do love your videos!
I am absolutely so excited to watch this video - I know how high quality all of your works are.
This is awesome! I'm part Creek and the native perspective of the American Civil War is usually looked over. Keep up the good work!
I always look forward to this series, excellent stuff.
Its always makes History so real to hear what the people were thinking
Offers a unique and important point of view on civil war. Some narratives help you understand what it was like leading the Indian regiment during battle. Glad I watched this.
that intro gave me chills. to put life and limb just to prove the haters wrong sounds so badass and romantic
Yeah leaving your wife and kids behind to fend for themselves is alpha as fuck broooo
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unitit was wartime
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit That's the difference.
Our people had Peace Villages before Europeans.
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit Choctaw & Chickasaw had many conflicts among ourselves before the White man.
We had a concept called the Peace Village.
When was was declared, non-combatants set up a Peace Village and both tribes left it alone.
The first people to violate these boundaries by attacking wives and children in the Peace Village were Canadians of the French variety in 1730.
Which is why our people felt entirely justified in the scalping and slave trading of captured French Canadians.
They broke our sacred boundaries of war.
The artistic renderings are exquisite - they really depict the horrors of war on the men and their horses.
I am so very appreciative of your content offering. Voices of the past is what was missing in my public education that made me thirsty for what history is really made of of. Thank you so much😎
As always, an amazing a unique sliver of history. I learn so much from these videos.
I'm from northeastern Oklahoma and have visited most of the battle sites mentioned on multiple occasions; the skirmishes in what was then Indian Territory were frequent and bloody affairs.
This man was an incredibly talented writer. This reads more like a novel than an historical account.
My Cherokee Great-grandfather is is on the Dawes Roll. His grandfather fought on both sides of the civil war
That's awesome man. Be proud of who you are.
My ancestors are on the Choctaw Nation Census of Tribal Citizens by blood & intermarriage living in the Chickasaw Clan District Village of the Choctaw Nation. That's also where they were from, up until my mom's lifetime.
Our ancestors were on both sides. Like you said, some of those Civil War Veterans of both sides had descendants by tribal members after the war and became intermarried to tribal citizens.
Do you know which side he started and ended?
I appreciate how back then people would also take daft picture of themselves too.
-They probably had to stand there for a little while though for the picture to be taken, which really shows their commitment to the bit _🙏_
This is a wonderful channel, and so revealing. All the suffering throughout history, and yet, we never seem to learn. All of these historical documents to remind us, and yet we don’t read them, in schools. It would be easy to fix. But there aren’t enough people, who comprehend this, sadly, for the human species to evolve past the need for war.
We learn A LOT. We're not naked cannibals fighting with spears & mocking the doomed victims, but have 2,000+ years of civilization behind us and as a group, constantly improve through the ages. Disturbing to me is the recent fashion of discarding hard won cultural & social knowledge.
Many 1st worlders aren't well enough educated at home to appreciate their journey & protect the values that brought us here, 3rd worlders want what we have in goods, but likewise couldn't care less about the reasons we achieved what we did.
Self gratification alone will never achieve anything positive for humanity and there'sthe impetus for war: Greed. We think a lot alike I suppose 😊
Always excited when I see you upload
Not gonna lie thought the thumbnail said A Greek Warrior at first and was very confused for the first two minutes of the video
"Wdym we have to buy cotton from the Ottomans?" -Greece, probably
One of my favourite channels. Thank you for all that you do.
I had to look at that thumbnail twice, the font made me think it was a Greek warrior in the civil war o0
Haha, that's exactly how I read it too at first
This is Spartanburg!
Best TH-cam channel ever
Thanks Seth!
I’m so glad you’re still making videos. So many history channels that’s haven’t uploaded in over a year
Just another supportive comment. Very happy TH-cam recommended this to me. Your channel is a lucky find. Thanks for the work in the detail. Very entertaining. 🤙🏼🙏🏼
Always happy to see a new video from you.
Thank you for having a rich taste in music, the song in the beginning is beautiful. For anyone searching it’s blood in the bayou by river lume and spearfish.
Oh shit, more absolutely gold content!
Always a top end post when its voices of the path
There's something about this people's perspective take on history that I enjoy very much.
This is fascinating! I never really thought about the role of Native Americans in the Civil War. Hearing them fight for the Confederacy is intriguing, and while the first-hand account is great, I really want to know what the larger political motivations were. Did they view themselves as part of the South? Did the Confederates view them as citizens? Or were they perhaps offered a better treaty than the Union government gave them? Did they own slaves? I'll have to do some more reading into it.
A good few Indians owned slaves and most of the rest had no shortage of bones to pick with the federal government.
They owned a good amount of slaves, and the South just like the Dems of today probably promised them the world when really just using them
Yes they had slaves and the Union has to March into Oklahoma to free them.
Something you won’t find in history books mainstream.
To be incredibly reductive - some owned slaves, some thought the confederacy would give them a better deal as allies or to be autonomous states, and some just really wanted revenge on the Federal Government. (Missed a lot but these three I remember being big points when I covered it in uni)
The majority of English-speaking Christian Indians were from ‘the 5 civilized tribes;’ the Choctaw, Creek, Seminole, Cherokee, and Chickasaw. These were agricultural, populous societies that retained a larger population after white settlement. They were deported from their homeland in the southeast to Oklahoma by Jackson, despite being well-integrated into antebellum society.
This is such a great channel. Thank you for your inspiring hard work
thanks for retelling another wonderful account.
U needa post more my guy🫡💯
Jeez, I really liked this one. A pinhole to the history of the beautiful land we now occupy.
Yass so happy to find another channel of this story telling voice
"Endeavour to persevere! And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union" - Lone Watie
Awesome content, thanks for all of these first hand perspectives
Thank you for this compelling account
Always enjoy these unbiased first accounts of historic events.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's an "unbiased" account but rather a first hand account. Humans are biased, to us this is a historical artifacts and document but to the author it's his diary and his writings about what he thinks and feels. It's "biased" in favor of the author and his experiences, and how he remembers something that happened.
@@noco7243 I can see that
@@noco7243 - I took the "unbiased" statement to mean the video creator not interjecting his own views in the retelling.
I don't know if that's how the OP intended it, or not, but that has merit.
Took ten days to find this memoir what a time capsule.
I love the eloquent and elliptic Victorian prose.
17:45 is the absolute most badass thing that I've ever heard.
excellent choice of source material
Something I never even knew I needed.
My great grandfather, Samuel Stogner, rode with “The Catawba Rangers” from Lancaster South Carolina (and Incidentally: The Waxhaw’s; and The Catawba’s helped Ol’ A.J. win the Revolutionary war). During the Civil War the Catawba’s numbers were down considerably; but still 19 men fought with the South and saw combat throughout Virginia (to the best of my understanding).
Love these videos. I feel like a time traveler listening to them🤯
I wish that guy with the cool hat knew people were still hearing about it lol.
This channel makes 💯 great content
Always enlightening. Thank you.
I like that you put Dixie in the background!
Already one of my favorite accounts and I found it yesterday
4:56 Chilly McIntosh is my great uncle, as well is his brother Daniel McIntosh, Colonel of the 1st Creek Mounted Volunteers. Their father Chief William McIntosh is my 6X great grandfather.
My ancestor was named McIntosh Rentie (or Rentie McIntosh). An enslaved African from the the west coast. He ended up going from Georgia to Oklahoma. And his offspring were listed on the Creek roll as Freedmen. I am strongly assuming that he was enslaved by MIxed race McIntosh of the Creek nation. His descendants took Rentie as their last name and founded the Rentie settlement
Hello cousin. I am a McIntosh by my Grandmother Bessie Lara maiden name Scott. They are in our family tree as well. We moved to Eufaula OK, McIntosh county when I was in 6th grade. Had to check the family tree before you dated anyone...
My ears perked up when I heard Chili Mcintosh as there was an older cousin named Chili Mcintosh, brother of Rolie and Stanly. Stanly did my braces and Rolie once stitched my toe at the clinic. Then I remembered his name was Greyson and remembered another cousin who move back a year after I did named Greyson and it clicked.
Small world!
Great premise for a channel
Good stuff. Keep it coming
It’s worth noting that most of the photographs and prints seen here are from the eastern theater; mainly in and around Virginia.
For instance, the photograph at 10:30 is a photograph taken in Fredericksburg, Virginia sometime between 1862 and 1863. It’s a rare example of a photograph taken by a confederate photography team as the south had very few photography teams.
Many of the others were taken either within the Army of the Potomac or the Army of the James between 1862 and 1865.
Very cool. Thanks for uploading.
Love this stuff! Thanks
Great content, as always.
I love this channel.
Another great video! Thank you!
I love the fact that American History won't even attempt to cover up the fact that children were fighting in the Civil War.
Teenaged motards aren't children. And this was before 18 years old became the magic age of doing anything you want
Awesome as always!
Will you do any serbian or south slavic sources?
Change some of the details and wording and I'd believe this could be a modern war diary. I find history most engaging when it's personal accounts like this, every history class should open with a personal account about an event before giving the boring stats and big events.
Love these
I was literally thinking about this.
Glad to see this thanks for the story keep up the good content
Love your content as always!
I love how it’s a British guy reading all this.
Btw, great work •3•
I read that thumbnail as "A Greek Warrior in the Civil War" and thought that this would be a much more unique story!
William Holland Thomas was a white man who was adopted into the Cherokee when they were still in North Carolina. In fact, he was able to save a number of Cherokee from being deported to Indian territory (modern-day Oklahoma) by having them separate from the official Cherokee nation and purchase their own land; even giving them a form of nominal citizenship as recognized by the state of North Carolina.
He ended up forming his own unit, known as Thomas’s Legion of Cherokee Indians and Highlanders. They were called a “legion” because they were a mixed unit of artillery, cavalry, and infantry, which is distinct from a typical regiment.
Most of the engagements they fought in were in the Appalachian mountains, though were sent elsewhere during the war. Most notably, they fought during the Battle of Cedar Creek during the Union’s second Valley campaign.
what a story
A series I recently watched called The English reminded of this.
As a complete outsider, it was fascinating to hear this story of the Civil War in the native people who displaced to Oklahoma during Andrew Jackson’s time and its Trail of Tears.
It’s interesting to hear that many of the Creek and Choctaw people had both Indian and Christian names.
Many these young men still retained their warrior spirit and fought not so much for the Confederacy as for the idea that they were protecting their homeland and way of life.
As mentioned in one of the comments below, some Indian tribes and groups joined the Union forces to fight for the north. It was definitely a very confusing time as far as loyalty goes. Many of the Indian groups had mixed ethnicities due to the fact that they welcomed escaped slaves and other outsiders into their societies.
We should remember that this was less than sixty years after the Louisiana Purchase from France in 1803. For almost 200 years before the Civil War, Frenchmen intermarried with various Native American tribes. In many tribes, French was spoken by at least a few people for trade purposes and was more widely spoken than English.
Remind me of a historical fiction novel called Creek Mary's blood. If you like this you might be interested in that novel it was really good
Now this is something I have never thought about, interesting.
Excellent narration.
Dear Voices of the past,
Would you consider making a video about Iron Age India, or the Greek-Bactrian Kingdoms? They are very interesting subjects and I feel are often overlooked in history. If you would ever like help making or researching videos I would love to help
Awesome!! (for the algorithm)
Where did you find that rendition of “Dixie?” It’s quite beautiful.
Please do more ❤
I have family that fought in this regiment !
That was a fine story.
I swear to god i almost jumped when i heard the wake up trumpet (i use it as my wake up alarm)