This video is very concerning: th-cam.com/video/db2_qRHLUV4/w-d-xo.html 4:12 C-Webb says to Shaq; it just took you and some dirty refs to beat us. Isaiah Thomas (Detroit Piston) and Barron Davis laughed. C-Webb been goes on to say something like "I'm not trying to get fired, I love the NBA!" Shaq just laughs - what can he say?! 😮 But if Shaq knew he was innocent, why would he just laugh?! What do you think?
And then this one: th-cam.com/video/tcOt6fWIHdI/w-d-xo.html Both Steve Smith (Trail Blazers) and C-Webb (Sacramento Kings) seemed very much like; c'mon Shaq! Stop pretending.... Doesn't look good for Shaq and the 3-peat Lakers to me....
@@willhooke i presume you dont have a laugh with your mates much then? a joke doesnt always require a response. Makes you look uncomfortable and fragile if you do always have to respond.
@@christopherrecinos2988 this representation is so bad. They are trying to re-write what happened and control our thinking. Straight garbage! If you haven't watched the game, I think you should.
@@kingsfansneak1886 yeah lol, ronnie was once the head of the refs so he'll ought to defend them. i stopped watching the nba after this robbery for almost a decade >.
Yeah they've done this a shit ton of times. It's the easiest to do it basketball but they've had a shit ton of terrible calls in football to help teams too.
1/1, the problem wasn't with the "same amount of good/bad calls", yeah the refs were thrash but it was so obviously biased in those crucial ones, killing the momentum etc. I mean was this video made just for the hot take? It's almost confirmed it was rigged.
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SC Divac and his backup Scott Pollard were both targeted and fouled out in this series. So did Webber. And once they had Lawrence Funderburke guarding Shaq because they had no more bigs, it definitely kept LA’s hopes alive
I'ma Lakers fan and that game was rigged. I've seen some blatantly rigged games throughout my lifetime, this was one of them, the NBA doesn't pick the winners/losers in a playoff series, but they do extend series' and force it to be decided in a game 7, they do have their favourites for ratings purposes and it's usually always about ratings, not that they favor a certain player or team directly but if it was going to be Kings vs Nets in the Finals, but they could do what they did to make it a Lakers Nets Final with a Shaq-Kobe 3 peat on the line, it was obvious what the league preferred. They did a similar thing in the 2016 NBA Finals when they suspended Draymond for Game 5 and threw Steph out of the game in Game 6, they let it be decided in 7 games because that Finals being over in 5 would have been disappointing but what that did is leave it to the injury gods who picked the Warriors to take down that year.
It went both ways, yes some calls were bad against Divac and Pollard but Shaq and Kobe also got fouled a lot with no calls. it was just bad officiating period!
It was pretty pathetic because the Lakers were crushing teams that year so what's wrong with a little competition. Suddenly it became a problem because a small market David was a legit threat to a big market Goliath. Real talk Kobe should have 4 rings and Shaq should have 3.
No they choked the crucial game 7 of wcf and lost But Kings fans will hold on to this game like it is a reason their franchise has been failure for 70 years
I hate the NBA's logic of "we need a high profile team in the finals or ratings will suffer." Honestly, I could care less if the Lakers, Knicks, or Celtics aren't in the finals. In fact, I feel more interested in watching if there is an underdog type team in the finals, or if it's two teams that don't historically make it. People will watch the finals regardless. I doubt the casual fan will feel more inclined to watch the NBA finals just because the Lakers are in it.
You're right. I think the motivation was the league wanted a Game 7 considering how popular that series was. I remember it was talked about as the "real" finals that year. And yes I do think this game was rigged, I don't think an honest person can watch the fourth quarter in real time and conclude otherwise.
They just wanted the revenue of another game.. But I do have to disagree with you.. Even tho the NBA league is a sport.. It's still entertainment.. And major markets draw bigger views.. For example.. The pheonix suns vs the Milwaukee bucks last year was one of the lowest watched finals ever. So yes..I can understand why they want big market teams to flourish.
@Nelekets It has been the NBA's M.O. since 1980 where you have teams like the Boston Celtics, Chicago Detroit Pistons, Golden State Warriors, Houston Rockets, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat, and San Antonio Spurs made the NBA Finals at least three times. Also since 1980, you have at least one NBA Finals involving these super/megastar players in Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Isiah Thomas, Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Kobe Byrant, LeBron James, and Stephen Curry. For example in 2002, if the Sacramento Kings were in the NBA Finals, then, the Boston Celtics have to be there. That being said, a Lakers-Celtics 2002 NBA Finals would've been arguably better.
@@thatsarockwell like it or not the political overtones the league employed that year turned millions of people off. Not saying I agree or disagree but when you firmly side with one side of a divisive political paradigm, especially during that time, its going to turn the other side away. NBA has backed off quite a bit and ratings have gone up again. Denver vs Miami, two “small” markets, did just fine
you can tell your 'man' that he wasted his damn time lol. It was rigged? Ahhh, okay - let's see...so: You expected to win with Christie and Peja stinking it up like that? And against a Kobe Bryant that absolutely demolished them *IN Arco* in the playoffs the season prior. Dafuk u smoking lol. You expected to win when nobody but Bibby had his competitive brain hooked up straight? Even Adleman was making weak excuses. Here's a brutal truth: If you want a title - it's the same as it's been for all eternity: you have to *TAKE IT* . The refs are not there to give it to you. Nothing more nothing less, end of.
I normally love all of Ronnie’s videos, but he left out a decent amount of bad calls in this, and I feel like he tried to defend the refs way too much.
BBALLBREAKDOWN I know and I am excited, it just seemed like you were going in relatively chronological order, and I think there were a few calls from the first half you missed, unless they were obviously going to be included into the second part.
Shit was fixed only way for the kings to win games they had to blow them out if not the refs was gonna make sure lakers won it’s a disgrace and I’m a laker fan smh
i saw the title and shrieked. had to call mike d'antoni, grab some popcorn and sit on my recliner chair for this one. *A Breakdown in the history books.*
@@bballbreakdown controversial! I was in the camp of "Rigged" before I saw this. But the videos I have seen only show the terrible calls against the Kings, not the Lakers. But what really surprises me, is that IF the calls were equally terrible, that the Prime Shaq + Kobe Lakers had such a hard time against the Kings. That means the Kings were amazing! And unlucky to come up against such a strong Lakers team. Are there any elements from how the Kings played, that can be transferred to modern BBall? Looking forwards to Part 2. +++ I also understand that the Lakers Vs Trailblazers was rigged, again based on what I have seen from YT. Would love an equivalent Breakdown of that infamous series as well :)
@@bballbreakdown I don't know where your Part 2 goes, but this looks very condemning to me: th-cam.com/video/db2_qRHLUV4/w-d-xo.html 4:12 C-Webb says to Shaq; "it just took you and some dirty refs to beat us." Isaiah Thomas (Detroit Piston) and Barron Davis laughed. C-Webb been goes on to say something like "I'm not trying to get fired, I love the NBA!" Shaq just laughs - what can he say?! If Shaq didn't feel the Lakers got unfair treatment, I would have thought he would say something very different to just laughing it off. 😮
You must be joking Nick. The momentum was totally ruined for Sacramento. Did you even watch the game live? Stop trying to rewrite history just so you can have a hot take.
@@rdknight89 this video wasn't necessary. The question is why make the video. -just to get some attention and get love from the big market of LA? It's pretty sick what happened. If Webber didn't go down in the next year's playoffs it would have been an easier pill to swallow, but because that Sacramento team didn't ever win a championship it puts more scrutiny on this game. Did you watch this game? And are you a Laker fan? In response to this these are fair questions. If you are not a Laker fan and have not watched the game, I invite you to watch it, and you will see how NBA refs control games, and worse how they tainted the NBA's reputation in one game.
Yeah I'm sure this game did have you feeling some kind of way, "@@kingsfansneak1886" but a) that wasn't the question b) I watched this game live as a teenager, c) I'm a grizzlies fan and d) you can't just call something a hot take just because they disagreed with your preconceived narrative
@@rdknight89 I just don't understand why this was brought up. Unless you are fighting to say the Kings deserve something else besides a loss in the WCFs. No one is talking about this, it's not a hot topic, in fact no one is talking about this, so why go through the trouble of saying... The Kings lost in the WCFs? It's angering, for no reason at all, unless you are a you tuber trying to get some hype, and who are you catering to? The LA market? If so... the man is sick.
@@dodgerfreak0834 Are you sure? th-cam.com/video/db2_qRHLUV4/w-d-xo.html 4:12 C-Webb says to Shaq; it just took you and some dirty refs to beat us. Isaiah Thomas (Detroit Piston) and Barron Davis laughed. C-Webb been goes on to say something like "I'm not trying to get fired, I love the NBA!" Shaq just laughs - what can he say?! Seems clear to me....
Do you guys have ANY actual evidence that it was rigged? Like literally anything at all? Bad officiating is not evidence that there was also a secret conspiracy. And as the video shows, the Lakers were getting just as many bad calls as the Kings. Seems like pretty incompetent rigging to let the game stay so close and to hand out so many bad calls in favor of the Kings.
@@finewinedaily4997 ideally the game would be close and the calls benefiting both teams so as to create doubt. Honestly part 2 is the important piece because it is the 4th quarter and the calls during the end stretch of the game that defined how people see this game and how the refereeing influenced the outcome. These missed calls in the 2nd quarter are inconsequential to the final minutes of the game because, as you said, they benefit both teams.
la acts like they had this killer team in 2002 but they were playing samaki walker in general starting robert horry vs doug christie which wasn't even close and playing a old brian shaw major minutes and a young devan george unironically meanwhile the kings had a bench of bobby jackson hedo turkoglu and scott pollard lawrence funderburke as well as gerald wallace chucky brown which shat on the lakers bench that year...smdh...sure la had kobe shaq fisher fox but the kings had webber peja bibby divac
ppl loved the kings nation wide. many east cost kids would have rooted for the kings. they were exciting to watch. no super star names like LA but closest we ever got to a street ball style of play w/ the handle n passing
@@MrJ1S agree, kobe and shaq was the superstars in that series, but overall kings had a better roster and should've won that effing series if not for the refs fking up this game.
Best passing team I ever saw. Great chemistry. And it was really cool having all these guys from different countries alongside Americans on the same team.
Everyone knows it was rigged. The Kings were flat out cheated according to the rules. I was never a Sacramento fan. This one game showed me the NBA was a show altogether. Shaq was allowed to break every single rule on the planet that year. The NBA has been fake ever since this game. Even all time NBA legends were laughing constantly weight in on how bad this game was called in the Lakers favor. Three of the refs in this game pled guilty to betting on games. David Stern used them as scapegoats. They tried to put it all on Tim Donaghy.
Exactly. A ref literally went to jail for admitting the game was fixed in order to get the lakers to win. The lakers did not deserve to be in the finals that year
@@davidkelly1507 Yeah, I misunderstood you. It's a complicated call and a weak one on that play, but I think Ronnie was trying to say that Shaq's reaction to it (curling his arm up under) threw the ref off and lured him into a bad call. That fake arm curl happens all the time in the league even now and refs still haven't fully figured it out.
What really happened was clearly explained by Tim Donaghy. He made allegations to the FBI regarding this series. Unless he's addressed in part 2 of this vid, there is no way Coach Nick can say what really happened.
yep, i love coach nick, but ronnie is biased towards the nba and especially his fellow refs. so nope stopped at 3 mins :x. i knew what happened in this game.
@@metalsadman Yea and say game 5 was a clean game with a straight face. So much anti-Lakers hate here to justify that their teams are inferior to the Lakers
Most obvious rigging ever.Kings were gonna run the Lakers out of the building that game until the refs kept killing every run opportunity with BS call after BS call.I stopped looking at the Nba as a legitimate sport.It’s really like the WWE.
It was as rigged as it gets, they didn’t even bother to hide it. 27 free throws in the 4th. Smh. I’ve never liked the lakers since then. Kobe a monster and i really love his game but he didn’t earn that ring.
@Humphrey Jones Whenever anyone just responds that missed 3's number it's an automatic tell of a low IQ.. Rockets were up double digits at halftime and should have had another 15 points that game, and that's conservative.
@@aja3longhorn375 Cause people see it as more of a choke than it being rigged. Missing 27 straight 3s tell you that the Rockets never wanted to adjust and legs were gone from defending the warriors in a 7 game series. The rockets were still up like double digits with the most blatant fouls. And finally even with those fouls that weren't called nobody has sympathy for the refs not blowing the whistle for James Harden of all people
@@bigdog9507 I see what you are saying but I recommend you watch the video of the ref highlights from that game and then come back and see if you still feel that way. Was it a choke? Absolutely. Should it have even been possible for that to happen? Absolutely not. The Rockets should have been up 25 in that game going into the third quarter with how poorly it was officiated.
@@hydros25 It's one thing to say that and then be cheated by 15-20 points and lose by less than 10. It is arguably the worst called game I've ever seen in my life. Watch the highlights of the calls and let me know what you think afterward.
The Kings have never won a Championship. They had a real shot of winning that year. Being born in Sacramento and rooting for them for so many crappy seasons before this it really upset me this fixed loss.
10:40 that is not a good call? He doesn't impede Shaq's landing area and his arms are straight up and he doesn't even leave his feet. The only contact I saw was Shaq initiating contact with his off forearm.
I miss being a kid I watched Nba everyday from 2000-2003 always watched the Lakers as they were usually on but my favorite all time player is Reggie Miller. Even got to see him make the finals in 2000. These days were some amazing the quality, jerseys and nostalgic feel just makes me sad and happy.
If the Kings were better than the Lakers, they should've sealed the deal by making a few more stops and scores to win either Games 4, 6, or 7 of the 2002 WCF, but they didn't when they lost all three and the 2002 WCF altogether. Now, the Kings have to suffer even more when other teams beat them to the punch for NBA titles and NBA Finals appearances since 2002 while they have a snakebitten hat trick of having the NBA's longest NBA title, NBA Finals appearance, and NBA playoff appearance droughts.
Shaq wasn't given a free pass to bulldoze defenders😂 That's just how strong he is. It's part of the game and if you don't like the physicality then go watch chess. His "elbows" aren't illegal because he doesn't hit the defenders with his elbow but with his upper arm.
10:30 Nunn is absolutely incorrect. Pollard was closing out while Shaq was jumping away from the basket for a sky hook. Pollard did not jump under Shaq at all. Shit call, shit analysis.
Agreed. Can't deny his tenure as a ref or director of refs but the guy seems to offer little above a chewbacca defence when discussing a case. First time I saw him interviewed was about James Haden's constant uncalled travelling. When presented with a number of wildly obvious travels, his response was to address them as a group and explain that "it's all about the dance..." Sorry, what? What 'dance' are you talking about Ronnie? I can only conclude that what he meant was "James makes it look so smooth and beautiful that we're just going to let it go". In other words, an admission of systematic, sanctioned and blatant travelling. Nice.
@@plefevre My sentiments EXACTLY! Just admit, "It happens so fast, and often looks so similar, we miss a lot." Don't lie and say it's legal. "It's only two steps. Look, I'll count them out 0-1-2." WTF? Please stop!
Everything that Ronnie said in this video, and most everything he's said in every other video, has been very accurate. You just don't like what he has to say so you're finding ways to dismiss it. And that is not at all what Ronnie said when addressing James Harden. Why do you feel the need to lie about this stuff? He very carefully broke down a number of plays James Harden was in and specifically laid out why each play was or was not a travel
@@ShareefusMaximus You are either not understanding or deliberately ignoring what Ronnie was saying in the videos. In the NBA - and college and high school for that matter - you are allowed a "gather step" that does not count towards your two steps. 0 is the gather step, then steps 1 and 2. It takes time to transition the ball away from a dribble and into your hands. Being able to take advantage of the gather step while staying fast and in control is extremely difficult, which is why you don't see anyone in college or high school, or even many people in the NBA, able to take advantage of it well.
@@finewinedaily4997 LMFAO who the f*ck are you? His agent? Fall back and wipe his jiz off your chin. He's dragged you into fantasy land? Be happy there. Some of us don't want to go. I didn't say sh*t about James Harden so don't put f*cking words in my mouth. LMFAO@U4 thinking I was going to follow you into some kind of debate. #Nope They MAKE these video for clowns like YOU and I leave these comments for everybody else. F*ck out.
Loyal2law man, I wish the suns pulled it off that year so bad. Steve Nash deserves a title and they definitely could of beaten Cleveland. Or LeBron would of beat them and stayed in Cleveland and never started the super team era.
@@jamesr169 As salty as I still am with the Suns not getting through, what rubs my scars a lot more is the fact that the Suns we're not robbed of the supposed championship, but the opportunity to be there. Now, it's going to be a bunch of what ifs, and I hate that.
James Roggero The Celtics started the superteam era once they got KG and Ray Allen to play with Paul Pierce. Lebron was playing them without another superstar while dropping 40+ and still losing games. Also the Spurs had Tim, Manu, Tony all in their primes when they were great. Even if Lebron didn’t go to Miami the league would still have superteams cause the Thunder big 3 probably still would’ve been together and they would’ve ran the league. Superteams have always been around in every era since the Wilt and Bill Russell days.
@6:15: "Unclear how this merits a whistle": Kobe sticks his hand in above the opposing player's left wrist/forearm all the time so they can't lift up to shoot fluidly. That's not actually allowed even though it isn't a swiping motion. So when he went to pass the ball, they called a foul since Kobe's hand altered what the offensive player was doing. Legit call. @12.44: "There appears to be very little contact": Disagree. He reached in and impeded his dribbling by hitting his right arm. The camera angle you're using doesn't show it, so you will have to extrapolate what is taking place behind the King's player's body. Lakers player reaches in, clearly hits him with his arm, THEN the dribble is lost. That does not happen "before the contact". The foul is why he lost the dribble.
I remember this game like it was yesterday. It showed how bias the league could be. Honestly the NBA wasn't all that fun to watch. Too many teams had superstars on sorry teams. It wasn't until the 2004 Pistons that the East had a respectable team in the Finals. I used to be surprised when San Antonio became a legit dynasty but then the NBA started their Globalization. Unfortunately it seems like the Kings franchise never fully recovered but with their current team they have potential to be great again.
Sacramento was a small market team While the Lakers were a big market team. David Stern feels that if a Small Market team is in the Finals the NBA would lose money, that's why it was rigged.
NBA Games shouldn't be determined on ratings, every game has to be officiated fairly and I admit blown calls will happen but if it was 1 or 2 but it shouldn't effect the entire game.
People want to make like the calls were one sided for the Lakers when in reality there were terrible calls against both sides. So no I don't believe there was some sort of corruption from Stern, it was just bad officiating. I'm glad this video shows all the bad calls not just the ones that went on lakers favor.
All the Sacramento Kings had to do is to turn off the distractions like the referees and play basketball to make a few more stops and shots to win either Games 4, 6, or 7 of the 2002 WCF and make the NBA Finals. What happened? The Kings lost all three and blew their chance to win it all in 2002. 2003 was a better chance for the Kings with a better and deeper squad and a more solid defense until Chris Webber tore his lateral meniscus in his knee against the Dallas Mavericks. Now, the Kings have to suffer even more when other teams beat them to the punch for NBA titles and NBA Finals appearances since while they have a snakebitten hat trick.
I thought the game was called mostly regularly in the first half and the beginning of the third quarter. Some good calls, some bad calls, but nothing really out of the ordinary. But then the wheels fell off the wagon, and just sunk into unseen fishy levels.
As a Kings fan, same. Shit happens for the first 3 quarters. Kings got some calls to go their way too. But the last few minutes of the 4th Quarter, and that Kobe Jon Jones style elbow to Mike Bibby's face in front of the ref, and the call went against Bibby? Well, at that point I guess the refs said "Aw fuck it, I think everyone already knows"
I went back into the game logs and video just to make sure I remembered this correctly, but this is actually the second time in the series in which Kobe elbowed a Kings defender in the nose, and the Kings got whistled for a foul. In game one, Doug Christie plays tights defense, gets an accident elbow to the nose from Kobe, and Dick Bavetta inexplicably calls a blocking foul. th-cam.com/video/PjEXupO9YqY/w-d-xo.html Kobe's elbow must've been sore from those times the Kings defenders contacted it with their faces.
Here is a couple of facts that most sports fans don't understand, but they are true and you can realize I am correct by just a few minutes of research... There is no law preventing a referee in any sport here in the United States from making calls which help one team over another. It's true. The executives of the NBA, NFL, MLB or the NHL can instruct the referees to make calls that either help certain players or teams more likely to win. A league instructing it's officials to call games a certain way to help a team, or importantly using calls to make the games more exciting or to push a certain story line is completely legal. It's just considered the same as an employer, the league instructing it's employees, the refs to do their job the way they are instructed. Secondly, the media companies and networks who cover the leagues and broadcast the games have a financial interest in making sure that game fixing scandals are not known to the public. Does anybody think that ESPN or any other sports network who pays these leagues billions of dollars to broadcast their games is going to report on a game fixing story that will cut into their profits which come directly from broadcasting the games? Is ESPN going to break a game fixing story knowing full well that if the public found out the NBA was rigging games, it would cost them possibly millions of viewers? Of course not! No sports broadcast network or their parent companies are going to report game fixing, and lose money. The only time they ever talk about it is if they are forced to by a scandal that was uncovered by accident by the FBI like the Tim Donaghy scandal. The NBA is fixed for sure by the league to increase ratings, excitement and to extend series. This makes them tens of millions of dollars more than they would if they just let the games be played fairly. If you were in charge of the NBA, wouldn't you try to extend the series for extra money too especially if it were perfectly legal? Well it is. The key is to control the narrative, and just don't get caught.
@@bballbreakdown true but he made some pretty damning allegations about the reffing re this game/series. An angle worth taking into account in any case. Thanks for the reply. Love your videos as always.
Yes, it was rigged. They don't call fouls on the lakers. Even against the sixers in 2001. Fisher hitting iverson's face, shooting arm and no fouls called. Shaq hits mutumbo's face with his elbow when he takes a shot, and no offensive foul. Lakers are fake champions to me. I cannot unsee those no calls by the refs
Honestly this was the worst called series I have ever seen the kings played excellent against the lakers but every time it seemed when they made runs the refs made sure they never blew out the lakers!!
just shut the fuck up if you were a fucking Lakers fan since 99 you wouldn't say it and i'm fucking Rockets fan and i dont blame the refs for the loss in game 7 against GS
Wau..weird..I have JUST watched game 5 from that series before you upload this..I was/am a HUGE kings fan, and yes I've wondered ever since that day. Til this day it hurts so bad rewatching the series knowing it easily could have ended with a Kings victory and most likely a championship. Thank you so much for making this breakdown coach!
Man, if coach's hype music ever gets copyright claimed by someone. That person is essentially stealing his livelihood. Its the same thing as cutting off the fingers of a nba player.
Heat 2005 lost against the Pistons..all the money they had put on Shaq how the league kissed Pat Rileys ass..no chance in hell they could afford to let them lose.
The Kings were absolutely robbed in this game, full stop. Ronnie Nunn is defending his guys but idk how you watch those clips of these absurd fouls against the Kings and defend the refs, there has to be accountability which starts with admitting the refs blew this game at best, at worst it was rigged. Lakers had 27 free throws in the 4th Q!!! That's a lot for an entire game and they got that many in one quarter. Unacceptable for the NBA which is only looking out for their $$$ rather than the integrity of the game and letting the players, coaches, and teams decide the outcome game regardless of star players or franchise market size. Also I'm not a Kings fan so unbiased opinion here.
I stopped watching the NBA after this game. 21 years later and I still don't watch the NBA. Once it's obvious that you're rigging games, there's no coming back from that.
Ronnie Nunn...the guy who claims Harden's stepback is not a travel by not counting 1,2, 3..but instead counting 0,1,2. I have to question his credibility because of that..
IT WAS RIGGED!! Maybe it wasn’t a ratings conspiracy but somebody in a position of power had money on the lakers. Nobody will ever change my mind! Not even you, coach
As others have said, the problem with this is that the timing and frequency of fouls favored the Lakers were really what people had a problem with. The Lakers getting 15 more free throws and 7 more fouls to key players is indicative of an overall difference in the officiating. Beyond individual calls refs try to call balanced games and the overall frequency of foul calls is definitely on their minds mid game. While many of the fouls in the early game could be legitimate, it’s the run itself preceded not just by foul call precedents like illegal screens but also knowledge of foul trouble and foul call frequency that’s the problem. The refs made adjustments to call things they hadn’t before but who that change favored overall is important particularly for that 4th quarter.
"It's time, to end this debate once and for all.."
"sports fans, we got part 2 coming up soon"
This video is very concerning:
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4:12 C-Webb says to Shaq; it just took you and some dirty refs to beat us.
Isaiah Thomas (Detroit Piston) and Barron Davis laughed.
C-Webb been goes on to say something like "I'm not trying to get fired, I love the NBA!"
Shaq just laughs - what can he say?! 😮
But if Shaq knew he was innocent, why would he just laugh?!
What do you think?
And then this one:
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Both Steve Smith (Trail Blazers) and C-Webb (Sacramento Kings) seemed very much like; c'mon Shaq! Stop pretending....
Doesn't look good for Shaq and the 3-peat Lakers to me....
@@willhooke i presume you dont have a laugh with your mates much then? a joke doesnt always require a response. Makes you look uncomfortable and fragile if you do always have to respond.
@@willhooke webber set an illegal pick to set up bibby to win game 5
@@willhooke who the fuck are you talking to?
It took four years for me to restart watching the NBA after this series. It was just disgusting to watch as a basketball fan in general.
bruh. i feel you. was 7 years for me
Exactly how i felt recently with the Warriors v HOU when Harden and the Rockets got robbed smh.
Same!
true..everyone brings up a few iffy calls every series but that game 6 was insane...true rigging for a game 7 if I ever seen it...
John Griller shut up crybaby harden choked
Hes a great guy and very smart, but Ronnie is also gonna defend the reffing as much as possible because of course he is.
So true
Aiden Rae That’s what I was wondering too, why was he even brought on?
Even then though, he admitted most of the calls were wrong
@@christopherrecinos2988 this representation is so bad. They are trying to re-write what happened and control our thinking. Straight garbage! If you haven't watched the game, I think you should.
@@kingsfansneak1886 yeah lol, ronnie was once the head of the refs so he'll ought to defend them. i stopped watching the nba after this robbery for almost a decade >.
As a NBA fanatic, this is the lowest thing the league has EVER done, and it makes me upset how the INTEGRITY of the game was stripped
Sad thing is, the league did this a bunch of times. Once my favorite players retired I watch almost zero games now
Yeah they've done this a shit ton of times. It's the easiest to do it basketball but they've had a shit ton of terrible calls in football to help teams too.
So why let the nets win ? Boston came back from 20 plus deficit so tell me why its s problem for the Lakers to win by 1 after being down 20. Gtfoh 🤬
@Javian Johnson Sour grapes from you.
BTW, this so-called NBA favoritism for big markets and super/megastar players succeeding started in 1980.
@CULI-FABRIZIO But the Mavs got payback on the Heat in 2011 and the Bad Boys Pistons won back-to-back in 1989 and 1990 to overcome 1988.
I actually was crying for the kings 😢
Cody Finlay fuck them queens
I was too! Smh
burnt it into shit who elbowed my Bibby
Was in Sacramento that year, it was ridiculous.
Yup refs were garbage both ways but idiots still claim they only sucked for Kings
Orest Pellumb FOH, Kings got shafted. They had free throw problems but the officiating was completely biased
1/1, the problem wasn't with the "same amount of good/bad calls", yeah the refs were thrash but it was so obviously biased in those crucial ones, killing the momentum etc. I mean was this video made just for the hot take? It's almost confirmed it was rigged.
Selfish Stockton 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️you clearly didn’t watch the video you already have made up your mind which is false but hey it’s your opinion
Alex Googlehead 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Kings list because they weren’t better than Shaq or Kobe get over it
Me: *Hears the other music that doesn't get me hyped*
Me: Damn, I wish coach nick would put on the other musi..... 1:30
Me: AWWWW HELL YAH
I don't know what the music clip is, but it is epic!
Sooooo true
@Matthew Spurs who doesn't. How many series have an ex refs say it is rigged.
timing of that "calls" is what we are missing here.When SAC made the run they cut it with bad calls and obviously they targeting Divac
SC Divac and his backup Scott Pollard were both targeted and fouled out in this series. So did Webber. And once they had Lawrence Funderburke guarding Shaq because they had no more bigs, it definitely kept LA’s hopes alive
This. You can watch the last three minutes of the game on TH-cam, and it's just completely ridiculous. There is zero excuse.
I'ma Lakers fan and that game was rigged. I've seen some blatantly rigged games throughout my lifetime, this was one of them, the NBA doesn't pick the winners/losers in a playoff series, but they do extend series' and force it to be decided in a game 7, they do have their favourites for ratings purposes and it's usually always about ratings, not that they favor a certain player or team directly but if it was going to be Kings vs Nets in the Finals, but they could do what they did to make it a Lakers Nets Final with a Shaq-Kobe 3 peat on the line, it was obvious what the league preferred. They did a similar thing in the 2016 NBA Finals when they suspended Draymond for Game 5 and threw Steph out of the game in Game 6, they let it be decided in 7 games because that Finals being over in 5 would have been disappointing but what that did is leave it to the injury gods who picked the Warriors to take down that year.
It went both ways, yes some calls were bad against Divac and Pollard but Shaq and Kobe also got fouled a lot with no calls. it was just bad officiating period!
@@ecu8r rigged, this "messy " officiatoing is a clear sign - the Best refs are in the conference finals and finals - The best refs-
eyes ??
Can’t wait til the season starts and I can see all of your new videos
The Kings won the finals that year in all other timelines.
Stalker Bleach LA got that Timestone CHEESE
Only if those timelines aren't corrupted too, which is unlikely
It was pretty pathetic because the Lakers were crushing teams that year so what's wrong with a little competition. Suddenly it became a problem because a small market David was a legit threat to a big market Goliath. Real talk Kobe should have 4 rings and Shaq should have 3.
Go back to the year 1985....the LAKERS WIN IN THAT YEAR TOO !!!!
No they choked the crucial game 7 of wcf and lost
But Kings fans will hold on to this game like it is a reason their franchise has been failure for 70 years
I hate the NBA's logic of "we need a high profile team in the finals or ratings will suffer." Honestly, I could care less if the Lakers, Knicks, or Celtics aren't in the finals. In fact, I feel more interested in watching if there is an underdog type team in the finals, or if it's two teams that don't historically make it. People will watch the finals regardless. I doubt the casual fan will feel more inclined to watch the NBA finals just because the Lakers are in it.
You're right. I think the motivation was the league wanted a Game 7 considering how popular that series was. I remember it was talked about as the "real" finals that year. And yes I do think this game was rigged, I don't think an honest person can watch the fourth quarter in real time and conclude otherwise.
They just wanted the revenue of another game.. But I do have to disagree with you.. Even tho the NBA league is a sport.. It's still entertainment.. And major markets draw bigger views.. For example.. The pheonix suns vs the Milwaukee bucks last year was one of the lowest watched finals ever. So yes..I can understand why they want big market teams to flourish.
@Nelekets It has been the NBA's M.O. since 1980 where you have teams like the Boston Celtics, Chicago Detroit Pistons, Golden State Warriors, Houston Rockets, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat, and San Antonio Spurs made the NBA Finals at least three times.
Also since 1980, you have at least one NBA Finals involving these super/megastar players in Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Isiah Thomas, Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Kobe Byrant, LeBron James, and Stephen Curry.
For example in 2002, if the Sacramento Kings were in the NBA Finals, then, the Boston Celtics have to be there.
That being said, a Lakers-Celtics 2002 NBA Finals would've been arguably better.
Fa real 4get LAL!! May day best team win
@@thatsarockwell like it or not the political overtones the league employed that year turned millions of people off. Not saying I agree or disagree but when you firmly side with one side of a divisive political paradigm, especially during that time, its going to turn the other side away. NBA has backed off quite a bit and ratings have gone up again. Denver vs Miami, two “small” markets, did just fine
Yes it was rigged. My man wrote a whole book about it. Lol
you can tell your 'man' that he wasted his damn time lol.
It was rigged?
Ahhh, okay - let's see...so:
You expected to win with Christie and Peja stinking it up like that?
And against a Kobe Bryant that absolutely demolished them *IN Arco* in the playoffs the season prior. Dafuk u smoking lol.
You expected to win when nobody but Bibby had his competitive brain hooked up straight? Even Adleman was making weak excuses.
Here's a brutal truth: If you want a title - it's the same as it's been for all eternity: you have to *TAKE IT* . The refs are not there to give it to you.
Nothing more nothing less, end of.
shaft9000 Tim Donaghy legit got convicted
www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=3436401
@Curly Que lol this is the most rigged game of all-time
@Curly Que
Only lakers fans think its not rigged. Lakers robbed the Kings.
@Curly Que Shaq made a lot of his free throws by committing violations on them.
I normally love all of Ronnie’s videos, but he left out a decent amount of bad calls in this, and I feel like he tried to defend the refs way too much.
I hope u realize there’s a part 2 coming up!!
BBALLBREAKDOWN I know and I am excited, it just seemed like you were going in relatively chronological order, and I think there were a few calls from the first half you missed, unless they were obviously going to be included into the second part.
@@bballbreakdown Fuck you Nick.
@@bballbreakdown i would prolly watch part 2, but not this one with ronnie.
@@chrislist9991 where is part 2
this robbery was legendary lmao
Shit was fixed only way for the kings to win games they had to blow them out if not the refs was gonna make sure lakers won it’s a disgrace and I’m a laker fan smh
i saw the title and shrieked. had to call mike d'antoni, grab some popcorn and sit on my recliner chair for this one. *A Breakdown in the history books.*
🏀🏀🏀
🙏🙏🙏
@@bballbreakdown controversial!
I was in the camp of "Rigged" before I saw this.
But the videos I have seen only show the terrible calls against the Kings, not the Lakers.
But what really surprises me, is that IF the calls were equally terrible, that the Prime Shaq + Kobe Lakers had such a hard time against the Kings.
That means the Kings were amazing!
And unlucky to come up against such a strong Lakers team.
Are there any elements from how the Kings played, that can be transferred to modern BBall?
Looking forwards to Part 2.
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I also understand that the Lakers Vs Trailblazers was rigged, again based on what I have seen from YT.
Would love an equivalent Breakdown of that infamous series as well :)
You mean Rick Adelman, they jobbed Mike so the -*Spurs* could win.
@@bballbreakdown
I don't know where your Part 2 goes, but this looks very condemning to me:
th-cam.com/video/db2_qRHLUV4/w-d-xo.html
4:12 C-Webb says to Shaq; "it just took you and some dirty refs to beat us."
Isaiah Thomas (Detroit Piston) and Barron Davis laughed.
C-Webb been goes on to say something like "I'm not trying to get fired, I love the NBA!"
Shaq just laughs - what can he say?!
If Shaq didn't feel the Lakers got unfair treatment, I would have thought he would say something very different to just laughing it off. 😮
You must be joking Nick. The momentum was totally ruined for Sacramento. Did you even watch the game live? Stop trying to rewrite history just so you can have a hot take.
Thank you.
how else could he have made this video? wtf more do you want from him, to break down every single possession in the game?
@@rdknight89 this video wasn't necessary. The question is why make the video.
-just to get some attention and get love from the big market of LA? It's pretty sick what happened. If Webber didn't go down in the next year's playoffs it would have been an easier pill to swallow, but because that Sacramento team didn't ever win a championship it puts more scrutiny on this game.
Did you watch this game? And are you a Laker fan?
In response to this these are fair questions. If you are not a Laker fan and have not watched the game, I invite you to watch it, and you will see how NBA refs control games, and worse how they tainted the NBA's reputation in one game.
Yeah I'm sure this game did have you feeling some kind of way, "@@kingsfansneak1886" but a) that wasn't the question b) I watched this game live as a teenager, c) I'm a grizzlies fan and d) you can't just call something a hot take just because they disagreed with your preconceived narrative
@@rdknight89 I just don't understand why this was brought up. Unless you are fighting to say the Kings deserve something else besides a loss in the WCFs. No one is talking about this, it's not a hot topic, in fact no one is talking about this, so why go through the trouble of saying... The Kings lost in the WCFs? It's angering, for no reason at all, unless you are a you tuber trying to get some hype, and who are you catering to? The LA market? If so... the man is sick.
Love the timing on that David Stern choke 0:41
As a huge Laker's fan, this was rigged af.
Disagree both teams had bad calls unfortunately for kings fans it didn't go their way.
@@dodgerfreak0834 Are you sure?
th-cam.com/video/db2_qRHLUV4/w-d-xo.html
4:12 C-Webb says to Shaq; it just took you and some dirty refs to beat us.
Isaiah Thomas (Detroit Piston) and Barron Davis laughed.
C-Webb been goes on to say something like "I'm not trying to get fired, I love the NBA!"
Shaq just laughs - what can he say?!
Seems clear to me....
Do you guys have ANY actual evidence that it was rigged? Like literally anything at all? Bad officiating is not evidence that there was also a secret conspiracy. And as the video shows, the Lakers were getting just as many bad calls as the Kings. Seems like pretty incompetent rigging to let the game stay so close and to hand out so many bad calls in favor of the Kings.
@@finewinedaily4997 ideally the game would be close and the calls benefiting both teams so as to create doubt. Honestly part 2 is the important piece because it is the 4th quarter and the calls during the end stretch of the game that defined how people see this game and how the refereeing influenced the outcome. These missed calls in the 2nd quarter are inconsequential to the final minutes of the game because, as you said, they benefit both teams.
JesusIsGOD 🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
Everyone outside of LA knew it was rigged lol. There’s nothing to end . Kings were screewed
la acts like they had this killer team in 2002 but they were playing samaki walker in general starting robert horry vs doug christie which wasn't even close and playing a old brian shaw major minutes and a young devan george unironically meanwhile the kings had a bench of bobby jackson hedo turkoglu and scott pollard lawrence funderburke as well as gerald wallace chucky brown which shat on the lakers bench that year...smdh...sure la had kobe shaq fisher fox but the kings had webber peja bibby divac
I’ve been waiting for a breakdown on this, you definitely came thru coach!
I tried, you can stop cussing at me. I just tried to make some ramen.
SpaceRace144 *ILL STOP YELLING AT YOU WHEN YOU COOK YOUR FOOKING RAMEN CORRECTLY YOU DONKEY, GET THE FOOK OUT OF THIS KITCHEN, GET OUT!!!!!*
@@gordonramsay735 no don't say that chef *PLEASE*
ppl loved the kings nation wide. many east cost kids would have rooted for the kings. they were exciting to watch. no super star names like LA but closest we ever got to a street ball style of play w/ the handle n passing
Chris Webber was a super star
@@johnnyboy3410 not like shaq or Kobe. That's why nba wanted them in. Webber by him self dont bring in views
@@MrJ1S agree, kobe and shaq was the superstars in that series, but overall kings had a better roster and should've won that effing series if not for the refs fking up this game.
Best passing team I ever saw. Great chemistry. And it was really cool having all these guys from different countries alongside Americans on the same team.
This game was a disgrace.
To even argue anything to the contrary is appalling as an NBA fan and to an NBA fan
Everyone knows it was rigged. The Kings were flat out cheated according to the rules. I was never a Sacramento fan. This one game showed me the NBA was a show altogether. Shaq was allowed to break every single rule on the planet that year. The NBA has been fake ever since this game. Even all time NBA legends were laughing constantly weight in on how bad this game was called in the Lakers favor. Three of the refs in this game pled guilty to betting on games. David Stern used them as scapegoats. They tried to put it all on Tim Donaghy.
Just like Game 5 was rigged for the Queens but does anyone mention that????? Nope
Exactly. A ref literally went to jail for admitting the game was fixed in order to get the lakers to win. The lakers did not deserve to be in the finals that year
@@estherlee5527 haa you said queens it's funny as hell 🤣 😂 😆
You guys don’t understand if it was true about the ratings of the finals..my kings woulda fuckin put on a show against New Jersey!!
"stiff arm"??
The dude was just denying the pass without touching shaq, he's entitled to his arm space without fouling shaq
facts
@Blue Skeptic He's not dislodging tho that's my entire point, he's just in mid air
@@davidkelly1507 Which is DEFINITELY when you can't be arm-barring someone; mid-air contact on a post-up is one of the easiest foul calls in the game.
@@natemup but we're talking about the arm denying the pass tho
@@davidkelly1507 Yeah, I misunderstood you. It's a complicated call and a weak one on that play, but I think Ronnie was trying to say that Shaq's reaction to it (curling his arm up under) threw the ref off and lured him into a bad call. That fake arm curl happens all the time in the league even now and refs still haven't fully figured it out.
Even the refs said the game was rigged lol.
That's not true
Dude one ref said that and he was doing illegal shit during these games and before. Big brain response
J.J. Barrientes stay dumb moron you believe crooks
Yes, we all agree that one of these refs was a criminal and a liar, that sounds like the basis for a properly officiated game 😂
Orest Pellumb there’s a whole book about it and video evidence look it up moron
Plot twist: coach is in on it too
And players. This video is damage control
What really happened was clearly explained by Tim Donaghy. He made allegations to the FBI regarding this series. Unless he's addressed in part 2 of this vid, there is no way Coach Nick can say what really happened.
yep, i love coach nick, but ronnie is biased towards the nba and especially his fellow refs. so nope stopped at 3 mins :x. i knew what happened in this game.
@@metalsadman Yea and say game 5 was a clean game with a straight face. So much anti-Lakers hate here to justify that their teams are inferior to the Lakers
@@estherlee5527 because the series was rigged, the hile series was r i g g e d
Most obvious rigging ever.Kings were gonna run the Lakers out of the building that game until the refs kept killing every run opportunity with BS call after BS call.I stopped looking at the Nba as a legitimate sport.It’s really like the WWE.
Shae Micah Lol u clown.I watched the series live.I don’t need youtube to know what happened or to have an opinion on things I experienced.
That debate was ended before it even started: IT WAS A ROBBERY ! :)
dude theres no debate, the nba admitted to arranging that the lakers advance by manipulating the series.
The Pedowitz report dismissed those claims.
lame. call it as it is coach nick. this is part 1. put it in the title. we love you, but don't take advantage of us.
It was as rigged as it gets, they didn’t even bother to hide it. 27 free throws in the 4th. Smh. I’ve never liked the lakers since then. Kobe a monster and i really love his game but he didn’t earn that ring.
I don't know why Rockets Warriors 2018 game 7 isn't viewed the same way as this yet
Cuz 27 missed threes
@Humphrey Jones Whenever anyone just responds that missed 3's number it's an automatic tell of a low IQ.. Rockets were up double digits at halftime and should have had another 15 points that game, and that's conservative.
@@aja3longhorn375 Cause people see it as more of a choke than it being rigged. Missing 27 straight 3s tell you that the Rockets never wanted to adjust and legs were gone from defending the warriors in a 7 game series. The rockets were still up like double digits with the most blatant fouls. And finally even with those fouls that weren't called nobody has sympathy for the refs not blowing the whistle for James Harden of all people
@@bigdog9507 I see what you are saying but I recommend you watch the video of the ref highlights from that game and then come back and see if you still feel that way. Was it a choke? Absolutely. Should it have even been possible for that to happen? Absolutely not. The Rockets should have been up 25 in that game going into the third quarter with how poorly it was officiated.
@@hydros25 It's one thing to say that and then be cheated by 15-20 points and lose by less than 10. It is arguably the worst called game I've ever seen in my life. Watch the highlights of the calls and let me know what you think afterward.
This game is pretty much the sole reason I haven't watched an nba game since.
Then, you missed out on a lot of things including a thriller in Memphis.
The Kings have never won a Championship. They had a real shot of winning that year. Being born in Sacramento and rooting for them for so many crappy seasons before this it really upset me this fixed loss.
Actually, the Kings have a title, just not in Sacramento. 1951 was the franchise's only title as the Rochester Royals.
Your kings choked in game 7. At home. No excuses
@@stevencoardvenice Game 6 was rigged for sure though.
10:40 that is not a good call? He doesn't impede Shaq's landing area and his arms are straight up and he doesn't even leave his feet. The only contact I saw was Shaq initiating contact with his off forearm.
I miss being a kid I watched Nba everyday from 2000-2003 always watched the Lakers as they were usually on but my favorite all time player is Reggie Miller. Even got to see him make the finals in 2000. These days were some amazing the quality, jerseys and nostalgic feel just makes me sad and happy.
😅 no one cares
@@samanthawilde5241 Clearly you do !!
The Kings were better than the Lakers but the league wanted the Lakers to win. This was the most fixed game I have ever seen.
If the Kings were better than the Lakers, they should've sealed the deal by making a few more stops and scores to win either Games 4, 6, or 7 of the 2002 WCF, but they didn't when they lost all three and the 2002 WCF altogether.
Now, the Kings have to suffer even more when other teams beat them to the punch for NBA titles and NBA Finals appearances since 2002 while they have a snakebitten hat trick of having the NBA's longest NBA title, NBA Finals appearance, and NBA playoff appearance droughts.
Vlade may have been a career flopper but neither he nor Webber had reason to flop against Shaq when he was given free pass to bulldoze defenders
So why is it we all can see them clear-as-day flopping on Shaq in this very video?
rdknight89 because he’s elbowing them lol
@@selfishstockton6123 look man it's either a flop or not lmao
rdknight89 it’s not. It’s a foul
Shaq wasn't given a free pass to bulldoze defenders😂 That's just how strong he is. It's part of the game and if you don't like the physicality then go watch chess. His "elbows" aren't illegal because he doesn't hit the defenders with his elbow but with his upper arm.
Kings fans still crying calls were both ways
Coach, wasn’t this a Tim Donaghy Officiated Series? 😵
No
Vitto Navidad Lmao, so who were the refs then Super Genius? 😒
@@AKSourGod Dick Bavetta, Ted Bernhardt, Bob Delaney
Why on earth would we listen to the opinion of someone who was apart of the play calling team
It was rigged. A ref literally went to jail for this. Straight forward
the "fall guy"
10:30 Nunn is absolutely incorrect. Pollard was closing out while Shaq was jumping away from the basket for a sky hook. Pollard did not jump under Shaq at all. Shit call, shit analysis.
No he is the worlds best ref and you are?
Every time I see Ronnie Nunn I know we're headed into fantasy land.
Agreed. Can't deny his tenure as a ref or director of refs but the guy seems to offer little above a chewbacca defence when discussing a case. First time I saw him interviewed was about James Haden's constant uncalled travelling. When presented with a number of wildly obvious travels, his response was to address them as a group and explain that "it's all about the dance..." Sorry, what? What 'dance' are you talking about Ronnie? I can only conclude that what he meant was "James makes it look so smooth and beautiful that we're just going to let it go". In other words, an admission of systematic, sanctioned and blatant travelling. Nice.
@@plefevre My sentiments EXACTLY! Just admit, "It happens so fast, and often looks so similar, we miss a lot." Don't lie and say it's legal. "It's only two steps. Look, I'll count them out 0-1-2." WTF? Please stop!
Everything that Ronnie said in this video, and most everything he's said in every other video, has been very accurate. You just don't like what he has to say so you're finding ways to dismiss it. And that is not at all what Ronnie said when addressing James Harden. Why do you feel the need to lie about this stuff? He very carefully broke down a number of plays James Harden was in and specifically laid out why each play was or was not a travel
@@ShareefusMaximus You are either not understanding or deliberately ignoring what Ronnie was saying in the videos. In the NBA - and college and high school for that matter - you are allowed a "gather step" that does not count towards your two steps. 0 is the gather step, then steps 1 and 2. It takes time to transition the ball away from a dribble and into your hands. Being able to take advantage of the gather step while staying fast and in control is extremely difficult, which is why you don't see anyone in college or high school, or even many people in the NBA, able to take advantage of it well.
@@finewinedaily4997 LMFAO who the f*ck are you? His agent? Fall back and wipe his jiz off your chin. He's dragged you into fantasy land? Be happy there. Some of us don't want to go. I didn't say sh*t about James Harden so don't put f*cking words in my mouth. LMFAO@U4 thinking I was going to follow you into some kind of debate. #Nope They MAKE these video for clowns like YOU and I leave these comments for everybody else. F*ck out.
Asking Nunn to evaluate other refs calls is like asking cops to investigate a cop shooting.....oops!!
Next do “what really happened in the 2016 WCF” 🤣😂😂
Kevin Talley Leborn clean block on iggy and kyrie nails the 3
Paul C it was impossible for lebron to play in the wcf that year
@@paulc3268 Cleveland is not part of WC though.
@@paulc3268 Delete your comment my dude
@@pinheadlarry3992 guy was talking bout wcf which was gsw vs thunders lol.
Maybe it was a badly officiated game, but the kings were screwed way worse and it's not even close.
OG's remember the game 4 video, finally got footage for game 6
*edit* forgot what game it was lol
It’s awesome that you have an actual ref to speak to rather than speculating what the refs were thinking.
Hey coach, bring back the 'History of Basketball' series. I love the breakdown of these historic games.
Been waiting for this and you came through 🙏
You have being waiting to hear lies and half truths?
i don't see coach nick as being biased, but yep ronnie for sure will. i'll watch part 2 prolly.
Coach, since we're going that route, can you also do Suns v Spurs 2007 western conference semi-finals next?
Loyal2law man, I wish the suns pulled it off that year so bad. Steve Nash deserves a title and they definitely could of beaten Cleveland. Or LeBron would of beat them and stayed in Cleveland and never started the super team era.
@@jamesr169 As salty as I still am with the Suns not getting through, what rubs my scars a lot more is the fact that the Suns we're not robbed of the supposed championship, but the opportunity to be there. Now, it's going to be a bunch of what ifs, and I hate that.
@@Loyal2law Western conference semifinals in 2007 you mean.
@@YaKnowWhatIming Crap. I'll edit it. Thanks for looking out.
James Roggero The Celtics started the superteam era once they got KG and Ray Allen to play with Paul Pierce. Lebron was playing them without another superstar while dropping 40+ and still losing games. Also the Spurs had Tim, Manu, Tony all in their primes when they were great. Even if Lebron didn’t go to Miami the league would still have superteams cause the Thunder big 3 probably still would’ve been together and they would’ve ran the league. Superteams have always been around in every era since the Wilt and Bill Russell days.
@6:15: "Unclear how this merits a whistle": Kobe sticks his hand in above the opposing player's left wrist/forearm all the time so they can't lift up to shoot fluidly. That's not actually allowed even though it isn't a swiping motion. So when he went to pass the ball, they called a foul since Kobe's hand altered what the offensive player was doing. Legit call.
@12.44: "There appears to be very little contact": Disagree. He reached in and impeded his dribbling by hitting his right arm. The camera angle you're using doesn't show it, so you will have to extrapolate what is taking place behind the King's player's body. Lakers player reaches in, clearly hits him with his arm, THEN the dribble is lost. That does not happen "before the contact". The foul is why he lost the dribble.
Im from sac. My heart broke
What part of Sac
Every real basketball fans heart broke.
@@jrafaelj808 rio linda
I really enjoyed this conversation once the background music cut out! Pls do this more regularly!
Wow your competence drastically felt in my eyes after this one.
Are you really a coach?
He’s really a coach and you’re really a laker fan
Rafael Lopez you’re wrong at both 👈
10:40 bullshit that is not a legit call
I remember this game like it was yesterday. It showed how bias the league could be. Honestly the NBA wasn't all that fun to watch. Too many teams had superstars on sorry teams. It wasn't until the 2004 Pistons that the East had a respectable team in the Finals. I used to be surprised when San Antonio became a legit dynasty but then the NBA started their Globalization. Unfortunately it seems like the Kings franchise never fully recovered but with their current team they have potential to be great again.
GREAT VIDEO! You’re braver than I thought.
I know there's a part 2 to this, but I'm surprised there was no mention of Shaq's free throws, where every single shot is a FT Lane Violation.
I guess honesty is forbidden so this expert is completely dishonest
Sacramento was a small market team
While the Lakers were a big market team.
David Stern feels that if a Small Market team is in the Finals the NBA would lose money, that's why it was rigged.
A Lakers-Celtics 2002 NBA Final would've been better.
NBA Games shouldn't be determined on ratings, every game has to be officiated fairly and I admit blown calls will happen but if it was 1 or 2 but it shouldn't effect the entire game.
People want to make like the calls were one sided for the Lakers when in reality there were terrible calls against both sides. So no I don't believe there was some sort of corruption from Stern, it was just bad officiating. I'm glad this video shows all the bad calls not just the ones that went on lakers favor.
All the Sacramento Kings had to do is to turn off the distractions like the referees and play basketball to make a few more stops and shots to win either Games 4, 6, or 7 of the 2002 WCF and make the NBA Finals.
What happened? The Kings lost all three and blew their chance to win it all in 2002.
2003 was a better chance for the Kings with a better and deeper squad and a more solid defense until Chris Webber tore his lateral meniscus in his knee against the Dallas Mavericks.
Now, the Kings have to suffer even more when other teams beat them to the punch for NBA titles and NBA Finals appearances since while they have a snakebitten hat trick.
I thought the game was called mostly regularly in the first half and the beginning of the third quarter. Some good calls, some bad calls, but nothing really out of the ordinary.
But then the wheels fell off the wagon, and just sunk into unseen fishy levels.
As a Kings fan, same. Shit happens for the first 3 quarters. Kings got some calls to go their way too. But the last few minutes of the 4th Quarter, and that Kobe Jon Jones style elbow to Mike Bibby's face in front of the ref, and the call went against Bibby? Well, at that point I guess the refs said "Aw fuck it, I think everyone already knows"
I went back into the game logs and video just to make sure I remembered this correctly, but this is actually the second time in the series in which Kobe elbowed a Kings defender in the nose, and the Kings got whistled for a foul. In game one, Doug Christie plays tights defense, gets an accident elbow to the nose from Kobe, and Dick Bavetta inexplicably calls a blocking foul.
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Kobe's elbow must've been sore from those times the Kings defenders contacted it with their faces.
27ft for LALA in 4q. Find any other team in history shooting that many
Here is a couple of facts that most sports fans don't understand, but they are true and you can realize I am correct by just a few minutes of research...
There is no law preventing a referee in any sport here in the United States from making calls which help one team over another. It's true. The executives of the NBA, NFL, MLB or the NHL can instruct the referees to make calls that either help certain players or teams more likely to win. A league instructing it's officials to call games a certain way to help a team, or importantly using calls to make the games more exciting or to push a certain story line is completely legal. It's just considered the same as an employer, the league instructing it's employees, the refs to do their job the way they are instructed.
Secondly, the media companies and networks who cover the leagues and broadcast the games have a financial interest in making sure that game fixing scandals are not known to the public. Does anybody think that ESPN or any other sports network who pays these leagues billions of dollars to broadcast their games is going to report on a game fixing story that will cut into their profits which come directly from broadcasting the games? Is ESPN going to break a game fixing story knowing full well that if the public found out the NBA was rigging games, it would cost them possibly millions of viewers? Of course not!
No sports broadcast network or their parent companies are going to report game fixing, and lose money. The only time they ever talk about it is if they are forced to by a scandal that was uncovered by accident by the FBI like the Tim Donaghy scandal.
The NBA is fixed for sure by the league to increase ratings, excitement and to extend series.
This makes them tens of millions of dollars more than they would if they just let the games be played fairly.
If you were in charge of the NBA, wouldn't you try to extend the series for extra money too especially if it were perfectly legal? Well it is. The key is to control the narrative, and just don't get caught.
Uh, I assume you'll get into the whole Donaghy thing in the second part?
Wasn’t planning on it. He wasn’t reffing
@@bballbreakdown true but he made some pretty damning allegations about the reffing re this game/series. An angle worth taking into account in any case.
Thanks for the reply. Love your videos as always.
Yes, it was rigged. They don't call fouls on the lakers.
Even against the sixers in 2001.
Fisher hitting iverson's face, shooting arm and no fouls called.
Shaq hits mutumbo's face with his elbow when he takes a shot, and no offensive foul.
Lakers are fake champions to me.
I cannot unsee those no calls by the refs
The NBA used to let Shaq elbow every center in the NBA. If you watch the 2001 Finals against the Sixers, it's incredible how many elbows Mutombo took.
In this series I remember a foul of Christie’s face against Kobe’s elbow
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That was a good series. Skilled players, Rough play and bad refs. No conspiracy needed for that.
Great vid man love it!
Do game 7 Lakers vs Celtics 2010
Honestly this was the worst called series I have ever seen the kings played excellent against the lakers but every time it seemed when they made runs the refs made sure they never blew out the lakers!!
Here in Europe we consider those Kings NBA champions.
They were obviously the best team back then by far and they made the NBA watchable again
Giusva same in Latin America
Appreciate you bro!
yeah that why your best players are coming to the NBA
I’ve been waiting for for a long time
Removing Divac from the game was the key and refs did their job here.
always been a lakers fan ever since 1999 when i was 10 years old but daaammn..this was rigged af
just shut the fuck up if you were a fucking Lakers fan since 99 you wouldn't say it and i'm fucking Rockets fan and i dont blame the refs for the loss in game 7 against GS
@@johnnyboy3410 laker for life bro..been bleedin purple and gold but this shit was for the sake of the whole NBA
Dude...the ref admitted it was rigged. We seen it with our eyes. There is no question this game was TRASH . Never seen anything like it
Fully rigged
coach this is your best vid, more interesting, not just analyzing
Wau..weird..I have JUST watched game 5 from that series before you upload this..I was/am a HUGE kings fan, and yes I've wondered ever since that day. Til this day it hurts so bad rewatching the series knowing it easily could have ended with a Kings victory and most likely a championship. Thank you so much for making this breakdown coach!
I forgot just how early 2000s Scott Pollard really was.
Nobody:
Coach Nick: Imma bout to end this whole debate.
the national tv doesnt want Nets Vs Kings. They wants Lakers Big Market Team. How sad!
it’s the same case this year, national Tv don’t want heat vs nuggets, so now they rigging the ecf for the celtics
Lakers-Celtics 2002 NBA Finals would've been better.
I was rooting for the kings that year I was so mad
Man, if coach's hype music ever gets copyright claimed by someone. That person is essentially stealing his livelihood. Its the same thing as cutting off the fingers of a nba player.
Do the 2006 Finals next PLEASE!
Heat 2005 lost against the Pistons..all the money they had put on Shaq how the league kissed Pat Rileys ass..no chance in hell they could afford to let them lose.
You mean when wade when super saiyan in the 2006 playoffs were he averages 35 points a game
Lol mavs lost because they weren’t better than wade Jesus
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The Kings were absolutely robbed in this game, full stop. Ronnie Nunn is defending his guys but idk how you watch those clips of these absurd fouls against the Kings and defend the refs, there has to be accountability which starts with admitting the refs blew this game at best, at worst it was rigged. Lakers had 27 free throws in the 4th Q!!! That's a lot for an entire game and they got that many in one quarter. Unacceptable for the NBA which is only looking out for their $$$ rather than the integrity of the game and letting the players, coaches, and teams decide the outcome game regardless of star players or franchise market size. Also I'm not a Kings fan so unbiased opinion here.
I'm a bit of a Lakers fan and was a big kobe fan, but that series was obviously rigged
I do appreciate the few Lakers fans that own that game 6 was suspect.
It happens. Just like Stern rigged the Ewing draft and the Cp3 trade.
I stopped watching the NBA after this game. 21 years later and I still don't watch the NBA.
Once it's obvious that you're rigging games, there's no coming back from that.
Then, you missed out on a lot of things.
Ronnie Nunn...the guy who claims Harden's stepback is not a travel by not counting 1,2, 3..but instead counting 0,1,2. I have to question his credibility because of that..
I don’t know what he is looking at. I wasn’t shocked when he said he was at that game
0 - gather step
Donohue admitted this game was rigged in the end. Its in his book...
Yes but he did not ref the game serie no game
I hope you put all Shaq free throws stepping on the line.
IT WAS RIGGED!! Maybe it wasn’t a ratings conspiracy but somebody in a position of power had money on the lakers. Nobody will ever change my mind! Not even you, coach
god you're an idiot it was about TV ratings if the Kings went to the finals no one would see it because well its Sac against NJ you get my point
As others have said, the problem with this is that the timing and frequency of fouls favored the Lakers were really what people had a problem with. The Lakers getting 15 more free throws and 7 more fouls to key players is indicative of an overall difference in the officiating. Beyond individual calls refs try to call balanced games and the overall frequency of foul calls is definitely on their minds mid game. While many of the fouls in the early game could be legitimate, it’s the run itself preceded not just by foul call precedents like illegal screens but also knowledge of foul trouble and foul call frequency that’s the problem. The refs made adjustments to call things they hadn’t before but who that change favored overall is important particularly for that 4th quarter.
Dude, part 2?!?? It's been 20 years or so
How come there’s no breakdown given of a shooting Kobe being fouled by a Bibby standing 5ft away from him, lol?! Rigged.
Even the breakdown is rigged in favor of the Lakers!! Lol /s
Shae Micah it wasn’t the play where it’s obvious he was nowhere near Kobe.
Eh, you’re right. Series was over a decade ago. Memory ain’t so good other than bad reffing all around.
Shae Micah I see you’re also stupid
@Shae Micah /s means sarcasm btw
I read that Tim Donaghy said Sacaremento King fans were wearing Dick Bavetta Jerseys with the Lakers logo lol