your problem! .. my saying last year has been 'problems do intelligence' .. there are keys to nietzsche's sentences one is his philological knowledge .. so, learn greek then learn german then try again
No, its fine. He said philosophy, not history of philosophy. Philosophy does not require any education. A tribesman without the cability to read or write can be a philosopher; however, getting educated about the history of philosophy makes it much easier to progress for most.
@@GnosticAtheist Yeah, no. It is like saying "I like physics, but never heard of Einstein". The name Nietsche is common knowledge, it doesn't require a degree in philosophy.
Really? So if you love a subject or the idea of the subject you have to come to that conclusion only after you have already learned all there is to know? Can you say "I am a lover of music" and yet not have heard, yet, of one particular influential musician? Surely the love of the music you do know will lead you to discover more music including by creators you haven't yet encountered.
Nietzsche famously said "Without music life would be a mistake". Nietzsche is such a polarising person. I think he was a very smart man & his word & works are famous all around the world. As a leading philosopher of the time, he was loved & hated by many.
You wrote: "As a leading philosopher of the time, he was loved and hated by many". If I may correct you: almost nobody knew him, so they couldn't either love nor hate him. He didn't sell a handful of books during his lifetime. He wrote and wrote book by book not motivated by success but by knowing he's Nietzsche. He thought of himself as the most important thinker of human history while being sick and alone and completely broke. Loved he was later on, and it will never end. He's the biggest motivator of the individual and fighter for individualism of all time.
This is an interesting direction, Joel. Excellent video - I'd love some more of this. Unfortunately I never managed to get past ancient Greece. I still find the teachings of Stoicism fascinating and personally helpful, and Socrates "Socratic method" is an excellent tool when trying to ascertain the veracity of unsupported statements.
Nietzsche is a good antidote, a hammer to break chains, but not a real guide. One must be inspired by him, and then overcome him just the same to be free and yourself. We honor his ideas best, if we overcome him and take our own take.
@@gordondry schlechter Trollversuch. Extra lustig wenn man deine Bio liest. Du beschreibst zu 100% Qualitäten, die ideologisch links sind, aber definierst dich "alternativ" dazu als Anarchist (obwoh Anarchismus sowie all die Punkte, die du daran magst, kategorisch links sind). Ist das ein Copypasta von dem ich nichts weiß?
Nietzsche was right. Look at the rapid decline of religious belief in the first world. Nietzsche thought it would happen sooner. But he was right about it's eventual demise.
"Friedrich Nietzsche is one of the philosophers with the most potential in the whole world, not only in the West, not only in Germany. His insights are significant for everybody. But he was misunderstood by all his contemporaries. That's the usual fate of every genius. It is almost routine, not an exception but a rule, that the genius is bound to be misunderstood by his contemporaries, for the simple reason that he is far ahead of his time. So there is always a revival after the death of a genius. It may take one hundred years, two hundred years, but a genius always has a revival. It is unfortunate that by the time people start understanding him, he is no more. And he suffers the misunderstandings all around him his whole life. He lives almost alone, with no communication with his contemporaries; and by the time he is being understood, he is no more. He never comes to know the people who will understand him. So it was absolutely certain that Friedrich Nietzsche would have a great revival, and his words and his insights would be echoed all over the world - not only in the world of philosophy, but in the world of religion, morality, aesthetics. Whatever he touched, he always brought something absolutely new to it. And that's the trouble - because for thousands of years people have understood a thing in a certain way. When a person like Nietzsche turns all the tables - which centuries have founded - and alone, single-handedly, fights against the whole past, it is a very difficult situation - and more so for a Western philosopher who has no understanding of meditation. He naturally gets very frustrated. It is bound to bring him insanity - the misunderstanding of the people. Everybody misunderstands him. In the world full of millions of people, there is not a single person with whom he can have a heart-to-heart contact, communion. He is in a desert - it drives him mad. That's what happened with Nietzsche. He lived a life of immense frustration, because he was giving great insights to the world; and in return - only condemnation. He was bringing new light - and not a single friendly response.... Even his friends were not friendly about his philosophical approaches. That finally drove Nietzsche to madness; he died a madman. His death in madness is a condemnation of the whole Western approach. In the East people have been misunderstood, but because there was an underlying meditative silence and peace and contentment, and a deep understanding that this is just how things are - they are bound to be misunderstood - there was a natural acceptance of it. They were not frustrated, they were not angry; they were not going insane or committing suicide. But in the West it has been almost always the situation with every great philosopher - the misunderstanding from all corners, from all dimensions, and the deep expectation of the person of being understood. He is not a meditator; he cannot accept the situation of misunderstanding, that it is natural, that he cannot do anything about it, that he will be understood when the time is ripe. He will not be here.... But it does not matter whether he is understood or not: he is perfectly contented that whatever is true to him he is giving to the world. Now it is up to the world when to understand, or not to understand it. He is not dependent in any way on the response of people. But Western philosophy, Western religion both have missed the quality of meditation. And that creates a new thing. When a man like Nietzsche goes mad, the enemies, who are all around - the people who misunderstood him and drove him mad - take advantage of the situation of his being mad. They start saying that it is his philosophy which is basically wrong, that has driven him mad. His madness becomes a proof that he is a wrong man - that he is not only mad today, he has always been mad. Whatever he has said is insane. So it becomes a more solid ground on which to refute the person completely, to erase him completely - and that's what happened with Nietzsche. But a revival was certain. You cannot continue to misunderstand something which has even a little bit of truth in it - and Nietzsche has tremendous insights. If they can all be understood, it will help the Western mind to change many things. For example, Nietzsche was the only one - even in his madness he would not sign his name without writing over his signature "Antichrist." Even in his madness that much was absolutely certain to him: that he was anti-Christ, that Christ has created a tradition which is immensely dangerous to humanity, that he has polluted the human mind, even about small things. Where Christ had always been praised, people were surprised that Nietzsche would find a very solid criticism. For example, when Christ says, "If somebody slaps you on one cheek, give him the other too," Nietzsche was the first man to say that this is an insult to the man who has slapped you. Now, it needs a certain intelligence to understand what he is saying. He is saying, in giving him the other cheek you are reducing him to subhumanity; you are becoming a god. Behave like a human being: give him a good slap the way he has given you one. And the argument that looked very strange to the Christians who were his contemporaries, was very simple: "In this way you are proving equality. 'I am also a human being. If you hit me, then I will hit you. I am not a god, I cannot forgive you.' All those who have been trying to forgive are very subtle egoists. They are enjoying reducing the other person almost to an animal. That is worse than hitting the man back hard! Just behave like man to man." And you can watch it: the person who gives his other cheek - you can see in his eyes and in his face and in his words great pride and great ego. Even when Jesus himself on the cross asks, "Father, forgive these people, because they do not understand what they are doing," he is still trying to prove on the cross the same thing for which he is being crucified - that everybody is ignorant and only he knows."
Becoming who you really are requires courage,,,,the type of courage that exposes one to others critiquing,,,,not always welcome but the best way to armour yourself against others opinions is to devalue their ability to have any impact.
Consider this: The superman is able to take revenge, but chooses, in most cases, another path. The early Christian was not able to take revenge, and called it forgiveness. - Taking revenge is not "good", its just the reason for forgiveness, the reason you choose not to act out desire, in the Christian, is fear. Fear of hell, fear of the state. A superman on the other hand, is supposed to control their emotions and understand their cognition, and act accordingly. Now, I am not saying this is what would happen or if "superman" can be a real thing, that is another topic. What is clear however, is that acting on impulses or emotion, such as vengeance, is "below human"; its beastial. Forgiveness is only valuable when you understand the psychology of the agressor and what is actually going on, not when you do it out of fear.
No, we don't need more philosophers, we need more honest self-reflection and discussion with our community. We take from philosophers that which rings true to our own experience so the realisation is already within us just not reaching the level of consciousness. Just as fish do not think about the water in which they swim, neither do we think much about our own zeitgeist. Philosophers help us to reverse that difficulty by raising our levels of awareness. The outcomes of formal philosophy are very easily twisted, however. Nietzsche was Hitler's favourite philosopher, for example. The idea of "ubermensche" greatly appealed to him and he wanted the Aryan race and Germans in particular to become the supermen of the modern age. White Christian nationalism in your own country has similar roots. Another good vlog JPS, always thought provoking
From on high? Trjbergius is right: it's a little overconfident to say: what people far more educated and intelligent than myself thought und created has no advantage to my 'what's already within us just not reaching the level of consciousness'. Also, Nietzsche is not responsible for the misunderstanding und misuse of the word Übermensch by H1tl3r.
Its really really common saying in germany to the point that my really religious mother used the phrase growing up so often it might have been considered her catchphrase all while hating Nietzsche and refusing to read one of his books in uni because his takes on christianity offended her to no end.
Schoppenhauer, Hegel, Heidegger, Marx, Adorno, Arendt, ... There are dozens of German philosophers, more than from any other country. Hence Germany, the land of poets and thinkers!
Not just read, but think. Too many people escape boredom by scrolling TikTok. Rather than escape boredom, we should embrace it and use that solitude to ponder mysteries and explore our own philosophical perspectives.
Oh Joel, handle Nietzsche with care dude. He is the most abrasive and confronting thinker I know of, and the only one whose books I have sometimes thrown across the room in anger and disgust. But he is also a true genius and original, and one of the best (and even loveliest) writers there is. You get everything with Nietzsche.
Hegal and Spinoza would be great for this channel. Locke, Hume, Bacon for more insight into the origins of modern science. I still need somebody to explain more to me about what Kant meant in simple short terms.
Nietzche is a fun philosopher to learn. He is certainly a student favourite. But not because there is vast merit in his ideas, but because his ideas are more accessibly entertaining than for example Kant or Locke. I did philosophy at university (although not any more an expert), and that's what I took away.... Nice ideas, nicely put, but not necessary useful or right, if there is such a thing.
In my opinion, taking revenge doesn't do any good, but forgiveness is equally bad. Finding common ground by talking and negotiating is a possibility we humans have, and we should use it more often. Except for the alcohol thing, Nietzsche wasn't far from Karl Marx who wrote that "religion is the opium of the people", and I can agree with that. What was said about the "God is dead" quote is absolutely true, and Nietzsche's idea of replacing belief by human arts at least has influenced our culture a bit. However, I'm not sure if the ancient Greek drama changed their society for the better. There's much interpreted into it which probably didn't exist because, after all, people are people, and they went there for entertainment. Having said that all, I once tried to read Nietzsche, but his use of the German language and of philosophical terms were beyond my understanding. I had a more or less scientific education, so I'm more used to texts that are straightforward. Maybe when I'll retire I'll try Nietzsche again, but I'm not sure yet.
@@augustiner3821 Oh no i dont, he is good! Actually it was meant in a friendly like buddies mocking each other. Enough not so bright people everywhere including myself 😅
The church used the same instrument to keep people down There is a citation about a talk between a factory director and a priest: The director say to the priest: ”When you keep them obedient, then I keep them poor”
Btw.: His name is pronounced "neets shuh" (for English speakers), definitely not "nee cha". "Nietz" most probably refers to a place in or around Germany, while the ending "-sche" is the female form of "of the", "belongs to" or "from close by".
For philosophy it's good when you can/learn German, because the translation is never so good /precise as the Original, because there is the general thoughts/mainset of the Germans inbedetinit, especially in philosophy.( I hope, I could make myself clear)
This kind of video wont appeal to many, but I sincerly appreciate your interest. Nietzsche is one of the 40 most famous philosophers. We started counting since 500 B JC . So it's really impressive. Germany, France and the UK (Locke, Hume, Hobbes) have given birth to so many great minds. Zarathustra is overated. If you are really interessted and have some time ; Read The Gay Science. It's a masterpiece.
The aversion to Christianity may also have something to do with the fact that Nietzsche's father was a Lutheran pastor. A number of his ancestors were as well, and even his mother came from a pastor's family.
The problem with 18th and 19th century German philosophers was, that they could not write in a way that made their books remotely understandable. I had to try to read some snippets, and was immediately depressed.
I think I have understood Nietzsche pretty well from all my reading of him. But Kant is beyond, I don't 'get' Kant. Or let me ask this, do you think Kant would have liked Star Trek?
What did I think about the video? It was really pretty bad. He didn't really have a grasp of what Our Pal Nietzsche put forward. First, the video got the whole idea of the Übermensch completely wrong, top to bottom. Nietzsche's philosophy is not about how you can be come on. Second, Nietzsche's critique of Christianity is not that it sublimates revenge, and Nietzsche did not glorify revenge. Third, the ideas most central to Nietzsche's thought were entirely absent from the video. Where is the doctrine of the eternal return? Where is the will to power? Where is the role of perspectives in establishing meaning? They aren't in this video, yet they are central to Nietzsche's philosophy.
ok, this is only my interpretation. Because it is "Not-Being-Able-To-Take-Revenge" he does not rule out taking revenge. What he is talking about is that you are to weak (no political power/ no money/ not strong enough physically or mentally/ ...) to do so. So you hide behind forgivness since you cannot take revenge, lying to yourself.
Under the conditions of a nature made by humans, and this does not mean nature itself, but the world as humans have created their own nature, everything can include alcohol, other drugs, sex, hobbies, work, even vacuuming, collecting Pokemon cards.. .everything under the conditions of a man-made nature can make modern people addictive. This is an insight that comes from Marx.
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It's Niets-sche pronounced. Nitzsche criticised Christianity because it's nihilistic. The life is only seen as means to go to heavens and be god, which is denial of life, wishing that existence should end. But he said: Life and human is his self-mean, thus every philosopher who seeks the matter of life is a nihilist. Nihilism also stands for gnostic faithes around the globe.
That thumbnail might get you on a watch list. Calling Nietzsche 'amazing' with your unfortunately timed haircut, could set off alarms. With no reason, of course.
Interesting thoughts, but didn't he ended up telling people how to live a satisfying life? Same as religion? Taking his own life as an example? What we can learn from Nietzsche is to ask ourselfs about the bubbles and routines we live in. Another Friedrich, prussian king Friedrich II said ..Everyone should be happy in their own way .. This is what people still try to do nowadays in the former prussian center - Berlin.
i think Philosophy does a great favor to humanity and civilization. But i cant see any of this in Nietzsche (im german btw). He just comes of as very narcissistic, sad and as a man who thinks mankind has any value above nature.
Hey, nice reaction! School of life videos kind of got me into some "new" (for me) philosophers as well. However his videos are quite inaccurate if you know these thinkers better. One really good channel on Nietzsche is calles "essentialsalts", if you want to dive deeper. No visuals and editing, but top class insights. He has a 47 minute answer to this video, taking it apart a bit. th-cam.com/video/X2tZcfjXbtY/w-d-xo.html Give it a try. Nietzsche is often misrepresented, either because people cant be bothered to actually read him or because they want to strawman him. Take school of life videos as a window into philosophy, but if you find anything interesting, do yourself a favor and look up some other sources.
Thanks. I clicked the "original video" link in the description, but it took me someplace I know not where. I've read all of Nietzsche's books, and I recognized pretty-damn-quick that the video was truly dreadful. I'm very interested in the video you linked. Mopping up all that mess would easily take 47 minutes, but I might find the essentialsalts critique to be a worthwhile refresher. It might remind me of something important I'd forgotten, or it might provide a fresh way of organizing Nietzsche's thought. You have to admit that some of Our Pal Nietzsche's books are a little higgledy-piggledy. I'm going there to watch your recommended video straightway.
I just got back from watching the essentialsalts video. Thank you for recommending it. I had not known the sources for the Lou Salome relationship story or for the horse story. They are both a lot shakier than I had thought. I really appreciated his explanation of the Übermensch. I was struggling with how to explain it in a reply to another comment, and I just couldn't come up with the word "ideal" (as opposed to "real" or "actual"). But that is really what the Übermensch is--an ideal, a goal. I also had never heard culture explained in the way essentialsalts expressed it--the preconditions for a way of life. I certainly couldn't have expressed it in the way he did, and I believe his explanation made sense. I have generally talked in terms of the institutions that stabilize society such that art (paintings, sculptures, operas, etc.) could be produced and promoted. Those institutions themselves call into being a sort of monumental architecture that embodies cultural ideals as well. But I had not conceptualized it so abstractly as he did. The preconditions that make a way of life possible has a sort of Foucaultian ring to it, doesn't it? Having read almost all of Foucault's books, it snaps into place easily. Anyway, I thought you'd appreciate hearing back from me and knowing that your comment was very helpful. Thank you. "name was already taken." LOL. Very nice. :)
Nietzsche is just a dude. a smart one but still. entertaining those thoughts of his is valuable, but that he's said it does not necessarily mean it's true.
Look up Absurdism... a branch of existentialism...its the logical philosophical conclusion.. ironically because our ego wants to have meaning.. the meaning of our life is ours and ours alone. Collective or universal meaning is absurd.
The problem with reading Nietzsche is that every single paragraph gives you so much to think that you don't go on with the book.
lol I did that with a lot of philosophy books, read a bit then look or get up and start pacing.
Thats not the problem. That is the whole point in reading that kind of literature.
your problem! .. my saying last year has been 'problems do intelligence' .. there are keys to nietzsche's sentences one is his philological knowledge .. so, learn greek then learn german then try again
"I am a lover of philosophy."
"I have never heard of Nietsche."
Please pick one.
No, its fine. He said philosophy, not history of philosophy.
Philosophy does not require any education. A tribesman without the cability to read or write can be a philosopher; however, getting educated about the history of philosophy makes it much easier to progress for most.
@@GnosticAtheist Yeah, no. It is like saying "I like physics, but never heard of Einstein". The name Nietsche is common knowledge, it doesn't require a degree in philosophy.
Really? So if you love a subject or the idea of the subject you have to come to that conclusion only after you have already learned all there is to know?
Can you say "I am a lover of music" and yet not have heard, yet, of one particular influential musician? Surely the love of the music you do know will lead you to discover more music including by creators you haven't yet encountered.
@@finncullen Yes, if you say you're a Metal head and never heard the name "Metallica" I am calling bullshit on you.
@@lukasb728 Are you an autist? I need to know, because if you are, I won't make fun of you for beeing stupid.
Nietzsche famously said "Without music life would be a mistake". Nietzsche is such a polarising person. I think he was a very smart man & his word & works are famous all around the world. As a leading philosopher of the time, he was loved & hated by many.
You wrote: "As a leading philosopher of the time, he was loved and hated by many".
If I may correct you: almost nobody knew him, so they couldn't either love nor hate him. He didn't sell a handful of books during his lifetime. He wrote and wrote book by book not motivated by success but by knowing he's Nietzsche. He thought of himself as the most important thinker of human history while being sick and alone and completely broke.
Loved he was later on, and it will never end. He's the biggest motivator of the individual and fighter for individualism of all time.
@@jtabendland Thanks for the correction. I appreciate the reply.
@@shaneb4612 What he wrote is timeless, benefit from it ((by really reading it)) 🤝😘
“Big shout out to Nietzsche” that’s crazy 😂
Yes! More philosophy! Do one about Kierkegaard, Kant and Jung!
kant, pls its still his year -.-
"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is a line in the lyrics of the song Another Day by Buckshot Lefongue, for one
"Those who follow the herd only see assholes!"
"Hinter der Trommel
trotten die Kälber.
Das Fell für die Trommel
liefern sie selber."
(Bertolt Brecht)
@@eisikater1584 ach, was sind wir deutschen doch alle so gescheit
@@schiacciatrollo Hat man in den letzten Jahren gesehen, wie gut die Deutschen blind der Herde folgen
@@schiacciatrollo aber Hallo 😅
This is an interesting direction, Joel. Excellent video - I'd love some more of this.
Unfortunately I never managed to get past ancient Greece. I still find the teachings of Stoicism fascinating and personally helpful, and Socrates "Socratic method" is an excellent tool when trying to ascertain the veracity of unsupported statements.
Nietzsche is a good antidote, a hammer to break chains, but not a real guide. One must be inspired by him, and then overcome him just the same to be free and yourself. We honor his ideas best, if we overcome him and take our own take.
Same goes with wokeness.
See, that's the mistake: you have to reach (or read) him before you can overcome him.
@@gordondry same with any ideology/philosophy really.
@@gordondry schlechter Trollversuch. Extra lustig wenn man deine Bio liest. Du beschreibst zu 100% Qualitäten, die ideologisch links sind, aber definierst dich "alternativ" dazu als Anarchist (obwoh Anarchismus sowie all die Punkte, die du daran magst, kategorisch links sind). Ist das ein Copypasta von dem ich nichts weiß?
There is a difference between "not beeing able to take revenge" and "forgivness". The first makes me angry the other is giving peace to my heart.
Keep this up!’ Keep asking lots of questions, and wonder!!
Great stuff!
"What doesn't kill you makes you stranger" is better I think.
"God is dead." (Nietzsche, 1883)
"Nietzsche is dead." (God, 1900)
😂
"And I killed him." (Also God... perhaps...)
@@Julie-qc8cd I don't get how that's funny, the two are utterly unrelated concepts.
Nietzsche was right. Look at the rapid decline of religious belief in the first world. Nietzsche thought it would happen sooner. But he was right about it's eventual demise.
@@chansetwo I understand what Nietzsche meant, reason and science killed god, I just don't understand the humor of the above post.
Great video and interesting topic!
“I don’t know Nietzsche, that’s a tough one, buddy.” 😂
"Friedrich Nietzsche is one of the philosophers with the most potential in the whole world, not only in the West, not only in Germany. His insights are significant for everybody. But he was misunderstood by all his contemporaries.
That's the usual fate of every genius.
It is almost routine, not an exception but a rule, that the genius is bound to be misunderstood by his contemporaries, for the simple reason that he is far ahead of his time. So there is always a revival after the death of a genius. It may take one hundred years, two hundred years, but a genius always has a revival.
It is unfortunate that by the time people start understanding him, he is no more. And he suffers the misunderstandings all around him his whole life. He lives almost alone, with no communication with his contemporaries; and by the time he is being understood, he is no more. He never comes to know the people who will understand him.
So it was absolutely certain that Friedrich Nietzsche would have a great revival, and his words and his insights would be echoed all over the world - not only in the world of philosophy, but in the world of religion, morality, aesthetics. Whatever he touched, he always brought something absolutely new to it.
And that's the trouble - because for thousands of years people have understood a thing in a certain way. When a person like Nietzsche turns all the tables - which centuries have founded - and alone, single-handedly, fights against the whole past, it is a very difficult situation - and more so for a Western philosopher who has no understanding of meditation.
He naturally gets very frustrated. It is bound to bring him insanity - the misunderstanding of the people. Everybody misunderstands him. In the world full of millions of people, there is not a single person with whom he can have a heart-to-heart contact, communion. He is in a desert - it drives him mad. That's what happened with Nietzsche.
He lived a life of immense frustration, because he was giving great insights to the world; and in return - only condemnation. He was bringing new light - and not a single friendly response.... Even his friends were not friendly about his philosophical approaches. That finally drove Nietzsche to madness; he died a madman.
His death in madness is a condemnation of the whole Western approach. In the East people have been misunderstood, but because there was an underlying meditative silence and peace and contentment, and a deep understanding that this is just how things are - they are bound to be misunderstood - there was a natural acceptance of it. They were not frustrated, they were not angry; they were not going insane or committing suicide.
But in the West it has been almost always the situation with every great philosopher - the misunderstanding from all corners, from all dimensions, and the deep expectation of the person of being understood. He is not a meditator; he cannot accept the situation of misunderstanding, that it is natural, that he cannot do anything about it, that he will be understood when the time is ripe.
He will not be here.... But it does not matter whether he is understood or not: he is perfectly contented that whatever is true to him he is giving to the world. Now it is up to the world when to understand, or not to understand it. He is not dependent in any way on the response of people.
But Western philosophy, Western religion both have missed the quality of meditation. And that creates a new thing. When a man like Nietzsche goes mad, the enemies, who are all around - the people who misunderstood him and drove him mad - take advantage of the situation of his being mad. They start saying that it is his philosophy which is basically wrong, that has driven him mad.
His madness becomes a proof that he is a wrong man - that he is not only mad today, he has always been mad. Whatever he has said is insane. So it becomes a more solid ground on which to refute the person completely, to erase him completely - and that's what happened with Nietzsche.
But a revival was certain. You cannot continue to misunderstand something which has even a little bit of truth in it - and Nietzsche has tremendous insights. If they can all be understood, it will help the Western mind to change many things.
For example, Nietzsche was the only one - even in his madness he would not sign his name without writing over his signature "Antichrist." Even in his madness that much was absolutely certain to him: that he was anti-Christ, that Christ has created a tradition which is immensely dangerous to humanity, that he has polluted the human mind, even about small things.
Where Christ had always been praised, people were surprised that Nietzsche would find a very solid criticism. For example, when Christ says, "If somebody slaps you on one cheek, give him the other too," Nietzsche was the first man to say that this is an insult to the man who has slapped you.
Now, it needs a certain intelligence to understand what he is saying. He is saying, in giving him the other cheek you are reducing him to subhumanity; you are becoming a god. Behave like a human being: give him a good slap the way he has given you one.
And the argument that looked very strange to the Christians who were his contemporaries, was very simple: "In this way you are proving equality. 'I am also a human being. If you hit me, then I will hit you. I am not a god, I cannot forgive you.' All those who have been trying to forgive are very subtle egoists. They are enjoying reducing the other person almost to an animal. That is worse than hitting the man back hard! Just behave like man to man."
And you can watch it: the person who gives his other cheek - you can see in his eyes and in his face and in his words great pride and great ego. Even when Jesus himself on the cross asks, "Father, forgive these people, because they do not understand what they are doing," he is still trying to prove on the cross the same thing for which he is being crucified - that everybody is ignorant and only he knows."
The painting is 'Der Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer' von Casper David Friedrich, it's the highlight of the romantic era.
i love the different topics you dare to tackle ! Great video, great work Jps 🙂 (the haircut is ...well.... just ok 🙂 )
WOW! I'm impressed, look at you, covering philosophy, starting with the master himself!!
love it!
And now Arthur Schopenhauer and Kant 🙂
Becoming who you really are requires courage,,,,the type of courage that exposes one to others critiquing,,,,not always welcome but the best way to armour yourself against others opinions is to devalue their ability to have any impact.
More on topic than my other comment: Would be neat if this became a philosophy series, but also fine if this is just a one-off thing.
Consider this: The superman is able to take revenge, but chooses, in most cases, another path. The early Christian was not able to take revenge, and called it forgiveness. - Taking revenge is not "good", its just the reason for forgiveness, the reason you choose not to act out desire, in the Christian, is fear. Fear of hell, fear of the state. A superman on the other hand, is supposed to control their emotions and understand their cognition, and act accordingly.
Now, I am not saying this is what would happen or if "superman" can be a real thing, that is another topic. What is clear however, is that acting on impulses or emotion, such as vengeance, is "below human"; its beastial. Forgiveness is only valuable when you understand the psychology of the agressor and what is actually going on, not when you do it out of fear.
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No, we don't need more philosophers, we need more honest self-reflection and discussion with our community. We take from philosophers that which rings true to our own experience so the realisation is already within us just not reaching the level of consciousness. Just as fish do not think about the water in which they swim, neither do we think much about our own zeitgeist. Philosophers help us to reverse that difficulty by raising our levels of awareness. The outcomes of formal philosophy are very easily twisted, however. Nietzsche was Hitler's favourite philosopher, for example. The idea of "ubermensche" greatly appealed to him and he wanted the Aryan race and Germans in particular to become the supermen of the modern age. White Christian nationalism in your own country has similar roots. Another good vlog JPS, always thought provoking
Many wrongs. And you should learn more about what you comment.
@@trjberg Happy for constructive criticism and comment: lofty content free judgements from on high, not so much
From on high? Trjbergius is right: it's a little overconfident to say: what people far more educated and intelligent than myself thought und created has no advantage to my 'what's already within us just not reaching the level of consciousness'.
Also, Nietzsche is not responsible for the misunderstanding und misuse of the word Übermensch by H1tl3r.
Revenge is the most powerful motivator. Use it carefully and internally.
And so spoke Zarathustra. By him is an easy tead in quote form is great quick introduction..
I knew you probably heard the line "what doesn't kill me makes me stronger", which is by Nietzsche. 😅
Its really really common saying in germany to the point that my really religious mother used the phrase growing up so often it might have been considered her catchphrase all while hating Nietzsche and refusing to read one of his books in uni because his takes on christianity offended her to no end.
‘There’s nothing Nietzsche couldn’t teach ya, about the raising of the wrist…’
He lived and died in my hometown Weimar. We have the Nietzsche-Archiv here ;)
Schoppenhauer, Hegel, Heidegger, Marx, Adorno, Arendt, ...
There are dozens of German philosophers, more than from any other country.
Hence Germany, the land of poets and thinkers!
Marx, Adorno, Arendt were not Germans
@@liveforever141 yes they were
@@Katt-v._.v All of them were jewish.
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Citizenship: German
Religion: Jew
Please, more philosophers!
new hair cuts looking tight...its YOU bro. Nietzsche has been my fav. philosopher since I was in Junior high.
If you like crazy philosophers, highly intelligent with incredible life paths, Ludwig Wittgenstein is a must.
We don't need more philosophers we just need people to read more.
What we don't need is 10 min TH-cam videos when reading one of his books takes a year. :-)
Yes he's an Amazing thinker
Not just read, but think. Too many people escape boredom by scrolling TikTok. Rather than escape boredom, we should embrace it and use that solitude to ponder mysteries and explore our own philosophical perspectives.
@@BBKing1977 This is not boring for me.
YES ,,,,, The hair looks good,,,, your lucky to have a perfect head shape. Philosophy could be an extra university degree.
He looks horrible! Either lost a bet or new girlfriend/boyfriend?
I love his opinions about Christians. 🏴🖤🏴
Yes jps loved this
Oh Joel, handle Nietzsche with care dude. He is the most abrasive and confronting thinker I know of, and the only one whose books I have sometimes thrown across the room in anger and disgust. But he is also a true genius and original, and one of the best (and even loveliest) writers there is. You get everything with Nietzsche.
Hegal and Spinoza would be great for this channel. Locke, Hume, Bacon for more insight into the origins of modern science. I still need somebody to explain more to me about what Kant meant in simple short terms.
Knowing how to live and be 'successful' in life didn't help Nietzsche. His life was a failure.
Looking pretty fresh, now you only need to bring back the cheek/jawline stubble as well and you're good to go.
he looks horrible!!!!!
He looks horrible! Either lost a bet or new girlfriend/boyfriend?
Next react to Schopenhauer😂
Man Nietzsche really hated his guts. Probably one of the reasons, why he wrote his books.
Revenge creates the chance that people won´t do it again after facing the consequences ... Forgiveness is the invitation to do it again ^^
What's funny is that I'm currently watching the series "Andromeda", in which there's a whole race called "Nietzscheans".
Nietzche is a fun philosopher to learn. He is certainly a student favourite. But not because there is vast merit in his ideas, but because his ideas are more accessibly entertaining than for example Kant or Locke. I did philosophy at university (although not any more an expert), and that's what I took away.... Nice ideas, nicely put, but not necessary useful or right, if there is such a thing.
Nietsche is the 19th century version of Socrates: "Man is born as an animal and has the task of becoming human. Most people don't make it."
He is most definitely NOT any version of Socrates
Nietzsche didn't like Socrates. I think this is paraphrasing Nietzsche but he observed in Socrates last days. "To live is to be ill a long while..."
@@Iwantalloftheinformationhim critiquing Socrates is him in a way becoming Socrates
Er, the mustache is real by the way. Great video!
In my opinion, taking revenge doesn't do any good, but forgiveness is equally bad. Finding common ground by talking and negotiating is a possibility we humans have, and we should use it more often.
Except for the alcohol thing, Nietzsche wasn't far from Karl Marx who wrote that "religion is the opium of the people", and I can agree with that.
What was said about the "God is dead" quote is absolutely true, and Nietzsche's idea of replacing belief by human arts at least has influenced our culture a bit. However, I'm not sure if the ancient Greek drama changed their society for the better. There's much interpreted into it which probably didn't exist because, after all, people are people, and they went there for entertainment.
Having said that all, I once tried to read Nietzsche, but his use of the German language and of philosophical terms were beyond my understanding. I had a more or less scientific education, so I'm more used to texts that are straightforward. Maybe when I'll retire I'll try Nietzsche again, but I'm not sure yet.
German TV does occasionally include a philosopher in a discusion round.. Precht is well known ..
He is a Germanist, not a philosopher.
No real philosopher takes him seriously.
Stupid journalists who invited him onto TV shows made him popular.
I like watching US people tipping their toe into intellectual topics...its like watching the toddler learning how to walk.
You might have a point in general, but this guy is bright. No reason to mock him.
@@augustiner3821 Oh no i dont, he is good! Actually it was meant in a friendly like buddies mocking each other. Enough not so bright people everywhere including myself 😅
The church used the same instrument to keep people down
There is a citation about a talk between a factory director and a priest:
The director say to the priest: ”When you keep them obedient, then I keep them poor”
The "Original" quote
There is an old saying from the Middle Ages:
The king said to the bishop: ‘You keep them stupid, I'll keep them poor.’
Btw.: His name is pronounced "neets shuh" (for English speakers), definitely not "nee cha". "Nietz" most probably refers to a place in or around Germany, while the ending "-sche" is the female form of "of the", "belongs to" or "from close by".
You'll def need to read more of him. A 10 minute long video is not enough even to scratch the surface.
Poor bastard. Bald as fuck. LOVE FROM STRAYA! 😊
that buzzcut looks good on you.
Compared to other philosophers Nietzsche is very easy to read, so you should give it a try.
Nietzche is ♥️
Nietzsche is cool. Even if you don’t agree with all of his thoughts. It’s good to think about what he said.
For philosophy it's good when you can/learn German, because the translation is never so good /precise as the Original, because there is the general thoughts/mainset of the Germans inbedetinit, especially in philosophy.( I hope, I could make myself clear)
WOW!😃 I'm very impressed.
My favorite philosophy thinker, AMOR FATI🤘
This kind of video wont appeal to many, but I sincerly appreciate your interest.
Nietzsche is one of the 40 most famous philosophers. We started counting since 500 B JC . So it's really impressive.
Germany, France and the UK (Locke, Hume, Hobbes) have given birth to so many great minds.
Zarathustra is overated. If you are really interessted and have some time ; Read The Gay Science. It's a masterpiece.
Even if he hate Christianity he loved Dostoyevsky
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The aversion to Christianity may also have something to do with the fact that Nietzsche's father was a Lutheran pastor. A number of his ancestors were as well, and even his mother came from a pastor's family.
The problem with 18th and 19th century German philosophers was, that they could not write in a way that made their books remotely understandable. I had to try to read some snippets, and was immediately depressed.
I think I have understood Nietzsche pretty well from all my reading of him. But Kant is beyond, I don't 'get' Kant. Or let me ask this, do you think Kant would have liked Star Trek?
What did I think about the video? It was really pretty bad. He didn't really have a grasp of what Our Pal Nietzsche put forward. First, the video got the whole idea of the Übermensch completely wrong, top to bottom. Nietzsche's philosophy is not about how you can be come on. Second, Nietzsche's critique of Christianity is not that it sublimates revenge, and Nietzsche did not glorify revenge. Third, the ideas most central to Nietzsche's thought were entirely absent from the video. Where is the doctrine of the eternal return? Where is the will to power? Where is the role of perspectives in establishing meaning? They aren't in this video, yet they are central to Nietzsche's philosophy.
ok, this is only my interpretation. Because it is "Not-Being-Able-To-Take-Revenge" he does not rule out taking revenge. What he is talking about is that you are to weak (no political power/ no money/ not strong enough physically or mentally/ ...) to do so. So you hide behind forgivness since you cannot take revenge, lying to yourself.
If you want amazing, check out Richard Feynman (physicist).
Under the conditions of a nature made by humans, and this does not mean nature itself, but the world as humans have created their own nature, everything can include alcohol, other drugs, sex, hobbies, work, even vacuuming, collecting Pokemon cards.. .everything under the conditions of a man-made nature can make modern people addictive.
This is an insight that comes from Marx.
You may like Schopenhauer as well.
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I thought the first quote was Marcus Aurelius , not Nietzsche?
Most people don't understand Christianity. That's the problem we have.
"To believe in their God, Christians would have to look more redeemed to me.” (also Nietzsche)
and yet its not that simple, read Schopenhauer, Mainlander, and Camus
I give up JP if my comments are held by your automod it would be great if you can release it thanks.
Is that teally his moustach? No..joel says...Lol look at your thumbnail Joel for your video...x
Haven't you seen some ur-Bavarian types and their moustaches? There was/is a competition in Germany:Who has the best moustages?
It's Niets-sche pronounced.
Nitzsche criticised Christianity because it's nihilistic. The life is only seen as means to go to heavens and be god, which is denial of life, wishing that existence should end. But he said: Life and human is his self-mean, thus every philosopher who seeks the matter of life is a nihilist.
Nihilism also stands for gnostic faithes around the globe.
And how would these new philosophers transport their messages nowadays? On TikTok? Because young people aren't really reading much books anymore...
HIs mustache was really that big. 😉
Hi J> you want to learn a bit about Aust.. check out Miller Wilson
That thumbnail might get you on a watch list. Calling Nietzsche 'amazing' with your unfortunately timed haircut, could set off alarms. With no reason, of course.
Hello Joel. A somewhat niche video?
Actually, a somewhat Nietzsche video.
what did you do to all your lovely hair.
He looks horrible! Either lost a bet or new girlfriend/boyfriend?
His little brother stole it
Joel told us that Middle Brother was trying to do a very short cut, but he messed it up, so Little Brother finished the job by doing a full buzzcut.
Check out Arthur Schopenhauer , about as depressing a worldview as it gets 😂, but sadly enough quite close to reality.
Mainländer is even more depressing
Interesting thoughts, but didn't he ended up telling people how to live a satisfying life? Same as religion? Taking his own life as an example? What we can learn from Nietzsche is to ask ourselfs about the bubbles and routines we live in. Another Friedrich, prussian king Friedrich II said ..Everyone should be happy in their own way .. This is what people still try to do nowadays in the former prussian center - Berlin.
i think Philosophy does a great favor to humanity and civilization. But i cant see any of this in Nietzsche (im german btw). He just comes of as very narcissistic, sad and as a man who thinks mankind has any value above nature.
Dr. Walther Ziegler th-cam.com/video/gDERe48hvgs/w-d-xo.html with subtitles
Hey, nice reaction!
School of life videos kind of got me into some "new" (for me) philosophers as well. However his videos are quite inaccurate if you know these thinkers better. One really good channel on Nietzsche is calles "essentialsalts", if you want to dive deeper. No visuals and editing, but top class insights. He has a 47 minute answer to this video, taking it apart a bit. th-cam.com/video/X2tZcfjXbtY/w-d-xo.html
Give it a try. Nietzsche is often misrepresented, either because people cant be bothered to actually read him or because they want to strawman him.
Take school of life videos as a window into philosophy, but if you find anything interesting, do yourself a favor and look up some other sources.
Thanks. I clicked the "original video" link in the description, but it took me someplace I know not where. I've read all of Nietzsche's books, and I recognized pretty-damn-quick that the video was truly dreadful. I'm very interested in the video you linked. Mopping up all that mess would easily take 47 minutes, but I might find the essentialsalts critique to be a worthwhile refresher. It might remind me of something important I'd forgotten, or it might provide a fresh way of organizing Nietzsche's thought. You have to admit that some of Our Pal Nietzsche's books are a little higgledy-piggledy. I'm going there to watch your recommended video straightway.
I just got back from watching the essentialsalts video. Thank you for recommending it. I had not known the sources for the Lou Salome relationship story or for the horse story. They are both a lot shakier than I had thought.
I really appreciated his explanation of the Übermensch. I was struggling with how to explain it in a reply to another comment, and I just couldn't come up with the word "ideal" (as opposed to "real" or "actual"). But that is really what the Übermensch is--an ideal, a goal.
I also had never heard culture explained in the way essentialsalts expressed it--the preconditions for a way of life. I certainly couldn't have expressed it in the way he did, and I believe his explanation made sense. I have generally talked in terms of the institutions that stabilize society such that art (paintings, sculptures, operas, etc.) could be produced and promoted. Those institutions themselves call into being a sort of monumental architecture that embodies cultural ideals as well. But I had not conceptualized it so abstractly as he did. The preconditions that make a way of life possible has a sort of Foucaultian ring to it, doesn't it? Having read almost all of Foucault's books, it snaps into place easily.
Anyway, I thought you'd appreciate hearing back from me and knowing that your comment was very helpful. Thank you.
"name was already taken." LOL. Very nice. :)
Nietzsche is just a dude.
a smart one but still.
entertaining those thoughts of his is valuable, but that he's said it does not necessarily mean it's true.
omg you are a real genius. Have you ever read a book by him?
if he was so great, how come he's in hell?
Look up Absurdism... a branch of existentialism...its the logical philosophical conclusion.. ironically because our ego wants to have meaning.. the meaning of our life is ours and ours alone. Collective or universal meaning is absurd.
Try looking up English John locke
Get into cioran and Arthur shopppenaur
Learn to listen and you will benefit even from those who only talk nonsense. Plato
Stephen Fry , ? ,,,,,,and others
Stephen John Fry is a British-Austrian writer, screenwriter, actor, director, journalist, poet, comedian and television presenter.
Not a philosopher
@@Michael_from_EU_Germany I disagree,,,,,, you don’t always require someone to stick a label on it
You didn't even read him. . .
Please don't watch School of Life philosophy videos for legitimate education. They are so poorly researched.