Unleash Your Piaggio Typhoon: Exhaust Fitting & De-restriction Guide
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- Hey there scooter enthusiasts! Welcome to Scooter Street! In this exciting video, we're going to take you through an exhaust fitting and de-restriction guide for the Piaggio Typhoon. Get ready to unleash the full potential of your ride!
We kick things off by showcasing the parts we'll be working on, including the exhaust and ECU. We guide you through the process of disconnecting the exhaust and making the necessary modifications to the ECU. We also delve into the transmission, clutch, and variator, providing tips and tricks along the way.
Next, we demonstrate how to prepare the exhaust before installation, ensuring all nuts and bolts are securely in place. We highlight the importance of proper positioning and tensioning for optimal performance.
As we assemble everything, we explain the reasoning behind our pen marks, making it easy to identify any loosened parts during visual inspections. Moving on, we discuss the emissions box and provide insights into how we enhance the airflow for better exhaust performance.
We then shift our focus to the carburetor and discuss the importance of checking the manifold, Reed valve, and Reed pedals for any cracks or damage. We guide you through fitting the exhaust body and adjusting the spacing for a perfect fit.
Get ready to unleash the full potential of your Piaggio Typhoon and experience the thrill of a high-performance ride. Let's hit the road and leave the competition in the dust! Please visit www.scooterstreet.com.au to view all the parts used in this video.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Introduction and Overview
00:09 - Panel Removal and Parts Overview
00:19 - Disconnecting Exhaust Emissions Header Pipe
00:32 - Options for ECU Replacement
00:51 - Explaining the Air Control Solenoid
00:59 - Disassembling the Carburetor and Airway
01:13 - Checking and Cleaning Transmission Components
01:36 - Inspecting and Lubricating Various Parts
02:00 - Upgrading Clutch Springs and Variator Rollers
03:09 - Marking and Aligning Parts for Installation
03:36 - Fitting and Adjusting the Exhaust Body
04:09 - Tightening Bolts and Checking Clearance
04:46 - Installing Higher Tension Clutch Springs
05:30 - Explanation of Pen Marks and Visual Inspection
06:05 - Fitting the Carburetor and Checking Manifold
06:32 - Checking for Cracks and Replacing Parts
07:07 - Fitting the Exhaust Body and Header Pipe
07:41 - Adjusting and Tightening Bolts
08:15 - Checking the Exhaust Bracket and Fixings
08:48 - Installing the Emissions Box
09:33 - Jet Change and Tuning
10:01 - Finalizing the Transmission with Rollers
10:31 - Summary of Modifications and Results - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Hot dang, you all! This is almost exactly what I plan for my ET2 50cc this fall! The Wild Lion exhaust, rollers, clutch springs, derestriction, carb jet...plus a Malossi 70cc kit. I get so much out of watching your videos. I swear you folks have me believing I could actually do the work myself. Well, I'm gonna give it a shot...but I do have a talented backup in case I screw up! Thank you as usual...
Trust me when I say, "if we can do it so can you"😜 Mistakes are moments of learning!
Good to see you guys back. 👍
Thanks Paul👍, Brad is now limited in his availability but we are still producing during the business of running 2 businesses. We greatly appreciate your support, comments and feedback.🙌.
thanks man!!!!!
Every piaggio/gilera i ever derestricted and put a malossi willion/polini original/gianelli go exhaust on, has needed around a 72 main jet.
Of course we also always remove the restrictor plate between the carb and the airfilter, the bronze one. Full derestriction
Good to hear. We are big fans of that exhaust style for the street scooters, can't go wrong.
Do you also remove the restrictor from the header?
Very nice typhoon, and the exhaust is very pretty! I have a question - so, I have a 1st Gen. Zip, it has an brand new airsal sport 50cc ac cylinder, leovince TT handmade without restrictions, straight intake, carbon reeds, twin air filter. I bought a brand new Motoforce PHVA 17,5mm, and only ran like it should with a 58 main jet, spark plug was coffee brown, but also had a lot of problems like starting, keeping idle, top end was stuttering. Tried a 62 main jet, and the plug was straight wet and all black. But, when I tried a Polini CP 17,5mm carb, with an 83 main jet, which it still has, its running a bit lean, but also every other carb problem i had before dissapeared. Maybe you have any clue what has happened? Where would most likely the problem be?
That does sound unusual, we have had some issues with the needle position on the standard carby but with your issue I would lean more toward a faulty auto Choke (enrichener). If you heat/cool test it you will find it is not closing/opening correctly.
Hello, i'm trying to remove the variator ring (restrictor ring) on typhoon 50. However i'm not sure if mine has one. Is there any way to see this without having to screw off the nut? Also do you know if its possible to screw off the nut on the variator without an impact drill? If its not do you by any chance know what socket length you need? Thanks
You can take a photo in between the 2 faces of the variator to see if there is a ring. Yes, to remove, watch the variator fitting video. th-cam.com/video/hUZ8eqIRFCk/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ScooterStreet
Hi, do you have such a MALOSSI DIGITRONIC CDI module? Such an exhaust pipe burned out in my case, it was used for 3 years, the fire was coming out. Replaced with LeoVince Touring.
Yes, we use the Malossi ECU for Euro 4 and Euro 5 models.
Hello sir, can you please make a video on how to adjust the carburateor on aprilia sr 50, i run my air screw at 3 half turns and my bike has a high idle, when i run it at 2 halfs the bike idles smooth and slow. But i don t know exactly where i should leave it because i am scared that it can run lean
The air mix screw should be set at 1 turn out as a general rule, this link is a great guide for a better understanding for tuning of the Carb.
www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/PHBG_tuning_made_easy_(a_step_by_step_guide)
Hey, I commented on another video. I was trying to find my carburetor today on my piaggio typhoon 50cc, this exact model but I cant find it. Could you tell me where to find it so I can find out which carburetor it is?
at minute 1:09 it is on the left side above the trans cover.
HELP!!. Have a 2019 NRG for a few years now. it's to slow to ride. can't climb any hills. 45kph max if I'm lucky. 8k rpm max at full throttle on the center stand. I removed the carb restriction and put 4.8 rollers. de restricted variator bush. still super slow. What is the main thing holding this thing back?
Check for an electronic restriction, ask the local Piaggio dealer for the answer for this model.
Hi boss i have a 2014 Aprilia 50mt can i do what you have done here to my model 50. Its completely stock at the moment.
Yes Sir, but I dont believe your model has the same components. It is an earlier version and more simple.
Cool cool. Il be visiting your online store soon for parts✌️cheers
Hi i have the same piaggio. Fully deresteicted. 4g and 6g mix rollers. Cut and blocked the solenoid pipe and derestricted tecnigas silent pro exhaust. Typhoon goes around 40mph but im sure it should go faster. It goes a lil bit better downhill. Is there a chance that the ecu is restricted?
Yes ultimately we use the Malossi ECU when asking for highest top speed, usually paired with 70cc kit.
@@scooterstreetau So you think that after all that i have done the ecu is the problem?
@@luc4352 I would say 40 will be the top speed. As I mention before ultimately we use the Malossi ECU when asking for highest top speed, paired with 70cc kit.
Hey guys, have a similar engine. SR50 R Euro 4. Interesting to see how you guys did it. I've done the following and recorded 55mph downhill on GPS. I appreciate what you've done is a more Conservative derestriction though.
I currently have the following
- Standard 17.5mm Dellorto Carb PHVA
(restrictor pulled out @ 68 Main Jet Currently,
l'Il up this)
- Standard Airbox
- Leo Vince TT Exhaust (Derestricted)
- Malossi Euro 4 ECU
- Malossi Primary Gear Up Kit 14/39 (New gear
ratio is 0.0805)
- 4.8 Gram Rollers
- Unrestricted Variator Bush
- Polini Speed Drive Belt
- Standard Clutch, Springs, Contra Spring
- Standard Variator
I'm just about to put on a Malossi Cast Iron 70cc Sport cylinder to just prevent external factors such as wind and hills from dropping my speed as much. What would you recommend changing the jet to? Would a 72 be okay or would you start higher?
Love the channel guys, thanks for all the info, keep releasing videos!
HI AB, thanks for the great comment and especially your list. (take note viewers)🙌
The Leo and the gear kit are showing their worth on your speedo, nice work. Our build is to a customers small budget so a good opportunity to show what we did with our limits. 70kit-The headless kit is a winner for these engine and start at 94 main jet, you can remove the snorkel and add an air stuffer or jet down if too rich.
Very keen to hear your experience.
@@scooterstreetau Hey Guys, So I installed the Malossi Sport 70cc kit today. Started perfect and ran great although when I left it to idle to get warm I noticed there was coolant which seemed to be leaking between the cylinder and cylinder head. Only a very small amount. So I turned off the bike straight away.
I'm not sure how this happened as it's a brand new kit with new gaskets.
I tightened the nuts in a star pattern but not to the correct torque as I don't have a torque wrench, I just did it as tight as I could being mindful not to strip the bolts, could it be this?
I also presume I'd need a new gasket set now as the paper base gasket has already been compressed?
Last thing... I also lightly dipped my finger into two stroke oil and applied a thin layer to the piston gasket and coolant gasket as I thought it seals better but now I'm starting to think maybe I shouldn't have done that with the coolant gasket on the outside?
Just wanted to check I'd done everything right, any help is most appreciated :) Cheers chaps.
If you do the head bolts up too tight, you can actually warp the head slightly.
The gaskets should be used dry.
Some like to use a smear of high temp gasket sealer.
Definitely buy yourself a torque.
@@paulbudford Cheers mate. I figured as much and purchased a new cylinder head and torqued to spec. Running okay now with no Leaks!
@@scooterstreetau As an update. Installed the 70cc kit after I'd torqued down a new head to spec. Incredible the difference in torque it makes. Currently got all the same parts and upjetted Main Jet to 72. Just breaking it in currently so haven't tested top speed as of yet but at full throttle, she pulls well with no bogging etc...
Do I need to do anything with the needle as in the Malossi instructions it says to put the needle on the richest setting? I presume I'd also need to play with my air/fuel mixture screw?
Thanks guys :)
Would deristricting the ECU be the same for my 2017 Aprilia SR 50 motard? it has the paggio 4T engine apparently, still trying to learn more about my sons scooter.
Does it have the same electrical components?
@@scooterstreetau not sure I'll have to find out having a hard time getting info on this scooter just knew it had the paggio 4T (4V) engine so just assumed it would be similar. Thanks for replying to me
@@kellyschafer8873 The one in our video is 2stroke. Check the engine number Prefix.
Hi, i have a aprilia sr 50 motard 2020, i took all the restriction out, and put a 19mm carb, yasuni r, 50 airsal, and malsossi multivar 2000 with 7g rollers. The top speed is only 60kmh but the bike sounds good when riding, any tips?
And i took the restirictions off the yasuni
@@sputnikki86 The 19mm carb and the Yasuni R needs a 70kit. for it to work with the 50cc you need high rpm so light rollers.
have same scooter, i think it might be gearing , changed today giannelli Extra exhaust ONLY and it vent from 45-47kmh up to 62-65 kmh
I'm looking for a wiring diagram for a 2018 2T Typhoon, my right hand brake handle does not turn on the brake light, anybody know where I could find one? Or preferably a complete workshop service manual?
Google search and you will find the wiring diagram in the workshop Manual.
The brake switch is located at the hinge of the lever and could be the possible cause for fault. Remove the mirrors and release the screws holding the top cover to reveal the workings of the brake and brake switch.
@@scooterstreetau Thanks, I've tried googling but couldn't find anything specific for the Euro4 model, I guess the wiring is probably very similar to the previous generation, but I'd hope to find a specific diagram, or better so, a complete shop manual. I've found that for several other Piaggio and Aprilia scooters I've had before, but this one proved tricky. So if anyone has a specific link or tip on where to find something, that would be much appreciated 👍
I will ask u one more opinion. Im heavy person 115kg and living in town with lots of uphill-downhill roads. My Piaggio Typhoon with current setup is a bit struggle on hills so I decided last , 70cc investments.
Setup should be:
Piaggio Typhoon 2T - AC (2011)
*Exhaust Mallosi Wild Lion
*Malossi 70cc cast iron sport kit
* Mallosi Multivar 2000 +7.2gr rollers
* Dellorto 17.5 PHVA with 80 main jet for start
* Clutch Bell Mallosi wing bell ( im scared for oem overheating )
* Oem clutch with oem springs
* Torque Spring Mallosi Purple
* Oem Belt
I wonder will this setup ok, ( aka rollers, springs, jet) regarding im 115kg and I cant afford some better exhaust for now...
Im not interested to be fastest, i dont care for top speed. I just wanna solid start, better power, peacefull uphill driving, so i will not be a obstacle on road....😂
Thank you for response.....
The set up sounds fine as a base, once you are ridding only then will you find out the results of the hill climbing ability. The solution will be: a correctly tuned carby and a gearing set up where the rear pulley effectively reduces the gearing as the rpm lowers. So medium weighted rollers with a overcoming Torque spring. The purple may not be ideal as it is a short spring in length, a longer spring with slightly higher tension than OEM.
For the clutch set up, try for a Polini G3 adjustable clutch and the bell an MHR clutch bell or Polini Speed Bell Evo, these have larger cooling holes/vents to factor in concerns regarding over heating.
Im working small changes on Piaggio Typhoon 50cc, E2 (2012)
Malossi Wild Lion exhaust, Malossi Red Sponge, 64 main jet, OEM Variator with 6.4 gram rollers, OEM clutch. Should I remove carburetor restriction? Thanks...
Yes, Teh brass diffuser. This will increase the air flow so remember to check the jetting once removed.
@@scooterstreetau By the way, is Malossi Wild Lion better than stock one ? And thank you for fast reply and Im looking forward with newest videos....
@@Zmajur I believe in terms of performance the Wild Lion is far better than the original.
I would like your opinion. I made a test run ( without checking spark plug color, its a bit cold outside for all day setup), mostly up to hill. On 1/4 throttle engine stumbles. On 1/2 its run mostly fine, but between 1/2 and full throttle engine gain wild boost power.
Carb settings: Main jet 64 without air diffuser
Exhaust: Malossi Wild Lion
Air Filter: Malossi red sponge
Variator roller weight: 6.4g
Should I go to smaller main jet or just try to adjust carb needle. Sory for bad English. Thank you...
@@Zmajur Start with needle.
Hi, I've just done the variator centre change myself but haven't disabled the ECU/CDI unit yet. Is it ok to use the scooter in this state until my mechanic is free?
Yes it should be fine if you have only changed the variator.
Would you recommend I remove the carb restricter? I think its the brass plate thing.@@scooterstreetau
If you are replacing the main jet, yes.@@connorwu1233
@@scooterstreetau Could you please briefly explain what the plate does? My mechanic suggests that the scooter will run poorly with it removed. Thanks
The plate restricts the air , if reoved you must retune the carby.@@connorwu1233
Bonjour j ai tout fais comme vous sur mon scooter ,mais en milieu de poignée d accélérateur j ai plus d acceleration .merci de votre aide
Vous devez continuer à régler votre scooter. Vous devez comprendre que chaque scooter n'est pas identique et que chacun doit être traité individuellement pour obtenir le meilleur résultat final. Bonne chance.
Hello people, i have a sr 50 2020 that i recently converted to a manual choke instead of automatic. When i cold start it with the choke on, the bike smokes and stalls, or doesn’t start at all. What can be the problem?
Leovince tt
Dellorto phva 17,5 with 65 main jet
The bike starts ok without the choke but i want to cold start it with the choke on so it can warm up faster
Why did you move to the Manual choke?
@@scooterstreetau because the automatic got stuck open
@@Octavian17 You can try these things:
Start the engine without choke and no throttle.
Start engine with choke pulled slightly, hold until idle settles.
Many people twist the throttle too much so shy on the throttle.
hello, piaggio 50 bearings are playing and I want to change them in my country in Romania, I can't find only NTN available, what do you think of NTN bearings?
NTN are fine, we buy our bearing kits from Europe and use NTN and SKF.
@@scooterstreetau I found skf, I will buy skf, they are the best bearings
@@GeorgeBGP Ok Great! You can get C3 or C4 clearance grades.
@@scooterstreetau thank you, I have one more question, the scooter goes with 85-90 (heavier) 10 wheels, if I put 13 wheels from the piaggio nrg, what speed could it get and if I put some 6g rollers, what changes could I make to have the speed bigger without changing the cylinder? I was thinking about the multivar 2000 clutch I have from Malossi but not the variator?
@@GeorgeBGP If the NRG wheel diameter is larger then you will achieve a higher top speed but getting there may take a little longer, I always suggest to try and then you will know. The speedo reading may change too so test with GPS, before and after changing the wheels. Adding an exhaust, varaitor and secondary gear upgrade will give more top speed.
2t or 4t?
This is 2T.
Is this a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke?
2 stroke
Hello can you do one for zip 2t?
Ok sounds good, I have a standard zip in the shop.
@@scooterstreetauthanks mate your a legend, do you guys have a shop on the Gold Coast?
Yes on the GC.@@threefootflatty3688
@@scooterstreetau yeah I swear I thought I saw your store on the Gold Coast, but when I search your shop up I cannot find a location
Yes we open only for appointments, so we can focus on the customer.🙌@@threefootflatty3688
Isnt 62 too weak mainjet?
Too weak for an exhaust? When you tune the carb to suit you end up with the sorrect jet.
@@scooterstreetau ok, but is 72 main jet too big for aprilia sr that has giannelli extra v2 and stock airbox?
Only the person tuning the carby can answer that! Have you tuned the carby to suit the set up?@@jari887
@@scooterstreetau yeah but i need help, what jet size would be best to aprilia sr 50 2019 euro4, kinda same as the scooter on video and i have done everything that you guys have done.
There is no solid answer, it is not a square block in a square hole. It MUST be tuned to suit, all of our videos are about TUNING to SUIT. IT MUST BE TUNED AND TESTED. I would start rich and then come down from there. @@jari887
hello i bought unlimited cdi but it stops after 7000rpm help :/
Where did you buy the CDI?
@@scooterstreetau VOCA CDI
@@ibrahimcabaroglu3864 We use the Malossi CDI, but you must change all of the other parts to gain an advantage. Did you watch the video? Also the other video relating to the derestriction?
Top speed?
We discuss at 12:10 - 13:14. This is the top speed for me weighing 85kgs on a flat road, no descent or wind advantage.
@@scooterstreetau thanks
I'm not sure you know better that the engineers at malossi. The restrictor you removed from the Ex header was most likely a venturi - this adds power.
A venturi is the slim part of a carburettor? It's necessary for the Carb to function. It can not be removed as it is the Carb essentially, I suppose it does add power as without a venturi the bike wouldn't run at all?
The pipe they disabled on the Carb is called a solenoid, it's there to make the bike run lean for Euro 4 emissions and the ECU controls this in order to restrict the bikes power so is necessary to remove. I presume this is what you mean but your comment doesn't make much sense to me.
Josh, you are too funny😂 a venturi, stop it, I know your having a joke😂 Everyone knows it is a restrictor cone. There are hundreds of videos on TH-cam showing how to derestrict the restricted exhausts. It must be removed to increase air flow..
@@AlexBill1994 He is just having a laugh AB..