Honda Ridgeline and pilot Transmission Fluid change 2016 & UP
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- Please confirm with your manual which fluid you need. Fluid requirements may change over time. Video is a maintenance suggestion.
In this video I show you how you can service your own Honda Ridgeline or Honda Pilot in the transmission fluid change. I have a 2018 Honda Ridgeline rtle which I will be doing the service on.
(Now I only did one drain but its recommended that you do this 3.3 QT drain, fill, drive flush 3 times.)
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Thank you so much for this video. I just did this service yesterday on my 2019 and this video was crucial. Your tip about moving the trans filter to the front was very helpful. Thank you!
Excellent detailed ATF d&f DIY. I think when I get to it for the first time I'm just going to do a simple fluid d&f and skip the filter. I'm a senior, and I suspect skipping that part will make it much easier for me.
Thanks for the video. Detailed and to the point. Well done
Great video, thanks. I like how you identify all the tools you will need!
Thank you!
Great video, thank you! You made it look easy and gave me the confidence to tackle this. I've done a million oil changes and lots of other maintenance and repairs, but automatic transmissions kind of scare me, for whatever reason I don't know.
Just hit 50k today on my 2019 RTL-E, and it's due for an oil change, the rear brakes just started grinding (pads and rotors are in transit), and I want to do the transmission oil, too. I'm going with Idemitsu H Plus instead of the Honda oil. It was a bit cheaper, I trust Idemitsu, and it meets DW-1 specs. I'll do the filter next time.
Very good show!
Apparently, the filter is a lifetime filter. It is pretty difficult to get the bracket on/off. Changing the fluid only is still a viable option.
I don't know about the term "lifetime" for the filter, but fwiw, I do agree changing the fluid alone, a good option.
It’s NOT difficult to pull that inline filter off. Lol
"Lifetime" means long time, but not forever. I have a BMW E46, and they called the manual transmission fluid "lifetime," which actually meant like 100k miles. Like most manuals, it was easy enough to change, so I I did when I bought mine used with a ton of miles. It was a little hard to get into first gear but after I drained the black stuff that looked like ol' Jed's Texas tea crude oil and refilled with the proper Redline (ATF, oddly enough), it shifted like a dream. I understand that this Honda 6-speed is a lot like a manual, so I'm hopeful that keeping the oil clean will keep it shifting properly, and I'm not too ocncerned about the filter. I'm not doing the filter with my 50k d+f but I'll probably do it next time. They're cheap enough from Rock Auto.
Thx for this great video... I have a '17 RTL-E... i bought it used at 25k... manual says change tranny fluid at 90k... last few months noticed the truck 'surging' when going 30-45 mph... by 'surging', i mean rpm would go up and down and up and down... like its hunting for proper gear. I only have 47k on the truck... Interweb research reveals 3 things:
1. This is a known prob with the 6 speed trans... Honda has since revised the maintenance sched for trans fluid change every 30k.
2. There is a service bulletin regrading this TSB 17-026.
3. Honda used the term 'judder' instead of 'surging'.
After trans fluid and filter change - no more judder... shifts are smooth.
Thx again for your great videos!
Awesome. Thanks for the information. It’s time for my next change as well.
I have a 2017 also bought in new in July 2016. On the way home that day I noticed the trans didn’t shift or act right. It only got worse over time. Honda preformed the service bulletin, which was to flush it three times and refill it. It did as good as new for about a year. These trans are junk! Honda can’t seem to build a decent transmission for their larger vehicles.
By trans fluid change, do you mean a flush or a drain and fill like Yuriy did?
@@rb5235 It's not just on Hondas from what I've seen online. It seems like other manufacturers have this issue too.
@@IamGroot786 I simply drained/filled one time. So far (about 4k miles), still no judder. I plan on changing trans fluid every 3rd or 4th oil change since its simple and pretty inexpensive.
Great video, I am going to have to do this on. 2019
This is very similar to my 2007 odyssey.
Thanks!
Well Done!
Thx man
You do a very excellent video and are informative about how to do the job. The only question I have is can you share what book you are getting your info from, my owner's guide only goes to page 161. I have tried to find a repair manual but no luck. Joe B 2018 Ridgeline
Nice video
nice I dint catch the ft lbs on the crush washer
My son and I just performed this service on my 2019 Ridgeline six speed transmission. It was pretty straight forward although removing/replacing the filter is a pain in the a$$. I used a 1/4" drive ratchet and deep well 10mm socket for this task. My transmission drained about 4 1/4 quarts of fluid (as measured in an empty anti-freeze jug) so I used all four quarts to refill. When I checked the fluid level after the change, per the instructions at the end of this video, it came up just below the "HOT" mark on the dipstick. Changing the filter requires a little more fluid and I will monitor this level for a few days in case I need to add some. An interesting note; prior to doing this I called my local Honda dealer service department and a certified independent Honda service center to ask about this service. Both places insisted that there was no filter on this transmission with the dealer service rep vehemently insisting I was wrong. The independent guy finally admitted there is a filter. Honda wanted $129.00 to drain and refill 3 qts. of oil, with no filter change and the independent guy would charge $269.00 to drain and refill 3 qts. and change the filter. Honda service recommends only changing the 3 qts. They don't flush these transmissions. Your experience may vary.
I just had the same experience with two of my local Honda. They kept insisting there is no filter just a “mesh” filter.
How much it cost for you to do it yourself ?
They're incorrect, strictly speaking, but they're actually sort of correct.. sort of. The Honda 6-speed is an odd duck that has more in common with some manual transmissions than most automatics. It doesn't have a typical filter on the pickup tube or whatever in the bottom of the transmission oil pan, which many (most?) other automatics have. That's what I was told anyway. The inline filter you see in this video is unusual.
Yuriy,
did you resolve the right boot issue and since you tow, any thoughts to adding an OEM cooler?
LP
Ok so I have been inspecting that and I think my Honda has an oil leak. The boots seem fine. I need to do some thorough work to find out where it’s coming from but until the weather warms up I’m not really interested in working under the truck lol. The truck does have the upgraded cooler as it’s the AWD RTLE model so no “better” OEM is available for me. Next step would be some sort of aftermarket cooler.
Being that you towed that 3K mile trip and worked the transmission hard my 10¢s, I would drive around a few days and drain and few more days and drain.
I have a 2017 RTL-T with the six speed and the filter was mounted higher up and it was not fun to reach the mounting bracket bolt and hose clamps. Yours had that tubing connected to the bottom edge of the pan which looked easy to reach, lucky you.
Also, just yesterday (Sunday) I added the Honda OEM cooler, bit of work, but got it done. Anyways, thanks for your posts 👍
Thanks for the concern. I may be in a position to have to replace all of it anyways. My right boot leaked grease from what looks to be a loose clamp. If I can't repack it I will have to pull out the axle and I will have no choice but to refill the transmission.
Where do you get rid of the used ATF? My trash hauler takes motor oil but that's it.
Did you refill the transmission through the dipstick tube or the actual filler hole? Just curious because I need to do this maintenance soon. Thanks for the great video!
Through the dipstick I believe. The manual states is 3.3qts but in reality you will need more. I used all 4 qts as I stated at the end of the video but have heard people using as much as 5 qts. I am not sure why this is but this is what is to be expected. If you plan on doing a full flush its recommended that you do this 3.3 qts flush up to 3 times. Drain, fill, drive repeat. Not sure what the distance was but probably a a few miles should do it. maybe even do it between 3 fill ups but again I am not sure what the requirement was if you wanted to do a full flush.
Fill through the dipstick, I measure how much comes out then add in that amount, drive it around the block get it up to temp then check the level and add if needed.
If it didn’t have a dipstick, then you measure the amount. Since it does have a dipstick, follow what he showed you to make sure the amount is correct level, otherwise you may hurt the tranny by being under-serviced.
Great vdo, thx. After trying 2h to put that damned filter bolt I changed for a slightly longer. Like seen somewhere the ing must be fired, not enough. Something punished by the law better.🤭 Dealership in Quebec don't change the filter, don't have it in stock either.
Easy change !!!!
Easy as 1,2,3
The filter bolt is absolutely wretched to get to. I tried every ratchet and extensions in my kit and ran out of daylight so I went ahead and changed out the fluid and called it quits for the night. Maybe tomorrow…
How to know if you have the 6AT vs 9ZF ?
ZF9 has buttons to shift gears , the transmission plug is on the bottom of the transmission facing the ground and uses different ATF
6AT still has a handle to shift gears, the transmission plug it’s on bottom but facing the passenger side .
What year is your truck? I'm not sure about Pilots, but Ridgelines had the 6-speed through 2019 and switched to the 9 for 2020. If yours looks different than what we see in the video, I'd guess you have a 2020+ with the 9-speed.
Where is the transmission filter on a 2016 Honda Pilot
Beware. The 2020 and up do not take the fluid type shown in this video. Takes the ATF Type 3.1
2020 honda pilot 6sp take dw1 as i have a 2020 6spd ,9spd takes atf type 3.1
Great video except for 2 key additions:
1) cut a ratchet in half! The nut that holds the filter bracket is hard to get at. You can’t see it and have to feel for it. The problem is how to loosen and tighten it. If you take a normal ratchet and socket and get it in the proper spot there is no room to work the ratchet. Out of frustration I took the ratchet to my grinder and chopped it in half! Because of the smaller size you could actually work the ratchet in the small space. I bet every Honda service center has a small ratchet for just servicing transmissions.
2) 3.3 quarts is crap. Before doing the service I bought 4 quarts of fluid. I drained the old fluid and put back in the plug. I then added the “magic” 3.3 quarts, nothing on the dipstick. I added some more, nothing 🤷♂️ I added all 4 quarts and still nothing. I then started making some phone calls. I found out the whole system contains 9 quarts. I had a neighbor take me to an auto shop to get more fluid. It ended up taking 5 quarts.
Worked pretty well and easily for me honestly. I had almost no issues. Maybe my tools are slightly more sized for the operation.
In my video I stated that I had to use all 4 Quarts. The 3.3 is the manufacture notation so I stated that as a base line but followed up with the 4qrt notation.
Did you happened to park at an incline when you did the fluid change/check which could explained the 5 quarts?
If that’s the first change, normal wearing in of the clutch packs and internals could be all the particulate. Likely no need to be concerned
My drain plug looked the same as Yuriy's. The muddy looking stuff is from the clutch packs. The reason Honda doesn't drain all of the fluid is because that clutch pack material actually makes those clutches work better.
Does the 2020 Honda Pilot ex-L have the transmission filter?
If its a 6AT , then it has an external transmission fluid filter which is black on the driver’s side of the transmission, just follow the transmission lines and you’ll see it
Yeah that's the amount I had at 30k I have 33k.thats a little more then it should be and that means start changing the fluid every 15k instead of every 30k.do to the 6spd problem of over heating the fluid burning it faster
That was a lot of debris on the magnet. 3 quarts is only a partial change... are you going to change it a few more times to get all that old burned fluid out? With that much shavings on the drain bolt, I would.
I was not planning on fully flushing the system. I called Honda and the service that they usually do is just the 3.3 QT flush. Also I did do the 3000 mile tow across America so my debris might be appropriate for the load and for the first time change? Do you recommend I get it replaced? I was planning on doing it at 15-20K intervals from here on out to keep it maintained.
@@YuriyMotso I run it for a week and then change it again, if you want it to be problem free. It won't hurt it. Don't need to do the filter but I'd swap out the fluid. You had some pretty high trans temps on that trip. Good videos by the way. I enjoyed them.
I’ve been told that you should never flush one of these transmissions. You should do two changes in quick succession.
@@bernarrcoletta7419 I asked my friend who works at honda as a mechanic and he says that they just flush and pour in 3.5 QTs. Honda doesn't even do more than 1 for their transmission flush. Now there is I believe a full system flush that is like 12 QTs but not sure if that is something I need to do. Maybe since I did a much more intense trip than most people would ever do. Ill think about doing a second flush.
Check ridgelineownersclub site. Honda doesn’t recommend actual “flushes”, but instead a 3x drain, fill, drive cycle. This seems to be recommended to get maximum fluid exchange if you encounter an over temp.
I started to have trans issues right at 30,000 miles with my Black Addition
Oh no. That’s unfortunate. I just am about to do my next service. Been good so far.
Yeah that's when mine started at 30k also,so far reading thats when people started having issues shudders jitters vibration. I bought my car at 25k waited till at 30k noticed some odd things with shifting .started reading up and I did a 3x drain and fill .my magnet looked like his .that's to much debris from transmission. I drained it drove around for 30 min and repeat 3x .I have 34k now so far so good on my pilot 6spd.but after these 3x now we have to do tranny drain and fills at every 15k now.i also disabled the vcm and few other quirks disappeared do to vcm .like my heat at idle would blow cold air after driving 1 hr or even warmed up at idle it blew cold then driving would be hot since disabling vcm this hasn't been an issue
Is this the 6 speeds version?
Yes
How often should the differential fluid be replaced?
30k
Im so glad i own a Toyota.
Why is that? I have owned two Tacomas, a 2004 off road and 2015 pre runner with 4x4. Great trucks loved them both. Currently my dad and brother in law both have 2018 Tacoma off-road and 2020 sport. Both are not happy with their trucks. I on the other hand am more than happy. I love this truck. It’s the best decision I have ever made and personally glad I did not get a 2018 Tacoma off road like I was planning on. This truck is more useful in more realistic scenarios in my personal experience than a Tacoma.
They have their problems too.
Mine has the 9 speed. Is it the same process and amount?
No
How do u like truck so far?
Honestly, the more I own it the more I love it. I for sure am so glad I didn’t buy a new Tacoma which I almost did. My brother in law did and so did my dad and both of them regret it compared to my truck. They bought the hyped truck that carries a good rep but not practical for today’s needs or compared to the Honda. IMO. If people are interested I might make a video on what I do and don’t like about my truck.
@@YuriyMotso yes very interested. I was on edge on the tacoma as well. I have a honda car. I like how easy it is still to work on. My honda has 213k. Still running strong.
What year the Ridgeline with 9 speed ?
I believe 2020 started the 9 speeds on Ridgelines
Have you had any problems with your truck? At 2000 miles, my truck was low a quart of oil. I added a quart, and at 2500 miles, I changed the oil & filter. Keeping a close eye on the oil level.
Not yet. I made a disclaimer at the end of the video if you didn't catch it that I had to use 4 QTs of fluid not 3.3. I had to call my friend who is a mechanic at Honda and he said they always fill 3.5 QTs in the pilots and ridgelines at the dealership. I noticed that after I followed all the steps I still couldn't get a reading so I knew the only thing left was that I was low on fluid. So I kept adding up till I got 4 QTs in and then it was reading well. Now this is my experience. I let the truck drain for a while. I left it for a good 30 minutes while I went and did another project so maybe I got a bit more out then most people would.
@@YuriyMotso My trans fluid is fine, my engine oil was low.
@@dane5896 oh sorry I miss understood, I thought you were talking about the transmission and used Oil instead of fluid in the sentence. I can go and check my trucks oil but so far from my experience with the truck its never been low. I have had that issue on my Subarus in the past as they ate oil like it was free.
I put in 4qts and still not even reach the bottom level on the stick. Any idea?
Yes, every vehicle may be a little different. In my video I stated I used a little more than 4 qts. I think I stated 4.4 qts.
How often does this service need to be done?
15000 miles if you tow or else it’s I believe every 30k
You doing a drain and fill????
Replace all the fluid..
I did a drain and fill. You can do this 3 times to fully flush the system with a break in between taking a Short drive for a few miles and drain again.
Never "flush" a transmission.. Honda only does "drain and refill" I would drain and refill about 2-3times! That was a lot of metal shavings, which is only because you’ve been towing. To be expected.