This is by far the most detailed and useful video I've seen on mixing vocals and backvocals. If you happen to have a video on vocal harmonies or how to produce backvocals, that would be killer! Keep up the amazing work!!
@@mixbustv I will be joining soon! Just waiting for my subscription on another site to expire. I also hope to have more mixes finished by then to take fully advantage of your feedback.
Vocals..... are a lot of work. More than any other element of a modern mix I feel like vocals require the tightest editing and automating. I haven’t found any shortcuts to going through them piece by piece and cleaning up every nuance to make them sound professional. Vocals are what 95% of ears are going to be focused on 95% of the time. Love this channel and lots of great tips 🙏
Wauw, great in depth session, very useful and it's not just putting a vocal to a send with some delay or reverb, so much more to focus on, thx for the insight David, such tutorials are very helpful and as a member I can recommend joining the channel, because the tutorials for members are definitely the money worth it and the mixing consultations are thorough, a huge difference with other channels I was member from, they tell you only what's wrong and do not give alternatives or solutions, with David's evaluation you receive solutions. I take his comments next to my sessions and run through his suggestions and apply them on my production, with result. And at the end that positive vibe this generates, gives the energy to continue with new productions instead of quitting. Slogan: Mixbus TV keeps you on track ! :)
Promise me you are not going to make this video private. I need to watch it again and again. This video could serve as a complete course. Thank you David.
Grande David.. davvero complimenti... ti seguo da quando hai fatto il primo video insieme a Warren su produce like a pro, ma solo adesso ho capito che sei italiano... davvero grande e complimenti. Anche noi abbiamo i nostri campioni, grazie.
I notice the ratio on the sidechain compressors for delays and reverbs is set to infinity. Would you use low ratios in different situations or have you generally found high ratios to work better for this? Thank you, David!
High ratios works better for me for this task with that compressor in that algo, so very specific. Because the way it reacts is very predictable and let me play with the threshold to set the amount of compression I need when I copy it to other tracks.
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CLA said the same about mixing the reverbs, delays etc. with each other. More often than not, I find it takes away from the clarity. Maybe that's due to my taste, maybe it's due to the genres (I don't usually drown vocals in reverb). It's not that I send too much, it's not that I'm forgetting to duck it, it's not that I'm forgetting to filter what's coming in/out. Guess I'll have to try it again until I come across a mix, that needs it.
Damn that’s similar to what I concluded. Pronunciation is important. Video shoots is second so my hat off to those that provided an album cover alone. The unique Canadian stuff is massively engineered. Brutal but no identity. I think 2020 productions show the best elements in metal the recording engineers and the drummers
David: We're gonna go from this... *proceeds to play perfectly recorded vocals with zero pitch problems* Us mere mortals: I can do that with my Chinese knock-off mic and my terrible singer on a bad day, fo sho! Car test: NO, YOU CAN'T!!!
One Question : Putting Reverb and/or Delay in a track push back the Vocals in the mix . So if you want to put a lot of effects in the vocals ( and want to have this in front of the mix) , you should push the others instruments back in the mix (too) and that is my problem. Because by doing that , suddenly your beat ( and drums) seem detached to the whole mix ( vocals + instruments) ... And here you go , you try to put reverb on percs & some drums and even sometimes the kick ( hipass the reverb) . But by doing that , your mix sounds lifeless , no more energy ...
I'm a noob myself and someone else can surely give you a better response, but here's my initial thoughts: That CAN happen if you overdo it, but if you're using sends, you're not really pushing anything back; the delays -- and to a lesser extent, the reverbs -- can be thought of almost as a separate instrument of their own (because unless you're putting your reverb plugins right on the vocal tracks, they pretty much are separate tracks), which add depth and dimension to the main track... They're basically filling up what would otherwise be empty space, almost like adding a pad instrument in the background, which the lead vocal still rides on top of. In the case of drums, you could maybe just double it up with some parallel compression to bring everything back up front.
@@mixbustv Yes i know , and thank you for this useful video . I was just trying to know , what to do , if you want your vocal "in front" of the mix , but at the same time , have some reverbs with delays (in a gentle way) without pushing it back . even if we use auxilaries , using reverbs and delays trick your brain , and you have the feeling that the voice is going back (deeply) on the mix . That's strange since with the send , you give some "wet effect" to the dry signal , i don't know how to do . Also , cutting the Hi (or doing a high shelf by reducing the highs) in a reverb , make the vocal going even back in the mix .... If we don't eq the highs , the vocals seems more upfront the listener , but clean "less" .
that's a beautiful video..you teach us nice things. My biggest problem is how to mix a bass for metal...I don't understand anything how I should make the sound of my bass. If you find it interesting please show us. I use Parallax from Neural but I can't understand how I should make the bass sound....!!!!!!!
You can split the bass into a few tracks. Pull what you want from each then buss them together. There's vids on TH-cam. I usually do like a di then parallax then like a low/ mid fuzz. pretty heavy compression on the buss or just the lows depending on the performance or what your going for. I'm by no means a pro but I get some gnarly bass tones. Try it out for yourself. You want the lows to be solid and the mids/ highs to grind and jangle a bit.🤘
I want to make a song that is really heartfelt and passionate about pteranadons and dromaeosaurs and hire David to mix it just to see if I can weird him out and make him say "You sure you want a love song to dinosaurs?"
Everything sounds Pro Level great. Don't know about the reverb though. Have to listen to it on bigger speakers. Check out Liquidsonics Reverbs. I deleted everything else.
still battling to join and have access to mixing/mastering materials......wish there was another way like joining on a web page or something else.....not easy getting a join button on TH-cam....
"Pitch Monster .. if you don't have it, you might want to grab it, cause it's super cheap" What I'm thinking: Well, I guess if it's 10 Bucks, I can get it as a side-buy. Devious Machines: 93,03 € ffs David, when a plugin costs half it's usual price and I've been waiting for a sale for 1+ year ~150 Bucks still hurt a lot.. and there you go throwing 100 Buck plugins around like it's dirty underwear. Show some consideration for my poor feelings.
It's so easy for me to setup this type of vocal routing in Ableton. Protools is just a cluster fuk for me. Plus the GUI makes me feel like i'm working on a windows 98 computer. I just hate looking at protools lol.
@@mixbustv I get u... That's why I watch your vids, to learn about PT. I'm more of a producer than a mix engineer though. You definitely know your shit hands down. I need to quit playing a purchase a class so i can level up.
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REPEATER bit.ly/3ft5RvQ
PERFECT ROOM bit.ly/2SBShxh
NECTAR bit.ly/3c2D670
FUTZBOX bit.ly/3vBEcP0
Heads up, this says “Kraper Tape” which made me LOL, but I’m certain it wasn’t intended 😉 This mix is fire btw🔥🔥🔥
This is by far the most detailed and useful video I've seen on mixing vocals and backvocals. If you happen to have a video on vocal harmonies or how to produce backvocals, that would be killer! Keep up the amazing work!!
Yes, members only, there are full courses that cover that
@@mixbustv I will be joining soon! Just waiting for my subscription on another site to expire. I also hope to have more mixes finished by then to take fully advantage of your feedback.
Vocals..... are a lot of work. More than any other element of a modern mix I feel like vocals require the tightest editing and automating. I haven’t found any shortcuts to going through them piece by piece and cleaning up every nuance to make them sound professional. Vocals are what 95% of ears are going to be focused on 95% of the time. Love this channel and lots of great tips 🙏
Amazing stuff David!!! Thank You!!
The best video I've ever seen on YT so far concerning vocals. Thanks a lot David!
perfect timing for a video like this to pop up ty
I was about to comment how underrated this video is and then I realized it only came out a few hours ago 😂
Wauw, great in depth session, very useful and it's not just putting a vocal to a send with some delay or reverb, so much more to focus on, thx for the insight David, such tutorials are very helpful and as a member I can recommend joining the channel, because the tutorials for members are definitely the money worth it and the mixing consultations are thorough, a huge difference with other channels I was member from, they tell you only what's wrong and do not give alternatives or solutions, with David's evaluation you receive solutions. I take his comments next to my sessions and run through his suggestions and apply them on my production, with result. And at the end that positive vibe this generates, gives the energy to continue with new productions instead of quitting. Slogan: Mixbus TV keeps you on track ! :)
Promise me you are not going to make this video private. I need to watch it again and again. This video could serve as a complete course. Thank you David.
You're soo right about that. Value like this we want to ensure lives forever and always available to enjoy 💜
Grande David.. davvero complimenti... ti seguo da quando hai fatto il primo video insieme a Warren su produce like a pro, ma solo adesso ho capito che sei italiano... davvero grande e complimenti. Anche noi abbiamo i nostri campioni, grazie.
Amazing video, not just for the techniques but for the clarity in the explanation 👏
Awesome tricks! Thank you so much David
Awesome job, David!
Man, this video is a good example on how complex mixing can be. It’s inspiring not gonna lie. 🙏🏽
Awesome video man. I asked about a lot of this on Instagram.
Sick vid. So much great info. Thanks for everything you do.🔥🤘
Great stuff as usual man!👏🏾👏🏾🔥💪🏾
I love the Repeater!
Thanks again for the pro knowledge
Vocals, vocals, vocals!
I've been loving some soundtoys. Especially Tremolator.
killer plugins, still
Bestest for vocals 🔥
A great lesson in professional production! Well done! Thanks for sharing, it's really appreciated! ;-)
The Professor is teaching us!!!
Very Good Video! Thank you, George Amodei
The track sounds so dope! 😮
I notice the ratio on the sidechain compressors for delays and reverbs is set to infinity. Would you use low ratios in different situations or have you generally found high ratios to work better for this? Thank you, David!
High ratios works better for me for this task with that compressor in that algo, so very specific. Because the way it reacts is very predictable and let me play with the threshold to set the amount of compression I need when I copy it to other tracks.
There is....some FRICKIN good stuff in here
make a review on antress black dragon modern eq A clone of Pulteq eq adds Analoge warmth ads good air and transparent but adds a good color which you want .. adds harmonic destrotion please do make a video a review on it.
That's Phucking Sick dude.
CLA said the same about mixing the reverbs, delays etc. with each other. More often than not, I find it takes away from the clarity. Maybe that's due to my taste, maybe it's due to the genres (I don't usually drown vocals in reverb). It's not that I send too much, it's not that I'm forgetting to duck it, it's not that I'm forgetting to filter what's coming in/out. Guess I'll have to try it again until I come across a mix, that needs it.
Best video 🔥🔥
Damn that’s similar to what I concluded. Pronunciation is important. Video shoots is second so my hat off to those that provided an album cover alone. The unique Canadian stuff is massively engineered. Brutal but no identity. I think 2020 productions show the best elements in metal the recording engineers and the drummers
Oooohhhh Yes David!!!! More videos like this, i'm trying To recover My sanity now!!! jajaja
my dual chip CPU gonna explode david
David: We're gonna go from this... *proceeds to play perfectly recorded vocals with zero pitch problems*
Us mere mortals: I can do that with my Chinese knock-off mic and my terrible singer on a bad day, fo sho!
Car test: NO, YOU CAN'T!!!
😄
Yeah bro..so cul...appreciate
Useful! :D
One Question : Putting Reverb and/or Delay in a track push back the Vocals in the mix . So if you want to put a lot of effects in the vocals ( and want to have this in front of the mix) , you should push the others instruments back in the mix (too) and that is my problem. Because by doing that , suddenly your beat ( and drums) seem detached to the whole mix ( vocals + instruments) ...
And here you go , you try to put reverb on percs & some drums and even sometimes the kick ( hipass the reverb) .
But by doing that , your mix sounds lifeless , no more energy ...
I'm a noob myself and someone else can surely give you a better response, but here's my initial thoughts: That CAN happen if you overdo it, but if you're using sends, you're not really pushing anything back; the delays -- and to a lesser extent, the reverbs -- can be thought of almost as a separate instrument of their own (because unless you're putting your reverb plugins right on the vocal tracks, they pretty much are separate tracks), which add depth and dimension to the main track... They're basically filling up what would otherwise be empty space, almost like adding a pad instrument in the background, which the lead vocal still rides on top of. In the case of drums, you could maybe just double it up with some parallel compression to bring everything back up front.
Mastering the use of verbs and delays is the absolute holy grail of mixing, so, not easy.
@@HyperNova137 THANK YOU !
@@mixbustv Yes i know , and thank you for this useful video . I was just trying to know , what to do , if you want your vocal "in front" of the mix , but at the same time , have some reverbs with delays (in a gentle way) without pushing it back . even if we use auxilaries , using reverbs and delays trick your brain , and you have the feeling that the voice is going back (deeply) on the mix . That's strange since with the send , you give some "wet effect" to the dry signal , i don't know how to do . Also , cutting the Hi (or doing a high shelf by reducing the highs) in a reverb , make the vocal going even back in the mix .... If we don't eq the highs , the vocals seems more upfront the listener , but clean "less" .
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that's a beautiful video..you teach us nice things. My biggest problem is how to mix a bass for metal...I don't understand anything how I should make the sound of my bass. If you find it interesting please show us. I use Parallax from Neural but I can't understand how I should make the bass sound....!!!!!!!
You can split the bass into a few tracks. Pull what you want from each then buss them together. There's vids on TH-cam. I usually do like a di then parallax then like a low/ mid fuzz. pretty heavy compression on the buss or just the lows depending on the performance or what your going for. I'm by no means a pro but I get some gnarly bass tones. Try it out for yourself. You want the lows to be solid and the mids/ highs to grind and jangle a bit.🤘
Master🙏
Awesome 👌
I want to make a song that is really heartfelt and passionate about pteranadons and dromaeosaurs and hire David to mix it just to see if I can weird him out and make him say "You sure you want a love song to dinosaurs?"
My pet is a bearded dragon, you tell me when and where we're gonna make that Dino love song pop!
Everything sounds Pro Level great. Don't know about the reverb though. Have to listen to it on bigger speakers. Check out Liquidsonics Reverbs. I deleted everything else.
still battling to join and have access to mixing/mastering materials......wish there was another way like joining on a web page or something else.....not easy getting a join button on TH-cam....
have you tried this link? bit.ly/3kpzCgu
@@mixbustv yip...no join button available to join..
is the left and right the wrong way round? when you said left performance the vocal was on the right 🤣
100 vocal tracks? Definitely using track spacer. lol
no 100+ tracks overall, and track spacer won't do anything for it
Yes
Am I the only one who paid attention to the lyrics in the beginning
"Pitch Monster .. if you don't have it, you might want to grab it, cause it's super cheap"
What I'm thinking: Well, I guess if it's 10 Bucks, I can get it as a side-buy.
Devious Machines: 93,03 €
ffs David, when a plugin costs half it's usual price and I've been waiting for a sale for 1+ year ~150 Bucks still hurt a lot.. and there you go throwing 100 Buck plugins around like it's dirty underwear. Show some consideration for my poor feelings.
It's so easy for me to setup this type of vocal routing in Ableton. Protools is just a cluster fuk for me. Plus the GUI makes me feel like i'm working on a windows 98 computer. I just hate looking at protools lol.
PT is set like an analog console, doesn't really get more simple than that
@@mixbustv I get u... That's why I watch your vids, to learn about PT. I'm more of a producer than a mix engineer though. You definitely know your shit hands down. I need to quit playing a purchase a class so i can level up.
make a review on antress black dragon modern eq A clone of Pulteq eq adds Analoge warmth ads good air and transparent but adds a good color which you want .. adds harmonic destrotion please do make a video a review on it.