(Pre-LGR) Commodore VIC-20 Computer System Review
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- Is the Vic-20 worth purchasing? A review from the perspective of a cheap, casual collector of video games. A quick run-down of the history, pros and cons of the games and system and whether or not it's worth your time.
Precursor to my Lazy Game Reviews
I had a 64 once and for some reason my dad got rid of it when we moved. Later on, he bought us a Vic-20. Seriously. I went from a 64 to a Vic-20. It was traumatic.
A few years later he got a Commodore 128-D and we became a loving family once again.
LMAO, love it
Your dad probably saw the Vic-20 in the store and just figured the color of the case was the only difference.
Hahahaha mine was hooked to a black and white TV lol
Man I just read this and actually felt how crappy that must of been as a kid.
@@raidrfrk Buddy of mine had a TI-99/4A hooked up to a black and white TV
Nice review! The Vic-20 was my first computer and I still have it. I used to make copies of freinds Vic-20 and C=64 tapes with my stereo's dual cassette deck.
Deserves a look? The Vic-20 was the god damn Model T of the computer revolution. Period. End of story. You wouldn't have Linux, Android, or a thousand other software titles or hardware if it weren't for the millions of geeks who's first access to a hands on computer all the time was a Vic 20.
Yup the VIC-20 was actually affordable. My best friends parents bought him the VIC-20 just to see if he liked it. A year more or less later they bought him an Apple IIc. Ugh how I envied him. I eventually got the money to buy my own Apple the IIe.
I wouldn't give apple any credit there either... Apple was a single board computer with an S-100 price tag. Only morons bought it. A good configuration would have been a Heath H11A, or any S-100 with a dazzler card. It would run 5x faster, have a bigger instruction set, and better software. In the case of the H11A, it had a CISC architecture, and a high capacity 8" dual disk drive. It could do in one cycle what would take 10 cycles on other computers, and it was also 16 bit word addressable, and orthagonal . Ironically, it cost only a little more than an Apple...with the apple running an embedded controller as the CPU lol. Embarassing. The Vic 20 actually ran faster than an Apple II costing 5x as much due to it's more efficient floating point routines etc.
So true
"VolksComputer" I love germany :D
Yep. Everything for the people.
Better than the Fuck 20
@@jeffh8803 lol
Lol
Awesome, I never wanted one of these back in the day (but i sure loved my C64!), but I now strangely am interested in one. Being a member of the Fresno Commodore Users Group doesn't hurt, I guess...
I used to have a VIC 20 & 64 years ago, I have always liked the games and especially the sounds..I have
been doing alot of 8bit music and beats and thought
about getting some sound from a Vic 20.
I will keep you posted.
Thanks for the response.
We have the PET models up here in Canada, not the cmb.
These vintage system reviews are great! I hope to see more.
CBM but you were close
Thanks for the blast from the past! The VIC-20 was my first computer and helped cut my teeth in BASIC programming. Wow, 3.5K of RAM. Amazing anything meaningful could be written in such a limited space.
I love my Commodore Vic-20 too! Paid 30$ for it also.....initially it did not seem worth it......due to some problems with the RF modulator....and well having no game cartridges....my parents discouraged me from buying games for it because of the RF modulation problems...they thought it was junk.....still, I now have a composite cable from China for my Vic-20, it’s been perfect ever since....I paid 10$ for each of my Vic-20 games I believe.....two in a pack at a junk store, the other at a retro game/collectibles store....I love Omega Race! Played it tonight.....it’s great...
avenger was the first game i ever played as a kid back in 1981 on the VIC 20 from my uncle.from this day on i was into computer games.this virus really never left my body
Search for "Robotic Liberation by PWP (VIC-20)" if you want to hear an amazing chiptune for the vic. :)
Me and my mate used to spend hours typing out the lines of Basic copying from the computer magazines of the time to get a game but once finished and we pressed Run up would pop the first of many syntax errors to keep us busy for more hours all to chase a green dot around the screen with our amazing proton red dot.
I was previously unaware of the VIC-1001, pretty cool
saved up my paper route money for one of these when i was a kid!
I can't believe you've been doing reviews for 10 years.
There was a controller I miss that was 3rd party, the semi famous Wico ErgoStic with that that off creme color, and each little movement had a click. I think it had well over 10k micro switches though I never opened it up and counted them. The body had a soft rubberized coating. The stick was tiny, and black, the one button was very good as far as actuation time goes, or felt very responsive to me as a young teen. Though it worked with a Vic-20, I put it to great use on a C64. It even worked on the older 2600s. That was a good thing, because it eliminated the need to buy 3 joysticks a year to account for how fast I wore them out. That little white stick when the rubber falls off is all ouch and no joy, and it happened to my 2600 sticks quite frequently.
I love that Warez easter egg. I used warez-bb for the longest but now torrents serve well
OMG 20 characters per line o.O
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I owned a Vic-20 in about 1986 (Australia) Type LOAD and it was tape drive!
I got a VIC-20 in 1982 only because I could not afford $600 for a new C-64. I sure was shocked and bummed to see the huge text characters. I DID learn a lot from it though. I gave it to my niece when she was 5, say around 1985 or 86.
My first computer was a Vic20, I still have a soft spot for Vic20s. I was 6 and it was the start of a love affair. (*L* also seeing you as a grown man struggling with the cart makes me feels much better for having been a weak little girl who had to get my Dad to put in Pipes)
I like William Shatner a lot. But the Vic-20 seemed pretty much useless at the time. As a 14 year old I wanted a Mac 128k, but received a C-64. Best Computer Ever. Peek and Poke all day long. Thank you so much for your retro reviews!
My first computer was a Timex Sinclair 1000. Why? The price. I then bought a Vic-20. Why? The price. When I moved up to the Vic-20 it was a huge upgrade! Color! Sound! An actually great keyboard! It was enough to convince me to buy the C64 when it came out. I might not have layed out the money for a decent computer otherwise.
Right JC. the vic20 was a somewhat obscure PC to buy in the UK. 30 dollar's is a bargain mate!. You keep going on about c64, It's the spectrum 128k. great video.
I remember smashing my tape drive when I was a kid grrr. Thanks for keepin the machines alive :)
Great review, I love your humour!
When the keyboard on my C-64 started screwing up I took the keyboard out of the Vic and swapped them, it worked fine.
Thanks for the info, I forgot about the C16, I remember now, for some reason I thought it was based on the Vic 20, thanks for putting me right :-)
I have a VC-20 sitting right here, can have a lot of fun with these things :P
My father got me an Atari 65XE, and then he bough me a tape with games for a Commodore C64 computer. He could never understand why it wouldn't work. But I love my dad, he had good intentions, he just didn't know much about computers at that time...
I remeber my kids and I playing Pirate's Cove and The Count. We drew maps and the whole nine yards. Good times!
I find it cool, that you rated it out of 10. You should reintroduce it in your new videos!
7/10 here cos Shatner said! - great vid man..love it...
Awsome review i remember snapping finger nails trying to remove them damn cartridges ! and the troubles getting um in too
You sounded SOOOOO enthusiastic.
Enjoyed the review. I still play the ole VIC once in a while and it's still great fun. Just curious which system you like more? the V20 or C64
I got the first installment of the system all the cord a controller and also the tape player in the box for $7 at good will!
I had a c16 great computer
7:03 to 7:05 Reminded me of the "Bable" virus scene from the first Patlabor movie :B
Very nice video! Thanks a lot! I like when you guys come back to the old times.
I have had a C64 but I was a little kid back then. But I have some really nice memories from it :-) I was playing with the VICE emulator on Linux recently, it works great. Some stuff I tried to run worked perfect (music tracks - amazing!) some crashed (nostalgia!) some left a black screen after loading. That's amazing :) Thanks for recalling the old times!
one for the books: "I could do the shatner all day long, over and over" ;-)
Sadly, the TRS-80 Model I, Level II was my first computer. I should have purchased the Commodore 64. For what I paid for the TRS-80 I could have purchased 3 C64's and 3 CRT's. For about $300 additional I could have purchased 3 1541 floppy drives. Hindsight!
FYI the Vic doesn't support the luma/chroma cable for the 1702 monitor... Commodore introduced that on the 64.
Do the Shatner, LOL! My wife looked at me with a dumbfounded look when I started laughing like a madman at the end of your video:)
Cartridges were the way to go with the Vic 20 because it didn't have enough memory to load decent programs. The cartridges were like having extended memory so all the good games will be on cartridges. Games on tape or disks will be very simple and basic.
You could use RAM expanders...I have +16K myself, and that gets you to nearly 20K of RAM, which is way more than anyone could ever possibly need.
Great video. Flea market pick for me today :)
I got the Vic-20 at home, but the tape data set is different... not like in my c64.It's the first dataset to the Vic computers... Looks like a normal cassetteplayer from the 60's, but without a speaker :D
Recommended in April 2024.
The Shatner Maneuver… 🤣
At least I now have the pre-LGR take on which games I should try on my VIC-20!
Was looking for Vic-20....found retro-era LGR instead :).
got my first vic 20 today for free!!!
I have no idea why this video is resurfacing but I'm not complaining :)
Thanks, now I know why my German buddy did the Shatner on the VC-20. Are you really sure about the cause for renaming the VIC-20 or did you just guess/joke? (Actually I know a similar case but that one has nothing to do with computers though...)
When I was a kid my parents bought me a vic-20 and big book of video games in BASIC that could type into the machine by hand and after hours of typing a games code into the machine and fixing typos SYNTAX ERROR after you hit run you would have some ok games with graphics but no way to save the code no floppy drive nothing and if turn the machine it would all be gone, it wasn't worth the effort just to play one of those games.
There’s also an sd2iec device for the Vic 20
William Shatner was the only reason those VIC 20 ads worked. God bless that man.
Did any one else see him type 69 as his answer? I love him
I was merely responding to the "apparently" regarding the "vic" sounding like a vulgar german word, and how several German companies do not seem to note the same issue. I never said there weren't exceptions or that they were legitimate or should have been considered. I don't understand the hostility.
And by "a lot of English speaking world," you mean where British English is spoken, which is spurious at best. You seem to assume I'm American, I think. Or, perhaps, not British.
very good!
William Shatner advertisement FTW
Ooh. Gorf and.. Lunar Lander? Pretty sure those were the two games I owned for this thing.
I bought one of these while working my first programming job (on a Univac). I was amazed. I took it home to show my parents, and stuck in "Radar Rat Race". My mother was fascinated. She wouldn't let me take the Vic back home. She sat there for hours playing Radar Rat Race.
She reached a point where she could play from sunrise to bedtime and never lose.
Finally, after a few months, I was talking to her and she said she was getting bored with it, and if there were any other games for it... A new Atari had been released that week. The next day she made my father drove 80 miles to get it for her.
i imagine the dad was less than thrilled
Such a nice story! Your mum was an og gamer
That's a great story. One of my earliest memories from my childhood was of my mother playing River Raid and Enduro on the Atari. I remember as if it was yesterday.
Vic-20 made me a programmer. Seriously, it *made* me code because I didn't have a tape drive or any carts. If I wanted to play a game, I a) typed it in b) debugged it and finally c) played it. If I wanted to play it again tomorrow I had to start all over again. I could probably still type-out space invaders from memory.
Die, Master Monkey Wow. That's awesome. Nowadays I see moms impressed with their kids and seeing them as geniuses because they can open youtube on their iPhones or send a text, when today's stuff is more intuitive than ever. Back then it was a lot harder
HAHA, I always laugh at how parents think their kids are smart for putting their fingers on pictures. Perhaps they are trying to deny to themselves that the most advanced thing they do in the course of a day, was objectively designed for a toddler.
Die, Master Monkey That is impressive! I also saw one guy had modified a regular cassette recorder with a hex inverter on a piece of veroboard to make a homebrew datasette. I have the schematic in case I ever want to try it out for funzies. I was lucky enough to have a C=64 with a disk drive & datasette as my first computer, so I don't have any cool war stories especially from your perspective. I am picturing you coming home from school and typing in the game again from memory to play it lol. Incredible! My only wish is that I could have had more access to magazines for typing in games. I would have had so many more games that way.
I feel for you bro, been there done that.
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"You're not going to see Mario on here."
Well, unless you play Donkey Kong, which stars Mario... :)
Except Donkey Kong stars *Jumpman* ;)
Lazy Game Reviews That's just because Nintendo hadn't yet decided to make him their mascot. :)
+Lazy Game Reviews Slam dunk!
+Lazy Game Reviews hey are you going to review the macintosh portable just asking
Donkey Kong stars Jumpman
vic 20 was my first computer... began a lifelong computing career... now a professional programmer, 35 years later without college .. thanks Vic.
Holy crap
Awesome! :)
flgliderpilot those were the days though, you could learn such a lot 'toying' with these computers, learning basic and eventually getting some sort of machine code experience too.
I had a Vic 20 as my first also, then a Dragon, a ZX48k+, amiga 500, amiga 1200 then onto pc's. You can't forget your first though.
Shatner has lied to you
It was the first computer I remember using too.
William Freakin' Shatner! :-)
Watching vintage (by Internet standards) LGR reviewing vintage computing. Really interesting video!
I agree from 2024.
Since the VIC only had 5K of memory, which is about 2/3 of a page, I wrote my own word processor in BASIC that loaded and saved its way through your document on the Dataset. It was slow but it actually worked.
I always tell people about leveraging on the storage media as extra memory and cite this concept as a prime example... or reading out a string and instead of clumping it into an array and eating up memory...just drop it directly on the screen, or for comparisons, compare and drop the value and increment the loop. I want to do some really cool experiments with this with the pet since it can have 2 datasettes.
To emphasize, when they ask how can you use a computer with 5k for anything useful?
Actually, a "page" in computer terminology is 256 bytes. So 5K is actually 20 pages. (I'm just being pedantic. I know you were talking about pages of text. The fact that you were able to do that with the Datasette is impressive. It would've been much easier with the disk drive, of course.)
If you think 5K is a serious limit, you should try the original ZX80. It had a *whopping* 1K of memory, and your program had to share that with the screen memory. And yet, people figured out ways (using Z80 assembly language) to squeeze credible versions of games like Chess and Frogger into that limited space.
More like 3.5k. Got mine at Toy R Us in 1982 for $200. Learned BASIC on it and then the next year got an Apple ][e.
lost my shit when i saw you drop one controller then a bunch more then "and this"
st33n just...try stuff.
excellent video! thanks.
got myself a VIC-20 now and I'm pretty impressed ;-)
#8bitsRule
Any plans to LGR the TI-99/4A? I've seen one (in original box!) lurking on a shelf in your other videos. Amazingly, after TI dumped the 99, you were able to by one (as my parents did for me at the urging of my 4th grade teacher,) for $79.99 from a catalog mailorder house. (There were actually 2 big ones - Tenex and Triton.) Anyway, I had the TI, a couple of buddies had TRaSh-80s, and the coolest among us had a C-64. Ahh, the good old days!
I still have my (original, complete with all the stuff) Zork I-III games, on 5.25 for the 99/4A. Wish I'd have kept the rest of that great old clunker!
An early venture into 16-bit computing, but with a crappy keyboard.
6:26
what shall I do now?
Fart
Don't know how to "fart" something
Ah yes. We've all been there. Bored of playing these adventure type games, we'd resort to telling the computer to do various things to which it would always respond with not knowing how to do it. Spoilsports.
Ouch, right in the nostalgia. First computer I ever experienced.
BTW, we didn't buy a Vic because William Shatner said it was cool, we bought it because it was the only computer under $300 that had a real keyboard you could touch type on. Keyboards are taken for granted today, but back then having a real keyboard was a major innovation and made or broke your purchasing decision. So many 8 bit designs back then didn't realize how critical having a real keyboard was but Commodore did which is why they carried the day. The C= keyboard blew everything else out of the water. Hell, it even had graphics symbols and colors on it via a control function. That was the icing on an already gorgeous cake.
I'm curious, what did computers use for input back in the day instead of keyboards?
Dalek Swartz serial ports... rs-232... but if you wanted simple inputs, like simple switches... you could interface with the joysrick ports. I believe they had two.. 5 buttons per joysrltick... so 10 on off switch inputs... or two inputs for varable potentiometers.... (paddle input lines which just read voltage ranges)
This is an extremely late reply, but a lot of teh other computers had either a membrane keyboard or little rubber buttons as the keyboard. An example of a membrane keyboard was the original Atari 400 and the Sinclair ZX sported the cheap rubber buttons.
Ya, A lot of the computers available at the same time as the VIC-20 for around the same price had absolutely dismal keyboards. I think they only reason commodore didn't choose cheap membrane keys was the hard lesson they learned from the original commodore PET. You'll notice they never did another production model computer with poor quality keys. In fact, they had the best and most reliable keyboards! The Atari 400 was priced around the same ($324 vs $300) if you go back and look at magazine ads from the time. The commodore VIC-20 was just plain better, and you didn't have to buy a basic cartridge separately. It was simply built in. When you factor in that it had a much more reliable datasette drive, than the cassette recorder of the other brands, where you had to adjust the speed and tone with a screw driver(no joke)...and then pray that it worked. Whereas the VIC-20 can easily _still_ read tapes that are nearly 40 years old with no issues at all. It's no wonder this machine sold over 1 million units. By 1985 you could get one on clearance for under $100...In fact I have one in my collection with the receipt from K-Mart for $78!
@@spitfeueranna They generally had membrane or rubber keyed keyboards, which were both horrible to use.
Take the Sinclair systems for example. The ZX-81 had a membrane keyboard. The Spectrum had a rubber keyboard. Both were not good for programming, and useless for touch typing.
Nothing wrong with being a "Nerd", It's my way, my lifestyle, that fellow's just jealous lol
"unlike games, it has a keyboard" :) haha, that's sneaky.
The VIC-20 is actually still a great machine to teach programming in school or learn on it from zero exposure. All these Raspberry Pi initiatives and so on... to teach programming... just total fail. What these kids need is exposure to an old school VIC.
Nobody bought a VIC because of William Shatner, but because it had that gorgeous full keyboard, graphics character set with upper and lower case, and fucking... accessible... color... and rock bottom low price... Shatner did look good in the ads though... and legitimized it as GEEK/NERD stamp of approval.... when hardware geeks and amateur hackers... were rare as fuuuccckkk. One out of maybe 2000 people had a computer back when the VIC hit the JCPenny shelves... or much less.
If you got the Vic with the bland gold logo... you got one of the first machines...
Cartridges were rare... for both systems... just because they were so expensive. When a friend loaned you his cartridges it was like a whole new world / machine, fucking Christmas all over again.
Radar Ratrace, Omega Race, Space Invaders / Avengers, Galaxian, and Scott Adams Adventureland....
F*ckin preach it!!!! I have a vic with PET keys which is even earlier than that lol but im way overboard into commodores...I completely agree with you on schools. Simple, friendly, but actual computers without 50 layers of code candy coating what is actually making it work would go way further than ipads with icons that resemble something out of idiocracy during the "IQ test" where a guy was covering his answer while trying to match wooden blocks would do volumes to logical reasoning in our youth who...lets face it, are going to have to relearn life over the next 10-15 years currently. If they are even allowed to learn. I am not sure if the OS layer of our culture can survive machine language, metaphorically.
Don't forget Gorf... F*k off if you don't like Gorf. Text adventures are cool. I remember reading "trohs fo na exa" in nosfaratu and getting hooked on the riddles.
My dream is that these simpler computers are transcribed to an ASIC and put into a 15$ keyboard with a cheapo flash memory on the MLB. Let kids explore what they can make in the environment. No it wont be doom 15. Ask Carmack where he started... If you can't, he started with old ass games like wolfenstein for the c64. Wanted to make side scrollers and did. Stepped into the calculus of crazy cool effects. Catacomb had fisheye effects of bending stuff that shouldn't be...but it was revolutionary and moreover, fun.
My advice for a youngster is while you may not make a fortune learning like carmack, you can surpass him by absorbing what he as shown us, and building on that. He has set the bar quite high indeed! I grew up on carmack and remember how freakin' cool catacomb abyss was when it came out!!! Ya I played it again a few years back. Still cool. Catacomb had some "fisheye" but it was the first 3d scroller I had seen since the c64.
@@peterlamont647 OMG I played so much Gorf I totally forgot about that. There was like 4 different waves or soemthing then a big boss, then rinse and repeat harder or something like that. I owned that one. Radar Rat Race was another good one. Aventureland. Omega Race. Space Invaders. Those were about the only ones I ever got access to. Never did have any C=64 carts, but I had some Vic Carts. Wish I had had a fast load cart or expansion cart but never did. Now I got a whole pile of Commodore equipmetn I'll never touch again... Pets, Vics, 64's, 128's... stuff I rescued headed for the dump but had no time for and it's been collecting dust since... the 1990s?
@@choppergirl Ya Gorf is basically a bunch of mini games. You have the classic space invaders is the first level. Level 2 is the spiral with space invaders spewing out of it. Level 3 is like demon attack with dive bombing bad guys. Then level 4 is the one with the shield and the mother ship.
There was a new release a few years ago called Omega Fury by Robert Hurst. It is everything I wanted Omega Race to be and more. I grew up with the c64, my folks decided to skip the VIC. I found out about the proto c64 later on when I was 30. I then bought one, and bought 5 or 6 more...and then spent like $1000 on cartridges. The first few you get are cheap, but then you start getting more and more. I finally told myself NO MORE. You can get every game onto a tape from a tape image and it's the same game as the cart. On VIC most games are small enough that load times from tape aren't so bad.
You know what's funny about the C64. i hear so many people talk about how slow the disk drive was. I never noticed! I thought that's how fast disk drives ran. Never bothered me a bit. We never had any cool cartridges either like snapshot or icepic. We had 2 cartridges for the C64. Tank wars and Visible Solar System(which I don't even think was a game). Tank Wars cartridge is so rare, I have never ever seen another one. In fact, I opened it up a few years ago and found eproms inside! It wasn't even high production enough to warrant roms. Even more crazy, its on two 4k eproms? It's one of those misfit cartridges. It's beat to hell too in terms of the pins. We got so much use out of that game. Amazingly, even though they didn't bother taping over the chip windows, it still works almost 40 years hence! Never throw out your commodore stuff. Give it away or sell it if you must, but never through it away. lol. Too many people out there like me who don't even have a 128. I do have 3 pets though, and a totally trashed disk drive I someday hope to restore.
Right and why would you? The 64 was superior in every way, but the VIC20 is certainly one of the best start computers of the day. Hands down.
@SparcMan Same here, my cousin gave me his C64 as they upgraded to a Compaq DeskPro 386!
It's kind of weird seeing a video from TH-camr I watch all the time from 12 years ago.
Oh god, do I remember the VIC-20. I was like 7-8 years old when I had it. Bare bones, 3.5K of memory, no expanders, and a cassette drive. I spent lots of time typing out games/programs from Compute! magazines and books. Early computer geek, me!
That is oddly similar to my childhood... except I was 7 in 1994. We were a bit... late... in our family.
+Mochrie99 You spend 6+ hours typing in "Shutter Bug", you type Run, and get...................
SYNTAX ERROR
----------------------
It didn't tell you Which line of code, out of hundreds, or what the error was.
It could have been you typed a semicolon, instead of the needed colon, or a comma instead of a period. So you check line after line. Those were the days!
John Owens Oh yes. And if you just started out, you probably didn't follow the x10 convention (start each line with a multiple of ten instead of single digits), and if one line needed to be added, you had to rewrite the entire code from that line on.
Those were the days...
(for those who never programmed BASIC on early home PC's, you had to manually write the code line number before each line of code)
My first computer was a VIC that my grandpa had. I recently re-bought a VIC, and a 64 together on craigslist each with the boxes and a monochrome display for an Apple II all together and working for $50. just need some cartridges, a controller, and a Datasette and I'm ready for some pure awesome
If it wasn't for the VIC-20, the C64 and home computers wouldn't exist.
Someone else would have stepped up to make something similar, but we probably wouldn't be where we are today.
I just remembered something while watching this video: I think there was a VC-10 model announced in Germany, not sure if it was actually shipped, but I recall seeing it in a catalog as a kid. It was black with a membrane keyboard, just like the Atari 400 differed from the Atari 800. -- I got a VIC-20 (VC-20) during X-Mas 1982. It's still one of my most favorite 8-bit computers. Strangely, I still like it better than the C-64, but perhaps only b/c I programmed the s**t out of it! ;)
Heh, would be fun if the vic 10 had a 12 column screen. It was the best computer for money value of the era though, I love mine!
I just got one off eBay, hasn't come in yet, very excited. VIC-20, 4 Atari joysticks, 4 third party joysticks, 1541, a four switch Atari 2600, some cords, and an Atari "Game Center"(box that holds the Atari and some games), for $52 after shipping. All untested and possibly missing some cords. But overall i think that's a good haul for what I spent, here's hoping it all works!
Phaux Redtail Give us an update please. Was it worth it?
Missing the video cable for the VIC and power for the Atari, the person packed it like a doof so one item got broken, still usable but was annoying. Haven't had time/budget to get what I need sadly.
On my vic-20 I use to write programs from a magazine . I wrote the game crazy climber , That game was very cool game to play back then . Back in the day it was very common to find game programs in a magazine . I guess you can find the on programming magazine's . I loved my vic-20 , but I wanted to own the c64 back then it was 600 dollars .I also had the tape recorder for the programs . I love that the internet is around now and we have access to upgrade to the vic-20 and c64 .
I loved the Vic. The only complaint was it's limited memory. But if you had some cash you could buy memory expansion for it. It is a breeze to program and repair though.
I bought one of these at a flea market today for $10
I saw one on eBay for $330!
Have fun
I'll say it again. I love your current videos but there is something really nostalgic about your older stuff. You put so much personality and vibes to your earlier stuff.
One of the only YTers that kept or kinda tries to keep their og vibe is AVGN for some reason. Granted I know everyone changes with time and some people are ashamed of their earlier works sadly.
i used to write programs on mine and save them to cassette.. lol. BASIC ftw..
Who’s watching this in 2020 and loves the retro TH-cam production values
I really think there is a time for an update. been watching you for some time now, I think it's time to go re-retro again.
I cuss pretty good in German and I know the numbers, the important things.
me too!!!
I really do prefer these older videos of yours sometimes, and thank for making great big playlists of your videos so I don't have to! :)
The VIC-20 was my best friends first computer. It was awesome. Back in those days a freak'n calculator was cool, but the VIC-20 was just awesome. He later go the Apple IIc and it was super awesome. These two influences really got me hot on computers and lead up to me buying my own computer (age 13 or there abouts) the Apple IIe, with 128K RAM, Duo Disk Drives and a Sanyo Color monitor. It was the awesomest of them all. I've ranted about it in various other LGR comment sections so I'll spare you, but this computer right here started it ALL!
Way back in the foggy reaches of the 80s when I was a nerdy teenager (as opposed to a nerdy old fart) there were radiostations that would broadcast games in the middle of the night. I'ld stay up and record them on tape and then not being able to sleep because I wanted to play them right away. Dammit.
Yes. It was totally awesome.
FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART FART
I think that's pretty funny.
Well, you might be dedicated to fart.
Даниел Друмев Maybe. *farts*
meh. *sittin' on the toilet*
The vic20 is a must have in case you don’t have a C64.
No C16 or Plus/4? :(
Chroma and Luma? So in other words S-Video? Mhmmm Or I think just the idea but not the actual code and frequenzes are not the same, or at least another standard or some formal bullshit like I bet you can just connect it via s-video into anything that uses s-video and bum works. Like for some strange reasons Secam works on pal tvs fine and otherwise, only there as far as I know if you use PAL Video with a Secam TV you only see black and white.
Yes, its S-video with two connectors instead of one. You can get an adapter cable for a few bucks.
I'm hoping to win an auction on eBay for one of these. Specifically, a bland-logo orange-function VIC-20.
If I do win, i'm getting a Super Expander.