The World Record That Never Gets Talked About
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- The 200 meter record is in danger.
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RIP Flo-Jo. My mom ran with her in the 80s said she was super sweet super beautiful.
Lots of mention always about Flo Jo’s records. Does anyone remember that her coach was Bobby Kersee? He also coached Jackie Joyner Kersee who won the heptathlon by 400 points and set a world record in the same Olympics that still stands. Last year he coached Sydney McLaughlin who set the world record twice in the 400m hurdles? He also coached Gail Devers, Allyson Felix, Keni Harrison, Athing Mu and others.
Send this to the top. TRP we need coach coverage!(I don't run, I don't participate in track, but I WILL watch it.)
Thank you for saying it! FloJo had an amazing coach!
I remember Flo Jo’s team had learnt the record-breaking training method from Ben Johnson.
Come on! Such feats can only be achieved through drugs.
@@tamwinat what are you talking about? Charlie Francis coached Ben Johnson and Marion Jones as well as Tim Montgomery all of whom were sanctioned because of drugs as well as the Canadians that Francis coached. He coached Canada’s top sprinters. Francis admitted to providing steroids to Johnson and both Montgomery and Jones confessed. Bobby Kersee had no connection and is still coaching. None of his athletes have been disqualified. There was allegations by 2 athletes back in the 80s. Vic Conte named the coaches to whom he provided drugs which led to the downfall of Alberto Salazar and Trevor Graham. So far, Kersee has not had any other allegations.
If you look at how Flo Jo ran with the grace and long strides, these other girls don't run like that? Elaine is the closet with the stride, but Shelly and Shericka just don't have the mechanics to run faster than her.
Thank you. Can you please please pleas let these jamaicans know this.
Thank you thank you
Ambassador Ausar, your absolutely right! And her haters are still jealous! They can’t celebrate another Black woman, because she’s American. And they know precisely who they are, and they keeps up the disgusting rhetoric against Flo Jo!
Flojo inspired me l admire her running mechanics that's why l improved soon l will be the most relaxed athlete
Neither are they filled with testosterone and steroids
*I mean Sha'carri Richardson is the closest to the form. Though it's unstable at times.*
Flo Jo also ran a 48.10 slit in the 4x4, so her 400 meter strength was superior to Sherika. Flo Jo was a 200/400meter specialist before dropping down to the 100m.
A split from a drug fiend in the drugolympics and an open 400m PB from the modern age are two entirely different things.
Exactly
They have been trying to dethrone FloJo since forever, Not gonna happen . All the haters from the islands, swears that she was on drugs but! Look at her form and stride! She was just on another level of sprinting. Nobody looks graceful like FloJo while running. The only other that comes close as far as grace is concerned is , Elaine Thompson! and SháCarri Richardson is getting there. But if it was a Jamaican who ran those times there wouldn’t be any questions or doubts!
4x4 splits really? A flying start in a 4x4 can give you a faster split time obviously because the person isn’t in the blocks Flo Jo never started a 4x4 she’s always the second or 3rd leg sometimes anchor.
@@shamoriwall Flo Jo had good form and stride length yes… but don’t be a Hypocrite there’s many Americans who came out against Flo Jo why aren’t you calling them haters? There’s Flo Jo doubters world wide even in your own backyard yes Jamaicans have been saying Flo Jo was on PEDs but you also have Jamaica athletes like Shericka Jackson and Elaine who always defend Flo Jo shutting down interviewers from asking negative comments about Flo Jo but you only seen the bad comments because that’s what most black Americans do they only focus on the bad 😂 call your fellow Americans haters too!
10.49, 21.34 and 2:05.96 are times that have forever been burned into my brain
Mary T Meagher. Her 15-16 National Age Group record is older by 7 years. Still likely get a medal on the international stage. Such a legendary Mark and so is 3:40.08 from 2002.
@@parkerfleischman1852 yep, Thorpe’s 400 is definitely in that Flo Jo stratosphere. Also Janet’s 8:16 - but the fact I can’t remember the hundredths proves I don’t know it quite as well.
@@Ineddiblehulk there’s one more too from 09’ 20.91 still no one else has been under 21 since 2009
It's lame how many world class sprinters have been overshadowed by Flojo's bogus dirty times for the past 30 years.
If they're "bogus" Why are You complaining?
What's lame are those athletes
Flo Jo’s 100m WR just looks other worldly the way she was moving.
Looks like Bolt when he ran 9.59
drugs are a helluva drug my friend
FloJo, the Pharmaceutical Phlyer!
I wouldn’t be surprised if she was on the juice. She ran during the golden era of steroids and retired abruptly after the Olympics 🤷♀️.
@@jenuwinedisneyphiles4927 100%
God Bless You Flo Jo & Thanks for all of The Wonderful Memories. I have never seen a Superstar Woman or Man, who would applaud for their competitors when their names were called out by the announcers, especially when they were going to compete against her. That’s what kind of a Beautiful Sweet Inside & Out Woman FLo-Jo was. There’s a Song with The Lyrics “ Walk Around Heaven All Day”, I think that it’s Old Man River. but what I want to say is I bet you all of The Track Greats are running 🏃♀️ in Heaven around that Track that’s made of Gold with Flo-Jo leading the way, praising The LORD THY GOD. Amen
Amen.
Amen
I'd love to see Jackson break the 200m record. I have no idea whether it will actually happen. I think that if you can beat an athlete's second fastest time (in this case FloJo's 21.56), as Jackson has (21.45), their fastest time (FloJO's 21.34) is within reach. But excellence is not always sufficient; you need excellence and luck. FloJo had significant tailwinds for her fastest times. That's not guaranteed for Jackson. Additionally, not everyone can come back from a breakthrough season and have another breakthrough season. Jackson looks good so far, and I'm hoping).
I CALL BS. Sorry there that was legal times & legal wind.. & /or none.. .you Can't keep make more BS up... but that's how some people change the truth., your cry about it long enough and just change it because you want to
Elaine already dit it (current olympic record) before Shericka.
@@danle3181 but she couldn't follow up a breakthrough season with another breakthrough season. You can't just be good. You have to be lucky as well.
Shelly-Ann had a sub 10.6 in her last year if conditions were perfect at just the right time, but they never were. What if the -0.8 wind in Zurich had been a +1.8? Or the +.04 in Monaco? She only had a couple of races where the wind was over 1 m/s, and some of her best races were in negative winds. She was excellent, but she wasn't lucky w/regard to her PB.
Conversely, Elaine ran 10.61 into a headwind in the Olympics, and then had the good fortune to get a 1.7 tailwind in her next race. She ran 10.54, which is about what a wind speed calculator would predict.
Flo Jo also ran on much slower tracks.
There you go a detaining and fabricating history you people do anything possible to not give flowjo any credit really sad and pathetic
Flo Jo was juiced like the EastGermans and the Soviets. She retired in her best time when the doping rules changed and died "suddenly" later. Evelyn Ashford and Carl Lewis were the real champions those times.
So why are her records almost being touched? There's a possibility of them going down, which means those times are womanly possible. No one has to be forced to continue running just to remove doubts about her achievements. She'd achieved it all and wanted to do family - nothing wrong with that.
SOS>Different Decade...
@@denisitele Exactly!!!
FloJo died in 1998, 10 years after setting the World Records in the 100 and 200.
The original headline stated ‘Shericka Jackson just did something crazy’ well 50.92 seconds for 400m is a good start to the season but far from crazy though I hope she has a great season, thank you TRP for amending the headline.
50.92 isn’t crazy nor particularly impressive for an Elite Sprinter on the womans end. It’s very good tho. If she got like 49.92 then yea that would be crazy
@@megamindvs2514 true Steiner tan like 59.60 indoors she’s faster at 400. And younger.
Clickbait
Nobody as ever ran this fast in march outside 😅
@@megamindvs2514 it's not the time which is crazy you need to understand the context in which it was said. Were you listening the video or just watching it? Each season she runs faster than the previous and her 400m times played a significant part in that regard. Now this is her fastest 400m time in March of all her season openers in her career thus far.
So going by her season progressions in the 400m it is projected that if the trend continues she have a shot at the world record this season.
Imagine taking 0.27 seconds off the 100m WR in one go!! 😂😂 It would be a lot for the 400m 😂😂
Evelyn Ashford (the woman’s record that was broken by Flo Jo) is one of the greats of all time that I think was clean.
She’s on that Jamaican sauce. The good stuff.
@@GreyBeard_Fit I highly doubt it. They were teammates. It wasn't like she didn't race her in 1988 at the Olympics and take the Olympic record back for a moment with a 10.88. Her previous Olympic record was 10.97 from 84. We're talking anyone pre 50's might have been clean or should I say most likely was clean. After the 50's all bets were off. Everyone was in play.
@@GreyBeard_Fit Not that I'd ever take anything away from any of them. You still have to pay a price and sacrifice something for that greatness period.
Flojo was beautiful to steer at running. Her hair blowing, her stride. It looked as if she was skipping in a way.
She was, in fact, given the strength she had built up with devoted leg training by weights, she was tap-dancing down the runway - barely touching for long, but with maximum oomph in the thrust. It's a hell of a skill to master, truly amazing timing and cadence. But without the power stroke down into the earth, there will be no fast time.This is due to the braking effect that each step of the foot has on impact - each step has to explode off that surface.
Pity she cheated tho..
@@mickmcknight162you don’t know that . And she is still the fastest ever women to walk the planet whatever you say
she hacked the hummingbird vibration
@@mickmcknight162 never tested positive. However it is well documented that almost every elite sprinter is juicing or using a banned substance or technique. in 2024, you can't possibly believe that most elite athletes are c lean or that only a handful use. If you search on TH-cam you can find former OLympians confirming that 90% of their peers were juicing. Look up the Balco scandal and also swimmer Greg Hall Jr. has been speaking on this. There are more people speaking out on this but that is what I remember at the moment.
Flo Jo’s form was and still is unmatched.
Totally got that right.
@@ronniejohnson196 And whenever God wants her record to come down, he’ll let them be borne, in spite of her haters. Until then, all hail Queen FLorence Griffith Joyner!!
@@marjorjorietillman856 hail? Weird
Totally. God's Gift.
No woman will ever be able to beat Flo Jo’s record because it was done before the US started random drug testing though out the entire year in 1989. She was suspected of taking large amount of testosterone (high level detectability) at least 3-6 months prior to her races(negative drug tests in 1988 Olympics. Flo Jo 100m times improved by 0.47 seconds in one year….. obviously suspect. World class Sprinters(e.g. Evelyn Ashford)who beat Flo Jo in college, Pro races for years before SUDDENLY beaten by Flo Jo by 3-4 strides. For those people who are not sprinters … a Sprinter can not improve their sprint time dramatically in 100m race within 1 year without using performance enhancing drugs. SMH
Her hip power and leg stride are unlike any other female sprinter since. It's just poetry in motion with no artificial assistance needed...
Exactly!
HGH was injected into her veins.
Today is the 25th anniversary of FloJo's death. She is the only woman to hold 2 athletics world records for more than 35 years. There are people in our world who can do admirable things without any doping. Credit to FloJo. REST IN PEACE❤❤😢
I hope she does it... Idk tho, when we look at Flo Jo's graceful stride it appears like she's floating across the track with incredible stride length.
Sherika certainly has what it takes if she runs the perfect race, but I don't think I'll ever see a more graceful and powerful sprinting form then Flo Jo.
It would be awesome to see a 🇯🇲 get the WR tho... can't wait. 🔥🔥👍👍
Agree to what You said; Especially about Flo Jo's combination of grace, stride, power and speed. Yet; relaxation was key to the second 100 meters speed. In the final analysis: Records will be broken, but Flo Jo was a one of a kind Female Sprinter.
@@ronniejohnson196 Well said!!👏👏👏
@@willstuart4504 Let it be someone else, because they’ve been so nasty about Flo-Jo. All because she’s American, they won’t to let her rest in peace!! They don’t even have any respect for the dead, and that’s why the Bible says, JEALOUSY is crueler than the grave!! Because jealousy doesn’t even care if you’re dead, they steal hate you!
When at her best ElaineTH looks really nice going down the track too
@@jameiliajones4942 YES!! Elaine is also a gracefully powerful Sprinter. Totally agree.👍
Just saw someone on Instagram ask Shericka if she would do the 800m. Jackson basically said "F no" 🤣
Regardless of wind, or no wind, drugs or no drugs, you cannot deny, Flo Jo had the best form and mechanics of any female sprinter.
All legs, petite on top, and just completely relaxed while running. She truly was built ideally for running and is beautiful to watch in motion.
It's going to be hard to beat her. We will need another genetic lottery winner, similar to what Bolt is/was for men's sprinting.
No drugs or wind: she consistently won! USA 🇺🇸
BINGO!!!!
ABSOLUTELY 100%...☝🏾😎💯🔥
She wasn't running like that in 1984
@@ln9939 nor did Marita Koch, Heike Drescler, Marlise Gohr or Petra Felke does that make them any less guilty?
I can't help but wonder if Flo Jo was juicing just before/during her last season. Although she was never caught, she was in her late 20s and had been at the same level for years. All of a sudden, in her last season, she shows up with this new muscle mass, re-wrighting the record book. I will always question this.
Reasonable certainly
Has anybody had comparable improvement over one season that didn't juice?
Even Stevie Wonder could see that 🤣
She definitely was not juicing they was testing her to much she changed her diet and the way she was running
All I can say is Jackson is twice the size of Flo-Jo. You people need to understand what steroids do. If she was juicing so are Jackson and Richardson.
Why are we even pretending like there is a controversy with Flojo? She’s was heavily roiding like many others on the 80’s, as evidenced by her times, musculature and that she died early of a heart condition. I hope Jackson beats all her records so we can stop talking about Flojo. She should be held in the same regard as Ben Johnson and Marion Jones….banned cheaters.
Present your evidence to world athletics - they will ratify the records if your facts hold any water. Otherwise, you remain a SJ chatterbox that is louder than his brain
Why would I care what world athletics says? Everyone knows this to be true. The bigger question is why you'd be defending a known cheater, when all these other women work so hard and within the rules, only to be overshadowed by the records of FloJo that still stand in the books. You must be a relative or something.
SOS>Different Decade...
23 October, 1998 -Monaco - Coroners investigating the death of sprint legend Florence Griffith Joyner on September 21 have announced that she died of suffocation in her sleep after suffering an epileptic fit.
Flojo looks like she is floating, her glide is unmatched even watching men sprint. Looks unnatural
Flo Jo ran unparalleled times over a 10 week (2.5 month) period.
Neither before those 10 weeks nor after those 10 weeks did she evenly remotely approach those times again.
You don’t have to be Einstein…..
I totally agree!
^Yeah, no wonder she didn't reach it after because she retired. You make it sound like she ran a long time afterwards but simply couldnt reach her times.
She was a Silver medalist in the 1984 Olympics and ran under 22.00 in 1987. Back then they only trained for the big meets, there was very little money to be made outside of endorsement money for getting a Gold in the Olympics so for most people Flo Jo included track was a part time thing.
@@tool2158 she never ran under 22 for all her career and retired after a silver medal, than came back for 3 moths from nowhere and set 2 impossible records easing up in the last ten meters...with old spikes and old tracks(it means her times nowadays will be 10.3 and 21,2 easing up)...only a person thant don't follow athletics can belive she was not on testosterone durin her 4 sabbatical years before that '88 summer...
@@franzpappa395 I've actually been following athletics since the mid 90's, so for quite some time. I'm aware of her rapid improvements, but I simply cannot pass sentence on her just based on circumstantial evidence. I feel like it's a huge problem of our sport that every incredible achievement is sooner or later associated with drugs, it really hurts track and field. Back to Flojo, yes maybe based on everything we know the probability of her taking something is higher than not, but that's as far as I'm willing to go.
The record has stood because "raindeer milk" is now detectable. Same as the east european records from the 70's and early 80s
No one ever talks about the unusual performance increase of hers from 1986-88. Prior to ‘ii she hadn’t won anything. Then all of a sudden her physique changes drastically, she improves over a half second in the 100 and over a full second in the 200, all in less than a year. Then a sudden retirement. Come on Man!
The drug scandal that never gets talked about.
So juicy....
Mr. David said it! At the minimum 21.38 is reachable for Mrs. Jackson. Barring injury, after that she can produce a 21.33 or less.
I get the flawed argument comparison to bolt. But I jus think SJ technique is too weak to get that 200m record. My greatest disappointment may very well be ETH making her husband her coach. Cause when compared technique wise and with topend speed ETH imo is the closest to flo jo.
Shericka will break that 200 record this year. She’s taking her time and learning that event. I’ve noticed her become such a solid sprinter. The right day with the right wind and if she puts together the right race and relax it’s over. I think she can go sub 21.30 too
She's taking her time? She's on the wrong side of her prime but good news is somehow the women from Jamaica seem to get faster as they age, which is odd. She might break it but if she does Britt Wilson and/or Abby Steiner will surely break it soon after.
@@chuckdeuces911average American 🤡
@@chuckdeuces911 Good for them. Records should be broken.
@@chuckdeuces911 l don't see Wilson and definitely not Stiener breaking 21.4. They are some of my favorite athletes right now, butb there's a reason no one has touched the recors in nearly 30 years
@@chuckdeuces911 you can insinuate all that you want to which is that the Jamaican ladies have the best chemist in the world who helps them to not only run fast but also beat every test. But I have news for you our athletes are running from kindergarten and most of our activities consists of running outdoors hours per day.
Our diet consist of a lot of tubers and organic foods not like those GMO and junk foods in america so naturally we age more slower and have better longevity in track and field. You need to know our history in sprinting before you spew your hatred. Just watch the ride again this season you are going to be tired of hearing our 123 slogan. Keep hating sucker.
More sprinters should go all out in the prelims like Flo Jo. You cannot always make your body run your fastest in the final. Times are more important than winning the final.
If Flo Jo had competed in the decades of Professional T&F, with all the money available, she would've set the bar even higher. There's no question. People forget she and her husband were training for the '88 Olympics as a one shot deal. The WRs were an after thought along the way. She actually had to quit sprinting to take a regular job to make ends meet.
Given the resources of the last 20 years it's just a question of how fast her times would've been and how many records and top times would she have owned. She would literally be doing what Sydney Mclaughlin has been doing. She was the perfect specimen, still to this day.
Amen. Totally Got That Right!
Given the resources over the last 20 years she would have had to retire early anyway. The drugs would have been detected.
She would have been discovered for using drugs.
@@felixumukoro4119 Take that 35 Year old fake check to the bank and try to cash it
@@ronniejohnson196 Take your drugged record and get out of here you bomb droppers and war mongers.
Excellent video. I actually prefer watching the 200m and 400m over the 100m. It takes a stronger human being to dominate the longer sprints.
I like the 100 best, but the longer sprints have more opportunity for breaking records because there are more things that can be refined. The 100 is pretty tight.
@@jakemccoyhe 100 is more technical as well.
By the way, I do not believe anybody can say with a straight face that Niekerk (400m record holder) is a stronger human being than Usain Bolt. You gotta use a different description.
@@jakemccoy How about resilient?
@@jessegoodman9462 That might be a good word at the high school level. But at the pro level, most or all of the 100m sprinters are also world class 400m runners.
Dream on never gonna happen RIP Flo Jo Gods Runner
Lmoa yeh just like how Noah lyes will never touch usain bolt 200 either🤣🤣🇯🇲
It's possible with a perfect excusion and perfect climate.
Flo Jo was decades ahead of sprinting technique that they teach you early on. Before they were all about POWER and EXPLOSIVE motions. But she ran with smooth and relaxed form and decimated everyone. While some runners already figured out that running relaxed made them faster, coaches generally attributed it to a specific runner being unable to use explosiveness as opposed to it being the better way to run. Look at Evelyn Ashford, she ran on power mostly. She was incredibly fast as well but she wasn't nearly as fluid a runner. When you run with relaxed motions and a smooth stride, once you get up to your top speed it feels like your head is just floating above the ground as you really don't feel your feet hitting the ground at all, it's just an awesome feeling. The best part is that you can hold your top speed for longer than other runners who are running tight and stressed as they'll lose speed much faster and it'll look like you're still accelerating when the reality is that they are just slowing down much faster than you are.
Coaches already knew about the more relaxed motions conserving energy, but they just dismissed it as being irrelevant in the sprint events shorter than 800m. They treated it like it was for middle and long distance and not to be considered in short sprints. Yet the fastest people in sprint events have run relaxed and no one has really gotten close to either of them yet. Flo Jo's 100m record WILL be broken, Bolts likely will as well although much later...his 200m could fall in the next 5-10 years though.
Also I find it hilarious that people complain about her 10.49 like it's impossible and completely forget or never bothered to find out that she ran a 10.54 in a situation where the wind was never in question as the reading was very accurate. Now she MAY have been on peds, I've no idea, but she passed all her tests and was clearly faster than everyone she competed against much like Bolt was. He also passed all his tests and skeptics eventually just accepted that he was that much faster. Also Flo Jo has crazy long legs, especially for her height. Which plays a massive factor.
Pretty Much.
ABsolutely brilliant analysis (imho) 🙂
Thank you - much appreciated.
Love Flo, But there’s a Asteras next to that one for me! And her early death kinda makes it even more suspicious!
SOS>Different Decade.
It’s crazy how for a while since the l Usain Bolt days the Jamaican women have been dominating the sprints they went 123 in the 100m twice and have top 10 fastest 100m and 200m times
They have a medalist every yr since 1984 (except 88)
Swept in 1988, 2020.
2 medalist in 2000, ‘12, ‘16.
13 medals out of possible 18 since 2000.
They have dominated individual OLY racing more than men.
@@henrihelvetica5835 I think you meant to say swept in 2008 not 1988?
And they get little to no notoriety but always make the country proud.
The ladies always do well over the years but since the bolt effects their performances were overshadowed by his performances. Actually we went 122 in the 2008 Olympics and 123 in the Tokyo Olympics and Eugene Oregon world championship respectively. Check our history and if it weren't for those cheaters over the years we along with other women from 3rd world countries would have won more medals. The 1980s were the dirtiest era in track and field especially 1988/89 which is the years most of the unbreakable records were set both in track and field events.
The reason why most of those cheaters never got caught were bcuz of no out of competition testing which is when the steroids and other enhancers were administered to aid muscle recovery quickly which in turn aided in longer practice and weight lifting. Most of the athletes would stop taking it at least a week before competition or 4 days minimum. After out of competition testing was introduced many of those records setters retired while those who remained became a shadow of themselves including Flo Jo.
Not sure but I wish you included Flo Joe’s 400m relay split in the story, seems related
48.08
Everyone forgets about what Ben Johnson did back in the day when he ran 9.79 was unbelievable just cause of drugs this was the same year when Florence ran the wr everyone was doing drugs back then 😂
Exactly this record is just an example how drugs work. Mid 80's Eastern Germans and Russians were doping like crazy and some of their WR stand even now or stood for 30 years.
@@Mir_Man22 people are still doping.
@@trinidadrodriquez876 There was no out of competition testing back then. They could time there doping schedule better.
Tested for Drugs more than any female sprinter and was Always clean.
In the 80's the USA almost didn't check doping. So i'm not surprised
Jackson has about the same chance as a snowball in Hell of breaking 21.34.
😂😂😂😂
English is not my first language, so I have this question : Why do you call speed endurance "strength" ? Doesn't strength refers to the ability to apply force ? I don't understand.
Strength causes endurance so it can be used interchangeably here. Technically, it's about applying force when resources are low.
I believe Flojo had a low 48 second 4x400 split & not counting the likely wind aided 10.49, & the wind aided 10.54, her best 100m is 10.61. 10.71 is great & 50.92 is solid, but I think closer to 10.61 & high 48/low 49 was the condition Flojo was in when she ran 21.34. Though I also assume Jackson was in sub-50 form when she ran 21.45, but she isn't going to compete in 400s when she's peaking for both 100 & 200.
I personally don't think the 50.92 shows any indication the WR will be taken down. I think just the fact that she is the only other athlete under 21.50 & has done is in recent times is a big indicator that she might take it down. Had this 400m been a sub-50 or better yet mid-49 then I'd be excited.
Pretty Much.
Neither of Flo Jo's 2 fastest 100m times were wind aided. Believe it or not a country that can go to the moon and back could measure wind speed.
@@kenstewart5991you can see it clearly if you watch the 100m. Everything was whipping in the wind before and after the race. Which is why immediately the commentary team say its surely wind aided.
@shivahuggins1276 I can't believe people doubting Flo Jo now the Shreika is close. No American I know of ever doubted Bolts 2 runs in 2009 for the WR's. Not wind or drugs were ever claimed and that the end of it.
@kenstewart5991 Because Bolt has been breaking records since he was a teenager and dominated almost a decade after his WR. He wasn't some fly by night who ran fast out of nowhere for a few months, then ran into hiding to avoid the introduction of random drug tests. People have questioned her world records since day 1. The sudden and drastic change was obvious to whoever didn't have their head in the sand.
If my memory serves me correctly but didn't she die of an enlarged heart, I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions.
Despite all the technology and evolution in training, no1 can come close to this is just unbelievable
it's steroids.
God Is Good To Whomever God Pleases.
Good race.. she should however stick to the 200m because she will not beat Bol or Sidney Mclaughlin Levrone in the flat 400m if they chose to run the 400
People who weren't around when FloJo ran, don't realize that she was just an average sprinter... Until, out of
nowhere, she started dropping sick times. That does not happen, period! She had more juice than Tropicana.
SOS>Different Decade...
World 4th in 1983, Olympic silver in 1984 and world silver in 1987 wasn't "average" Burg, she was already high world class for years before 1988.
There is no female sprinter right now who is going to take down Flo Jos record...in the 100m nor 200m....period.
All the circumstantial evidence points to the fact that FloJo was juiced. These are the best times she ran in her last 3 years of competing :-
1986 100m -11.42, 200m- 23.51
1987 100m- 10.96, 200m- 21.96
1988 100m- 10.49, 200m- 21.34
In 1988 at the age of 28 FloJo suddenly ran 1/2 a second faster in both events than she'd ever ran before, and then................After the 1988 Olympics, Griffith Joyner retired from competitive track and field, just before the introduction of mandatory random drug testing in 1989. It is very strange that FloJo retired at the age of 28, when apparently she was sprinting at her peak, in normal circumstances you would have expected her to carry on whilst she was winning and competing at the very top.
@@ln9939 She retired apparently right at the top of her best times ever, who does that ? That's the time to cash in, to improve, unless you're worried you'll be found out - not BS just common sense.
you have to put that in there,if she stays healthy without any type of injuries,that will affect her running at top speed,maybe that might be a possibility of shericka jackson tying or breaking flo jo 200 hundred meters.
Shericka can actually run faster than 50.92. She didn't have anyone pushing her in that race, and she literally slowed down at the final 20m or so. Before anyone comes for me about making excuses, go watch the race BEFORE you come for me!
She was pushed by Stacy-Ann Williams up until the 300m mark where she pulled away from her. Though I do agree that she could've went even faster
Old article from theirishtimes: Boothe told the London Evening Standard: "I am astonished by the way Flo-Jo, a very good athlete in her own right, changed so incredibly from the slightly overweight, sluggish sprinter I was easily able to beat in training in California.
"She dramatically developed into sub-11 seconds form that Olympic summer. In 1987-88 I met a nurse who said she was working in a
California hospital in what we called the Valley. "The nurse insisted that Flo-Jo was coming to the hospital regularly to be given a five-part cocktail of drugs, including steroids and testosterone.
And more...
Prove anything You stated by taking it to the Proper Authorities or Quit making Unproven Accusations.
@@ronniejohnson196 it's from an old Irish Times article mate. You can either read it or not. I dgaf.
@@masterbeernuts9344 When You said "old" You were right because I read that along with many other similar unfounded Accusations several Years ago>IOW< Same O Same O>No Facts or Proof. Nice try but No Change as of June 14, 2023; Flo Jo's World Records For 100 meters and 200 meters Remain Valid! Peace...
Hey Dope, these records be dope... bc it be a dope thang, Sleepy, Dopey, Doc.
To go unchallenged is a bit of an overstatement.
The 10.49 was wind aided, you already made a video about this, please refere to this record with major asterisks, or at least mention her legal 10.61, which stood for 33 years and was broken by Elaine Thompson
Na the record stands. No proof or it would be changed. Was the wind just pushing in her lane?
It's the record... Are you a child? No? Well, it's time to face reality. And that is. Her name will FOREVER be in the books for running 10.49 in 1988. If you can't accept reality... Go further to the left and live in your blissful ignorance.
@@ttexastt No, it was also blowing in the lanes of 5 of the other 6 women in that race who ran a PB and never again touched that time, in a semi final.
@@elijahkeller3409 Even worse, in a quarter final, and almost the same thing happened in the other quarter final. In total, 12 out of 14 athletes hit PB (one of those who didn't was the previous world record holder) with a 0.0 wind reading, while the triple jump just besides it was recording illegal wind, and wind signals could be seen everywhere
ALL GENERATIONS GET FASTER) NO MATTER WHAT YOU TAKE) WE LIVE ON A PLANET THAT HAVE 7.B PEOPLE) WE ARE MEANT TO DO GREAT THINGS)3/30/23/.
I think these records will fall definitely with more women from both biological and non biological females. This will go down soon.🎉
Maybe Bolt will make a comeback as a woman.
i recall watching her live, and thinking hmmm, can't be clean with that musculature
Liar!
Had Bolt trained more for the 200m, after his 100m WR, he could have easily done sub 19 in 200m. When he did 19.19, he slowed down a lot in the last 20m and later confessed that his training had not been the best in the 200m that year and that he was already tired before that race. So, agreed, better technique and training in the 200m would have produced a sub 19.
No, when he set the WR in the 200m the first time he really had to push. His 19.19 was the same. He gave it his all for sure. Sub 19 is insane and probably a decade or maybe 2 away. He slowed down in some of his first record setting 100s but not the 200s. Those records are too top end. He definitely trained for those events. He can say or you can think you heard him say something different but it's not true. No way.
Bolt ran 4 rounds of 100m and 3 rounds of 200m before the 200m final. The last few world chanpionships , we only have a heat , semifinal and a final. So if you take Lyles 19.31 for example, he only ran 2 200m races before his final. But Bolt ran 4 100m races and 3 200m races. That definitely takes its toll. He could have gone a tenth quicker had he run only 2 200m rounds before like Lyles
FloJo The “GOAT” Greatest Woman’s Sprinter of All Time and in History. She can only be caught but not surpassed. Her sprinting records and accomplishments are a testament of her sprinting achievements. She should be honored for this but the cloud of peds have stolen her honor. A person is innocent until proven guilty but that’s not true. She should be honored not just as the greatest woman sprinter but as one of the greatest athletes men or women.
Evidence that has Flo-Jo took performance enhancing drugs surfaced during, before, and after her untimely death!!! The proof and evidence is overwhelming and undeniable. Even American Olympic doctors admitted that Flo-Jo and Carl Lewis took red" during the 1988 Olympics. The world records of drug cheaters should be eliminated and erased from the record books!!!
Totally Got That Right!!!
There is no cloud of PED's around Flo Jo, only people who are jealous of her.
Totally Got That Right!!! Enough Said!!!
Jackson just did something "crazy" ... wait for it ... she ran 400m 1.5 seconds slower than her PB. Can we stop with the sensational headlines? It's a promising result, and definitely worth a video, but not everything has to be "crazy" "unreal" etc. The content of your videos is so good, but geez the headlines are a bit "crazy"
I agree. It sounds so click bait- ish that he does not even need. He could title it exactly what the video is about and still get the clicks but everything has to be crazy. So I am expecting something different from what I have already seen and its the same info I have seen from other videos.
A doper might break another dopers record….how exciting. Why don’t you do a video showcasing the impossible leaps in performance made by Jamaican sprinters which just coincidentally started happening in the same Olympic year of 2008? And have only been accomplished by select runners from two Jamaican coaches. While all the other runners in their camps, competing for other coaches or training outside Jamaica have been unable to achieve anything close to their miraculous leaps. Leaps which are the hallmarks of a sprinter that has started doping. When is that video coming? Or would that just be really bad for business?
Humm....
Flo-Jo had the ability to turn on the afterburners in the last 50 meters of the 200meter race unlike anyone else…including Jackson. In both the 100 & 200, Flo-Jo was able to pull away from the pack with nobody on her tail. I don’t see Jackson hitting the 21.34 mark in 2023. Yes, she is fast but it appears as though Jackson needs someone on her heels in order to muster up that last bit of juice she has left. Flo-Jo makes it look effortless while Jackson seems to be gritting her teeth as she crosses the line. I just don’t see it happening for Jackson. My bet is Jackson could lose it even with 21.39.
Just to clarify, FloJo is decelerating the least in the final 50m, not accelerating. It just looks like she is accelerating because the other runners are decelerating more than she is.
Pretty Much!
Plus Jackson is starting to show some wear and tare.
Shericka is working on her speed endurance so that she can go even faster over the 200m. She's gonna break the 200m world record this year.
Not gone happen!
Time Will Tell...
Sherika has an excellent chance to break Flo Jo’s 200 m world record
The 1:50.3 world record of Mission Brief also known as "the freak of nature" as a two year old filly trotter October 2nd 2014 at the Red Mile is the record the world should know about but rarely gets talked about. We all hear of Secretariat's records but this one will stand longer than any of Secretariat's.
I was a close follower of track prior to when Florence started competing. She was an average runner up to 1988. She came out of nowhere to improve her times by half a second in the 100! Who does that? If you looked at her body at that time she was so juiced it was ridiculous. She died of a heart attack young which is another symptom of drug use. I will never consider her a legit record holder because she was so dirty.
SOS>Different Decade...
How do you know you shot her up
It is becoming apparent that the shoes and tracks of today confer about the same advantage as the drugs of the 1980s. This is just a continuation of the improvement of equipment akin to the move from the metal to the fiberglass in the pole vault, and saw dust to foam rubber to airbags in the high jump. New training methods also make a difference but sudden changes of the sort we are seeing are merely the result of greater effort or a broader selection of athletic talent.
Flo Jo’s last 100 was blistering!! Holy shit
we gonna talk like we dont know
Everyone discounts Marita Koch's 400 record, because she was E. German - is there nothing suspect about Flo-Jo's times?
You Said It>"She was E. German>With a Evidence/Fact Proven and Exposed>State Sponsored PED Athletics Program.
Flo Jo was well ahead of the pack with her undetected juice program. Ask her training partner what changed.
yes I agree Jackson has the best shot because like FloJo she has elite times in the 100 to 400m. That range is rare (see Fred K on the mens side). People forget that FloJo was the 200m champ in college and then the 400m champ. Her times were erratic because she had to quit a few times to eat as turning pro in high school or college didnt exist back then. She had to work to eat & support her family a few times. Jackson has the same elite range but is bigger, taller, and stronger than FloJo but nobody to this day has perfected that perfect pacing, stride, and running relaxed at high speed as demanded by her legendary coach bobby K. I see SAFP and ETH altered their styles a few years back esp SAFP...to run more relaxed at high speed to hit better times as flow runners vs power. SAFP Another amazing runner I have loved watching over the years with the best start in the 100m of all time.. If you catch some youtube interviews with FloJo and Reggie jackson I think she talks about her struggles executing Bobby K's demands to run relaxed at high speed because it is counter to what people think...they want to run as hard as possible but it produces negative returns (See Matt Boiling in college - strains like hell in the 100/200 should move up to the 400m). Nobody has run as relaxed at high speed and hitting WR's with a smile on their face well before the line. Her running was zen like perfection. The pacing, the arms, the tight line... Jackson has all the edges of the modern ERA - modern training, the size, the strength, the shoes, the tracks, diet, money as a pro to train vs having to work..etc but on FloJo's side is the near perfect pacing, stride, running relaxed.. flowing across the track like magic. Will she break the record. I have no idea...they normally come when least expected in the sprints. I was watching the trials when FloJo broke the record and people were mainly focused on her sexy homemade outfits (one legged outfit and the lace in in the 200m), looks and why she went down to the 100m vs focusing on the 200m. Can you imagine a trials today with homemade non regulation outfits? lol It was also scandalous for the conservative 80's. All we can say is womens track is lit right now. Jackson is one of the top super stars and her 200m at worlds last year was insane. Will she break FloJo's record...hope so. Great for the sport but FloJo...that was a once in a life time situation and global cultural phenomena. The charisma ..the outfits.. mixing high fashion with track...a crazy new homemade outfit at each major race...the wild speed skater outfit and cap, shoes of mixed colors...the hair..the nails. She shined at the last cold War Olympics between east vs west in 1988. She was the first and the one and only FloJo who transformed womens track...just like Bolt...all charisma with the IT factor. FloJo is now more a mythical legend It was a different ERA ending with the last Cold War Olympics in 88. The last few years have been a new golden era for womens track loaded with amazing young talent hitting and breaking times not seen in decades or ever with Syd in the 400m hurdles. We are spoiled...Bol, Syd, Mu, the Jamaican sprint queens, KH the 800m UK runner, the even younger rising stars like Abby S, Britton Wilson and Anna Hall and that doesnt even cover the mile on up with more stars!. What we know is in this era there is a womens youth wave that is distributed all over the world - very young runners hitting insane times at very young ages, taking titles, wr's, and gold medals in their teens? and....Im here for it! What a great time to be a track fan! Bring on worlds already!
Great !!!!! Enough Said!!! Thank You Fellow Olde School Track Fan!!!
Great coverage
I am happy for Ackeem Blake for the win but sprinter is Obluque Seville.
I'd like to see you do a side by side of FloJo and Elaine in the 100m to see just how close Elaine was to 10.49 physically ❤
With the multitude of dirty athletes who have been caught, I'd guess there isn't a single world record on the books by a clean athlete.
The great Florence Griffth Joyner. Blessed memory.
Noooooo doubt my Idol Flojos World Record is in jeopardy by JAMAICA Shericka Jackson 💯🎉🎉🎉
28 is not the twilight. It actually is the peek age for sprinters. FloJo was at the perfect age, had the perfect form and amazing shape. The perfect storm. Her times weren't tainted!!! Stop it!
Thanks for mentioning my favourite - Carmelita Jeter.
Shairka did it. 21.40 😮 I think she is faster than the ghost.
Hey please do a video about Jamaican boys & girls champs 100m 2023!!!
A super analysis, but Jackson did split 50.18 at Tokyo 2021, so we knew she hadn't lost her strength. Also I don't think too much should be read into those 100m halves, some experts have discounted them. Have seen an alternative timing for Jackson in Eugene of 10.99 at 100m, 16.07 at 150m (quicker than Flo-Jo 16.10 in Seoul), therefore 10.46 second half. Lastly I'd like to mention that the fastest-ever timed 100m by a woman is by someone not mentioned here: 9.67 by Christine Arron at 4x100m in the 1998 European Championships.
I run track and when you go out too hard in the first 100 meter of a 200 meter you will pay for it in the last 100 meter.
Flo Jo is one of our heroes. To suggest it was not legit is disrespectful... look at the race, she was WAY ahead of all other runners. There was nothing wrong with the timing. I mean, if you take the average times of her competitors in that race, and extrapolate the distance ahead, it makes sense. She was flowing! I have great respect for her.
Total embarrassment that her records are allowed to stand.
It's a stain on USA track and field.
My old time favorite runner flo jo Rip🙏
Flo Jo was the best no other athlete male or female has the graceful and body action like her leave her alone let her rip
She now has 10.65 100m speed in her legs with more in the tank. You can see every race after that for the season was just in cruise mode. She is coming for them in Budapest and I already picked her for the double. Most definitely the world record is under threat in 200m
NO NEED IN HATING ON FLO JO! OUR FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN QUEEN AND ICON IS STILL THE GREATEST! R.I.P. QUEEN FLO JO! WE LOVE YOU! WE MISS YOU! GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN! #FBAALLDAY!
FloJO was on the juice. Hello
FloJo ran her first 100 at .69 seconds slower than her world record and finished with a 10.16 on her 21.34 but she also ran a 21.56 earlier in the day. She might have had to burn off a little lactic acid from the earlier race before her legs felt loose or held back a little. 10.49 plus 10.16 adds up to 20.65 which would have been her speed potential. What the hell could she have run if she had fresher legs and went balls out for the full 200 meters? As of Aug 25, 2023 Jackson has run a 21.41 so super close though I think Christina Mboma has an equal chance at beating FloJo's 21.34 except she has an Adam's Apple so that might disqualify her at some point.
This is the time...yes, this is the moment we've been waiting for...the years 2023 and 2024 when the women 100m and 200m record will fall. Between these two records, there are three ladies from Jamaica who are after them and when they meet again in championship races, these records might be history this very year by the G.O.A.T.s Shelly, Jacko (200) and Elaine...
Which is insane because they are all over 29 years old and should be going slower, not faster. Nothing has improved so much that people over 30 are getting faster especially women.
@@chuckdeuces911 What's impossible is going from a PB of over 11 seconds to 10.49 in just a year 😂
Umm how do you NOT mention Sha'? Yikes, stop the Cap.
@@ericdawson845 she doesn't really perform at champion
@@omarwiggan225 Really, when was that supposed to be? U20 World Record Holder at 100 meters, NCAA Champion and Record holder at 100 meters as a freshman.
Oh, wait you are totally wrong.
Stop the cap while you can. You can live in the past if you want, if so who has the world records in the 100 and 200? Therefore who is the GOAT?
Go ahead and release your tortured self. That would be FloJo.
But back to reality, now that it is May who is the fastest female sprinter in the world again? Go ahead, you can say it: "ShaCarri"
Sha’Carri look good. On the women’s side this outdoor season will be something special.
I believe she was taking something
Juice up to the max
At the risk of causing a huge firestorm here i wonder if anyone else who watches this channel remembers the full extent of why flo jo's records are so controversial? She was an 'also ran' in the 100 & 200 for many years before these record breaking seasons. Then all of a sudden she comes from nowhere & just started smashing every other woman in the field. Then cleans up in the olympics....and then retires! When here star status was at it's highest? Then she dies at age 38. Now let me be clear, she never failed any official test & the official narrative was she retired to concentrate on her family. However, her sudden meteoric rise from nowhere will forever raise questions in those of us who watch her whole career. It will sadly always remain questionable to me. Although it's worth noting shericka herself doesn;t question the record so perhaps this ought to be a mute point.
The word is moot, not mute. But all of your points about FloJo are valid. Just look at her physique - obviously weightlifter-like from steroids. Even her juiced up East German competitors remarked on it and how she had "jets on her feet". I'd love for S. Jackson - or anyone - to break Griffith-Juicer's records. I'll grant that FloJo had marvelous form and also was quite attractive and stylish too. That doesn't change the skepticism with which it is proper to view her records.
What you can't explain or understand would fill the universe; Therefore, quit trying.
SOS>Different Day...
It’s time to do a video on a SWAC athlete .. he opened up 45.60
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I find it hilarious and delusional of people to call steroids in terms of flo-jo yet say nothing about Shericka Jackson going from 3rd in the 400m to winning the 200 and contending in the 100 similar to flo-Jo’s rise. These women just are dedicated and focused. Why do they have to be doing drugs to just be great athletes? I think Flo-Jo did it without steroids black girl magic.
Got that right.
Because people have it in their minds that if they did drugs too they could run that fast.
SOMEBODY IS FAST AND SOMEBODY IS JUICEUP).