Paradox: So- Hansen: THIS IS STUPID THIS IS STUPID THIS IS STUPID Like bro it's kinda embarrassing when you accuse things of being stupid at least 3 times in one video without understanding them I see why it took you a whole month to understand the paranoia system
Yeah Hansen seemed a bit overly negative. I think criticism and ranting could probably be good for game industries as companies will be forced to deliver better products (they are incentivized to make as much money whilst doing the lowest amount of effort), but at the same time he doesn’t seem to understand how absolutely corrupt the Germany government was to a point that different sectors of the army would withhold information from each other. What happened in Germany is not the same thing as democrats and republicans fighting or someone trying to appease Biden.
In hindsight the insult was maybe unnecessary but you really need to stop accusing things of being stupid frame one like dude read it and think before making an accusation
The MIFO bills are meant to be something that increases REARMAMENT not civ build up. As you can tell from the name ECONOMY OF CONQUEST, the historical Germany path promotes constant conquest and simulates the economic stress of waging a world war by needing more resources to feed the war machine. The notes make that clear and just because this mechanic provides some diversity and depth to the game rather than do focus and get bonus (diversity to the economic and political side of the game) doesn't mean it's some trash over complicated mechanic. There is also a longer wait and build up economic path if you don't want to have to combat the economy of conquest.
Hansen is giving terrible takes. They seem to fundamentally misunderstand how the mechanic is supposed to work, how strong the bonuses you get from the MEFO bills actually are, and how you are supposed to play germany. Big L.
They misunderstand how changing fuhrers work, they misunderstand how state ownership works, like god damn why even have them in the video when all they do is give takes without even understanding how the bloody game works?
22:18 i hate this, he doesnt understant shit, he is just stupid. now i get why you took one month to understand the paranoia system and more than one year to understand italy systems (literally ultra easy, nkthing special about them)
27:43 and here you can see how he doesn't know jack shit about the game, country packs have been a part of the games for years, and yet he doesn't know what they are. after that, he just goes on rantling about things that just dont make sense. i can't even understand what he is talking about.
you guys are clueless, most of the feature are nice and you're are overhating and you're literally not understanding this new mechanics. I do agree that 3% consumer good per month it's a but too much and some things could be changed a bit, but all the new mechanics are neat. you're understanding of the economy system is 0%
@@k64444 even at 3% a month you get 2.77 years until it is at 100%, and you can quickly lower it to 2.5. Along with having other decisions to lower it. Also unlike what they said in the video due to not understanding that small changes can compound over time, that is still 6% less a year at 2.5 and gives you 3.3 years before hitting 100%, along with the other decisions to manage it
They also say random shit about how “oh I’ll just declare war on France day one to get rid of mefo bills wtf this is so stupid” 10 seconds after reading that it doesn’t go away just because you go to war anymore and it gets replaced with economy of conquest
@therealgaben5527 ok thanks, I only thought about it, never did any calculations to check. with decision and everything it should be a great new mechanic. I look forward to see how it impacts the gameplay.
As many have pointed out, this video is way too negative and not in a critical way. To complain about a mechanic before even reading what it does is stupid, and tbf John wasn't even that negative about it, it was more so Hansen. I clicked on the video to watch John, not Hansen, and it seemed to me like John barely said 10 minutes worth of content, let alone 32, because Hansen just complained. It's cool that you're collabing with other youtubers but I'm here to watch you and I hoped that the video was either 50/50 spilt of yapping or predominantly John yapping.
I think they're trying to make systems complicated to avoid subversion of historical accuracy, but it's at the cost of player agency. It makes sense if you want the game to be historically accurate, yes, but this is a sandbox game in a lot of ways too. The player's choices should be less limited, even if it has unintended consequences, because the whole point of the game is that the player has a say on the progression of events in the game. Basically, I like some of the new German ideas, but I dislike the limiting factors they've been adding to all of the new focus trees which are essentially just mini games to try and prevent new strategies.
@@therealgaben5527 I'm talking about stuff like the Italian (and eventually Austrian) spirits restricting gameplay features like changing unit composition. The economic system is actually a welcome change, but the gutting of the Political Advisors for Germany to be hidden in the bottom level of focuses as unlocks as it's more "historically accurate" is a waste. I also think that the entire balance of power mechanic suffers from this same issue, where the game's mechanics are subverted to railroad the player down a specific route instead of letting them discover a working strategy.
@@TheJohnParker117 better political branch monarchist is a pain to achive maybe a better cominist path tweek facist path more navy focus since we did win allot of naval battles some revenge to spain and france focus a focus called lion awakes
YES, I HATE THE GIMMICKS added to soviet union and italy, mostly soviets. i hope they dont make my favorite country unplayqable with something like that
@@therealgaben5527 yeah dude, imagine not repeating the same experience over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!!!
John Parker 117 a great friend and college of mine, I would like to formally apologize for the recent comment I made on your very well put together TH-cam video. It was unacceptable and unaccounted for. Please give me another chance to redeem myself after such horrible actions. Sincerely, Your best friend
Paradox: So-
Hansen: THIS IS STUPID THIS IS STUPID THIS IS STUPID
Like bro it's kinda embarrassing when you accuse things of being stupid at least 3 times in one video without understanding them I see why it took you a whole month to understand the paranoia system
Yeah Hansen seemed a bit overly negative. I think criticism and ranting could probably be good for game industries as companies will be forced to deliver better products (they are incentivized to make as much money whilst doing the lowest amount of effort), but at the same time he doesn’t seem to understand how absolutely corrupt the Germany government was to a point that different sectors of the army would withhold information from each other. What happened in Germany is not the same thing as democrats and republicans fighting or someone trying to appease Biden.
In hindsight the insult was maybe unnecessary but you really need to stop accusing things of being stupid frame one like dude read it and think before making an accusation
paranoia system is dogshit though
The MIFO bills are meant to be something that increases REARMAMENT not civ build up. As you can tell from the name ECONOMY OF CONQUEST, the historical Germany path promotes constant conquest and simulates the economic stress of waging a world war by needing more resources to feed the war machine. The notes make that clear and just because this mechanic provides some diversity and depth to the game rather than do focus and get bonus (diversity to the economic and political side of the game) doesn't mean it's some trash over complicated mechanic. There is also a longer wait and build up economic path if you don't want to have to combat the economy of conquest.
MEFO
@@kalionmyyugathanks 😅
Hansen is giving terrible takes. They seem to fundamentally misunderstand how the mechanic is supposed to work, how strong the bonuses you get from the MEFO bills actually are, and how you are supposed to play germany.
Big L.
They misunderstand how changing fuhrers work, they misunderstand how state ownership works, like god damn why even have them in the video when all they do is give takes without even understanding how the bloody game works?
That would have required reading.
22:18 i hate this, he doesnt understant shit, he is just stupid. now i get why you took one month to understand the paranoia system and more than one year to understand italy systems (literally ultra easy, nkthing special about them)
WHERE THE HELL IS HOLLOWBEING
Who the heck is this Hansen guy and why is he soo negative
Huh his profile explains it
27:43 and here you can see how he doesn't know jack shit about the game, country packs have been a part of the games for years, and yet he doesn't know what they are. after that, he just goes on rantling about things that just dont make sense. i can't even understand what he is talking about.
i asked john to give you the pin of shame, hopefully he does that
@@mylifewasalwaysalie just facts, sorry if the truth hurts. Hansen was just a duchebag to the developer
@@mylifewasalwaysalie sorry if the truth hurts. hansen was just being a duchebag to the developers
isnt that his style or smth
@@mylifewasalwaysalie i dont know who he is
does bro think "everything is stupid lmao" is a personality?
4:20 I love how this guy complains about stuff before even reading about it, or potential ways the system is balanced
Yeah he's an idiot. Should've got hollowbeing to come on
24:25 it also took you like a month to understand paranoia so it's understandable why you wouldn't notice
He’s complaining about nothing
you guys are clueless, most of the feature are nice and you're are overhating and you're literally not understanding this new mechanics. I do agree that 3% consumer good per month it's a but too much and some things could be changed a bit, but all the new mechanics are neat. you're understanding of the economy system is 0%
@@k64444 even at 3% a month you get 2.77 years until it is at 100%, and you can quickly lower it to 2.5. Along with having other decisions to lower it. Also unlike what they said in the video due to not understanding that small changes can compound over time, that is still 6% less a year at 2.5 and gives you 3.3 years before hitting 100%, along with the other decisions to manage it
They also say random shit about how “oh I’ll just declare war on France day one to get rid of mefo bills wtf this is so stupid” 10 seconds after reading that it doesn’t go away just because you go to war anymore and it gets replaced with economy of conquest
@therealgaben5527 ok thanks, I only thought about it, never did any calculations to check. with decision and everything it should be a great new mechanic. I look forward to see how it impacts the gameplay.
20:20 they stated that there is no civil war
bro is on the spectrum for making stupid points without even understanding them beforehand
24:27 the one time i founded RK Ukraine it pushed all my troops out and surrendered immediately giving the land back
Everybody seems to be very upset bc of Hansen
First john Parker video I couldn't watch, how sad. Can't wait for the new Hansen video "why John Parker 117 is a shill for Paradox"
12:21 what’s worse is that Paradox nerfed the amount of steel that Germany starts with in Arms against tyranny
8:08 civilian intel includes stuff like military factories...
As many have pointed out, this video is way too negative and not in a critical way. To complain about a mechanic before even reading what it does is stupid, and tbf John wasn't even that negative about it, it was more so Hansen. I clicked on the video to watch John, not Hansen, and it seemed to me like John barely said 10 minutes worth of content, let alone 32, because Hansen just complained. It's cool that you're collabing with other youtubers but I'm here to watch you and I hoped that the video was either 50/50 spilt of yapping or predominantly John yapping.
26:40 why would they make new ones when you can already get those nations as puppets?
You can create them midwar and they have far less autonomy, releasing them helps with the new War of Conquest mechanics
Too bad i've already sold my kidney to pay for pre-order
23:55 it infact did
next time please without hansen he is so negativ
There will hopefully be a different youtuber for every episode!
@@TheJohnParker117 ok nice
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I dont like paradox as a company, but, lord, these takes...
I think they're trying to make systems complicated to avoid subversion of historical accuracy, but it's at the cost of player agency.
It makes sense if you want the game to be historically accurate, yes, but this is a sandbox game in a lot of ways too.
The player's choices should be less limited, even if it has unintended consequences, because the whole point of the game is that the player has a say on the progression of events in the game.
Basically, I like some of the new German ideas, but I dislike the limiting factors they've been adding to all of the new focus trees which are essentially just mini games to try and prevent new strategies.
Mfw when you choose to use a unstable economic system and they don’t just remove the instability of it because “muh sandbox game”
@@therealgaben5527 I'm talking about stuff like the Italian (and eventually Austrian) spirits restricting gameplay features like changing unit composition. The economic system is actually a welcome change, but the gutting of the Political Advisors for Germany to be hidden in the bottom level of focuses as unlocks as it's more "historically accurate" is a waste. I also think that the entire balance of power mechanic suffers from this same issue, where the game's mechanics are subverted to railroad the player down a specific route instead of letting them discover a working strategy.
@@therealgaben5527 Still, I appreciate your comment. Have a good day, sir.
Gotta be honest i think we need more hansen
Any dev diary that doesn’t mention a Texan focus tree should worry us
John is collecting his gonners
wish they would update Netherlands
What else do you think they could add to it? I personally think the exile path is most fun
@@TheJohnParker117 better political branch monarchist is a pain to achive maybe a better cominist path tweek facist path more navy focus since we did win allot of naval battles some revenge to spain and france focus a focus called lion awakes
YES, I HATE THE GIMMICKS added to soviet union and italy, mostly soviets. i hope they dont make my favorite country unplayqable with something like that
yeah i think they are gonna ruin historical germany lol, glad thats not my country
@@rogerr.8507 how does paranoia make the Soviets unplayable??? It’s a very easy system to understand
no way this guy hates having unique features to countries
@@Mastersharkmapping erm, actually, every country should be EXACTLY the same and there should be ZERO uniqueness to the countries
@@therealgaben5527 yeah dude, imagine not repeating the same experience over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again!!!
I was first thinking about some PDF file exposing type shit. Sorry theres been too many of them this year.
first kristibbs and now hansen? jp117 moving up in this world
Hollowparker 11being
ngl i’m exited
My god why are yall so negative all the time im so tired of all the negativity on the internet rn
Gooooood girl
WHAT
John Parker 117 a great friend and college of mine, I would like to formally apologize for the recent comment I made on your very well put together TH-cam video. It was unacceptable and unaccounted for. Please give me another chance to redeem myself after such horrible actions.
Sincerely,
Your best friend
hansen is better then you