I love motorbikes. I have always hung shit on scooters but limited leg bend and an ageing body has forced a re-think. Now, after 28 motorbikes and countless Tmax reviews, there is a 2022 Tmax techmax in the garage. Never thought I'd say this, but I really like it! The Tmax is truly a revelation. I am more than happy with it and do not regret my decision for a minute.
Purchased a 2021 T Max after watching your last review on the 2021 model. Just preparing to go on Sunday to the Highlands of Scotland touring on it. I’ve ridden many different bikes over the years but this really puts a smile on my face. Low speed or higher it just does the job with comfort. Even my wife wants to tour around Europe next year on it so that’s saying something. Compared to some of the bigger new touring bikes 12k for this is a bargain. Great review Mark.
Just done 1000 miles so far in 3 days up in Scotland on the one I bought in March and it’s effortlessly coping with it all. Superb machine for touring on, amazing.
Unfortunately the bike thiefs love this scooter as well in London. This is my dream scooter but would be scared riding it in London 😮 very nice review as always
I’ve just bought this very bike from Crescent this afternoon. Traded up from an Xmax 400. Absolutely loved it on the test ride so a deal was done and I pick it up Thursday.
Thanks Mark excellent review once again, I have TMAX 560 techmax 20 reg.. I think you get what you pay for quality engineering and lots of important toys.. 22 reg seems fantastic! I love The Dash..Great video👍🏽💛 many thanks mate
Good review Mark as always. Surely they are wrong with the price. 12k is a lot more like 8k. Other than that excellent and informative review as ever Mark.
Good review Mark. £12k seems a lot for a scooter, I guess this is actually more motorcycle than conventional scooter in reality, it certainly comes with masses of kit!
Almost certain that I will be getting one of these for my next bike. I will be in the market in about 18 months time for a new bike and this is the top of my list at the moment. I have the honda forza 350 (2021) and it really is a fantastic bike, especially for the money. but there are some areas where the honda falls down some what. especially the suspension. But the storage is amazing on the honda, but there are some things missing, like cruise control, heated grips, (the screen just isnt quite as good as it should be) and no parking brake. All of those things are addressed on the t max, and more.... cant wait to ride one....
Thanks, Mark. Superb. Well done. My local dealer says he quickly sold the only one Yamaha sent him and that it’s unlikely he will get any more in this year.
Hi Mark i rode that same Scooter today the vibes through my feet were terrible, the ride was harsh i was back at the shop within half hour, i hated it. i was so glad to get back on my vibe free plush suspended 2018 tmax and it's faster, better wind protection, and it hasn't got a joystick right next to the indicator toggle.
Interesting to hear that Ive not ridden an older model so I have nothing to compare this new model too which felt smooth to me but I guess your model is very smooth:) Best wishes mark
@@Beeds5 haha lol so I did.... I was thinking about the one I rode last year ...so many bikes ..wish I could remember how that 2919 one felt :) Cheers mark
I’ve had one of these in the past. It was 100% best commuter. More than quick enough more comfortable than my sketchers more practical than anything on two wheels. The list goes on I currently ride a fazer 1000 which is fantastic but I’d swap it tomorrow for one of these things. If you haven’t ridden one you just don’t know.
I've had a 2010 (?) version for years. It doesn't look like they've changed much, but the 2022 does have some nice refinements. Of which the only one I'd actually love to have is that adjustable windscreen. I'm 5' 11" and the stock one on mine is too low to keep my eyes and ears out of the wind without ducking down. Not a big deal, but on longer rides at highway speeds, or in cool weather, I'd love to have a slightly taller windscreen. Adjustable would be even better. I think I bought mine slightly used back in 2015 for around $2500, which now seems like even more of a deal compared to the price of a new one at 5x the price, lol! I'd highly recommend any of them from 2009 up to the latest model, great scooters!
Great review as always Mark. Not sure if this version is actually a significant enough upgrade over my 2017 model - its fundamentally the same, just more bells & whistles. But a new one isn't really an option anyway as there are now NO Yamaha dealers within feasible reach of me. But when I see videos like yours and ride mine, you do get tempted!
Deposit paid, waiting for delivery 1st Sept to get the new reg plate. Will be my first scooter after years of riding large capacity bikes. Think I chose Wisley 😊 thanks for the review Mark top job mate.
Nice review. Glad I bought a Kymco AK550 instead. That TFT screen busy ness of info and the toggle/stick would really annoy me. Plus the colour options do not compare with my light blue AK. Power and handling very similar. More underseat storage on AK. Front of Ak isn't so angry insect like the Yammy is. Both auto bikes are comparable except AK550 is some $4500 cheaper in 2023 than the expensive T-Max in Australia.
Thanks for the very informative review. I'm currently on a 2019 Tmax530. A move up to the 560 is my next choice. All I have to do is find a 2022 model at the right price. The 2024 model is just north of 14 K GBP, that's bit rich for me. Great machine!
Great review Mark! Nice, but it is expensive. I rode a TMax for many years, loved the bike and the way it looked but it always hurt my coccyx so rides were limited to 30 mins or so. That seat hump was always in the wrong place for me. Sadly with our weather and rate of thefts, it is unlikely to be a viable car alternative in the UK and other cheaper scoots may be chosen by many. Negatives? As mentioned, it isn't that comfortable if you are taller due to the seat hump and is also short of power if you ride with a pillion. Why no A category licence full power version, say, 60ps? I now have a Forza 750. Miss the TMax but the Honda works better for me. Final point- why can't we get it in a light colour in the UK? Infuriating. Not everyone wants grey or dull petrol blue/black etc.
What a facelift from previous model i was expecting a crossplane crank but i guess yamaha just want to stick to their guns. Could actually compete with Kymco AK550. anyway superb review
Blimey,just realised it's taken me two days to watch this! I do really like the TMax, might have to wait for a used one though...crazy price! Thought mpg would be better. Nice route today too!
@@markpulling12 My Tracer friend got knocked off is bike on Saturday and injured his left knee. He'll be OK I'm sure, but I recommended this so he doesn't need to worry about gears!! (Not sure he was 100% convinced!!)
Good review Mark ,im considering something like this to replace my K1600 this year as i have turned 61 and want something simple and powerful to ride and still tour , whats your thoughts do you think i should consider this ? Many thanks and stay safe Cheers
Hi yes most definitely....it's the best maxi scooter out there ....smooth and quick ....I really enjoyed it Let me know if you test ride it Best wishes Mark
Hi Mark, as usual a really nice bike and informative review, thank you. I am wondering if you will soon be able to review the Moto Morini X-Cape 650? Keep up the brilliant reviews. Nigel
I'm not into scooters, but why is this so expensive? This is more expensive than a Ninja 1000, honda cb1000r, and africa twin, and ducati monster just to name a few.
I had a DCT NC 750 Honda for commuting...I found after a while it only got used for that...No street cred , not exciting enough for a Sunday blast.If I purchased a T max .it would get the same use as the NC Honda for the same reasons.
Well well, this has opened my eyes to a scooter., nothing like the old Honda melody I remember from my youth, tech coming our your ears... Amazing.. But oh the price 😳🤣🤣🤣 well I am from the North... 🤔 Mark who are the target market for these? Great review as always 🎉
Hi Martine it's a niche market on these ....they are more popular in Europe than here ...but amazing to ride ..best scooter imo ...but vfm probably something like an xmax 300 is best best wishes mark
Oh wow the more ive watching this video The more im liking this bike, especially with the new gadgets!!! Mmmmm Making me want a tmax more! My aprilia srv is 2012. Non abs/ traction control Thanks for the video
Hi tough choice but I'd go for the t max it just feels smoother ...more exciting like a motorbike... cruise control etc but the xadv is a close second Cheers mark
I want to trade my beloved Yamaha Stryker 1300cc beast sport cruiser in for this Yamaha beast ! I'm curious if the cover comes down when the key is off to cover the screen ?
Wondered if you were going to go over the differences other than just the screen and specs. Had hoped to get an idea of whether it's worth going for the older year and try to get a little cheaper priced option if it's actually the same riding experience.
Great review Mark, completely tailored to me as i’m the same height as you. I’m really considering selling my Honda ST1300 Pan for a new one of these. Many thanks.
Nice review, thank you. In fact, you've been the prime mover in me ordering one..! Ten days to go until collection, and I'm genuinely looking forward to it. If anyone reads this, maybe you could steer me towards an owners group..? Thanks again, Mark.
Lol.. I loved Mark's big pause after the price "So starting off with the price .. 12700 pounds ... biiig pause" .. I imagined a very calm "holy f.. that's a sh1tload of money". :D
seems very sensible to get a 2 year old T Max Mark, but here is the thing they have only introduced the fabulous TFT screen from the last eighteen months so there wont be any of those at reasonable Prices on the market ?
Thanks for a great video. How would this compare to the no longer produced Suzuki Burgman 650 - if you've ridden one of those? I used to have a 650 but stupidly sold it and really miss it now. This Yammy seems to offer a similar spec (other than not quite so much tech!). Seriously contemplating this one now! My only hesitation would be a) the price and b) the seat height and width. I was pretty much flat footed on my Burgman but don't think I would be on this - I think I really would be on tiptoes! I am also around 5ft 7 but not sure of my inside leg measurement!
Hi toria ...yes I had a burgman 650 for a day very impressive ...the t max has much better handling and is much nippier ...agree they are expensive new but are amazing to ride ...yes you will be on tip toes like me ...maybe try and get a mint year old one and save a couple of thousand best wishes mark
Hi think I'd get a good used nc750x with top box for long distance touring only because I prefer motorcycles round the bends when I'm touring;) Best wishes mark
Hi Pete first off the is the best scooter on the planet in terms of performance and riding enjoyment so the high price is kind of justified...I wouldn't buy new id probably go for one a couple of years old and save £££ Blue or grey would be fine Best wishes mark
Hi Mark, Pete here' I just bought the 2023 petrol green Tec max bike on Saturday! I have come from the 650 Burgman very similar in spec! It is a lovely bike and TFT screen is great! I have two issues with the bike! firstly im like you 5,7in tall 29 inch leg and with thick soled riding boots still struggle to get my feet on the ground which is very off putting at pull ups! second question the exhaust note is great but whilst riding i find the front engine noise quiet to loud and off putting would a different exhaust cure this i wonder? what are your thoughts yours pete!
Hi Pete yes most of the maxi scooters are very tall due to the wide seats they have and the the sound your probably hearing the induction noise which you probably can't get away from but these are truly amazing scooters Cheers mark
Thanks Mark, another corker! Gave up XMAX lately after many years, even though I'm over 6 foot and all legs, wearing protective trousers the seat eventually ruined the fun! Now on SH300 and all niggles evaporated!
No mention of electrical access plugs--I use electically heated jackets and ride even when its quite cold--I avoid ice of course but the roads may be dry even below freezing, so I like to have a heated jacket--I'm sure there must be a plug for that purpose, no?
Cheers for the review Mark, lovely machine but something on the nose looks off and i can't put my finger on it. Oddly enough I was sitting on one recently at a Yamaha dealer and the salesman said that these are almost impossible to hotwire as they now use much more robust technology. I guess London is the perfect place to find out!
Hi Mark, I know you reviewed the 2022 and 2021 Tmax models. I am about the same height as you. Have you found 2022 Tmax more comfortable or easy to access ground (thanks to a more narrow body)? Thank you very much for your kind reply. Very best, Karel
@@markpulling12 Hi Mark, thank you for your swift reply! Great reviews; thank you for the time and effort you put into editing videos. I wish you all the best in the year 2023 and many happy miles on the motorcycle. Very best, Karel
Excellent view. I'm stuck on what bike to go for this tmax 560!!! Or honda forza 750!! Had forza 300/350 before and a honda xadv Never had a yamaha tmax! Never had
@@markpulling12 Brilliant thanks Yes I was looking at that one more looks lovely and nippy. And love the technology in it. Yes watching your video now of it cheers dan
Cheers, so that's 3 metres to start then I assume the bike will continue to run away from the fob? This would be a concern if you wanted to take the scooter away with a campervan or tent. Would this then be a major security flaw or am I assuming the scooter engine would still continue to run if stolen?
@@accidentalactor9306 I'm pretty sure with all keyless bikes once they are started and you walk away they carry on running once you are out of range They won't just stop or cut out ...I guess it's the same situation if you just left a bike running with the key in it someone could just hop on it Cheers mark
@@accidentalactor9306 Hi there, I have a 2021 Yamaha Xmax with keyless ignition and there is a button on the wireless key fob to turn the it off. Thus the bike won't recognize the key even though you're near it. This has two purposes, 1) saves key fob battery, when the bike is gonna sit for long, 2) security, key won't unlock the bike unless you don't want it to. I firmly believe that the Tmax key fob would have the same feature.
Great review as ever Mark. Sat on one at the Bike show back in Feb and definitely wide seat. But great machine, i got the Forza 350 earlier this year, but only only thing I'd swap that for is one of these, if I had the extra £6k obviously 😉👍 One question though Sir, you never review Ducati bikes, any chance?
Hi Floyd I did the multistrada a few years ago but the problem for me is my nearest dealer is Winchester which is quite a way for me and I have lots of closer options Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 I took the plunge last week and traded in the Forza 350 for a new Tmax. Really enjoying it and a good step up in performance and comfort. Excellent deal and service by Crescent Yamaha in Bournemouth. Hope you on commission 🤣 And in case you don't know, Ducati Bournemouth opening in the Spring so hopefully we'll see you reviewing their bikes 👍
@@markpulling12 At least Yamaha saw fit to provide cruise control and an electric windscreen. 🙂 But,,, truth be told I'm a big DCT fan. Plus the XADV as you mentioned at "touring speed" is sublime.
I'd much rather have a Honda X-ADV 750 than this. I suppose the TMax appeals to scooter riders, whereas the 750 appeals to bike riders who quite like scooters. More storage on the TMax, but it's unattractive visually by comparison. Nice handlebars, mind. One more thing: I'd rather have Honda's DCT than the constant whine of CVT. The usual first-class review. There is no reason to consult anyone else.
Something is wrong with the Tmax you are riding. On your video the rev counter is not working. I suspect foul play on the part of Yamaha...if it was working viewers would freak out at how high this machine revs - even at low speeds. This causes the the engine to whine and sound more like some Chinese125cc scooter - not at all good. I've owned and ridden a Honda Integra 670cc, a Suzuki Burgman 650, a BMW C650 GT - all purchased new and each one ridden over 20 000km (I live in Australia where weekend rides can be over 500km). Now I have the latest Tmax Techmax with all the trimmings. I have to say that I am truly very disappointed. The ride is smooth and comfortable and the technology very good. But the damn thing revs far too high for my liking. There is some vibration through the handlebars - not sufficient to make long distance riding uncomfortable, but irritating enough to slightly blur those tiny rear view mirrors. The high revving makes the thing quite thirsty and it sounds utterly crap. I am unable to compare it to the the Honda Forza 750 or the XAdv 750, as none of these are available in Australia. The only rival the Tmax now has in Australia is the Kymco AK550, which has yet to be sold here in its upgraded, more high-tech version. I have test ridden the AK 550 and engine wise it is similar to the Tmax (perhaps not quite as zippy from a standing start) but it sounds much better - more torquey and less whiney. On the open road at 115 kph the Tmax revs at around 5000rpm and it is really loud from the rider's perspective. Of course if you select so called Sport mode then all that happens is the auto gears take a little longer to shift up making it even noisier and thirstier, but with no benefit in my estimation. When you take your hand off the throttle the machine slows down really quickly - the engine seems almost to be relieved that you are no longer strangling the life out of it! It will be interesting to see if these machines turn out to be reliable. My machine will be sold if and when one of the above-mentioned Hondas becomes available in Australia.
Hi Anthony I think the engine revs high when you have the throttle wide open..when you then back off say at 60 mph it settles down to a nice steady ,4 k rpm Crescent Yamaha are the benchmark dealer in the UK and they have just sold this exact bike to a customer he's over the moon with it ..thanks for your feedback anyway Best wishes mark
It is certainly a fine machine perhaps more geared to some serious touring rather than an urban commute - quite heavy at 220kg and a tad hungry on fuel - some may perceive it as expensive however it does have all the bells and whistles - unfortunately it would be a major target for the thief’s of Britain’s inner cities
Looks amazing but if I was shelling out 12k on a2 bikes, think if go for a cb500f and a CRF for fun in the dirt. Who spends 12k on scooters?? Good review as usual
Without any competition, they can price it however they want to. The next closest scooter would be the Kymco AK550 which isn't exactly close to the quality of the TMAX.
Definitely thats crazy £13000. Its only 46 bhp. I know i spent a fair bit on the aprilia srv 850 But its the fastest scooter in the world standard!!! Ive had mine mapped / dyno/ turned/ and a one off hand built twin exhaust. Just a shame aprilia/ gilera Stopped making them
I’ve had bikes all my life, stopped counting at 50. Have three bikes currently including a new TMax, it’s awesome and my first choice on most days, and my other two bikes have three litres capacity between them.
The same reason many don’t buy sports bikes or gold wings fir 20k when a 750 does the same thing on public roads - it’s hourses for courses ,some just want a simple a to b commuter that good on fuel , can link up a Mobile and keep you driers all a road legal speeds. Granted it is about 3 k to much but it’s a good little commuter,personally I chose the honda Fraser 750 dct Still get about 55 to a gallon at 70
2022 Super Tenere can achieve 55 mpg at 55 mph. Same price. More range. More versatile. More power. Adjustable suspension. Attached cases more storage. More fun. 145 top speed. Why buy a scooter trying to be a motorcycle?
I love motorbikes. I have always hung shit on scooters but limited leg bend and an ageing body has forced a re-think. Now, after 28 motorbikes and countless Tmax reviews, there is a 2022 Tmax techmax in the garage. Never thought I'd say this, but I really like it! The Tmax is truly a revelation. I am more than happy with it and do not regret my decision for a minute.
I know - i regret selling my 530. It was the most comfortable touring "bike" ever and on mountain passes it easily kept up with far faster bikes
Purchased a 2021 T Max after watching your last review on the 2021 model. Just preparing to go on Sunday to the Highlands of Scotland touring on it. I’ve ridden many different bikes over the years but this really puts a smile on my face. Low speed or higher it just does the job with comfort. Even my wife wants to tour around Europe next year on it so that’s saying something. Compared to some of the bigger new touring bikes 12k for this is a bargain. Great review Mark.
Thanks John yes these really are a superb ride
@@markpulling12 purchased a 2022 model after watching this video - test rode today and bought on the spot
@@kyberzyler good man !!!!
Just done 1000 miles so far in 3 days up in Scotland on the one I bought in March and it’s effortlessly coping with it all. Superb machine for touring on, amazing.
/@seew@zzz's as a c
Unfortunately the bike thiefs love this scooter as well in London. This is my dream scooter but would be scared riding it in London 😮 very nice review as always
Also insurance costs on these are crazy in London... Bike insurance in London is nearly x3 than anywhere else in England
Excellent review, thank you. I'm strongly contemplating getting the new 2024 TechMax.
I’ve just bought this very bike from Crescent this afternoon. Traded up from an Xmax 400. Absolutely loved it on the test ride so a deal was done and I pick it up Thursday.
Wow great choice Simon ... awesome machine 😁🙌
Fabulous machine, just come back from Barcelona where these are king of the road, very tempted
Thanks Mark excellent review once again, I have TMAX 560 techmax 20 reg.. I think you get what you pay for quality engineering and lots of important toys.. 22 reg seems fantastic! I love The Dash..Great video👍🏽💛 many thanks mate
Ok Stan many thanks love the tmax
Good review Mark as always. Surely they are wrong with the price.
12k is a lot more like 8k.
Other than that excellent and informative review as ever Mark.
Thanks Joe ...yes these have always been big 💰 money
exactly what I was thinking. I'd rather get the Tracer 7, which is cheaper. 🙃
@@123mirc you can get a tracer 9gt for less
Congratulations mark.
Your my 'go to' when I need to get a thorough review of any motorcycle .Ref. Yamaha t max.👏
Good review Mark. £12k seems a lot for a scooter, I guess this is actually more motorcycle than conventional scooter in reality, it certainly comes with masses of kit!
Almost certain that I will be getting one of these for my next bike. I will be in the market in about 18 months time for a new bike and this is the top of my list at the moment. I have the honda forza 350 (2021) and it really is a fantastic bike, especially for the money. but there are some areas where the honda falls down some what. especially the suspension. But the storage is amazing on the honda, but there are some things missing, like cruise control, heated grips, (the screen just isnt quite as good as it should be) and no parking brake. All of those things are addressed on the t max, and more.... cant wait to ride one....
Thanks, Mark. Superb. Well done. My local dealer says he quickly sold the only one Yamaha sent him and that it’s unlikely he will get any more in this year.
Great review Mark as always. Lovely scooter . Full luxury and in my view worth every penny - not cheap but perceived value is excellent.
Thanks David yes I'd have one for sure 🙂
Roll on a couple of years to 2023 and these things are edging £14000 - even more if you add on a topbox! Certainly not cheap but for me, extortionate.
Hi Mark i rode that same Scooter today the vibes through my feet were terrible, the ride was harsh i was back at the shop within half hour, i hated it.
i was so glad to get back on my vibe free plush suspended 2018 tmax and it's faster, better wind protection, and it hasn't got a joystick right next to the indicator toggle.
Interesting to hear that Ive not ridden an older model so I have nothing to compare this new model too which felt smooth to me but I guess your model is very smooth:)
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 you rode one in 2019 😉
@@Beeds5 haha lol so I did.... I was thinking about the one I rode last year ...so many bikes ..wish I could remember how that 2919 one felt :)
Cheers mark
I’ve had one of these in the past. It was 100% best commuter. More than quick enough more comfortable than my sketchers more practical than anything on two wheels. The list goes on I currently ride a fazer 1000 which is fantastic but I’d swap it tomorrow for one of these things. If you haven’t ridden one you just don’t know.
I've had a 2010 (?) version for years. It doesn't look like they've changed much, but the 2022 does have some nice refinements. Of which the only one I'd actually love to have is that adjustable windscreen. I'm 5' 11" and the stock one on mine is too low to keep my eyes and ears out of the wind without ducking down. Not a big deal, but on longer rides at highway speeds, or in cool weather, I'd love to have a slightly taller windscreen. Adjustable would be even better. I think I bought mine slightly used back in 2015 for around $2500, which now seems like even more of a deal compared to the price of a new one at 5x the price, lol! I'd highly recommend any of them from 2009 up to the latest model, great scooters!
Great review as always Mark. Not sure if this version is actually a significant enough upgrade over my 2017 model - its fundamentally the same, just more bells & whistles. But a new one isn't really an option anyway as there are now NO Yamaha dealers within feasible reach of me. But when I see videos like yours and ride mine, you do get tempted!
Thanks Tim ....yes I'd say stick with yours.... love the tmax !!
Best review I've seen in a while.
Deposit paid, waiting for delivery 1st Sept to get the new reg plate. Will be my first scooter after years of riding large capacity bikes.
Think I chose Wisley 😊 thanks for the review Mark top job mate.
Thanks great choice
Best regards mark
Lovely video Mark - great great bike. I also loved your camera - please let me know which one you have used for this video. Much appreciated
Hi many thanks
It's a GoPro hero 7
Cheers mark
Nice review. Glad I bought a Kymco AK550 instead. That TFT screen busy ness of info and the toggle/stick would really annoy me. Plus the colour options do not compare with my light blue AK. Power and handling very similar. More underseat storage on AK. Front of Ak isn't so angry insect like the Yammy is. Both auto bikes are comparable except AK550 is some $4500 cheaper in 2023 than the expensive T-Max in Australia.
Looking at a 550 myself in Oz. But worried a about kymco service. Any issues for you...
Lovely review as always. Im torn between Xadv and tmax 2022. Im the same height as you, what would you say, which one fit you better?
Hi I'd go for the t max ....bit more fun to ride aswell:)
Thanks for the very informative review. I'm currently on a 2019 Tmax530. A move up to the 560 is my next choice. All I have to do is find a 2022 model at the right price. The 2024 model is just north of 14 K GBP, that's bit rich for me. Great machine!
Thanks David ....yes definitely the best maxi scooter out there
Cheers mark
Great review Mark ,i'd love the new TFT screen, but i wont be swapping my 2018 DX Tmax just yet.
Scooters are Terrible - Change my mind.
Thanks Mark, you changed my mind.
Great review Mark!
Nice, but it is expensive. I rode a TMax for many years, loved the bike and the way it looked but it always hurt my coccyx so rides were limited to 30 mins or so. That seat hump was always in the wrong place for me.
Sadly with our weather and rate of thefts, it is unlikely to be a viable car alternative in the UK and other cheaper scoots may be chosen by many.
Negatives? As mentioned, it isn't that comfortable if you are taller due to the seat hump and is also short of power if you ride with a pillion. Why no A category licence full power version, say, 60ps? I now have a Forza 750. Miss the TMax but the Honda works better for me.
Final point- why can't we get it in a light colour in the UK? Infuriating. Not everyone wants grey or dull petrol blue/black etc.
Thanks Robert great comment 😊
What a facelift from previous model i was expecting a crossplane crank but i guess yamaha just want to stick to their guns. Could actually compete with Kymco AK550. anyway superb review
Many thanks I should be trying the new sym 508 soon :)
Got my one delivered yesterday. Traded my aprilia srv for it. Not rode it yet. Sods law its raining today 😑 and all week no fun in the rain
Blimey,just realised it's taken me two days to watch this! I do really like the TMax, might have to wait for a used one though...crazy price! Thought mpg would be better. Nice route today too!
Haha cheers Daniel....yes these are amazing
Haha cheers Daniel....yes these are amazing
@@markpulling12 My Tracer friend got knocked off is bike on Saturday and injured his left knee. He'll be OK I'm sure, but I recommended this so he doesn't need to worry about gears!! (Not sure he was 100% convinced!!)
Nice review, thanks mark👏👏
Nice one Mark, Another great review 🙂 Hope all is well with you and you have a good weekend 🙂
Thanks....yes weather is looking good 👍✅
Hi Mark given the choice if you was given a free scooter which would you choose the honda 750 forza or the tmax tech
Hi Bernard tough choice as they are both brilliant machines... but I'd go for the tmax just prefer the way it rides and feels cheers mark
Thank You Almighty God I will buy one for myself
Good review Mark ,im considering something like this to replace my K1600 this year as i have turned 61 and want something simple and powerful to ride and still tour , whats your thoughts do you think i should consider this ?
Many thanks and stay safe
Cheers
Hi yes most definitely....it's the best maxi scooter out there ....smooth and quick ....I really enjoyed it
Let me know if you test ride it
Best wishes Mark
Hi Mark, as usual a really nice bike and informative review, thank you.
I am wondering if you will soon be able to review the Moto Morini X-Cape 650?
Keep up the brilliant reviews.
Nigel
Hi Nigel I'll have a look if there is a dealer local to me cheers mark
I'm not into scooters, but why is this so expensive? This is more expensive than a Ninja 1000, honda cb1000r, and africa twin, and ducati monster just to name a few.
Because there are no direct competitors to Tmax
I had a DCT NC 750 Honda for commuting...I found after a while it only got used for that...No street cred , not exciting enough for a Sunday blast.If I purchased a T max .it would get the same use as the NC Honda for the same reasons.
Well well, this has opened my eyes to a scooter., nothing like the old Honda melody I remember from my youth, tech coming our your ears... Amazing.. But oh the price 😳🤣🤣🤣 well I am from the North... 🤔 Mark who are the target market for these? Great review as always 🎉
Hi Martine it's a niche market on these ....they are more popular in Europe than here ...but amazing to ride ..best scooter imo ...but vfm probably something like an xmax 300 is best best wishes mark
Nice bike and review but too expensive.
Thanks Steve 😁
I will be buying this machine in few weeks!
Oh wow the more ive watching this video
The more im liking this bike, especially with the new gadgets!!! Mmmmm
Making me want a tmax more!
My aprilia srv is 2012.
Non abs/ traction control
Thanks for the video
Many thanks my pleasure 😊
@@markpulling12
Just watching your honda xadv 2021 red colour.
Would you say this 2021 xadv better than the 2017 xadv
Just considered about the weather protection??
I’ve had dozens of M/C, Forza750 or Tmax ? , back to back video please !🎉
mark would you choose this or the xadv and why
Hi tough choice but I'd go for the t max it just feels smoother ...more exciting like a motorbike... cruise control etc but the xadv is a close second
Cheers mark
I want to trade my beloved Yamaha Stryker 1300cc beast sport cruiser in for this Yamaha beast ! I'm curious if the cover comes down when the key is off to cover the screen ?
Wondered if you were going to go over the differences other than just the screen and specs. Had hoped to get an idea of whether it's worth going for the older year and try to get a little cheaper priced option if it's actually the same riding experience.
Yes it's the same to ride so might be worth getting a good used one and save a small fortune
Best wishes mark
Thank you for the video. Made me decide to buy one soon.
Good choice!
Great review Mark, completely tailored to me as i’m the same height as you. I’m really considering selling my Honda ST1300 Pan for a new one of these. Many thanks.
Thanks Johnny these are fantastic scooters... pricey but worth it :)
Wow nearly £13k.
You can get a honda silverwing 600. 48 bhp and save thousands
The only thing missing.. the dash and lights by night.. will be impressing i figure.
The wing mirror are off a zip 50 !!!!😊
Nice review, thank you. In fact, you've been the prime mover in me ordering one..! Ten days to go until collection, and I'm genuinely looking forward to it. If anyone reads this, maybe you could steer me towards an owners group..? Thanks again, Mark.
Thanks yes these are amazing scooters...I'd love one cheers mark
Hi Mark, what bike do you prefer? The Yamaha TMAX or the Honda NC750x?
Hi they are both brilliant machines but totally different...I'd say equal
Cheers mark
Lol.. I loved Mark's big pause after the price "So starting off with the price .. 12700 pounds ... biiig pause" .. I imagined a very calm "holy f.. that's a sh1tload of money".
:D
Haha yes that's what I thought in my head 🤣 but can't really say on the vid cheers mark
Hi Mark, come on which one would you buy with your own money?I know you have ridden both, forza 750 or tmax 560 tech?
Hi Diane Yamaha for me
Just prefer the way it rides
Best wishes mark
I believe the sat nav requires you to pay a subscription.
seems very sensible to get a 2 year old T Max Mark, but here is the thing they have only introduced the fabulous TFT screen from the last eighteen months so there wont be any of those at reasonable Prices on the market ?
Ok that's a fair point...that tft is gorgeous....oh well new it is then Pete ...it's a stunning machine 😀
Cheers mark
Ordered mine in petrol grey today! 😊
Wow great choice 👍
Thanks for a great video.
How would this compare to the no longer produced Suzuki Burgman 650 - if you've ridden one of those? I used to have a 650 but stupidly sold it and really miss it now. This Yammy seems to offer a similar spec (other than not quite so much tech!). Seriously contemplating this one now! My only hesitation would be a) the price and b) the seat height and width. I was pretty much flat footed on my Burgman but don't think I would be on this - I think I really would be on tiptoes! I am also around 5ft 7 but not sure of my inside leg measurement!
Hi toria ...yes I had a burgman 650 for a day very impressive ...the t max has much better handling and is much nippier ...agree they are expensive new but are amazing to ride ...yes you will be on tip toes like me ...maybe try and get a mint year old one and save a couple of thousand best wishes mark
Hi Mark, Whats the better buy for touring, the tmax or honda nc750x?
Hi think I'd get a good used nc750x with top box for long distance touring only because I prefer motorcycles round the bends when I'm touring;)
Best wishes mark
Hi Mark! two things would you buy the new one at £13800 ? and which colour would you choose , (petrol Blue, Light Grey, or Black ? )
Hi Pete first off the is the best scooter on the planet in terms of performance and riding enjoyment so the high price is kind of justified...I wouldn't buy new id probably go for one a couple of years old and save £££
Blue or grey would be fine
Best wishes mark
Good video nice bike please can you do an updated benelli tnt 125 I know you have 1 already but a 2022 version
Hi it's exactly the same apart from the nice new colour schemes
Cheers mark
Hi Mark, Pete here' I just bought the 2023 petrol green Tec max bike on Saturday! I have come from the 650 Burgman very similar in spec! It is a lovely
bike and TFT screen is great! I have two issues with the bike! firstly im like you 5,7in tall 29 inch leg and with thick soled riding boots still
struggle to get my feet on the ground which is very off putting at pull ups! second question the exhaust note is great but whilst riding i find the front engine noise quiet to loud and off putting would a different exhaust cure this i wonder? what are your thoughts yours pete!
Hi Pete yes most of the maxi scooters are very tall due to the wide seats they have and the the sound your probably hearing the induction noise which you probably can't get away from but these are truly amazing scooters
Cheers mark
Thanks Mark, another corker! Gave up XMAX lately after many years, even though I'm over 6 foot and all legs, wearing protective trousers the seat eventually ruined the fun! Now on SH300 and all niggles evaporated!
Hi Mark
Usual high standard of review.
Would you have this over the Forza 750 or X-Adv?
Keep em coming
Hi Steven yes I would....it's just rides so well ,not that the others don't but this just has the x factor:)
Exactly my question and conundrum!
@@markpulling12 And also consider the Forza 350. 36kg lighter, 80mpg, greater underseat storage, £5700 rather than £12,700.
very good and informative report. Just wondering whether this new machine has ABS or not
Hi yes it has abs most modern bikes have this as standard these days
Best wishes mark
That thing is very cool , very nice super scooter .
Stunning looking scooter
No mention of electrical access plugs--I use electically heated jackets and ride even when its quite cold--I avoid ice of course but the roads may be dry even below freezing, so I like to have a heated jacket--I'm sure there must be a plug for that purpose, no?
I did mention at 6:47
It has usb output
Cheers mark
I have traded in my T Max tech max 21 plate for a Honda Forza 750, I couldn't stand the sound of the engine on the T Max.
Can anyone comment on the ride/feel of the 22 model over the 20/21 model. Tried a 21 model today but would really prefer the 22 model. TIA
It's a great bike but sounds like a stressed mixer grinder, definitely needs the Akra pipe
Cheers for the review Mark, lovely machine but something on the nose looks off and i can't put my finger on it. Oddly enough I was sitting on one recently at a Yamaha dealer and the salesman said that these are almost impossible to hotwire as they now use much more robust technology. I guess London is the perfect place to find out!
Hi Mark, I know you reviewed the 2022 and 2021 Tmax models. I am about the same height as you. Have you found 2022 Tmax more comfortable or easy to access ground (thanks to a more narrow body)? Thank you very much for your kind reply. Very best, Karel
Hi Karel ...no the are both the same comfort and the same to access
This is the best maxi scooter available in my opinion
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 Hi Mark, thank you for your swift reply! Great reviews; thank you for the time and effort you put into editing videos. I wish you all the best in the year 2023 and many happy miles on the motorcycle. Very best, Karel
@@karelkrticka2786 many thanks you too :)
Excellent view.
I'm stuck on what bike to go for this tmax 560!!!
Or honda forza 750!!
Had forza 300/350 before and a honda xadv
Never had a yamaha tmax!
Never had
I'd go for the tmax ....it's amazing:)
@@markpulling12
Brilliant thanks
Yes I was looking at that one more looks lovely and nippy. And love the technology in it. Yes watching your video now of it cheers dan
@@worzysp1 it rides like a motorcycle and it's very quick ...I found it more fun than the Forza 750
@@markpulling12
Oh wow yes sounds great
I'd also upgrade the variatior and belt clutch and rollers and exhaust
@@worzysp1 oh wow that's it then ....sorted great choice 👍👍 best wishes mark
great review👍
Hell of a bit of kit wish it was a bit cheaper and I would put my money on the counter
Too expensive for me. I prefer the Honda Forza 350, a fantastic mid size scooter.
Yes agree the Forza 350 is one of the best value scooters out there :)
Good review.👌🇳🇱
Wonder what its like two up , though the range is a bit short .But other than that a cool bike ,i like it .
I'd say it's very comfortable for a passenger especially with a top box :)
I'm getting a piaggio fly 50 cc what are you thoughts
Just looked at it on Google yes looks a good reliable ped you should get good experience on this for your first year or so good luck ...mark
How close does the key fob need to be to start the engine? With this said, how far will the scooter go away from the fob?
Hi it's roughly about 3 metres
Thanks mark
Cheers, so that's 3 metres to start then I assume the bike will continue to run away from the fob? This would be a concern if you wanted to take the scooter away with a campervan or tent. Would this then be a major security flaw or am I assuming the scooter engine would still continue to run if stolen?
@@accidentalactor9306 I'm pretty sure with all keyless bikes once they are started and you walk away they carry on running once you are out of range
They won't just stop or cut out ...I guess it's the same situation if you just left a bike running with the key in it someone could just hop on it
Cheers mark
Maybe worth testing and highlighting this scenario on future tests.
@@accidentalactor9306 Hi there, I have a 2021 Yamaha Xmax with keyless ignition and there is a button on the wireless key fob to turn the it off. Thus the bike won't recognize the key even though you're near it. This has two purposes, 1) saves key fob battery, when the bike is gonna sit for long, 2) security, key won't unlock the bike unless you don't want it to. I firmly believe that the Tmax key fob would have the same feature.
Does it go over bumps fine? Or is it bone rattling
Hi no it's fine ...it has motorcycle suspension which is plush rather than the usual scooter suspension which can be a bit harsh
Best regards mark
Great review as ever Mark. Sat on one at the Bike show back in Feb and definitely wide seat. But great machine, i got the Forza 350 earlier this year, but only only thing I'd swap that for is one of these, if I had the extra £6k obviously 😉👍 One question though Sir, you never review Ducati bikes, any chance?
Hi Floyd I did the multistrada a few years ago but the problem for me is my nearest dealer is Winchester which is quite a way for me and I have lots of closer options
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 I took the plunge last week and traded in the Forza 350 for a new Tmax. Really enjoying it and a good step up in performance and comfort. Excellent deal and service by Crescent Yamaha in Bournemouth. Hope you on commission 🤣 And in case you don't know, Ducati Bournemouth opening in the Spring so hopefully we'll see you reviewing their bikes 👍
What's your preferred choice Tmax or XADV?
Haha I was waiting for this question...the xadv has a more relaxed engine slightly better for touring but the tmax is a bit more lively. :)
@@markpulling12 At least Yamaha saw fit to provide cruise control and an electric windscreen. 🙂 But,,, truth be told I'm a big DCT fan. Plus the XADV as you mentioned at "touring speed" is sublime.
Cud u get boxes from.or wood u say forza 750 batter for it
Hi David you could get a big top box and it's got undeseat storage...I prefer this to the Forza but they are both great cheers mark
How does this bike compare to the Forza 750?
Hi I found it more fun and agile but still a brilliant engine...I think the Honda would make the slightly better tourer
Cheers mark
I wish they sell these in the United States
How acurate is the speedo?
Hi its accurate...it over reads by a few mph only which is normal these days with most vehicles
Best wishes mark
Wot is is like for touring do you get all the boxes
Amazing for touring but no boxes I'm affaid
Wot.under the side mate i finking gettimg going.from.uk scotland to austrila wood.it be ok for at
@@davidwilkie6302 yes definitely
I'd much rather have a Honda X-ADV 750 than this. I suppose the TMax appeals to scooter riders, whereas the 750 appeals to bike riders who quite like scooters. More storage on the TMax, but it's unattractive visually by comparison. Nice handlebars, mind. One more thing: I'd rather have Honda's DCT than the constant whine of CVT.
The usual first-class review. There is no reason to consult anyone else.
Hi nik many thanks 👍
Something is wrong with the Tmax you are riding. On your video the rev counter is not working. I suspect foul play on the part of Yamaha...if it was working viewers would freak out at how high this machine revs - even at low speeds. This causes the the engine to whine and sound more like some Chinese125cc scooter - not at all good. I've owned and ridden a Honda Integra 670cc, a Suzuki Burgman 650, a BMW C650 GT - all purchased new and each one ridden over 20 000km (I live in Australia where weekend rides can be over 500km). Now I have the latest Tmax Techmax with all the trimmings. I have to say that I am truly very disappointed. The ride is smooth and comfortable and the technology very good. But the damn thing revs far too high for my liking. There is some vibration through the handlebars - not sufficient to make long distance riding uncomfortable, but irritating enough to slightly blur those tiny rear view mirrors. The high revving makes the thing quite thirsty and it sounds utterly crap. I am unable to compare it to the the Honda Forza 750 or the XAdv 750, as none of these are available in Australia. The only rival the Tmax now has in Australia is the Kymco AK550, which has yet to be sold here in its upgraded, more high-tech version. I have test ridden the AK 550 and engine wise it is similar to the Tmax (perhaps not quite as zippy from a standing start) but it sounds much better - more torquey and less whiney. On the open road at 115 kph the Tmax revs at around 5000rpm and it is really loud from the rider's perspective. Of course if you select so called Sport mode then all that happens is the auto gears take a little longer to shift up making it even noisier and thirstier, but with no benefit in my estimation. When you take your hand off the throttle the machine slows down really quickly - the engine seems almost to be relieved that you are no longer strangling the life out of it! It will be interesting to see if these machines turn out to be reliable. My machine will be sold if and when one of the above-mentioned Hondas becomes available in Australia.
Hi Anthony I think the engine revs high when you have the throttle wide open..when you then back off say at 60 mph it settles down to a nice steady ,4 k rpm
Crescent Yamaha are the benchmark dealer in the UK and they have just sold this exact bike to a customer he's over the moon with it ..thanks for your feedback anyway
Best wishes mark
It is certainly a fine machine perhaps more geared to some serious touring rather than an urban commute - quite heavy at 220kg and a tad hungry on fuel - some may perceive it as expensive however it does have all the bells and whistles - unfortunately it would be a major target for the thief’s of Britain’s inner cities
Thanks Thomas ...yes it's expensive but what a machine cheers mark
Hi Mark, to put you on the spot with the automatic theme, T Max or the Honda NC750X ?
Hi tmax for me :)
@@markpulling12 Very interesting. I love your no nonsense, realistic reviews. Please keep them coming.
Looks amazing but if I was shelling out 12k on a2 bikes, think if go for a cb500f and a CRF for fun in the dirt. Who spends 12k on scooters??
Good review as usual
Me. I spent 12k and I am so pleased with it. My last bike was a Rocket 3R
Whats the top speed on this?
About 115 mph
this cost around Mid 30s Thousand in singapore dollar, for 10years :)
Thanks for making this video...
T.MAX A.k.A 🐘🤣
Can't see why anyone would pay £12k for a 500cc scooter with gadgets.
Without any competition, they can price it however they want to. The next closest scooter would be the Kymco AK550 which isn't exactly close to the quality of the TMAX.
Definitely thats crazy £13000. Its only 46 bhp.
I know i spent a fair bit on the aprilia srv 850
But its the fastest scooter in the world standard!!!
Ive had mine mapped / dyno/ turned/ and a one off hand built twin exhaust.
Just a shame aprilia/ gilera
Stopped making them
I’ve had bikes all my life, stopped counting at 50. Have three bikes currently including a new TMax, it’s awesome and my first choice on most days, and my other two bikes have three litres capacity between them.
The same reason many don’t buy sports bikes or gold wings fir 20k when a 750 does the same thing on public roads - it’s hourses for courses ,some just want a simple a to b commuter that good on fuel , can link up a Mobile and keep you driers all a road legal speeds. Granted it is about 3 k to much but it’s a good little commuter,personally I chose the honda Fraser 750 dct Still get about 55 to a gallon at 70
2022 Super Tenere can achieve 55 mpg at 55 mph. Same price. More range. More versatile. More power. Adjustable suspension. Attached cases more storage. More fun. 145 top speed. Why buy a scooter trying to be a motorcycle?
Mark, you dyed your hair? Looking sexy.
Haha 🤣 thanks nik
Please I live in America, all this driving on the wrong side is scaring me!