Brian, thank you so much for pointing out the differences between the older GS model and the new GS model. I stopped by to different dealerships looking at the bikes and neither one could tell me what the actual differences were other than color scheme.
I agree. Some ‘issues’ are worth living with. I’ve got a 2013 R1200Gs and the ‘hopping’ clutch on that only presents itself when I do a technical ride. And by that time I usually take a rest in any case. Removing the ABS button seems like a huge oversight, as does the traction control. But still a very nice option for commuting if you never take a pillion.
Brian, thank you for the thoughtful, insightful review. Your honest assessment speaks to a growing group of Adv riders. These aren’t beginniners, but those who wish to extend their time in the sport. At 72 I’ve ridden everything from CT 90’s to GoldWings, and adventure riding is where my interest lies now. I purchased a new G 310 GS in 2017, and while it’s in no way perfect I’m confident it will make it possible for me enjoy the ride for years to come. Thanks again!
I bought mine as a 'BMW G310GS Predecessor' in February 2021 just before updated model was released. I was quite prepared to wait a month or so for the updated model but the lack of the switchable ABS killed it for me.
Fantastic review, Brian. I have the same exact GS as you. I've learned to really like it in spite of its quirks. I always have fun on it. Light, comfortable, and versitile. Anyway, greetings from Utah, USA. Be well.
I love my 2019 G310GS. I wouldn't trade it for any other bike because it's ideal for how I ride - back roads, gravel roads and dirt roads, and almost no highway riding. I bought it for solo ultralight ADV motorcycle camping. The slipper clutch and ride by wire throttle are nice additions I'd like to have, but I wouldn't trade my ABS button for them as BMW forced us to do. The flickering headlight was a quick and easy fix by replacing the halogen bulb with an LED bulb and replacing the three rubber mounts with stainless fender washers. I also upgraded to LED turn signals at the same time, which was also cheap and easy. BMW nailed the aesthetics. Many people have told me it's a gorgeous bike, including my 90 year old mom, and I'd agree. The only disappointment for me was the 2.9 gallon (11 litre) fuel tank. It should have twice the fuel capacity. I installed Koso Apollo heated grips and they look like factory heated grips. They work great. This is the first bike I've had with heated grips and I'll never go without heated grips again. I also added an aluminum skid plate, USB charging ports, GPS tracker hidden in the beak, an SAE port for a battery maintainer and 12VDC power port when the bike is off, a windshield, larger pegs, enlarged kickstand foot, etc. I still need to add engine crash bars, hand guards, two channel digital video recorder with rear view display for better situational awareness, tall Seat Concepts seat and LED auxiliary lights.
Looks like you went all out. Just keep in mind: I have just had my bike in for its annual service and my aluminium bashplate is to heavy for the mounting rubbers. Mine have already torn off.
@@BrianCheyne - I've had my G310GS for almost three years, with the aluminum bash plate the entire time, and have had no trouble. I remove it once a year when I change the oil and filter. One possible problem if riding hard - it's possible for a chunk of gravel of the wrong size to become trapped between the bash plate and oil filter and the vibration will wear a hole in the filter.
Brian, thanks for the assessment. First BMW purchased is a used 2018. Its a magnificent urban bike. My sone is learning on this bike and the clutch is giving him fits. I showed him your video and encouraged more practice and revs when starting out. You briefly mention the KTMs elections, i almost went with the KTM 390 for this reason. Settled for the BMW and height the 310 has to offer. Thanks again, cheers!
Thanks for the review Brian. Your words were ringing in my ear during my test ride of the 310GS. I’ve decided to trade my Husqvarna Vitpilen 401 for a Rallye paint scheme 310GS. I’ll miss a little if the power but the versatility of this BMW will hopefully open a few more options for me on weekends.
I considered the Husqvarna before I got my G310GS. NO REGRETS getting the BMW as my daily rider. The physical presence of both bikes are worlds appart even though both are stunning to look at. Enjoy!!
You have got to make motorcycle reviews and maybe a few helmet reviews. Your presentation is so professional. You're so knowledgeable. I would trust your word for it. I can see your channel grow big just by the way you present it.
Thank you sid. We did try that a while back, but that is a lot work. Also, we get the bikes long after they have been launched, which makes our videos "old news". th-cam.com/users/gearupvideoreviews
@@BrianCheyne wishing you good luck with this and the other channel. Old news or not I'd love to see YOU review it. Ik I'm being unreasonable but i just love your style
I have 2021 and I do like it. I'd like another 100cc's though! Even though, the G 310 GS is a great value and an absolute great beginner light ADV bike. I use it for urban commuting but do take it off road and it performs well on the fire roads and double track.
Y@@fikrisk8406 Yes, they're good urban commuter bikes. I had some reliability issues with mine and had two stators that failed but both were replaced under warranty.
I have the same new 310. Great value because it is much cheaper 1500 us dollars less here in the Philippines (covid sale). A second hand 1st version sells same as brand new version. It has some quirks but i learned to live with it. ABS switch? Its no loss for me the way i use it, as a commuter in this 3rd world country.
I’ve had both as well. Do you feel the front suspension has been improved in the bs6 version? Is it just me or does it feel stiffer and not dive so much now?
I have the 2021 40 Years and I can tell this little GS rocks baby! An excellent option for commuting and eventually get highways and dirt roads. I love it. Cheers from Brazil Brian !
@@amarcorreia1726 até agora só tenho elogios quanto a ela. Mas se for pegar, sugiro fortemente o modelo novo ( 2021 acima ), pois já arrumaram muitos dos problemas que a primeira versão apresentou para algumas pessoas. Depois olha meu outro canal ( Marc 76 ) que tenho uns dois vídeos rodando com ela e falando da moto.
Good review and very on point. I bought the 2020 version here in Brazil at a time I knew the new model would bê launched without switch for ABS turn off. But my bike never stalled when riding at low speeds. And my test ride with the 2020 model was much better than before, when I tested it in 2018 and yes, stalled several times and had a very soft front suspension . So I absolutely agree with you. What I do not like in my bike is the fuel capacity, so I should move to a cb 500 x next. Cheers!
I wish BMW offered a G310GS Adventure version with a 5 gallon fuel tank, tubeless spoke wheels, an aluminum bash plate, engine protection bars, and fully adjustable suspension front and rear. Those upgrades would cost BMW less than US$400 and I'd pay US$2000 more for that bike. Old guys are going with smaller bikes to keep riding, and tend to have more discretionary income. BMW should offer a G310GS Adventure.
Hi, I own a G310 GS 2019 red color. Below my point of view it is a nice design done!. I like it and I enjoy it. I just changed the seat for a low seat.
And are you happy with the lowered seat?Is it comfy enough? I hear it doesn’t lower the seat height that much. Only about 1cm max? Im currently looking to purchase a 310 GS myself, but I’m a very short bloke at 1.65m low lol. Looking for all the help I can get. I’m considering a lowering kit if it’s too uncomfortable tbh
@@johnnylima784 Hi. I am a short person, 1.65 cm. I did install the low seat, which is 1.5 cm lowest than the original. Even is only 1.5 cm, it's makes a difference, due 1.5 cm less is significative for a short person. So I feel happy with it. Also I drive only on streets. I don't use off road. Due the low seat makes more hard the bike. A little bit. Also for security I use high Sketchers shoes and I win 2 cms more. Finally I enjoy the BMW g310gs very much. I use it only for fun on weekends. I don't recommend changing suspension, it is a high cost modification and not sure if you will be happy finally. This is my opinion. BEST regards. Marcelo
Nice vid, love my baby GS, I've found not having switchable abs is not the big deal some make it out to be on this bike, you soon get used to it, and it's still a lot of fun to ride it off road.
Thank you for the comment DR200 Gold. There was an incident with one of BMW's demo units where a lady tackled a very technical section on one of our local passes. On the way down, she was a little to hot into one corner and the bike did not want to stop. She and the bike ended up in a ditch. But as I said in the video, this is not an Enduro bike and you should ride it accordingly.
I wondered if maybe BMW tweaked the ABS so it doesn't roll as much in off road situations, so eliminating the ABS switch wouldn't be so hazardous for steep off road descents, but I want to be able to disengage the ABS for off road riding and wouldn't give up the ABS button to get a slipper clutch and ride by wire throttle. I'm sick of government regulators forcing ABS on us because it makes bikes safer ON ROAD for low to medium experience riders, while completely ignoring the hazard the ABS causes for off road riding. They have highway safety statistics and don't care about off road crashes. I want ABS on road and will pay extra for it, but I want to be able to turn it off when riding down steep dirt roads or trails. It's bad enough when regulators force manufacturers to re-engage ABS every time the bike stalls when riding off road, but not allowing ABS to be disabled at all is dangerous and stupid on an ADV or dual sport bike.
Will be adding a new 310 gs to my stable. Mating it up with my 1250 rs and r nine t pure will give me the perfect variety. Depending on my mood, I can easily switch my riding mate. 👍👍🙋♂️
It must be nice to have the luxury of being able to afford more than one bike so that you can switch whenever you feel like it. I'm already in hot water with another hobby of mine with my "significant other" over buying too much audio equipment and I might be looking for another "significant other" if I were to start buying motorcycles like I buy audio equipment.
Regarding hopping headlight there is very simple solution. I did it on my 310gs. You just need to remove rubber pads under the 2 light holding screws. As simple as that.
I saw that, but two things made me change my mind about doing that. First, the light fitting was designed like that for a reason. Changing it might cause structural failure somewhere else. I don't know. Secondly, I am useless and anything that involves tools! :D
I’m living with the clutch issue now, and the hopping headlight. The bike had an electrical issue a year ago involving the battery - that caused the bike to stall on me in the middle of nowhere. BMW roadside assistance hauled me and the motorcycle out of the deep woods. Nevertheless, I think the 310 GS was a nice try by BMW. I still don’t want some 500 pound behemoth under me when I’m riding off-road.
Great insight thank you. I am currently researching this bike as my first and wonder if the clutch is an issue can you easily fit the new style clutch to the older model bike ? Same with the throttle, would that be upgradable on the older bike ? Cheers.
Looking at it hard, but small gas tank, messed up gearing and no tec. for the money the 390 advn. Kicks bmw's bottom. Love the ergonomics and look but $600 difference not worth it. KTM light looks stupid but everything is a compromise.
Interesting thoughts. Currently exploring your region and making notes when I come back next year. Would you recommend this bike to tour South Africa, Botswana and Zambia for someone coming from the states? I am an avid longtime rider who loves to tour. I currently own a urban gs 1200 (was torn between the 1200 and the 310 when trying to balance ride and places I wanted to see) and an airhead r100cs. I tour with soft bags and try not to ride at night. Would love to hear your views on touring and how you do it. What you do to have a successful and safe ride throughout South Africa.
I can only talk about touring South Africa. There are so many beautiful places to visit, and most of them are accessible on reasonable roads. All I can say is to take your time. Travel slow and with purpose. No game parks allow motorcycles, so if you want to visit places like Kruger Park, you will have to get an alternative mode of transport. Our country really offers everything from mountains to beaches to desert. Talk to the locals, they will be far more knowledgeable than Google will ever be. Botswana also has some beautiful places, but you have to be weary about sand. You can get to most places on tar roads, but you can get yourself into serious trouble there if you are not used to riding in sand. The 310 is also not exactly ideal for sand riding. Personally, rather visit Namibia than Zambia. :)
@Brian Cheyne , do the older version have more tapping noise on idle? i have heard that they changed the rocker on the new model so they have lower ticking noise?
Hi Brian. Thank you for this helpful comparison. You showed us why you wouldn't replace it with the new, upgraded model of 310. But, can you specify here in the comments which bike would be worthy for a replacement? This way we could make a good point to analyze your comparison. thank you
The idea of the video was to give my reasons why I should not have to upgrade just because a new model is out. If you are looking at replacing your BMW G 310 then it will have to be for something with slightly bigger capacity. Even the Zontes 310-T already has better performance and they have now upgraded their engine to a 350. So honestly, if BMW increases the capacity of the G-range, that would be wonderful. I have ridden the KTM 390 Adventure as well, and that is something I would consider.
@@BrianCheyne I have read some reviews on the KTM 390 and that is a bike that also piqued my interest in the category these bikes are trying to attract riders to. I am new to motorcycles in general and want something that is both good on the highway and on the back roads with just a bit of capability for some single track riding. I would prefer to buy a used one to keep my initial cost down. I have found a 2022 BMW 310 now I'm searching for a KTM 390 so I can compare the two.
I think you are wrong, I believe it is worth the change, I am now in the progress of trading my 19 plate to a 22 plate 310GS. One big reason for me is I also ride at night and the headlight is awful on my current bike, not only is the illumination poor, but riding behind friends they tell me the hopping headlight drives them mad...oh and the triple black colour scheme is amazing ! The electronic throttle makes the bike feel more responsive and the LED indicators make it a safer bike as you are seen better especially at roundabouts I looked at many bikes prior to upgrading including the KTM390, Tiger 660 Sport and CB500X, but for me the 310GS is the most comfortable, agile and fun bike of the lot. The small turning cicle also comes in handy when manouvering in a tight spot...just wish they made the fuel capacity slightly larger
Thank Ian for the feedback. As I said, for me it is not worth it. You have a completely valid argument with the headlight. And if you ride a night a lot, then by all means! And yes, the new colours are amazing!
@@BrianCheyne I think that I'm with you on it not being worth the upgrade but then again I haven't rode either one of them so who really knows for sure.
Weeell, of course you are not gonna get a different bike by just replacing the 2020 with 2021, BUT there really is a huuuuge difference in control at low speed (eg on country roads or in heavy traffic) that makes 2021 substantially better in that part. As for the light - it’s not even worth mentioning. Many users never ride in the dark. The shaking problem can be easily solved by just adding rubber adsorbers around but even when it isn’t shaking - the light is still far below any standards and has to be replaced with an aftermarket solution.
You Should try to upgrade your suspension with a Hyperpro, I am a tall mann (195 cm) and i did that on my G310 GS and it runs perfect now. Hyperpro suspension is aroung 350€ for a full kit and it raises your bike with aprox 2 cm. This wil also help on your sidestand because the bike will lean over a little bit more when stand still.
Thanks Steen, but I think for the type of riding I do, I am going to stop adding things to my GS now. It is always an issue when you want to sell your bike further down the line, you never get your money back on all the accessories.
A few months ago I rented a 2019 model 310gs while vacationing for a week of mixed riding - cities, highways, with some light off-road and found it to be a lot of fun. I agree about the stalling issue, compared to 850 I think I stalled the 310 more the first 2 days than any bike I've ever been on, but I did get use to it after a day or so. I enjoyed the versatility of this bike so much that when I came back home I bought a 2022 model to have fun with as a trail bike. The clutch and throttle on the new one is night and day difference -- you really have to TRY to stall the newer models. Such a fun bike. Nice review and comparison, your points are very accurate.
Brian what do you think about the shifts? My bike shifts like butter when its cold, but when the engine climbs to 80+ C degrees the gears are impossible.
I like quite a bit about what you have to say but you don't mention the years of the bikes that you are comparing nearly enough. Especially right from the start you need to say that you are comparing a specific year, make,and model to whatever year make and model you are comparing it to. You seem to be assuming that people who are watching have watched you before or already know some of the specifics of the bikes that you are comparing. I kept waiting for you to reiterate what two bikes you were comparing and then I waited some more. I know that you know what you are talking about now if you can just brush up on the details that are so important I might just subscribe.
Thank you for your feedback. There have just been two iterations of the G 310 GS. The launch model ( 2016-2020) and this updated version (2021-present). I was assuming that the riders of the first iteration might be considering the updated version, so those were the people I was targeting.
@@BrianCheyne I could tell that you were targeting riders that are more familiar with the two iterations that are available and riders that are more experienced than myself in general. I'm a newbie to motorcycles and not just to these two different versions of BMW's G 310 GS consequently so it is sometimes a bit of a tough go for me when a writer assumes a lot of things about motorcycles. I find myself having to read a comment several times when a writer has assumed anything. I could tell that you know much more about motorcycles than I probably ever will but I enjoyed the content of your piece and just thought that if you could make it a bit easier for newbies like me to understand it I might as well make a recommendation to you. Thanks for taking the time to explain your side of things.
Brian, thank you so much for pointing out the differences between the older GS model and the new GS model. I stopped by to different dealerships looking at the bikes and neither one could tell me what the actual differences were other than color scheme.
Nice honest review I recently purchased a 2023 model and I love it
Another excellent presentation, Brian. Thanks for the food for thought!
As far as the bouncing headlight it’s just two screws you can tighten and it stops bouncing. After tightening it hasn’t bounced to me again
I agree. Some ‘issues’ are worth living with. I’ve got a 2013 R1200Gs and the ‘hopping’ clutch on that only presents itself when I do a technical ride. And by that time I usually take a rest in any case. Removing the ABS button seems like a huge oversight, as does the traction control. But still a very nice option for commuting if you never take a pillion.
Brian, thank you for the thoughtful, insightful review. Your honest assessment speaks to a growing group of Adv riders. These aren’t beginniners, but those who wish to extend their time in the sport.
At 72 I’ve ridden everything from CT 90’s to GoldWings, and adventure riding is where my interest lies now. I purchased a new G 310 GS in 2017, and while it’s in no way perfect I’m confident it will make it possible for me enjoy the ride for years to come.
Thanks again!
What a great review mate, as always there are pros and cons...Thanks! Im gonna go get me one!
Needed this, Thanks!
I bought mine as a 'BMW G310GS Predecessor' in February 2021 just before updated model was released. I was quite prepared to wait a month or so for the updated model but the lack of the switchable ABS killed it for me.
Fantastic review, Brian. I have the same exact GS as you. I've learned to really like it in spite of its quirks. I always have fun on it. Light, comfortable, and versitile. Anyway, greetings from Utah, USA. Be well.
How's the fuel consumption?
Such a genuine no non sense review.. great 👍 help...thanks sir
Thank you Brian for your feedback
310 is fun!!!! (25000 km) Even when the only colour was pink, I would buy the gs. greetings from the Netherlands.
I love my 2019 G310GS. I wouldn't trade it for any other bike because it's ideal for how I ride - back roads, gravel roads and dirt roads, and almost no highway riding. I bought it for solo ultralight ADV motorcycle camping.
The slipper clutch and ride by wire throttle are nice additions I'd like to have, but I wouldn't trade my ABS button for them as BMW forced us to do. The flickering headlight was a quick and easy fix by replacing the halogen bulb with an LED bulb and replacing the three rubber mounts with stainless fender washers. I also upgraded to LED turn signals at the same time, which was also cheap and easy.
BMW nailed the aesthetics. Many people have told me it's a gorgeous bike, including my 90 year old mom, and I'd agree.
The only disappointment for me was the 2.9 gallon (11 litre) fuel tank. It should have twice the fuel capacity.
I installed Koso Apollo heated grips and they look like factory heated grips. They work great. This is the first bike I've had with heated grips and I'll never go without heated grips again. I also added an aluminum skid plate, USB charging ports, GPS tracker hidden in the beak, an SAE port for a battery maintainer and 12VDC power port when the bike is off, a windshield, larger pegs, enlarged kickstand foot, etc. I still need to add engine crash bars, hand guards, two channel digital video recorder with rear view display for better situational awareness, tall Seat Concepts seat and LED auxiliary lights.
Looks like you went all out. Just keep in mind: I have just had my bike in for its annual service and my aluminium bashplate is to heavy for the mounting rubbers. Mine have already torn off.
@@BrianCheyne - I've had my G310GS for almost three years, with the aluminum bash plate the entire time, and have had no trouble. I remove it once a year when I change the oil and filter. One possible problem if riding hard - it's possible for a chunk of gravel of the wrong size to become trapped between the bash plate and oil filter and the vibration will wear a hole in the filter.
I’ve gotten used to the clutch on my 2019. I can’t help but love the fun factor of that bike. Great little dual sport
Thank you sir I really was in dilemma ❤
Brian, thanks for the assessment. First BMW purchased is a used 2018. Its a magnificent urban bike. My sone is learning on this bike and the clutch is giving him fits. I showed him your video and encouraged more practice and revs when starting out. You briefly mention the KTMs elections, i almost went with the KTM 390 for this reason. Settled for the BMW and height the 310 has to offer. Thanks again, cheers!
Thanks for the review Brian. Your words were ringing in my ear during my test ride of the 310GS.
I’ve decided to trade my Husqvarna Vitpilen 401 for a Rallye paint scheme 310GS.
I’ll miss a little if the power but the versatility of this BMW will hopefully open a few more options for me on weekends.
I considered the Husqvarna before I got my G310GS. NO REGRETS getting the BMW as my daily rider. The physical presence of both bikes are worlds appart even though both are stunning to look at. Enjoy!!
You have got to make motorcycle reviews and maybe a few helmet reviews. Your presentation is so professional. You're so knowledgeable. I would trust your word for it. I can see your channel grow big just by the way you present it.
Thank you sid. We did try that a while back, but that is a lot work. Also, we get the bikes long after they have been launched, which makes our videos "old news". th-cam.com/users/gearupvideoreviews
@@BrianCheyne wow that's a pretty good collection right there! Thank you for putting such great content out there !!
@@BrianCheyne wishing you good luck with this and the other channel. Old news or not I'd love to see YOU review it. Ik I'm being unreasonable but i just love your style
Thank you
I have 2021 and I do like it. I'd like another 100cc's though! Even though, the G 310 GS is a great value and an absolute great beginner light ADV bike. I use it for urban commuting but do take it off road and it performs well on the fire roads and double track.
Overall, is it worth to own 310 for urban use? Im planning to own one
Y@@fikrisk8406 Yes, they're good urban commuter bikes. I had some reliability issues with mine and had two stators that failed but both were replaced under warranty.
I have the same new 310. Great value because it is much cheaper 1500 us dollars less here in the Philippines (covid sale). A second hand 1st version sells same as brand new version. It has some quirks but i learned to live with it. ABS switch? Its no loss for me the way i use it, as a commuter in this 3rd world country.
I’ve had both as well. Do you feel the front suspension has been improved in the bs6 version? Is it just me or does it feel stiffer and not dive so much now?
I have the 2021 40 Years and I can tell this little GS rocks baby! An excellent option for commuting and eventually get highways and dirt roads. I love it.
Cheers from Brazil Brian !
Vale a pena comprar mesmo mano?
Estou pensando em comprar uma.
@@amarcorreia1726 até agora só tenho elogios quanto a ela. Mas se for pegar, sugiro fortemente o modelo novo ( 2021 acima ), pois já arrumaram muitos dos problemas que a primeira versão apresentou para algumas pessoas.
Depois olha meu outro canal ( Marc 76 ) que tenho uns dois vídeos rodando com ela e falando da moto.
@@dronerecplay2687 Muito obrigado pela dica. Vou ver o outro vídeo.
Sempre faz um vídeo da moto, seria muito bom saber a sua esperência com ela.
Good review and very on point. I bought the 2020 version here in Brazil at a time I knew the new model would bê launched without switch for ABS turn off.
But my bike never stalled when riding at low speeds. And my test ride with the 2020 model was much better than before, when I tested it in 2018 and yes, stalled several times and had a very soft front suspension . So I absolutely agree with you. What I do not like in my bike is the fuel capacity, so I should move to a cb 500 x next.
Cheers!
Tu é brasileiro?
I wish BMW offered a G310GS Adventure version with a 5 gallon fuel tank, tubeless spoke wheels, an aluminum bash plate, engine protection bars, and fully adjustable suspension front and rear. Those upgrades would cost BMW less than US$400 and I'd pay US$2000 more for that bike. Old guys are going with smaller bikes to keep riding, and tend to have more discretionary income. BMW should offer a G310GS Adventure.
Hi, I own a G310 GS 2019 red color. Below my point of view it is a nice design done!. I like it and I enjoy it. I just changed the seat for a low seat.
And are you happy with the lowered seat?Is it comfy enough?
I hear it doesn’t lower the seat height that much. Only about 1cm max?
Im currently looking to purchase a 310 GS myself, but I’m a very short bloke at 1.65m low lol. Looking for all the help I can get. I’m considering a lowering kit if it’s too uncomfortable tbh
@@johnnylima784 Hi. I am a short person, 1.65 cm. I did install the low seat, which is 1.5 cm lowest than the original. Even is only 1.5 cm, it's makes a difference, due 1.5 cm less is significative for a short person. So I feel happy with it. Also I drive only on streets. I don't use off road. Due the low seat makes more hard the bike. A little bit.
Also for security I use high Sketchers shoes and I win 2 cms more.
Finally I enjoy the BMW g310gs very much. I use it only for fun on weekends.
I don't recommend changing suspension, it is a high cost modification and not sure if you will be happy finally.
This is my opinion.
BEST regards. Marcelo
What would it cost BMW to have spoked rims on all their GS motorcycles?
I’m getting the 2021 gs 310 this month and I cannot wait🙌
Enjoy it!
You will love it it’s a great bike
I'm contemplating on getting one. Would you guys recommend one for a first time rider?
Nice vid, love my baby GS, I've found not having switchable abs is not the big deal some make it out to be on this bike, you soon get used to it, and it's still a lot of fun to ride it off road.
Thank you for the comment DR200 Gold. There was an incident with one of BMW's demo units where a lady tackled a very technical section on one of our local passes. On the way down, she was a little to hot into one corner and the bike did not want to stop. She and the bike ended up in a ditch. But as I said in the video, this is not an Enduro bike and you should ride it accordingly.
I wondered if maybe BMW tweaked the ABS so it doesn't roll as much in off road situations, so eliminating the ABS switch wouldn't be so hazardous for steep off road descents, but I want to be able to disengage the ABS for off road riding and wouldn't give up the ABS button to get a slipper clutch and ride by wire throttle. I'm sick of government regulators forcing ABS on us because it makes bikes safer ON ROAD for low to medium experience riders, while completely ignoring the hazard the ABS causes for off road riding. They have highway safety statistics and don't care about off road crashes. I want ABS on road and will pay extra for it, but I want to be able to turn it off when riding down steep dirt roads or trails. It's bad enough when regulators force manufacturers to re-engage ABS every time the bike stalls when riding off road, but not allowing ABS to be disabled at all is dangerous and stupid on an ADV or dual sport bike.
Will be adding a new 310 gs to my stable. Mating it up with my 1250 rs and r nine t pure will give me the perfect variety. Depending on my mood, I can easily switch my riding mate. 👍👍🙋♂️
That is why I always say: "There is no such thing as perfect bike, just a perfect garage!"
It must be nice to have the luxury of being able to afford more than one bike so that you can switch whenever you feel like it. I'm already in hot water with another hobby of mine with my "significant other" over buying too much audio equipment and I might be looking for another "significant other" if I were to start buying motorcycles like I buy audio equipment.
Regarding hopping headlight there is very simple solution. I did it on my 310gs. You just need to remove rubber pads under the 2 light holding screws. As simple as that.
I saw that, but two things made me change my mind about doing that. First, the light fitting was designed like that for a reason. Changing it might cause structural failure somewhere else. I don't know. Secondly, I am useless and anything that involves tools! :D
@@BrianCheyne yes, I was affraid of the bulb, but I have it for well over a year and nothing bad happened. Easy fix.
I’m living with the clutch issue now, and the hopping headlight. The bike had an electrical issue a year ago involving the battery - that caused the bike to stall on me in the middle of nowhere. BMW roadside assistance hauled me and the motorcycle out of the deep woods. Nevertheless, I think the 310 GS was a nice try by BMW. I still don’t want some 500 pound behemoth under me when I’m riding off-road.
Great insight thank you. I am currently researching this bike as my first and wonder if the clutch is an issue can you easily fit the new style clutch to the older model bike ? Same with the throttle, would that be upgradable on the older bike ? Cheers.
Oh dear, that I will not be able to answer. I have no idea what would be involved, sorry.
Looking at it hard, but small gas tank, messed up gearing and no tec.
for the money the 390 advn. Kicks bmw's bottom. Love the ergonomics and look but $600 difference not worth it. KTM light looks stupid but everything is a compromise.
Interesting thoughts. Currently exploring your region and making notes when I come back next year. Would you recommend this bike to tour South Africa, Botswana and Zambia for someone coming from the states? I am an avid longtime rider who loves to tour. I currently own a urban gs 1200 (was torn between the 1200 and the 310 when trying to balance ride and places I wanted to see) and an airhead r100cs. I tour with soft bags and try not to ride at night. Would love to hear your views on touring and how you do it. What you do to have a successful and safe ride throughout South Africa.
I can only talk about touring South Africa. There are so many beautiful places to visit, and most of them are accessible on reasonable roads. All I can say is to take your time. Travel slow and with purpose. No game parks allow motorcycles, so if you want to visit places like Kruger Park, you will have to get an alternative mode of transport. Our country really offers everything from mountains to beaches to desert. Talk to the locals, they will be far more knowledgeable than Google will ever be. Botswana also has some beautiful places, but you have to be weary about sand. You can get to most places on tar roads, but you can get yourself into serious trouble there if you are not used to riding in sand. The 310 is also not exactly ideal for sand riding. Personally, rather visit Namibia than Zambia. :)
Question: how many ‘issues’ make a problem?
@Brian Cheyne , do the older version have more tapping noise on idle? i have heard that they changed the rocker on the new model so they have lower ticking noise?
I did not notice a tapping noise. The engine does sound a bit better though.
Hi Brian. Thank you for this helpful comparison. You showed us why you wouldn't replace it with the new, upgraded model of 310. But, can you specify here in the comments which bike would be worthy for a replacement? This way we could make a good point to analyze your comparison.
thank you
The idea of the video was to give my reasons why I should not have to upgrade just because a new model is out. If you are looking at replacing your BMW G 310 then it will have to be for something with slightly bigger capacity. Even the Zontes 310-T already has better performance and they have now upgraded their engine to a 350. So honestly, if BMW increases the capacity of the G-range, that would be wonderful. I have ridden the KTM 390 Adventure as well, and that is something I would consider.
@@BrianCheyne I have read some reviews on the KTM 390 and that is a bike that also piqued my interest in the category these bikes are trying to attract riders to. I am new to motorcycles in general and want something that is both good on the highway and on the back roads with just a bit of capability for some single track riding. I would prefer to buy a used one to keep my initial cost down. I have found a 2022 BMW 310 now I'm searching for a KTM 390 so I can compare the two.
is this a good first bike? vs the g310 r too
A TFT display... like the one on KTM ADV 390... would be better here
I think you are wrong, I believe it is worth the change, I am now in the progress of trading my 19 plate to a 22 plate 310GS. One big reason for me is I also ride at night and the headlight is awful on my current bike, not only is the illumination poor, but riding behind friends they tell me the hopping headlight drives them mad...oh and the triple black colour scheme is amazing !
The electronic throttle makes the bike feel more responsive and the LED indicators make it a safer bike as you are seen better especially at roundabouts
I looked at many bikes prior to upgrading including the KTM390, Tiger 660 Sport and CB500X, but for me the 310GS is the most comfortable, agile and fun bike of the lot. The small turning cicle also comes in handy when manouvering in a tight spot...just wish they made the fuel capacity slightly larger
Thank Ian for the feedback. As I said, for me it is not worth it. You have a completely valid argument with the headlight. And if you ride a night a lot, then by all means! And yes, the new colours are amazing!
@@BrianCheyne I think that I'm with you on it not being worth the upgrade but then again I haven't rode either one of them so who really knows for sure.
Weeell, of course you are not gonna get a different bike by just replacing the 2020 with 2021, BUT there really is a huuuuge difference in control at low speed (eg on country roads or in heavy traffic) that makes 2021 substantially better in that part. As for the light - it’s not even worth mentioning. Many users never ride in the dark. The shaking problem can be easily solved by just adding rubber adsorbers around but even when it isn’t shaking - the light is still far below any standards and has to be replaced with an aftermarket solution.
You Should try to upgrade your suspension with a Hyperpro, I am a tall mann (195 cm) and i did that on my G310 GS and it runs perfect now. Hyperpro suspension is aroung 350€ for a full kit and it raises your bike with aprox 2 cm. This wil also help on your sidestand because the bike will lean over a little bit more when stand still.
Thanks Steen, but I think for the type of riding I do, I am going to stop adding things to my GS now. It is always an issue when you want to sell your bike further down the line, you never get your money back on all the accessories.
@@BrianCheyne it is often more benefitial to remove the accessories and sell them separately
Is Hyperpro the brand name. I'm just over 6 feet tall and thinking that I might need to raise the 310 a bit.
@@richardwestmoreland4796 the Hyperpro dont raise your bike, the subspesion just get harder and more stiff
The ABS button is an important feature for off-road, so I think your bike is better than the new one.
If I didn't have a KTM 390 Duke, I would buy a G 310 GS.
Hi its 2023 and I was considering the GS750 and the tiny windscreen put me off, does it actually work for you?
The 310 is slow enough that it is no problem! 😀
Interesting, because people are complaining about the new 310 stalling.
my 2019 doesn't stall nearly as easily as my Svartpilen did
A few months ago I rented a 2019 model 310gs while vacationing for a week of mixed riding - cities, highways, with some light off-road and found it to be a lot of fun. I agree about the stalling issue, compared to 850 I think I stalled the 310 more the first 2 days than any bike I've ever been on, but I did get use to it after a day or so. I enjoyed the versatility of this bike so much that when I came back home I bought a 2022 model to have fun with as a trail bike. The clutch and throttle on the new one is night and day difference -- you really have to TRY to stall the newer models. Such a fun bike. Nice review and comparison, your points are very accurate.
Brian what do you think about the shifts? My bike shifts like butter when its cold, but when the engine climbs to 80+ C degrees the gears are impossible.
You might need to have your bike checked. Mine did not behave like that.
@@BrianCheyne Could chain slack be the culprit?
But I shall have it checked out.
Hello Brian where did you get that luggage for your bike?
turkanagear.com/
Wish it was a 450cc at least
How are you liking the exhaust sound. Everyone says it's terrible. I didn't feel anything like that
Never bothered me. Not the sound, nor what other people think. :)
What about the vibrations at high speed? Did they fix that?
Still then same single cylinder engine, so no.
so do you think buying a used 2021 with 1000 miles to save $800 is worth it?
Ray, absolutely! Here is South Africa the preowned bikes are dirt cheap and absolutely worth it.
is it the 2021 modell or the 2022 that has fixed these issues ?
These updates were done from 2021.
I wish it competed better with the KTM 390….hard to justify getting the 310 instead…
I fully agree. Even bumping it to 350 would make a difference.
Not without ABS control….
well i can tell you one thing, you just sold me a G310GS 2022 motorcycle.
Hi, how tall are you? I'm 5'9 and planning to get this as my first bike.
I am 6'1", but the suspension sags quite a bit when you sit, so you should have no problem.
@@BrianCheyne thank you man, much appreciated. Thoughts on this as model as a first bike?
You want TC on a 300cc?
What about airbrakes? Ejection seat?
IS this the 2022 or 2023 model?
2022
@@BrianCheyne Thank you! There is one nearby in polar white that I think I will be buying next weekend! Gonna be cruising my FL town in style :)
how tall are you?
I am 184cm
There is a perfect motorcycle, it’s a 1250GS
now "sick" and "funky" mean good, degeneration in motion
I like quite a bit about what you have to say but you don't mention the years of the bikes that you are comparing nearly enough. Especially right from the start you need to say that you are comparing a specific year, make,and model to whatever year make and model you are comparing it to. You seem to be assuming that people who are watching have watched you before or already know some of the specifics of the bikes that you are comparing. I kept waiting for you to reiterate what two bikes you were comparing and then I waited some more. I know that you know what you are talking about now if you can just brush up on the details that are so important I might just subscribe.
Thank you for your feedback. There have just been two iterations of the G 310 GS. The launch model ( 2016-2020) and this updated version (2021-present). I was assuming that the riders of the first iteration might be considering the updated version, so those were the people I was targeting.
@@BrianCheyne I could tell that you were targeting riders that are more familiar with the two iterations that are available and riders that are more experienced than myself in general. I'm a newbie to motorcycles and not just to these two different versions of BMW's G 310 GS consequently so it is sometimes a bit of a tough go for me when a writer assumes a lot of things about motorcycles. I find myself having to read a comment several times when a writer has assumed anything. I could tell that you know much more about motorcycles than I probably ever will but I enjoyed the content of your piece and just thought that if you could make it a bit easier for newbies like me to understand it I might as well make a recommendation to you. Thanks for taking the time to explain your side of things.
Indian TVS... it is a joke they put a BMW badge on it.
let me subscribe u