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HX Stomp Tips: Use EXPRESSION and FOOT SWITCH at the same time!
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I have this exact same setup and I’m so glad you came out with this!!!
You’ve helped me get the most from the least gear, thank you man!
Glad to do it!
Congrats on 2 years, keep it up bro! This inspires me to keep going with it.
Thank you so much...I'll check out your channel!
congrats on your 2years anniversary!
great work :) keep it alive
Thank you very much! It's actually been a little over 4 year now!
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This is awesome, i just ordered the Dunlop expression pedal (using your referral link i believe) and I'm going to use it to control a kinky boost and amp gain levels so I can roll between clean crunch and lead tones. That'll free up FS1, FS2 and FS4 to control my reverb & delay effects
that's awesome!
Much love brother! You’re killing it!
Thank you so much!
I just sold my hx stomp setup. I used the stomp + mc6 + and my volume pedal. It went towards my quad cortex, because that thing costs 2 livers. I have a kemper as a main the hx was just a backup. I still use helix native.
haha!
Interesting stuff going on here. I always use the HX Edit software so I love watching people use the Stomp itself to pick up tips 'n tricks. I've had a stomp for a year and always feel confused by it when I try to mash button on it.
I know what you mean...I'm usually on HX Edit too.
I use a dual switch for moving up and down through my snapshots and really love how it works with the HX Stomp. I wondered if I could run an expression pedal on a Y trs cable, and it looks like I could ONLY if I opt to move one way through snapshots…that may work for me. Thanks for clarifying that only one tap would be usable in conjunction with the expression pedal.
Your videos are really helpful to me, as I only purchased the Stomp last month.
See my comment above.... or you could get a disaster area midi baby or midi baby 3. Converts the FS/DS to midi. So you could use the dual for up and down.. the 3 FS on the baby for snapshots or FS... and have another port for another exp or fs. Or you could just get the single button midi baby and it has one port. Could use it's button for tap/tempo and convert your dual switch.
Oh that's awesome man...you'll have a blast!
@@mattlynn6157 For dual switch for up and down I’ll be needing a cable (midi to ts)??
And for exp pedal to analog
(1TRS to 2TS)??
Appreciate your help dude.
Thanks
Congrats on 2 years bro!
Hey! Thanks man!! Good to see you on here! :)
Thank you!!
Welcome!
LOL this is the way my HX stomp is setup, except for one difference the second switch on my dual switch is actually a stutter switch which is between my left output and goes to my second head on left side of the stage. For more of a dynamic feel when playing live. Works great as a one guitar player. It's a momentary off switch that way I can hold it down in the beginning of songs to split the two cabinets. Most song start off with one guitar and the other guitar player comes in on the chokes and whatnot. Very easy to set up and very effective
That's awesome!
@@HeyWorshipLeader yeah it sounds awesome I can't wait to upgrade to two full stacks left and right side. Your Backline is everything. The look and the sound with the Ampeg 810 cabs on each side with the Marshalls automatically set you Head and Shoulders above most bands. And then you add the little stutter switch trick that I came up with it's pretty awesome like you said I've had a lot of people asking me are you playing with backing tracks how are you accomplishing this and then I explained and they are amazed at how simple it is. Alright buddy have a good one keep up the good work and God bless.
Thanks for the tip! Just a General question I’m trying to make sure if my stump it’s braking or that’s the way HX Stomp works. Sometimes I feel when I don’t press hard enough it doesn’t take the press command specially on first two switches. Anyone else experienced that?
Awesome... thanks for the quick response and dedication to the topic. I'm TH-cam famous now. HA. So I've been digging more and I'm considering getting a disaster area midi baby 3. I have a jet micro.. and sort of prefer the mcx even though I don't have any other midi pedals to control... but like the idea of customizing my buttons more than I can with the micro. BUT if I get the DA Midi baby 3, it does the same thing as the MCX as far as customizability goes, but also has TWO expression/FS 1/4" ports to add normal exp/fs adds and convert them into midi. SO point.. in slightly a larger footprint than the MCX... (for less $) I can use a dual switch and expressions (or more) through the midi baby 3. I might even get crazy. I'm considering having the dual switch, (2) mini exp, the midi baby and the jet micro. Why? Let me explain. Dual switch would be rotated in the vertical layout to go up and down between presets. The midi baby would be FS 4, 5 and 6. The jet micro would be.. what it normally is probably switching between snapshots. One expression(s) not 100% on.. but different level controls... wet/dry, gain.. or maybe just a vol. Anyway... have you looked into the midi baby3? Thoughts? Thanks again!
Dude! that would be killer...I haven't gotten my hands on one...but it seems legit
How about this… I’ll buy one and send it to you for your review and video then when you’re done you send it to me? Then I’ll know how to use it. Ha
Can I use dual switch ampero as up and down but the cable is midi to trs? Is it right? Then ill use the exp slot for volume pedal?
someone new to guitar should get the board , but........i only have the boss kitana and no pedals to alter and change my sound that i honestly are still searching for. Either way god bless you for this and what you do thank you and good luck to everyone , later guys..
Thanks so much...good luck on Friday!
Using this same setup, can I control a wah model on the expression pedal and then assign tap tempo and bypass/tuner for each switch on the Dual Footswitch?
Guys does anyone knows how to set the expression pedal so that when heeled, the effect is turned off and only turn on when the pedal is toed.
I find it very useful for gain control for example. I have it set up on one of my presets but can’t reproduce it on others 😅
What would i do without you?! Thanks!
Does this solution can works with Ampero II Stomp?
I love you channel , its help me a lot with my hx!! One Question using the dunlop mini volume, its a passive pedal or it needs a power supply ?
Thank you so much! It is passive and does not need a power supply
Have emailed you regarding routing a dual switch and a expression / volume pedal at same time using a midi foot switch expression input in order to achieve this? Hope you can help cheers 👍
I have an Ernie Ball VPJR that I want to use as an expression pedal, and also another footswitch. Is it possible to do that connection? I read some tutorials to do the connection with the VPJR but all of them uses both cables, so there is no room for the footswitch. Thanks!
I have a single switch with and a mission expression pedal. i set it up the way you showed. the exspression pedal works but the single switch does nothing. when i hook the switch up by itself it works fine but i use the the tip and heal to use both the switch no longer works. if you could explain i would appreciate it
Hello all you gear heads out there! Here is how I get the ultimate control out of my Hx Stomp without sacrificing any of your opinion. I connect my Meloaudio midi commander via midi cable to Hx Stomp (You can update the firmware of midi commander to include Hx Stomp mode) and then plug double foot switch 4 and 5 directly to the Hx Stomp and then I connect M-Audio expression pedal to the midi commander instead of Hx Stomp. This way on midi commander I have bank up and down, patches A, B, C and 3 snapshots for each preset, tuner switch and bypass switch. Then I have foot switch 1,2,3 on Hx stomp and 4 and 5 on double foot switch which I use them for effects on/off and also an expression pedal all under my foot!! This means that I have all 3 mods (preset mode, snapshot mode and stomp mode) all at once under my foot for the total of 15 foot switches and one expression pedal. I know it may sound complicated but the whole thing is actually half of the footprint of my previous analog pedal board and way lighter and more portable that it.
That's awesome!
Thanks for the tips! I’ll have to try this once I purchase the stomp, my midi commander been collecting dust lol
Pretty smart guy.
Hello, old post but I'm curious:
I noticed that the HX Stomp firmware for the MIDI Commander has MIDI CC 52 set to footswitch 4/E. This sends the command to the HX Stomp to emulate FS4. So that means having an extra dual footswitch connected directly on the Stomp will not completely maximize its use, because the MIDI Commander's button 4/E will have the same exact function as one of the buttons for your dual footswitch (FS4). Have you found a way to edit the command that is set to button 4/E so that it sends a different CC, e.g. 70 for All Bypass?
@@KenJ79 that’s correct. I have the same issue with duplicated switch but that would be a small price to pay as you get more than enough control under your feet.
Hope I get to win that giveaway🔥🔥🔥🎸
Next time!
Zoom out so we can see the cables hooked up.
Great video. Always super helpful and very well done. No you are NOT awkward at all! Seriously....however, do you think you could have shown that fancy pedal board any faster? I paused the video and it was STILL blurry!! Yes...I am busting your chops. Keep it up. Thanks!!
Haha! I appreciated it man!
Greetings from Poland
glad you're here
how about footswitch 5?
Hi Thanks for this master class. I understand that with this configuration, when powering the dual switch with the TS cable, it is impossible to use the 2 buttons and you can only play with one of them, right?
yeah...this video thumbnail was a little miss leading...you can only use 2 things at once...so one switch and one expression. Or both switches.
Awesome, thank you. Quick question: I bought a HeadRush expression pedal with a built in toe switch to toggle between wah & volume (i.e. like PodGo & Helix Floor "treadals" do). However, apparently HXFX will not support this feature/function. I may return the HR pedal however, I was wondering if maybe I could program the HXFX to accept or receive
the toe switch for some other latching or momentary function (i.e. switch channels on my external amp, midi command, etc)? Any idea if the toe switch can be assigned to do a second assignment? Hopefully someone can help. Thank you!
You'd need to come out of the pedal via a try split y cable and go into each of the EXP. Then set one of the EXP to adjust both volume and wah. The other set to toggle each effect on and off. When one goes off the other comes on and vice versa...does that help?
helpfull indeed! does this work for the ampero stomp ii as well?
not sure
I’m looking for a dual switch for the stomp witch one do you recommend? Mostly, Aux2AE by analogendeavors, rockstock?or any other?
Mosky is the one I have and was only like $20
Tengo una duda, cualquier cable TIP , RING sirve oara usar un pedal de volumen y un dual switchs?
Mire un cable en amazon y quisiera saber si ese xable me sirve para hacer lo mismo que tu hiciste
Hosa STP-201RR Right-Angle 1/4 inch TRS to Dual Right-Angle 1/4 inch TS Insert Cable, 3.3 feet
It can only be used with expression and ONE foot switch. Not two. There are only 2 channels (Tip and Ring) to send signals.
Sorry if this has already been asked, but can that DVP4 function as either a volume or wah depending on what you have it assigned to? In other words, in a patch with a wah block, you simply assign it to that, then in another patch, you assign it to a volume block or channel level(if you wanted to save a block)? I'm thinking it's a yes.
That's correct!
@Hey Worship Leader pretty sure you could do both in 1 preset using 1 button to switch on / off a volume and wah block simultaneously. You may also be able to set up a button to toggle between expression 1 and 2, but have the Dunlop do both expression signals. In that case, you could get more creative. Maybe set up an expression to control the master level of an amp block and another to do the wah. That could save a volume block and give you wah control on 1 preset. Not 100% sure if this would work, but it's something to explore.
Could this setup work on a HX Effects pitch shifter to have a single patch that go an octave down on the expression pedal, then hit the foot switch to make it an octave up instead?
Also could it be used to activate additional effects within a single patch?
I haven't tried this, but I know you can't assign multiple switches to the same parameter. But there would be a work around using the "Dual Pitch." Set both to work with the Expression and then assign a Switch to bring up and down the volume of each...does that make sense?
Hi, Thank you for your Tips for the EXPRESSION.
Do you know how to set the Melo Audio EXP-001 Volume Expression on the HX Stomp?
Because I don't set it. 😂
I don't have experience with that one...but should be the same. Let me know if you have problems
@@HeyWorshipLeader Yeah！I can do it now! it's working. Thank you for your video.🙏🏻
Can anyone Link the Cable that you can use? I can't see it in his bio in the gear section
EBS TRS Y Split Cable for HX Stomp Stereo FX Loop or EXPRESSION/Foot Switch: amzn.to/34imYKQ
So for my understanding point is (and I know this vid is little bit old but still in 2021 even though it is the 2d or 3rd day of 2022 that you read this) the fact that with the tip and ring you can only use fs4 and not 5 or is it the other way around. Because you are emulating the Dunlop mini to FS4 or 5 and when you do you could use one of the 2 that have that with the 2 way switchers?!
One of the things about this video that I cleared up in another video is that I didn't have a single foot switch, so I used a dual in this video, which made it seem misleading. You can only emulated fs4 and fs5 and then your done. SO you can't use a dual AND Expression at the same time.
Thanks for your videos about expression pedals and the HX Stomp! Helped me a ton, especially your tip about the tip/ring switch inside the Dunlop pedal.
I'm still getting into all of this and a bit confused about the TRS/TS cable. In a previous video where you're only using the Dunlop expression pedal, you recommended using a TRS cable. In this video where you are adding the extra footswitch, you're using the Y cable. Are you losing any functionality with the expression pedal when it's just attached to the tip or ring portion of a Y cable instead of a dedicated TRS cable? I may add a footswitch in the future, but already have a Y cable and expression. Do I need TRS in the meantime?
You are correct. In the previous video I didn't fully understand...or at least got confused. You can use a TS cable and just make sure that whatever effect parameter you are assigning to Expression...that you remember which exp (1 or 2) and make sure the global settings are set up correctly. Let's say I only want to do 1 thing...bring up and down gain using expression...I'll go to the "Bypass/Controller Assign" and assign it to EXP 1 (or EXP 2...doesn't matter) and then in my global settings under "Preferences" make sure that "Tip is set to EXP 1" or "Ring is set to EXP 2" then you'll be good to go...if the sweep of the parameter is backwards heel to toe, then go back to "Preferences" and "invert" the Tip or Ring (whichever you are using) Hope that makes better sense
I have a proline expression and a boss fs5u with a 2 trs female to 1 trs male, i can’t seem to get both pedals to work together.
You need something like this: amzn.to/34imYKQ
1 TRS to come out of the Stereo Send > to 2 TS to go back into the Left and Right returns
Might be a silly question, but Can that expression slot also be used as a tap tempo along with the dual switch?
No...but you can send a midi message to do tap tempo if you have a midi controller
Thanks!
CURVEBALL QUESTION - I’m using a similar setup with a single switch. I’ve studied this and other videos. Here’s the weird part - When I set a min and max on my Dunlop Mini (DVP4), the min happens at the 0 position AND the 100% position, and the max happens in the middle at 50%. Inverting swaps that. Any ideas?
This video will fix it: th-cam.com/video/robh4H5VhuE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LOEXIAterhNfELcP
Also this short: th-cam.com/users/shortsJWAYZy_FfEU?si=YDN_N7656TqIstcV
I feel like there needs to be a bit more awareness of the fact that BOTH buttons on the "dual" footswitch will NOT work with this setup. Only one button will. You get a ring and a tip...not two of either.
If I am mistaken, I would love to be corrected! Otherwise, I'll be trading in my dual switch for a SINGLE switch that I can wire up with ring or tip.
Very helpful, only problem I’ve had is that exp pedal will sweep from 0-10-0 meaning foot all way back 0, in middle of sweep 10, & toe down 0
Anyone else ever experienced this?
th-cam.com/users/shortsJWAYZy_FfEU?feature=share
no dips in this Mission exp, works fine except when I try it with the Ampero dual switch
I do TRS tip ring split, but can't seem to get the sweep correct
HMM
Hi, quick Q - can I use the JET micro as well as this TRS split into one switch and EXP? At the moment it seems my footswitch is stuck to FS5 which is the same as the JET B/C - Preset up. I can't seem to change this
Hey man! There's a solution now...here's the details from Jet Pedals Website:
"Line 6 has created a midi message for preset scrolling! Now you can take full advantage of the rear expression port to use both an expression pedal as well as an external footswitch while also using the Micro to scroll presets up/down. If purchasing the Micro after 4.24.21 you must update the software on your HX Stomp to 3.11 or later."
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thanks for your reply. Ah ha so there is hope... I will delve into it again and see if I can separate the TRS switch from the JET scroll function.
wow dream pedals,expensive pedals!😢
How can I use 2 switch at the same time I used expression pedal? 😢
You can only use one. This was a misleading (unintentional as that's the only external pedal I had) Thumbnail. You can only do 2 things. 1 switch and 1 expression, 2 switch, or 2 expression
But can you use both Footswitches and the Expression?
sadly, no...I already changed the title to this video a while back but need to update this thumbnail...I only used the "dual switch" in the photo because that's all I had. The purpose of the video was to show the settings for foot switch and expression at the same time.
For some reason I can’t get FS5 on my dual switch to work when I run both exp pedal and Footswitch together.. can anyone help me out? 😅
that's my bad for making it look like that was possible in this video...I wish I had a single foot switch...but I just used what I had to make the video....and then later realized that it looks like I'm saying you can use a dual switch and expression at the same time...and that's not true. Sorry for the confusion.
But with this configuration you cant use both buttons on the dual footswitch righ ? Just one button ?
Correct...I had to update the thumbnail a while back...I didn't mean to lead people into thinking we could...it's just the only footswtich I had around at the time
@@HeyWorshipLeader Cool, thanks!
Why not just get a smaller single switch if you can only ever use one of them when using an expression pedal?
You’re right. I failed to address that in this video but did in a following video
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Nice!
Great Video: Just wondering do you have any videos or expansion packs for Bass players with the HX Stomp. Thanks
I don't have any directly related to only bass at this time...but maybe soon because more people are asking for them
@@HeyWorshipLeader Thanks I'll stay tuned. 👍🏿👍🏿
Can anyone can provide the link to that split cable?
EBS TRS Y Split Cable for HX Stomp Stereo FX Loop: amzn.to/34imYKQ
@@HeyWorshipLeader This would work right? I'm not sure if it's exactly the same cable. thanks! www.thomann.de/fr/ebs_icy_30_y_insert_flat_cable.htm
how about footswitch 5?
The EXP takes both or either tip and ring, and then you can use either foot switch 4 or 5...but there's only Tip and Ring...so only 2 options...hope that makes sense