You also have to take into consideration that Climo had a real job framing houses for decades, and Stokley never put his body through that kind of wear and tear. Stokley is awesome, but Climo is the king:).
@@IceBergTVin his last Livestream, Stokely said he hasn't held a regular job since starting his disc career. He sure is putting the work in with Stokely discs! The Cardinal is Amazing
I could be mistaken but I believe CR Willey is also from Clearwater and him and Climo go way back.. worlds doubles champions together before anyone knew who Climo was, the year before he went on his insane run
Everyone thinks Innova is cheap, I think they are the smartest run company. They are not getting hammered by all the big contracts that every other company is facing right now.
If a disc golfer is selling your discs they deserve to get payed for it relative to how many discs they move and how much good will they generate. It seems Innova could have used Climo's status as (one of) the best ever to promote them more--to be an ambassador for the sport--but they seem to not have wanted to spend the money and have chosen not to. On the other hand, it could have something to do with Ken. He sometimes seems like Disc Golf owes him something, and I don't necessarily disagree with that idea. What is this mystery deal for Ken? We may eventually hear the story.
Didn't Climo cash out his royalties on his branded discs. So no more check from disc sales... If so swapping to another brand could be a new lease on some potential licensing.👍
I don't know about this: commenting on commentary. I would think you're supposed to come up with you own ideas. Instead, we get many weak and unsupported assertions. You don't seem like you know much about Climo and Disc Golf history in general.
Wraith is top 5-10% of the worst? I am guessing that was a joke, it was #1 in percentage of sales on Infinite Discs website for distance drivers in 2023 and 2024 and I am pretty sure that is not a new trend. Even Kenny bagged several of them and I have many signature Wraiths from other touring pros, GG being my fav. Kind of curious if you were joking, it was a misspeak or you just have a crazy bias - I know I do for most Innova drivers.
I not saying you are, but I think it’s unfair to criticize Ken for not being super involved in the sport. We never know what’s happening in people’s lives or what they are dealing with. I have ADHD and would struggle doing what McBeth is doing. Plus Ken work construction for years while playing at the top of the sports. That’s got to have both a physical and mental toll.
whats worse than a iceberg video and discgolfworld video, both of them together in the same video, sounding like a group of stoned middle schooler gossiping out their asses
you are such a hater, "climos line will be nothing like the simon line". you literally live underneath simons right testicle just for views. you would put them in your mouth if hed let you for views.
If Innova had paid him right he wouldn't have left. The word is that they paid him a flat fee to use his name and didn't want to renegotiate. I wonder how much Dave pays homself for the hard work of others.
The Destroyer is just a faster Wraith. And Innova is the most inconsistent manufacturer out there. How many different variant Destroyer's are out there? If they actually had a standard they would have to regrind more than 50% of what they make. I don't know about you, but I'm tired of hunting for good Innova only to be let down by their poor QC.
You also have to take into consideration that Climo had a real job framing houses for decades, and Stokley never put his body through that kind of wear and tear. Stokley is awesome, but Climo is the king:).
@@bergsdiscsports3482 that's valid! I don't actually know stokelys work history
@@IceBergTVin his last Livestream, Stokely said he hasn't held a regular job since starting his disc career. He sure is putting the work in with Stokely discs! The Cardinal is Amazing
I’m just grateful to have guys like Scott involved as mush as he is with Disc golf. We need Ken to have that same visibility
I heard Climo's relationship with Innova hit an iron leaf...
"Didn't get up & down"
an iron fucking leaf hahaha
Ron Russell won worlds in 99, stopping ken at 9, and his pdga is 9999. With 5 discs in his bag
CR is from Clearwater
I think this means Ken Climo will be more active in the sport community.
Climo with Stokely manufacturing would be really great to see.
I could be mistaken but I believe CR Willey is also from Clearwater and him and Climo go way back.. worlds doubles champions together before anyone knew who Climo was, the year before he went on his insane run
Everyone thinks Innova is cheap, I think they are the smartest run company. They are not getting hammered by all the big contracts that every other company is facing right now.
They take the "slow and steady" approach when it comes to business.
If a disc golfer is selling your discs they deserve to get payed for it relative to how many discs they move and how much good will they generate. It seems Innova could have used Climo's status as (one of) the best ever to promote them more--to be an ambassador for the sport--but they seem to not have wanted to spend the money and have chosen not to. On the other hand, it could have something to do with Ken. He sometimes seems like Disc Golf owes him something, and I don't necessarily disagree with that idea. What is this mystery deal for Ken? We may eventually hear the story.
Didn't Climo cash out his royalties on his branded discs. So no more check from disc sales... If so swapping to another brand could be a new lease on some potential licensing.👍
I don't know about this: commenting on commentary. I would think you're supposed to come up with you own ideas. Instead, we get many weak and unsupported assertions. You don't seem like you know much about Climo and Disc Golf history in general.
Wraith is top 5-10% of the worst? I am guessing that was a joke, it was #1 in percentage of sales on Infinite Discs website for distance drivers in 2023 and 2024 and I am pretty sure that is not a new trend. Even Kenny bagged several of them and I have many signature Wraiths from other touring pros, GG being my fav. Kind of curious if you were joking, it was a misspeak or you just have a crazy bias - I know I do for most Innova drivers.
No I think the wraith is a top 5-10 driver all time. Sorry if I was unclear
top 5 to top 10 AT absolute worst
Its finally time for CH Glow Aviars
Heimbug about to get PAID on the rebrand.
Paul Mcbeth's is going to get Ken Climo Paid.
I not saying you are, but I think it’s unfair to criticize Ken for not being super involved in the sport. We never know what’s happening in people’s lives or what they are dealing with.
I have ADHD and would struggle doing what McBeth is doing. Plus Ken work construction for years while playing at the top of the sports. That’s got to have both a physical and mental toll.
Upgrade to Windows 11 already
Id use windows 1 if I could, leave me alone
So when are we getting an Iceberg TV apex legends video?
@@knowerofnone i used to have a gaming channel but I stopped doing that. I just play for fun now! Almost masters this season
Guy who hasn't played a pdga event since 2017, who else offered him a contract
foot fault
Vintage great idea 💡
Thanks!!!
Ken hasn't worked a 9-5 in 20 + years
whats worse than a iceberg video and discgolfworld video, both of them together in the same video, sounding like a group of stoned middle schooler gossiping out their asses
you are such a hater, "climos line will be nothing like the simon line". you literally live underneath simons right testicle just for views. you would put them in your mouth if hed let you for views.
Thanks for watching :)
Iceberg is fine but I can’t STAND the disc golf world.
@garnerthecube hahaha thanks mayne
@Just.Joshin let's see your disc golf content!
If Innova had paid him right he wouldn't have left. The word is that they paid him a flat fee to use his name and didn't want to renegotiate. I wonder how much Dave pays homself for the hard work of others.
The Destroyer is just a faster Wraith. And Innova is the most inconsistent manufacturer out there. How many different variant Destroyer's are out there? If they actually had a standard they would have to regrind more than 50% of what they make. I don't know about you, but I'm tired of hunting for good Innova only to be let down by their poor QC.