There really aren't that many: Men, Elves, Dwarves, Hobbits, Ents = 5 Orcs - does that count as one, or are we counting different breeds of orcs separately? Let's call it 5 types. Trolls, Huorns, Giants (briefly mentioned in The Hobbit, but never really seen) = 3 Beornings - are they a separate creature from Men? Eagles Balrogs Dragons Fell Beasts, Wargs, Oliphaunts (Mumakil) = 3 The Watcher in the Water The "ghosts" or whatever you want to call them from the Paths of the Dead Nazgul Barrow Wight Does Tom Bombadil count as a separate type of creature? Same as Goldberry? That's a total of 25. Did I leave any out? And 6 of those don't appear in these movies. And 3 don't appear in either the LotR or Hobbit movies.
Yep, depends on how you count them... :-) Men, Hobbits (essentially an offshoot of Men), Elves (cousins to Men), Dwarves, Ents (spoiler !), some implied offshoots of Men (Woses, Beornings/skinchangers), etc. Orcs were derived from Elves and Men, apparently, and there are "goblin" versions of them and the big uruk-hai. Trolls are somewhat intelligent, but animal-like. some animals and creatures were enslaved by Sauron (and his previous boss). Ringwraiths are the surviving spirits of Sauron-corrupted Men. Maiar (lower-tier Ainur, supernatural beings) include Sauron, the wizards (Istari), the balrogs, the Great Eagles and the (talking) dragons (though I'm not 100 % sure about the last one, Tolkien made the exact origin of dragons vague). The Valar are mentioned, but we don't see them.
@@ZemplinTemplar Heh, this reminds me of when we were supposed to present/explain a book to our class. (late elementary, so 14-15 years old I guess.) Anyway, I started digging my hole with describing the basic races and Maiar. Then I just kept digging. I probably could have talked ""nonsense"" for the entire hour, so the teacher had to shut me up and send me to sit back down. :D
@@PhilBagels are we counting the silmarillion? Because you need to include ainur (though that includes wizards and balrogs) vampires (also maybe ainur?), werewolves. You also missed the spider creatures.
read the bock after the war on that shen on mount doom outsude you have a army large army of man who elfs canot compear whit it and it whill ended bloody bad and undaying hatret betven 2 rases , evry one whit working 2 sels on they brain can solv that , is it not ?
“Natalie finds out that almost everything in Harry Potter was inspired by Lord of the Rings” Edit: Chill tf out, it wasn’t stolen. Tolkien is the most influential fantasy writer of the century, and directly inspired almost every modern fantasy film and novel known. Most of the similarities between Harry Potter and LotR are merely surface level and aren’t indicative of thievery.
@@lelandbacon1253 That's a silly way to look at it. All media is built upon that which came before it. LotR has been a major influence on almost all fantasy to come after it.
Basically *all* fantasy as we know it today comes from LotR. Anything with Elves, or Dragons, or Orcs, or Wizards, etc. Every single fantasy trope that exists in "fantasy literature" originated with LotR.
Ah, to live a Hobbit's life. Easy going, good food, good people, parties and drinking under the Party Tree and none of those nasty adventures that make you late for supper.
@@Vehuelmikael as James MacLennan said the first book wasn't released until 1954 therefore the lord of the rings/the hobbit is on the verge of 66 (the star wars number) next month and not 103 therefore it didn't exist before 1954 and the original Godzilla was also released in 1954 so Godzilla is also 66
Actually, it's more like Voldemort is Sauron. Tolkien basically invented a whole host of fantasy tropes, among them the soul-bound artifact that ensures its master survives death.
The One Ring was actually stolen from the Soliman's Ring. Everyone likes to say fantasy is based on LotR but almost nothing in LotR is actually original either.
"among them the soul-bound artifact that ensures its master survives death." He definitely didn't invent that. There are plenty of fairy tales and folklore, specifically The Death of Koschei the Deathless, where the entire premise is that a soul-bound artifact ensures the master is immortal, also Cú Roí Mac Dáire in Irish mythology, A Tale of Two Brothers in Egyptian mythology, and plenty more. It was a common trope that Tolkien did not invent -- Tolkien didn't invent nearly as much as is constantly ascribed to him.
@@inventsable Fair point, perhaps I was hasty in ascribing those things to him. I'm well aware he got an incredible amount of inspiration from European folklore and mythology. What I probably should have said was he popularized those fantasy tropes, making more than just mythology/folklore enthusiasts aware of them.
I don't think Harry Potter and LOTR are directly comparable in any way. They are very different stories that both make use of fantastical creates and tropes that are older than either of them, rooted in myth and folklore. I don't actually see any directly obvious influence of LOTR on Harry Potter.
Fun Facts: the languages that the Elves and Orcs and Ringwraiths are speaking are not just some gibberish,but fully developed languages,complete with grammar and syntax and everything,created by Professor.Tolkien,who was an expert in languages. He's also considered the ''father of modern fantasy literature'',because everyone and their mother has ripped off ideas from his works.
@@mogaman28 and others but jea one could guess she basically threw LotR and Naruto together and mix it all up nice with some other stuff and tadaa harry potter :P just a guess with no basis at all...
Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took was the tallest hobbit ever recorded until this point in "history". He was 4'5'', some say he was real enough to ride a horse.
Those are two VERY different fantasy universes with vastly different rulesets. If the killing curse works as advertised on Sauron this will be over very quickly. If it doesn't...well, it will be over very quickly also.
@@sabakka-e5u The thing this if I understand it correctly, the killing curse does nothing to your body. It just sort of makes your soul leave your body - and since Maya have total control over their body and soul (as long as no higher being commands otherwise) he should not be affected by it.
FYI: Tolkien is the Father of modern Fantasy. He drew inspiration from mythology and made a mythology. This trilogy barely scratches the surface of his work. Modern Fantasy draws inspiration from him - either directly or indirectly.
When i first got into Tolkien, I kept saying things like, oh this has this or that fantasy type of thing in it, that’s neat. Then I found out that most of those things CAME from Tolkien, not that they were just also in Tolkien’s work. Such a genius. Love it.
@@elzar760 I've been seeing this with a lot of reactors who seem to know high fantasy mostly from games. Our modern idea of elves and dwarves came from Tolkien, as well as orcs in general--completely his creation. It's fun seeing people discover the roots of the genre. The only thing that annoys me sometimes is if someone complains that Gandalf isn't shooting fireballs and lightning bolts every scene.
@@elzar760 He did borrow some things from mythology and based several things in the story on experiences in his life. I do agree he was a genius and created a very detailed and interesting world that inspired so many fantasy writers to this day. George R.R. Martin for example is a huge fan and said Tolkien greatly inspired his work.
Aloysius Whiteboat I have seen a bit of that as well. People being frustrated that he’s not shooting fireballs as soon as his 3 second cool down is over.
What makes him even more badass is that the Weathertop fight with the Wraiths was Viggo Mortensen's first day on set and he'd only learnt the choreography for the fight about an hour before shooting. So, yeah. The term badass doesn't do him justice
Ain't going to lie, but it actually hurts my heart that you know Harry Potter but not Lord of the Rings. C.S Lewis (Chronicles of Narnia) and JRR Tolkien (LotR, The Hobbit) created the fantasy genre as we know it. They got together with their friends in the University Pub (They called themselves "The Inklings") and shared all of this together. As ridiculously popular as Harry Potter is, it owes everything to Tolkien and Lewis.
"It actually hurts my heart that you know Harry Potter but not Lord of the Rings." So the world is going to unfold and blossom a bit for her. And that is an encouraging thought.
While this is true, Harry Potter does deserve recognition in it's own right for doing something magical pretty much not done before. It got a whole generation to read. Like pre harry potter most kids I knew did not read much if at all. (I grew up on harry potter being 11 when I saw the first movie in cinema) Then Harry potter happend and every single class mate and friend of mine started to read. It was crazy. Harry Potter brought reading back to a generation that fell out of love with reading. Whatever people may think of the books, they did that.
@@amberanime - Nice point. Kids as young as six years old reading 600-page Potter books. www.statista.com/statistics/689693/kids-read-harry-potter-books-by-age-group/
Aragorn grew up in Rivendell, which had one of the greatest elvish libraries in the world. And he also spent decades out in the wilderness alone, living off the land, learning survival skills and fighting to keep people (like the villagers in Bree) safe. So he's got knowledge, wisdom, and skill far beyond what most men could acquire.
@@colleenross8752 Has lived multiple "lives". He changes his name periodically, and lives a new life. For example, he was a Knight of Rohan and Gondor at different times, a ranger multiple times.
@@kingjellybean9795 I don't believe Arwen actually met him before he was an adult; IIRC, she was off visiting Grandma Galadriel for a couple decades. When he first spotted her, he thought he was having a vision of Luthien Tinuviel.
actualy Sauron is so different than Voldemort :) When we think of it : Voldemort was a mortal who could done anything to achieve immortality (by dark magic) and used his allies IMO by promising them sharing this immortality with them. Voldemort learned how to use magic. Voldemort tried to invade and destroy one school :) Sauron was immortal spirit himself. He had no need for immortality. The Ring "offers" immortality only to mortals who use it. Its only its side effect upon mortals. Saurons magic was high above Voldemorts abilities and it was part of him, not smt to be learned. He promised kings of Numenor to help them to achieve immortality by invading Valinor - immortals land. He used them by the same promise like Voldemort his allies but I think thats the only similarity between them. Saurons ring was not a horcrux. A horcrux was only a box for part of the soul and the Ring was a tool to dominate wills and thoughts of the rulers of other Rings. The mind control device.
Voldemort is just some guy who discovered some old dark magic and tried to make himself immortal. Sauron has been around since creation, he's an immortal spirit, his "master" was Melkor who literally created mountain ranges and caves and reshaped the world in the olden olden olden days. They are not comparable lol
Boromir is such a well written character. Every single scene he has contributes to his arc. He is very selfless actually. It’s only that the ring is corrupting him. He needs it for reasons you will see in the second movie.
He's the most human, for better or worse. Dont know the source material but love the movies and i believe the character has a beautiful arc and sets up his brother's nicely.
An important part of understanding The Lord of The Rings, is to consider that Tolkein grew up in relatively rural England, and went off to fight in the first world war, that saw the first introductions of tanks. Tolkein was writing about the horrors of war and the loss of innocence in rural England. The Hobbits and the shire represent the happier times of Tolkein's youth - parties, food and ale. The Orcs represent a mechanised German army hell bent on destruction, including the tearing down of ancient forests to power the production facilities
Actually, I think Lord of the Ringgs represents WWII. While your right about his life, he wote LOR to his son, while Christopher was serving in WWII. Of course there is also the ancient myths he learned in college.
An important part of understanding lotr is that it's NOT allegorical. Nothing represents anything in real life. There are lots of influences, but not direct representation. Tolkien intended his Legendarium to be entertainment.
@@AngelusBrady No, its not. It. Is. Not. An. Allegory. There are lots of real world influences, but that's not the same thing. Anyone who calls it an allegory is projecting.
"How old can elves get?" They can't die unless they are killed. Galadriel, who's one of the elves you'll see in the next part, is over 10,000 years old. She's so old, that she's older than the sun and the moon. That's actually not an exaggeration, she was actually born before the sun and the moon were made.
The oldest elf in middle earth at the time of the war of the ring is Cirdan the shipwright who was present in the beginning of the first age. He is present at the end of LOTR the return of the King at the coronation. He is the blonde elf smiling behind Arwen.
@@Phi1618033 I don't think that's accurate. A lot of people dispute that and calculate her age to be between 8000 and 9000 years old. However Cirdan is certainly older.
also they can never really "die", because when they die they just reincarnate (if willing). they can also forfeit their immortality, like Luthien when she asked Eru Iluvatar to stay with her beloved with the condition that both of them became mortals.
Still one of my favorite scenes of all time. Gandalf gets pissed, draws all light out of the room and it seems to shrink around him and his voice just booms! So epic! A kinda subtle way to demonstrate his power right away.
I scream this all the time at movies when the hero grabs something then makes a dash to escape running a virtual gauntlet or obstacles but STILL KEEPS THE THING IN THEIR HAND!! Put it in a pocket for the love of Mike!
I just saw Elijah say that during the beginning of the first movie, he had celebrated his 19th birthday. He arrived a few months early with some of the other "Hobbits: during weather delays and location finding in New Zealand. The rest of the hobbits were several years older, although, in the book, Frodo is supposed to be middle aged, and Merry is supposed to be a teenager. Probably the most incredible trilogy ever.
Natalie, here's some aide in your questions that need answering: -A typical Hobbit can live up to 100. Since Bilbo had the One Ring, it allowed him to live much longer. -Most hobbits grow up to be about 3 feet 6 inches. -Elijah Wood was 18 when he started filming for Lord of the Rings. -Gandalf was uncertain about the identity of the ring that Bilbo gave to Frodo. -The One Ring predates the concept of Horcruxes, as Lord of the Rings was written 1937-1949. -Trivia: the scene where Strider fights the Wraiths, was Viggo Mortensen's first day on set. He was a last-minute replacement for another actor. -There's a lot of ancient folklore, which might've inspired Tolkien, that evil creatures are often barred from crossing running water. -Yes, the elves of Middle-earth are immortal (and spiritually bound to the physical world), unless they are killed or die of heartbreak. Elrond is about 6500 years old, but Galadriel is at least 8300 years old. -Elrond didn't throw Isildur into the lava for a couple of reasons: the One Ring is extremely powerful inside Mount Doom, and completely consumed Isildur. Elrond would not be able to overcome either. Plus, he would be assassinating the king of his allies, who have thousands of soldiers waiting outside the mountain. -The necklace Arwen gives Aragorn is more symbolic of her promise to give up her immortality so that she can stay in Middle-earth. -I believe that only Frodo can hear the Ring. As you can see already, he has a connection with it. -There is a lot of bad blood between Elves and Dwarves. The fathers of Gimli and Legolas were once at odds. -Frodo asking about the direction to Mordor shows Frodo's innocence and lack of awareness of just how big the world is outside the Shire.
Indeed. Though, in regards to the idea of horcruxes, pretty much the same thing can be seen in the tales of Koschei the Immortal and other similar tales, i.e. where the soul or life force of the villain (and his only weakness) is hidden inside a jewel, inside an egg, inside a pigeon, inside a hare, inside a big fish and so on. The main difference is that Rowling's horcruxes are created specifically through murder, while the folk/fairy tales generally don't go into quite such details of magic and its origins.
"The necklace Arwen gives Aragorn is more symbolic of her promise to give up her immortality so that she can stay in Middle-earth." As a kid I thought it was the necklace that gave her immortality, so I thought that it made Aragorn immortal in turn.
A typical Hobbit can live up to 100. More like 100 for them was like 70 for us :) And they could live to 130. So 130 was like our 100 :) -Lord of the Rings was written 1937-1949. More like 1939 - 1954 the first part was published in 1954. the two next in 55. -Trivia: the scene where Strider fights the Wraiths, was Viggo Mortensen's first day on set. He was a last-minute replacement for another actor. -There's a lot of ancient folklore, which might've inspired Tolkien, that evil creatures are often barred from crossing running water. its typical that wraith like monsters - any undead or black-magic products - should fear running water but also fire, bc water and fire were sacred elements of life. thats why Strider fights with them with firebrands and thats why in the book they were sorounded by river and by guys with firebrands on the bank of the river - that is why the wraiths dont run from the river in the book, and that is why it seems so strange why they dont run from the river in the movie :) that is bc in the book on the banks stood Aragorn, the hobbits and the powerful elven lord Glorfindel with firebrands. In the book Frodo crossed the river by himself on Glorfindels horse. -Elrond didn't throw Isildur into the lava for a couple of reasons: the One Ring is extremely powerful inside Mount Doom, and completely consumed Isildur. Elrond would not be able to overcome either. Plus, he would be assassinating the king of his allies, who have thousands of soldiers waiting outside the mountain. The other one could be also that Elrond believed in free will, free choice and didnt want to force Isildur into lava. -The necklace Arwen gives Aragorn is more symbolic of her promise to give up her immortality so that she can stay in Middle-earth. This necklace appears only in the movie. In the book Arwen gaves white gem on the necklace to Frodo but for entirely different reasons. -Frodo asking about the direction to Mordor shows Frodo's innocence and lack of awareness of just how big the world is outside the Shire But only in the movies :) In the book Frodo was one of very few hobbits who known elven languages and the best educated person in the Shire. In the book Frodo and Gandalf and Elrond also spend some time over maps making plans for their route :)
I agree 100%. However, in my opinion, I think the music in Star Wars is better than LOTR. Don't get me wrong, I adore Shire and Battle themes I listen to them for hours. I just think the scores in Star Wars are a bit more epic.
Although I’d say I like the actual star wars universe more than the lotr universe. No Star Wars movie will ever compete with a lotr movie. The storytelling, world building, and emotions are unrivaled. So good.
"Its a horcrux! Sauron is Voldemort, and the ring is a Horcrux." Well, yes... No, the opposite actually. Ps: Gimli aint racist. The elves and dwarves were friends, but they have a blood feud for a couple of thousands of years now. Long story, super jewels, labor disagreement, an elven king dead, that sort of thing.
I remember when this was about to come out I had never read any of these books before so I went to the book store and bought Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers and Return of the King and got hooked right away. I read all three books in a week. My life basically went: wake up at 8AM, read, go to school (college)/work, read on lunch, get home read from 6 pm till 1AM, sleep, repeat. Yeah I think you could say I was a fan...
"Whats the height requirement? I'm 5'4'!" The largest known hobbit was Bandobras Took, called the Bullroarer, who was 4', so large he could actually ride a horse! In all of hobbit lore, this height was exceeded only twice...however that curious matter is dealt with, in these pages.
ArmoredGaming I mean she probably grew up on HP so to her that’s her point of reference. At the same time I can see how the fanboys can be triggered by it.
Aragorn is the epitome of true masculine character. He is confident, respectful, loyal, strong, a rescuer, a lover, fights for what's right, is pure in heart, and is not afraid to show emotion.
In the books he’s more braggadocious like “yeah, I know I’m hot stuff!” but he’s actually proficient enough to back it up; kind of a chad. In the movies they made him a lot more modest.
I like that the film added internal conflict with his worries that he will be corrupted by the ring as Isildur was "The same blood flows through my veins, the same weakness" The only thing that bugs me is he still looks like a ragged ranger even later after stuff happens.
@D-Ice's baby brother Aragorn is human - he's a Dúnedain, who are descendants of the Númenóreans, who were "the most noble race of Men during the First Age". His Númenórean/Dúnedain ancestry is why he lives to 210 years old.
A nifty thing about that fight scene with Aragorn and the Nazgul was that apparently he had to learn the fight choreography in just a few days to film it. He was super committed to the role
This film trilogy did something the Star Wars films never did: they won just about every single category they were nominated for at the Oscars. And all the wins are extremely well-deserved.
And we are lucky the Oscars weren't the way there are now or......... THE OSCARS ARE AN ABSOLUTE JOKE NOW and we have a problem if the Oscars were a joke when fellowship came out or more rather the only time that I know of that the Oscars haven't been a joke is when they gave LOTR those oscars
I didn't mean it like that star wars and quite few other really good movies just like LOTR have won oscars and I meant we would have a problem if the Oscars had bias towards films that are less on quality and more on diversity
I think that nominations in this case were even better and more deserved becouse the wins are mostly about this or that political thing or this or that politics of producers but nominations are given by the peers, by the profesionals :)
Interesting fact I learned: Elrond had a twin brother & they were half elf & half human. When they reached maturity, he & his brother had to choose what world to live in, elf or human. Elrond chose the elves & his brother chose the humans. Isildur, Aragorn's ancestor, was a direct descendant of Elrond's brother. He would've essentially been killing a family member if he had pushed Isildur over the edge.😆
@@LadyIarConnacht But why though? Isn't that a really stupid thing to get annoyed by? Sure, if they speak like they know everything about it and haven't read the books, fine, I get what you mean. Not everyone likes reading. Why can't they enjoy the movies without being judged?
There's similiar things for sure. Gandalf plays a similiar role to Frodo that Dumbledore does to Harry. The misson is to destroy the most evil being existing, by destroying a thing which keeps it alive (Horcrux/The ring). Someone really young and unaware (atleast in the beginning) is the one who completes the misson. Many small thing are actually quite similiar, but obviously, it's Harry Potter that should be compared to LOTR, and not the other way around.
@1993DJC I think thinking of the rings and the horcruxes together makes it easier to understand both of them, because Tolkien & Rowling wrote about different aspects that mesh well together. It's almost like understanding Batman better after watching multiple actors play him.
@@NatalieGoldReacts I'm not doubting our reactions and really love them. However, may I ask why you haven't watched these movies before? Did you just not watch many as a kid?
@@levipeterken4020 My family wasn't a big movie family honestly. I wasn't allowed to watch any TV on school nights and then, on the weekends, I'd rather be playing sports or hanging out with friends. The few series we did watch as a family were Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, and Jurassic Park.
@@NatalieGoldReacts Yeah that makes sense. Thank you for the great reactions and I wanted to say I think it is awesome how your videos are reaching places like here in Australia. Remember to take a break if you need as I'm sure editing can be tiring. You're definitely one of my new favourite channels and seem like a really great person. Have a nice day and I'm looking forward to more LOTR!
When the Lord of the Rings trilogy was being planned as a series of movies "conventional wisdom" said no one would watch three almost-four-hour movies. Thank goodness conventional wisdom was wrong.
Sam is just...he's just the *_best,_* man. He's just the best *_friend_* in all of fiction. His loyalty to Frodo is next level stuff and we should all be more like him.
Arwen- "I choose a mortal life." Natalie- "You can just do that?" Answer is yes and no. Most Elves can't, but Elronds blood line is of Beren(human male) and Lúthein(elven female) so they can. And Aragon is descended from Elronds brother who chooses to be a human... so yea.. if that helps
Yep, Aragon is a descendant of Elros who is Elronds twin brother, the founder of Númenor. I dont know how many generations separate them, but its gotta be alot.
@@darknessblip5820 veeeeeeeeeeeery distantly. So far distantly, that nobody IRL would really consider them related. Between Elros and Aragorn there are over 6,000 years iirc.
Also, the magic in middleearth is faiding away and with it the immortality of the elves. That is why they are leaving. Only the elven rings of power keeps the magic in rivendell and lothlorien. But arwen chooses to stay. And when Sauron and the one ring are destroyed the elven rings won't work anymore
"The race of men are failing.." lol EVERYBODY is failing at this point. The elves/angels are leaving or are stagnant, Most of the Dwarves have lost their ancestral holds. Númenor corrupted and sunk the previous age, it decedent kingdoms Gondor and Arnor Colapsed to shadow of itself or collapsed a thousand years earlier. Everything east of the Iron Hills and south of the Mouth of the Anduin River was under Saurons control. Yeah, everybody is in great fricking shape...
Many Tolkien writing also inspired by an Old folklore like the story of Glaurung the deciever manipulated Turin and his sister Nienor, its directly inspired from a Finnish folklore.
"The ring is the horcrux" Nope, the horcrux is like the ring, not the other way around. But the One Ring is like the sword Tyrfing or the ring Andvaranaut, and the sword and the ring are like some other stories we don't even have knowledge of any more. There's no 100% original stories being written since at least the time the ancient Greeks figured out that every story is a retelling of a previous story, and so it follows the same patterns, and made literal guides on how to write a story. Those guides, and their variations, we still use today to tell well structured stories, no matter what subject they pertain to. Even science-fiction isn't new. It's just evolved to correct for the technological advances we already discovered, but at heart they are the same stories just in a different coat of paint.
Every time I see Bilbo my heart breaks for him. He wanted to go back to Erebor and never made it because after giving up the ring he aged so fast :'( and then in the books when he learns about what the ring really is he still offers to bear it once again to finish the mess he started. He's my absolutely favourite character of all time in LotR (and yes, I do love the Hobbit movies, even if they're not as good as they could've been but Martin Freeman and Richard Armitage and so many others were amazing).
Actually, Bilbo made it back to Erebor. Tolkien writes: "Bilbo had not much to say of himself. When he had left Hobbiton he had wandered off aimlessly, along the Road or in the country on either side, but somehow he had steered all the time toward Rivendell. 'I got here without much adventure,' he said, 'and after a rest I went on with the dwarves to Dale: my last journey. I shan't travel again. Old Balin had gone away. Then I came back here, and here I have been.'
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is a family favorite! Every time it was being shown on tv, everyone -- Mom, Dad, brothers -- would stop what they were doing and watch it together! My mom, who isn't into "nerdy" stuff at all, always says they are her favorite movies. I hope you enjoy them!
yes :) in my family these movies were always considered as one of the best masterpieces of cinema. I m fan of Tolkien for 28 years but my family werent fans of Tolkien or anything like this :) But they loved these movies anyway. My ma and my bro always liked SF and fantasy books and movies in general nearly as much as I did. We used to talk about such books and movies often. They read some of my fav books too. My ma read LOTR and Silm, and my bro and my dad both read the Witcher's saga. And my ma read first volume of GoT and she liked it very much though these books were too violent for her to finish it. And my ma read one of my fav fantasy novel "The Mythago wood". My ma very much liked Pratchet's Discworld - the volumes about the witches. But my dad doesnt like all this fantastic stuff at all :) I could ve watched Star Wars, Star Gate, Star Trek or Indiana Jones or any such kind of movie with my ma and my bro but not with my dad who usualy watched it for few minutes and left the room or started reading newspaper or smt. :) My bro loved mostly Sam's role and the music (he is musician so he appretiated it as profesional), my dad loved mostly king of Rohan and his army, and my ma (who died over a year ago) loved hobbits and the Shire. I shared my love for hobbits, Frodo and the Shire with my ma :)
"How old do elves get?" Yes. Galadriel was born during the Years of the Trees, before the sun and moon were made, and is somewhere between 8,000 and 27,000 years old.
If I remember correctly (i Don't have my books in front of me) Galadriel is a3 generation elf and the last of the of the line of the Noldar High Kings.
@@hellothere-jq8zi If he's still alive on some beach somewhere then he may be the oldest named elf still in middle earth. Galadriel is definitely the oldest still known to be alive.
@@Tesserex I think Cirdan (from the Havens) may be one of the elves that woke, so he would be the oldest. Remember that he had one of the rings, until he gave it to Gandalf.
I'm so glad you decided to go with the extended editions, they're the best way to watch LOTR. Also, even though the horcruxes are probably based on the One Ring, there is one big difference. Voldemort made the horcruxes in order to become immortal and invincible, whereas Sauron is a Maia like Gandalf (immortal angelic beings), therefore, he was already immortal but he made the One Ring to control the kings of men and dwarves through the other rings he distributed to them, and in doing so rule Middle-Earth. And in order to make the One Ring powerful enough to control these other rings he had to pour much of his power and life force into the ring. So, unlike Voldemort and the horcruxes, the making of the One Ring made Sauron more vulnerable in the sense that his life is bound to the ring, and if the ring is destroyed he would be destroyed as well.
Minor point, but Sauron wasn't actually destroyed. As you say, his power and 'life force' were bound up with the ring. When it was destroyed he was reduced to a shapeless, powerless entity cast into the void where he could never be reconstituted.
@@RN-wn8qx I agree with what you, when I wrote destroyed I didn't mean that he died but like you said, he was reduced to a shapeless, powerless, entity. Although he wasn't cast into the void, that was Morgoth. Sauron just went on roaming the eastern regions of Middle-Earth powerless to do anything.
@@rizekmanneh After a bit of searching, turns out none of us is entirely correct. According to the Silmarillion, Sauron was utterly vanquished, but what that means isn't entirely clear. As you say, he's a Maia, so after his physical form was destroyed he'd be sent back to Aman where the Valar would decide what to do with him. We can assume this is what happened with Gandalf, who was then 'sent back' to Middle Earth to complete his task. It is doubtful that Sauron would be sent back to Middle Earth. However, this is further complicated by the fact that Sauron had supposedly already lost his physical form after the Downfall of Numenor. So... I think all we can be sure of is that Sauron was rendered an empty spirit and was probably cast into the void or somewhere he could never be reconstituted. There are people who love to study this LOTR minutia, but that's as far as I'm going.
@@theduckchick not only a "kind of". Tolkien makes it very clear. When he first came to England from South Africa where he was born, he lived in a rural part of the country. He then had to move to Birmingham which was a major industrial centre and it scarred him for life, seeing all the brick houses, smoke, soot, and everything that comes with industrialization. Add to that his firsthand experience of WWI with its new death-dealing machines like tanks, mortars, machineguns, planes, flamethrowers etc. Tolkien hated the wanton destruction of nature.
@@revylokesh1783 Tolkien was a libertarian who hated big power and war. He makes a great point that even the smallest, most powerless, and humble people can inadvertently change the course of the world and history (butterfly effect). And even Gollum ultimately can be used for the fate of good
@@pewburrito I'm cautious of the term libertarian. The present-day US movement called libertarianism is quite different from political-philosophy libertarianism, which is what Tolkien would probably have understood by the term through his classical education. I'm not convinced that either particularly applies to LotR. For instance, the failings of both Gondor and Rohan at the start of LotR are implied to be because the proper heir to the bloodline isn't in power (for different reasons), which is isn't a libertarian message of either kind.
Themes: - anti war. Tolkien lost all his school friends, but one, in WWI. - friendship above all. See above. - anti-industrialism. Tolkien watched the industrial revolution (and war) level beautiful places. - addiction. Corruption. And the weakness of mankind. But redemption!
I would add also honor :) Honor is smt which matters to most persons in LOTR, they talk about it often. Though hobbits and warriors (mannish and elven) are smt different in this particular topic - esp in the case of Bilbo and Thorins company in "the Hobbit" - and it seems that for Tolkien those two groups are from different cultures. The hobbits culture is long past the honor of the warrior becouse they are not warriors anymore. I guess that Merry is the one who from the ranks of hobbits thinks about this problem the most. Bc he befriended with Rohan ppl.
@@crissagram Watched this several times but when Boromir said "the very air [of Mordor] are a poisonous fume" I thought of how mustard gas was used in WWI.
@@sebastianjoseph2828 oh, my I never think of it such way, but you are right :) I dont remember if this line of Boromir is only in the movie or it was borrowed from the book? Either way its genius connection thanks :)
The score makes me cry sometimes. I don't mean cry cry but like moist eyes. Look I don't need to explain myself to you fools, I'm a man! Oh who am I kidding, waaaah waaah waaah
I haven't been this entertained in such a long time! I love people's reactions to my favourite series especially knowing all the twists that are to come
One of my favorite moments from the first film. For a flash Bilbo turns into his own version of Gollum. And then he realizes how weak he was, how everyone is now in danger, and feels he's to blame. Heartbreaking...
"He's got an addiction to the Ring." Thank you! I have watched a lot of first reactions to this movie, and you are the ONLY reactor to draw that connection. The Ring is addictive; even when not used, the bearer is forever thinking about it and looking for excuses to wear it. It's one reason why it's so dangerous, and why no one, not even Gandalf, trusts themselves with it.
I'm a big LOTR fan and still not put my finger quite on what Tolkien wanted the ring to represent. Lust, coveting, greed? Man's capacity for sin? It seemed to represent different things to different people. Smeagol both "hates and loves the ring" because he hates and loves himself
pewburrito I wonder if he was alluding to the many soldiers that came back from WWI & had been liberally prescribed heroin & cocaine. I know it was a major problem in the states & we were on,y there for a year. I’d imagine there were more than a few addicts in the trenches of the western front.
Actually the ageless life is the norm (or long life). Humans are considered the gifted children of Iluvatar (Eru) because they get to pass on, and for this the other races do not like them. Dwarves were also not meant to exist at all. Death was a gift granted only to man, and those with long life would eventually grow extremely envious of that. Melkor/Morgoth is the reason that men resent death, as he poisoned the idea of the gift out of hatred and envy, causing man to fear it rather than realize its gift. Also all immortals are bound to Arda, and will not pass on to the Timeless Halls until the end of time itself, while man are not bound to Arda and are said to return to the Timeless Halls with Eru upon passing.
@@gundamgunpla4685 I'm pretty sure that elves got gifted their immortality by one of the higher beings due to some great act one of the original elves did. Which is why they can throw it away by choice.
@@gundamgunpla4685 although now that I go looking for it I can't seem to find any information that points to that. Strange as I remember reading about it years ago.
@@TechnoMinarchist It's sort of a cobination of the two ideas you both have said. Elves are immortal in that they don't age, but they can be killed in battle. Their soul goes to Valinor where, after a time, it regains an identical body as it once had. It can then choose to return to Middle-Earth or stay in Valinor, but almost no elves choose to return. Why leave heaven when you don't have to? However, the longer an elf lives, the less tied to the world they become, and eventually their body would fade away until just a soul remains. This means over time elves would simply become invisible specters and vanish from the world. Elves feel this "thinness" coming and wish to leave to Valinor before that happens. That's why the elves are sailing away, their time is ending. An elf choosing to stay in Middle-Earth for any reason, say, for love or something, would be giving up eternal life in Valinor to eventually fade away into nothing in Middle-Earth.
@@TechnoMinarchist That is not the case no. They were gifted immortality by Iluvatar. They can not give it up either. When they choose to pass on or die from a blade, they are reincarnated from the Hall of Mandos and sent back to Arda. Severe heartbreak can also kill and Elf, but the still come back through the Hall of Mandos.
So glad you did the extended editions, it really is the film as it was meant to be. The theatrical cut was really just Peter Jackson conceding that most theatre audiences wouldn't sit there for four hours.
The theatricals are better movies. They're not stuffed with bloated nonsense and lack most of the light hearted fluff those stupid extended editions have.
I first saw this film when my dad took me to a packed theater in 2001 when I was 11. That scene where Bilbo turns into a gremlin on Frodo had the whole theater gasping. I was just waiting for it to come up and your reaction was priceless. I got to live vicariously as my 11 year old self again through you, thank you
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Natalie: "why doesnt anyone just destroy the ring?"
Me: One does not simply walk in to Mordor
Indestructible McGuffin is destructible only by the Fires of Mount Doom.
Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful...
I understood that reference.gif
@@meris8486 not with 10,000 men could you do this, it is folly!
Talion: Hold my ale!
"if someone wasn't chasing you this would be a beautiful hike" is literally the whole movie summed up in 1 sentence XD
One does not simply hike into Mordor.
Should have been the tag line on the poster! 😆😂🤣
Also, “man, his whole crew is a liability.”
Didn't Gandalf say, "fly, you fools"? How come Sam and Frodo weren't on eagles' backs to mordor?
@@tempstep4058 Because they had to keep a (quite literal) low profile, as Sauron would've seen them coming otherwise.
"Are there two smeagols?"
Answer: No, but also yes
Well yes, but actually no.
@@antoninoskomnenos1022 He was on the verge of greatness... this close...
Go not to the Elves for counsel (about Smeagol), for they will say both no and yes
there's just 1 Smeagol
RIGHT!!! Lol
"I wonder how many races there are"
1. Men
- Atani
- Edain
- Easterlings
- Númenóreans
- Black Númenóreans
- Dúnedain
- Haradrim
- Variags
- Breelanders
- Northmen of Rhovanion
- Drúedain
- The Éothéod
- Men of Rohan
- Beornings
2. Elves
- Noldor
- Vanyar
- Teleri
• Falmari
• Sindar
• Nandor
• Laiquiendi
• Silvan
• Avari
3. Dwarves
- Longbeards
- Firebeards
- Broadbeams
- Ironfists
- Stiffbeards
- Blacklocks
- Stonefoots
- Petty-Dwarves
4. Ents & Entwives
5. Hobbits
- Hobbits
- Stoors
- Harfoots
- Fallohides
6. Eagles
7. Ainur
- Valar
- Maiar
• Balrogs
• Istari (Wizards)
8. Wolves
- Dogs
- Werewolves
- Wargs
9. Orcs
- Orcs of Mordor
- Orcs of Angband
- Orcs of the Misty Mountains
- Half-Orcs
- Troll-men
- Goblins
- Hobgoblins
- Uruk-hai
10. Dragons
- Fire-drakes
- Cold-drakes
11. Trolls
12. Half-elves
13. Giants
14. Were-worms
15. Misc creatures (such as the Nameless Things, Watcher of the Water, Tom Bombadil, River Daughter)
16. The Great Spiders (such as Ungoliant and Shelob)
If I wasn't so impressed I might think you have too much time on your hands ;-)
Thank you.
You forgot Balrogs (even though they can be counted under maiar in a way), Beornings, Forothwaiths (Lossoth) :)
@@arkenstar3979 I counted Balrogs as Maiar. I'll admit I did forget about the Forothwaiths, my bad.
@@rossmullen7826 Ah cool.. and dont think I'm finding fault.. that was a good list :)
@@arkenstar3979 cheers, it was just off the top of my head
"How many creatures are in this world?" That is a very, very deep rabbit hole.
There really aren't that many:
Men, Elves, Dwarves, Hobbits, Ents = 5
Orcs - does that count as one, or are we counting different breeds of orcs separately? Let's call it 5 types.
Trolls, Huorns, Giants (briefly mentioned in The Hobbit, but never really seen) = 3
Beornings - are they a separate creature from Men?
Eagles
Balrogs
Dragons
Fell Beasts, Wargs, Oliphaunts (Mumakil) = 3
The Watcher in the Water
The "ghosts" or whatever you want to call them from the Paths of the Dead
Nazgul
Barrow Wight
Does Tom Bombadil count as a separate type of creature? Same as Goldberry?
That's a total of 25. Did I leave any out? And 6 of those don't appear in these movies. And 3 don't appear in either the LotR or Hobbit movies.
Yep, depends on how you count them... :-)
Men, Hobbits (essentially an offshoot of Men), Elves (cousins to Men), Dwarves, Ents (spoiler !), some implied offshoots of Men (Woses, Beornings/skinchangers), etc.
Orcs were derived from Elves and Men, apparently, and there are "goblin" versions of them and the big uruk-hai. Trolls are somewhat intelligent, but animal-like. some animals and creatures were enslaved by Sauron (and his previous boss). Ringwraiths are the surviving spirits of Sauron-corrupted Men.
Maiar (lower-tier Ainur, supernatural beings) include Sauron, the wizards (Istari), the balrogs, the Great Eagles and the (talking) dragons (though I'm not 100 % sure about the last one, Tolkien made the exact origin of dragons vague). The Valar are mentioned, but we don't see them.
@@ZemplinTemplar Heh, this reminds me of when we were supposed to present/explain a book to our class. (late elementary, so 14-15 years old I guess.)
Anyway, I started digging my hole with describing the basic races and Maiar. Then I just kept digging.
I probably could have talked ""nonsense"" for the entire hour, so the teacher had to shut me up and send me to sit back down. :D
@@PhilBagels are we counting the silmarillion? Because you need to include ainur (though that includes wizards and balrogs) vampires (also maybe ainur?), werewolves. You also missed the spider creatures.
And like ... what time period? 🤔🤔🤔 First Age? Second Age? Third age? 🤔🤔🤔 it matters 😊
"Why don't they destroy it?!"
The ring cannot be destroyed Natalie daughter of Gold by any craft that we here possess
The look Hugo does at that point is brilliant.
She missed the part where they tossed it into the hearth...andn it wouldn't be destroyed? She kept asking why they don't just destroy... [shrug]
read the bock after the war on that shen on mount doom outsude you have a army large army of man who elfs canot compear whit it and it whill ended bloody bad and undaying hatret betven 2 rases , evry one whit working 2 sels on they brain can solv that , is it not ?
This is the right answer to that question.
This is severely underrated.
Fun Fact: "And my bow." is the only line Legolas says to Frodo in the entire trilogy.
I s it really? ... Holy crap, you're right!
Wow
Well, he only really talks to Aragorn and Gimli. I can't recall him saying anything at all to the other hobbits.
Probably why Frodo didn't address him at the big reunion in the return of the king
He also says "Come on!" to him when reaching out to catch Frodo when leaping from the falling bridge in Kazad-Dum
"It's so creepy...that a ring has so much power"...
Me: Looks nervously at my wedding band
Hahaha good one 🤣
Tolkien was trying to warn us early on to MGTOW
HAHAHAHAHA, FACTS
You mean your precious, right?
This wins the best comment on my quick scroll through. hahaha.
“Natalie finds out that almost everything in Harry Potter was inspired by Lord of the Rings”
Edit: Chill tf out, it wasn’t stolen. Tolkien is the most influential fantasy writer of the century, and directly inspired almost every modern fantasy film and novel known. Most of the similarities between Harry Potter and LotR are merely surface level and aren’t indicative of thievery.
If by inspired you mean stolen sure
@@lelandbacon1253 That's a silly way to look at it. All media is built upon that which came before it. LotR has been a major influence on almost all fantasy to come after it.
@@lelandbacon1253 then LotR stole from the Old English and Norse Sagas
@@Lowekinder And they stole from the abstract idea we call "language".
Basically *all* fantasy as we know it today comes from LotR. Anything with Elves, or Dragons, or Orcs, or Wizards, etc. Every single fantasy trope that exists in "fantasy literature" originated with LotR.
“If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”
J.R.R Tolkien
If only my friend if only
Ah, to live a Hobbit's life.
Easy going, good food, good people, parties and drinking under the Party Tree and none of those nasty adventures that make you late for supper.
@@ABonafideSkeleton And plenty of pocket handkerchiefs in easy reach.
Spoilers, we're trying to get her to watch The Hobbit series.
Thorin's final words
The books were written in the 50's so if anything Harry Potter copied LOTR
Wanted to say that. Voldemort is Sauron rather than vice versa. The horcruxes equivalency was well spotted
1954 published // written 1917 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings
@@Vehuelmikael initialised in 1917.. revised many many times before publication
Pretty much every modern work of fantasy is inspired by the Lord of the Rings in some way... It basically defined the genre
@@Vehuelmikael as James MacLennan said the first book wasn't released until 1954 therefore the lord of the rings/the hobbit is on the verge of 66 (the star wars number) next month and not 103 therefore it didn't exist before 1954 and the original Godzilla was also released in 1954 so Godzilla is also 66
Actually, it's more like Voldemort is Sauron. Tolkien basically invented a whole host of fantasy tropes, among them the soul-bound artifact that ensures its master survives death.
The One Ring was actually stolen from the Soliman's Ring. Everyone likes to say fantasy is based on LotR but almost nothing in LotR is actually original either.
"among them the soul-bound artifact that ensures its master survives death."
He definitely didn't invent that. There are plenty of fairy tales and folklore, specifically The Death of Koschei the Deathless, where the entire premise is that a soul-bound artifact ensures the master is immortal, also Cú Roí Mac Dáire in Irish mythology, A Tale of Two Brothers in Egyptian mythology, and plenty more. It was a common trope that Tolkien did not invent -- Tolkien didn't invent nearly as much as is constantly ascribed to him.
@@inventsable Fair point, perhaps I was hasty in ascribing those things to him. I'm well aware he got an incredible amount of inspiration from European folklore and mythology. What I probably should have said was he popularized those fantasy tropes, making more than just mythology/folklore enthusiasts aware of them.
I like to think Voldemort read LOTR at the end of his sabbatical period, got inspired and immediately stepped up his Horcrux production.
I don't think Harry Potter and LOTR are directly comparable in any way. They are very different stories that both make use of fantastical creates and tropes that are older than either of them, rooted in myth and folklore. I don't actually see any directly obvious influence of LOTR on Harry Potter.
"Gandalf looks like Dumbledore"
Noo...noo...it's the other way round. Dumbledore looks like Gandalf.
EXACTLY
Fun fact: Actor for Gandalf(Ian Mckellen) was asked to play the role of Dumbledore but turned it down.
They both look like Merlin.
@@Markunator Gandalf The Grey is more like Odin.
TBH Both look like Merlin
Fun Facts: the languages that the Elves and Orcs and Ringwraiths are speaking are not just some gibberish,but fully developed languages,complete with grammar and syntax and everything,created by Professor.Tolkien,who was an expert in languages.
He's also considered the ''father of modern fantasy literature'',because everyone and their mother has ripped off ideas from his works.
"so It's a horecrux", no, the horecruxes are rings :P
.most fantasy tropes come from lotr the world owes a great deal to Tolkien
@@DutchDread Indeed, Rowling ripped off too Lord of the Rings.
@@mogaman28 and others but jea one could guess she basically threw LotR and Naruto together and mix it all up nice with some other stuff and tadaa harry potter :P just a guess with no basis at all...
And Tolkien in turn based much of his stuff on real life ancient stories, mostly from Norse sagas and the Finnish Kalevala.
Natalie: "They all have hair like me!"
Me: in my mind you're a hobbit watching the history channel
Hahaha, this comment deserves all the likes.
This comment made my day 😂😂😂
she totally has a hobbit vibe its so charming
I was about to comment how much she looks Hobbit like! Including the food thingy! :D
If she’s not 5 feet or shorter I’ll be disappointed in her lol.
Natalie: We're watching something that's not Star Wars today...
Count Dooku: Hello there.
lmao
Boromir: "One does not simply walk into Mordor"
Saruman: "Dew it!"
RIP Ian Holm (Bilbo Baggins), who passed away at age 88 yesterday. Actor of Alien, Brazil, The Aviator, and many many more amazing films...
5th Element, Greystoke, Chariots of Fire...
He's shining into Eternity now.
Dildo Baggins lord of the g strings
I remember seeing him in "Naked Lunch" while stoned with friends.
"That's Bilbo Baggins."
"Huh? Wuh? ..."
"THAT'S BILBO FUCKIN BAGGINS!!"
At 5 foot 4 you would be the LeBron James of hobbits lol.
Just not quite as black and good at basketball
Hey me too! (about 1,60 mt if you're a sensible person) and yeah I think most hobbits are 1,30?
@@PresidentScrooge but... hobbit-scale basketball? she'd be kinda OP
I had the image from ELF of Buddy skyhooking the ball over his teammates in that photograph at the beginning when I read this.
Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took was the tallest hobbit ever recorded until this point in "history". He was 4'5'', some say he was real enough to ride a horse.
Sauron would eat Valdomort for a snack. Not even breakfast.
Jabba the Hutt for second breakfast.
What a wasted opportunity to say second breakfast
Those are two VERY different fantasy universes with vastly different rulesets. If the killing curse works as advertised on Sauron this will be over very quickly. If it doesn't...well, it will be over very quickly also.
@@UltimateVegetto sauron is a mayar and immortal. He would propably lose his physical form but he would live on
@@sabakka-e5u The thing this if I understand it correctly, the killing curse does nothing to your body. It just sort of makes your soul leave your body - and since Maya have total control over their body and soul (as long as no higher being commands otherwise) he should not be affected by it.
"His whole crew is a liability."
Oh, you have no idea. "Fool of a took!"
Ha ha. But she's still adorable.
FYI: Tolkien is the Father of modern Fantasy. He drew inspiration from mythology and made a mythology. This trilogy barely scratches the surface of his work. Modern Fantasy draws inspiration from him - either directly or indirectly.
When i first got into Tolkien, I kept saying things like, oh this has this or that fantasy type of thing in it, that’s neat. Then I found out that most of those things CAME from Tolkien, not that they were just also in Tolkien’s work. Such a genius. Love it.
He created the Elvish language because of being a linguistics professor.
@@elzar760 I've been seeing this with a lot of reactors who seem to know high fantasy mostly from games. Our modern idea of elves and dwarves came from Tolkien, as well as orcs in general--completely his creation. It's fun seeing people discover the roots of the genre. The only thing that annoys me sometimes is if someone complains that Gandalf isn't shooting fireballs and lightning bolts every scene.
@@elzar760 He did borrow some things from mythology and based several things in the story on experiences in his life. I do agree he was a genius and created a very detailed and interesting world that inspired so many fantasy writers to this day. George R.R. Martin for example is a huge fan and said Tolkien greatly inspired his work.
Aloysius Whiteboat I have seen a bit of that as well. People being frustrated that he’s not shooting fireballs as soon as his 3 second cool down is over.
Sees Aragorn.
Natalie: This guy's a badass.
Me: You have no idea.
I was just gonna say that and then I saw this was the exact first comment in the thread !!!!
I bet that she will be crushing madly on him by the end of the next movie (at the latest)
Nicomaaan I mean as a straight male I can say it’s very hard not to crush on him
What makes him even more badass is that the Weathertop fight with the Wraiths was Viggo Mortensen's first day on set and he'd only learnt the choreography for the fight about an hour before shooting. So, yeah. The term badass doesn't do him justice
@@jazzyb3424 Very true
Ain't going to lie, but it actually hurts my heart that you know Harry Potter but not Lord of the Rings. C.S Lewis (Chronicles of Narnia) and JRR Tolkien (LotR, The Hobbit) created the fantasy genre as we know it. They got together with their friends in the University Pub (They called themselves "The Inklings") and shared all of this together.
As ridiculously popular as Harry Potter is, it owes everything to Tolkien and Lewis.
"It actually hurts my heart that you know Harry Potter but not Lord of the Rings."
So the world is going to unfold and blossom a bit for her. And that is an encouraging thought.
She also draws quite a bit from Arthurian legend but yes, Tolkien and Lewis are clearly inspirations
While this is true, Harry Potter does deserve recognition in it's own right for doing something magical pretty much not done before. It got a whole generation to read. Like pre harry potter most kids I knew did not read much if at all. (I grew up on harry potter being 11 when I saw the first movie in cinema) Then Harry potter happend and every single class mate and friend of mine started to read. It was crazy. Harry Potter brought reading back to a generation that fell out of love with reading. Whatever people may think of the books, they did that.
@@amberanime - Nice point. Kids as young as six years old reading 600-page Potter books.
www.statista.com/statistics/689693/kids-read-harry-potter-books-by-age-group/
Sigh. Chronicles of Narnia really deserve to be brought on screen.
Aragorn grew up in Rivendell, which had one of the greatest elvish libraries in the world. And he also spent decades out in the wilderness alone, living off the land, learning survival skills and fighting to keep people (like the villagers in Bree) safe. So he's got knowledge, wisdom, and skill far beyond what most men could acquire.
Plus, he's also very long-lived, being a descendant of the ancient Numenoreans.
@@colleenross8752 Has lived multiple "lives". He changes his name periodically, and lives a new life. For example, he was a Knight of Rohan and Gondor at different times, a ranger multiple times.
elrond is also like his great times whatever uncle meaning arwin is his cousin... who watched him grow up lol kinda fucked up
Plus elronds sons probably taught him elvish sword fighting
@@kingjellybean9795 I don't believe Arwen actually met him before he was an adult; IIRC, she was off visiting Grandma Galadriel for a couple decades. When he first spotted her, he thought he was having a vision of Luthien Tinuviel.
“It’s so creepy that a ring has so much power” wait till she finds out about the shiny rocks that destroyed an entire line of elves
said a woman who will surely enslave some poor guy someday with one
One ring to make them all.
One ring to find them.
One ring to rule them all
And in the darkness bind them.
The Simarils
Oh dear....I think she's not ready for all of that.
them stupid shiny rocks xD
‘’2020 can’t get any worse’’
July: BREAKING NEWS, The Nine has left Minas Morgul
disguised as riders in black!
They will find the ring...and kill the one who carries it.
JUST IN: They crossed the river Isen on Midsummer's Eve.
Almost laughing but also saying early goodbyes
XO RIDE FOR RUIN!!! AND THE WORLDS ENDING
"oh they all have hair like me"
Couldn't stop laughing
For real😂😂
She’s a Hobbit. Confirmed. 😂
but its so true😂
Especially when I cliked on the video because she has the same hair as the Hobbits, but it took her 30 minutes to notice xD
She looks like Frodo😂👍
Don't feel bad. Bilbo's "demon face" gets EVERYBODY. It's basically a rite of passage for anyone watching these movies for the first time.
It hurt deeply when she said "Sauron is Voldemort"
YEAH! Voldemort is SAURON😂
Voldemort WISHES he was Sauron
actualy Sauron is so different than Voldemort :) When we think of it :
Voldemort was a mortal who could done anything to achieve immortality (by dark magic) and used his allies IMO by promising them sharing this immortality with them.
Voldemort learned how to use magic.
Voldemort tried to invade and destroy one school :)
Sauron was immortal spirit himself. He had no need for immortality. The Ring "offers" immortality only to mortals who use it. Its only its side effect upon mortals.
Saurons magic was high above Voldemorts abilities and it was part of him, not smt to be learned.
He promised kings of Numenor to help them to achieve immortality by invading Valinor - immortals land. He used them by the same promise like Voldemort his allies but I think thats the only similarity between them.
Saurons ring was not a horcrux.
A horcrux was only a box for part of the soul and the Ring was a tool to dominate wills and thoughts of the rulers of other Rings. The mind control device.
Voldemort is just some guy who discovered some old dark magic and tried to make himself immortal. Sauron has been around since creation, he's an immortal spirit, his "master" was Melkor who literally created mountain ranges and caves and reshaped the world in the olden olden olden days. They are not comparable lol
Came to comments to read rage-responses to this comment. Hahaha!
mad kudos for diving into the extended versions haha that's quite a commitment. LOTR is one of the greatest film trilogies of all time. enjoy!
Not for a true lotr Tolkien nerd.
Melkor so to a "true lotr Tolkeien nerd" what is the "greatest film trilogy" of all time? Back to the Futurre?
This is the greatest of all time. No discussion.
THE Greatest of all Time
Chris Curran, Don't know if this is sarcasm or poor reading comprehension...
Boromir is such a well written character. Every single scene he has contributes to his arc. He is very selfless actually. It’s only that the ring is corrupting him. He needs it for reasons you will see in the second movie.
Read the books. LOTR was written long before JKR’s Potter.
He's the most human, for better or worse.
Dont know the source material but love the movies and i believe the character has a beautiful arc and sets up his brother's nicely.
@@alex0589 Boromir seems pretty close to the books in the movie, Faramir however is VERY different in the books.
@@alex0589 Boromir is almost a 1:1 recreation of what he's like in the book.
I think he had enough pride to be pulled and pushed, as a need to please his punk a$$ steward father, to gain power
An important part of understanding The Lord of The Rings, is to consider that Tolkein grew up in relatively rural England, and went off to fight in the first world war, that saw the first introductions of tanks. Tolkein was writing about the horrors of war and the loss of innocence in rural England.
The Hobbits and the shire represent the happier times of Tolkein's youth - parties, food and ale.
The Orcs represent a mechanised German army hell bent on destruction, including the tearing down of ancient forests to power the production facilities
Actually, I think Lord of the Ringgs represents WWII. While your right about his life, he wote LOR to his son, while Christopher was serving in WWII. Of course there is also the ancient myths he learned in college.
Tolkien would literally fight you for saying his story was an allegory
@@ominousbiscuit Which is ridiculous since it's bleedingly obvious that it is.
An important part of understanding lotr is that it's NOT allegorical. Nothing represents anything in real life. There are lots of influences, but not direct representation. Tolkien intended his Legendarium to be entertainment.
@@AngelusBrady No, its not. It. Is. Not. An. Allegory. There are lots of real world influences, but that's not the same thing. Anyone who calls it an allegory is projecting.
“Gandalf looks like Dumbledore”
WRONG ALL DAY
It is Dumbledore who looks like Gandalf 😂
who's dumbledore?
@@scatterthewinds3126 yeah what is it??
Dumbbb What???
@@scatterthewinds3126 do you hate everything apart from lord of the rings that much?
#faith-restored
Natalie did you recognise Saruman is played by Sir Christopher Lee? He also played Count Dooku in star wars..
GREAT SCOTT! you read my mind. or I read yours.
Also the biggest LotR nerd on set. He'd have trivia challenges with the crew and win every time.
@@Pokeysaurus he actually got Tolkien's blessing before he died to play Gandalf if they ever made it into a movie
Marty McFly realize
Many people know he was 92 years in the last Hobbit movie still a badass but I always will remember him as the man with the golden gun
"Horses aren't evil"
Nah those horses are evil.
Those horses were bred and trained in Mordor.
@@BBBHuey old Mermaid Man voice: EEEEEEVVVVIIILLLL!!!!!
Those horses were the servants of morgoth corrupted in the 1st age.Their hunger for hay is insatiable.
Like just look at them... they're totally deranged...
Maybe not born evil but definitely raised that way
I have not seen a single soul who had not been terrified by Bilbo.
The room shook🤣
"Why don't they just destroy the Ring?"
OMG, she knows nothing. This is gonna be fun :D
A wild ride, for sure. Like going on a rollercoaster with someone who's never seen one before.
"Well, I guess then they wouldn't have a movie."
Actually, they would have three.
"How old can elves get?"
They can't die unless they are killed. Galadriel, who's one of the elves you'll see in the next part, is over 10,000 years old. She's so old, that she's older than the sun and the moon. That's actually not an exaggeration, she was actually born before the sun and the moon were made.
I did the math once. Galadriel is 20,000 years old.
The oldest elf in middle earth at the time of the war of the ring is Cirdan the shipwright who was present in the beginning of the first age. He is present at the end of LOTR the return of the King at the coronation. He is the blonde elf smiling behind Arwen.
They can also die of heartbrake. They feel more than any other creature and sadness affects them in a BIG way.
@@Phi1618033 I don't think that's accurate. A lot of people dispute that and calculate her age to be between 8000 and 9000 years old. However Cirdan is certainly older.
also they can never really "die", because when they die they just reincarnate (if willing). they can also forfeit their immortality, like Luthien when she asked Eru Iluvatar to stay with her beloved with the condition that both of them became mortals.
“Sauron is Voldemort.”
I was triggered.
Still one of my favorite scenes of all time. Gandalf gets pissed, draws all light out of the room and it seems to shrink around him and his voice just booms! So epic! A kinda subtle way to demonstrate his power right away.
And immediately after hugs the person he scared to reassure them of his intentions
“MAYBE you should put it in a pocket with a button then.” Omg I laughed out loud! 😂😂🤣
Definitely would not work
Yeah, that made me giggle too.
@@Daniel-gp6sd Yeah, one of its abilities is to influence the mind of those near it, so it'd convince someone to take it out.
I scream this all the time at movies when the hero grabs something then makes a dash to escape running a virtual gauntlet or obstacles but STILL KEEPS THE THING IN THEIR HAND!! Put it in a pocket for the love of Mike!
@@TechnoMinarchist She meant that it would be better in a place where it cant fall off.
"I love Sam, you can tell how much he cares about Frodo"
Just you wait for Return of the king, you may want to have a box of tissues ready 🤣
sssh don't spoil :D
"He might be my ride or die in this series, we'll see."
Oh, honey, will he.
Cannot wait to see her reaction to RotK!
I just saw Elijah say that during the beginning of the first movie, he had celebrated his 19th birthday. He arrived a few months early with some of the other "Hobbits: during weather delays and location finding in New Zealand. The rest of the hobbits were several years older, although, in the book, Frodo is supposed to be middle aged, and Merry is supposed to be a teenager. Probably the most incredible trilogy ever.
Natalie, here's some aide in your questions that need answering:
-A typical Hobbit can live up to 100. Since Bilbo had the One Ring, it allowed him to live much longer.
-Most hobbits grow up to be about 3 feet 6 inches.
-Elijah Wood was 18 when he started filming for Lord of the Rings.
-Gandalf was uncertain about the identity of the ring that Bilbo gave to Frodo.
-The One Ring predates the concept of Horcruxes, as Lord of the Rings was written 1937-1949.
-Trivia: the scene where Strider fights the Wraiths, was Viggo Mortensen's first day on set. He was a last-minute replacement for another actor.
-There's a lot of ancient folklore, which might've inspired Tolkien, that evil creatures are often barred from crossing running water.
-Yes, the elves of Middle-earth are immortal (and spiritually bound to the physical world), unless they are killed or die of heartbreak. Elrond is about 6500 years old, but Galadriel is at least 8300 years old.
-Elrond didn't throw Isildur into the lava for a couple of reasons: the One Ring is extremely powerful inside Mount Doom, and completely consumed Isildur. Elrond would not be able to overcome either. Plus, he would be assassinating the king of his allies, who have thousands of soldiers waiting outside the mountain.
-The necklace Arwen gives Aragorn is more symbolic of her promise to give up her immortality so that she can stay in Middle-earth.
-I believe that only Frodo can hear the Ring. As you can see already, he has a connection with it.
-There is a lot of bad blood between Elves and Dwarves. The fathers of Gimli and Legolas were once at odds.
-Frodo asking about the direction to Mordor shows Frodo's innocence and lack of awareness of just how big the world is outside the Shire.
Indeed. Though, in regards to the idea of horcruxes, pretty much the same thing can be seen in the tales of Koschei the Immortal and other similar tales, i.e. where the soul or life force of the villain (and his only weakness) is hidden inside a jewel, inside an egg, inside a pigeon, inside a hare, inside a big fish and so on. The main difference is that Rowling's horcruxes are created specifically through murder, while the folk/fairy tales generally don't go into quite such details of magic and its origins.
Elrond: "Yeah sorry guys, Isilidur tripped and fell into the lava. Yeah real shame, but hey! he destroyed the ring!"
"The necklace Arwen gives Aragorn is more symbolic of her promise to give up her immortality so that she can stay in Middle-earth." As a kid I thought it was the necklace that gave her immortality, so I thought that it made Aragorn immortal in turn.
A typical Hobbit can live up to 100.
More like 100 for them was like 70 for us :) And they could live to 130. So 130 was like our 100 :)
-Lord of the Rings was written 1937-1949.
More like 1939 - 1954
the first part was published in 1954. the two next in 55.
-Trivia: the scene where Strider fights the Wraiths, was Viggo Mortensen's first day on set. He was a last-minute replacement for another actor.
-There's a lot of ancient folklore, which might've inspired Tolkien, that evil creatures are often barred from crossing running water.
its typical that wraith like monsters - any undead or black-magic products - should fear running water but also fire, bc water and fire were sacred elements
of life. thats why Strider fights with them with firebrands and thats why in the book they were sorounded by river and by guys with firebrands on the bank of the river - that is why the wraiths dont run from the river in the book,
and that is why it seems so strange why they dont run from the river in the movie :) that is bc in the book on the banks stood Aragorn, the hobbits and the powerful elven lord Glorfindel with firebrands. In the book Frodo crossed the river by himself on Glorfindels horse.
-Elrond didn't throw Isildur into the lava for a couple of reasons: the One Ring is extremely powerful inside Mount Doom, and completely consumed Isildur. Elrond would not be able to overcome either. Plus, he would be assassinating the king of his allies, who have thousands of soldiers waiting outside the mountain.
The other one could be also that Elrond believed in free will, free choice and didnt want to force Isildur into lava.
-The necklace Arwen gives Aragorn is more symbolic of her promise to give up her immortality so that she can stay in Middle-earth.
This necklace appears only in the movie. In the book Arwen gaves white gem on the necklace to Frodo but for entirely different reasons.
-Frodo asking about the direction to Mordor shows Frodo's innocence and lack of awareness of just how big the world is outside the Shire
But only in the movies :) In the book Frodo was one of very few hobbits who known elven languages and the best educated person in the Shire. In the book Frodo and Gandalf and Elrond also spend some time over maps making plans for their route :)
Don't forget how the 9's horses are as evil as they are.
As big a Star Wars fan as I am, LOTR is my favorite trilogy of all time. I'm so stoked for you to experience these.
I agree 100%. However, in my opinion, I think the music in Star Wars is better than LOTR. Don't get me wrong, I adore Shire and Battle themes I listen to them for hours. I just think the scores in Star Wars are a bit more epic.
Yeah i think they're lightning in a bottle. I don't think another trilogy will ever be better or even as good as LOTR.
Star Wars is amazing... but is has nothing on this trilogy
Although I’d say I like the actual star wars universe more than the lotr universe. No Star Wars movie will ever compete with a lotr movie. The storytelling, world building, and emotions are unrivaled. So good.
The same here!
"Its a horcrux! Sauron is Voldemort, and the ring is a Horcrux."
Well, yes... No, the opposite actually.
Ps: Gimli aint racist. The elves and dwarves were friends, but they have a blood feud for a couple of thousands of years now. Long story, super jewels, labor disagreement, an elven king dead, that sort of thing.
You forgot about elves hunting dwarves before checking if they were sentient
@@maxgrozema1093 the good ol' days... whack a hairy
@@maxgrozema1093 that were the PETTY Dwarfs, not the "Proper" Dwarfs.
I remember when this was about to come out I had never read any of these books before so I went to the book store and bought Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers and Return of the King and got hooked right away. I read all three books in a week. My life basically went: wake up at 8AM, read, go to school (college)/work, read on lunch, get home read from 6 pm till 1AM, sleep, repeat.
Yeah I think you could say I was a fan...
Awesome.
"3 hours and 50 minutes"
Laughs in Return of the King
9:50 - Lord of the Rings was written 60 years before Harry Potter.
"The Ring wants to be found."
"Maybe you should put it in a pocket with a button, then..."
Hahaha!
XD
"this racist guy" thats.. Gimli.. only the best member of the fellowship and of the finest race! DWARFS!
I mean legolas is just as racist
Actually the elves were racist towards dwarves, first. They used to hunt them for sport! They thought they were ugly and some kind of animal/creature.
*pushes glasses up
Actchually its dwarves
*Dwarves
@@NiclasLoof I love being racist too!
"Whats the height requirement? I'm 5'4'!"
The largest known hobbit was Bandobras Took, called the Bullroarer, who was 4', so large he could actually ride a horse! In all of hobbit lore, this height was exceeded only twice...however that curious matter is dealt with, in these pages.
Bullroarer WAS the tallest, until after the end of this Age. Spoilers! (M&P)
He invented golf!
Ah yes the game of golf, invented when he hit the head of an orc(goblin?) so hard it flew 50 yards into a rabbit hole
@@jokerboy4299 Correct. The goblin-chief's name was Golfimbul.
Too be fair, LOTR is way older, Dobby is a cute version of Smeagol. The extended versions are worth the extra time.
Ya she compares LOTR too much to HP, when it should be HP to LOTR lol but gotta give some leeway to a first time viewer
ArmoredGaming I mean she probably grew up on HP so to her that’s her point of reference. At the same time I can see how the fanboys can be triggered by it.
Smeagol is cuter in my opinion
Lotr is like 70 years old right?
not really sure how dobby and smeagol are anything alike at all except for the fact that they are both short and hairless.
Aragorn is the epitome of true masculine character. He is confident, respectful, loyal, strong, a rescuer, a lover, fights for what's right, is pure in heart, and is not afraid to show emotion.
he's an alpha without being aggressive, and kind, which is a hard line to walk
In the books he’s more braggadocious like “yeah, I know I’m hot stuff!” but he’s actually proficient enough to back it up; kind of a chad. In the movies they made him a lot more modest.
I like that the film added internal conflict with his worries that he will be corrupted by the ring as Isildur was "The same blood flows through my veins, the same weakness"
The only thing that bugs me is he still looks like a ragged ranger even later after stuff happens.
@@samwallaceart288 a Chad could never back it up😜
@D-Ice's baby brother Aragorn is human - he's a Dúnedain, who are descendants of the Númenóreans, who were "the most noble race of Men during the First Age". His Númenórean/Dúnedain ancestry is why he lives to 210 years old.
A nifty thing about that fight scene with Aragorn and the Nazgul was that apparently he had to learn the fight choreography in just a few days to film it. He was super committed to the role
5:59 - "It's so creepy a ring can have so much power"
Wait until your boyfriend proposes
Lmao
21:55
we're the closet people from Man in Black...
That’s the point, it’s the primary metaphor of the story...the ring IS power, and power eventually corrupts everyone.
@Jeremiah Boyd They should stop proposing then lmao
This film trilogy did something the Star Wars films never did: they won just about every single category they were nominated for at the Oscars. And all the wins are extremely well-deserved.
And we are lucky the Oscars weren't the way there are now or......... THE OSCARS ARE AN ABSOLUTE JOKE NOW and we have a problem if the Oscars were a joke when fellowship came out or more rather the only time that I know of that the Oscars haven't been a joke is when they gave LOTR those oscars
so did ben-hur and it wasnt that great not to say lord of the rings doesnt deserve that wins but wins dont make a movie great for everyone @Jm RONIN
I didn't mean it like that star wars and quite few other really good movies just like LOTR have won oscars and I meant we would have a problem if the Oscars had bias towards films that are less on quality and more on diversity
@@crystall.411 And some of the star wars movies won Oscars to
I think that nominations in this case were even better and more deserved becouse the wins are mostly about this or that political thing or this or that politics of producers but nominations are given by the peers, by the profesionals :)
Interesting fact I learned: Elrond had a twin brother & they were half elf & half human. When they reached maturity, he & his brother had to choose what world to live in, elf or human. Elrond chose the elves & his brother chose the humans. Isildur, Aragorn's ancestor, was a direct descendant of Elrond's brother. He would've essentially been killing a family member if he had pushed Isildur over the edge.😆
Gotta give it to Tolkien having lore behind the lore. I did not know that and I consider myself fairly knowledgable on everything Tolkien.
It's Elrond😉
@@andyboyle8650 Whoopsie! Just noticed that, thanks!
Elrond and Elros will meet each other once again when the world is broken and remade.
Wow yet another thing I did not know. In the context of the book it is an important element.
"How old was Elijah Wood in this movie?" He is ageless, Natalie... Ageless...
Just barely 18! He IS ageless!
Like everybody in this movie. Cate Blanchet is simultaneously 20 and 40
I think he actually had his 19 birthday while they were filming in Hobbiton, so Bilbo's birthday party was almost Elijah's birthday party too
It's an effect of the ring
He hasn't aged a day...
every time someone compares Lord of the Rings to Harry Potter, something dies inside of me...
Same way I feel when people know the movies but not the books.
@@LadyIarConnacht But why though? Isn't that a really stupid thing to get annoyed by? Sure, if they speak like they know everything about it and haven't read the books, fine, I get what you mean. Not everyone likes reading. Why can't they enjoy the movies without being judged?
There's similiar things for sure. Gandalf plays a similiar role to Frodo that Dumbledore does to Harry. The misson is to destroy the most evil being existing, by destroying a thing which keeps it alive (Horcrux/The ring). Someone really young and unaware (atleast in the beginning) is the one who completes the misson.
Many small thing are actually quite similiar, but obviously, it's Harry Potter that should be compared to LOTR, and not the other way around.
Wait until you read the Nibelungenlied and Beowulf and start comparing Tolkien's works to them ... x)
And Kalevala of course. The whole character of Túrin Turambar is based on Kullervo from the Kalevala.
"Oh, Gollum, not Smeagol. Are there two creatures like this?"
Lol
Well yes, but actually no.
Well...yeah...kinda. I mean, she's not wrong.
"It's complicated"
Smeagol = Anakin. Gollum = Darth Vader.
"Yes" ; )
Its more like Voldemort is Sauron ;) you see where Rowling got her inspiration from?
*everyone got their inspiration from
Rowling never had an original idea in her life. Everything she wrote was ripped off from somewhere.
@1993DJC I think thinking of the rings and the horcruxes together makes it easier to understand both of them, because Tolkien & Rowling wrote about different aspects that mesh well together. It's almost like understanding Batman better after watching multiple actors play him.
The only horcrux that I found annoyingly derivative was the locket that hung around our protagonists' necks and drove them to anger. Like, come on...
"Dumbledore" is the name of fireflies in a song that Bilbo sings. Worm tail, Worm Tongue, Aragog, Aragon, etc.
"...then Gondor shall see it done". That is the core of Boromir. He was a good man, and kept his honor.
"I'm sorry, you guys are on a table and I just hit the table."
...are we … IN your camera? All of us?
...am I real?
Omg this made me lol so hard 😂
@@NatalieGoldReacts I'm not doubting our reactions and really love them. However, may I ask why you haven't watched these movies before? Did you just not watch many as a kid?
@@levipeterken4020 My family wasn't a big movie family honestly. I wasn't allowed to watch any TV on school nights and then, on the weekends, I'd rather be playing sports or hanging out with friends. The few series we did watch as a family were Harry Potter, Indiana Jones, and Jurassic Park.
@@NatalieGoldReacts Yeah that makes sense. Thank you for the great reactions and I wanted to say I think it is awesome how your videos are reaching places like here in Australia. Remember to take a break if you need as I'm sure editing can be tiring. You're definitely one of my new favourite channels and seem like a really great person. Have a nice day and I'm looking forward to more LOTR!
@@NatalieGoldReacts
Harry Potter - John Williams: ✔
Indiana Jones - John Williams: ✔
Jurassic Park - John Williams: ✔
" It's a Horcrux! "
Me: *Dies a little on the inside.*
i did too man...i did too
If only she would have called it a phylactery...
I died maybe a bit more
Technically, she's not wrong tho
so did Voldemort
“I like this guy.” So does almost everyone else in the world.
When the Lord of the Rings trilogy was being planned as a series of movies "conventional wisdom" said no one would watch three almost-four-hour movies. Thank goodness conventional wisdom was wrong.
Sam is just...he's just the *_best,_* man. He's just the best *_friend_* in all of fiction. His loyalty to Frodo is next level stuff and we should all be more like him.
Landon Hagan If you’re stuck in a fantasy world, find a friend named Sam. You’ll never go wrong. Samwise, Samwell.
Hell, even Jon Snow needed a Sam...and he knew nothing.
Landon Hagan I salute you
Sam is one of my favorite characters of all time.. Portrayed so well in these movies too!
"Guys, I shook the camera. I'm sorry."
Are you kidding? I was looking forward to your reaction to that scene specifically. 😆
Same.. haha.. so good
Her reaction sells her channel, it's why I came here.
So was I, my dear boy, so was I.
Arwen- "I choose a mortal life."
Natalie- "You can just do that?"
Answer is yes and no. Most Elves can't, but Elronds blood line is of Beren(human male) and Lúthein(elven female) so they can. And Aragon is descended from Elronds brother who chooses to be a human... so yea.. if that helps
So Aragon and Arwen are related?
Yep, Aragon is a descendant of Elros who is Elronds twin brother, the founder of Númenor. I dont know how many generations separate them, but its gotta be alot.
@@darknessblip5820 veeeeeeeeeeeery distantly. So far distantly, that nobody IRL would really consider them related. Between Elros and Aragorn there are over 6,000 years iirc.
Also, the magic in middleearth is faiding away and with it the immortality of the elves. That is why they are leaving. Only the elven rings of power keeps the magic in rivendell and lothlorien. But arwen chooses to stay. And when Sauron and the one ring are destroyed the elven rings won't work anymore
oooh
"The race of men are failing.." lol EVERYBODY is failing at this point. The elves/angels are leaving or are stagnant, Most of the Dwarves have lost their ancestral holds. Númenor corrupted and sunk the previous age, it decedent kingdoms Gondor and Arnor Colapsed to shadow of itself or collapsed a thousand years earlier. Everything east of the Iron Hills and south of the Mouth of the Anduin River was under Saurons control. Yeah, everybody is in great fricking shape...
So middle earth is California lol
"The ring is a Horcrux"
Listen... There's absolutely no original ideas in Harry Potter...
Inspired doesn't mean unoriginal
The only inspired thing in HP is Snape.
Many Tolkien writing also inspired by an Old folklore like the story of Glaurung the deciever manipulated Turin and his sister Nienor, its directly inspired from a Finnish folklore.
"The ring is the horcrux"
Nope, the horcrux is like the ring, not the other way around.
But the One Ring is like the sword Tyrfing or the ring Andvaranaut, and the sword and the ring are like some other stories we don't even have knowledge of any more. There's no 100% original stories being written since at least the time the ancient Greeks figured out that every story is a retelling of a previous story, and so it follows the same patterns, and made literal guides on how to write a story. Those guides, and their variations, we still use today to tell well structured stories, no matter what subject they pertain to. Even science-fiction isn't new. It's just evolved to correct for the technological advances we already discovered, but at heart they are the same stories just in a different coat of paint.
yeah, its literally Glantri from D&D for kids
"That's so creepy, that a ring can have so much power." = Lord of the Rings, in one sentence hahaha.
yet u watching this channel, dont forget ur pills arite?
@@jozefmak1268
What?
The Lord of the Rings in one sentence: Put that thing back where it came from, or so help me!
9:50 Take that logic and flip it on it's head. Lord of the Rings was written LOOOOOOOONG before Harry Potter.
“How does the ring have so much power?”
I think it’s time to tell her about that elf who killed a bunch of people over some rocks
@Autumn B. well, that technically is what happened XD
A silmarellion fan 😊
@@namine3676 yup 😊
Technically his whole family killed a third of their own race over three shiny rocks 😂😂
10:38 _Saruman turns to Natalie_
"I have seen it."
I just love how these wizards break the fourth wall and answer all of her questions.
Every time I see Bilbo my heart breaks for him. He wanted to go back to Erebor and never made it because after giving up the ring he aged so fast :'( and then in the books when he learns about what the ring really is he still offers to bear it once again to finish the mess he started. He's my absolutely favourite character of all time in LotR (and yes, I do love the Hobbit movies, even if they're not as good as they could've been but Martin Freeman and Richard Armitage and so many others were amazing).
Actually, Bilbo made it back to Erebor. Tolkien writes: "Bilbo had not much to say of himself. When he had left Hobbiton he had wandered off aimlessly, along the Road or in the country on either side, but somehow he had steered all the time toward Rivendell. 'I got here without much adventure,' he said, 'and after a rest I went on with the dwarves to Dale: my last journey. I shan't travel again. Old Balin had gone away. Then I came back here, and here I have been.'
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is a family favorite! Every time it was being shown on tv, everyone -- Mom, Dad, brothers -- would stop what they were doing and watch it together! My mom, who isn't into "nerdy" stuff at all, always says they are her favorite movies. I hope you enjoy them!
yes :) in my family these movies were always considered as one of the best masterpieces of cinema. I m fan of Tolkien for 28 years but my family werent fans of Tolkien or anything like this :) But they loved these movies anyway.
My ma and my bro always liked SF and fantasy books and movies in general nearly as much as I did. We used to talk about such books and movies often. They read some of my fav books too. My ma read LOTR and Silm, and my bro and my dad both read the Witcher's saga. And my ma read first volume of GoT and she liked it very much though these books were too violent for her to finish it.
And my ma read one of my fav fantasy novel "The Mythago wood". My ma very much liked Pratchet's Discworld - the volumes about the witches.
But my dad doesnt like all this fantastic stuff at all :) I could ve watched Star Wars, Star Gate, Star Trek or Indiana Jones or any such kind of movie with my ma and my bro but not with my dad who usualy watched it for few minutes and left the room or started reading newspaper or smt. :)
My bro loved mostly Sam's role and the music (he is musician so he appretiated it as profesional), my dad loved mostly king of Rohan and his army, and my ma (who died over a year ago) loved hobbits and the Shire. I shared my love for hobbits, Frodo and the Shire with my ma :)
Natalie: “I’d fit right in, What’s the height requirement? I’m 5’4” ” Hobbits: *AMAZON*
"How old do elves get?"
Yes.
Galadriel was born during the Years of the Trees, before the sun and moon were made, and is somewhere between 8,000 and 27,000 years old.
You know what they say, you stop counting after 3,000 or so
"I'm 2,500... again"
"Bitch, that's the 1,745th "2,500th" birthday you've had!"
If I remember correctly (i Don't have my books in front of me) Galadriel is a3 generation elf and the last of the of the line of the Noldar High Kings.
@@Heegaherger correct me if I'm wrong as I've learned most of my knowledge online but what about Maglor?
@@hellothere-jq8zi If he's still alive on some beach somewhere then he may be the oldest named elf still in middle earth. Galadriel is definitely the oldest still known to be alive.
@@Tesserex I think Cirdan (from the Havens) may be one of the elves that woke, so he would be the oldest. Remember that he had one of the rings, until he gave it to Gandalf.
I'm so glad you decided to go with the extended editions, they're the best way to watch LOTR.
Also, even though the horcruxes are probably based on the One Ring, there is one big difference. Voldemort made the horcruxes in order to become immortal and invincible, whereas Sauron is a Maia like Gandalf (immortal angelic beings), therefore, he was already immortal but he made the One Ring to control the kings of men and dwarves through the other rings he distributed to them, and in doing so rule Middle-Earth.
And in order to make the One Ring powerful enough to control these other rings he had to pour much of his power and life force into the ring. So, unlike Voldemort and the horcruxes, the making of the One Ring made Sauron more vulnerable in the sense that his life is bound to the ring, and if the ring is destroyed he would be destroyed as well.
Minor point, but Sauron wasn't actually destroyed. As you say, his power and 'life force' were bound up with the ring. When it was destroyed he was reduced to a shapeless, powerless entity cast into the void where he could never be reconstituted.
@@RN-wn8qx He wasn't cast into the void, he's just bound to aimlessly wander the world until it ends.
@@RN-wn8qx I agree with what you, when I wrote destroyed I didn't mean that he died but like you said, he was reduced to a shapeless, powerless, entity. Although he wasn't cast into the void, that was Morgoth. Sauron just went on roaming the eastern regions of Middle-Earth powerless to do anything.
@@rizekmanneh After a bit of searching, turns out none of us is entirely correct. According to the Silmarillion, Sauron was utterly vanquished, but what that means isn't entirely clear. As you say, he's a Maia, so after his physical form was destroyed he'd be sent back to Aman where the Valar would decide what to do with him. We can assume this is what happened with Gandalf, who was then 'sent back' to Middle Earth to complete his task. It is doubtful that Sauron would be sent back to Middle Earth. However, this is further complicated by the fact that Sauron had supposedly already lost his physical form after the Downfall of Numenor. So... I think all we can be sure of is that Sauron was rendered an empty spirit and was probably cast into the void or somewhere he could never be reconstituted.
There are people who love to study this LOTR minutia, but that's as far as I'm going.
The orcs are ripping the trees down for the wood to fuel the furnaces to make weapons and armour for their army.
Kind of an allusion to industrialization, sort of.
@@theduckchick not only a "kind of". Tolkien makes it very clear. When he first came to England from South Africa where he was born, he lived in a rural part of the country. He then had to move to Birmingham which was a major industrial centre and it scarred him for life, seeing all the brick houses, smoke, soot, and everything that comes with industrialization.
Add to that his firsthand experience of WWI with its new death-dealing machines like tanks, mortars, machineguns, planes, flamethrowers etc. Tolkien hated the wanton destruction of nature.
@@revylokesh1783 Tolkien was a libertarian who hated big power and war. He makes a great point that even the smallest, most powerless, and humble people can inadvertently change the course of the world and history (butterfly effect). And even Gollum ultimately can be used for the fate of good
@@pewburrito I'm cautious of the term libertarian. The present-day US movement called libertarianism is quite different from political-philosophy libertarianism, which is what Tolkien would probably have understood by the term through his classical education. I'm not convinced that either particularly applies to LotR. For instance, the failings of both Gondor and Rohan at the start of LotR are implied to be because the proper heir to the bloodline isn't in power (for different reasons), which is isn't a libertarian message of either kind.
@@revylokesh1783 thank you! When I posted that I didn't have time to check my facts, which is why I sound hesitant. Busy day again, today!
"The horses aren't evil, they're just horses"
Red eyes: "allow us to introduce ourselves! "
Gandalf: We have to travel west of the Misty Mountains for forty days.
Natalie: Forty days? That's so long.
Me: You have no idea!
Better pack a lunch.
"This guy [Strider] is resourceful. I want him on my team for sure." These are both huge understatements.
God save the King!
YES! we watching the extended edition! Perfect, I don't mind it all all if each movie is split into two parts. I am so down for this.
Me too. In fact, the only way to watch it IMHO. There's just so much extra you learn from the Extended Editions.
The only thing I don't like about the extended edition is the intro, that extended part with Isildur is too much, the cinematic intro is just perfect.
5:40 *Frodo* : You're late.
*Gandalf* : Yeah well you're short, but tomorrow i'll wake up and i won't be late anymore.
lol
Themes:
- anti war. Tolkien lost all his school friends, but one, in WWI.
- friendship above all. See above.
- anti-industrialism. Tolkien watched the industrial revolution (and war) level beautiful places.
- addiction. Corruption. And the weakness of mankind. But redemption!
You forget one thing: Catholicism embedded within the world itself (Tolkien's Letter 142, Letter 153, Letter 213, and Letter 320).
Mordor Is basically the Fields of Verdun during the trench warfare.
I would add also honor :) Honor is smt which matters to most persons in LOTR, they talk about it often. Though hobbits and warriors (mannish and elven) are smt different in this particular topic - esp in the case of Bilbo and Thorins company in "the Hobbit" - and it seems that for Tolkien those two groups are from different cultures. The hobbits culture is long past the honor of the warrior becouse they are not warriors anymore. I guess that Merry is the one who from the ranks of hobbits thinks about this problem the most. Bc he befriended with Rohan ppl.
@@crissagram Watched this several times but when Boromir said "the very air [of Mordor] are a poisonous fume" I thought of how mustard gas was used in WWI.
@@sebastianjoseph2828 oh, my I never think of it such way, but you are right :) I dont remember if this line of Boromir is only in the movie or it was borrowed from the book? Either way its genius connection thanks :)
She's reacted to Star Wars and now has begun her journey across Middle Earth, subscribe button we meet again.
@Not Yet It's an art.
The score makes me cry sometimes. I don't mean cry cry but like moist eyes. Look I don't need to explain myself to you fools, I'm a man! Oh who am I kidding, waaaah waaah waaah
Lol it makes me full on cry sometimes
#MistyEyed
I haven't been this entertained in such a long time! I love people's reactions to my favourite series especially knowing all the twists that are to come
"why not destroy it??"
oh sweet summer child
I'm loving all the fandoms colliding in the comments here!!
@bokprop420 yikes!
Bilbo's reaction to seeing the ring again,
had everyone in my theater jump out of their seats too..
I laughed at her reaction. I knew it was coming. LOL
To think of how much time it took to make that for just TWO FRAMES of film.
One of my favorite moments from the first film. For a flash Bilbo turns into his own version of Gollum. And then he realizes how weak he was, how everyone is now in danger, and feels he's to blame. Heartbreaking...
lol yeah. spilled my popcorn all over the next row in that scene
Yeah I saw it coming was just grinning staring at Natalie waiting for her reaction hahah am I evil...
"He's got an addiction to the Ring."
Thank you! I have watched a lot of first reactions to this movie, and you are the ONLY reactor to draw that connection. The Ring is addictive; even when not used, the bearer is forever thinking about it and looking for excuses to wear it. It's one reason why it's so dangerous, and why no one, not even Gandalf, trusts themselves with it.
I'm a big LOTR fan and still not put my finger quite on what Tolkien wanted the ring to represent. Lust, coveting, greed? Man's capacity for sin? It seemed to represent different things to different people. Smeagol both "hates and loves the ring" because he hates and loves himself
Power, power is addictive.
pewburrito I wonder if he was alluding to the many soldiers that came back from WWI & had been liberally prescribed heroin & cocaine. I know it was a major problem in the states & we were on,y there for a year. I’d imagine there were more than a few addicts in the trenches of the western front.
@@pewburrito it doesn't "represent" anything, because Tolkien wasn't writing an allegory ;) Howeve, you can interpret it to mean whatever you like.
If you watched Lord of the Weed you'd know.
It's good that she's watching the extended versions. It's the ONLY way to experience these films!
Love!
"Sauron is Voldemort!"
Me: *Groans in Fantasy Lit history*
Im right at that point...made my skin crawl
Frodo baggins as Harry Potter.
Koschei, Sauron, D&D liches, etc, all had their souls protected in an object long before Harry Potter came along!
No Voldemort is Sauron lol
Yet calling the ring a horocrux was surprisingly accurate.
Elves are immortal. They were blessed with an ageless life without disease.
Actually the ageless life is the norm (or long life). Humans are considered the gifted children of Iluvatar (Eru) because they get to pass on, and for this the other races do not like them. Dwarves were also not meant to exist at all.
Death was a gift granted only to man, and those with long life would eventually grow extremely envious of that. Melkor/Morgoth is the reason that men resent death, as he poisoned the idea of the gift out of hatred and envy, causing man to fear it rather than realize its gift.
Also all immortals are bound to Arda, and will not pass on to the Timeless Halls until the end of time itself, while man are not bound to Arda and are said to return to the Timeless Halls with Eru upon passing.
@@gundamgunpla4685 I'm pretty sure that elves got gifted their immortality by one of the higher beings due to some great act one of the original elves did. Which is why they can throw it away by choice.
@@gundamgunpla4685 although now that I go looking for it I can't seem to find any information that points to that. Strange as I remember reading about it years ago.
@@TechnoMinarchist It's sort of a cobination of the two ideas you both have said. Elves are immortal in that they don't age, but they can be killed in battle. Their soul goes to Valinor where, after a time, it regains an identical body as it once had. It can then choose to return to Middle-Earth or stay in Valinor, but almost no elves choose to return. Why leave heaven when you don't have to? However, the longer an elf lives, the less tied to the world they become, and eventually their body would fade away until just a soul remains. This means over time elves would simply become invisible specters and vanish from the world. Elves feel this "thinness" coming and wish to leave to Valinor before that happens. That's why the elves are sailing away, their time is ending.
An elf choosing to stay in Middle-Earth for any reason, say, for love or something, would be giving up eternal life in Valinor to eventually fade away into nothing in Middle-Earth.
@@TechnoMinarchist That is not the case no. They were gifted immortality by Iluvatar. They can not give it up either. When they choose to pass on or die from a blade, they are reincarnated from the Hall of Mandos and sent back to Arda. Severe heartbreak can also kill and Elf, but the still come back through the Hall of Mandos.
So glad you did the extended editions, it really is the film as it was meant to be. The theatrical cut was really just Peter Jackson conceding that most theatre audiences wouldn't sit there for four hours.
Weird to think that Peter Jackson was a horror movie director before all of it..
@@DutchGuyMike doesn't surprise me. Bilbo jumpscare, dead marshes, ghost soldiers, spider, a freaking demon.
@@lordfabulous6198 "Rawr!"
and now so many people wish he made 3 movies each lasting 6 hours and i would watch them all in 1 go too! haha
The theatricals are better movies. They're not stuffed with bloated nonsense and lack most of the light hearted fluff those stupid extended editions have.
I first saw this film when my dad took me to a packed theater in 2001 when I was 11. That scene where Bilbo turns into a gremlin on Frodo had the whole theater gasping. I was just waiting for it to come up and your reaction was priceless. I got to live vicariously as my 11 year old self again through you, thank you