You asked about why Marika and Godfrey’s children were omens, and if that meant Marika was hiding something. Actually, it’s Godfrey who likely contributed to that, considering the Crucible Knights were his personal elite soldiers. It’s not confirmed, but Godfrey’s connection to the Crucible is stronger than Marika’s, and is likely the cause for Morgott and Mohg to be omens
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Hoarah Loux was a great and powerful warlord, with a lust for battle and an animalistic rage. More beast than man in combat. It would be fitting then that some of his children would be blessed by the power of the Crucible, which seems to be a font of LIFE in its most primal and viscious. Omens have great strength and horns literally bursting from every part of their body, you could say that they're chock full of "life energy."
@@592Johno It’s explained in Melania’s remembrance. Miquella and Malenia are afflicted because they are the children of a single god; Marika and Radagon. It’s the strongest piece of evidence that Marika and Radagon were always the same being since their children were afflicted like that by their almost incestuous union. Screwed them up pretty badly
@@592Johno I mean, in that situation you can take a look at Marika and say "C'mon, two different husbands, but the kids are always...exceptional in some way" and think that there is something that Marika is hiding with her roots and origin. That's a fine point, however, if you know the spoiler about Marika and Radagon's "union", I'd say their children are marked from birth due to the truth about Marika and Radagon specifically. It's not a "Marika thing" in this situation, but a "Marika AND SPECIFICALLY Radagon thing." Also, we have the Eternal Queen Marika and her Elden Lord Radagon and both of their kids are Empyreans? The Outer Gods would be quite foolish to disregard such an opportunity ;)
Sounds like the greater will really sucked on the crucibles power to get started; hoarah loux must have been the strongest when the crucible was the most common source of power
You aren't being silly at all when you pause, one of the most fun parts of these game's lore is going over the bulletin board in your head and making connections its SUPER engaging and fun :3
There are a lot of indicators that Melina is the Gloam-Eyed Queen. Maliketh (Beast Clergyman) gives you the eye that trembles when close to deathroot. Possibly the eye he removed from the queen upon her defeat. Melina’s missing eye. If Melina does not burn herself (Frenzied Flame ending), she has her eye back- which looks identical to the beast eye- and is again at her full power (after defeating Maliketh and restoring death to the lands) when she hunts you to deliver to you what is yours… “Destined Death”. Furthermore, there is an idea that Melina returned when Ranni sacrificed her body and Godwyn’s soul, which is why Melina has burns all over her. They also both disappear the same way in the blueish particles. Very interesting parallels. All of the current empyreans are direct offspring of Marika. The Gloam-Eyed Queen was an empyrean. And Melina states her “purpose was given to her long ago by her mother in the Erdtree”. I really think Melina and Miquella are two of the most interesting and least understood characters in the game. Great videos! Looking forward to more!
I personally feel like Melina is actually a Ranni or maybe just a part of Ranni. If you notice they’re both missing opposing eyes. Also both Melina and Ranni give you a spirit to help you on your journey. It could be a ploy of Ranni’s that would lead you to help her on her path. Afterall she has no other way to continue her existence besides the help of a tarnished. We can also see how deep her plots go since she is willing to kill Godwyn to escape her destiny. She is an Aizen level threat and we must never forget that even though we do simp for her
The graveyard of swords is a direct reference to the Japanese Manga, Berserk, specifically the Band of the Hawk's "Hill of Swords". Most of Miyazaki's games (actually all) has heavy references to Berserk. Ranni is similar to a character Schierke and Blaidd is an obvious Guts analogue with that armour. Even in Blaidd's armour description they describe him as a struggler against fate-- which is what the main character of Berserk is condemned to. Good point you make about the gods around @31:00. That's why Ranni's ending is so unique-- she seeks a place where people can be completely free from the machinations of the outer gods, for them to have their own fate and agency. The outer gods as we know in this game just seem to be fucking around with people for no clear purpose so its hard to understand them. I suppose you could argue that their purpose is to confuse "lesser beings" so that they're always out of reach and solidified above mortals. Also @1:04:00 he's talking about fundamentalists assholes such as D. That guy fucking sucks
@@greekjohn1998 sure the Dark Moon is her new order but its effectively would never meddle. Ranni explicitly states this in the game: "As it is now, life, and souls, and order are bound tightly together, but I would have them at a great remove. And have the certainties of sight, emotion, faith, and touch… All become impossibilities." The Japanese dialogue for it is a little more clear: "… Even if life and souls are one with the order, it (the order) could be kept far away. If it was not possible to clearly see, feel, believe in, or touch the order… That would be better."
@@yourashi9082 Sure, but not only that. He is far more ambitious than that. He was going to make his own order with no Erdtree or other influence, hence why he tried to make his own great tree and with the unalloyed gold he would have made it one outside the influence of greater beings like the Greater Will.
@@wchiggenbobber Still, she effectively ruined the world (regardless if it was something Marika herself wanted) in order to bring another outer god in place. We do not know what the Fate of the Stars is other than that it comes to opposition with the Golden Order and that in the stars live beings that are not as friendly to the denizens of the Land Between regardless if they worship them (Nokron and Astel, they worshipped the starts but a being from the stars destroyed them)
Since it wasn't addressed directly in this video (and I don't think Vaati has covered it in depth yet): Placidusax is implied to have been the Elden Lord before the Elden Beast and the Erdtree arrived, serving a different Outer God than the Greater Will and essentially being the dragons' version of Marika. Note that his pose when you first encounter him is a deliberate mirror of the Two Fingers, indicating that he is still desperately trying to communicate with a god who has now gone silent, replaced by the power of the Greater Will.
The greater will didn’t “replace” the god. The greater will is always the first and foremost god of the lane. The outer gods are lesser gods, and this god that went silent could mean 1 of 2 things. either that the greater will abandoned the dragons, just as it has abandoned the demi gods in favor of the tarnished, or that the outer god of the dragons has abandoned them. This might be the biggest misunderstanding in the lore, and as an English audience it’s an easy misunderstanding to make, but clearing up this misunderstanding helps a lot with things not quite falling neatly into place. After all of the greater will is just another outer god, why would it willingly help us set up a completely different order instead of to repair its own?
What I love about that Twin bird sheild is if you look at it focus on the negative space around the bird heads, it forms the shape of the Deathbird's skull.
for those who aren’t familiar…queelag has been around as a souls lore youtuber since dark souls 1 came out albeit lowkey. she never got as big as vaati but she was always in those circles. she took a break for a while but i think shes been more active in recent years. Shes great and i always loved the cute drawings she made along with her lore vids.
If you've liked these, you'll love the "An Elden Ring Story" series. The Lord of Frenzied Flame and the Blessing of Despair are particularly good, but all of Vaati's content lately has just been so incredibly good!
Whenever rennala comes to my mind, im always so humbled by the impact of her motives. Everything about her is the incarnation of the moon: First the cycle of mother and daughter, birth and dead, just like the neverending cycle of the moon. Second her little apprentices that surround her like the stars surround the moon. This motive of constant rebirth is exactly what the meaning of the moon lools like. The search of perfection that can be found in the fullmoon, but also in its opposit: the dark and brightless newmoon. A game between light and shadow, hope and agony. Its beautiful!
And I dont want to start about Radahn and how he kept the stars "hostige"; or Radagon this flaming person in the center of this agony, like the moon that was destined to be betrayed by the sun. The fullmoon that shines the brightest when reflecting the sunlight, but is completly dark without it....
I commented yesterday, on your lore reaction video that you should take a look at the demigods video by Vaati. So this is just perfect timing haha ^^ Recently found your channel. I really enjoy your commentary and i look forward to see more :D
The black tree mentioned in the Helphens Steeple description has gotta be the “Shadow of the Erdtree” right? Vaati even described it as a dark mirror of the Erdtree, and the whole vibe of the announcement pic reminded me of the Greek field of asphodel or the Egyptian field of reeds, both representations of an afterlife or spirit realm. Maybe Miquella is lost in the spirit world because he didn’t die a glorious death - he’s just sleeping in his coccoon
So pretty much my theory is that being an omen is less of a race and more of a curse, anyone no matter what race can be an omen, it’s brought up as a curse so I feel like neither was hiding anything they where just unlucky to be born with horns.
This is actually really cool to watch someone (you) watch the lore videos. I'm learning so much more because you are asking questions and processing allot of information out loud. Love this content Emma! Thanks for allowing us to join you!
A theory as to why Morgott and Mohg were born omen: they were potentially born before Godwyn and conceived by the Hoarah Loux persona (who was generally a lot closer to the crucible, commanding the crucible knights and generally being more animalistic) and Marika, and then after Hoarah Loux takes on Serosh and becomes Godfrey, so Godfrey and Marika then give birth to Godwyn, who comes out “normal”
Wonderful! Glad you're enjoying these and I'm super excited for you to watch others! Many players just watched his first video and stopped but he has a bunch and is making more, the Miquella one is particularly good
Just came across your sekiro playthrough and loving it. It's also so fantastic to see someone who is really curious about the lore and world watch Vaati's stuff on their channel 🙌🏻 Elden Ring is my fav world FROM has built, so dense and so full of history. I think GRRM really, really influenced alot and elevated the world to greater heights. I look forward to more reactions and to hear your thoughts! I especially love the 'Prepare to Cry' vids Vaati does, get the tissues ready haha
I just found your channel through your other reaction video to Vaati and found your playthroughs to other FromSoft games and as a self proclaimed Souls Veteran I'm really enjoying your channel so far! I recommend you checkout Vaati's latest Lore video about Miquella and other ones like the Frenzied Flame one and the one about the Dung Eater.
30:52 the text is killing me lmaooo Really enjoying these, I hope you’ll eventually get to Vaati’s attempt at reading into the picture From used to announce the DLC
Elden ring is such a meticulously crafted game that to figure out its story, looking at it like a historian works to gain insight into the worlds story. The haligtree is the best example of this as it seems to have a detailed and rich story but there is very little written or spoken about it. Thus we look to its design, architecture and inhabitants for information, statues and engravings give glimpses into the purposes of certain rooms and tell the story of Miquella and his aspirations and the factions and races inhabiting it tell us of Miquellas allegiances (everyone who needs a friend apparently). Quelaag covers this alot and especially looks into parallels in real anglo saxon, celtic and alchemical folklore/beliefs. Some community members even going as far as to accidentally predict the appearance of certain celtic iconography as the icon in question seemed to fit perfectly into existing theories and was then later found in engravings in-game. Elden ring is likely the most rich work of fiction to date and most certainly my favourite fictional world ever.
From my understanding, the reason why Malenia and Miquella are afflicted is because they were children of Radagon and Marika who are the same person. So it's almost a incestuous curse, and the omen twins Mohg and Morgott were afflicted because the golden order(Marika) and (old tree order) Godfrey were joined gaining dominant attributes from the old order, and the reason Godwyn was chosen to be killed was because he represented "the perfect golden order offspring" so his death was a direct jab at the order he represented.
Great video Emma. Everyone needs to watch Vaati! Also congrats on the wedding. I really hope someone cheered and said 'NOW YOU CAN BE TOGETHAA FOREVA!!'
Cool videos! I like the channel. Gonna have to check out your playthrough 🤘🏻 As someone who's very, very into elden rings lore, it's interesting to watch someone react to vaatis videos for the first time. The way you appreciated how we don't know what things are, referencing the fact that that's how it would be if we were actually going through this ourselves was a really good point. The game kinda gives you the choice of how much back story you want to explore or to not do that at all. It's not only the best combat in any souls game ever, with very little distractions from gameplay if you want it that way, but it's also game of thrones level story telling, if not better because we have amazing animation.
It’s awesome to see people appreciating the artistry and hard work of a fictional game world The Soulsborne style of digging up lore and secrets, connecting the dots and therefore enjoying a game MORE because of it. Love to see it. Keep up the good work and happy gaming!!! 😎
19:00 It's a theory of mine that: Since Godfrey led the Crucible Knights, he may have possessed aspects of the Crucible aswell. I mean- there's no spell to break the boss arena in half, but his moves in the first phase still have that pale orange-gold glow that the Crucible incantations do. Maybe the children Godfrey had with Queen Marika were Omen because of his connection to the Crucible. Maybe Godfrey may even be the _cause_ of the spread of Omen _through_ Morgott and Mohg, but that might be too big a reach- I don't know enough lol
Still blows my mind that all this lore is contained in the item descriptions, the vague npc dialog, and the environmental storytelling of the game. Wild stuff.
The twin bird Vaati mentions is a reference to Hræsvelgr, a giant eagle in Norse mythology who is said to be a corpse swallower... => If you played GOW and its sequel Ragnarok, then you must've seen him in Helheim since he's often associated with death. If you search through history, you'll see that he's also been depicted as a two headed eagle on most of the nobles' family crest and coat of arms.
I felt like Ranni's ending was the justifiable ending that made the most sense. There's a video out there by Ziostorm that covers the mistranslated English version of her storyline, and the Japanese version by comparison makes her look like the absolute martyr-savior of The Lands Between. I would laugh and be all for it if you had to complete her storyline for full access to the DLC, but I think it's highly unlikely... sadly. ;)
Love hearing about the beings of Elden Ring. The lore of it is so fascinating and mysterious at the same time. It's only natural that you pause to explain to your viewers to base your knowledge on the topic 😊 By the way, just subscribed to your channel 😉
I always thought Godfrey was the reason for the Omen twins, since he was a champion of the Crucible Era. The Crucible Knights were actually his top soldiers. So the Omen Twins are a curse from his heritage
I love your "exploration" videos :D I hope you'll keep on doing them :) On the last video, I've commented that you should watch next the videos of The Tarnished Archaeologist, just a small precision, use the playlist tab on his channel. Otherwise, you won't see everything and most importantly you won't see them in the good order
I like you're view of the sympathetic villain. The anti-villain to accompany the established anti-hero. I would point you to perhaps the most iconic anti-villain in all of fantasy literature - Gollum from the Tolkien legendarium. An ultimately sympathetic character but also a murderer, thief and betrayer. GRRM uses both the anti-hero and the anti-villain extensively and it's no surprise that this is seen throughout Elden Ring.
The twin thing does seem to be a thing - don’t forget the Twin Sage stone mask (only given to super important Burgerkin- I mean glintstone sorcerers). This video made me soften towards Fia…a bit, maybe and perhaps the events in her quest line didn’t merit the punishment I meted out :) Vaati, always making me rethink everything XD Also, does it matter if your mythology knowledge is secondhand? It was probably well-researched by the developers and it would take too long to learn otherwise ^_^
In regard to why the M&M twins were afflicted from birth, I've always assumed it was like this: With incest there is a chance of an abnormal birth, with their parents being the actual same person it was like incest x10 along with a bit of the greater will saying "Bruh, that's fucked up" and thus their afflictions appeared.
I think if you love Elden Ring lore, you should watch Smoughtown and Tarnished Archaeologist, their videos are extremely interresting, and full of little details easily missed.
Btw, Hyetta (the eye eating girl's) quest leads to the "Lord of frenzied flame" ending, which is one of the 6 endings of the game. That ending even has a small added scene with Melina, if Melina didn't die by burning herself for you to enter the erdtree at this point in time (37:33). Because of Melina not supporting you becoming the lord of frenzied flame, she leaves your side and doesn't burn the erdtree for you when you completed Hyetta's quest before Melina has a chance to burn herself for you near the end of the game. Maybe you could react to all of the 6 game endings as well.
I find Bloodborne really useful for thinking about the outer gods. Think about how Formless Oedon sired Mergo and influenced the world of BB, or how the moon turns out to be the Moon Presence, which has done a deal with/bewitched Gehrman, so is influencing the hunters dream/the hunters/etc. Elden Ring feels like it takes this kinda concept in a bunch of different ways, with all sorts of 'external forces' trying to enact their will upon the lands between, whether it is Ranni meeting the dark moon, Renala meeting her full moon, the outer god of Rot influencing Malenia, Mohg interacting with the Formless Mother to use his cursed blood as a boon, the flame of frenzy with its own set of fingers, even the Golden Order - the most influential of them all, and the one we probably experience the most of, through its effects - from bestowing power to Marika, sending a big-ass golden space beast to the world, influencing the society of the Lands Between to change their customs and switch to worshipping gold/golden order/Greater Will. It's just mad how deep From games are, in such an expertly crafted kind of way, rather than a more traditional way of conveying story and lore. Love 'em!
I do believe that the Omen twins were like that due to Godfrey being very much of this world. If memory serves, it is heavily suggested that he was about and around way before Marika's ascension, meaning he was of the Crucible. After all he was the commander of the Crucible Knights. Reason why Miquela and Malenia were afflicted is probably down to it being that their parent's were, as is heavily speculated, one and the same being, which is a whole new level of incest. That, typically produces genetic defects, so this is probably why.
In regard to your ponderings ~@27:40, I would highly suggest watching the Quelaag video about metals/magnetism. To me it was extremely insightful about the inner-/inter-workings of outer gods and how the different characters relate to them. About the @31:00 musing: The gods in ER seem to sort of embody one principle, or overarching aspect (i.e., rot or order) which sort of dictates how the world operates as a whole. If that makes sense?
Sooooo, the TH-cam channel @Crecganford does GREAT analysis of folklore and mythology, he's very academic in terms of his qualifications but he presents things in a way that's really easy to digest. He has some videos about early death gods and he might well have something on Charon as well! Would love to see you watch some of his stuff - not that he's directly gaming related, and I know you're not a reaction channel, but I'm sure some edited highlights of his stuff would fit nicely into a wider understanding of some of the folklore of the Lands Between!
To go with the twin thing, if you look close, almost every major faction has a weapon, spell, or crest or something with a double helix pattern on it. Pretty cool stuff Still really digging these videos btw! Keep 'em coming lol (Also I won't go into detail or anything, but my personal interpretation of Marika and the Golden Order is that in a similar fashion to how the multiple endings let us choose what sort of age we will be lord over? The previous Elden Lords also had a lot of say in what kind of era they would rule over. Godfrey is a mighty warrior who loves battle, so the early age of the Erdtree/Crucible was one of conquest and war and growth, and then Radagon was a man of reason and rules and maintaining order, so he created the Golden Order as we think of it with all its categories and prejudices and whatnot Marika, in my opinion, is more of a neutral figure whose purpose is to make that lord's desire a reality... And then when that lord's time has passed, to remove them and find a new Elden Lord. The current situation we're in is because Radagon refuses to let her end his age and replace him, and her shattering the Elden Ring and calling back the Tarnished and all that is part of a long plan to outsmart him and finally remove him as lord)
I love that everyone is just on the same page (appropriately) for Rykard's speech as part of the serpent. It's just funny that it's a meme unto itself that we all understand TOGETHAAAA.
I have a minor in religious studies lol and how I interpret godhood for this game is that almost anything can be a god if the people believe that it is a god. It just so happens that what the people and creatures of Elden Ring believe to be a god have actual, real, and physical power in their world which probably makes them believe in it even more! Hopefully that makes sense 😅
You should take a look at Vaati's Elden Ring video called "The Blessing of Despair", probably his video with the highest production quality he has done so far
30:26 again, check out video by Smoughtown, he details many things that could perhaps explain what outer gods are. In summary Many japanese elden ring community believes that outer gods has similar roles to those of Kami. A japanesse concept of Gods that embody themselves in parts of nature. In ER you got the god of rot, formless mother, blood-related good, etc. These are parts of nature in elden ring universe.
Love these videos please keep em coming. I suggest you watch vaati's Miquella video next I find Miquella to be the most interesting demigod and I think you'd enjoy his story. I also suggest watching vaati's prepare to cry videos specifically the ones on the frenzy flame and the age of disspare they both feel like watching a movie. Anyway great content can't wait for more of your vids
I think the reason why miquella and malenia were born affected is due to the theory the Merica and radagon are the same being, and being born from one single entity split in to 2 and then having kids, well that is just asking for trouble
Considering “horn” is one of the Aspects of the Crucible and Godfrey is a character with deep connection to the crucible, I’d argue it’s more likely that the Omen Horns came from his lineage. Goldwyn embodying Marika’s visage and Godfrey’s strength, with Mohg and Morgott embodying the primeval aspects of the crucible inherent to Godfrey and his crucible knights.
Funnily enough, the rot god specifically apparently has a physical form. There's a weapon in-game called the Scorpion's Stinger that is said to be "crafted from the relic of a sealed outer god". Relics IRL are pieces of the corpses of dead saints, so that weapon is literally made from a part of that outer god.
On people saying that "he was wrong" I think it's key to remember that these ones you're watching first were some of his earliest videos on elden ring. So new information will have been discovered since the making of the video
I truly think Radahn stopped the stars to benefit his family, since it seems that by the time you defeat him and the stars move…There are no real forces left to play against Ranni. More than that, freeing the stars is the only reason i can see for Malenia attacking Radahn. Plus, the amber starlight you find is most likely Miquella’s fate.
45:11 what I assume you're trying to say is that there is a motif of 2s in this game; Godskin duo boss, Mogh and morgott, Marika and radagon, Miquella and malenia, This world has 2 moons, 2 different elden lords, 2 sets of demigod twins, I could go Abit further but you get the point
Fun fact: it is a widely accepted theory that Melina is actually the gloam-eyed queen. Or rather - a reborn version of her. We know that Marika had the Gloam-eyed queen burned alive with the very black flame that she commanded. In the same way - Melina is said to be "burned and bodiless" nothing more than a spirit, an apparition. There is also a lot of other evidenceand subtle hints like for example Melina having the same exact moveset in combat like the Black Knife Assassins, etc etc... My working theory is that while Marika was imprisoned inside the Erdtree she used a fragment of the Gloam-eyed queen's spirit to create and "give birth" to Melina - the burned and bodiless. With the purpose of her acting as a kindling maiden to a chosen tarnished - which, in the end she did.
8:56 This explains me as a gamer in RPG's that provide free choice. I have a conscience in regard to NPC's of all things and it's why in Elden Ring, after I watched all of Vaati's lore explanations, I avoided combat with the omen in the sewers JUST for the fact I felt sympathy towards them. From the simple perspective of playing a video game, it's a ridiculous notion- and yet it there it is, reminding me I'm human.
31:19 same… I really want to know what these things look like… despite knowing that it would just be the equivalent of a puddle of star dust or rot or blood or what ever else….. kinda frustrating sometimes.
A video I’d recommend for elden ring lore is a video from a channel called SmoughTown called elden ring story timeline. It helps having some context for when certain events took place when looking at elden rings lore.
Your thoughts on villains with twisted up bringing. Example Netflix Daredevil the Kingpin character. His twisted upbringing made him into the monster he became. If you haven't look watched it I recommend it.
The black knife assassin is the same with the cult of phantom is assassin in Dota 2, in which all the members are all female, and their figure is similar with dark blue/black armor that they wear.
Hey Emma, I recently found your channel from this video and I’ve started watching your elden ring playthrough! Idk how you don’t have more subscribers, I find you very intelligent and entertaining, have a nice day (:
The omen twins were probably born because Godfrey had a connection to the crucible growing up and battling in the early days before the Erd tree. Mekkala, and Malania are super incest twins, being born from literally two people who are the same person
The haligtree was a place of sanctuary and safety for those who were shunned by the rest of the world. The entire area is optional, as such the player has to actively choose to go there, invade the sanctuary, and slaughter those who reside peacefully within. Something to think about in your next play through...
I believe the twins were born afflicted because by this time, even before the Shattering, Marika had already sealed Destined Death, which was an act against the Greater Will. The Greater Will, in retaliation, could have corrupted her children. That would also explain Morgott and Mogh being born as omens, not under the Greater Will's grace. So Godwin would have been the only pure offspring of Marika.. If you think about it, she might have sealed Destined Death to keep Godwin alive forever, causing all her children after that to be cursed and afflicted. Like Freya and her son who she cursed with eternal life without any feeling, Marika's love and need to keep her firstborn child alive cursed the rest after him.
It's just my theory of the possible reasons why Radahn held back the stars, was because I think the Elden Beast was a star that came to the Land Between. And if the stars can bring in beasts like Astel, who can be persume to have been sent by outer gods to conqueror the lands between, as did the greater will and the elden beast vs the dragon god placidusax and his outer god. Then Radahn would held back the stars, to keep competition from the Elden Beast thus upholding the Golden Order.
its worth noting that (I'm pretty sure) Ranni's doll skin is blue because it is porcelain, and being roughly 5k years old, the once white porcelain has permanently changed color
About Mogh being a "justified villain". My father's mother never wanted or loved him. In fact, she dispised him and left to other country, and he lived most of his childhood with his grandmother in a small town. They were poor, and he usually wandered in the streets stealing food. When he grew up he went to live in the capital city, but never achieved to become a mature and responsible person, he was impulsive and spendthrift. At some point, he met my mother and had me, but never acted really as a father. When I was 10 or so, despite he was unenployed he was not capable of getting up early to take me to the school, and when I reached 14 (aproximately) he left home. Although he was still in contact with my mother and me, he never give her any money to support her with my upbringing. So I also had to grew up without my father the same way he had to without his mother, and yes, I see some of his attitudes and defects in myself. But now that I am an adult person, I am aware of them and can work in myself to mitigate and correct them. To the point that I decided not to have children unless I can prove to myself that I can overcome them. So yes, we all are influenced by our environment, specially during childhood, but when we become adults we have the capacity (even the responsibility) to identify in which ways that evironment conditionated us and work to be the person who we want to be.
Lovin these lore videos. I hope when the dlc comes out you do a replay of the game plus dlc. I think you should consider it. I love this game so much I ended up making 5 more characters all turned out to be challenge runs.
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You asked about why Marika and Godfrey’s children were omens, and if that meant Marika was hiding something. Actually, it’s Godfrey who likely contributed to that, considering the Crucible Knights were his personal elite soldiers. It’s not confirmed, but Godfrey’s connection to the Crucible is stronger than Marika’s, and is likely the cause for Morgott and Mohg to be omens
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Hoarah Loux was a great and powerful warlord, with a lust for battle and an animalistic rage. More beast than man in combat. It would be fitting then that some of his children would be blessed by the power of the Crucible, which seems to be a font of LIFE in its most primal and viscious. Omens have great strength and horns literally bursting from every part of their body, you could say that they're chock full of "life energy."
Then what about Malenia and Miquella curses?
@@592Johno It’s explained in Melania’s remembrance. Miquella and Malenia are afflicted because they are the children of a single god; Marika and Radagon. It’s the strongest piece of evidence that Marika and Radagon were always the same being since their children were afflicted like that by their almost incestuous union. Screwed them up pretty badly
@@592Johno I mean, in that situation you can take a look at Marika and say "C'mon, two different husbands, but the kids are always...exceptional in some way" and think that there is something that Marika is hiding with her roots and origin.
That's a fine point, however, if you know the spoiler about Marika and Radagon's "union", I'd say their children are marked from birth due to the truth about Marika and Radagon specifically. It's not a "Marika thing" in this situation, but a "Marika AND SPECIFICALLY Radagon thing."
Also, we have the Eternal Queen Marika and her Elden Lord Radagon and both of their kids are Empyreans? The Outer Gods would be quite foolish to disregard such an opportunity ;)
Sounds like the greater will really sucked on the crucibles power to get started; hoarah loux must have been the strongest when the crucible was the most common source of power
You aren't being silly at all when you pause, one of the most fun parts of these game's lore is going over the bulletin board in your head and making connections its SUPER engaging and fun :3
It’s definitely better if she pauses to assert her thoughts rather than talking over the video and potentially missing something.
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There are a lot of indicators that Melina is the Gloam-Eyed Queen. Maliketh (Beast Clergyman) gives you the eye that trembles when close to deathroot. Possibly the eye he removed from the queen upon her defeat. Melina’s missing eye. If Melina does not burn herself (Frenzied Flame ending), she has her eye back- which looks identical to the beast eye- and is again at her full power (after defeating Maliketh and restoring death to the lands) when she hunts you to deliver to you what is yours… “Destined Death”. Furthermore, there is an idea that Melina returned when Ranni sacrificed her body and Godwyn’s soul, which is why Melina has burns all over her. They also both disappear the same way in the blueish particles. Very interesting parallels. All of the current empyreans are direct offspring of Marika. The Gloam-Eyed Queen was an empyrean. And Melina states her “purpose was given to her long ago by her mother in the Erdtree”. I really think Melina and Miquella are two of the most interesting and least understood characters in the game.
Great videos! Looking forward to more!
I personally feel like Melina is actually a Ranni or maybe just a part of Ranni. If you notice they’re both missing opposing eyes. Also both Melina and Ranni give you a spirit to help you on your journey. It could be a ploy of Ranni’s that would lead you to help her on her path. Afterall she has no other way to continue her existence besides the help of a tarnished. We can also see how deep her plots go since she is willing to kill Godwyn to escape her destiny. She is an Aizen level threat and we must never forget that even though we do simp for her
@@murkwithasmirk6877 very idiotic theory.
The graveyard of swords is a direct reference to the Japanese Manga, Berserk, specifically the Band of the Hawk's "Hill of Swords". Most of Miyazaki's games (actually all) has heavy references to Berserk. Ranni is similar to a character Schierke and Blaidd is an obvious Guts analogue with that armour. Even in Blaidd's armour description they describe him as a struggler against fate-- which is what the main character of Berserk is condemned to.
Good point you make about the gods around @31:00. That's why Ranni's ending is so unique-- she seeks a place where people can be completely free from the machinations of the outer gods, for them to have their own fate and agency. The outer gods as we know in this game just seem to be fucking around with people for no clear purpose so its hard to understand them. I suppose you could argue that their purpose is to confuse "lesser beings" so that they're always out of reach and solidified above mortals.
Also @1:04:00 he's talking about fundamentalists assholes such as D. That guy fucking sucks
Ranni does not want freedom from any outer gods, that's Miquela's goal and only his and also Rykard. Ranni wants the Moon to rule another Outer God.
@greekjohn1998 no miquela just wants to cure his sister
@@greekjohn1998 sure the Dark Moon is her new order but its effectively would never meddle. Ranni explicitly states this in the game:
"As it is now, life, and souls, and order are bound tightly together, but I would have them at a great remove. And have the certainties of sight, emotion, faith, and touch… All become impossibilities."
The Japanese dialogue for it is a little more clear:
"… Even if life and souls are one with the order, it (the order) could be kept far away. If it was not possible to clearly see, feel, believe in, or touch the order… That would be better."
@@yourashi9082 Sure, but not only that. He is far more ambitious than that. He was going to make his own order with no Erdtree or other influence, hence why he tried to make his own great tree and with the unalloyed gold he would have made it one outside the influence of greater beings like the Greater Will.
@@wchiggenbobber Still, she effectively ruined the world (regardless if it was something Marika herself wanted) in order to bring another outer god in place. We do not know what the Fate of the Stars is other than that it comes to opposition with the Golden Order and that in the stars live beings that are not as friendly to the denizens of the Land Between regardless if they worship them (Nokron and Astel, they worshipped the starts but a being from the stars destroyed them)
Love these! We're all confused by those videos so it's fun to watch you unravel his unraveling
Hahaha ok that’s good to know cos I feel quite stupid when I watch them!
@@Emmalition Definitely not.
@Emmalition nah not stupid. These games have lore that is sooooo obscure. To this day I still don't know what paleblood is in bloodborne
We all not confused he Litteraly is explaining to you whats so confusing
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Since it wasn't addressed directly in this video (and I don't think Vaati has covered it in depth yet): Placidusax is implied to have been the Elden Lord before the Elden Beast and the Erdtree arrived, serving a different Outer God than the Greater Will and essentially being the dragons' version of Marika. Note that his pose when you first encounter him is a deliberate mirror of the Two Fingers, indicating that he is still desperately trying to communicate with a god who has now gone silent, replaced by the power of the Greater Will.
The greater will didn’t “replace” the god. The greater will is always the first and foremost god of the lane. The outer gods are lesser gods, and this god that went silent could mean 1 of 2 things.
either that the greater will abandoned the dragons, just as it has abandoned the demi gods in favor of the tarnished, or that the outer god of the dragons has abandoned them.
This might be the biggest misunderstanding in the lore, and as an English audience it’s an easy misunderstanding to make, but clearing up this misunderstanding helps a lot with things not quite falling neatly into place.
After all of the greater will is just another outer god, why would it willingly help us set up a completely different order instead of to repair its own?
What I love about that Twin bird sheild is if you look at it focus on the negative space around the bird heads, it forms the shape of the Deathbird's skull.
for those who aren’t familiar…queelag has been around as a souls lore youtuber since dark souls 1 came out albeit lowkey. she never got as big as vaati but she was always in those circles. she took a break for a while but i think shes been more active in recent years. Shes great and i always loved the cute drawings she made along with her lore vids.
If you've liked these, you'll love the "An Elden Ring Story" series. The Lord of Frenzied Flame and the Blessing of Despair are particularly good, but all of Vaati's content lately has just been so incredibly good!
Whenever rennala comes to my mind, im always so humbled by the impact of her motives. Everything about her is the incarnation of the moon:
First the cycle of mother and daughter, birth and dead, just like the neverending cycle of the moon. Second her little apprentices that surround her like the stars surround the moon. This motive of constant rebirth is exactly what the meaning of the moon lools like. The search of perfection that can be found in the fullmoon, but also in its opposit: the dark and brightless newmoon. A game between light and shadow, hope and agony. Its beautiful!
And I dont want to start about Radahn and how he kept the stars "hostige"; or Radagon this flaming person in the center of this agony, like the moon that was destined to be betrayed by the sun. The fullmoon that shines the brightest when reflecting the sunlight, but is completly dark without it....
I commented yesterday, on your lore reaction video that you should take a look at the demigods video by Vaati. So this is just perfect timing haha ^^
Recently found your channel. I really enjoy your commentary and i look forward to see more :D
Aww thank you so much!! Hopefully you enjoy this one too then 🥲
The black tree mentioned in the Helphens Steeple description has gotta be the “Shadow of the Erdtree” right? Vaati even described it as a dark mirror of the Erdtree, and the whole vibe of the announcement pic reminded me of the Greek field of asphodel or the Egyptian field of reeds, both representations of an afterlife or spirit realm. Maybe Miquella is lost in the spirit world because he didn’t die a glorious death - he’s just sleeping in his coccoon
It's most likely either the Helphens Steeple or Godwyn's Death Root but we obviously won't find out until we get more info.
It's most likely either the Helphens Steeple or Godwyn's Death Root but we obviously won't find out until we get more info.
So pretty much my theory is that being an omen is less of a race and more of a curse, anyone no matter what race can be an omen, it’s brought up as a curse so I feel like neither was hiding anything they where just unlucky to be born with horns.
Very much enjoy these lore videos and it's great to see you so invested in the lore and trust me there is so much more to discover.
Radahns part always gives me goosebumps.. what a legend !!
This is actually really cool to watch someone (you) watch the lore videos. I'm learning so much more because you are asking questions and processing allot of information out loud. Love this content Emma! Thanks for allowing us to join you!
A theory as to why Morgott and Mohg were born omen: they were potentially born before Godwyn and conceived by the Hoarah Loux persona (who was generally a lot closer to the crucible, commanding the crucible knights and generally being more animalistic) and Marika, and then after Hoarah Loux takes on Serosh and becomes Godfrey, so Godfrey and Marika then give birth to Godwyn, who comes out “normal”
Wonderful! Glad you're enjoying these and I'm super excited for you to watch others! Many players just watched his first video and stopped but he has a bunch and is making more, the Miquella one is particularly good
Oh man the Beauty of this game when it’s slowed down. This is what amazes me. Thanks for diving in.
Just came across your sekiro playthrough and loving it. It's also so fantastic to see someone who is really curious about the lore and world watch Vaati's stuff on their channel 🙌🏻
Elden Ring is my fav world FROM has built, so dense and so full of history. I think GRRM really, really influenced alot and elevated the world to greater heights.
I look forward to more reactions and to hear your thoughts! I especially love the 'Prepare to Cry' vids Vaati does, get the tissues ready haha
I just found your channel through your other reaction video to Vaati and found your playthroughs to other FromSoft games and as a self proclaimed Souls Veteran I'm really enjoying your channel so far! I recommend you checkout Vaati's latest Lore video about Miquella and other ones like the Frenzied Flame one and the one about the Dung Eater.
30:52 the text is killing me lmaooo
Really enjoying these, I hope you’ll eventually get to Vaati’s attempt at reading into the picture From used to announce the DLC
Elden ring is such a meticulously crafted game that to figure out its story, looking at it like a historian works to gain insight into the worlds story. The haligtree is the best example of this as it seems to have a detailed and rich story but there is very little written or spoken about it. Thus we look to its design, architecture and inhabitants for information, statues and engravings give glimpses into the purposes of certain rooms and tell the story of Miquella and his aspirations and the factions and races inhabiting it tell us of Miquellas allegiances (everyone who needs a friend apparently). Quelaag covers this alot and especially looks into parallels in real anglo saxon, celtic and alchemical folklore/beliefs. Some community members even going as far as to accidentally predict the appearance of certain celtic iconography as the icon in question seemed to fit perfectly into existing theories and was then later found in engravings in-game. Elden ring is likely the most rich work of fiction to date and most certainly my favourite fictional world ever.
Really enjoying the Elden Ring Lore Video’s! They’re so fascinating! 🤗
I’ve watched all these videos all ready but it’s still nice watching you go through and learn the lore. Keep going😊
Glad you like them!
From my understanding, the reason why Malenia and Miquella are afflicted is because they were children of Radagon and Marika who are the same person. So it's almost a incestuous curse, and the omen twins Mohg and Morgott were afflicted because the golden order(Marika) and (old tree order) Godfrey were joined gaining dominant attributes from the old order, and the reason Godwyn was chosen to be killed was because he represented "the perfect golden order offspring" so his death was a direct jab at the order he represented.
38:50 I love how you're almost perfectly in the frame lol.
Can't wait for youto get to the "Lord of the Frenzied Flame" and "Blessing of Despair" videos.
Great video Emma. Everyone needs to watch Vaati!
Also congrats on the wedding. I really hope someone cheered and said 'NOW YOU CAN BE TOGETHAA FOREVA!!'
Cool videos! I like the channel. Gonna have to check out your playthrough 🤘🏻
As someone who's very, very into elden rings lore, it's interesting to watch someone react to vaatis videos for the first time. The way you appreciated how we don't know what things are, referencing the fact that that's how it would be if we were actually going through this ourselves was a really good point. The game kinda gives you the choice of how much back story you want to explore or to not do that at all. It's not only the best combat in any souls game ever, with very little distractions from gameplay if you want it that way, but it's also game of thrones level story telling, if not better because we have amazing animation.
It’s awesome to see people appreciating the artistry and hard work of a fictional game world The Soulsborne style of digging up lore and secrets, connecting the dots and therefore enjoying a game MORE because of it. Love to see it. Keep up the good work and happy gaming!!! 😎
19:00 It's a theory of mine that:
Since Godfrey led the Crucible Knights, he may have possessed aspects of the Crucible aswell. I mean- there's no spell to break the boss arena in half, but his moves in the first phase still have that pale orange-gold glow that the Crucible incantations do. Maybe the children Godfrey had with Queen Marika were Omen because of his connection to the Crucible.
Maybe Godfrey may even be the _cause_ of the spread of Omen _through_ Morgott and Mohg, but that might be too big a reach- I don't know enough lol
That's a really good theory
this is so awesome
45:16 yes, exactly that… perhaps one for the body and the second for the soul.
Just finished the other video and this one just popped up, right as I was looking forward to your next one! Perfect timing
35:50 such a lovely reaction!!!!!
Still blows my mind that all this lore is contained in the item descriptions, the vague npc dialog, and the environmental storytelling of the game. Wild stuff.
5:57 You owe Mogh an apology (I too tho 😢)
The twin bird Vaati mentions is a reference to Hræsvelgr, a giant eagle in Norse mythology who is said to be a corpse swallower...
=> If you played GOW and its sequel Ragnarok, then you must've seen him in Helheim since he's often associated with death.
If you search through history, you'll see that he's also been depicted as a two headed eagle on most of the nobles' family crest and coat of arms.
I felt like Ranni's ending was the justifiable ending that made the most sense. There's a video out there by Ziostorm that covers the mistranslated English version of her storyline, and the Japanese version by comparison makes her look like the absolute martyr-savior of The Lands Between. I would laugh and be all for it if you had to complete her storyline for full access to the DLC, but I think it's highly unlikely... sadly. ;)
Love hearing about the beings of Elden Ring. The lore of it is so fascinating and mysterious at the same time. It's only natural that you pause to explain to your viewers to base your knowledge on the topic 😊
By the way, just subscribed to your channel 😉
I always thought Godfrey was the reason for the Omen twins, since he was a champion of the Crucible Era. The Crucible Knights were actually his top soldiers. So the Omen Twins are a curse from his heritage
I love your "exploration" videos :D I hope you'll keep on doing them :)
On the last video, I've commented that you should watch next the videos of The Tarnished Archaeologist, just a small precision, use the playlist tab on his channel. Otherwise, you won't see everything and most importantly you won't see them in the good order
Maybe to help clear something up, Vaati is saying that without a doubt Radagon and Marika are the same person, they just switch between consciousness
48:17 depends on the horns. Deer antlers grow and fall like leaves. Cow horns grow throughout their lives.
I like you're view of the sympathetic villain. The anti-villain to accompany the established anti-hero. I would point you to perhaps the most iconic anti-villain in all of fantasy literature - Gollum from the Tolkien legendarium. An ultimately sympathetic character but also a murderer, thief and betrayer. GRRM uses both the anti-hero and the anti-villain extensively and it's no surprise that this is seen throughout Elden Ring.
3:05 There are quite a few of these sword graveyards in game, btw.
Keep going! I am absolutely loving you process these Vaati videos.
The twin thing does seem to be a thing - don’t forget the Twin Sage stone mask (only given to super important Burgerkin- I mean glintstone sorcerers). This video made me soften towards Fia…a bit, maybe and perhaps the events in her quest line didn’t merit the punishment I meted out :) Vaati, always making me rethink everything XD Also, does it matter if your mythology knowledge is secondhand? It was probably well-researched by the developers and it would take too long to learn otherwise ^_^
The Graveyard of Swords is an homage to the Hill of Swords from Berserk. Made by Rickert in memory of the Band of the Hawk.
In regard to why the M&M twins were afflicted from birth, I've always assumed it was like this: With incest there is a chance of an abnormal birth, with their parents being the actual same person it was like incest x10 along with a bit of the greater will saying "Bruh, that's fucked up" and thus their afflictions appeared.
I really love this channel. i cannot explain why, but I do.
I think if you love Elden Ring lore, you should watch Smoughtown and Tarnished Archaeologist, their videos are extremely interresting, and full of little details easily missed.
Btw, Hyetta (the eye eating girl's) quest leads to the "Lord of frenzied flame" ending, which is one of the 6 endings of the game. That ending even has a small added scene with Melina, if Melina didn't die by burning herself for you to enter the erdtree at this point in time (37:33). Because of Melina not supporting you becoming the lord of frenzied flame, she leaves your side and doesn't burn the erdtree for you when you completed Hyetta's quest before Melina has a chance to burn herself for you near the end of the game.
Maybe you could react to all of the 6 game endings as well.
I find Bloodborne really useful for thinking about the outer gods. Think about how Formless Oedon sired Mergo and influenced the world of BB, or how the moon turns out to be the Moon Presence, which has done a deal with/bewitched Gehrman, so is influencing the hunters dream/the hunters/etc.
Elden Ring feels like it takes this kinda concept in a bunch of different ways, with all sorts of 'external forces' trying to enact their will upon the lands between, whether it is Ranni meeting the dark moon, Renala meeting her full moon, the outer god of Rot influencing Malenia, Mohg interacting with the Formless Mother to use his cursed blood as a boon, the flame of frenzy with its own set of fingers, even the Golden Order - the most influential of them all, and the one we probably experience the most of, through its effects - from bestowing power to Marika, sending a big-ass golden space beast to the world, influencing the society of the Lands Between to change their customs and switch to worshipping gold/golden order/Greater Will.
It's just mad how deep From games are, in such an expertly crafted kind of way, rather than a more traditional way of conveying story and lore. Love 'em!
Loved it Emma it's so fun hearing their stories
I do believe that the Omen twins were like that due to Godfrey being very much of this world. If memory serves, it is heavily suggested that he was about and around way before Marika's ascension, meaning he was of the Crucible. After all he was the commander of the Crucible Knights.
Reason why Miquela and Malenia were afflicted is probably down to it being that their parent's were, as is heavily speculated, one and the same being, which is a whole new level of incest. That, typically produces genetic defects, so this is probably why.
Oh man I can't wait for the Miquella one! :D Loving these vids :)
Living for these lore vids
before I even knew the lore about the haligtree on my first play through, I got a sense of crazy sadness going through the haligtree.
In regard to your ponderings ~@27:40, I would highly suggest watching the Quelaag video about metals/magnetism. To me it was extremely insightful about the inner-/inter-workings of outer gods and how the different characters relate to them.
About the @31:00 musing: The gods in ER seem to sort of embody one principle, or overarching aspect (i.e., rot or order) which sort of dictates how the world operates as a whole. If that makes sense?
Sooooo, the TH-cam channel @Crecganford does GREAT analysis of folklore and mythology, he's very academic in terms of his qualifications but he presents things in a way that's really easy to digest. He has some videos about early death gods and he might well have something on Charon as well! Would love to see you watch some of his stuff - not that he's directly gaming related, and I know you're not a reaction channel, but I'm sure some edited highlights of his stuff would fit nicely into a wider understanding of some of the folklore of the Lands Between!
Glad he brought up Melina.. She's for sure a daughter. She wants to rebel and burn the erdtree and yeah. :) love that
To go with the twin thing, if you look close, almost every major faction has a weapon, spell, or crest or something with a double helix pattern on it. Pretty cool stuff
Still really digging these videos btw! Keep 'em coming lol
(Also I won't go into detail or anything, but my personal interpretation of Marika and the Golden Order is that in a similar fashion to how the multiple endings let us choose what sort of age we will be lord over? The previous Elden Lords also had a lot of say in what kind of era they would rule over. Godfrey is a mighty warrior who loves battle, so the early age of the Erdtree/Crucible was one of conquest and war and growth, and then Radagon was a man of reason and rules and maintaining order, so he created the Golden Order as we think of it with all its categories and prejudices and whatnot
Marika, in my opinion, is more of a neutral figure whose purpose is to make that lord's desire a reality... And then when that lord's time has passed, to remove them and find a new Elden Lord. The current situation we're in is because Radagon refuses to let her end his age and replace him, and her shattering the Elden Ring and calling back the Tarnished and all that is part of a long plan to outsmart him and finally remove him as lord)
I love that everyone is just on the same page (appropriately) for Rykard's speech as part of the serpent.
It's just funny that it's a meme unto itself that we all understand
TOGETHAAAA.
I have a minor in religious studies lol and how I interpret godhood for this game is that almost anything can be a god if the people believe that it is a god. It just so happens that what the people and creatures of Elden Ring believe to be a god have actual, real, and physical power in their world which probably makes them believe in it even more! Hopefully that makes sense 😅
18:36 “ why is she so blue” got me weak 🤣😂 its funny how we just come to accept things without questions. I never once thought why is she blue 🤣😂
You should take a look at Vaati's Elden Ring video called "The Blessing of Despair", probably his video with the highest production quality he has done so far
I sure love me some good ‘ol Lore N Chill hosted by Emmalition
30:26 again, check out video by Smoughtown, he details many things that could perhaps explain what outer gods are. In summary Many japanese elden ring community believes that outer gods has similar roles to those of Kami. A japanesse concept of Gods that embody themselves in parts of nature. In ER you got the god of rot, formless mother, blood-related good, etc. These are parts of nature in elden ring universe.
Vatii does great lore video. Prob the best at it tbh.
Let's gooooooooo!
We just need the Bloodborne vid.
Omg true. I’ve still not watched any BB lore. Just been relentlessly talked at by my knowledgeable friends 😂 of which I’m very grateful!
Love these videos please keep em coming. I suggest you watch vaati's Miquella video next I find Miquella to be the most interesting demigod and I think you'd enjoy his story. I also suggest watching vaati's prepare to cry videos specifically the ones on the frenzy flame and the age of disspare they both feel like watching a movie. Anyway great content can't wait for more of your vids
I think the reason why miquella and malenia were born affected is due to the theory the Merica and radagon are the same being, and being born from one single entity split in to 2 and then having kids, well that is just asking for trouble
Love these love these reactions ! Keep them coming.
Considering “horn” is one of the Aspects of the Crucible and Godfrey is a character with deep connection to the crucible, I’d argue it’s more likely that the Omen Horns came from his lineage. Goldwyn embodying Marika’s visage and Godfrey’s strength, with Mohg and Morgott embodying the primeval aspects of the crucible inherent to Godfrey and his crucible knights.
Funnily enough, the rot god specifically apparently has a physical form. There's a weapon in-game called the Scorpion's Stinger that is said to be "crafted from the relic of a sealed outer god". Relics IRL are pieces of the corpses of dead saints, so that weapon is literally made from a part of that outer god.
On people saying that "he was wrong" I think it's key to remember that these ones you're watching first were some of his earliest videos on elden ring. So new information will have been discovered since the making of the video
The Graveyard of Swords like so many things in the souls series was lifted straight from the Berserk manga.
Would love to see more to Vati’s Elden ring videos, the Miquella one is very good
I truly think Radahn stopped the stars to benefit his family, since it seems that by the time you defeat him and the stars move…There are no real forces left to play against Ranni. More than that, freeing the stars is the only reason i can see for Malenia attacking Radahn. Plus, the amber starlight you find is most likely Miquella’s fate.
45:11 what I assume you're trying to say is that there is a motif of 2s in this game;
Godskin duo boss,
Mogh and morgott,
Marika and radagon,
Miquella and malenia,
This world has 2 moons,
2 different elden lords,
2 sets of demigod twins,
I could go Abit further but you get the point
13:50 Divorced her and took her kids? Damn no wonder she was so sad when you meet her.
Fun fact: it is a widely accepted theory that Melina is actually the gloam-eyed queen. Or rather - a reborn version of her. We know that Marika had the Gloam-eyed queen burned alive with the very black flame that she commanded. In the same way - Melina is said to be "burned and bodiless" nothing more than a spirit, an apparition. There is also a lot of other evidenceand subtle hints like for example Melina having the same exact moveset in combat like the Black Knife Assassins, etc etc... My working theory is that while Marika was imprisoned inside the Erdtree she used a fragment of the Gloam-eyed queen's spirit to create and "give birth" to Melina - the burned and bodiless. With the purpose of her acting as a kindling maiden to a chosen tarnished - which, in the end she did.
The editor notes about her processing the concept of a god in real time were hillarious
"Wait till she hears about the concept of 'faith'"
Really cool videos about lore. I like to see lore, but hearing someone comment and react makes those videos easier to digest.
Godwyn’s corpse is probably the scariest thing I’ve ever seen in a video game
8:56 This explains me as a gamer in RPG's that provide free choice. I have a conscience in regard to NPC's of all things and it's why in Elden Ring, after I watched all of Vaati's lore explanations, I avoided combat with the omen in the sewers JUST for the fact I felt sympathy towards them. From the simple perspective of playing a video game, it's a ridiculous notion- and yet it there it is, reminding me I'm human.
31:19 same… I really want to know what these things look like… despite knowing that it would just be the equivalent of a puddle of star dust or rot or blood or what ever else….. kinda frustrating sometimes.
A video I’d recommend for elden ring lore is a video from a channel called SmoughTown called elden ring story timeline.
It helps having some context for when certain events took place when looking at elden rings lore.
Your thoughts on villains with twisted up bringing. Example Netflix Daredevil the Kingpin character. His twisted upbringing made him into the monster he became. If you haven't look watched it I recommend it.
The black knife assassin is the same with the cult of phantom is assassin in Dota 2, in which all the members are all female, and their figure is similar with dark blue/black armor that they wear.
Hey Emma, I recently found your channel from this video and I’ve started watching your elden ring playthrough! Idk how you don’t have more subscribers, I find you very intelligent and entertaining, have a nice day (:
I love these vids so much!
The omen twins were probably born because Godfrey had a connection to the crucible growing up and battling in the early days before the Erd tree. Mekkala, and Malania are super incest twins, being born from literally two people who are the same person
The haligtree was a place of sanctuary and safety for those who were shunned by the rest of the world.
The entire area is optional, as such the player has to actively choose to go there, invade the sanctuary, and slaughter those who reside peacefully within.
Something to think about in your next play through...
I believe the twins were born afflicted because by this time, even before the Shattering, Marika had already sealed Destined Death, which was an act against the Greater Will. The Greater Will, in retaliation, could have corrupted her children. That would also explain Morgott and Mogh being born as omens, not under the Greater Will's grace. So Godwin would have been the only pure offspring of Marika.. If you think about it, she might have sealed Destined Death to keep Godwin alive forever, causing all her children after that to be cursed and afflicted. Like Freya and her son who she cursed with eternal life without any feeling, Marika's love and need to keep her firstborn child alive cursed the rest after him.
It's just my theory of the possible reasons why Radahn held back the stars, was because I think the Elden Beast was a star that came to the Land Between. And if the stars can bring in beasts like Astel, who can be persume to have been sent by outer gods to conqueror the lands between, as did the greater will and the elden beast vs the dragon god placidusax and his outer god. Then Radahn would held back the stars, to keep competition from the Elden Beast thus upholding the Golden Order.
its worth noting that (I'm pretty sure) Ranni's doll skin is blue because it is porcelain, and being roughly 5k years old, the once white porcelain has permanently changed color
About Mogh being a "justified villain".
My father's mother never wanted or loved him. In fact, she dispised him and left to other country, and he lived most of his childhood with his grandmother in a small town. They were poor, and he usually wandered in the streets stealing food.
When he grew up he went to live in the capital city, but never achieved to become a mature and responsible person, he was impulsive and spendthrift. At some point, he met my mother and had me, but never acted really as a father. When I was 10 or so, despite he was unenployed he was not capable of getting up early to take me to the school, and when I reached 14 (aproximately) he left home. Although he was still in contact with my mother and me, he never give her any money to support her with my upbringing.
So I also had to grew up without my father the same way he had to without his mother, and yes, I see some of his attitudes and defects in myself. But now that I am an adult person, I am aware of them and can work in myself to mitigate and correct them. To the point that I decided not to have children unless I can prove to myself that I can overcome them.
So yes, we all are influenced by our environment, specially during childhood, but when we become adults we have the capacity (even the responsibility) to identify in which ways that evironment conditionated us and work to be the person who we want to be.
Lovin these lore videos. I hope when the dlc comes out you do a replay of the game plus dlc. I think you should consider it. I love this game so much I ended up making 5 more characters all turned out to be challenge runs.