Okay I got word from the OP apparently they have had 8-9 strikes before the ban and I do not know why that wasn't mentioned in the story!!! So not all OPs are saints or truthful with story submissions but I do like to give OPs the benefit of the doubt and it's always fun to go detective mode and analyze some things specially with the yt comments and my chat's comments of the live reading. After hearing he got 8-9 strikes before being banned I can only assume these strikes were from mods or harassments. Which makes me think back to him flirting with that guy and almost building a house in his state. That could be massive stalker vibes and too fast and remembering how mean his past lover was that might be the reason they became angry or something happened which made the FC and linkshells act more distant towards him. A lot of people must have seen something off with his actions. Making 3 different characters also in a game also seems sketch like you could be running away from something possibly. Then coming to me to make me read a story with an audience to have sympathy towards you to make you feel better while leaving a lot of details/info out was his final way to make him feel better or valid for his possible bad actions. FF14 community is a great one and if a lot of people didn't like you with 3 different characters then you are probably the reason.
This is strange... the only way X could have reported OP (and the others) is if they had Mare themselves, which in turn would get X banned himself. More importantly: if you're using the Default Penumbra profile or are just using TexTools, other people will appear modded on screenshots, no matter if they don't have anything installed themselves or even if they're a console player. Basically a report of this nature is _impossible_ unless the person reporting is using mods themselves, and could technically get a console player banned if what OP says is true. This would be _insane_ and I can't believe SE would be _THAT_ careless. So either OP got banned for something else and didn't realize it, the GM (or whomever did the ban) is a troglodyte and truly awful at their job, or OP is just not being entirely truthful. If one could just install TexTools and go around taking screenshots of whomever they hate and using that as the basis for a report, I feel more stories of this kind of abuse would have made the rounds, yet this is the first time I'm hearing a story like this. I'm sorry, but as much as I feel for OP, I just don't trust them, and I'm taking this story with a massive grain of salt.
Yep exactly. Hard to imagine SE doesn't know about all this. If one can see a whole mare group modded, that person is modding themself. But in all honesty SE and their protocols on reporting and banning... ehhh.. There is definitely information missing in this story.
Late to the party but penumbra can be set up only to mod your own appearance. But yeah screenshots of others modded characters doesn't prove anything. It only proves the one takin the shot is modding. Either by Mare or Penumbra but there's no proof that anyone else is.
Sounds extremely sus. I feel like we aren't getting the whole story here. There's no way a GM takes someones screenshots as proof for modding. You could just use mods and look at ANYONE in game from 1st person and be like "Look they are using mods, but not me, you cant see my character" cause they are clientside only. Even with Mare it would be such a slippery slope that would require a closer inspection. So I think the OP isn't telling us everything here, probably advertised it in public or hollered about it in public. It takes multiple people, and they don't just instantly permaban you. So definitely something else was going on there.
Yea, I agree. As a person who has been using mods for years on FF along with Mare, the chances of someone getting banned like this is very unlikely, and I doubt they are telling the complete story.
As soon as she said Fairie, I knew this was gonna go from ugly to uglier. Also, chat is right, not even the people that recently got caught cheating with addons during the world first race for omega ultimate got perma banned. IIRC they all got 10 day bans and then got shamed so bad by the community that they deleted their charactors.
talking about first-hand exp, you don't get banned for using visual mods, even with the NSFW one. However, you would get a warning strike tho (you got an email for it). enough strikes, you will be banned for 24h. Next one will be worse (probably a week). One member of World First team got banned (can't remember who), but because they streamed it, so they got banned for 3 days, LOL. Bagel got banned for a week too I think (streamming the mod is considered worse than getting caught with picture). But the point is: you don't get perma-ban for visual mods.
Been using and making all kinds of mods for years I've yet to see any warnings or bans even know people that stream with mods and tbh I'm unsure if devs care as long as it stays lowkey.
This whole mod story is kinda weird or a really unlucky situation... first of all, it's really strange that people get banned due to one single report. Also, AFAIK... since mods are client-side, you're not supposed to take screenshots of other people's mods, unless you already have a couple 3rd party tools installed. I don't know if the GMs (or whoever banned the OP's account) didn't care about this basic premise or didn't realize that the person who actually reported was also using mods too see them.
It's extremely sus. Reporting someone with your own screenies for mods, while mods are clientside only should not happen. I call bull on this. Its such a slippery slope that could be used to target anyone by just going 1st person and looking at other people with "mods" when its only visible on your side that I don't think the GM's would do such a mistake. So I feel like they were hollering stuff out in public or something similar. And I doubt the devs are that hip to Mare and if they are its also an extremely slippery slope like firing bans blindly cause someone can abuse it to witch hunt or just target random people by saying "Oh yeah we are on the same syncshell".
Hi, I'm involved with the aether Venue scene! I can help shed a bit a light on things over here. One. We do have vigilante mod reporters. Their is a blacklist shared around with some of the more prolific names. They use mare to get evidence of mods to then mass report. It's a issue. 2. This ban took place right around the time of the TOP cheater scandal and the housing lottery ward expansions. Feelings where riding high and their was alot of salt. Had a guy threaten my fc leader with a bunch of fish with a murder theme in their description. 3. FF is a great community but damn is it also toxic as fuck when in the right crowds. Or dealing with Kurger Bing crowns. So gonna be completely honest to say OP could've had this intense hate stalker/bully on them this entire time. I've seen it to many times and just had to help a coworker at the venue I run keep his stalker out if the venue. The OP left alot of holes as it usually takes alot to premaban. But FCs turning silent on newbies, groups distancing themselves due to cliche mentalities, the story elitism from others when you don't know where something is. That's all real and I am not surprised by it in story.
cool care to explain how they can report mods without themselves getting banned you cannot see mare unless you also have it further more at that point you can literally make players look like they are the ones actually with the mod. . as an example i knew someone that laughed at me because I wore a certain glam because on their end the glam was a lace undergarments', Im not modded they are.
@@TheamayaonnaotakuBlogspot yes i clearly know its not for that you cannot get ban for client side mods unless you are literally shouting it out publicly in chat. even then square is likely to just give you a slap on the wrist or a suspension at worst. hell the worlds first were only punished after outcry about it. I dont care about the pinned message the video is wrong honestly it should be taken down or edited to point out that the story is clearly a lie. TNobody0214 comment also has massive holes which I am in my right to call out BS.
@@aikidodude05 Pathra is keeping it to remind story submitters to go ahead and submit but if you heavily embellish or straight up lie, don't be surprized if you get drug in the comments
I dunno. The going through ARR THREE TIMES, The random assholery of the other, the joining the mod ring with no thought. The whole things smells fishy to me. Feeling like there’s a lot the OP left out
TBH as soon as I heard they'd flagged their plate with GWM, I thought about the people I know in-game who are like that, and made a lot of presumptions that made it make sense.
Here's the thing with Mare. Don't frigging post your code in public. People got super excited about it but never think about what someone can do with your personal character data. Even the dev knew of possible bad actors. Some people asked for "auto-sync". There's a big reason why they didn't do that. Stated multiple times. Some modders really don't know how to practice basic security habits. As one of the other third party tool devs I've seen say: "Play stupid games win stupid prizes". That said... This OP is leaving a lot of details out just from the way the story sounds. I'm not excusing Person X's behavior... But this whole thing sounds a little sus.
Before we got to the end I'd agree but by the end Person X came off like a manipulative tool. Bragging about getting people banned over mods, when you're using them, and happy you'll have a shot at a house because you got the owner banned is pretty messed up.
@@ditzyhere3138 oh Person X is a piece of crap yes that behavior is inexcusable. But I'm very wary of this entire story. Like. All of it. Screenshots are generally taken as evidence from the modders perspectives. If the focus of the middle of the screenshot is the player who is "reporting" (and let's face it people don't think about stuff too much) then it incriminates the person reporting rather than say... A screenshot taken by the modder that's circulating around.
@@shadowofchaos725 yeah, I’m wondering if that whole group of people are just really toxic and are installing really questionable mods since Pathra updated that they had a bunch of reports prior. OP def omitted stuff to gain sympathy.
@@ditzyhere3138 the question is does person x even actually exist remember you dont have to have mare to be "modded" on someone else screen. so unless your bragging in chat about being modded, screenshots are not going to do you a lick of good.
Like many of the comments here, it is weird that OP got perma banned for that report. The mod is client side whether you use either Penumbra or TexTools it shouldn't reflect in Player X's screen. If that was the case, then any vanilla player could be banned just because the player reporting has mods on and claim that the vanilla player has mods.
Idk about the mod stuff. Normally people get a suspension. A ban would involve something else… But I do have to say, that in all the times I took a break from this game, it had something to do with people, and not the gameplay. This game is played by a bunch of strangers on the internet. Proceed with caution. Especially with your heart, rl housing, money, etc.
People are calling this sus but I got to the part about people arguing in Sastasha and I'm like "This is the most sus of all". But yeah this is so dumb, you literally can't SEE mods unless you're running mods yourself, so logically the only person who should have gotten banned was "person X". Kinda makes you wonder if OP wasn't actually the one taking the screenshots and it backfired. 😂
Tbh I'd have left that FC when I'd asked help for Satasha and got ignored. It takes like 10 minutes to run through? Maybe less than 5 if you're unsynced? Anyways, only share your mare code with friends you know you can trust.
This story seems like a long winded way to say “gcbtw”. Either he’s the unluckiest man in the world or the story is heavily embellished. I’m leaning towards the latter
Tale old as time. It’s a gay person initiation! We all fall for our 1st straight guy and they crushes our heart HARD. There is no stoping it, it happens. The real lesson comes from how you deal with it once you’re out the darkness.
This story is layers of drama with some missing info it seems. If I lost my house I'd probably quit playing also, I don't blame OP. Great reading Pathra 💖
yea getting a perma ban for visual mods and the whole FC/CWLS ghosting him and NOTHING that this OP did caused this? Hence why I said this story has more holes than swiss cheese.
I have 2992 commendations and can count on my fingers the number of bad experiences with other players. I also really enjoy helping sprouts through content. I literally ran prea and Ultima weapon fight the other day because I saw a sprout ask about it in novice network.
I agree, a lot of people will have one or two bad experiences and go "The entire FF14 community is bad and toxic, I'm going back to playing WoW" but I feel that's just part of life, for the most part the good experiences I've had in 14 have outweighed the bad
I stopped doing a majority of sidequests at a certain point in Stormblood, i figured i could always doing them on a different job for the extra exp. They are still unfinished to this day. xD
Idk... story is fishy, and I do have to say, as a gay person myself, the most toxic players in the game that I have met, are "queens" or should I say more flamboyant gay guys. Can we just have normal conversations without having to mention dicks and sex? I get the obsession, but please, for the love of Hydaelyn, STOP! And whenever I voice an opinion like this to these bunch of people, they'll say I have internalized homophobia or slap a label on me as a racist or whatever... like... ???? So nowadays, whenever I see "LGBTQ+ - XYZ whatever the eff friendly", I stay away. I don't want to be associated with a group of people who cannot handle opinions.
Pretty sus story. And very emotional person to keep saying supposedly good community. It's has its good and bad like all communities. I don't know if they were expecting to be treated like a King hy every person. Debating on building a house like that, blaming the entire community, the end rant. Very.. emotional person.
Being a console player, I thought 'Mods' in the title were referring to moderators xD I don't know how they work but if what everyone is saying is true (which makes sense) I hope you bringing this story to light will make those involved share their side.
I've been playing since 2013 but I've never heard Mare synchronos until today. That's crazy how modders are so creative. This reminds me of an old movie called "They Live" where a guy finds a magical sunglasses that lets them see the alternate form.
This story has some plot holes... Imma need OP to come back and fill them in because I'm nosy with stories like this. I use technically two mods... a UI mod that changes the font of the markers you put down on the ground slightly (I'm dyslexic and the original font I can't process which letters are what and can't see if its a square or circle always) and the other just puts a wedge of where I'm looking on my map. I just use them cause I have poor eyesight and wish they were in the game unmodded. :(
...I know ff14 is a social game, but man ppl take it way too seriously. And there is a hell of a lot info missing from this story. If a bunch of ppl got banned enmasse the lodestone forum wouldn't shut up about it.
I feel so bad for OP, im not sure what its like on other servers but in EU mods are really common and aslong as you dont publicly discuss them, you are fine, so that fact 1 snake reported EVERYONE at the party is so sad
I wonder if this guy returned to dungeons around the time the wow exodus started.. as before that i rarely ever encounter bad partys yet after it became normal to atleast encounter 1 a week if not more.
People using mare are very open in the game chat about it to the point of literally linking mods in the in game chat. So provided OP was careless in chat....
Out of my 1800 hours, I can't really remember a bad experience I've had in a duty with other players. There was even a time when during an alliance raid, 1 person in my party had their gear all break because we wiped a few times (some due to us, some due to other parties); but no one really blamed him or told him to leave because we were all synced down & it was the final boss.
The big drama in this game is that he fucking played ARR 3 fucking times lmao. Posting a link of mare to outsiders is such a fucking BAD idea. You do NOT wanna do that with people you don't trust obviously. People are out there just fuck with you. It's also interesting that the one who got everyone banned couldn't even see the mods without Mare, a third party software. The GMs are pretty stupid that they couldn't put two and two together.
The mare registration itself said that to be careful to who you pair / sync with. So the way to make it safe is just purely to be careful who you join with. The OP fault other than using mods itself is was joining a really big Sync-Shell Usually you pair only 1 by 1 like trading pair code but syncshell made it so the entire group instantly synced. Which is bad if you joined a public one or huge one and you dont know who they are. My advice if you want to use mare, make sure you trust everyone u paired with.
Wow OP is super unlucky :D Perm ban? smell super fishy. Even the recent drama with "world first" didn't make them perm ban. Also how third party can take screen of someone modded character if mods are stricle client side and you can't even say if someone use mods unless he post screen of his character itself.
I think the true morale of the story is... If you use visual mods don't tell others about it. Its really that simple. The story doesn't make any sense only the user of the said mod can see it in their game. He got reported b/c he shared screenshots of using them in discord
great story, but as some one that has been in that side of the community... (don't ask) as your chat mention in the end, if that x person would of report, that x person would of got banned as well. see mods of others you need mods your self. And I'm sure Square knows that. Maybe the OP exaggerated the story to make it more impactful. But I know people that has been banned for mods and none of them get perma banned.
I don't understand how anyone could have such a bad luck. I have played MMORPG for a long time. One thing i learned quickly was to never talk about real life stuff. Needless to say, it got me into trouble way too much.
they cant because its a fake story. unless your streaming and showing that you have mods or constantly screaming that your using mods in chat texture mods are literally cant be proven. the accuser has to have a mod to be able to see your mods and at that point its are you modded or do they have a mod that makes you look that way.
MARE gives a huge warning with red letters when it comes to share codes... Why would anyone share it with so many people?! It should only be shared with a very closed inner circle or your ERP partner. About insta ban for Lalafells mods mentioned at the end, that's also not real. Has anyone seen Twitter? There are modded lalas with their name and homeworld public, still playing. I personally don't care these exist, I don't think of them as children, but there are many of these lala enjoyers who have modified their characters to make them look like actual toddlers, diapers included. Not even those get banned and I fail to understand why. I've heard about a catgirl courtesan from Sargatanas whose character modded appearance looks very similar to Khloe Aliapoh (the WT journal girl from Ydillshire). Even though I haven't seen this particular one, I have spotted accounts with pictures of Kan-E-Senna's twin siblings, Yozan and Ryne. It's inevitable to find these accounts after following a couple NSFW gposers. I can pass some Lalafell mods because they don't look human, but Yozan, Ryne and the Senna twins are a different story. Fine, it's not real, but just like serial killers can start killing bugs, then birds, then cats and ultimately people, those who mod characters into 12 year olds can escalate too.
i think the problem OP has, is that he cannot stay out of the drama,.. sometimes if you want to start fresh you need disassociate from a previous group, also change your name/persona.
Hey! I've played ARR a few times because I just like creating different WoL characters and having different headcanons for them (and it takes so little time to breeze through ARR I don't bother with story skips)! Not everyone who creates new characters are sus! With that said, I have a feeling that OP isn't being truthful at all, especially in light of Pathra's pinned message. I'm sure OP did something much worse and is just using mods as an excuse as to why they got banned.
I know very well how a in-game relationship could go from something magical to a nightmare, and goes all way to IRL also. The game itself put you throught an emotional roller coaster and is so inmersive so that kind of things, just happend. Also, as an LGBT community member, I could understand how much the struggles facing by being different or not be able just to fit may baised some behaivors I went throught some shitty situations IRL because of something in game, but also, FFXIV save me in my worst momments during COVID I dont try to justify OP, just only give some matter of perspective and understanding
Huh? How can you get reported for using mods? I am confused. I thought it was safe unless you post mods+in game name on social media/discord servers that go reported? I feel for this OP..........I don't think he did anymore wrong than any other players but the reporting is confusing to me.......
I mean, yeah, they did that to themselves with the mods, but assuming the story is true, they had a bulk of negative experiences much earlier than their Mod Era. I think it's unfair to accuse OP of blaming the community for something they did themselves, when they've been around toxicity long before that. Again, assuming the story is even true...
this sounds... interesting lol. the only way X could report these modders was if he also had mare? im pretty sure SE would notice that as well, or at least i hope so. also screenshot evidence is not really helpful, because you can apply your mods or characters onto other people. plus photoshop exists! reporting for using mods is useless because the person reporting HAS to have mods to know. im not exactly sure OP is being truthful here
Honestly the FCs that advertise as "friendly and ready to help", in my experience at least, are anything but and are super cliquey. There have been a couple I've been in as a sprout that claimed as such and were unhelpful and rude if asked for help with dungeons.
so what you're telling me is if i have mods on i can go around snipping screenshots of people and getting them banned for using third party tools? yeah this whole story just seems like a bunch of bullcrap strung together to gather petty amounts of clout
If you think I wrote this story I did not. People submit a lot of stories to me. Im old and I do not want or need clout I just enjoy making content for the game I enjoy playing! This op sounded jaded. I wish I knew why they left out a lot of details but even so I always enjoy sus stories so everyone else can catch the lies! There are many other stories and different types of OPs I find it always so much fun to read 😊
@@pathra no i 100% understand that the story wasn't made by you it just sounds very weird given the update of having prior warnings on their account that just wasn't mentioned in their first story it just seems really weird to me by no means was i attempting to call you out personally and i apologize if that's how it came off
Sorry I've only discovered you recently so this might sound harsh, but I'd strongly encourage vetting stories more thoroughly before sharing them, especially before making a video of them. Getting people banned simply for sharing modded screenshots isn't possible, it would only get the person filing the report banned, as they would have to have mods on for everyone (even non modded characters) or no one. Even though they could theoretically have just Mare connections enabled and mods on their Penumbra disabled so only THEIR character is vanilla and everyone they are synced with in the vicinity is modded, nobody on staff is dumb enough to think that they would be able to submit screenshots like that on a vanilla game installation. We're talking about staff that is notoriously known in the community for still not doing anything with proof and several reports of players that give death threats and doxxing *in game*, stalking, harassment, and so on but ban Ultimate raiders mid prog for having a modded countdown timer or debuff timers on stream. They won't lift a finger without a mountain load of proof because it's simply too risky for them. In short, either the OP completely BSed you and their ban was a result of going tit for tat and stirring up constant drama and wanted to use your platform as a "I told you so!" to his friends, or was BSing you to stir up a false narrative to make the anti-mod stans seem more "in the right." Either option there only makes them seem more insane.
Thank you for your input! I didn’t know much about this area with mods so I definitely thought it was juicy like I said in my reaction part of this video. I still think it’s a story a lot can learn about since my chat knew what was up either way and same with the yt comments. Also that’s the fun and beauty with me reading drama stories that are submitted, to go detective mode and study/analyze them.
Yea this story is definitely a bit off. No one gets banned off a screenshot at least not one like described in the story and OP also seems pretty dumb, they pretty much let this one person ruin the entire game for them and for some odd reason thought it necessary to delete thier old characters and make multiple new characters and do arr three times. Theres litererally no reason that OP should have done that unless they were just trying to burn themselves out and this is coming from a person who has done ARR twice except instead of deleting my character like a fool I used New Game + and my reason for doing it was fully understand the story because like op on my first run I skipped the cutscenes and rushed through and just watching the cutscene journal in the inn room does not give you enough context to understand the story. I dont think OP is the only one at fault here cause it does seem like they met an asshole but that one person should not have caused him this much of am inconvenience and there seems to be a lot more to this story that they are not telling so no the moral of this story is not to "Dont use mods unless you want to lose everything" its more like "dont get 8 - 9 strikes on your account being an idiot and then tell a story about how your completely innocent and its just the games fault that you made dumb choices." I have been using mods and plugins on FF for years and used mare and linked with countless people and I dont have a single strike on my account. Just dont be dumb simple.
As some who uses mods I been using them for a whole year. Just wanna clarify. Op is bullshitting. Honestly speaking. The rule dont show don't tell is a point that is hammered home. Op is lying cause if the guy who took pictures reported them he get ban as well cause he can see mods aka 3rd party tool was used. Also op is lying further cause mods are client side. Either op made it up or is trying to talk omitt facts that lead up to this
I'm late, but this just sounds like fear mongering bait to me. A large chunk of the player base uses mods and mare and SE knows this. As since discovered the OP had more issues than just some body hair. All around just do your thing, be kind to others, and don't be blatantly obvious about it such as talking about it in say/yell/shout chat and others you hardly know.
Is nobody gonna talk about how slow his progression is but mod stuff progresses fast? played for several hours, on the new account they made with cousin (sure it was mainly hud stuff, whatever), played for who knows how long and gets invited to a FC, (still not at the first dungeon?) but enough time has gone by that the FC folks trust em enough to be like "Yo, bro, here's stuff that could be used to report us. I know you've been here for at least a week, have shown no evidence of using nor knowing about these but here download this". All before the first dungeon at level 15? Did bro really just do everything but MSQ everytime they got on in the start? Makes no sense.
How can you get someone else banned for using mods? You need the mods installed to see them no? Also getting offered mods in XIV now seems like grooming. They just want to get you into erp
This one is full of bs. The cousin give a game he owned. Open the computer and look, the icon of FFXIV is there? And no one notice? The GM part, yeah no. So much doesnt fit.
Watching this as a sprout (First MMO actually) and seeing that I picked the "gay server" I am extremely gay, and my chars name is even a pun off of my pronouns, They/Them I'm so glad I picked right
Okay I got word from the OP apparently they have had 8-9 strikes before the ban and I do not know why that wasn't mentioned in the story!!!
So not all OPs are saints or truthful with story submissions but I do like to give OPs the benefit of the doubt and it's always fun to go detective mode and analyze some things specially with the yt comments and my chat's comments of the live reading. After hearing he got 8-9 strikes before being banned I can only assume these strikes were from mods or harassments. Which makes me think back to him flirting with that guy and almost building a house in his state. That could be massive stalker vibes and too fast and remembering how mean his past lover was that might be the reason they became angry or something happened which made the FC and linkshells act more distant towards him. A lot of people must have seen something off with his actions. Making 3 different characters also in a game also seems sketch like you could be running away from something possibly.
Then coming to me to make me read a story with an audience to have sympathy towards you to make you feel better while leaving a lot of details/info out was his final way to make him feel better or valid for his possible bad actions. FF14 community is a great one and if a lot of people didn't like you with 3 different characters then you are probably the reason.
jesus 8-9 strikes. so i guess the op has done some things too lol
8 or 9? And they blame the community?
And this was their second account?
Makes me wonder what the eight or nine strikes were for. I knew the OP was leaving a LOT out
I think the reason the OP “forgot” to mention about the strikes was to paint the community bad and to garner sympathy.
@@TheamayaonnaotakuBlogspot yeah you're not gonna just get that many strikes from "doing nothing"
This is strange... the only way X could have reported OP (and the others) is if they had Mare themselves, which in turn would get X banned himself.
More importantly: if you're using the Default Penumbra profile or are just using TexTools, other people will appear modded on screenshots, no matter if they don't have anything installed themselves or even if they're a console player. Basically a report of this nature is _impossible_ unless the person reporting is using mods themselves, and could technically get a console player banned if what OP says is true.
This would be _insane_ and I can't believe SE would be _THAT_ careless. So either OP got banned for something else and didn't realize it, the GM (or whomever did the ban) is a troglodyte and truly awful at their job, or OP is just not being entirely truthful. If one could just install TexTools and go around taking screenshots of whomever they hate and using that as the basis for a report, I feel more stories of this kind of abuse would have made the rounds, yet this is the first time I'm hearing a story like this.
I'm sorry, but as much as I feel for OP, I just don't trust them, and I'm taking this story with a massive grain of salt.
Yep exactly. Hard to imagine SE doesn't know about all this. If one can see a whole mare group modded, that person is modding themself.
But in all honesty SE and their protocols on reporting and banning... ehhh..
There is definitely information missing in this story.
Yep; this story smells fake tbh.
Late to the party but penumbra can be set up only to mod your own appearance. But yeah screenshots of others modded characters doesn't prove anything. It only proves the one takin the shot is modding. Either by Mare or Penumbra but there's no proof that anyone else is.
Sounds extremely sus. I feel like we aren't getting the whole story here. There's no way a GM takes someones screenshots as proof for modding. You could just use mods and look at ANYONE in game from 1st person and be like "Look they are using mods, but not me, you cant see my character" cause they are clientside only. Even with Mare it would be such a slippery slope that would require a closer inspection. So I think the OP isn't telling us everything here, probably advertised it in public or hollered about it in public. It takes multiple people, and they don't just instantly permaban you. So definitely something else was going on there.
Yea, I agree. As a person who has been using mods for years on FF along with Mare, the chances of someone getting banned like this is very unlikely, and I doubt they are telling the complete story.
As soon as she said Fairie, I knew this was gonna go from ugly to uglier. Also, chat is right, not even the people that recently got caught cheating with addons during the world first race for omega ultimate got perma banned. IIRC they all got 10 day bans and then got shamed so bad by the community that they deleted their charactors.
Lots of missing details in this story. I hope we get a follow up on this at some point or maybe another perspective.
Exactly you don't get a perma ban for visual mods, the only way first offense goes to perma ban is RMT.
talking about first-hand exp, you don't get banned for using visual mods, even with the NSFW one. However, you would get a warning strike tho (you got an email for it). enough strikes, you will be banned for 24h. Next one will be worse (probably a week).
One member of World First team got banned (can't remember who), but because they streamed it, so they got banned for 3 days, LOL. Bagel got banned for a week too I think (streamming the mod is considered worse than getting caught with picture). But the point is: you don't get perma-ban for visual mods.
Yeah agreed, this story is leaving out a lot of details.
smells a lot of BS on many many part, either the author leaving a lot of info to paint themselve not looks bad or the whole story are made up
Great reading as always dude! I’m so happy to be able to support such a wonderful streamer for a game I love. Cheers dude keep it goin!
Been using and making all kinds of mods for years I've yet to see any warnings or bans even know people that stream with mods and tbh I'm unsure if devs care as long as it stays lowkey.
This whole mod story is kinda weird or a really unlucky situation... first of all, it's really strange that people get banned due to one single report. Also, AFAIK... since mods are client-side, you're not supposed to take screenshots of other people's mods, unless you already have a couple 3rd party tools installed. I don't know if the GMs (or whoever banned the OP's account) didn't care about this basic premise or didn't realize that the person who actually reported was also using mods too see them.
It's extremely sus. Reporting someone with your own screenies for mods, while mods are clientside only should not happen. I call bull on this. Its such a slippery slope that could be used to target anyone by just going 1st person and looking at other people with "mods" when its only visible on your side that I don't think the GM's would do such a mistake. So I feel like they were hollering stuff out in public or something similar. And I doubt the devs are that hip to Mare and if they are its also an extremely slippery slope like firing bans blindly cause someone can abuse it to witch hunt or just target random people by saying "Oh yeah we are on the same syncshell".
Hi, I'm involved with the aether Venue scene! I can help shed a bit a light on things over here. One. We do have vigilante mod reporters. Their is a blacklist shared around with some of the more prolific names. They use mare to get evidence of mods to then mass report. It's a issue.
2. This ban took place right around the time of the TOP cheater scandal and the housing lottery ward expansions. Feelings where riding high and their was alot of salt. Had a guy threaten my fc leader with a bunch of fish with a murder theme in their description.
3. FF is a great community but damn is it also toxic as fuck when in the right crowds. Or dealing with Kurger Bing crowns. So gonna be completely honest to say OP could've had this intense hate stalker/bully on them this entire time. I've seen it to many times and just had to help a coworker at the venue I run keep his stalker out if the venue.
The OP left alot of holes as it usually takes alot to premaban. But FCs turning silent on newbies, groups distancing themselves due to cliche mentalities, the story elitism from others when you don't know where something is. That's all real and I am not surprised by it in story.
Found out this guy had eight or nine strikes prior
cool care to explain how they can report mods without themselves getting banned you cannot see mare unless you also have it further more at that point you can literally make players look like they are the ones actually with the mod. . as an example i knew someone that laughed at me because I wore a certain glam because on their end the glam was a lace undergarments', Im not modded they are.
@@aikidodude05 it wasn't for that, see Pathra's pinned comment. He had eight to nine strikes prior to the ban
@@TheamayaonnaotakuBlogspot yes i clearly know its not for that you cannot get ban for client side mods unless you are literally shouting it out publicly in chat.
even then square is likely to just give you a slap on the wrist or a suspension at worst. hell the worlds first were only punished after outcry about it.
I dont care about the pinned message the video is wrong honestly it should be taken down or edited to point out that the story is clearly a lie. TNobody0214 comment also has massive holes which I am in my right to call out BS.
@@aikidodude05 Pathra is keeping it to remind story submitters to go ahead and submit but if you heavily embellish or straight up lie, don't be surprized if you get drug in the comments
I dunno. The going through ARR THREE TIMES, The random assholery of the other, the joining the mod ring with no thought. The whole things smells fishy to me. Feeling like there’s a lot the OP left out
Yea it’s weird, running through sastasha and saying first time even though he already did all ARR quests before hand, nani
TBH as soon as I heard they'd flagged their plate with GWM, I thought about the people I know in-game who are like that, and made a lot of presumptions that made it make sense.
Here's the thing with Mare.
Don't frigging post your code in public.
People got super excited about it but never think about what someone can do with your personal character data.
Even the dev knew of possible bad actors. Some people asked for "auto-sync". There's a big reason why they didn't do that. Stated multiple times.
Some modders really don't know how to practice basic security habits. As one of the other third party tool devs I've seen say: "Play stupid games win stupid prizes".
That said... This OP is leaving a lot of details out just from the way the story sounds. I'm not excusing Person X's behavior... But this whole thing sounds a little sus.
Before we got to the end I'd agree but by the end Person X came off like a manipulative tool. Bragging about getting people banned over mods, when you're using them, and happy you'll have a shot at a house because you got the owner banned is pretty messed up.
@@ditzyhere3138 oh Person X is a piece of crap yes that behavior is inexcusable.
But I'm very wary of this entire story. Like. All of it.
Screenshots are generally taken as evidence from the modders perspectives.
If the focus of the middle of the screenshot is the player who is "reporting" (and let's face it people don't think about stuff too much) then it incriminates the person reporting rather than say... A screenshot taken by the modder that's circulating around.
@@shadowofchaos725 yeah, I’m wondering if that whole group of people are just really toxic and are installing really questionable mods since Pathra updated that they had a bunch of reports prior. OP def omitted stuff to gain sympathy.
@@ditzyhere3138 the question is does person x even actually exist remember you dont have to have mare to be "modded" on someone else screen. so unless your bragging in chat about being modded, screenshots are not going to do you a lick of good.
Like many of the comments here, it is weird that OP got perma banned for that report. The mod is client side whether you use either Penumbra or TexTools it shouldn't reflect in Player X's screen. If that was the case, then any vanilla player could be banned just because the player reporting has mods on and claim that the vanilla player has mods.
Idk about the mod stuff. Normally people get a suspension. A ban would involve something else… But I do have to say, that in all the times I took a break from this game, it had something to do with people, and not the gameplay. This game is played by a bunch of strangers on the internet. Proceed with caution. Especially with your heart, rl housing, money, etc.
People are calling this sus but I got to the part about people arguing in Sastasha and I'm like "This is the most sus of all". But yeah this is so dumb, you literally can't SEE mods unless you're running mods yourself, so logically the only person who should have gotten banned was "person X". Kinda makes you wonder if OP wasn't actually the one taking the screenshots and it backfired. 😂
The only way he would have known they were using mods is by him using the mod himself.
So why didn't Square banned him as well?
Tbh I'd have left that FC when I'd asked help for Satasha and got ignored. It takes like 10 minutes to run through? Maybe less than 5 if you're unsynced?
Anyways, only share your mare code with friends you know you can trust.
This story seems like a long winded way to say “gcbtw”. Either he’s the unluckiest man in the world or the story is heavily embellished. I’m leaning towards the latter
If mods are client side only how did person x screenshot the party and got them banned?
its likely dated info, Before Mare became popular.
Tale old as time. It’s a gay person initiation! We all fall for our 1st straight guy and they crushes our heart HARD. There is no stoping it, it happens. The real lesson comes from how you deal with it once you’re out the darkness.
This story is layers of drama with some missing info it seems. If I lost my house I'd probably quit playing also, I don't blame OP. Great reading Pathra 💖
yea getting a perma ban for visual mods and the whole FC/CWLS ghosting him and NOTHING that this OP did caused this? Hence why I said this story has more holes than swiss cheese.
That's right. Thanks to the FFXIV community we can conclude that no one has ever had a friend. 😂
I have 2992 commendations and can count on my fingers the number of bad experiences with other players. I also really enjoy helping sprouts through content. I literally ran prea and Ultima weapon fight the other day because I saw a sprout ask about it in novice network.
I agree, a lot of people will have one or two bad experiences and go "The entire FF14 community is bad and toxic, I'm going back to playing WoW" but I feel that's just part of life, for the most part the good experiences I've had in 14 have outweighed the bad
I stopped doing a majority of sidequests at a certain point in Stormblood, i figured i could always doing them on a different job for the extra exp. They are still unfinished to this day. xD
such a mood 😂
Idk... story is fishy, and I do have to say, as a gay person myself, the most toxic players in the game that I have met, are "queens" or should I say more flamboyant gay guys. Can we just have normal conversations without having to mention dicks and sex? I get the obsession, but please, for the love of Hydaelyn, STOP! And whenever I voice an opinion like this to these bunch of people, they'll say I have internalized homophobia or slap a label on me as a racist or whatever... like... ????
So nowadays, whenever I see "LGBTQ+ - XYZ whatever the eff friendly", I stay away. I don't want to be associated with a group of people who cannot handle opinions.
I agree, there's nothing worse than close mindedness!
Pretty sus story. And very emotional person to keep saying supposedly good community. It's has its good and bad like all communities. I don't know if they were expecting to be treated like a King hy every person. Debating on building a house like that, blaming the entire community, the end rant. Very.. emotional person.
'Mods channel' Wowzers sounds like my reaction to seeing the naughty stuff for the very first time. XD
Being a console player, I thought 'Mods' in the title were referring to moderators xD
I don't know how they work but if what everyone is saying is true (which makes sense) I hope you bringing this story to light will make those involved share their side.
I've been playing since 2013 but I've never heard Mare synchronos until today. That's crazy how modders are so creative. This reminds me of an old movie called "They Live" where a guy finds a magical sunglasses that lets them see the alternate form.
Perma ban for that doesn't make sense. Had to have been nsfw mods. Only way.
This story has some plot holes... Imma need OP to come back and fill them in because I'm nosy with stories like this.
I use technically two mods... a UI mod that changes the font of the markers you put down on the ground slightly (I'm dyslexic and the original font I can't process which letters are what and can't see if its a square or circle always) and the other just puts a wedge of where I'm looking on my map.
I just use them cause I have poor eyesight and wish they were in the game unmodded. :(
Yeah this story is completely fake! As always though, loved hearing a story read to me while playing ffxiv XD
Well, well well if it isn't the consequences of my own actions
...I know ff14 is a social game, but man ppl take it way too seriously.
And there is a hell of a lot info missing from this story.
If a bunch of ppl got banned enmasse the lodestone forum wouldn't shut up about it.
omg I remember hearing this in stream and feeling so bad for OP! love hearing your reactions to these crazy stories 😄
I feel so bad for OP, im not sure what its like on other servers but in EU mods are really common and aslong as you dont publicly discuss them, you are fine, so that fact 1 snake reported EVERYONE at the party is so sad
I wonder if this guy returned to dungeons around the time the wow exodus started.. as before that i rarely ever encounter bad partys yet after it became normal to atleast encounter 1 a week if not more.
This story is either exaggerated or fake. You don’t get banned for using mods that way and you certainly don’t get perma banned.
People using mare are very open in the game chat about it to the point of literally linking mods in the in game chat. So provided OP was careless in chat....
Out of my 1800 hours, I can't really remember a bad experience I've had in a duty with other players. There was even a time when during an alliance raid, 1 person in my party had their gear all break because we wiped a few times (some due to us, some due to other parties); but no one really blamed him or told him to leave because we were all synced down & it was the final boss.
The big drama in this game is that he fucking played ARR 3 fucking times lmao.
Posting a link of mare to outsiders is such a fucking BAD idea. You do NOT wanna do that with people you don't trust obviously. People are out there just fuck with you.
It's also interesting that the one who got everyone banned couldn't even see the mods without Mare, a third party software. The GMs are pretty stupid that they couldn't put two and two together.
The mare registration itself said that to be careful to who you pair / sync with. So the way to make it safe is just purely to be careful who you join with.
The OP fault other than using mods itself is was joining a really big Sync-Shell
Usually you pair only 1 by 1 like trading pair code but syncshell made it so the entire group instantly synced.
Which is bad if you joined a public one or huge one and you dont know who they are.
My advice if you want to use mare, make sure you trust everyone u paired with.
Wow OP is super unlucky :D
Perm ban? smell super fishy. Even the recent drama with "world first" didn't make them perm ban.
Also how third party can take screen of someone modded character if mods are stricle client side and you can't even say if someone use mods unless he post screen of his character itself.
I think the true morale of the story is... If you use visual mods don't tell others about it. Its really that simple. The story doesn't make any sense only the user of the said mod can see it in their game. He got reported b/c he shared screenshots of using them in discord
great story, but as some one that has been in that side of the community... (don't ask) as your chat mention in the end, if that x person would of report, that x person would of got banned as well. see mods of others you need mods your self. And I'm sure Square knows that. Maybe the OP exaggerated the story to make it more impactful. But I know people that has been banned for mods and none of them get perma banned.
And if you have mods on yourself. Even people who don't use mods would looks like modded characters for you. Smell like bs
Sounds like the mods wernt the issue, the issue was sharing them open wide with others you dont know but assume also use them
I don't understand how anyone could have such a bad luck. I have played MMORPG for a long time. One thing i learned quickly was to never talk about real life stuff. Needless to say, it got me into trouble way too much.
they cant because its a fake story. unless your streaming and showing that you have mods or constantly screaming that your using mods in chat texture mods are literally cant be proven. the accuser has to have a mod to be able to see your mods and at that point its are you modded or do they have a mod that makes you look that way.
MARE gives a huge warning with red letters when it comes to share codes... Why would anyone share it with so many people?! It should only be shared with a very closed inner circle or your ERP partner.
About insta ban for Lalafells mods mentioned at the end, that's also not real. Has anyone seen Twitter? There are modded lalas with their name and homeworld public, still playing. I personally don't care these exist, I don't think of them as children, but there are many of these lala enjoyers who have modified their characters to make them look like actual toddlers, diapers included. Not even those get banned and I fail to understand why.
I've heard about a catgirl courtesan from Sargatanas whose character modded appearance looks very similar to Khloe Aliapoh (the WT journal girl from Ydillshire). Even though I haven't seen this particular one, I have spotted accounts with pictures of Kan-E-Senna's twin siblings, Yozan and Ryne. It's inevitable to find these accounts after following a couple NSFW gposers. I can pass some Lalafell mods because they don't look human, but Yozan, Ryne and the Senna twins are a different story. Fine, it's not real, but just like serial killers can start killing bugs, then birds, then cats and ultimately people, those who mod characters into 12 year olds can escalate too.
i think the problem OP has, is that he cannot stay out of the drama,.. sometimes if you want to start fresh you need disassociate from a previous group, also change your name/persona.
Ff14 has so many people who lack social skills lmao it's great.
Hey! I've played ARR a few times because I just like creating different WoL characters and having different headcanons for them (and it takes so little time to breeze through ARR I don't bother with story skips)! Not everyone who creates new characters are sus!
With that said, I have a feeling that OP isn't being truthful at all, especially in light of Pathra's pinned message. I'm sure OP did something much worse and is just using mods as an excuse as to why they got banned.
I know very well how a in-game relationship could go from something magical to a nightmare, and goes all way to IRL also. The game itself put you throught an emotional roller coaster and is so inmersive so that kind of things, just happend.
Also, as an LGBT community member, I could understand how much the struggles facing by being different or not be able just to fit may baised some behaivors
I went throught some shitty situations IRL because of something in game, but also, FFXIV save me in my worst momments during COVID
I dont try to justify OP, just only give some matter of perspective and understanding
They could of been talking in chat about them and that’s what the screenshots were
Huh? How can you get reported for using mods? I am confused. I thought it was safe unless you post mods+in game name on social media/discord servers that go reported?
I feel for this OP..........I don't think he did anymore wrong than any other players but the reporting is confusing to me.......
See the pinned comment from Pathra. The OP had 8-9 strikes before the banhammer fell.
@@TheamayaonnaotakuBlogspot I don't see the pinned comment but that makes more sense.
Edit: I found it! Thank you for bringing it up!
I mean, yeah, they did that to themselves with the mods, but assuming the story is true, they had a bulk of negative experiences much earlier than their Mod Era. I think it's unfair to accuse OP of blaming the community for something they did themselves, when they've been around toxicity long before that.
Again, assuming the story is even true...
This was mental😮
this sounds... interesting lol. the only way X could report these modders was if he also had mare? im pretty sure SE would notice that as well, or at least i hope so. also screenshot evidence is not really helpful, because you can apply your mods or characters onto other people. plus photoshop exists! reporting for using mods is useless because the person reporting HAS to have mods to know. im not exactly sure OP is being truthful here
OP definitely left out some deets, no doubt about that
nobody can see what mods you have unless you share your mare code 🤷🏾♀️ he probably had NSFW mods installed and got perma banned
man i wish there was wayyyyyyyy more context on this one
OMG Faerie is my server I didn't know it was the guy mecha lol 😂
Honestly the FCs that advertise as "friendly and ready to help", in my experience at least, are anything but and are super cliquey. There have been a couple I've been in as a sprout that claimed as such and were unhelpful and rude if asked for help with dungeons.
I call bs...this whole story is sus
Looooove this series!!!
I am glad you do! Welcome!
so what you're telling me is if i have mods on i can go around snipping screenshots of people and getting them banned for using third party tools? yeah this whole story just seems like a bunch of bullcrap strung together to gather petty amounts of clout
If you think I wrote this story I did not. People submit a lot of stories to me. Im old and I do not want or need clout I just enjoy making content for the game I enjoy playing!
This op sounded jaded. I wish I knew why they left out a lot of details but even so I always enjoy sus stories so everyone else can catch the lies! There are many other stories and different types of OPs I find it always so much fun to read 😊
@@pathra no i 100% understand that the story wasn't made by you it just sounds very weird given the update of having prior warnings on their account that just wasn't mentioned in their first story it just seems really weird to me by no means was i attempting to call you out personally and i apologize if that's how it came off
@@akudoikoray5119 no you’re fine! I edited my pinned comment you should give it a read 😯
Mods got me banned story sounds either fake or exaggerated. It doesn't make sense.
Moral of the story.. don't be an idiot.
Only 3? I've taken 13 characters through ARR
Sorry I've only discovered you recently so this might sound harsh, but I'd strongly encourage vetting stories more thoroughly before sharing them, especially before making a video of them. Getting people banned simply for sharing modded screenshots isn't possible, it would only get the person filing the report banned, as they would have to have mods on for everyone (even non modded characters) or no one.
Even though they could theoretically have just Mare connections enabled and mods on their Penumbra disabled so only THEIR character is vanilla and everyone they are synced with in the vicinity is modded, nobody on staff is dumb enough to think that they would be able to submit screenshots like that on a vanilla game installation. We're talking about staff that is notoriously known in the community for still not doing anything with proof and several reports of players that give death threats and doxxing *in game*, stalking, harassment, and so on but ban Ultimate raiders mid prog for having a modded countdown timer or debuff timers on stream. They won't lift a finger without a mountain load of proof because it's simply too risky for them.
In short, either the OP completely BSed you and their ban was a result of going tit for tat and stirring up constant drama and wanted to use your platform as a "I told you so!" to his friends, or was BSing you to stir up a false narrative to make the anti-mod stans seem more "in the right." Either option there only makes them seem more insane.
Thank you for your input! I didn’t know much about this area with mods so I definitely thought it was juicy like I said in my reaction part of this video. I still think it’s a story a lot can learn about since my chat knew what was up either way and same with the yt comments. Also that’s the fun and beauty with me reading drama stories that are submitted, to go detective mode and study/analyze them.
@@pathra true we were on the case as soon as the story starts. Funny part is my alt in the background of this video is a detective in her story
Yea this story is definitely a bit off. No one gets banned off a screenshot at least not one like described in the story and OP also seems pretty dumb, they pretty much let this one person ruin the entire game for them and for some odd reason thought it necessary to delete thier old characters and make multiple new characters and do arr three times. Theres litererally no reason that OP should have done that unless they were just trying to burn themselves out and this is coming from a person who has done ARR twice except instead of deleting my character like a fool I used New Game + and my reason for doing it was fully understand the story because like op on my first run I skipped the cutscenes and rushed through and just watching the cutscene journal in the inn room does not give you enough context to understand the story.
I dont think OP is the only one at fault here cause it does seem like they met an asshole but that one person should not have caused him this much of am inconvenience and there seems to be a lot more to this story that they are not telling so no the moral of this story is not to "Dont use mods unless you want to lose everything" its more like "dont get 8 - 9 strikes on your account being an idiot and then tell a story about how your completely innocent and its just the games fault that you made dumb choices." I have been using mods and plugins on FF for years and used mare and linked with countless people and I dont have a single strike on my account. Just dont be dumb simple.
Somehow I dont believe this story lol the GMs in this game are not this dumb
As some who uses mods I been using them for a whole year. Just wanna clarify. Op is bullshitting. Honestly speaking. The rule dont show don't tell is a point that is hammered home. Op is lying cause if the guy who took pictures reported them he get ban as well cause he can see mods aka 3rd party tool was used. Also op is lying further cause mods are client side. Either op made it up or is trying to talk omitt facts that lead up to this
I'm late, but this just sounds like fear mongering bait to me. A large chunk of the player base uses mods and mare and SE knows this. As since discovered the OP had more issues than just some body hair. All around just do your thing, be kind to others, and don't be blatantly obvious about it such as talking about it in say/yell/shout chat and others you hardly know.
Tbh i only ran into about 4 assholes in this game across the 4 years I've been playing so I'd say that's a good ratio to me 🤣
Good for you if ban with mods
Is nobody gonna talk about how slow his progression is but mod stuff progresses fast? played for several hours, on the new account they made with cousin (sure it was mainly hud stuff, whatever), played for who knows how long and gets invited to a FC, (still not at the first dungeon?) but enough time has gone by that the FC folks trust em enough to be like "Yo, bro, here's stuff that could be used to report us. I know you've been here for at least a week, have shown no evidence of using nor knowing about these but here download this". All before the first dungeon at level 15? Did bro really just do everything but MSQ everytime they got on in the start? Makes no sense.
How can you get someone else banned for using mods? You need the mods installed to see them no? Also getting offered mods in XIV now seems like grooming. They just want to get you into erp
If you get me banned, I'll report you for using mods to see my mods.
im like halfway in and the story already bored me.
This one is full of bs. The cousin give a game he owned. Open the computer and look, the icon of FFXIV is there? And no one notice? The GM part, yeah no. So much doesnt fit.
Watching this as a sprout (First MMO actually) and seeing that I picked the "gay server"
I am extremely gay, and my chars name is even a pun off of my pronouns, They/Them
I'm so glad I picked right
person getting banned for breaking tos? wow no way
This is just a world of Warcraft player lying about the ffxiv community I know I’ve only played for 4 months but I’ve never had a bad experience
Gay people always leave details out. Im sure theres somethin.
wat warrior of light, dude barely played the game, change multiple accts, getting involved with sussy cwls and MODS. Deserved everything that happened
Nope? Karma? /facepalm
Story is full of bs sadly
Sexiest ffxiv player I ever seen. ❤️ can she game though... But can she game?
Are you referring to me? 👀 if so thank you and yes I’m a gamer 😂
@Pathra Yes! wow best day ever ❤️
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