As a an engineer, I like the numbers approach to handguns. But the numbers do NOT take into account reliability and fit in your hand. The best thing to do is to look at the sheet and find 3-5 with a good enough score for you in the categories YOU care about then try them before you buy them. And for those upset about the 43X, it does qualify theoretically as the best double stack (and single stack) handgun, but he literally told you that you can ignore it. Its his list anyway. The Delta really is a great handling and efficient gun. As for me since getting a glock almost feels like selling out I'm definitely getting a Rex Delta before I even go to my first bar. Just a few more months..... EDIT: forgot an h in theoretically
@@tfbtv Reference my comment about a lack of real world experience quantified into numbers... something we engineers receive flak for all too often. Then again this was something I wanted to do with a yt channel, more numbers and science, even history than just reviews. Full spreadsheets of suppressor volume, brush gun tests by caliber etc. But still approved EDIT:again I had to fix spelling, attention to detail
@@nathanjones2584 Kel-Tec for the massive win on that measure. Just as long as 'rusts if you look it wrong' isn't a variable. Actually have more CCW hours with a PF9, but carbon steel and sweat is a bad mix. Comfortable to carry, miserable to shoot and keep clean.
Hi-point is obviously the best one. You can get double stack capacities if you tape an additional mag to the bottom of your first one. Fully loaded you get 20+1, and it weighs enough that if you just chuck it when you are done you may do more damage. If that ain't efficient, then I don't know what is.
James, it was so nice of you to include the footage of your son shooting at the range in the segment on the Kel-Tec PF9! Father & son range days are great! I am sure he appreciates any help you can give him.
well once you use the shield arms magazine there is really not much left to argue apart from the hilarious fact that it once more took another company to fix a glock.
@@DaveL9170 if something is that shitty that a majority of the customers change it before even shooting it for the first them it can be called broken, dont you think?
*Morgan Freeman narrator voice*: He was totally a Glock shill. But we already knew what the number one was going to be before anyone clicked the video.
OK James, you're messing up all my biases. Lawyers are lawyers bc they can't do math; and FSU grads are academic consolation prize winners. Then you go making all kinds of sense and using numbers and stuff. This Gator MBA is confused. Anyways, well done on doing the Sunshine State proud.
@safe space You gotta respect somebody's integrity when a company gets you for almost $3K and you still say they win on the numbers and you EDC their stuff. Personally, I think Glocks are engineering marvels, but I can't hit sh*t with them and carried them for over 20 years. Those guns were 'given' to me and I pay to carry a Sig now. So, IKR.
@Judge Dredd We all make mistakes. LOL You can recover if you're young enough and seek therapy. Actually, you can probably find a nice niche, most stereotypes are based in objective observations. You shouldn't have much competition when the calculators come out. :)
@@davidgearardo1788 I resemble that remark. Doubtful I could get in these days without a photograph proving 'walks on water'. It's that competitive now. But I am kind of a hick, so that part of those rumors is kind of true. And I might know some hicks... :)
I've had the Diamondback DB9 for 9 months and really like it. It is my EDC and can carry it in all situations and all day due to its size. No malfunctions after about 700 rounds. Quite a bit of recoil.
I own the DB9 gen 4. I can tell you it's not a fun gun to shoot. The only positive I can say is after shooting it, my G43 is no longer consider snappy but a really fun soft shooter. Let's talk about the customer service. I was in repair for at least 4-5 times and finally after a year they switch out the bottom with a different serial number that fix the problem of the mags disengaging while shooting. A whole year!
I carry the SIG P365XL and my wife carries the SIG P365. She did carry the Beretta BU9 Nano but she just couldn't master shooting it. With the SIG P365, she is able to shoot it accurately, consistently hitting the target in less than 5" groups from the draw.
Most civilian self-defense cases involving a firearm end with just 2-3 shots. But go ahead and carry around a big heavy double stack every day for the extremely unlikely chance you'll be involved in one of these situations.
Integrity is important for this channel. That's why I tell you 1) I have a personal bias favoring Glocks and 2) that Glock doesn't pay me to have this personal bias. You can interpret my opinions accordingly, although I think I still take a pretty measured approach for the most part.
Dwight Hansen check out his review of the SIG 365 XL. Glock, for better or worse, sets the standard. No other handgun has the capacity in a slim model. Especially not for the price to reliability ratio. It’s just the facts of the gun industry. Everybody makes and carries accessories for Glock. James helped me settle on the SIG as my primary CCW over the 43x. Not trying to wag my finger at you, but I don’t want my bad joke to invite unwarranted negativity on an otherwise good channel.
I’ve been watch tfbtv for a good number of years now along with MANY other gun channel the way you approach this subject and the depth you go into is very impressive this was a wonderfully done video
I have a friend who has a Diamondback and it only likes ONE TYPE OF AMMO, one brand, one type. You give it anything else and it doesn't empty a magazine without a jam.
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Using a double stack magazine in a single stack gun isn't cheating, it's just a bad design that makes me question what the manufacturer was even thinking...
Right there with you, their military/le cost efficiency makes no sense in these civilian focused firearms. Still, wish shield arms and the Glocks were around when I was in the market for a single stack 9, or the hellcat/365 for that matter.
Official line straight from Josef Kroyer, Glock's chief engineer in Austria, is that they made the conscious decision to sacrifice capacity for durability by putting a polymer shell around the hardened steel G43X mag. I disagree with this decision but it is what it is.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 you know something is wrong when another company perfects another companies product. joke aside, i never liked the polymer mags of glocks, i prefer metal mags like the PPQ has. and if the metal is that hard, putting polymer around it is just idiotic.
To bad it's not made anymore. I still remember the advertisements for it back in the day. Back then every automatic pistol was compared to the 1911, and the P7 was touted as a much simpler and more reliable pistol. Today everything is compared to the Glock instead and the the difference between a gun like the P7 and a Glock isn't as pronounced. Manufacturing costs on the other hand is way higher for something like the P7 than for a modern design with a polymer lower. The current boutique guns are things like the Boberg or even the 1911 and they can be anything from retro to radical designs. Today a design like the P7 would rank as exotic...
You really need to review the Diamondback DB9 Gen 4. I'm sure there were problems with earlier gens, but they took advantage of being a small company and cranked out improvements rapidly. I've got one, and think it's sweet, though I will admit you know you've been shooting after cranking 100 rounds through it. Other 'cheap' compact guns I own and readily endorse... SCCY, and Taurus G2C. And I love my S&W Shield 9, but have to admit my most common carry is an LCP in .380 in my pocket. I don't care what the price is, if it can't run for at least 300 rounds without gagging, I'd sell it off.
Bersa BP9cc is cool too. A bit bigger in the grip and slide. (than the above) Has a PIC rail. The trigger is really good. Crazy short reset. So good in fact, it makes it a bit dangerous to carry. No trigger mount or grip safety. I would like to see Bersa update this pistol. maybe even give us a Full size and a carry piece.
Actually Bersa has already presented a prototype of a full size BP9 but due to bureaucratic issues(and the Covid-19 pandemy that literally stopped everything here in Argentina) we'll have to wait for a while until they get into production
I'd vote for the one he doesn't take into context.... the Sig p365, it might not be a single stack but it's otherwise smaller then most of the single stacks he reviewed and it holds 10+
While I think the G48 and G43X are some of the best Glocks available, I personally don't consider them as "single-stack guns." They're double-stack guns that ship with a single-stack, bulky magazine. The Shield Arms S15 mag shows that the Glock polymer-coated magazines waste the potential of the G48 and G43X.
James I love how you make videos like this! Definitely helps to look for the most ideal carry pistols. I just bought a Mossberg MC1sc at the beginning of this year and so far I love it. definitely going to update to true glock mags due to the 7 in the mag of the 100% plastic mag it swells and drags and stops does not clear the mag well easily with a full loaded mag.even the 6 round mag same thing. So im going to soon be getting true glock mags but other than than I love the mossberg. I love glocks too because they are well built and so reliable. my brother in law has a G27 I've shot and love it. Just haven't been able to shell out the Money for a G27 or the G43x with the shield mags. One day hope to get a G43x with the shield mags b/c love the idea of a small gun like that with 15 rounds just awesome. Dont let the haters get you down. always are going to have haters and difficult people. lol trust me I am in tech support for ag tractors and we get our fair share too.
you got a little brown on your nose... seriously though, take a moment to shoot a lot of different guns before you purchase. main point to remember is efficiency is one metric. I dont buy just on one metric. First time I purchased a gun, all I knew was I didnt want a Glock. I walked out with a P226. Walked in thinking M&P or XD... wouldnt trade two of either one for my P226... If you like Glocks cool. Just be SURE you like Glocks... I have personally witnessed buyers remorse from more Glock owners than anyone else.
You know it's gonna be a good day when you wake up to a new TFB TV video on single stack 9mm. How did I know a Block was gonna win. Boo! and I even have the 43/43X/45 MOS. Where's the P365? is it not single stack in your opinion?
Just get what feels right to you. I was schooled by a very sagged professor regarding the most important decisions you make in life, while taking an engineering course. He asked who believes that the most important decisions you make in life are based on facts, figures, and logic. Every student raised their hand in class. He asked if anyone of us had married into the Rockerfella or the Vanderbilt family, or just for money. The prof then wanted to know, for those that have children, what was the ROI for having children. He then proceeded to tell us to all lower our hands. He went on to tell us that the majority of our decisions are largely emotional and that we use facts figures and logic to validate our decisions.
The best gun geek out on TH-cam. I do think the width should be based upon an average of four sample points (1/2" back from muzzle, take down, slide release, and above beaver tail curve).
I have owned and carried a Kel-Tec PF-9 for years - If I remember correctly, I believe I purchased said handgun in 2012 for $239.00 + tax brand new. It is my go-to carry pistol (and I have quite a few carry guns) due to its profile, concealability, and most importantly: reliability. I can however confirm that the trigger is somewhat atrocious and the sights leave much to be desired - but it will go bang when you pull the trigger.
I would add the 48 with the shield mags, too. My math puts that right behind the 43X, with shield mags, on your list losing out only because of its greater weight. But the longer barrel with correspondingly longer sight radius and slightly larger weight should make the gun less jerky in its recoil impulse. The list does a good job of using numerical analysis to look at what you might want to consider first. I think that you want to look at fit in the hand, as others mentioned, and at how you fire the gun if you can borrow one from a friend or rent one before buying. But this is a nice place to start.
If the Shield Arms mag doesn’t count as a significant aftermarket modification, then neither do the kits from Magguts which increase the capacities of many popular single stack nines.
I have a DB9 Gen.4, and I do like it. I have heard about some issues, but in 400 rounds, havent had any issues myself. It's very snappy for a 9mm, but I carry my Sig Sauer SP2022 IWB, and my DB9 in an ankle holster as a backup.
I actually have a Ruger LC9s Pro for my EDC. At my height with bigger paws it just fits my hand. It's comfortable to carry and the trigger is decent. Not a bad gun for the price honestly.👍
Here's a challenge for you, and this is quite a challenge, do a top 10 Massachusetts compliant pistols list. Glocks may be on the compliance list, but they are NOT compliant. That's how difficult it is
so james here you mention you edc the glock but on a previous video (hellcat vs p365) i believe you mentioned you edc'd the p365 for a few years - are you regularly switching out your daily w/ different guns or are you now 100% on the glock?
I regularly swap out. I know that's a **tactical** no-no, but I carry whatever the day calls for. I've got enough rounds through the P365 series and the G43/X/48 series that it's not an issue for me. Love them both. I'll do a video soon.
I've had a Kahr PM9 and K40. The PM9 worked fine, the K40 had a defective trigger bar, was in the shop for 4 weeks it still didn't work right. Got on the forums and saw how many people have this problem. The LC9s, G43, P365, XDS and Shield have been 100% reliable.
I just finished my trigger conversion on my LC9, last night. Dropped from a RIDICULOUS 5.8Lb to 3.7. It still has that 3mm of play at the beginning, but it so much lighter and crisp with no slop. Now has a great tactile and auditory reset. That factory trigger was the absolute worst though..
If you light off a round or two out of a short barrel 9mm without ear protection (defense situation) you won't hear the trigger re-set, I promise. If you're firing down a 3-1/2' wide hallway you won't hear much of anything for several hours.
I have a DB9 Gen 4 it's a fantastic little gun. I'm at roughly nine hundred rounds with no problems.I think diamondback went through their generations quickly because they were responding to customer feedback.
I own the DB9 gen 4. I can tell you it's not a fun gun to shoot. The only positive I can say is after shooting it, my G43 is no longer consider snappy but a really fun soft shooter. Let's talk about the customer service. I was in repair for at least 4-5 times and finally after a year they switch out the bottom with a different serial number that fix the problem of the mags disengaging while shooting. A whole year!
Love the channel and what you do! Been watching for years! Rocking SW shield OG not 2.0 for my EDC for a while now, I love it ! I realize its not on this list lol still love it! Been eyeing a 43x for A minute now , might pull the trigger soon haha ! Have a great day, whoever reads this! Stay well stay safe!
Using Magguts, I added another round to the capacity of my Kahr CW9. Rounds per square inch is 1.98 and rounds per ounce topped the list as well. Installation took a fraction of the time it takes to explain that I'm not a shill and I did nothing worse than putting an aftermarket mag in a Glock to win. Then I spent the rest of the time pointing out that if you bury a gun with a good trigger and slag it as a boutique weapon in a list of stank then you didn't prove anything with numbers. Fun video, thanks James. Tired of hearing about dick in your videos but it's better than listening to the whining about daddy issues so keep them coming!
Interesting opinion on the DB9. I wonder if that dealer friend has ever shot it or got returns on it. One of the first rifles I ever owned was a DB. Worked perfectly fine. I've never gotten the hate that people have for them.
Ok, I'm still ditching the 43x for the P365 because with OEM, FLUSH FIT mags the P365 is way smaller for the same capacity and you can reload with 15 rounds.
I know the DB9 gen 4 had some good reviews in regards to limp wrist tests and other type tests. Personally when it comes to what budget guns I do like Hops reviews cause he does throw a bunch of rounds through it and it seems he is always shooting in the rain which always helps show a items reliability.
Was surprised to see the pf9 on the list and in 2nd place dont feel so bad having it now but need that plus one mag extension my pinky is under the mag lol
I like my XD-E, I was looking for a gun with a hammer and safety/decocker. 9 and 8 round mags, decent concealablity, flawless function, accurate for a short 3.3 inch barrel, nice trigger, good sights, ambi safety and mag release
I've been carrying a Ruger LC9S pro for 3 years, upgraded sights to TFX and got the slide cerakoted black since the bluing was fairly worn being in SC/VA for most its life. Best $300 I ever spent on a gun.
Don’t care if Glock makes the top of the list. All I care in these videos is that it’s apples to apples. Throwing in aftermarket things into the equation is like an mma fighter taking steroids. By all means say hey this thing is available and it’s great but, keep it limited to it shipped from factory like this for the comparisons.
JAX I agree. James I think you would actually like it. I own one and no issues at all with 300 rounds thru it. I think they are extremely underrated. 🇺🇸
Been carrying the 43x for 1 year. Upgraded to the 15 round mags after watching your video a while back. I agree completely that this is a very nice daily carry.
The video only takes into account size and capacity of firearm, which are two very important points. But they definitely do not encompass everything. Missing ergonomics, reliability, overall quality of firearm (Trigger, sights ect...) It is not capacity that will save you in the real world, it is marksmanship. Which is why ergonomics and quality of firearm really do matter. If capacity was the only factor then nobody would need to go to the range for practice. "Who needs practice when I have such a huge mag??" Very dumb way to think about things...... For example, even though in this comparison the Glock 43x/48 rank higher than a Shield2.0, I personally prefer the shield. The texturing on the grip is 10x better than a glock, the trigger is quite a bit better, and we don't even need to talk about Glock sights. TFB also says the Shield2.0 can only carry 7 rounds? I don't know what shield you guys are using but my shield's got 9 rounds. 8 in the mag and 1 in the chamber, how do you even get 7?? Would I drop 1 round from the capacity to be able to shoot my firearm better? You bet I would.
Walther pps m2 is my favorite single stack 9mm. It has a good trigger and is easier to shoot accurately than the rest on the list for me. I dont care if its a few ounces heavier or not the tiniest there is. I want to be able to hit what I need to. I have had one for 2 years, shot it over a thousand rounds and never hav a malfunction.
I picked up a used pf9 for $200, beat the hell out of it & then started to have problems w gritty trigger. Took to Kel Tec and they replaced everything but the frame & serial # and had it tested & ready for pick up before lunch the same day. Say what u want about Kel Tec, my family trusts our lives w um. The p32 w extend mag holds like 11 or 12 rds in one of the smallest, lightest packages out there.
You probably won't see this but there is an error for the Ruger American Compact Double Stack. Factory is 12 (flush fit) and 17 (extended grip) round mags, not 10 like the sr9c was.
Thanks James, this is the exact spreadsheet science I like to see. Now Im interested in seeing this with 45acp. I love my XDM 3.8" 45acp, and have been thinking about the XDS 3.3" 45acp due to the single stack concealability
Great video James. I would take the Kahr P9 (black slide version) from your list. Kahrs feel so good in the hand, and are super accurate in the premium line. I know there is marketing blitz in recent years for small double stack pistols. I guess it helps to sell more guns, but is overblown. Most gunfights involve only four or five rounds fired total. The average concealed carrier, is unlikely to find themselves in a "John Wick" gunfight. Your well served with most single stack pistols.
Wow, top of the list for both single and double stack. I can see how people would think you're a shill. That being said, I'm really glad I ordered a 43X and Shield Arms magazines. I fired one at the range and it was beautiful. It felt like it was made for my hand, making it one of the most comfortable and easy to shoot hand guns I've experienced. Recoil was surprisingly tame making follow up shots that much easier. I've never owned a Glock before and there was a stark contrast between the 43X and the 23 I fired a few years ago. I don't need affirmations from anyone else to make purchasing decisions. I got it because it fit all of my needs and the Shield Arms magazines sealed the deal.
Great video. Love the unbiased data type info. Looking forward to the .380 review as I am now looking for a lighter pistol for EDC while working out/jogging/summertime clothes.
As a an engineer, I like the numbers approach to handguns. But the numbers do NOT take into account reliability and fit in your hand. The best thing to do is to look at the sheet and find 3-5 with a good enough score for you in the categories YOU care about then try them before you buy them.
And for those upset about the 43X, it does qualify theoretically as the best double stack (and single stack) handgun, but he literally told you that you can ignore it. Its his list anyway. The Delta really is a great handling and efficient gun.
As for me since getting a glock almost feels like selling out I'm definitely getting a Rex Delta before I even go to my first bar.
Just a few more months.....
EDIT: forgot an h in theoretically
Boom, see that guys, engineer approved. Stonks.
@@tfbtv Reference my comment about a lack of real world experience quantified into numbers... something we engineers receive flak for all too often.
Then again this was something I wanted to do with a yt channel, more numbers and science, even history than just reviews. Full spreadsheets of suppressor volume, brush gun tests by caliber etc.
But still approved
EDIT:again I had to fix spelling, attention to detail
*THIS GUN FITS MY HAND BETTER THEN THIS ONE DOES*
The next column needs to be dollars per efficiency point.
@@nathanjones2584 Kel-Tec for the massive win on that measure. Just as long as 'rusts if you look it wrong' isn't a variable. Actually have more CCW hours with a PF9, but carbon steel and sweat is a bad mix. Comfortable to carry, miserable to shoot and keep clean.
James - "I'm not a Glock shill. See, I've thrown money at them and get nothing back. I'm a Glock Simp."
This needs to catch on
I do it for you guys. I'm a simp for you.
James got Squirrels in his Pants! 🐿️🕺
Damn it, someone beat me to it
I believe he said he's a Glock cuck...
Hi-point is obviously the best one. You can get double stack capacities if you tape an additional mag to the bottom of your first one. Fully loaded you get 20+1, and it weighs enough that if you just chuck it when you are done you may do more damage. If that ain't efficient, then I don't know what is.
damn near invincible, accurate, the best customer service in the lands, cheap, adjustable sights, it's just that good.
It's my problem solver. When they see me coming.....
It's considered an anti-tank weapon where I live. Not loaded, but if you throw it at most modern battle tanks........
James, it was so nice of you to include the footage of your son shooting at the range in the segment on the Kel-Tec PF9! Father & son range days are great! I am sure he appreciates any help you can give him.
Lol
The P11 KelTec has double action / double strike capability found lacking in others on the list
James rates Most efficient single stack Glock handguns.
Glock period.
well once you use the shield arms magazine there is really not much left to argue apart from the hilarious fact that it once more took another company to fix a glock.
Genesis23OPB it is “fixing the Glock”. After market sights or grips or MAGs are just personalization items. Nothings broke.
@@DaveL9170 if something is that shitty that a majority of the customers change it before even shooting it for the first them it can be called broken, dont you think?
@@Genesis23OPB no, because it still functions and works perfectly fine if you don't.
*Morgan Freeman narrator voice*:
He was totally a Glock shill. But we already knew what the number one was going to be before anyone clicked the video.
Underrated comment, should be pinned my friend
A cheap single stack 9 that Hop hasn't reviewed?!?
Get the kid a Diamondback!
Absolutely, I have to hear what she says about it.
James likes Glocks because they keep giving him the shaft...😂😂😂
And it hurts so good.
I think you mean more than 2 fingers!
Now that's funny!
I would not be suprised to see a "Top 6 Best 1911's" video, and the #1 still be a Glock
*Sad 1911 fanboy noises*
Citizen G the ones who know, just know
Inb4 Glock makes a 1911
only because it is
@@JeuJBear Glock doesn't make a 1911, there was rumors and spam running around for years.
OK James, you're messing up all my biases. Lawyers are lawyers bc they can't do math; and FSU grads are academic consolation prize winners. Then you go making all kinds of sense and using numbers and stuff. This Gator MBA is confused. Anyways, well done on doing the Sunshine State proud.
@safe space You gotta respect somebody's integrity when a company gets you for almost $3K and you still say they win on the numbers and you EDC their stuff. Personally, I think Glocks are engineering marvels, but I can't hit sh*t with them and carried them for over 20 years. Those guns were 'given' to me and I pay to carry a Sig now. So, IKR.
Gator grad? They Will get off your porch after you pay for the pizza. JK, kind of
@@davidgearardo1788 It's obvious you have know idea what your talking about with that joke.
@Judge Dredd We all make mistakes. LOL You can recover if you're young enough and seek therapy. Actually, you can probably find a nice niche, most stereotypes are based in objective observations. You shouldn't have much competition when the calculators come out. :)
@@davidgearardo1788 I resemble that remark. Doubtful I could get in these days without a photograph proving 'walks on water'. It's that competitive now. But I am kind of a hick, so that part of those rumors is kind of true. And I might know some hicks... :)
I've had the Diamondback DB9 for 9 months and really like it. It is my EDC and can carry it in all situations and all day due to its size. No malfunctions after about 700 rounds. Quite a bit of recoil.
Coach 1092 my DB9 Gen 4 has ran perfect so far too, great pocket carry and extremely underrated carry gun
I own the DB9 gen 4. I can tell you it's not a fun gun to shoot. The only positive I can say is after shooting it, my G43 is no longer consider snappy but a really fun soft shooter. Let's talk about the customer service. I was in repair for at least 4-5 times and finally after a year they switch out the bottom with a different serial number that fix the problem of the mags disengaging while shooting. A whole year!
Ok , im gonna call it. The best single stack is a double stack
I carry the SIG P365XL and my wife carries the SIG P365. She did carry the Beretta BU9 Nano but she just couldn't master shooting it. With the SIG P365, she is able to shoot it accurately, consistently hitting the target in less than 5" groups from the draw.
@Judge Dredd Very good point! The SIG P938 is a good choice. It just doesn't fit me and I don't shoot it well at all.
No fucking way.
Its the 43x. He better have this as his conceal carry until the new highpoint comes out.
Most civilian self-defense cases involving a firearm end with just 2-3 shots. But go ahead and carry around a big heavy double stack every day for the extremely unlikely chance you'll be involved in one of these situations.
James: "I'm not a shill, this isn't biased, I'm using the same metrics...."
Everyone not James: Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Integrity is important for this channel. That's why I tell you 1) I have a personal bias favoring Glocks and 2) that Glock doesn't pay me to have this personal bias. You can interpret my opinions accordingly, although I think I still take a pretty measured approach for the most part.
@@tfbtv Your personal bias shows in every video you do.
Are Glocks good? Yes
Are they best & everything else is junk like fanboys think? Nope
TFB TV just giving you a well intentioned ribbing. If I didn’t enjoy the content I wouldn’t watch, and I certainly wouldn’t comment.
Dwight Hansen check out his review of the SIG 365 XL. Glock, for better or worse, sets the standard. No other handgun has the capacity in a slim model. Especially not for the price to reliability ratio. It’s just the facts of the gun industry. Everybody makes and carries accessories for Glock. James helped me settle on the SIG as my primary CCW over the 43x. Not trying to wag my finger at you, but I don’t want my bad joke to invite unwarranted negativity on an otherwise good channel.
Guy: makes joke
Other Guy: whiffs and piles on thinking it's for real.
I’ve been watch tfbtv for a good number of years now along with MANY other gun channel the way you approach this subject and the depth you go into is very impressive this was a wonderfully done video
some of the best gun content on this platform...
That text about the Diamondback has Tim from MAC written all over it.
I have a friend who has a Diamondback and it only likes ONE TYPE OF AMMO, one brand, one type.
You give it anything else and it doesn't empty a magazine without a jam.
@@Seth9809 I have one and can confirm, but I haven't found the ammo that it likes yet. Can't make it through a mag with whatever I try
I could tell by the language that was used... sounds just like him on one of his videos!
As someone who booty-stashes my EDC, 5.1 inches or smaller is a must
Harvey_Weenstain are we still talking about firearms here??
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5.1” is still an overestimation for some of us 😪
I carry a 6 in revolver in mine.
More comfortable than appendix carry. Especially when sitting
Using a double stack magazine in a single stack gun isn't cheating, it's just a bad design that makes me question what the manufacturer was even thinking...
Right there with you, their military/le cost efficiency makes no sense in these civilian focused firearms. Still, wish shield arms and the Glocks were around when I was in the market for a single stack 9, or the hellcat/365 for that matter.
Official line straight from Josef Kroyer, Glock's chief engineer in Austria, is that they made the conscious decision to sacrifice capacity for durability by putting a polymer shell around the hardened steel G43X mag. I disagree with this decision but it is what it is.
Put a phat beat to that and you got yourself a rap song
I like how we’ve come full circle thinking PMags are superior, to thinking metal mags are best again.
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 you know something is wrong when another company perfects another companies product. joke aside, i never liked the polymer mags of glocks, i prefer metal mags like the PPQ has. and if the metal is that hard, putting polymer around it is just idiotic.
Love my H&K P7 M8! Great 9mm single stack.
To bad it's not made anymore. I still remember the advertisements for it back in the day. Back then every automatic pistol was compared to the 1911, and the P7 was touted as a much simpler and more reliable pistol. Today everything is compared to the Glock instead and the the difference between a gun like the P7 and a Glock isn't as pronounced. Manufacturing costs on the other hand is way higher for something like the P7 than for a modern design with a polymer lower. The current boutique guns are things like the Boberg or even the 1911 and they can be anything from retro to radical designs. Today a design like the P7 would rank as exotic...
You really need to review the Diamondback DB9 Gen 4. I'm sure there were problems with earlier gens, but they took advantage of being a small company and cranked out improvements rapidly. I've got one, and think it's sweet, though I will admit you know you've been shooting after cranking 100 rounds through it. Other 'cheap' compact guns I own and readily endorse... SCCY, and Taurus G2C. And I love my S&W Shield 9, but have to admit my most common carry is an LCP in .380 in my pocket. I don't care what the price is, if it can't run for at least 300 rounds without gagging, I'd sell it off.
Bersa BP9cc is cool too.
A bit bigger in the grip and slide. (than the above)
Has a PIC rail.
The trigger is really good. Crazy short reset.
So good in fact, it makes it a bit dangerous to carry.
No trigger mount or grip safety.
I would like to see Bersa update this pistol. maybe even give us a Full size and a carry piece.
Actually Bersa has already presented a prototype of a full size BP9 but due to bureaucratic issues(and the Covid-19 pandemy that literally stopped everything here in Argentina) we'll have to wait for a while until they get into production
I'd vote for the one he doesn't take into context.... the Sig p365, it might not be a single stack but it's otherwise smaller then most of the single stacks he reviewed and it holds 10+
While I think the G48 and G43X are some of the best Glocks available, I personally don't consider them as "single-stack guns." They're double-stack guns that ship with a single-stack, bulky magazine. The Shield Arms S15 mag shows that the Glock polymer-coated magazines waste the potential of the G48 and G43X.
Your videos are always entertaining so thanks for putting in the time. I was surprised that the Sig p938 and Walther PPS weren’t mentioned.
Top 5 Most Practical AK Pistols for Concealed Carry next ?
lol.
WTF?!?!
Draco, lynx, psa akp. Pretty much what you can get. Arsenal too
Glock would still find it’s way to the top
Tunasub See in my eyes that’s fair because Gen 5 Glocks and AKs are my favorite readily available firearms, but it sure would upset a lot of people 😂
S&W 3913 8+1 9 MM DA/SA carrying it the last 10 years.. I keep going back to it
James I love how you make videos like this! Definitely helps to look for the most ideal carry pistols. I just bought a Mossberg MC1sc at the beginning of this year and so far I love it. definitely going to update to true glock mags due to the 7 in the mag of the 100% plastic mag it swells and drags and stops does not clear the mag well easily with a full loaded mag.even the 6 round mag same thing. So im going to soon be getting true glock mags but other than than I love the mossberg. I love glocks too because they are well built and so reliable. my brother in law has a G27 I've shot and love it. Just haven't been able to shell out the Money for a G27 or the G43x with the shield mags. One day hope to get a G43x with the shield mags b/c love the idea of a small gun like that with 15 rounds just awesome. Dont let the haters get you down. always are going to have haters and difficult people. lol trust me I am in tech support for ag tractors and we get our fair share too.
you got a little brown on your nose...
seriously though, take a moment to shoot a lot of different guns before you purchase. main point to remember is efficiency is one metric. I dont buy just on one metric. First time I purchased a gun, all I knew was I didnt want a Glock. I walked out with a P226. Walked in thinking M&P or XD... wouldnt trade two of either one for my P226...
If you like Glocks cool. Just be SURE you like Glocks... I have personally witnessed buyers remorse from more Glock owners than anyone else.
You know it's gonna be a good day when you wake up to a new TFB TV video on single stack 9mm. How did I know a Block was gonna win. Boo! and I even have the 43/43X/45 MOS. Where's the P365? is it not single stack in your opinion?
Or the springfield hellcat for that matter? Are they considered 1-1/2 stack?
Just get what feels right to you. I was schooled by a very sagged professor regarding the most important decisions you make in life, while taking an engineering course. He asked who believes that the most important decisions you make in life are based on facts, figures, and logic. Every student raised their hand in class. He asked if anyone of us had married into the Rockerfella or the Vanderbilt family, or just for money. The prof then wanted to know, for those that have children, what was the ROI for having children. He then proceeded to tell us to all lower our hands. He went on to tell us that the majority of our decisions are largely emotional and that we use facts figures and logic to validate our decisions.
Insightful.
I can dig it.
I carry the Kel Tec PF9 while working. I’ve never had an issue with it.
Username checks out
The 19X and 43X are the two best Glocks ever made and I carry one of the two 90% of the time. Still need to pick up some shield mags for the 43X.
The best glocks arent made by Glock
I like the 45 over the 19x
The glock 21 is the best glock ever made. Don't get confused now mike.
The best gun geek out on TH-cam. I do think the width should be based upon an average of four sample points (1/2" back from muzzle, take down, slide release, and above beaver tail curve).
I have owned and carried a Kel-Tec PF-9 for years - If I remember correctly, I believe I purchased said handgun in 2012 for $239.00 + tax brand new.
It is my go-to carry pistol (and I have quite a few carry guns) due to its profile, concealability, and most importantly: reliability.
I can however confirm that the trigger is somewhat atrocious and the sights leave much to be desired - but it will go bang when you pull the trigger.
Daddy Short Shorts at Glock says "Notice me, senpai."
Proud of you for consistently making references to 4chan. Quite ballsy for such tight shorts
Looking forward to the .380 episode
WackySwacky LCP is going to win lol
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I would add the 48 with the shield mags, too. My math puts that right behind the 43X, with shield mags, on your list losing out only because of its greater weight. But the longer barrel with correspondingly longer sight radius and slightly larger weight should make the gun less jerky in its recoil impulse.
The list does a good job of using numerical analysis to look at what you might want to consider first. I think that you want to look at fit in the hand, as others mentioned, and at how you fire the gun if you can borrow one from a friend or rent one before buying. But this is a nice place to start.
If the Shield Arms mag doesn’t count as a significant aftermarket modification, then neither do the kits from Magguts which increase the capacities of many popular single stack nines.
UUGGHHH Stop making sense, it's annoying.
Back to the drawing board I guess.
Which is why you should just stick with factory gear.
Add me to this argument. A magguts+1 in the flush fit mag changes the S&W Shield to a score of 0.69.
@@mrgreenjeens Nice.
I have a DB9 Gen.4, and I do like it. I have heard about some issues, but in 400 rounds, havent had any issues myself. It's very snappy for a 9mm, but I carry my Sig Sauer SP2022 IWB, and my DB9 in an ankle holster as a backup.
I actually have a Ruger LC9s Pro for my EDC. At my height with bigger paws it just fits my hand. It's comfortable to carry and the trigger is decent. Not a bad gun for the price honestly.👍
Here's a challenge for you, and this is quite a challenge, do a top 10 Massachusetts compliant pistols list.
Glocks may be on the compliance list, but they are NOT compliant. That's how difficult it is
so james here you mention you edc the glock but on a previous video (hellcat vs p365) i believe you mentioned you edc'd the p365 for a few years - are you regularly switching out your daily w/ different guns or are you now 100% on the glock?
I regularly swap out. I know that's a **tactical** no-no, but I carry whatever the day calls for. I've got enough rounds through the P365 series and the G43/X/48 series that it's not an issue for me. Love them both. I'll do a video soon.
I've had a Kahr PM9 and K40. The PM9 worked fine, the K40 had a defective trigger bar, was in the shop for 4 weeks it still didn't work right. Got on the forums and saw how many people have this problem. The LC9s, G43, P365, XDS and Shield have been 100% reliable.
I just finished my trigger conversion on my LC9, last night. Dropped from a RIDICULOUS 5.8Lb to 3.7. It still has that 3mm of play at the beginning, but it so much lighter and crisp with no slop. Now has a great tactile and auditory reset. That factory trigger was the absolute worst though..
If you light off a round or two out of a short barrel 9mm without ear protection (defense situation) you won't hear the trigger re-set, I promise. If you're firing down a 3-1/2' wide hallway you won't hear much of anything for several hours.
Im a spread sheet kinda guy and this is awesome. Thanks for taking the time to build this and then share it.
I have a DB9 Gen 4 it's a fantastic little gun. I'm at roughly nine hundred rounds with no problems.I think diamondback went through their generations quickly because they were responding to customer feedback.
I own the DB9 gen 4. I can tell you it's not a fun gun to shoot. The only positive I can say is after shooting it, my G43 is no longer consider snappy but a really fun soft shooter. Let's talk about the customer service. I was in repair for at least 4-5 times and finally after a year they switch out the bottom with a different serial number that fix the problem of the mags disengaging while shooting. A whole year!
This hits me right in my S&W feels. Damn you and your logic, James...Damn you.
Looks like the DB9 gen4 should get a review here, I mean... you reviewed a hi point lol
I don't always agree with the rankings but your thought process and logic are always good.
Love the channel and what you do! Been watching for years! Rocking SW shield OG not 2.0 for my EDC for a while now, I love it ! I realize its not on this list lol still love it! Been eyeing a 43x for A minute now , might pull the trigger soon haha ! Have a great day, whoever reads this! Stay well stay safe!
I hope you haven't wasted your money on that 43x by now
Fell in love with the lc9/s made in Italy mags. The Cw9 mags tend to push the rounds forward or nosedive.
Using Magguts, I added another round to the capacity of my Kahr CW9. Rounds per square inch is 1.98 and rounds per ounce topped the list as well. Installation took a fraction of the time it takes to explain that I'm not a shill and I did nothing worse than putting an aftermarket mag in a Glock to win. Then I spent the rest of the time pointing out that if you bury a gun with a good trigger and slag it as a boutique weapon in a list of stank then you didn't prove anything with numbers.
Fun video, thanks James. Tired of hearing about dick in your videos but it's better than listening to the whining about daddy issues so keep them coming!
Been looking for a single stack conceal, this is the video I've been looking for. Thank you!
I feel like the Walther pps m2 should’ve been in there somewhere
Interesting opinion on the DB9. I wonder if that dealer friend has ever shot it or got returns on it. One of the first rifles I ever owned was a DB. Worked perfectly fine. I've never gotten the hate that people have for them.
I own a DB9, great for pocket carry.
Ok, I'm still ditching the 43x for the P365 because with OEM, FLUSH FIT mags the P365 is way smaller for the same capacity and you can reload with 15 rounds.
12:58 my favorite part of this video. dog poop into a jello jiggler mold haha
Good video. I actually heard good things about the gen 4 db9’s, I heard the earlier iterations were pretty rough.
No Ma'am I love my DB9 Gen 4
Sheild 45auto
There....i Saved you a bunch of time
None of that was correct.
I have a PF9 KelTek.- put a trigger kit in it and Presto -pretty good reliable accurate shooter!
Mossberg mc1 sc is a great gun 🔫
I know the DB9 gen 4 had some good reviews in regards to limp wrist tests and other type tests. Personally when it comes to what budget guns I do like Hops reviews cause he does throw a bunch of rounds through it and it seems he is always shooting in the rain which always helps show a items reliability.
Walther pps m2 ftw
Yeet
👍
or the CCP M2
Was surprised to see the pf9 on the list and in 2nd place dont feel so bad having it now but need that plus one mag extension my pinky is under the mag lol
When you're about to sleep but daddy James posts a video... Sleep can wait.
James I am glad that you like Kahr arms I get a lot of flak for loving them my first one was a tp9 and now I own a ct9 and love it
Just a reminder: Caleb Giddings fed his husband to tigers.
G M haha you sir, earned a like
I've been carrying my kahr for around 5 or 6 years now and I still love it, perfect size for me and I can drive tacks at 25 yards easily
What, a lawyer doing math? And it doesn't involve dollar amounts? What is this sorcery?
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Slowly turning into my favorite gun channel. Keep it up fellas
For me, the G48 makes the G43X irrelevant. Same grip length but with a better sight radius.
I agree with this thats why I got the 48 vs the 43x
Not to mention G19 ballistic performance 👌
Sold the 43x for a 48...
48 with shield arms mags and a tlr6 light mounted is the best do all pistol that I have ever shot
@@royalninnimuggins8987 i went with a recover tactical rail for the G48 and a Olight Pl mini 2
I like my XD-E, I was looking for a gun with a hammer and safety/decocker. 9 and 8 round mags, decent concealablity, flawless function, accurate for a short 3.3 inch barrel, nice trigger, good sights, ambi safety and mag release
DAMN GLOCK PAY REEVES
I've been carrying a Ruger LC9S pro for 3 years, upgraded sights to TFX and got the slide cerakoted black since the bluing was fairly worn being in SC/VA for most its life. Best $300 I ever spent on a gun.
Don’t care if Glock makes the top of the list. All I care in these videos is that it’s apples to apples. Throwing in aftermarket things into the equation is like an mma fighter taking steroids. By all means say hey this thing is available and it’s great but, keep it limited to it shipped from factory like this for the comparisons.
James, I think you should do a review of the Gen 4 Diamondback DB9!
JAX I agree. James I think you would actually like it. I own one and no issues at all with 300 rounds thru it. I think they are extremely underrated. 🇺🇸
Gen4's must be pretty popular, I can't find magazines anywhere...
Ok folks we're is my Springfield xds guys at 🏅💪🏅
Capacity to weight ratio is too low to score that high on the list. You didn't even see the hellcat or P365 make the list!
Why didn't the sig p365 or hellcat make the cut?
I love these videos. Do .22lr next.
Plot Twist: No single stack is practical since the P365 and hellcat is just as small with almost twice the capacity
Been carrying the 43x for 1 year. Upgraded to the 15 round mags after watching your video a while back. I agree completely that this is a very nice daily carry.
The video only takes into account size and capacity of firearm, which are two very important points. But they definitely do not encompass everything. Missing ergonomics, reliability, overall quality of firearm (Trigger, sights ect...) It is not capacity that will save you in the real world, it is marksmanship. Which is why ergonomics and quality of firearm really do matter. If capacity was the only factor then nobody would need to go to the range for practice. "Who needs practice when I have such a huge mag??" Very dumb way to think about things......
For example, even though in this comparison the Glock 43x/48 rank higher than a Shield2.0, I personally prefer the shield. The texturing on the grip is 10x better than a glock, the trigger is quite a bit better, and we don't even need to talk about Glock sights. TFB also says the Shield2.0 can only carry 7 rounds? I don't know what shield you guys are using but my shield's got 9 rounds. 8 in the mag and 1 in the chamber, how do you even get 7?? Would I drop 1 round from the capacity to be able to shoot my firearm better? You bet I would.
Walther pps m2 is my favorite single stack 9mm. It has a good trigger and is easier to shoot accurately than the rest on the list for me. I dont care if its a few ounces heavier or not the tiniest there is. I want to be able to hit what I need to. I have had one for 2 years, shot it over a thousand rounds and never hav a malfunction.
What a surprise, the Glock fanboy ranks more generic glocks the “best of the best” again.....
God damn subjective mathematics and arbitrary facts
@@tfbtv Math separates the rock stars from the groupies.
When will we see the best .380s for compact/ED carry and will you be considering the Bersa .380 Combat Plus in the review?
16 minutes of analysis on carry pieces. The rest is him talking about simping for glock. Lol
I picked up a used pf9 for $200, beat the hell out of it & then started to have problems w gritty trigger. Took to Kel Tec and they replaced everything but the frame & serial # and had it tested & ready for pick up before lunch the same day. Say what u want about Kel Tec, my family trusts our lives w um. The p32 w extend mag holds like 11 or 12 rds in one of the smallest, lightest packages out there.
Why do so many people hate Glock?
You probably won't see this but there is an error for the Ruger American Compact Double Stack. Factory is 12 (flush fit) and 17 (extended grip) round mags, not 10 like the sr9c was.
M&P Shield guy here. Just picked up the 2.0 to pair with my 2.0 Compact.
Thanks James, this is the exact spreadsheet science I like to see. Now Im interested in seeing this with 45acp. I love my XDM 3.8" 45acp, and have been thinking about the XDS 3.3" 45acp due to the single stack concealability
very informative, your spreadsheet is priceless. Thanks James
Great video James. I would take the Kahr P9 (black slide version) from your list. Kahrs feel so good in the hand, and are super accurate in the premium line. I know there is marketing blitz in recent years for small double stack pistols. I guess it helps to sell more guns, but is overblown. Most gunfights involve only four or five rounds fired total. The average concealed carrier, is unlikely to find themselves in a "John Wick" gunfight. Your well served with most single stack pistols.
Wow, top of the list for both single and double stack. I can see how people would think you're a shill. That being said, I'm really glad I ordered a 43X and Shield Arms magazines.
I fired one at the range and it was beautiful. It felt like it was made for my hand, making it one of the most comfortable and easy to shoot hand guns I've experienced. Recoil was surprisingly tame making follow up shots that much easier. I've never owned a Glock before and there was a stark contrast between the 43X and the 23 I fired a few years ago. I don't need affirmations from anyone else to make purchasing decisions. I got it because it fit all of my needs and the Shield Arms magazines sealed the deal.
We love TFB James. My Glock 19 MOS and my 43X MOS are my favorites even though I have several others.. 1911, SIG p320 etc.
Love the numbers thanks for sharing your MANY hours on the spreadsheet.
APX Carry has an error on the footprint column formula. You're welcome. Thanks for the reviews!
Nice vid.. Thanks for all the hard work you do.. I have a G-43x on order for the warmer weather.. Going to go nice with my cold weather EDC G-45.
Keep em rollin. Best channel on TH-cam 🤘
Great video. Love the unbiased data type info. Looking forward to the .380 review as I am now looking for a lighter pistol for EDC while working out/jogging/summertime clothes.
Looking forward to seeing what might be coming available in 30Super Carry that would make this list.