I miss Jim Hart. Probably my favorite QB. Spoke at my HS Senior all-sports banquet. A few years later I got to see him a couple times on campus when he was AD at our Alma meter. Go Dawgs.
Hart throwing "The Bomb" to Mel Gray made for many indelible memories as the plays were as beautiful as any work of Art...Wow do I miss the days of innocence as a young boy watching football with his Father...God Bless.
Pro2AGuy You sir just hit the nail on the head with your words as hard as a Larry Csonka rampage thru a scared secondary! I miss those days as well, the nostalgia of these clips and comments is quite powerful, serving as kind of a time machine. R.I.P Frank Gifford
+Pro2AGuy Hell yeah man I loved this team I love the 70s because it wasn't all about making the playoffs as obviously every team wants to eventually win a Super Bowl. Back then you could like your fav team or a certain team (The Cards and The Oilers with Earl, Billy White Shoes, Pastorini and Burroughs)whether they were in first or fifth place. I remember the 77 pro-bowl when Mel Gray was matched up against Mel Blount. Jim Hart threw nothing but bullets man he def is HOF worthy. As is OJ Anderson who made his star there boy I tell you football was great in those days...
+mookeychase0907 Beautifully put--Like you, I remember those days, Teams, Players, Announcers etc. like it were just yesterday (where does the time go?). The Monday Night Football Theme absent all the stupid 'Hollywood' production it's become today. The Super Bowl was the real deal of man vs. man straight up absent this ridiculous "HYPE" that today is so overblown I don't even tune into Super Bowl Sunday until the actual kick-off. How I wish I could snap my fingers and go back to that special time when Football was Football and men could play like men!
I was a huge Cowboys fan as a kid but I loved watch Hart play and it didn’t matter if the Cards were in the basement and the Cowboys were on their way to the Super Bowl the Cards always gave the Cowboys fits. Hart belongs in the HOF.
I suppose TE Jackie Smith from these Cardinals broke your heart. This is the Jaickie Smith who dropped a possible game winning touchdown in the Cowboys' loss to the Steelers in their 2nd Super Bowl game.
The thing I recall vividly about Jim Hart is that he didn't care about his stats, only about trying to win. That offensive line was certainly great but a lot of credit for those low sack records go to Hart, who would throw countless incompletions out of bounds to avoid getting sacked, much more than any other QB in the league at that time. He also didn't care about his TD pass totals and even when he called his own plays, he would constantly hand the ball of to Lane, Otis, or Anderson for the three or four yard TD when he could have easily called a short pass more to run up his stats.
Jim also when pushed out of the pocket took these subtle angle steps where a defender was always close but never could get to him. He always kept his head up when rushed but moved slowly of maintaining pocket presence. The thing to do to him was keep in the pocket make him throw those 10 yard slants or 10 yard between hash marks throws by playing zone or cover 2. He had a tendency to overthrow.
First team to implement high powered offensive football. Coreyell timing pattern style passing was mimicked across the NFL. Exciting to watch and many many nail biters.
When I was a kid I always likes Jim Hart and the St. Louis Cardinals The Bidwell Family are poor owners and should be ashamed of moving the Cardinals out of St. Louis
I grew up a St.Louis Cardinals fan even though I lived in Philadelphia. Jim Hart was just one of the reasons. Why and how Jim Hart is not in the HOF is a sin. Please do the right thing and elect that man!!!
Anyone care to weigh in on which of the following deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Jim Hart, Steve Grogan of the Patriots, Joe Ferguson of the Bills, Archie Manning of the Saints and Kenny Anderson of the Bengals. Together, the five of them must have 50-60 seasons of total experience with their teams,
sportshistorybuff Man u just named some incredible Qb's from back in tha day! Such an interesting question cuz these are the guys that r overlooked when talking bout the 70's but were amazing talents. kenny A was my boy, when fall wld come around and throwing the football in the backyard i wld choose to be KA cuz he was soo accurate an my friend wld be Stabler just cuz he was lefthanded (and The Snake was just the coolest..) Hart was awesome for 3 yrs an helped change the game. Grogan was actually on my bedroom door for years on a supercool poster, i musta liked the patriots unis! Ferguson was just too much overshadowed on a team Dominated by he-who-will-not-be-mentioned. Manning i just felt sorry for... until he spawned a family dynasty beyond imagination! But as much as i loved those guys and those memories (put on some NFL Films soundtrack music and i still want to run thru a brick wall) none of em should really be in, they were great but not All Time Greats. There really should be some other way or institution to honor these 2nd tier talents and to recognize their contributions and memories.
Hart and Anderson rightfully fo belong in the hall,Grogan I don't believe cuts it,yeah he played a long time,got the pats to the playoffs but his stats are very below average. Archie.. for sure belongs....to clean up the John's.
@@howardcosell2022 offense and defense equals a team. Better defense you get more possessions, offensively Warners weapons were equal to harts. Cards had a better line, except the one key component of the line Roger Finney was getting the heart killed. Orlando pace was better than anybody The Cardinals had, including Dierdorf. Actually, the Rams had a better Offense because Woerner was much better than heart. It wasn’t even close.
He did throw a lot of INTs, Andrew. But if you'll look at the stats of some Hall of Famers - Joe Namath comes to mind immediately - they threw more INTs than TDs. The game changed in the late 70s when the league modified he rules on pass blocking and secondary play. Still, though I loved Hart, I don't think he'd quite make my HOF cut.
I will say this plntntvzn Jim Hart might have had one of the top five offensive lines in nfl history(that is why his pocket pressence was better than warner's who had arguably one of the worst lines in the league).You could argue dierdorf is the number 1-2 guard in nfl history.On the other hand ChampCarforlife Kurt warner had better talent on defense(or atleast some semblence of a defense) and two hall of fame receivers.If the cards of the 70's had any defense what so ever they might have had a legitiment superbowl shot.
cbikin I don't care who the other four guys on the offense of line were if you had Orlando pace at left tackle you were not one of the worst offense of lines in the league. If Bill bidwell and George Boone knew anything about football. Jim Hart would have been throwing to John Gilliam ahmad rashad and Mel gray I would've taken them over anything Kurt Warner had. Bruce and holt very good football players but their stats were inflated by the times
Dec. 10, 1972, against the Los Angeles Rams, Hart completed a 98-yard pass to Bobby Moore (later named Ahmad Rashad). It is still the longest non-scoring play in the NFL. The ball was spotted at the Rams 1 yard line.
@@chrischar9428 clearly you did. You’re saying they’re terrible, but they’re not that was sarcasm. Plain stupidity is the fact that time ran and pace We’re on the same level compared to pace. Timmerman was terrible so really, it’s not sarcastic at all that’s just being completely erroneous.
An ace QB but not quite HOF level to me. Fantastic arm, effortless power really. Deserves more props than he gets but I can't see a really compelling argument for the HOF if you consider guys who aren't in there to begin with.
@@philbruin The passing game opened up in 1978 with the Mel Blount rule. Before that everyone ran the ball even Coryell though he threw more than most.
I remember Hart as an immobile, chubby pick machine who had only 2 pretty good seasons out of EIGHTEEN...& never won a playoff game! Unbelievable how long he held a starting job with STL...he must've agreed to a lower salary to keep ownership happy. He was basically the white Jameis Winston of his era who also threw 30 INTs in a season (1967) & only had ONE season as a starter where he had more TD passes than INTs! At least Winston has topped that every yr he has started & is much more mobile that Hart...but Winston still sux, so what does that say for Hart? LOL
They never had great defense to dominate but CB Roger Wherli was good. They did not draft a monster untill LB EJ Junior...early 1980's. I used to like WR Pat Tilley...underdog who fearlessly moved the chains.
I miss Jim Hart. Probably my favorite QB. Spoke at my HS Senior all-sports banquet. A few years later I got to see him a couple times on campus when he was AD at our Alma meter. Go Dawgs.
Hart and Ken Anderson were the 2 most underrated QB's in this era.
Chtyan Ken Anderson, like Jim Hart, came into the NFL as a lightly regarded small college (Augustana) quarterback and became great pro's.
Thank you!
and brian sipe!
@Anthony Wright
Good point!
Hart was HORRIBLE...the white Jameis Winston!
My all time favorite player. Loved the Cardinals in the 70's. Still love the team today
He was the athletic director at Southern Illinois University for several years, and also very active in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
I grew up a Steelers/Dolphins fan, and forgot just how good Jim Hart was....thanks for posting.
I’m not a Cardinals fan but I remember Jim Hart from when I was a kid. He was a hell of a good quarterback.
Hart throwing "The Bomb" to Mel Gray made for many indelible memories as the plays were as beautiful as any work of Art...Wow do I miss the days of innocence as a young boy watching football with his Father...God Bless.
Pro2AGuy You sir just hit the nail on the head with your words as hard as a Larry Csonka rampage thru a scared secondary! I miss those days as well, the nostalgia of these clips and comments is quite powerful, serving as kind of a time machine. R.I.P Frank Gifford
***** Ditto... And yes indeed, R.I.P Mr. Gifford. God Bless.
+Pro2AGuy Hell yeah man I loved this team I love the 70s because it wasn't all about making the playoffs as obviously every team wants to eventually win a Super Bowl. Back then you could like your fav team or a certain team (The Cards and The Oilers with Earl, Billy White Shoes, Pastorini and Burroughs)whether they were in first or fifth place. I remember the 77 pro-bowl when Mel Gray was matched up against Mel Blount. Jim Hart threw nothing but bullets man he def is HOF worthy. As is OJ Anderson who made his star there boy I tell you football was great in those days...
+mookeychase0907 Beautifully put--Like you, I remember those days, Teams, Players, Announcers etc. like it were just yesterday (where does the time go?). The Monday Night Football Theme absent all the stupid 'Hollywood' production it's become today. The Super Bowl was the real deal of man vs. man straight up absent this ridiculous "HYPE" that today is so overblown I don't even tune into Super Bowl Sunday until the actual kick-off. How I wish I could snap my fingers and go back to that special time when Football was Football and men could play like men!
He was great! I loved watching him play.
One of my childhood heroes!
'70's football was the best! The many names mentioned below bring back so many memories!
So underrated. I had his football cards when I was a kid. First time I found out about him. From 73-78, that was his prime, and fantastic.
I was a huge Cowboys fan as a kid but I loved watch Hart play and it didn’t matter if the Cards were in the basement and the Cowboys were on their way to the Super Bowl the Cards always gave the Cowboys fits. Hart belongs in the HOF.
When football was about football
He gave my Cowboys fits...
growing up a cowboy fan hart made me so nervous, should be a hall of famer
If Aikman is in the Hall Of Fame, then Jim Hart DEFINITELY needs to be.
@@judahsoremy9857 every time I watched him he Mel Gray n Roy Green was always burnin the boys deep
I suppose TE Jackie Smith from these Cardinals broke your heart. This is the Jaickie Smith who dropped a possible game winning touchdown in the Cowboys' loss to the Steelers in their 2nd Super Bowl game.
The thing I recall vividly about Jim Hart is that he didn't care about his stats, only about trying to win. That offensive line was certainly great but a lot of credit for those low sack records go to Hart, who would throw countless incompletions out of bounds to avoid getting sacked, much more than any other QB in the league at that time. He also didn't care about his TD pass totals and even when he called his own plays, he would constantly hand the ball of to Lane, Otis, or Anderson for the three or four yard TD when he could have easily called a short pass more to run up his stats.
Terry Metcalf was in there somewhere. Exciting, could break a long tub at any time, but could fumble at any time also.
Jim also when pushed out of the pocket took these subtle angle steps where a defender was always close but never could get to him. He always kept his head up when rushed but moved slowly of maintaining pocket presence. The thing to do to him was keep in the pocket make him throw those 10 yard slants or 10 yard between hash marks throws by playing zone or cover 2. He had a tendency to overthrow.
Your description fits Dan Fouts as well
Hart to Mel Gray...a popular TD duo.
One of my sports heroes. The Cardiac Cardinals were sure fun to watch. If only their defense was as good as their offense.
Harrell Kerkhoff Sucked in '76 when they missed the playoffs due to the tie-breaker(Redskins swept the Cards) to Washington.
Most underrated QB of all time
He should be in the Hall of Fame.
great flashback video. I vividly remember the cardiac cards. lots of talent on those teams.
great offensive line
Hart and Dan Fouts could really light up the scoreboard and Don Coryell coached both the Cardinals and the Chargers
Don Coryell was an offensive minded genius! Air Coryell made football fun to watch!
First team to implement high powered offensive football. Coreyell timing pattern style passing was mimicked across the NFL. Exciting to watch and many many nail biters.
When I was a kid I always likes Jim Hart and the St. Louis Cardinals
The Bidwell Family are poor owners and should be ashamed of moving the Cardinals out of St. Louis
St Louis sucks balls .
He's the greatest NFL player from my college, Southern Illinois U.
I grew up a St.Louis Cardinals fan even though I lived in Philadelphia.
Jim Hart was just one of the reasons.
Why and how Jim Hart is not in the HOF is a sin.
Please do the right thing and elect that man!!!
He had an arm like a bazooka!
I drove by the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio, and did not stop because he is not in it.
I remember these Cardinal teams. The offense was phenomenal, but the defense was mediocre at best, which is why they didn't have much playoff success.
One of the most underrated QB of all time. Kurt Warner remind me of Jim Hart.
Jim Hart to Mel Gray. What a combo!
The one thing that Don Coryell really needed throughout his career: a good defensive coordinator.
Whatever legacy their QB's have began with him.
Hart, Lomax, Warner. A few in between, but they were the best!
Anyone care to weigh in on which of the following deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Jim Hart, Steve Grogan of the Patriots, Joe Ferguson of the Bills, Archie Manning of the Saints and Kenny Anderson of the Bengals. Together, the five of them must have 50-60 seasons of total experience with their teams,
sportshistorybuff Man u just named some incredible Qb's from back in tha day! Such an interesting question cuz these are the guys that r overlooked when talking bout the 70's but were amazing talents. kenny A was my boy, when fall wld come around and throwing the football in the backyard i wld choose to be KA cuz he was soo accurate an my friend wld be Stabler just cuz he was lefthanded (and The Snake was just the coolest..) Hart was awesome for 3 yrs an helped change the game. Grogan was actually on my bedroom door for years on a supercool poster, i musta liked the patriots unis! Ferguson was just too much overshadowed on a team Dominated by he-who-will-not-be-mentioned. Manning i just felt sorry for... until he spawned a family dynasty beyond imagination! But as much as i loved those guys and those memories (put on some NFL Films soundtrack music and i still want to run thru a brick wall) none of em should really be in, they were great but not All Time Greats. There really should be some other way or institution to honor these 2nd tier talents and to recognize their contributions and memories.
sportshistorybuff No on the first three, yes to the last two, especially Kenny
Hart and Anderson rightfully fo belong in the hall,Grogan I don't believe cuts it,yeah he played a long time,got the pats to the playoffs but his stats are very below average. Archie.. for sure belongs....to clean up the John's.
Had jim hart played for the cowboys, packers or steelers you can bet hed be a hall of famer by now. Its a crime jim hart isnt a hall of famer
Threw for a lot yards for some pretty bad teams, that should put him in Canton.
He only played for one team. He only had seven Pass Attempts while in Washington.
I sill colect his cards
QB Jim Hart had a much better sense of when his pass pocket around him was collapsing than Kurt Warner had.
Kurt got the cards to the SB and two NFC title games...Did Jim 🤷🤦
@@cjdickey1650 I am not questioning that warner was better. However Kurt had a much better team than did hart.
@@finnfinn7703 On the defensive side of the ball
@@howardcosell2022 offense and defense equals a team. Better defense you get more possessions, offensively Warners weapons were equal to harts. Cards had a better line, except the one key component of the line Roger Finney was getting the heart killed. Orlando pace was better than anybody The Cardinals had, including Dierdorf. Actually, the Rams had a better Offense because Woerner was much better than heart. It wasn’t even close.
How Jim Hart isn't in the Hall of Fame is a travesty and a travesty of justice. Had he played in NY he would have been in by now.
I disagree. He threw a ton of INT's. I think 2 qb's of that era that have a better claim would be John Brodie or Roman
Gabriel.
He did throw a lot of INTs, Andrew. But if you'll look at the stats of some Hall of Famers - Joe Namath comes to mind immediately - they threw more INTs than TDs. The game changed in the late 70s when the league modified he rules on pass blocking and secondary play. Still, though I loved Hart, I don't think he'd quite make my HOF cut.
@@andrewr62 isn’t Gabriel in the hall of fame
@@kowalski6590 Joe Namath doesn’t belong either
@@andrewsucksatvideos4482 If you base it on stats, no, Namath doesn't belong.
If bruce arians had the offensive line the cards had in the 70's he would jizz himself because he would probably be throwing verticals every play.
I agree....Our oline and dline were atrocious.
I will say this plntntvzn Jim Hart might have had one of the top five offensive lines in nfl history(that is why his pocket pressence was better than warner's who had arguably one of the worst lines in the league).You could argue dierdorf is the number 1-2 guard in nfl history.On the other hand ChampCarforlife Kurt warner had better talent on defense(or atleast some semblence of a defense) and two hall of fame receivers.If the cards of the 70's had any defense what so ever they might have had a legitiment superbowl shot.
Dierdorf was a tackle not a guard. Dobler and Young were the guards on those teams.
Thank you for the correction.
cbikin I don't care who the other four guys on the offense of line were if you had Orlando pace at left tackle you were not one of the worst offense of lines in the league. If Bill bidwell and George Boone knew anything about football. Jim Hart would have been throwing to John Gilliam ahmad rashad and Mel gray I would've taken them over anything Kurt Warner had. Bruce and holt very good football players but their stats were inflated by the times
The Cards defense was never good, that's why they never made it past the first round of the playoffs.
What's been wrong with the Cowboys since the cards beat them in the WC 25 years ago?
The Matthew Stafford of the 70s
Good call
Idk I heard there defense back then was some bum status.Go Cardinals!
I read that Hart threw a ball 98 yards in the air. Anyone know if this is actually true?? bc it sounds impossible.
Dec. 10, 1972, against the Los Angeles Rams, Hart completed a 98-yard pass to Bobby Moore (later named Ahmad Rashad). It is still the longest non-scoring play in the NFL. The ball was spotted at the Rams 1 yard line.
@@SRSOSChannel2 doesn't mean he threw it that far
@@chrischar9428 that wasn't yac. it was a 98 yard throw.
@@SRSOSChannel2 yes it was. Hart didn't throw 98 yards
@@SRSOSChannel2 where you go
They also had one of the best offensive lines ever though, Warner had a bunch of has-beens and never-weres.
Yeah Pace and Timmerman were terrible
@@chrischar9428 Timmerman was a good player. You do not put him in the same sentence as Orlando pace. They were almost completely different species.
@@finnfinn7703 clearly you missed sarcasm class
@@chrischar9428 clearly you did. You’re saying they’re terrible, but they’re not that was sarcasm. Plain stupidity is the fact that time ran and pace We’re on the same level compared to pace. Timmerman was terrible so really, it’s not sarcastic at all that’s just being completely erroneous.
@@finnfinn7703 that's sarcasm...JFC
An ace QB but not quite HOF level to me. Fantastic arm, effortless power really. Deserves more props than he gets but I can't see a really compelling argument for the HOF if you consider guys who aren't in there to begin with.
Clogg put the Babyface in the Hall
Jackie Smith could score against the Cowboys, but couldn't score for them.
Trash commentary... the Cards ran the ball A LOT during 74 to 76. Jim Otis led the NFC in rushing in 1975.
Don Coryell's offense
@@howardcosell2022 Exactly, the Chargers ran the ball effectively when he was there too.
@@philbruin The passing game opened up in 1978 with the Mel Blount rule. Before that everyone ran the ball even Coryell though he threw more than most.
But with all that talent he had on offense he wasn't able to take his team to the Super Bowl like Warner did.
ChampCarforlife Football is a team game, his Cardinal teams had no defense(Coryell never emphasized defense).
@@jeffreyt.steptoe5306 Really? He tried to emphasize defense. The ownership and management wouldn’t let him emphasize it.
I remember Hart as an immobile, chubby pick machine who had only 2 pretty good seasons out of EIGHTEEN...& never won a playoff game! Unbelievable how long he held a starting job with STL...he must've agreed to a lower salary to keep ownership happy. He was basically the white Jameis Winston of his era who also threw 30 INTs in a season (1967) & only had ONE season as a starter where he had more TD passes than INTs! At least Winston has topped that every yr he has started & is much more mobile that Hart...but Winston still sux, so what does that say for Hart? LOL
They never had great defense to dominate but CB Roger Wherli was good. They did not draft a monster untill LB EJ Junior...early 1980's. I used to like WR Pat Tilley...underdog who fearlessly moved the chains.
Don't know much timmy
Did somebody type this for you? Because you obviously don’t have the intelligence to do it yourself.