Hello DT, Thanks for reviewing our OS. You did a great job explaining the functionality and your personal opinions about our operating system. With all that aside, we would like to kindly mention that Oreon is here for a reason. I've seen a lot of distributions that have nothing other than some extensions slapped onto it and some extra packages shipping with the ISO. Here at oreonproject, we have a goal (as a team) to make an Enterprise Linux distribution that provides more packages and functionality than any other out there. It may sound like an excuse, but it is certainly the goal we plan to stick to. Oreon has a few packages and extra functionality that AlmaLinux, Rocky, CentOS, and RHEL don't have. One of the biggest at the moment is WINE/Proton support. If you try to run WINE or Steam Proton applications and games on these other RHEL compatible OSes, it simply won't function. This is mainly because they don't provide or plan to add the proper architecture to make it run properly. We are also working on a lot for the next major release, which is planned to release in 2025. One being an all in one system manager aimed to make it easy to manage your system's packages, drivers, containers, and virtual machines all in one application. We will also soon release a rolling-release edition of Oreon so people can get brand new packages right away. You will see, over time we will have a bigger selling point, leading to a growing user base. People like DT help get these projects recognized and we at oreonproject would like to say thank you. 😀
One of the very few things I actually like about modern Gnome is that they use the "generic" name for apps as their main names. I use Plasma, but I take the time to edit each .desktop file to swap Names and Generic Names to replicate that. I guess to me it's a million times more important that the app is a Document Viewer than it is that it's named Okular, for instance. Well, to each their own-- that is much of what Linux is about after all.
it also depends on how you prefer to invoke your programs. if you ever need to launch from terminal it's useful to know the "true" name of the program, and Gnome's way of doing things obscures that
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx Absolutely no argument. That's why I move the true name of the program to the Generic Name slot. You still see it, it's just basically the subtitle. Knowing the true name of the app is invaluable. Unlike on Windows, where you can launch an app from the command prompt but doing so affords no real advantage, there's a *ton* you can learn when troubleshooting a Linux app by launching it from the Terminal.
I think it's the fact that the disk shows a checkmark, but it's not actually selected. And also that you click "Done" buttons on the bottom right and top left, instead of being consistent.
Automatic is only automatic if there is enough space on the available partitions. When selecting automatic with Ubiquity and Calamres. It will resize the portions. Another flaw in Anaconda is when you forget a step, it is no obvious which step you forgot. I've always called Anaconda the choose your own adventure installer. 😂
Hey DT. I ended up in a bit of a dillema with backing up Ubuntu using timeshift with rsync. Happened so, the backups started hogging up too much space on my main hard drive. So I plugged in a new hard drive and wanted to transfer the whole lot of timeshift backups onto the new one. Unfortunately I do not find any way of officially doing this in timeshift. All I see is the option to change the place where timeshift should store it's backups and that's all. I doesn't move anything around. I tried manually coping from nautalis file manager but run into security issues since the timeshift backups are locked and secured. Any suggestions on this?
Waze app or apps in general via a Linux app store doesn't seem to exist per se from what I'm gleaning but there's a few work a rounds to create it via Linux? Can access it the Waze website. I'm an Android, MS user so gotta go via Linux on my 2 older puters which work flawlessly but won't get the Windows support in Oct 25, thx for your info via your website
Looks like it has the "Dash to Panel" extension which is something I absolutely won't use GNOME without. Why the GNOME team even with version 40 made you need to click a button or move the mouse into a hot corner to pull up the dock is beyond me - it's the most annoying thing they've ever done.
That's been the case since GNOME 3. Most good distros just shipped an extension for it to have a permanent dock or panel (like Ubuntu). And no, I don't find Canonical that much better than IBM Hat, but they haven't done (you know what I'm talking about) yet.
That still? It is because the DE is focused on you not having to use the mouse so often. But as most people know computers from a first experience with Windows, they're stuck in this paradigm of the mouse being the main tool to use a computer. I never have to use the hot corner to access the dock. I even disable it in the settings.
@@cameronbosch1213 of course! That's why other DEs exist. That's why when you go buy a car you choose one that meets your needs. You don't buy a mini sedan and use it as you would use a truck to move heavy stuff around and then complain about the car. Gnome is right in keeping its purpose.
@@neilpatrickhairless I said it once. What exactly is wrong with you, unless you're just 14 years old or something? Don't tell me what words to use. Are you in charge of me? You're not, jerk.
My favorite for my Dell i5 laptop has been Garuda Mint. The family can use it just fine and it works great. Actually super fast as well especially from sleep.
There's constantly new distributions that pop up... And 99% of them are useless. and literally bring nothing to the table except for themeing Case in point this one
Realistically, there’s only 8 distros worth knowing: Debian Fedora Arch openSUSE NixOS Gentoo Alpine Void Everything else is either one of the above with some minor tweaks or so obscure as to be borderline useless.
What would you want to see in an operating system that hasn't existed in ever single operating system since 2000? There's not a lot new that CAN be brought to the table other than AI related stuff
When you click on the Disk Configuration screen, it will automatically select the one drive that is available. This is the literally the part that confuses you EVERY TIME you install a RHEL based distro, bro.
All these distros seem to be saying the same thing lately. Your super secure password may not be all that strong and secure after all. Apparently two characters is no longer enough to dictionary attacks. Better go back to the drawing board on your password!
I don't get it lol all of these distribution videos are 95% identical, literally identical... You just show the same applications, kernel version, and ....the wallpapers.. Nothing at all mentioned anywhere talking about actual distribution internal differences amongst the various distribs. Nothing about what makes X distro better or worse off than Y distribution. Sorry but just saying, opening htop to "see how much cpu and ram" we're using, or looking at the browser version... or printing the output of 'uname' or 'uptime', it's all identical and doesn't really serve any purpose because the main thing to discuss would be how different distributions tackle different issues and what sets them apart under the hood. Just saying, when I'm looking for a distribution, I'm not looking at wallpapers or empty readouts of htop while the system is idle, I already should know how much cpu/ram my machine has, or how much storage I have; checking the version of the browser that has shipped along with distribution means little to absolute nothing, same deal as going through the stock menus and just opening all the same apps on every distribution... not sure I follow what the actual goal is
The entire purpose of Alma is to be a free version of RHEL, the whole selling point is that it's fully "binary compatible with RHEL" as seen on the front page of the website
Then why are you here? This isn't a BSD video/chanel. Are you seeking here for some pats on the back and how you are so cool for you using BSD? Because that's not gonna happen.
@@sharkuel well since all Engagement is good Engagement ( concerning Google algorithms.) him writing this is good for DT.... So why complain? And yes this distro is boring
@@danilodistefanis5990 Enjoy your BSD midlife crisis, fam, nobody thinks you are cool. Its people like you that ruin the BSD community. I love the fact that you guys like to shit on Linux users and devs, but don't realize that 80% of the tools used in BSD that bring it to modern standards have been developed by the same "linux girls on their periods". Typical "i need to be part of the cult" behaviour from someone who may have switched last week to BSD and now believes he is hackerman.
Hello DT, Thanks for reviewing our OS. You did a great job explaining the functionality and your personal opinions about our operating system. With all that aside, we would like to kindly mention that Oreon is here for a reason. I've seen a lot of distributions that have nothing other than some extensions slapped onto it and some extra packages shipping with the ISO. Here at oreonproject, we have a goal (as a team) to make an Enterprise Linux distribution that provides more packages and functionality than any other out there. It may sound like an excuse, but it is certainly the goal we plan to stick to. Oreon has a few packages and extra functionality that AlmaLinux, Rocky, CentOS, and RHEL don't have. One of the biggest at the moment is WINE/Proton support. If you try to run WINE or Steam Proton applications and games on these other RHEL compatible OSes, it simply won't function. This is mainly because they don't provide or plan to add the proper architecture to make it run properly. We are also working on a lot for the next major release, which is planned to release in 2025. One being an all in one system manager aimed to make it easy to manage your system's packages, drivers, containers, and virtual machines all in one application. We will also soon release a rolling-release edition of Oreon so people can get brand new packages right away.
You will see, over time we will have a bigger selling point, leading to a growing user base. People like DT help get these projects recognized and we at oreonproject would like to say thank you. 😀
Thanks! And great job on the distro! :D
Can you tell us a bit more about the team behind Oreon?
Would the rolling release be based on CentOS Stream?
Ive been using this distro for a month now and it's very stable so far. I love the simplicity and easy to use!
I subscribe to your points. I have also 1 month with this distro and all work nice and stable.
Hackers are still tearing out their hair trying to decrypt DT's strong and complicated password.
Which of course they never will.
This one looks really good. I can see it becoming a new Zorin or maybe a new Mint.
This is a horrible comment
@@toadragethe5th why? Is it because Mint is not based on plasmaKDE?
One of the very few things I actually like about modern Gnome is that they use the "generic" name for apps as their main names. I use Plasma, but I take the time to edit each .desktop file to swap Names and Generic Names to replicate that. I guess to me it's a million times more important that the app is a Document Viewer than it is that it's named Okular, for instance. Well, to each their own-- that is much of what Linux is about after all.
it also depends on how you prefer to invoke your programs. if you ever need to launch from terminal it's useful to know the "true" name of the program, and Gnome's way of doing things obscures that
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx Absolutely no argument. That's why I move the true name of the program to the Generic Name slot. You still see it, it's just basically the subtitle. Knowing the true name of the app is invaluable. Unlike on Windows, where you can launch an app from the command prompt but doing so affords no real advantage, there's a *ton* you can learn when troubleshooting a Linux app by launching it from the Terminal.
That menu system actually reminds me of Cinnamon.
Thats Arcmenu with dash to panel
The applications menu should have been glassy to match the dock-panel.
I suddenly want some Oreo cookies.
Maybe Onion? :D
@@isaiasprestes onion flavoured oreos
thats what i told to myself when the creator talked about it on discord lol
We need to save RPM/Red Hat based Distros from IBM and make them independent again away from corporate control and greed.
I really love this dockbar
That welcome screen is of Gnome...
Since Oreon it's based on Alma Linux, and that is a Red Hat Linux variation, is Oreon similar to Fedora?
It's similar to Alma, Rocky and RHEL.
The creator of this distro just noticed this in the All Things Linux discord :P
Top notch advertisement exulan haha
Thx for the presentation. And why I should use Oreon instead of Alma? Does it use newer kernel or anything that does not Alma give me out of the box?
I think they talk about the difference on their website. There are some improvements.
nice theme
How is Anaconda confusing? lol Fedora was my second distro and I never understood why it is confusing, it is quite simple and focused, actually.
Even I don't know why people keep complaining about anaconda Installer
I think it's the fact that the disk shows a checkmark, but it's not actually selected. And also that you click "Done" buttons on the bottom right and top left, instead of being consistent.
Automatic is only automatic if there is enough space on the available partitions. When selecting automatic with Ubiquity and Calamres. It will resize the portions. Another flaw in Anaconda is when you forget a step, it is no obvious which step you forgot.
I've always called Anaconda the choose your own adventure installer. 😂
Anaconda is confusing to one person (that I have found) - DT. If it's not Calamares, then it is confusing.
@@jesse7631anaconda is a shit installer. It’s UX by bellends who just chuck buttons on a screen.
Hey DT. I ended up in a bit of a dillema with backing up Ubuntu using timeshift with rsync. Happened so, the backups started hogging up too much space on my main hard drive. So I plugged in a new hard drive and wanted to transfer the whole lot of timeshift backups onto the new one. Unfortunately I do not find any way of officially doing this in timeshift. All I see is the option to change the place where timeshift should store it's backups and that's all. I doesn't move anything around. I tried manually coping from nautalis file manager but run into security issues since the timeshift backups are locked and secured. Any suggestions on this?
Waze app or apps in general via a Linux app store doesn't seem to exist per se from what I'm gleaning but there's a few work a rounds to create it via Linux? Can access it the Waze website. I'm an Android, MS user so gotta go via Linux on my 2 older puters which work flawlessly but won't get the Windows support in Oct 25, thx for your info via your website
the home screen is basically the normal gnome thing i've seen on other distros like pop_os and such
Wonder why the are using virt manager (GUI) instead of Gnome boxes ...
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Looks like it has the "Dash to Panel" extension which is something I absolutely won't use GNOME without. Why the GNOME team even with version 40 made you need to click a button or move the mouse into a hot corner to pull up the dock is beyond me - it's the most annoying thing they've ever done.
That's been the case since GNOME 3. Most good distros just shipped an extension for it to have a permanent dock or panel (like Ubuntu). And no, I don't find Canonical that much better than IBM Hat, but they haven't done (you know what I'm talking about) yet.
That still? It is because the DE is focused on you not having to use the mouse so often. But as most people know computers from a first experience with Windows, they're stuck in this paradigm of the mouse being the main tool to use a computer. I never have to use the hot corner to access the dock. I even disable it in the settings.
@@SnLeo-zx6qy I should be able to work a desktop to my needs, not completely the other way around.
@@cameronbosch1213 of course! That's why other DEs exist. That's why when you go buy a car you choose one that meets your needs. You don't buy a mini sedan and use it as you would use a truck to move heavy stuff around and then complain about the car.
Gnome is right in keeping its purpose.
@SnLeo-zx6qy The only problem with that is that no major enterprise distro has another option available officially supported.
Is there a 32 bit version ?
Thanks for your time and help dose it stable for daily use or not
As a dev of Oreon, yes it is
ok...but why? what is the benfit of basing on alma as opposed to the other big two?
I think if you double tap "super" you'll probably find the typical Gnome application launcher.
the creator of Oreon saw it on a linux discord, im sure he will comment soon lol
Ouch! My first reading was "My First Time Looking At Onion". What? Onion? Let me grab my glasses. Gosh!! :D
It uses the Anaconda installer that ALL RHEL based distros use, bro. Alma, Rocky, Red Hat, Fedora, etc...
Bro, no one here is your brother or related to you at all bro, so no need to call people bro every ten to twelve words you type, bro
@@neilpatrickhairless I said it once. What exactly is wrong with you, unless you're just 14 years old or something? Don't tell me what words to use. Are you in charge of me? You're not, jerk.
My favorite for my Dell i5 laptop has been Garuda Mint. The family can use it just fine and it works great. Actually super fast as well especially from sleep.
There's constantly new distributions that pop up...
And 99% of them are useless.
and literally bring nothing to the table except for themeing
Case in point this one
do you daily drive vanilla Alma? is it suitable for normie usage?
I agree.
Realistically, there’s only 8 distros worth knowing:
Debian
Fedora
Arch
openSUSE
NixOS
Gentoo
Alpine
Void
Everything else is either one of the above with some minor tweaks or so obscure as to be borderline useless.
@@Irremnent
Solus and Slackware as well since both are also independent distros.
What would you want to see in an operating system that hasn't existed in ever single operating system since 2000? There's not a lot new that CAN be brought to the table other than AI related stuff
8 years... i guess that's what "long-term" in LTS means lol
Bro, Display Settings are literally a right-click menu selection on the desktop.
The tour is not for Oreon DT, it's for GNOME. It is always the tour for GNOME. Not Oreon.
You forgot to type bro twice in that sentence bro, now it's confusing bro, congratulations bro
@@neilpatrickhairless See professional help soon. You are some kind of messed up if one word freaks you out this much.
When you click on the Disk Configuration screen, it will automatically select the one drive that is available. This is the literally the part that confuses you EVERY TIME you install a RHEL based distro, bro.
All these distros seem to be saying the same thing lately. Your super secure password may not be all that strong and secure after all. Apparently two characters is no longer enough to dictionary attacks. Better go back to the drawing board on your password!
you must be new on board, then let me tell you - the "strong and complicated password" thing is a meme, confirmed by DT himself
yet another gnome distro - YAWN, next!
is this distro down fedora?
Yes
nice video :)
I attempted to try Oreon with gnome-boxes, but the livecd boot ended with a kernel panic.
Too bad.
DT can you take a look at Redox OS next?
please look at VanillaOS
Next version of Fedora gona have a WAY better version of an Installer.. anaconda is on the way out
I think that your strong and complicated password is "dt".
I don't get it lol all of these distribution videos are 95% identical, literally identical... You just show the same applications, kernel version, and ....the wallpapers..
Nothing at all mentioned anywhere talking about actual distribution internal differences amongst the various distribs. Nothing about what makes X distro better or worse off than Y distribution.
Sorry but just saying, opening htop to "see how much cpu and ram" we're using, or looking at the browser version... or printing the output of 'uname' or 'uptime', it's all identical and doesn't really serve any purpose because the main thing to discuss would be how different distributions tackle different issues and what sets them apart under the hood. Just saying, when I'm looking for a distribution, I'm not looking at wallpapers or empty readouts of htop while the system is idle, I already should know how much cpu/ram my machine has, or how much storage I have; checking the version of the browser that has shipped along with distribution means little to absolute nothing, same deal as going through the stock menus and just opening all the same apps on every distribution... not sure I follow what the actual goal is
I prefer Debian base distro, void Linux and OpenBSD
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>Yet again clicks around a Desktop Environment
"This is the distro!"
Most "distros" are themed desktop environments and 50 year old code otherwise. Your point?
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Alma Linux is NOT a RHEL clone!
The entire purpose of Alma is to be a free version of RHEL, the whole selling point is that it's fully "binary compatible with RHEL" as seen on the front page of the website
That sucks...
Boring. That’s why I moved to BSD.
Then why are you here? This isn't a BSD video/chanel. Are you seeking here for some pats on the back and how you are so cool for you using BSD? Because that's not gonna happen.
@@sharkuel well since all Engagement is good Engagement ( concerning Google algorithms.) him writing this is good for DT....
So why complain?
And yes this distro is boring
congratulations on using a OS that doesn't support most modern peripherals and hardware :))
Wow. I didn’t expect a simple opinion would put a bunch of linux girls into their periods. thank G*d I moved to BSD.
@@danilodistefanis5990 Enjoy your BSD midlife crisis, fam, nobody thinks you are cool. Its people like you that ruin the BSD community. I love the fact that you guys like to shit on Linux users and devs, but don't realize that 80% of the tools used in BSD that bring it to modern standards have been developed by the same "linux girls on their periods". Typical "i need to be part of the cult" behaviour from someone who may have switched last week to BSD and now believes he is hackerman.