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Having a military doesn’t mean we want war, it’s like having an insurance policy. Having an insurance policy doesn’t mean you want an accident.
Well said.
Well said. It's better to be prepared for the worst possible outcome than the worst possible outcome to occur and need to prepare.
“We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us." Winston Churchill
Those days are long gone unfortunately 🇬🇧
George Orwell actually x
it was actually Orwell that said that and it was referring to the police.
No there not; human nature doesn't change @@Skyrim321
@@amysutt well done! you actually made me laugh out loud.
Hi JPS! The Paras are some tough Soldiers for sure! They've got some great history too, specially in WW2. I have nothing but respect for them! The US Airborne actually has the Honour to wear the same colour Maroon Berets that the Paras wear. This originated when the Commander of the British First Airborne Corps, granted the US 509th Parachute Infantry Battalion honourary membership in the British Parachute Regiment.
Paras are tough guys no doubt. But besides the ghurkas they are teddy bears ,
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Operation market garden, northern island and the Falklands.
"In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard."
Wilhelm Bittrich
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The Regimental march of the Paras is "Ride of the Valkyries" - that says it all
Yeah…no. Valkyries are all women, my man!
@@lynnm6413 But Valkyries are the ones who take the souls of warriors fallen in battle to Valhalla...
@@infinitytheorem oh, Yes…I knew that, just didn‘t make the connection!
Kinda morbid, wouldn‘t you say?
@@lynnm6413 It is, but that's the nature of war. Within the grim shadow of constant peril, soldiers weave dark humor and morbidity into their daily lives as indispensable shields against the omnipresent specter of death.
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its better to be a soldier in a garden than a gardener in a war.
nearly there
Someone dribbles up this one every fuckin' thread.
Depends what garden and what war
@@kingy002 it's better to be a man who is capable of violence but has it under control over a man who is incapable of violence because then there's no virtue in not being violent.
That's better?
@@loganfore how so
There’s a whole series following recruits through their training. There’s also a similar series following Royal Marine recruits. The Paras and Marines are where the majority of the SAS/SBS stem from.
Really proud my Dad was a Para. He brought me up with the history of the Paras. Sadly he passed away October 2023. My pride for him will never diminish. Love you Dad.
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Paras are a different breed. Closest thing to a modern day Spartan. Got a few screws loose, but their heart's in the right place- definitely ones to have on your side 💪🏻
One thing to bare in mind Joel most of these lads are around 17 -18 years old, they have to be trained aggressively, their lives and their mates lives depend on it, they are one of the elite regiments of the British infantry, this training instills discipline and confidence in their own and their teammates abilities, it is the application of Controlled aggression they are learning, the ability to, when things go wrong in the heat of battle, react instinctively and quickly to orders given, but also know what they should do in any given situation, We train hard, to fight easily. when it comes to war we pray it never happens, but, when and if it does we have to be ready, to defend our country, our homes, our families, but more importantly the man standing beside you....
Unfortunately in the years to come we are possibly facing war again…
We‘be been sheltered to grow up believing to have left it behind.
All British line infantry regiments go through this same bayonet training. It's called Sword week and it's quite intense to say the least.
My brother was a para he served in northern Ireland, bosnia where he reieved a medal for evacuating a building which had boobie traps inside, also served in Iraq. Once a para always a para they are tight, brothers in arms .
The term 'Joe' originates from WW2 when the Parachute Regiment was created. At that time JOE meant Joined On Enlistment, straight from civil life into the Regiment. All Parachute Regiment recruits are referred to as Joe until they pass Basic Training and are awarded the 'Red Beret', after which they are considered to have done enough to merit respect from their instructors, and are therefore and thereafter in the Regiment called by their real name.
Maroon... The monkeys wear red
Is that where the term “the average Joe” comes from?
There was an old tv show about the them, I remember as a kid.
The PARA's regimental motto is “'Utrinque Paratus' ('Ready for Anything').
It's been reported that the SAS is now made up of close to 60% ex-Paras.
Yup, and the SBS is made up of majority Royal Marines 🇬🇧
Having practiced sword and staff martial arts. Part of the the screaming is timed with the thrust, if done properly it causes the body to exhale and relaxes the shoulder muscles and torso in a way which transfers the energy into the end of the weapon rather than getting restricted by tight muscles. It also helps timing and intimidates the adversary. It is dine in practice so it becomes second nature.
The stress, the dejection, the absolute exhaustion and fear you experience during training and exercises is preparing the soldier for the true horrors that they will face if deployed to a war zone. War is horrific and disgusting, and no-one who experiences it is ever the same afterwards. Mentally and physically preparing soldiers to push through hell, and do anything necessary to survive and still be standing at the other side is the epitome of a good training staff and well prepared and able soldiers and Regiments. The training may appear harsh, or mean, or tough, but war is a thousand times more difficult. Sadly, the British Army and many military personnel have faced such warfare almost constantly, even when the World is supposedly at peace. Those willing to put on the uniform and stand on the line, ready to make the ultimate sacrifice, are absolutely hero's to me and worthy of the utmost respect.
We might be a small island but the British special are some of if not literally the best in the world. They've been doing this
the british were the first in the world to initiate this type of training then taught others!!
Actually it was the Germans who first had paratroopers in ww2. They were very effective. Churchill saw this and tasked the army high command to train a similar British elite corp of paratroopers. He himself had been in the army as a young officer.
Serving your country is the most noble thing you can do, others may disagree of course but this was my calling as a 16 year old, leaving school and joining the army for me was incredibly motivating and patriotic, We once did a summer camp with the Paras, those guys are crazy! me and a mate once got into a fight in a nightclub with a load of guys, my mate had been drawing circles with his finger on this girls back and i guess her boyfriend and his mates didn't like it lol, i thought we were going to have the crap beaten out of us when a hand landed on my shoulder from behind, thinking there would be a blow to follow i turned around only to be greeted by a smiling face i recognised from that summer camp, he pointed to the bar and there was about 16 Paras there all laughing, yes a big fight started, tables chairs glasses bottles were flying everywhere! the club was battling lol , i walked out of there without a scratch and with a gang of happy Paras following we went for a curry :)
The Paras won distinction during the Second World War, parachuting into enemy lines and securing bridges and roads for the advancement of the troops that where landing on the beaches at Normandy. They along with the Royal Marines Commandos are some of the best trained fighting soldiers in the World.
To be a good soldier you need the right mentality, very few members of the population have it and certainly won´t understand it. To be in a first strike force you have to be one of the best ordinary soldiers just to get selected. They are people you want ON your side not against it. "P" company is among the hardest training regimens in the world.
The question of the bayonet is one asked by people who have never looked at conflict. There are instances even in modern warfare like Afghanistan where patrols had been pinned down and rescue was still a long way away and the patrol was down to it’s last few rounds so the order to fix bayonets way given. It’s not an order taken lightly and it certainly is not regular or a first or second point of command it’s a last resort. It’s basically saying I know if I surrender you will kill me anyway so If im going to clock out I’m going to take as many of you with me as I can and any that do survive I want to scare the living hell out of that if they see my comrades they know what we will do when pushed. The problem is that we have so many eyes now starting to look in on things until recently they had no access to unless they was a part of it. Of course then people form opinions based on a snapshot of information and as more people agree “who also only have that snapshot” unnecessary questions are asked for no good reason. The bayonet is a tool of warfare but in a reality with no restart like in films video games and books you must use what is necessary. If the answer to the question you mentioned was to take it away and you was pinned down with no ammunition left and the knowledge that if you are caught you will be executed would you just roll over or would you want to do what little you can do…?. It might seem barbaric but war is barbaric…
Interestingly the British Army considered giving up the Bayonet, however the Falklands War changed minds!
The real reason the British Army still values - and uses - the bayonet, is that is has been proven, in combat, time and time again, that once troops have been forced to take cover from fire, even if they are themselves returning fire, it becomes extremely difficult to get that body of men to advance again. The very effect of "fix bayonets" as a command causes a change in that mindset, allowing them to close with the enemy and kill them. No matter the professionalism or training or "hardness" of the opposing troops, few will stand against a determined bayonet-charge.
@@Fidd88-mc4sz the command for fix bayonets will not be given if they still have ammunition. Although you can fire with a bayonet on most rifles it’s not advisable as it makes them incredibly inaccurate. Your explanation is very rousing but it’s just purely as a last option. There is nothing as deadly as a dead man walking and if you have ammunition you are still in the fight but if you are surrounded by people who don’t take prisoners and have no rounds left you are a dead man walking you can still take some out and leave a impact on any that survive. The modern day bayonet charge would be of the same ilk as the charge of the light brigade in the Crimean war it was a folly charge but it scared so many enemy that the already at the time scary British army became the boogie men of the battle field. 👍🏻
@@fubarghost13akawoz44I disagree. The issue is not whether or not you have ammunition left to fire, but whether you can stay where you are, (eg are you under artillery or mortar-fire that will assuredly attrite you if you remain where you are) or if your current position is vulnerable to counter-attack. The point of fixing bayonets is to get the troops moving forwards despite incoming fire, where ordinarily the troops would take, and remain, in cover. It's a question of balancing the short-term risk of advancing into enemy-fire against the medium-term risk of remaining where you are in a (usually) disadvantageous position.
I utterly reject your assertion that this is "folly" or an analogue of the charge of the Light Brigade. As recently as the latest war in Afghanistan, solo, or squad/platoon level bayonet-charges were successfully used to break an enemy's resolve to remain in a position where they were causing casualties, and it did so because it's a terrifying thing to face. It remains a highly effective method of closing with, and killing the enemy if he remains, or causing him to flee.
It is of course, a fine-judgement as to if, and when, it is ordered, as self-evidently, there is great risk attached of high casualties. Conversely, using it in a timely fashion can save casualties, and allow an infantry officer or NCO to change a situation where they're taking casualties remaining in a position "gone to ground", without being dependent on having tank or air-support. So I fear we must disagree..
@@Fidd88-mc4sz I don’t think you read the original comment you commented on as I stated about the bayonets being used in Afghanistan so your statement I’m sure you put to educate me didn’t work and it’s not a matter of accepting or rejecting it’s a matter of fact this is how the British military work… it’s not 1945 or 1917 we are not marching head long in to artillery barrages we use things like fire and manoeuvre and if you think the charge of the light brigade was not folly you have not looked in to it and obviously have no idea what happened… im talking from a lifetime of learning military history and tactics “not from video games or movies” but real world experience. I’m sorry but you are wrong if it was as regular as your explanation says 80%+ of the Falklands we would have seen bayonets fixed 85-90% of the Korean War as well so it is a nonsense in the Korean War men we’re throwing grenades and glass bottles rather than fixing bayonets… your explanation might have been somewhat true for ww2 but is more akin to ww1 so I’m sorry if this upsets you but again facts are facts if you don’t believe this there are plenty of British military tactics and reference books available.
Bayonettes were fixed and used during a charge in combat in afghanistan. They never even took any casualties during the charge. I guess theres a lot to be said for the intimidation factor. A trembling enemy might miss his shot, hence the scrraming and the war faces. 😉
what makes the grass grow? "BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD"! Gives me goosebumps every time, love our forces! Why wouldn't we need these things? the world is how it is.
There is the parachute regiment, but there are also other regiments that have affiliations to the paras, the Royal Artillary, the Guards parachute platoon, amongst some. Although they do parachute training, they no longer drop into conflicts. If they need to arrive by air, it is usually abseiling from a helicopter.
As an addition to this good information you can spot the others by their use of the maroon berret but alternative cap badges. The guards, for example will have a blue red blue flash on their berret behind their cap badges
Hey :) Paras are tough buggers :D
The Argentinians argued about that until they noticed there was no one left to talk to.
Paras operate in stealth…so yes, the bayonets are silent, where as shots fired will alert the enemy…
If you are outnumbered to such a great degree, you better be real good with a silent way of killing
The bayonet charge at an enemy position will terrify the enemy. If you see the examples I posted earlier and look up those battles it was to break the enemy and get our soldiers out of a possible bigger problem. 1982/2004/2006 Bayonet attacks on the enemy.
A large part of this is bs. The Bayonet and it's training isn't about stealth (as you can see from the exercise).. it's application of controlled aggression and you don't see the two day run up to this where they are getting thrashed.
All that stealth rubbish you're chatting is bonkers.
The paras don't operate in stealth. They bring aggression towards the enemy, swiftly and fast.
The bayonet is not designed to instantly kill. It’s designed to open a gaping wound that doesn’t close, thus making the enemy bleed to death. That’s why its aimed at the throat or heart.
Seen this video and part 2 as well.
Growing up in a military family, and having my great grandfather serve in both WW! and WW2, grandparents in WW2, and several family members in Vietnam (all active combat), I can honestly say I am grateful for the military service. We live relatively peacefully because good men and women laid down their lives for us. The communiites in which I have lived would be very different places otherwise.
Those who survive these horrors often do so without support for the wounds, both physical and mental and some were even spat on and jeered at.
Loads or respect for this video, thanks JPS.
Yes I served in 7 PARA RHA, royal Horse artillery, 80s through into the 90s.
Did you do p company.? 😊
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I've known several paras and Royal marines and they were very decent men, but huge and scary. I'm glad they are on our side.
The point of aggression training is to take an ordinary person and then open them up and allow them to be aggressive but what you do not see is that as a front line soldier your aggression has to have an 'On/Off' switch. The young man complained about 'not being able to run' and that shows two forms of weakness: a physical lack of fitness and a lack of mental toughness. The paras shout at you and push you to breaking point and beyond and claim that their training is the hardest and it probably is in the army. On the other hand basic training for The Royal Marines is 43 weeks with the training aimed at creating a marine who is mentally tough and who will win through in any challenge because that is his mindset. Paras have a different duty and they are dropped close to the enemy with the intention of overwhelming anyone in their way and so aggression is everything.
If you look at aggression in a wider context, the British Isles have been in conflict either with ourselves or with external foes for at least 3,000 years. Conflict is part of our nature, part of our humour, part of the sports that are popular, part of the odd traditions that we take part in. We are very good at conflict.
As to me I served in The Queen's Royal Irish Hussars on Chieftain tanks and we spent as much time being tank crewmen as we did being infantry. I served for 12 years and that was 40 years ago.
regarding your question on bayonets, the UK armed forces have had bayonet kills in pretty much every war they've been in
both of my dads cousin were in the parachute regiment and served in the falklnads war, one of them never came back.
Having served for 22 Years in the Army, there is a lot of Regimental Pride for each of the Cap Badges, but my Proudest moment of my Army Career was the Gulf War, also known as the Forgotten War in the UK, it was the largest Coalition of Armed Forces since the Second World War and where we all were together for the right reasons. Basic Training is pretty much the same for whatever Cap Badge you are joining, though the Infantry / Parachute regiments are more intensive, but they have no other trades or skills. Though it is true the Infantry and Parachute regiments are usually the first ones in, they are not alone and have support troops within the regiments, as well support units deploy with them. It is a matter of pride to complete you basic training and yes there is what people think too much swearing and individual beratement, but your job is going to war and you can't just ask the enemy to be nicer. The soldier's job is to complete the mission and come alive, those instructors, regardless of how hard you think they are, are only arming the soldier with the skills to complete the mission.
Joel, I am sure the US army has similar training. There are lots of issues about the lack of personnel in the UK armed services. I agree with you about war. There are a lot of other British Armed Services branches and units you could check out for your content production. Dominic
In a chapter of the 'All Creatures Great and Small' books (autobiographical stories of a Yorkshire vet in the 1930s, all filmed) James Herriot describes his conscription and army training at the start of WW2. His worries about being a bit unfit and overweight were soon countered by his army training instructor who told him 'Don't worry, we'll soon get that fat off you!' Which they did in a matter of weeks with gruelling long distance route matches in full kit through the hills of Northern England.
I mean the British Army has successfully used the bayonet charge in every major conflict since their inception: the Falklands, Iraq, Afghanistan. Plus, it's a great way to install core aggression in new recruits who may not be natural born killers.
I have to agree with you about the screaming, Joel. There's such a thing as controlled aggression. What does it matter if I can kill the enemy without making a sound?
That said, great video, para training is definitely not for me. There's no way I could possibly pass that!
I’ve seen a few programmes like this in UK. It’s tough to watch... some of the recruits are sometimes dying on their feet from exhaustion. Lots don’t make it through, as it’s so gruelling. The ones that do, my word, they are so very proud and quite rightly so. No one likes war, but it’s is comforting to know our lads are, after all that hard to watch training are fighting to protect.
"Freedom isn't free"
The futility of war. Necessary? Probably as everyone wants to be right. Yes it takes bravery to do what they are told to do. I get the training to desensitise soldiers to violence and death but this is just PTSD waiting to happen for many.
And sadly including suicide 😢
Bayonets are still used but not often. The last I know of was the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment in Afghanistan 2011 but it's possible they've been used since. Oh, and the Marines might have some to say about who's the best.
Right a couple of things
You mentioned your Navy Seals who I hold great respect for but a bit of British history for you
In the 600 when the Vikings were taking over all of Britain , they’d defeated Scotland and Ireland and were beating England. The king knew he was getting out numbered and got some of his men together and they went out. They’d hide in trees etc and wait until a small group of Vikings came along and ambush them They did this many many times as the Vikings so sure of their strength etc sent patrols out looking for the last patrol and so on
However, they eventually came to the edge of a deep river. From their hiding place they could see dozens of Vikings had made camp at the other side of the river
Now as well as being very very long the river only had one bridge to cross it. It was very narrow meaning only one man’s width so they’d have to go in a line. Of course they’d be slaughtered by the Viking trying to cross
Now amongst the men fighting with the king we’re a group of WELSH men
They could speak no English at all just welsh. Communication was a no no but by pointing to the reason why they stopped they got the message
Just after darkness the King and the rest looked on in surprise as each welsh man stood up, put daggers in their mouths and walked very quietly into and UNDER the water getting out the other side totally taking the Vikings by surprise
Today the Navy seals and the SAS are taught this way of combat !!! Something being Welsh I’m
Very proud of
Also I follow a channel about Mavy seals and SAS etc
One famous Navy seal who served with the elite forces of France etc was asked who were the best he’d fought with. He said they were all good all well trained excellent at their jobs but he chose the SAS. He said funny story
SAS. Best blokes you could ever meet give you the shirt off their backs and had your backs friendly up for a laugh I loved the guys. Then I made a slight error. We were all laughing joking cracking jokes and I made what I thought was a very mild joke about the Queen not even anything offensive
Boom. Atmosphere changes immediately and I’m told to take it back not to say fuck all about our Queen and he swore to god they were ready to take their kits off and beat the shit out of him. He apologised and back to normal but he never joked about her again
Also they were at a “operation together “. Navy seals wrote on their doors. Second to none
Laughed going to breakfast next morning on the doors of the SAS was written NONE
You say about bayonets. Yes they are needed. Many many soldiers have run out of bullets and had to use bayonet my late father being one of them
If you’re at war and run out of bullets and an enemy comes running at you then you use the bayonet simple
Also the video you uploaded is just a bit. If you want look for more of it
It shows where they are put into two teams against each other and have to box REALLY box full on
I live not far from the Brecon Beacons where they all go training
There have actually been a few deaths on the Beacons because of the rigorous training
Sorry if I’m rambled on but you seem to love the UK and wanted to share a bit with you ❤
My Grandad was in the parachute regiment when it first started up. I have his medals. He was landed & captured at Arnhem.
History has taught us that there will always be bullies. Those that would attempt to intimidate us by force. We must be able to wave a bigger stick to remain free. That's why the free need a strong powerful military.
The trouble with "I don't know" is at some point someone else will think they do and won't be asking about opinions. If it's valued, it needs protecting. It's always been that way with people through the centuries no matter what we'd prefer and it won't change. God bless our forces.
The reason we are called JOE its not a general name its an acronym for Joined On Enlistment its an amazing reg and im proud to have served! Best memories of my life in p coy Id do it all again tomorrow even with my f*cked up knee! Brothers forever!
As an Ex British Infantry Soldier, I'll say you'll always need men to fix bayonets and finish the job personally, that's why that particular part of training looks so rough and is so loud, we get beasted to the point of mental and physical exhaustion before you even get to the stabby part, and thats why the aggression is through the roof, its because it has to be that way to do that particular job.
i was in the parashoot regiment 10 years then went to Hereford
The thing about the UK is we never had the biggest army but we have quality over quantity, i read a book wrote by an SAS vet last month and he said 'id rarther have 1 SAS soldier than 100 of any other soldier on the planet'. Weve litrally been moulded by 1000s of years of war and invasions from romans to vikings to napolion and the list goes on and on. And as far as navy seal training compaired to SAS or royal commando training, a few years ago they swapped and the group of 30+ seals couldnt do the SAS training everyone of them failed, all the SAS passed the seal training.
Glad you have a balanced view and not just that stereotype of an American loving war regardless of the reasons 😂 respect the lads and lasses who are brave enough to protect us when needed, don’t always respect the reason they’re sent somewhere by their governments
Big Respect to the U.K. armed forces . Any body who jumps out of an aircraft when there is nothing wrong with it is mad and double mad when they jump out an aircraft to fight.
A mate of mine at work was in 2 para based in Colchester as are 3 para. He came out after 4 yrs, he was training in Africa in his 4th year, in the bush and was getting torn up by acacia thorns day after day. He said too me, 'i suddenly thought, i really don't want to do this any longer', so he left. he is now 33.
People that you would want on your side
Imagine if everyone realised that as humans we’re all facing the same stuff, and differences could be dealt with in a civilised way. No wars, no need for so much carnage, the money we could use for other purposes. Wouldn’t that be great. Until then I appreciate our servicemen and women very highly.
Many people go into the military for many reasons but I find most for roles on the frontline go in to find something, whatever that something is, they always seem to say they found family. Just my perspective from working with ex forces in the workplace
They call them Joe, as in, Joe Blogs.
Plus when you run out of bullets better to have bayonet than nothing.
Plus all SF training is modeled after the British SAS training.
I served with the Paras as attached non Para badge, I wasn't Para trained when I joined their P Coy (training Company for non Para badges soldiers) I was part of their logistics arms. Having got to know and worked with P Coy staff, they tried their hardest for me to take the Para course, I refused as I knew they would give me an even harder time. The main reason they wanted me to join them, as my free time hobbies were Free Fall Parachuting, country skiing, Sub Aqu Diving and I was at the time the youngest Unit Expedition Leader in the British Army. Had I taked the course I would have been stuck with the Paras for the rest of my military life. That wasn't for me, great lads and execellent fighters, but their lifestyle and mentality outlook wasn't for me. Instead I advanced my hobbies to Instructor levels, taking many soldiers including Paras to some of the world's remote and isolated places in the world.
There is a reason why 95% of SAS are Parachute Regiment and is not comparable to any U.S soldiers as the training Paras get is way beyond what americans get its the same with Royal Marines who make up 95% of the SBS these units are the best units by far in the world
There's a lot but not 95% I would say about 65%
No where near 95% of SAS are PARAS. Majority of the SAS is actually guards, with a huge chunk being both PARAS and Bootnecks (Marines). 60% of all UKSF units combined are actually bootnecks.
@@rcm8450 I'm ex Scots guards and a few of our lads went in from battalion when I was in.
@@rcm8450 it was guards officers who actually formed the SAS in the desert, David Sterling was an officer in the Scots guards and most of the recruits came from the guards, G squadron today is all household division.
@@rcm8450 Why is it 95% of ex SAS you see on tv are Para's 🤷🏼♂️
You should do a video on the Danish Frogman Corps.
The paras are Britain's shock troops. They go in first do the business and soften up the enemy for the rest. Their training is the hardest outside of special forces . And a lot of paras go on to join special forces. Im ex military and I remember the paras from my northern Ireland days. They were hated absolutely hated by the locals because they were tougher than another else and took no shit.
Bayonet training is gruelling and unless you have experienced it words really cant describe the space it places you in, and first time round it takes a while to switch that off. But as even conflicts of today have shown it is still a needed skill, a Para in Afghanistan was awarded the VC for his heroic bayonet charge in a field to help i think 2 injured muckers but may be wrong on that. Had the honour to train with these guys up north and if a Para or Gurkha was with you, you knew all was going to be ok and would jump in the thick of it with them
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN USA AND UK WE DO NOT HAVE TO BRAG. AND WE LEAVE BY THE FRONT NOT BY THE BACK DOOR.
Check out the history of the Highland regiments.
America's Delta force was modeled off the SAS from what I remember
Just to let people know.....
Right before that bayonet training exercise you have to run an obstacle course and often have to run about a mile or so in full kit leaving you exhausted by the time you actually start stabbing the dummies.....
That's why the guys were not very motivated in the video!
Bayonets make more sense on a longer rifle where you can get good reach, as opposed to on a bullpup rifle like the British Army uses where the whole point is to shorten the weapon and bring the centre of weight back towards the body for ease of use in CQB etc. Bayonets are a weapon of last resort, and in general, if they do have to use it, something's gone wrong in letting the enemy get that close where firepower advantages are done away with and the attrition ratio is going to tend towards 1:1. But the point of the training is to build up aggression as a general requirement of soldiering, and as an index of testosterone, in physiological terms, which helps build muscle and grow the body and make men faster, more decisive etc.
The politics of where they end up going and who they end up killing is above their pay grade, strictly speaking, although as with every imperialist military, some moral and ideological flexibility is required. It's a dirty job, and whether it has to be done is something we're supposed to determine as voters, although the decions tend to get made behind closed doors on the basis of corporate profits and the financial incentives of policymakers.
Great video as always but you look much better clean shaven instead of hiding behind the tache and goatee 😘... still loving the channel as always. Just waiting for you to go really blow up. You've got a solid consistent video format and have transatlantic, if not wider, appeal.
I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but, by God, they frighten me.
Duke of Wellington ( one if Britain's greatest generals)
Scottish regiments are famous for their use of the bayonet.
Interesting video Joel. I think often war creates more problems than it solves. It also devalues human lives. I think war is an overused method of resolving disputes. In some cases it may be the only option, especially if it involves defending your country. It’s a difficult situation. I personally wouldn’t want to kill anyone in war because the enemy is just another person like yourself who is only there to kill you because they are ordered to. Deep down we are all one.
Try watching bad lads army. It was a series about life in the training in the 1950/60s' era. You may know it as national service. My dad did it as did most men of his age, some are celebrities now. I also know a corpral in the paras during the troubles.
All those future Tesco Security Guards, and not just ordinary security guards, but bad security guards.
02:42 No disrespect to the Lad, But Para training is not the hardest training you can do. Royal Marines training is. People who have done both Para P-Coy and RM Commando Tests training. Such as ex-SAS Phil Campion and Ant Middleton. Have stated that RM training is the harder of the 2. RM training is just as physically tough as Para training, but crucially, it's longer than Para training and requires more independent brain work and thinking to complete than Para training does.
Hence why, RM training produces a better, more individually independent-thinking soldier than Para training does, because the RM want independent-thinking soldiers. Whereas Para training is more geared towards producing collective soldiers that wait for and follow orders rather than operating independently because that's what the Paras want.
RM is also a better, more mature and more skilled Unit than the Paras. The Para's just do airborne and conventional environment infantry. The RM do airborne, amphibious, mountain, arctic, jungle and conventional infantry.
Which one have you done?
Very familiar from my years with light and mechanized infantry, but not from jumping out of a perfectly good aircraft. Brit Paras have a well-earned reputation. Bayonet fighting and sharpened shovels for clearing trench systems is real. No second place winners and no participation ribbons. This video is of normal infantry training, which should look very familiar to Aussie, Brit, Canuck, and Kiwi soldiers.
The last Bayonet Charge of the British Army was in 2011 in Afghanistan.
Worth remembering that the British Army has a much better history with them than the US Army.
I never condone war / violence..
But when the occasion arises we must do what’s necessary to protect our state of being. X
The hardest training you can do?.. I don't think the lad has applied for selection for the SAS. Those guys are immense! Recommend you check them out. Huge respect however for all divisions of the Military and special forces
You can't join the main SAS from civilian life
If you liked that, you love this: It’s the recruitment add for the Royal Marine Commandoes back before the adverts became pussified. th-cam.com/video/J4zdgKK8_-E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pa-y0xF2u_AcRb2c
Hey Joel, one of my cousins is in 2 para. The para's are tough soldiers.
The Royal Marines & the Para's are the two toughest fighting regiments in the British Forces both respect each other there's a lot of rivalry between the two Regiments. Regards the U.S Marine cap badge and the Royal marine cap badge the RMC have the Western hemisphere & the USMC have the Eastern Hemisphere. The Para's have wings but their Regimental badge is Pegasus the winged horse from Greek Mythology. Not sure if USMC could actually pass either course said with respect. Besides there are better regiments in the U.S. 10th Mountain Brigade and the Rangers. As far as bayonets are concerned a Scots Guards officer stated after the Falklands war "I don't care how much technology you have the last twenty yards is down to the bayonet" and he had been shot in the head.
This bayonet training isn’t unique to the paras. This is generic training for all British infantry. It’s what we all do.
Hey joel now that you mention tv shows, i recommend you watch family guy british jokes if your instrested in it also the war it's kinda cool and waaaayyyyyy too much fighting if u know what i mean
Unfortunately the British army is now a joke it has been so degraded by this government to only a skeleton of what it should be, we may have some of the best soldiers in the world but not nearly enough to use in a real time combat scenario
You are so right, my son is in the royal British army, tank regiment for 6yrs now REME and since that time 10,000 soldiers have left/not been recruited. If we are needed for conflict our army truly is a shell of what it was. Sir Winston Churchill must be turning in his grave! Our forces will definitely be sent to their demise and by their own government! And what would they be fighting for? Wokisim…
No not a joke, undervalued, under resourced, under appreciated, but never a joke! The British soldiers give all they have, that's no joke.
It's those in charge that are unfit for that loyalty and commitment by the few brave, honourable, and still fighting professional British military...
You should realise from Covid that a large army is not how wars are going to be fought, the threat is from biological, chemical and nuclear warfare, why else do you think we have invested so much in a new generation of nuclear missile submarines, of course the other threat is from within our own population where insurgents hide in plain site.
The army wasn't particularly well looked after by the last Labour government either Kirk. We all thought there was going to be 'peace and happiness' after the Berlin Wall came down in 1989 - no one foresaw Vladimir Putin and his fixation on rebuilding the Soviet Empire.
@@gordonsmith8899 You've got the tight time period, and the fact focus and consistency fell apart with the fall of the Soviet Union, but it's not their fault it's ours.
We sat back thinking everything was fine and let the troubles we've seen grow from minor issues into wars and conflicts. We didn't keep an eye open and assumed the Americans were doing it, but it cost too much so they just stopped. That's when everything fell apart. The top dog didn't want the responsibility or demand on resources.
The Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Yeman etc are consequences of turning off that eternal vigilance and just letting things go...
I have only ever had the pleasure of knowing one former para - and even then, not really as such until his autobiography had been published, after his death. He had been their Padre in war, but had to do the job they did too, in order to properly understand is comrades, and minister to their needs. He was therefore with them in battle, dropping out out the sky into enemy territory in near-darkness and setting up camp discreetly; and no doubt had to use his bayonet in anger, too... By the time I met him, he was an old man fighting a very different war - of homelessness, poverty and destitution in London - all while based within one of the biggest society churches in London, whose Minister he also was... Many people knew of his background, but I was not among them - I was just a traumatised teenager, struggling to get my head around this thing we call life, and my place within it. Turning up at the church one frosty morning and haven been warmed with coffee and the ever-warm and welcoming company of his colleagues, he insisted I have his coat - one of those old-fashioned, thick tweed affairs. That's the kind of man he was: generous to a fault, but practical, with it. His mission had been the same throughout all of the roles of his illustrious career - to save people from danger. Even if he did have to kill a few along the way, in order to do so. And to him, everyone was equal - it was obvious he had no favourite friends... On another occasion when he was absent, one of his colleagues amused me with the story of how he'd had a phone call the previous afternoon - inviting him to a soiree in the Dorchester Hotel, at which most of the senior members of the Royal Family including The Queen, and Prince Philip, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, Princess Margaret and the Duke and Duchess of Kent, would be present. They met quite frequently, and knew one another quite well. Ordinary people don't ascend to such social circles by accident of course - it had not been a random invitation, nor even a random clergyman chosen: No, he was a member of their friendship circle becuase he had earned his way there - the last two little initials of his title: The Very Rev. Dr. J. Fraser McLuskey, D.D., M.C., perhaps revealing the route he had taken. For out of all the thousands of British Honours that have been granted over the years, only a very small percentage have been The Military Cross.
As good as they think they are,they are kind of redundant.The last occasion when British airborne forces dropped in action and the first time after the Second World War on a battalion scale was at Suez on the 5th November 1956. This was the 3 PARA parachute assault on El Gamil airfield.
Just because they are parachute-capable doesn't mean that is their only mode of transport to the battlefield, or it makes them 'redundant'.
The role of the Paras is one of flexibility and agressive advance to contact. Parachuting-in is just another option available to them in order to do that.
It’s legit the best army on earth, not the biggest but the best for sure
Watch the SAS/SBS training, if you think this is tough!
The bayonet remains a useful tool in close-quarter combat and has been used in the Falklands War, the Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan. The use of shouting during the stabbing helps enforce the aggression required to thrust a bayonet through another human's flesh. It's also physiologically terrifying for enemies of the British to know they are likely to get rushed by what appears psychotic super soldiers coming to kill them with bayonets. It's been seen many times before the enemy will flee when met with the sight of British soldiers rushing them this way.
As for the question of do we need this? The answer is a resounding yes. Because we prefer to be civil it doesn't mean our enemies are and without these soldiers and military units we would appear weak and suffer the consequences. We can't hide from what exists in the world and when required we must meet force with our own extreme force to act as a deterrent to any would be attackers.
I'm ex Royal Navy and worked alongside both the Parachute regiment (although not directly) and Royal Marine Commandos in different jobs and these two units are the tip of the spear when it comes to regular military units. They are our elite, non special forces units who are always out front when a conflict occurs and have proven in every conflict to be some of the most effective fighting units in the world, thanks to their ethos, training and quality of leadership.
The Royal Marines however are an entirely different unit to the Parachute regiment and have a totally different ethos although are the Royal Navy equivalent of the army unit.
A great regiment an brave men.
Mind you if you think there training is bad, checkout the SAS!
I think it`s extremely important that we have the capability to defend ourselves and our partner nations and the people who do it are extremely brave however, I don't always approve of how our politicians choose to use that capability.
You should check out a 3 part documentary called (guarding the queen) it’s really good you’ll lear loads it’s also very sad
The Para's haven't been without controversy. I've read several books on the topic and it is a brutal existence. These are not my words. These are words from people who have been through the process and gone on to other units like the SAS and the Royal Marines. Both tough as nails in their own right, in some cases even more so.
But the professionalism of the latter 2 are much better. It wouldn't be uncommon as a initiation ritual of the Para to be thrown on a bed of broken glass. Recruits, not just bullied but just inhumanely degraded. Again not my words. The training isn't the problem, its the ridiculous culture around the Paras that's been a big problem.
If I had a choice between The Paratroop Regiment or Royal Marine Commandos. I'd take the royal marines every time. Again, this is all based on testimonials of people who have served with the Paras.
"Speed of a racehorse, strength of a carthorse, brains of a rocking-horse."
While I might agree with you, it's no way to talk about JPS!!! (well it made me laugh)!
Hey Joel. The Paras go back to WW2. When they were formed, on the orders of Winston Churchill, any serving soldier could volunteer to go on the Training Course and any that were successful and were Accepted, they had their personnel file stamped J.O.E which means Joined on enlistment and that's how the tradition has been carried on to today, so they call all new recruits JOE but it has nothing to do with removing identity in it's normal meaning, it just makes everyone equal.
Everyone in Britain has heard of the Paras the Red berets will get you alot of Respect in British society. As for your 2nd question No one wants war .( Except Arms dealers and the American military war industries) but we would be totally stupid to think commercial success is Paramount in keeping a country safe .
JPS, why do you ask such silliy questions such as "Do you think you have to be brave?" When you are facing a man who wants to stick his bayonet into you, and you have to face him, do you still need to question bravery? As the corporaal said, "It's either kill or be killed." In addition, there is no such thing as "Noble." You are not just fighting for your country, you are fighting for your LIFE! It takes courage; with bravery you face it; with cowardice you run away!
Absolutely have to be brave when it comes down to life or death.
The Navy Seals were modelled on Britain's SAS who are the best in the world. I think I am correct in saying that the SAS gave advice when the Navy Seals started. The SAS was started during WWII.
You're confusing the seals for delta force
I hate war. 99% of wars are unnecessary wastes of human life and resources. But I have nothing but respect and admiration for those willing to put their lives on the line to protect their country and people. PS - if you think this training is insane, you should see what the test for joining the SAS is like!
What a lot of people don't realise that whilst you have to be physically fit, you also have to be mentally robust. You can be the fittest person in the world but if you haven't got the mental capacity to push yourself to the limit, then you will fail. In regards to the bayonet. There is nothing so frightening as a man, with a murderous look on their faces, screaming at you, whilst brandishing a bayonet. It's a proven thing that most people are more frightened of getting stabbed than they are of getting shot. When you are stabbed you can look into the eyes of the person who did it, whilst they in turn are looking at you. It's a controlled aggression...not quite at the bezerker level of the Vikings of old...because they are in control. When you get shot you don't see the person who shot you, and you don't see the bullet that hits you.
In both Iraq and Afghanistan, British troops were forced to fix bayonets and charge the enemy, and every time they did it, the enemy abandoned their positions and ran for their lives. So, yes, it is a very effective method.
As to your question about war, about the military and do we need it. Let me tell you, using my 25 year British Army experience, something about humanity. It would be great if everyone got along. But humanity has NEVER got along. It's human nature to create conflict, or react to someone else creating conflict. Look at Ukraine right now. They're fighting for their very existence, just giving up is literally a death sentence, not only to the Ukrainian people, but to their culture and history. The Russians want to commit genocide in Ukraine, and any other country that can't stand up to them. Which is why it is so important to support Ukraine.
The question YOU should ask yourself is this. Are YOU willing to allow an aggressor to attack your country, steal your resources, destroy your way of life, force you to speak another language, and even worship a different God? If the answer is no you are not willing to allow that, then you can answer those questions yourself. Yes the military is necessary. Yes strong and aggressive people will always be needed to put their lives on the line to defend those who cannot defend themselves, to defend freedom and democracy. A interesting fact is that democracies never go to war with each other. They talk out their differences. Most wars are usually totalitarian dictatorships against weaker countries, and they view any country that has democracy as weak and decadent, and will try to push them. Eventually the democracies will push back hard.
There are some very scary girl guides
My grandad was a para I can confirm they are mean mfs😂 but great people