yall should understand tory started off as a battle rapper. he has the lyrical ability but like he said in the last line something like "backpack rappers dont sell no more, so better dumb it down wit it when you come around wit it." he started the singing because thats whats hot right now. but real fans now tory is a real lyricist back when he first began and he still has it.
exactly. in torys old mixtapes he actually had a very similar style to joyner. he had a lot of lyrical conscious rap but he only blew up when he started adding melodies and singing to his tracks.
im pretty sure tory had things prepared before mentioning joyner, it would be stupid not to. tory isn't better than joyner overall but i think tory got him. he got baited.
@@greyalien826 joyner mentioned him though. tory basically said he could hang with any lyricist bar for bar and then joyner called him out on that. tory didnt mention joyner first.
its actually 1-0 for tory. lucky you wasnt a diss it was just to prove he can spit bars. joyner came with the first diss and tory responded with litty again. now zeze is round 2
Alessandro Ceo If you think all Tory said was nigga, then that proves to me you don’t listen to lyrics. Tory had a ton of hard lines. I’m still rewinding that 69 threesome. Joyner dropped the ball on this one Joyner was absolute garbage in this diss. He dropped the ball. There were like 2 good lines. The rest was 85% filler. All his other lines were so cringe and corny. Check out Lost in Vegas’s reaction video where they break this down line for line. It’s pretty awful.
little do tory fans know...if that doesnt count, then that means tory took an L since he still havent responded to zeze (that diss where tory got called out for plagerism)...you dont simply not respond to that accusation lol
@ nah, he talked about him being dropped from a label, sonned him with success, the Instagram thing was relevant, the wanna be a list, his pops, flipped the trippie shot, plays on his name, not only all of this he literally mimicked his entire flow on Joyners version of Litty. Eminems Killshot aint much different and y'all ain't say shit about that.
Tory was a battle rapper. Listen to anything prior to lost cause. That man can SPIT SPIT. Lyrically, he is elite. I like y’all channel, but do your research. Give credit. Tory can lyrically go head to head with most of these elite.
Facts. Tory murdered this beat creativity, so many flows, making joyner eat his own words with the thresome shit... pff. I can say that hands down as a Joyner fan who thought there was no coming back for tory.
@NNA S I´d like to know why you think Joyner was better on the litty beat? Just your opinion or do you have things to back that up? Cuz for me Tory murdered Joyner
ur trying to tell me u dont think tory had anything prepared before mentioning joyners name? that wouldn't be logical at all. if true, then tory had time on his side, since his speedy replies made joyner rush his. tory isn't better than joyner, but i think litty was better.
Zeze has great disses but it was mixed in with 95% corny filler while litty again had slightly less good disses but it was a whole lot less corny and had less filler
Keegan Williams you're saying that on the basis of how fast Tory was rapping or how much he was saying. Tory doesn't level up to eminem. Didn't even know who he was until Joyner went at him. Tory doesn't have any lyrical value. He's decent I won't lie but Joyner has lyrical value. You need to hear the track carefully. Open or clean your ears out
I swear this whole thing is just Joyner Lucas finally networking deep into the industry and finding all these dudes who can actually rap, but he's making sure they utilize their skills. He's helping revive hip hop 👍
People always underestimating Tory rapping ability. He started off as a battle rapper but turned to more melodic rap cause that’s what’s hot right now. Listen to his older stuff like blue jay season and his new Toronto mixtape and you’ll see. Tory is an amazing rapper and in my opinion doing better than Joyner right now.
I believe with these two being main stream they brings back lyrical rap a lot mumble rappers can’t do this cause these guys aren’t beefing they sparing
Tory has always had barz, he was a battle rapper turned ghostwriter and freestyler(check his sway 5 fingers of death, for proof). Then he saw the money in the melodic mainstream and followed the money. We shouldn't be surprised that he still spitting
Its sad ppl didnt know what tory was capable of at all rap/lyrically until this little spar battle because dude can spit but at the same time he knows whats gonna get more money in his bank account and those beautiful platinum plaques so the rnb stuff the eaiser route for em but we need more of these fr had the whole hip hop fandom going crazy and everyone was in tune. Was a Great battle to watch over that week
Litty vs litty: If you base it on what was said, Tory got the W, but partly because he had the advantage of going last and even write off' Joyner's track. Even battle rappers can't do that.
ƃɐƃǝ lmao I had to double take will cops comment again cause he made me feel dumb but I'm like hell nah phew I knew the greater and less sign since kindergarten lol .
It’s funny how u lot was doubting Tory real fans of Tory know he can spit like dat come switch sides to the Tory side we ain’t taking applications b 🤷🏽♂️🔥
Damn I genuinely can't believe people are surprised... media does such a horrible job with giving narratives to rappers that people can't even do research on them anymore and actually give their music a chance. Tory is fucking dope
After "i told you" i already knew that midget Tory had the napoleon complex. He held his own and showed mad skills :) The boy spit, that's enough. I wanna see kendrick chalenged and cole too.
As joyner fan, round 2 goes to Tory. So it's 1-1. At the end of it all this was all for fun and hip hop is better that this happened.. we need more of this from other artists. Only thing that took an L in this back and forth was mumble rap but that got locked up already.
Tory is 10000% winning in my opinion. This is only round 1 though. Lucky You didn't count as a diss. He was only showcasing his lyrical capabilities in that song. Now Round 2 is here, ZeZe vs ?. I bet Tory will body Joyner in his response too. But ZeZe was cool, still not better than Tory's Litty again though.
Master Of The Craft right! People ain’t true to themselves. Joyner knows his Lane. He’s good but he knows Kdot and Cole is Elite bars. Joyner a real one for his truthfulness 💯
yall should understand tory started off as a battle rapper. he has the lyrical ability but like he said in the last line something like "backpack rappers dont sell no more, so better dumb it down wit it when you come around wit it." he started the singing because thats whats hot right now. but real fans now tory is a real lyricist back when he first began and he still has it.
exactly. in torys old mixtapes he actually had a very similar style to joyner. he had a lot of lyrical conscious rap but he only blew up when he started adding melodies and singing to his tracks.
Yep, most people don't know
im pretty sure tory had things prepared before mentioning joyner, it would be stupid not to. tory isn't better than joyner overall but i think tory got him. he got baited.
TrappinPanda they reacting like fans of joyner not looking at it unbiased. Tory killed him in litty
@@greyalien826 joyner mentioned him though. tory basically said he could hang with any lyricist bar for bar and then joyner called him out on that. tory didnt mention joyner first.
Tory gets a W
Joyner gets a W
Hip Hop get a W
Mumble Rap takes the L
💯
Cringe
Brilliant One that’s what I’m saying like these 4 songs they just dropped has more impact than all the mumble rap songs ever released lol
FAX.
Facts!!💯
One thing i noticed is whenever pops does that little hand shaking...he’s feeling the song 😂💯🔥
factssssssssssss
yup and sometimes he lies about it but the head bob never lies lol
If Tory Would’ve Baited Drake Into A Full Battle. Who Would Win?
My Money’s On Tory. 💯
He baited drake but drake knew.
Tory would have bodied drake
Drake can't even write his own shit what makes you think he can freestyle 😂😂
Tory took that man's food off his plate, both had great flow but Tory had more punches and the impersonation scheme was top notch.
Everyone is suprised that Tory can spit? Tory used to be a battle rapper....
MY DAD REACTS TO Joyner Lucas - Zeze Freestyle REACTION - th-cam.com/video/C9hv90niuEU/w-d-xo.html
Happy Thanksgiving 🙋🙋🙋🙋🗣🎤
TELL YOUR DAD DRAKE DISS TORY ON FREE SMOKE, DO NOT DISTURB, HYPE SUMMER SIXTEEN
Tory Lanez spitting bars like a lama my g 🔥🔥🔥
Jacob Alfaro llama💀
joyner got clowned lol
"im joyner lucas why did I start with this guy"
Joyner Lucas takes round 1
Tory Lanez takes round 2
its actually 1-0 for tory. lucky you wasnt a diss it was just to prove he can spit bars. joyner came with the first diss and tory responded with litty again. now zeze is round 2
Duck Duck Reacts pretty much
And joyner rapped about height and had corny punchlines. Tory had better personals that for factual, as where Joyner went with non factual personals
Alessandro Ceo If you think all Tory said was nigga, then that proves to me you don’t listen to lyrics. Tory had a ton of hard lines. I’m still rewinding that 69 threesome. Joyner dropped the ball on this one Joyner was absolute garbage in this diss. He dropped the ball. There were like 2 good lines. The rest was 85% filler. All his other lines were so cringe and corny. Check out Lost in Vegas’s reaction video where they break this down line for line. It’s pretty awful.
Alessandro Ceo mad Lyrical Rappers repeat but it makes sense so
Joyner litty freestyle vs Tory litty again
Honestly both was hard tho
That lucky you freestyle don't count ,it was just him showing that he can rap.
it was like the gunshot to start the race. I got tory with the 1st round
we just need Tory to reply to zeze
Edwin Arroyo right
Nah Tory said he considered round 1 Joyner’s Lucky You verse versus his cause in his opinion you not gonna do a song wit Eminem and not do your best
little do tory fans know...if that doesnt count, then that means tory took an L since he still havent responded to zeze (that diss where tory got called out for plagerism)...you dont simply not respond to that accusation lol
Big facts he literally said it before he dropped it people are stupid lol
Tory used to trade bars with King Los what do expect
Yeah nut king los ate his ass up, pause. Nah that shit was too gay cant paused that one.
That aint discrediting tory cus king los a GOAT
@@TheActualGod aye pause works for anything my g
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ultra Instinct Tory
“hE aN r&B sInGeR” 😂🤦🏽♂️ He was spitting before he was singing. Everybody forgets that
Tory is actually bodying Joyner right now Joyner keeps bringing up how Tory is like Drake he needs sum different like we get it Tory sings
We get it tory a copy cat
Alfredo_ Saucy he said it twice briefly once each song cmon now
Alfredo_ Saucy Fax bro ZEZE was weak just talking about the same stuff how height & how he looks like weak stuff Tory won for me
Yall stupid
No he was saying drake is better he wasn’t comparing
Y'all thought my boy was a singer. I laugh at these reactions
Rasheed Hall right!
Word, JOYNER GOT BODIED..............BY A SINGIN NIGGA
9:40 thank me later
We all know when she asked who’s was better he wanted to say Tory especially after he was talking shit at the start then he spits that fire!
Pops ain’t tryna admit it but Tory killed Joyner 😂
EXACTLY
Tory's bars were lame... He bragged 70% of the song and rhymed n**** with n**** too many times.
Word play was poor
@ Thank you sir.
@ nah, he talked about him being dropped from a label, sonned him with success, the Instagram thing was relevant, the wanna be a list, his pops, flipped the trippie shot, plays on his name, not only all of this he literally mimicked his entire flow on Joyners version of Litty. Eminems Killshot aint much different and y'all ain't say shit about that.
joeysagiao Nah. People don’t wanna admit they hopped on the Tory hype train way too quick. Respect for Tory tho he fucking killed it
Can we just get a Joyner Lucas and Tory lanez collar already god damn
*collab and that would be mad exciting tho
They def gonna do something
You got it.
This “beef” is better than real beefs and real disses
Tory was a battle rapper. Listen to anything prior to lost cause. That man can SPIT SPIT. Lyrically, he is elite. I like y’all channel, but do your research. Give credit. Tory can lyrically go head to head with most of these elite.
so true!
He's lyrical but doesn't have the swagger for a lyrical rapper
Sneferre not Eminem or kendrick or Joyner. Joyner didn't even go hard against him yet. Plus Joyner ain't a battle rapper but he still lyrically better
Dad knows Tory is better 😂 you can tell it in his face how he pauses lol on the question lol cmon dad 🤣 lets go #teamtory
NNA S the fuck is you listening to? On the little beat, he got BODIED. on lucky, he did better than Joyner. Stop yourself
Facts. Tory murdered this beat creativity, so many flows, making joyner eat his own words with the thresome shit... pff. I can say that hands down as a Joyner fan who thought there was no coming back for tory.
@NNA S I´d like to know why you think Joyner was better on the litty beat? Just your opinion or do you have things to back that up? Cuz for me Tory murdered Joyner
he got bodied on zeze bro
ur trying to tell me u dont think tory had anything prepared before mentioning joyners name? that wouldn't be logical at all. if true, then tory had time on his side, since his speedy replies made joyner rush his. tory isn't better than joyner, but i think litty was better.
IM WITH TORY YALL !
Zeze was garbage , mad corny 💀
MANI RAPS he tried lol
Deadass, shit was rushed ode
Joyner know tory cant beat him...jo he just did zeze for Fun...we all know joyner capability
MANI RAPS fr
I liked Zeze but yeah Tory won with Litty Again
So nice to hear someone bring up URL when talking about one of these diss track clashes. This man knows what’s up!
Zeze has great disses but it was mixed in with 95% corny filler while litty again had slightly less good disses but it was a whole lot less corny and had less filler
Tory got that. Even with joyner new diss he resorted to hair and tooth jokes. Tory win this battle which shocked the hell out of me lol.
JOYNER SHOULDVE KEPT ZEZE FRFR. That was probably the weakest track from this battle
Keegan Williams you're saying that on the basis of how fast Tory was rapping or how much he was saying. Tory doesn't level up to eminem. Didn't even know who he was until Joyner went at him. Tory doesn't have any lyrical value. He's decent I won't lie but Joyner has lyrical value. You need to hear the track carefully. Open or clean your ears out
@@chaiinishe7385 Zeze was so corny and I did listen to it carefully. It fucking sucked
Deadly Honestly the Litty freestyle by Tory was corny too. Dax could body both of these guys
Yeah he BODIED HIMSELF with that one.
@@chaiinishe7385 fuck all that, zeze was garbage and ya boy got bodied plain and simple. Deal with it.
Nah this was never even, Tory with the W, by a land slide. Real ones already knew T. Lanez could flow.
Tory definitely won this his disses hit way harder
Tory Won this 🔥🔥
Grim reaper Tory😂 what time you wanna get bodied!!! That's Crazy!!!
I never considered Lucas that lyrical, so this wasn't surprising that it's an actual battle and not an easy win.
Suede Component listen to Backwards by Joyner and tell me he’s not lyrical... I think Tory bodied Joyner in this round, but Joyner is lyrical as fuck
Tory Smoked that boy 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 ain’t even close Fam 😂
11:04 explains it all by pops
Tory lanez won😂
Juan Jaime no. Round 2? Yes. But litty freestyle by Joyner was better than this if u just wanna compare that song to this
Juan Jaime fr 😂😂
Most definitely
R&B dude hit hard!!!
It's 1-1 rn we need a 3rd round to see who really wins
I swear this whole thing is just Joyner Lucas finally networking deep into the industry and finding all these dudes who can actually rap, but he's making sure they utilize their skills.
He's helping revive hip hop 👍
Pops spoke too soon...Tory surprised that ass 😂😂
Tory Lanez was a battle rapper before he started singing bro
Damn your pops really reminds me of my big cousin Chuck that passed away a couple years back. Same energy, voice and mannerisms it’s crazy lowkey.
how many times he gonna say nigga :nigga:
People always underestimating Tory rapping ability. He started off as a battle rapper but turned to more melodic rap cause that’s what’s hot right now. Listen to his older stuff like blue jay season and his new Toronto mixtape and you’ll see. Tory is an amazing rapper and in my opinion doing better than Joyner right now.
The grind much respect! Stay blessed
I believe with these two being main stream they brings back lyrical rap a lot mumble rappers can’t do this cause these guys aren’t beefing they sparing
Tory won round 2 easy
vxjhhd jbddc with ease
Zeze is part two
That tory litty sounds like Django musical.
Tory has always had barz, he was a battle rapper turned ghostwriter and freestyler(check his sway 5 fingers of death, for proof). Then he saw the money in the melodic mainstream and followed the money. We shouldn't be surprised that he still spitting
Oohh shit! Joyner's real name is Gary. That explains the songcover😂😂😂
Gotta give creds to the beat...this low-key fire ..🔥🔥
First one was Tory trying to show he can rap basically it’s 1-0 Joyner “zeze freestyle” is round 2 🔥🔥
It's neck and neck for me cause Troy stepped it up hard on this one
Clearly they haven’t listened to Tory’s latest albums as it’s pretty much all rap as good as this and his story telling is amazing
What! I didn’t know u did a reaction 2 this but anyway great reaction
imagine thinking tory can't go bar for bar with joyner when you know nothing about the kid
One of the best diss tracks I've heard in awhile tbh
Tory is a beast!
Tory won to me his flow he just came in hard he’s got lyrical ability for sure no doubt
Its sad ppl didnt know what tory was capable of at all rap/lyrically until this little spar battle because dude can spit but at the same time he knows whats gonna get more money in his bank account and those beautiful platinum plaques so the rnb stuff the eaiser route for em but we need more of these fr had the whole hip hop fandom going crazy and everyone was in tune. Was a Great battle to watch over that week
the pauses between your video aint cool pls
Mayomikun Obaromi Issa reaction dum nigga
Waiting for the zeze it's too funny 😂🤣🔥🔥🔥💯🤫
MICHAEL TRUHN Joyner’s zeze freestyle was ass
No matter what Joyner brings out after this there ain’t no coming back from this remix 🔥🔥🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
tory is a nice ass niggga man... so underrated ..nigga is fire
being humble isnt a sign of “lack of confidence” lol
Tory and Joyner should be on the the xxl of 2019
Tory on the first diss was just playing around but after this diss it's obvious who is the most talented rapper Tory proved he can do both
Litty vs litty: If you base it on what was said, Tory got the W, but partly because he had the advantage of going last and even write off' Joyner's track. Even battle rappers can't do that.
they are not beefing this is just hiphop
In my opinion they both walk out of this with a fat W
Litty>lucky you
Zeze
willcop how tf you think litty again was the worst
Litty wins finally😎
ƃɐƃǝ lmao I had to double take will cops comment again cause he made me feel dumb but I'm like hell nah phew I knew the greater and less sign since kindergarten lol .
Titan2k 🤦!!
@@titan2k928 You stupid
y'all so ignorant to tory's upbringing, he started rapping hence having tory for notorious
well got Damn tory. no need to do that to him. kekekekekekekekekeke cooool ass 😂😂
It’s funny how u lot was doubting Tory real fans of Tory know he can spit like dat come switch sides to the Tory side we ain’t taking applications b 🤷🏽♂️🔥
@ 12:55 she was like "oh shit!" 😂😂😂😂😂
round 2 goes to tory
facts no one can kill tory at all he untouchable
Em would rip him a new asshole lmao
TORONTO STAND UP WE DONT GET KNOCKED DOWN
I'm fuckin wit Tory 💪💪🔥🔥
just so its out there Joyner had 990,000s before all this
And still lost
Damn I genuinely can't believe people are surprised... media does such a horrible job with giving narratives to rappers that people can't even do research on them anymore and actually give their music a chance. Tory is fucking dope
After "i told you" i already knew that midget Tory had the napoleon complex. He held his own and showed mad skills :)
The boy spit, that's enough.
I wanna see kendrick chalenged and cole too.
Tory been rapping for a min bruh, joyner is not on his lane bruh
Ok🤔🤔
Nah Joyner been doin his shit for a long ass time he just didn't blow untill I ain't racist
@@rylanbrewer2111 tory been doing this since he was 13
I agree I'm not saying anyone better than me until they prove themselves
It's not lack of confidence, it's called humility
Joyner Lucas is being humble!!
As joyner fan, round 2 goes to Tory. So it's 1-1. At the end of it all this was all for fun and hip hop is better that this happened.. we need more of this from other artists. Only thing that took an L in this back and forth was mumble rap but that got locked up already.
Pops gotta realize Tory killed it bruh😂😂
I've been waiting for this since yesterday. I checked to see if it was posted a good 20 minutes ago. How am I late?
Tory is 10000% winning in my opinion. This is only round 1 though. Lucky You didn't count as a diss. He was only showcasing his lyrical capabilities in that song.
Now Round 2 is here, ZeZe vs ?. I bet Tory will body Joyner in his response too. But ZeZe was cool, still not better than Tory's Litty again though.
Y'all need to listen to Tory Lanez old stuff. Listen to his sway in the morning freestyle.
This what rap been missing
Tory bodied him
Somehow Russ took an L from this
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
nah man stop this super dead meme.
man still getting l's lmao
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!!!😉😉😝😝🤘🤘
Its honesty I dont mind him saying kdot and Cole better than him
Master Of The Craft right! People ain’t true to themselves. Joyner knows his Lane. He’s good but he knows Kdot and Cole is Elite bars. Joyner a real one for his truthfulness 💯
People fail to realize before Tory’s singing career he was a battle rapper
this doesn't need the pauses . cant copyright mixtape somgs
Tory first Response doesn’t count it was just a showcase so Joyner put out the first real hit and Tory just killed it Tory Won In My Opinion.
Dad talks facts in the end tho
🇬🇧
They tied now. Time for round three.
Hey I like that boxing analogy