@@EDDBUD Hi Edd, I wore the Fast-r at Dublin and finished with a time of 3.30 which was a big pb for me, the comfort was supreme start to finish! If I do a marathon next year (when😁) I don't know if I'd wear these again, or buy AAAP3 because I love the TS8 for 5/10k, or go for Endo Pro 3 or VP2 as they are super light weight while Fast-r & AAAP3 are lightweight? Do you agree that Lightstrike Pro pops off the tarmac, while with Zoomx you squish in squish out and the Puma is somewhere in between. Last of all the Puma DN Elite is the lightest but only has 1mm more foam in the forefoot than the TS8, so not sure that has the stack for a marathon? Sorry to ramble but these are the questions going round in my head. Don't worry if you don't get time to answer, alternatively may make a good video as I can't be the only one that knows the exact shoe for every distance apart from the marathon - too much choice!
Hi Edd - off topic, but something you and others may find interesting. I fell in love with the Endorphin Pro 3s from my first run, and put in 80 glorious KMs the 4 weeks before Dorney Lake marathon on Sunday. I noted Meagan from BeliveInTheRun gave them a positive review, but she also didn’t think they would work for marathon distance because she found the carbon plate too aggressive, and they started to hurt from 15 miles onwards. However, I dismissed this because every other review was so glowing, and my 2 x 25k runs in them had gone so well. Guess what happened? By mile 20 the Pro 3s had destroyed my feet and calfs to the point that I couldn’t even jog, and had to walk home. I can’t explain the pain, but just know that 3hrs 35mins pace turned in to a 4:05 finish. I’m writing this just to make people aware that it may not work for them past 30k, so make sure you’ve tried going really long in them before a race. Don’t get me wrong, it’s 100% the best super-shoe I’ve ever worn (Alphafly is way too narrow & Vapor way too unstable for me beyond 5k), but I will never go beyond a half marathon in the Pro 3 ever again!!! On a side note, a review of the best non-plated marathon shoes would be amazing 🙂🤜🤛
Your comment just made me very anxious as I’m planning to use the Pro 3 for my upcoming marathon. I took them for a ~25k run and loved them but I’m tapering and won’t be able to test them with anything longer between now and race day. Did the pain come on all at once at mile 20?
@@PatrikHowreally sorry to make you anxious. It could of course just be specific to me / my running style, but the fact BelieveInTheRun mentioned the same thing made me post on here too. I reckon I stated to feel it shortly after the I passed the half marathon stage at around 23k, but I wasn’t worried as I was obviously running a bit harder than I’d run in my 2 long runs. Looking at my splits on Strava, I started getting really concerned around 28k, but I kept a decent enough pace until just after 20 miles until the pain became so bad i had to jog/walk, and then just walk. It was exactly the same issue with both feet and both calves at more or less the same time 😓
Your comments on the stability was interesting. I overpronate with my left foot and really struggle with the narrow soft heel in my Nike ZoomFly 4s. I've stayed away from 'super-shoes' because of that but maybe this or the Endorphin Pro would be worth a go! Cheers for the vids!
I am at the 270 Nile mark un my second and last pair of my TCs. They are starting to get squishy. But 270 miles is almost 2x my usual shoe milage. Stay healthy!!
The New Balance Rebel 2 has off set lacing. I think the idea is to take the pressure off the top of the foot, I’ve got Vapor fly 1 and 2 and the Rebel 2 and it works well for me .
Sounds like a great half marathon shoe. I remember wearing things like Nike LT for marathons so all these shoes that are out now have a way bigger stack than older shoes. Kind of funny that if a shoe isn't 34-50mm stack it's not a marathon shoe. Puma isn't big here, but I'd lie to try some of their racers.
It’s a great shoe. No issue on a half. Need a longer run though for marathon confirmation. Though any shoe could/could not work over the mysterious marathon.
@@EDDBUD At 44 years old I definitely enjoy the higher stack shoes now, but 15-20 years ago any shoe would do. Kind of scary I raced most of my marathons in shoes with 20mm or so stack. No way that was good for my legs. But I ran pretty fast.
It's one for the Monte Carlo Club... "I suppose I am a bit ostentatious". Looks incredible, it'll be interesting to see what distances you'll be recommending it for and where it places in the next round of 'Best Shoe for 5K/10K/Half/Full'. Glad to see you're millage is getting back up there!
Hey Edd, off topic but I've gotten curious about your opinions on electronic dance music since hearing you give d&b recommendations. I'm mainly just a big trancehead (the classic 90's and 00's style, currently particularly into the goa style but has to be pre ~2005) but appreciate some classic house and techno as well. How familiar are you with these genres?
Paul Oakenfold - The GOA Mix. I’ve owned that since Cream released a bootleg of it on CD before the later official retail release. Rinsed out my original recording on tape from The Essential Mix broadcast. Great mix and ahead of its time!
I live in New Zealand and these shoes don't seem to exist here. The Puma NZ website, plus the US and EU versions don't have them to buy at all! And then I found them on the UK site but only in sizes 8.5 or 9.5. Anyone got any recommendations for other suppliers seeing as the people that actually make the things don't seem to want to sell them?
That colourway is 🔥
Thank you Edd.
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Thanks for the shout out Edd, yes still love them and will wear them when I do Dublin Marathon 👍
Enjoy that marathon David. May use these for a 10k and see how they fair.
@@EDDBUD Hi Edd, I wore the Fast-r at Dublin and finished with a time of 3.30 which was a big pb for me, the comfort was supreme start to finish! If I do a marathon next year (when😁) I don't know if I'd wear these again, or buy AAAP3 because I love the TS8 for 5/10k, or go for Endo Pro 3 or VP2 as they are super light weight while Fast-r & AAAP3 are lightweight? Do you agree that Lightstrike Pro pops off the tarmac, while with Zoomx you squish in squish out and the Puma is somewhere in between. Last of all the Puma DN Elite is the lightest but only has 1mm more foam in the forefoot than the TS8, so not sure that has the stack for a marathon? Sorry to ramble but these are the questions going round in my head. Don't worry if you don't get time to answer, alternatively may make a good video as I can't be the only one that knows the exact shoe for every distance apart from the marathon - too much choice!
Hi Edd - off topic, but something you and others may find interesting.
I fell in love with the Endorphin Pro 3s from my first run, and put in 80 glorious KMs the 4 weeks before Dorney Lake marathon on Sunday. I noted Meagan from BeliveInTheRun gave them a positive review, but she also didn’t think they would work for marathon distance because she found the carbon plate too aggressive, and they started to hurt from 15 miles onwards. However, I dismissed this because every other review was so glowing, and my 2 x 25k runs in them had gone so well.
Guess what happened?
By mile 20 the Pro 3s had destroyed my feet and calfs to the point that I couldn’t even jog, and had to walk home. I can’t explain the pain, but just know that 3hrs 35mins pace turned in to a 4:05 finish. I’m writing this just to make people aware that it may not work for them past 30k, so make sure you’ve tried going really long in them before a race.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s 100% the best super-shoe I’ve ever worn (Alphafly is way too narrow & Vapor way too unstable for me beyond 5k), but I will never go beyond a half marathon in the Pro 3 ever again!!!
On a side note, a review of the best non-plated marathon shoes would be amazing 🙂🤜🤛
Your comment just made me very anxious as I’m planning to use the Pro 3 for my upcoming marathon. I took them for a ~25k run and loved them but I’m tapering and won’t be able to test them with anything longer between now and race day. Did the pain come on all at once at mile 20?
@@PatrikHowreally sorry to make you anxious. It could of course just be specific to me / my running style, but the fact BelieveInTheRun mentioned the same thing made me post on here too. I reckon I stated to feel it shortly after the I passed the half marathon stage at around 23k, but I wasn’t worried as I was obviously running a bit harder than I’d run in my 2 long runs. Looking at my splits on Strava, I started getting really concerned around 28k, but I kept a decent enough pace until just after 20 miles until the pain became so bad i had to jog/walk, and then just walk. It was exactly the same issue with both feet and both calves at more or less the same time 😓
Made the same mistake in endorphin pro v1 and ended up with a stress fracture of my foot.
Nicely engineered and beautiful colorway. Toss in the Brooks Glycerin we could make the Nitro Glycerin. Sorry EDD, couldn't resist. ;-)
Loving the drip in the recent videos. Very professional
It’s good to smart up. But I’m fairness it’s also warmer and still haven’t put the heating on. 👍🏼
🥳 the guy who normally comes 3rd at parkrun came 1st in this shoe, that can’t be a coincidence
It worked this time. Gremlins in the system?!
Your comments on the stability was interesting. I overpronate with my left foot and really struggle with the narrow soft heel in my Nike ZoomFly 4s. I've stayed away from 'super-shoes' because of that but maybe this or the Endorphin Pro would be worth a go! Cheers for the vids!
Try this or the tempo next%. Superb models
Love your excellent video reviews man! Glad you’re feeling better, too!
Thanks Shane. Back to top form again! 👊
I am at the 270 Nile mark un my second and last pair of my TCs. They are starting to get squishy. But 270 miles is almost 2x my usual shoe milage. Stay healthy!!
Great stuff I remember the Tc very fondly.
Got mine today love them very stable for a carbon plated shoe even at slower paces
Look after yourself young man, but glad you are nearly back to normal 👍
Thanks for fixing ed 👍 , 🤔 I see a exciting vid coming up by ed puma grip vs continental grip 👀
You bet
I can hear you! 👍😀
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The New Balance Rebel 2 has off set lacing. I think the idea is to take the pressure off the top of the foot, I’ve got Vapor fly 1 and 2 and the Rebel 2 and it works well for me .
I forgot that one. Perhaps the only one to copy the VF next% lacing
Thank you 😊
You're welcome 😊
Sounds like a great half marathon shoe. I remember wearing things like Nike LT for marathons so all these shoes that are out now have a way bigger stack than older shoes. Kind of funny that if a shoe isn't 34-50mm stack it's not a marathon shoe. Puma isn't big here, but I'd lie to try some of their racers.
It’s a great shoe. No issue on a half. Need a longer run though for marathon confirmation. Though any shoe could/could not work over the mysterious marathon.
@@EDDBUD At 44 years old I definitely enjoy the higher stack shoes now, but 15-20 years ago any shoe would do. Kind of scary I raced most of my marathons in shoes with 20mm or so stack. No way that was good for my legs. But I ran pretty fast.
The Wiggles reference triggered my PTSD
Good spot!
It's one for the Monte Carlo Club... "I suppose I am a bit ostentatious". Looks incredible, it'll be interesting to see what distances you'll be recommending it for and where it places in the next round of 'Best Shoe for 5K/10K/Half/Full'. Glad to see you're millage is getting back up there!
Lovely to be out running again. The stomach was like I had been on a beano to Margate!
Ed, you should sell re badged screwdrivers as running shoe rock removers. RRR. I only ask 10%. Just kidding.
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FAST-R NITRO ELITE or Deviate NITRO™ Elite 2 'Marathon Series' Men's Running Shoes
Different uses for different races. 10k / half for the fast-r
Hey Edd, off topic but I've gotten curious about your opinions on electronic dance music since hearing you give d&b recommendations. I'm mainly just a big trancehead (the classic 90's and 00's style, currently particularly into the goa style but has to be pre ~2005) but appreciate some classic house and techno as well. How familiar are you with these genres?
Was very into jungle and d&b thouhh did have lots of Dutch techno and even some mix master Morris at one point.
Paul Oakenfold - The GOA Mix. I’ve owned that since Cream released a bootleg of it on CD before the later official retail release. Rinsed out my original recording on tape from The Essential Mix broadcast. Great mix and ahead of its time!
Looks like your wearing these shoes on the wrong foot due to their unusual design , very impressive colourway.
Imagine how fast i could go if i wore them on the right foot?
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How much do you rate these
Are these way better than
Nike Alphafly3
I have seen your bout alphafly 3
Which one is better please let me know
ASAP
Prefer the AF3 lighter and not more nimble.
got these at plato's closet for only $20.00 !!!!!! brand new.
Can’t loose at that price! I know that store as a uk dude from Seth fowler videos
Fuck your lucky lol
Off topic for this video but I just wondered if you're going to get the Saucony Triumph 20 in for review Edd?
May pick it up down the line
Are these better than takumi sen8 for 5k and 10 k runs?
Will they last as long too?
If you want the stack yes. They make you run quick. Were the sen allows you to. Does that make sense?
I live in New Zealand and these shoes don't seem to exist here. The Puma NZ website, plus the US and EU versions don't have them to buy at all! And then I found them on the UK site but only in sizes 8.5 or 9.5. Anyone got any recommendations for other suppliers seeing as the people that actually make the things don't seem to want to sell them?
Maybe they are yet to release? Seems odd they haven’t surfaced.
Nicer!
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It is possible to run at slow paces, or it's just a waste of money?
You can but in this shoe it will feel a bit odd due to the design
@@EDDBUDAt 76,5€, cross my mind to buy them! But i gess will not work for me.
These are currently heavily discounted. Still worth it?
Absolutely if you want aggressiveness!
@@EDDBUD I hope I do. I ordered them! Haha
How did I know exactly how your voice would sound just from the thumbnail?
Not sure what you mean? Elaborate
Can we compare it with puma elite racer?
The deviate nitro elite?
I don't think I've ran 38 miles in my lifetime lol. Running is just so hard on the body I prefer riding a bike but I do love running shoes 👟
Is there a bandaid on the front of the shoe?
They come like that strangely. 👍🏼🤣
Hi(again)
2nd attempt 🥇
Reupload Edward, what's happening? Am I first though?
First one didn’t upload correctly. Seems ok now
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Not interested in the shoe. I'm here for the Wiggles content
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