ULEZ, The End of Motorcycling Freedoms?!
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- Join PetrolRevolt’s Mike in this interview with Lembit Opik and Ian Churchlow of the Motorcycle Action Group.
Former MP Lembit Öpik is renowned for his ‘full-on’ approach to all he does. Now he’s channelling his irrepressible drive to protect and promote two core passions: Liberty and Motorcycling.
There are arguably many challenges to the freedoms Motorcyclists take for granted theses days, not just the looming ban on internal combustion engines.
Measures such as ULEZ, Low traffic neighbourhoods, potential road charging, and many other tweaks to transportation policy.
Motorcycle Action Group argues that Motorcycles should be forming part of the solution to some of the modern day traffic problems.
Motorcycles emit less emissions than cars and if there were greater take up of Motorcycle journeys, the Motorcycle would help to reduce both congestion, emissions and fuel consumption.
However, motorcycles are combined with cars and do not form part of a local Council’s ‘active travel’ policy, yet worse, Motorcycles are also combined with cars in the broader decarbonisation strategy. At the same time, many argue that Electric Motorcycles in their current form, do not meet the needs of the Motorcyclist for usages such as long distance journeys.
Motorcycle Action Group campaigns on behalf of Motorcyclist’s to keep Motorcycling freedoms alive.
Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) is a volunteer led riders’ rights organisation that has been building in strength and diversity since it began in 1973. MAG campaigns to protect and promote motorcycling and the interests and rights of all riders, from learner to advanced. We celebrate biking and the freedoms and independence it provides, through our support of parties and rallies, sport and competition, touring and travel.
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MAG is not aligned to ANY political party or ideology, our independance makes it possible for politicians and officials to work with us knowing that we do not have a party-political agenda.
MAG membership is drawn from across the whole spectrum of motorcycling. Whatever you ride MAG has something for you.
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Since our humble beginnings over 40 years ago, we have matured significantly and are respected for our responsible, objective, informed contributions which enrich the political debate.
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It's all about control..... nothing to do with saving anything.....
ABSOLUTE
And money. Don't forget the money.
That much has been obvious from the start
@@TheOriginalCoda They already print the money lol
@@233kosta I think you misunderstand something; they don't print money. The BoE technically prints money, though it's really the smaller banks that 'magic it from thin-air' using fractional reserve lending amongst other things. However, the local councils absolutely do want your money, and the Elites are happy to see it happen because for them the end goal is wealth redistribution, right until we have nothing and again become slaves like we were in the middle-ages.
The motorcycle represents freedom and that is what governments don't like. That's the bottom line. We must resist with all our being and get rid of these parties that are signed up to net zero.
Most of the council that are bring road charge are labour run
Freedom…
to get a licence
to pay road tax income tax council tax fuel tax Ulez tax vat tax all while they squirrel away all their profits to off shore accounts and claim back ever penny of vat they can
Freedom is US propaganda, nothing is free
@@Kalus_Saxon Freedom is not free!!!
Terrorising the population with insanely loud pipes, creating insane amount of pollution with straight pipes, harrassing road users, reckless riding and having no regards for other road users aren't parts of freedom. Just for the insanely loud pipes, I'd say ban motorcycles for a couple of years until they learn not to terrorise others with loud exhaust noise.
I am aged 86, and I have been riding motorcycles since I was aged 15, and still do as does my (younger) wife. My wife's idea of a ride out on a nice day is usually in the region of 150 to 200 miles, making an electric bike impractical. Another problem with battery powered bikes is. To achieve a modest range, the battery is going to be heavy, and for an older or smaller person a heavy bike can represent a challenge. Apart from this, I don't bloody want one! We fought two world wars to keep our freedom, woe betide any political party who tries to take it off us!!!
There are so many people who accept all that is given to them...without ever questioning.
86! Hats off to you and your wife.
The way to get around that is to invest in a vintage bike then you are exempt from these emission laws also tax and mot exempt
@@jeffvaljean6030 ln the end, 'They' will try and restrict ICE vehicles use to parades and vintage competition use.
Well said Barrie. I thought I was doing well still riding at 72.
I live in London and I honestly feel like it's closing in on me I am starting to know what a hamster feels like in a cage slowly but surely my freedom is being stolen from me
Get ready to choose your customised capsule dwelling soon.....
@Jason King I refuse to be caged I would leave if it comes to that the people of the uk need to wake up its getting as bad as china
TIME TO ROUND THESE F UP
Flip plates
Lived in London for over 60 years. Like everywhere else it's got worse in many ways but I honestly haven't got a clue of what you're on about.
They want everyone off the roads. That’s the end-game.
Absolutely, and when the evil filth have fined and taxed us all off the road we'll have lost our right to freedom of movement as well as our bikes.. Then they'll have us exactly where they want us.. Under their complete control..
Don't pay fines, exercise your rights to freedom of movement or loose them forever.
They are not misguided they know exactly what they are doing.
I’m never going to give up my bike or other vehicle s how can these people even bring this utter nonsense down on us
We should remember that it is NOT the government's intention for us all to have electric personal transport, it is their intention for us to have NO personal transport at all - in 2021 a then Junior Government Transport Minister, Trudy Harrison, said in a talk to a car sharing charity that 'Private vehicle ownership is sooo last century'.. She went on to say 'the UK government do not see electric vehicles as the solution, they see them purely as a stop gap measure until their Autonomous Electric Vehicle Scheme comes online'.. You can read more on this policy and it's impact on our freedoms on the UK government website..
Do Not Comply. Everything they have done is because the people have 'allowed' it. Say no en mass and what can they do.
Net zero, an Impractical solution to an Imaginary problem.
Biking should be encouraged by government otherwise the green argument fails.
Young people are completely priced out of any motorised transport. Many just don't bother.
locals are fighting back against these stupid rulings.its going to get ugly
Hopefully..
Electric vehicles are the biggest joke personal transport has ever seen, you would be better using a steam engine. They are about as green as a crude oil slick in the ocean.
EV's are so dangerous, they cheap upon you without a sound, how many people do you see crossing the road whilst on there phone? At the moment they can hear cars and bikes coming but wait till everything is electric.
Keep up the good work lads ! There are more of us than them !
Do not comply! It's unlawful. You are not a prisoner to these criminals in government. Destroy there electrical devices.
I tried motorcycles out of ‘curiosity’ in 1977. Still biking now, and enjoying the social side as well. I guess I’m an old Git on an old bike, nowadays.
That joy on these gentlemen's faces as he started that bike up...thats what they coming for.
Getting your first motorcycle (moped ) felt like a revelation a dream come true my father never wanted me to have a motorcycle and swore he’d put a hammer through it if I had turned up home with one . Luckily he changed his mind when I had to run across fields every morning to get to work at the age of 16 so when he saw the logic in letting me have a moped you can’t imagine how excited I was and ever since then motorcycles have been in my blood it’s sad to see all the legislations that are ruining the joy and passion a lot of us have for these machines .
You all need to Join the Trafalgar Square protests and Action against unfair ULEZ
Indeed I was there on 18 March and I’ll be at the next one 👍
We need these events to be better publicised.
Motorbike engines make such a beautiful sound. Every one individual it's just magic. And music to my ears. Doesn't matter what it is. Glorious sound.
One of my sons passed his bike test 1st time no faults on test , he did track days with James Whitham , he went on to ride an unrestricted bike when he was 24 , he passed that test 1st time again with no faults , yet it took him 5 attempts to pass his theory test , only getting 1question wrong each time , I think the theory test is stacked against people with complicated questions & answers that can be ambiguous to say the least , cash cows , the D S A in there own literature say nothing should be made complicated to the pupil or student, that is an understatement by them by not practicing what they preach .
I failed the hazard perception part of the driving theory test. You never know when to click the mouse. Or if I clicked too many times. I hate it. Once that nonsense was out the way I passed my practical first time.
there are apps out there that you can practice on. they use the same questions the actual theory test uses and sometimes the same hazard perception clips. It really makes it ridiculously easy.
The theory is pretty straight forward. 5 attempts... that says more about your lad than the test itself.
It's good to see MAG on TH-cam, highlighting the mad electric bike era ahead of us. My only problem is, I was riding bikes in 73 when the helmet law was thrust on us without any real consultation. MAG didn't back up those jailed for exercising their freedoms. We needed a mass helmetless demo to force a government back down, but MAG appeared to me at least, talk the talk & get into bed with the tyrannical powers. (The British way apparently 😡). Florida got their way & are not now forced to wear helmets. I am not saying don't wear one, I am saying WE SHOULD HAVE THE CHOICE IN A FREE SOCIETY!!! ✊
Untill some poor sod has to scape your brains up off the road, Only an idiot would not wear a motorcycle helmet, There is only so much freedom you can reasonably expect to have.
That goes for seat belts in a car too!
It's not sensible to not use either but it definitely should be a personal choice.
It most certainly shouldn't be something that anyone should be able to prosecute & extort cash for!
This conversation needs to be had.... I read that Porche and other performance related manufacturers are pointing to eco fuels, however, that's a solution for the wealthy who can afford to pay for that type of fuel.. what about the workers?
Porsche starting to scale down it's combustion engined sports cars so they might've given up on that now.
PEVs. Essentially, riding a electric bike/scooter/unicycle/motorcycle is much more sustainable (and cheaper!) than riding a car, electric or not.
Its not so bad if you consider that those vehicles can already reach 100kph (60mph).
@@user-pq4by2rq9y all well and good but I don't want to be told what I'm to drive, I should be free to choose it or not
I do not know too many people who have two strokes in Canada other than dirt bikers. Electric is great when homes are designed to be off grid…solar charging, but that goes against profit making by corporations. Pretty simple….don’t ban petrol and gas motor bikes. Point you can not control society when society has the ability to travel anywhere and any time. Sadly the politicians we elect are working for the WEF not the citizens who elect them. What is a joke in Canada is that the government is trying to make the cycle bike cities, but the WEF forgets we can not ride bikes for 4 to 6 months of the year due to cold and snow. I don’t see our prime minister cycling to work in minus 30 with snow on the ground.
great work guys keep up the great work.
Really interesting interview. Hope this vid gets shared and reaches a wider audience.
I use bikes for commuting and I'm really upset with more and more restrictions we get as motorcyclists.
I think people in London are against us because of some cretins who cannot ride quietly, especially during night hours.
If someome's freedom consists on waking up whole street at night, we will end up on pushbikes very soon.
Need better exhausts on bikes.
Loud pipes save lives Buddy!!
@@Ardass486 Tell that to the EV guys....
@@Ardass486 Speeding and accelerating at high revs is far from savings lives.
Anyway, more and more streets are closed for motorbikes and it is thanks to people thinking like you. Your loud bikes will save a lot of people, because all bikes will be banned from roads so less accidents. I ride my bike with a stock exhaust on low revs and I don’t feel unsafe. Perhaps when you and your bike are at bullet speed, it is better for other people to hear you from far away so they can run away from your way to save their and your live.
My bike is loud so l ride accordingly at night in built up areas. The local BMW car boys with their popping on overrun and loud exhausts less so.
ULEZ has already lost me many customers at my bike mot station near the south circular
It’s about time the oil companies stepped up with synthetic fuels, this would end the CO2 argument imstantly.
There is no CO2 argument anyway. It’s plant food. Man made climate change needs to be called out for the hoax that it is.
C02 is a scam
CO2 = The *_ELIXIR_* of *_ALL LIFE on EARTH_*
All part of agenda 2030
Exactly, until folk talk about all the aspects of this Great Reset plan, the sheeple won't believe how much their whole lives will be ruined/controlled.
yes, we know that, what to do about it is the question
@@BigReptileCrew That is exactly the attitude that will send us down the toilet, you sound a part of the compliance unless you're willing to make the stand?
@@BigReptileCrew I do understand the frustration, It's like trying to wake the dead
ps, My family is totally non compliant also regarding the b/s propaganda
We can do plenty like identifying the globalists personally and remove all our services for them. They cannot function without us. Strike against them personally. When their trash is piling up and their plane won’t fly because its not serviced or fuelled and their plumbing is blocked and their power is off they will realise who really has the power. We have to start or we will definitely be screwed.
You will not be allowed electric vehicles either, do not comply.
The economic contagion happening now may well put an end to crazy government, as tax revenues collapse
All the way........
We have common law we are free to roam anywhere as long as within the law
I couldn't sit through all this, was ULEZ and motorcycles ever mentioned? I have a few early 2000 year motorcycles all low mileage and well looked after. They have valid MOTs, why should they now each need a £175 test for a ULEZ certificate and if they fail I then have to pay £12.50 each day to use them. It's just grabbing money off the motorcyclist. Yet you can drive around London all day in a 1970's 5 litre, V12, 8mpg Lamborghini and not pay a penny. Notice they're not being told to scrap them for £2000!
Respect to Lembit, wish he was still in Parliament.
'Pay to pollute' , that's all it is!
As the panel has said it has got very difficult to obtain a licence these days. I know of a lot of young people who can't get past the theory test. Some taking it as much as 6 times and then giving up. I am sure they are fixed in some way to act as a cash cow. They should be stopped
Is it any more rigorous than the car theory test? 6 times!!!
To be honest if they can't pass the theory test then they probably aren't supposed to be on the road full stop, driving and riding isn't for everyone 🤷🏻♂️
@@kevindarkstar most carried on ridding perfectly fine. Even the tutor for CBT. Mentioned they are good safe Ridders. It's time theory was taught same was as CBT.
The theory test isn’t hard, just read the Highway Code and get the DVSA theory book. A little diligence in reading those and you should sail through.
Probably because most "young" drivers have the attention span of a goldfish if it can't be compressed into a 15 second tiktok with catchy music and text to speech , it isn't going to stick.
Thanks for your great discussion on the topic of green nonsense electric cars and motorcycles, engines are the heart of vehicles they are given life and all have there own mechanical personality, this is what makes them attractive. 😊
I've got to spend £175 to prove my old bike is ulez compliant even though the tester said it will likely pass anyway, I only ride it a few days a year and emissions isn't part of the bike mot test. When it gets to 40 years old, it (magically) becomes compliant. This is an irrational attack on ordinary, simple folk and has to stop.
Great to see Lembit still involved 👍💯 he's a genuine good guy ... we need more like him
He's a Hang-glider Pilot as well - he loves freedom and don't want it stolen.
Who have thought Lembit the biker!
I’m sure we all pay enough already, to use the roads.
time to rise up and take back control we must all get together and sort out this country sooner rather than later.
I've been a MAG member for over 40 years now, there are over 1million recorded motorcycles in the UK, and only 1% of that figure are in MAG. MAG has an uphill struggle to achieve anything, all the time 99% of motorcyclists are more than happy to sponge off of those who pay £30.00 per year ( 0.08 pence a day ) It's evident that the government are not interested in motorcycling in the UK, that is until they want the £101 pot hole tax from us, then that's a different story. So do you care ??, if you do then join MAG. NO Excuses.
MAG is a toothless old man that achieves nothing but willingly takes the money of the hard of thinking !
The government is laughing at mag !
I joined a couple of months back. Don't know if MAG have leaflets to give out....Someone could drop a load at various bike nights through summer like The Raven Café at Prees Heath Shropshire hundreds turn up every Thursday night
I will join, we can't bitch and do nothing. Cheers.
While motorcyclists treat motorcycles as weekend & track day toys , no government is going to treat them as serious transport or see them as the answer to alleviating congestion . All bikers should ask all candidates in elections ,what do they intend to do for us motorcyclists & put them on the spot . I bet they don’t even give us bikers a second thought until they are voting to restrict us even further . Like the motorcycle media & insurance companies & fair weather weekend bikers ,they see motorcycles as playthings . Also if governments want to ban petrol motorcycles ,they should compensate us fully ,for all motorcycles & moneys we have invested & spent on them ,plus compo for the grief suffered at their loss & having to suffer crap alternatives like electric .
I'm 50 and want to get into biking but it's so expensive to learn. Just do a cbt and you can only ride 125cc. Make it to 500cc for older people, at least 250cc then more people will get into it like me. But they want us out of all combustion engines.
I've worked as a Blood Runner/ Medical Courier on a 600cc bike. Could not have done this job without a bike licence obviously. I was in my early 50's when I did this. While I enjoyed this, my happiest days were on my Honda 125CDT, the 125 superdream. It was simple, comfortable and took me from south london down to the coast and back on £5 worth of fuel, abit back then. The cost of doing your licence since those days has only gotten more expensive and difficult, and no doubt will only get more expensive the longer it is left to achieve. If your interested in doing your licence, do it sooner than later is cheapest. The fun you have on your bike does not depend on the capacity of the bike, to a degree, they are inverse. Running a 600cc bike was as expensive as running a small car. Not so of a 125. A 250cc bike I would like by compromise. Get yourself the book/ video from Amazon - The Police Guide to Advanced Motorcycling. Read it until you know it backwards and inside out. Police bikers do not have accidents - be one of those statistics. Watch the advanced bike riding channels on TH-cam. You''ll regret more in life what you did not do than what you did, so it is said. Buy second hand biking clothing. Don't get mugged for your life savings on buying a helmet. Get going, go today, enjoy your life and do it safely first.
I started riding in 1957 on a 1950s Cyclemaster then a 1948 350cc matchless ( had to get rid of that as 8 stone dripping wet it was too heavy for me lol.
Had vespa lambretta .Yamaha .Honda .Always had something .was on a 250 Honda ( before the dream )Finally took test in 1980 .Never really been without a Bike of some sort .Now at 81 I keep a Fat Boy just for fun .Might not use it for say 6 weeks .And then I am off for a ride. Maybe about time I gave up Bikes as 1957 to 2023 is a long time.😢
You could go the 'Direct Access' route, straight to a full license I think..
Brilliant, using a 4 cylinder 2 stroke to make ULEZ"s point for them, filling the shed with smoke. And next ladies and gentlemen, a Gardner 5LW.
The 2 stroke would likely pass the ULEZ test limit of 0.15 g/Km NOx because 2 strokes don’t produce high levels of NOx.
Also, because NOx is a function of lean running fuelling (therefore high combustion temperature), a 2T running rich produces extremely low levels NOx.
@@petrolrevolt Maybe, and l like 2 strokes, but the visible smoke cannot be denied as a perception of pollution even if the oil particulates are 'heavy' and don't hang around in the air. Which was the other commenters point, l think.
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Think we need to come out on force on bikes to stand our ground as a nation of bikers to petition against the banning of petrol vehicles. Cars too if need be. I'd be there definitely need to pass this on and get bikers together.
I had my CBR 400 Nc29 tested at Riverbank motorcycles in East London and it passed the ULEZ emissions test. My zxr 400 also passed the ULEZ emissions test. Most bikes should pass. It's the possiblity of Pay per mile using ULEZ cameras that could be the next hurdle/problem
What gets me is a youngster can pass a test say in a Honda Jazz and then theory go out and buy a super car with no restrictions, yet if they what to ride a motorcycle it’s made as difficult as possible. Just can’t see the sense in it.
How many 17 year olds have you seen driving a Ferrari? The insurance alone pretty much restricts you to a 1.2l car
@@elobiretv True, but I did say in theory!!
@@ianleaver4967 I agree with the idea though. I think they need to go back to when you could sit a test on a 125 and then get a restricted license that would automatically turn into a full license. It would at least mean 19 year olds could sit the test on bikes they own. The current rules are such a pain most people dont bother.
@@ianleaver4967 Because not hardly any youngsters have the money to buy a car that accelerates like a motorbike does. Also cars are a lot safer, you're a lot more protected and a lot more visible to others and there's way more room for error/mistakes. You can buy a cheap motorbike that will reach national speed limits in first gear in under 4 seconds. The sense is that higher powered motorbikes are dangerous and require a certain level of maturity and skill around them.
Lembit Opik talking about 2 strokes is fantastic and when he was wafting the smoke up to his face and me knowing that he had hung out the back of a Cheaky Girl, brings out a new respect for him 🤷🏻♂️
The passion for 2 strokes and hearing him talking about his RS 100
and some of the things that he got up to with it was awesome 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Again I think the legality of all this ULEZ nonsense needs to be questioned! When a car or motorcycle is three years old it has to pass a test known as the MOT. Part of this test is to see if your vehicle is compliant in its emissions to be used on the roads in this Country! I think this ULEZ is another form of tax used by Councils that are overstepping their remit as a cash cow to rip of the general public!!
Absolutely. If your vehicle passes it's test no matter what it is it should be allowed anywhere on the King's highway.
The legality of ULEZ is fine, its been through courts and all sorts. The MOT can only test the vehicle to the standards of its generation. Older vehicles are tested to different emission standards because otherwise, they would all fail. The same with lights and seatbelts for example. Regardless, MOT emissions on petrol vehicles doesn't check for the carcinogenic gases, it checks oxygen levels and carbon monoxide to make sure your engine is running properly (not too rich/lean, not misfiring). ULEZ is there to reduce the amount of carcinogenic gases in the air in city centres because its making people poorly, its not a cash cow... believe it or not its for your own good. ULEZ wont affect the huge majority of bike riders, most motorbikes are newer than 2003.
I'm from the continent and I ride and drive old vehicles and I love it. But... times are, as always, changing. If you read government plans from all over the western world it is not just about moving to EVs, it is about minimizing personal transport. The plan is not to swap ICE for EV 1 on 1. That is the most important aspect. And, let's be honest, it is mostly old folks (I'm in my 70s) who are against this. Personally I'm not against EVs but they lack character. Then again if I need to go electric to be able to ride/drive, so be it. After all, the steam engine also died... And you can always keep an ICE bike as a true historic vehicle...
I’m a petrol head, been into bikes and cars since 14yrs old. Love my little collection of bikes..
You paint the wrong picture of wealthy individuals with amazing workshops and lots of money. We’re working on the street, in lock ups, round our mates to keep our bikes on the road, on a megre income, relying on our intelligence and self reliance to keep our bikes on the road
I agree. Doing trackdays and riding across Europe is less representative of motorcyclists than an Ubereats deliverer. However, it's our only chance. Very wealthy people have a lot of influence. Loopholes are created for their benefit, not for the common man. I don't envisage a situation in the near future which will prevent wealthy Arabs taking supercars to London to show off. Nor taking away the Testarossa or Countach of someone in the House of Lords. Riding the coat tails of this phenomenon is a strategy.
Politicians are snakes.
I am a retired corporate futurist. The environment (sustainability to future mobilty) was one of my consultancy areas. Objective info is crucial to provide insight into a highly probable future. Until politics took over, environmental impact forecasting was only possible for small 'closed loop' technological processes. But soon it became clear that all 'open&international' processes are politically skewed. CO2 emissions, energy consumption related to their impact are mere models with large variances in their tolerances, impossible to correlate directly to one cause&effect. No (scientific) consensus can be provided which processes are best to prioritize. Just assuming 'recreational use of fossil fuel' is a(or the) bad ass, is admitting incompetence as well as short sightness into solving poluting factors detrimental to the environment. The environment is used as 'the threat' to restrict 'ordinary humans' in two of their fundamental freedoms; mobility & information. Vehicle-less cities is oke but don't bring ill construed arguments, like EVs, clean air zoning etc. into the equations.
Plus the climate crisis nonsense, with the focus on anthropogenic climate warming, ignores long cycle historic climate warming and cooling, which clearly wasn't linked to man made emissions.
Turn your bikes and cars into company owned property.
One aspect of the ICE that has not been looked into in any serious way is the use of the Geet system to give vastly improved MPG in motorbikes! The Geet system is a way of converting the liquid fuel into a gaseous/plasma that then produces a fuller explosion and more effective use of the fuel! It was developed by Paul Pantone in the USA 20+ years ago! The petrol companies spent millions on getting him banned and imprisoned as it would effect their profits! If you could get up to 200 mpg that would cut emissions by over 200%! the kit is available as a set of plans from the internet at a very small fee! As are a number of TH-cam videos!
Great discussion & aged 72 and a motorcyclist everything that was said I agree with. I remember getting into a lively debate with someone at the TT about electric bikes. He was going on about got to move with the times etc etc and the advancement in technology . And I just said Classic bikes great noises modern bikes extremely fast electric bikes nothing and although I was referring to racing bikes to me it can also apply to road bikes. Honestly stand at the road side at the TT and watch the Zero bikes come past and your be bored to death. I should add however that I am sure that they aren't that easy to ride so fair play to the riders. Sorry but to me this is political they don't want the ordinary working person to be able to afford a car motorbike and they want to take us back to the 50s. Great channel and you now have another Sub.
My Honda scooter 2004 is not ULEZ complaint I am devastated
www.visordown.com/news/general/mag-offers-no-pass-no-fee-emissions-test-ulez-exemption
Have you tried this route to become compliant?
I love going to the BIKE SHED Shoreditch, fantastic place, these places could suffer as a result of ULEZ, and places like Chelsea Bridge are long gone. 😮😮
Arguably, the Bike Shed and vloggers accelerated anti-ICE policy. Too open, wrong time and place. Bad modifications and rebuilds, and open pipes. Under the noses of champagne socialists as well.
Government should be doing a job for us not a job on us
Some are changing to Escooters which are lots of fun, and here's the problem.
Like car drivers many motorcyclists just thought it was a good idea to control the use of these escooters and other alternative forms of transport, now you and car drivers have given their consent to govt to control forms of transport to the extent of banning them, they have decided it's now the turn of cars and motorcycles, so really you have given govt the go ahead to do this.
I have been riding motorcycle all my life pretty much, and I was shocked that quite a lot motorcycle riders agreed that escooters should be controlled the way they were, simply because I could see where it would lead, and now it has started to come.
I will say it again.........civil peaceful disobedience don't pay nothing tell them to get stuffed
It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.
I was only talking to someone on Saturday at the Harley-Davidson dealership in Manchester.
I was saying exactly that about how the government have made it really difficult for youngsters to pass their test and that i thought it was being done to get us off the road, they don't want us to have the freedom to move about.
Events in France, Holland & Germany might be showing the way. This might be a very small part of a wider movement.
Mass insanity pandemic
Nothing better than a blast out on a motorbike! I've had 'em all. My strokers included YB100, GT250, 2 RGV 250's, an RD250LC and an RD500LC. They were amazing bikes. My forever bike is my 'Busa. Gen2 2014.
Khan will pay... regards
NSR250 clickbait got me 😂
I'm 42 and I can say the first smell I still remember to this day is the smell of my dad's rs125cc Yamaha 2 stroke motorcycle from that day I was hooked I know I was in nursery as soon as I could get a motorcycle I did I got mine just before the theory test came in same as my car I got sick so they told me I couldn't drive for a bit until I was clear it took 10 years to get it back after fighting them for 10 years they gave me back a provisional licence and told me because I past when there was no theory test I now have to sit one in have no chance and to sit my full license again on the car and bike the cost alone is a joke let alone what you have to do now to pass about 5 years ago I had 45 motorcycles stolen from me one of them was my dad's rs125 Yamaha we got 5 back and some parts of others the rs125 we just got engine and some bits frame and most other bits was gone my dad's heart was broken as he had that from the year before I was born we have been trying to get the bits but can not find anywhere my dad was at the battle of Brighton he was a rocker well still is if you ask him lol he's 76 now bike has been his life for many years I did get him a honda cm200t he most of been on it 5 times he said still not he's Yamaha on he's birthday this year in march DVLA asked him for his licence and told him he now needs to pay for a new one resit he's test he has to do the theory to its going to cost him over a thousand pounds to do it and that's just his car he live in side the ulez I have he's car as he couldn't afford it any way and he would have to get a new car or a motorcycle I'm now down to a 125cc on a CBT but can not go see him because of the ulez or it would cost me to much I did build my motorcycles back up again but now not worth anything iv spent thousands on getting them done parts are hard to find even if in could what do I do with them now my neighbour gave me her NTV 650 when she died of cancer as she new it would be looked after as I did when she had it all the ppl I new have and are given the motorcycles as they said it's getting to stupid with the laws and the cost I did look in to electric a 5 thousand pound motorcycle will do a 100miles at a 100 miles but will take 8 hours to charge a 60 thousand pound motorcycle will do 180 miles an hour for I think it was 200 miles and take 3 hours to charge so if I did buy the 5 thousand pound motorcycle and run the battery flat what would I do for 8 hours so really the most I could do on it is a 100 miles around trip 50 there 50 back and if I broke down in the middle of nowhere I'm not getting home if it was petrol I can walk and get some can't carry electric now can we lmao BB
Ive started on a back of a two stroke motorcycle when I was 8 It was mind blowing to go 40 kmph down the street . No helmet I just hold on to my life.
Im 42 now
What make me chuckle is the tractors, How the hell are we going farm and feed livestock & such grass eating pets? Or move goods to remote locations…
hydrogen fuelled internal combustion engine is the way to go. Toyota is the nearest to production of hydrogen engine
Check out JCB as well
@@Rhythm24inch will do, thanks
@@dylanberry5125 Harry's Farm did I peice on it 👍🏼
@@Rhythm24inch Just watched JCB engine video, lots of hope for smaller vehicles. Time to start campaigning to stop producing pointless electric cars.
@@dylanberry5125 yeah they are pointless, all I can do is not get one I guess
The fight has to be well reasoned and articulate based on fact not emotion. Tough because we’re all very emotional about our passion. I’ve just spent £175 to have an old R100R BMW ULEZ checked. A 1995 bike with 40,000 miles and passed. Just. We must all fight this latest assault on our freedom and this is a way to do it. I also spent £12.50 (non refundable) to enter the ULEZ to prove compliance. It’s all very wrong.
I live on the Wirral Peninsula and took up riding quite late in life.I was 57 when passed the test and never drove a car.Now 71 I am thinking about packing in riding.The Wirral is set to introduce 20 mph speed limits on every road that is now 30.There is zero joy at riding at 20mph.The M53 runs through the Wirral and there is talk of 50mph limits on that motorway.I only ride for pleasure...I don't ever leave my bike unattended after my beloved Aprilia Tuono 1000r was stolen a few years ago.I now ride a Speed Triple and my trusty Street Triple which I bought brand new after passing the test in 2009.I have practised riding at 20mph but it just seems ludicrous .The powers that be want to get vehicles off the road...we don't have a say in it.
Yep remember getting some gasket paper from Andrews at Smithfield, for many diy gaskets in my youth lol
Walking to the shops this week I saw a lamp post cut with what looked like an angle grinder at the bottom and on the top obviously below the ulez mulRkey. I laughed as I couldn't believe it was cut without it being heard by someone in the night
MAG are heroes and I was on the helmet run from Trafalgar Sq. All the jobsworths from ministry of transport were taking reg numbers. I wore a skidlid coz it's there to save lives and kept our heads warm and dry but I didn't agree with compulsory lids. That awful mayor doesn't care about the old ,the poor as he charges nothing for a car costing over 100k but will charge a guy on a Honda 90. It's very badly done and the rich in Chelsea tractors should pay according to value of the car. I won't vote unless it's for a party with common sense and fairness and I only voted against Brexit.
MAG should be addressing the learner laws and comparing so that 17years olds don’t have to take another series tests to progress
If you can’t attract young people onto bikes it’s over and this will be last generation of motorcyclist.
Without knew blood worrying about anything else is completely pointless.
Where was MAG when the laws changed?
Wake up and look at the average age of motorcycle riders any fool can see it’s dying.
I just replied to another comment encouraging people to join MAG, but as you say what have they done?
Maybe they're hamstrung by not having enough numbers? I don't know.
Well said Gentlemen
Scrap nothing sack the politicians
to me i have never had just a ride on a motorcycle ,Ive had adventures . I have many many great memories of each scooter or motorcycle ive had ,whether it be good or bad .
from my very first scooter a 50cc YAMAHA BOP 2 which gave me my first taste of freedom ,as a teenager only 90p to fill up . taking it on a random trip to Brighton ,and Swindon and Oxford on a bank holiday .
to my Dienpre sidecar outfit that i decided to not have delivered ,and rode it back from Hull to London ,having never been on a sidecar outfit in my life "FIRST ROUNDABOUT WAS INTERESTING"
taking in Europe for three months on a Triumph T100 , memories no one could ever eradicate .
i wouldn't have any of these memories in an electric vehicle . yes i now own an fat tyre electric bicycle , but i still have to have 3 batteries to do a fraction of the miles i used to do in a day .
i havent owned a motorcycle in a few years now ,but still hanker after another one , maybe oneday
I've ridden bikes ever since I was 16, almost exactly 40 years ago.. I hold a full bike license but I've never passed a car test so a bike is my everyday transport - Cars have their uses of course - especially family-wise - and I have driven them (on private roads officer..) but I never really saw the attraction if I'm honest and I must confess that I usually drop off to sleep after a short while in a car ! - We all know why we ride but for me I just feel a little bit more alive than doing anything else.. Our challenge is the aging population of motorcyclists, young people today are falling into the trap of the globalists and the eco-extremists because not only are they not taking up motorcycling, but larger and larger numbers are not having personal transport of any type..
Or maybe because money is tight and they can barely afford to spend 1000 pounds on getting a license, another couple of grand on a motorbike, another chunk of money on motorbike gear, insurance, having your own property/space to store it (ideally a locked garage) along side a car because when wet cold weather comes, its no fun. Its an expensive hobby to get into and times are tough.
@@gitanonumero1983 You're absolutely correct, times are hard at the moment (even harder than they were when I first posted my comment 5 months ago..) but motorcycling really doesn't have to cost a fortune..
Yes, there's lots of flashy gear out there for the kit-freaks who would have you believe that it's a waste of time buying anything less than a brand new top-end sports bike or ADV costing £20,000+, an £800 Arai helmet and a £2000 Rukka riding suit, but equally there's plenty of good, solid gear that is perfectly safe is out there at a massively lower cost.. Of course there's nothing to be done about the stupidly high cost of getting a full license, but if you do the modular version you can spread the cost over time.
Obviously if you've got a family a car would be more appropriate, but that route is also far from cheap, it can very easily cost £1000 now to pass a car test too, then there's £2000 to £4000 for an OK small car with expensive insurance on top, especially if you happen to pick the wrong car..
Of course you could start with a CBT and a good used 125CC instead and gradually save what you can afford as time passes to pay for your full test. There's no need to spend a fortune on a used Japanese 125cc, there are plenty of used bikes from the better Chinese-made brands like AJS, Mash and Herald which are fine if maintained properly and can be picked-up for £1000 or so if you shop around and cost next to nothing to run, then at least you're on the road, you've achieved personal mobility, which literally broadens your horizons immediately, you can look for a better job further afield (especially important if you don't live in a city with abundant and regular public transport) and you can still ride the bike for leisure when you're not working..
Some rural councils even operate 'Ride-to-Work' schemes where young people can take a reduced-cost CBT and even rent and insure a 125cc bike or scooter for a financially manageable monthly charge, again, you can ride the bike/scooter to work but you can usually have it for leisure purposes too if you can afford to pay a bit extra on top of the standard charge..
Damn right!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice conversation, but HOW are MAG going to hold politicians to account?
I didn't know it was that bad. my grandpa died on a motorcycle probly cuz he was drunk so I wasn't interested in getting one as an adult. But I had loads of fun as a kid on a dirt bike. I'm not a fan of electric cuz I know how toxic they are when they burn. Ive been interested in engines running on water as fuel since I heard it in a song from a band I like. I realized later that it's called hydrogen. I always figured that miles per gallon with gasoline would get better and better.
At least he died with his boots on, that's the important thing. Sorry for your loss.
🏴In Scotland, Can we do away with the Speed Limit out of town please.
Ok ,have every built up area a 20mph zone, with main arteries at 40mph. But all national speed limit roads make them limitless. This will encourage tourism from Europe. And vehicles are more than 60% better than when those old limits were written.
If you can't do that ,can people be allowed to learn on a 250cc if they are over a certain weight.
Thank you.
The bike gangs won’t be happy. All this on every level needs to stop! We the people have been far too complacent for far too long. Stop the rot and sack the lot! Evidence and data says it all
Control control control, nothing else. Decontrol, we've been shit on far too long!
Although seemingly unrelated, those people who obediently wore soggy rancid pieces of cloth on their faces and then blindly rolled their sleeves up for an unproven concoction, gave the tyrants a huge morale boost and told them that 80% of the public are gullible and can be controlled.
It’s still ok to ride a petrol motorcycle in India and Africa.
Keep the pressure on don't let up for a sec stop ULEZ Caz LTN all of them it's all a scam
Parking a motorcycle should be easy but is often a lot harder than parking a car, because cars have designated parking spaces, motorcycles should but often it's difficult to find parking for a motorcycle.
He may say you can find parking easier but often finding legal parking is not that easy anymore, places you think you can park may get you a parking ticket now all done by camera.
Also u got morons in vans going round nicking them in broad day light.
Motorcycles are more environment friendly than cars, most people use cars to go on journeys less than 3 or 4 miles why not use a 125cc bike? So much more environment friendly.. faster journey and enjoyable.
It's not just the exhaust emissions, mpg, its also the materials used to manufacture them
Controllers will soon have to live in fear !.
We didn’t do anything on the first ulez
Bikes should be exempt like they are for other UK schemes
Had a 5 quid moped...dreamt about Honda and Lambretta ...bought a parka ...then a mini 75 quid...had lots of great cars since then I missed out on bikes but managed to fly.commercially... So good luck ulez etc is k ill ing London
I think motorcycle manufacturers should do more. Mixing a electric motor and a turbocharger with a 100+cc engine should be a thing by now.
Was it mentioned it is possible to get an exemption from the ULEZ if your (older) bike passes an emissions test. The only problem is there’s only one garage licensed to issue these certificates (in east london) and it costs about £250 a pop. You’d be surprised which bikes actually produce minimal NOx emissions. The downside, apart from the one garage monopoly & cost, is that, say a Hyabusa on a T plate may have passed previously, it doesn’t mean all Hyabusas are exempt: every bike requires an individual exemption.
If i was still commuting into town i would try for an exemption but i avoid london at all costs these days, even to the point of refusing work.
No there is another garage as well .They get your Nox level down to 0.15 NOX.
@@John-ob7dh where is that , John… and is it around the same price. I’ve seen blackbirds & busas pass. There’s a list of bikes that have passed, somewhere.