So like regular cars, except EV charging stations aren’t as ubiquitous as gas stations yet, so you do have to plan around it. If gas stations were as sparse as EV stations, you know drivers would be planning trips from station to station. Honestly feels the same way as a pilot. Cross country flights are definitely planned mostly around weather and fuel.
@@2EpicEVs Isn't that kinda the point though. I just understand why people bring this point up. It's not clean energy and it's not an emissions free car. The same way our houses and we'll.. everything is or isn't rather. What people forget to mention is how efffecient giant power plants are versus a car engine. I do believe they are better than a gas engine, but they can only be as good as our power plants are in terms of efficiency and how "clean" it is. Hopefully people realize this and we develop better ways to generate electricity. But I love the design on these cars, that kia is one of the better looking evs I've ever seen. Love the videos btw just giving my opinion. These cars are still better than most gas engine cars, except hybrids which may be the best idea for cars!? what is your opinion on hybrids and hybrid technology?
@@2EpicEVs I wonder if we will start seeing more insulation around batteries or at least a subset of the pack to prevent the need for using as much energy to condition. Maybe they already are? What are your thoughts?
😂it's funny that most people watching HATE these things. I can say that I appreciate you because now I know for sure that I dont want one. Thanks buddy.
Have you looked into the cost to replace the battery? I've seen a few examples in Canada in which the battery replacement was equivalent to the cost of the vehicle ($56,000 CAD).
So your whole thing is charging and where you go is to another charger and you add hours to your trip and if you accidently hit the turn signal you crash into the car next to you ?
Here's the current (no pun intended) problem with all current E.V's..what do you do when the vehicle is ten years old and the book value is $15,000 and replacement of the battery pack is $15,000?? These vehicles are essentially bic lighters.when it stops working you throw it away.Filling landfills with 1500lb.lithium ion (read hazardous) battery packs.Not to mention go to autozone and ask for brake rotors and pads for your Tesla.😅😅
You're so full of misinformation! Why would you throw the battery pack away?! It's hugely valuable in raw earth elements! It's getting recycled into new batteries. Also most of these battery packs will last well past 10 years or 300k miles. Also EV's don't need new brake pads or rotors like Gas car's!
That monitor screen seems more like a stress monitor ! OMG I don't have much juice and its minus 7 degrees how am in going to keep warm ? And wait until you have to sit and wait and hang out in a bad neighborhood to charge that thing ! Sitting duck ! Instead of gas and go ! The whole concept is a joke !
I try not to charge in bad neighborhoods. Just like I never got gas in bad neighborhood, staring at the stress monitor is the same as staring at a gas gauge. I was plenty warm tho. 🤷♂️. I mostly charge at home tho when I sleep too.
Most people don't drive more than 150 miles a day. In mild Temps the EV9 will get 250+ miles before needing a charge. So, for 95% of time EV owners simply charge at home. If you daily more than 200+ miles a day, I'd recommend a gas car.
@@bc_usa I know Scotty Kilmer hates them. We saw a Tesla going really slow with it's flashers on the other day. All of them seems to go slow. They look good though.
My Prius is cheaper, I get almost 700 miles off of a 20$ tank. And if you like to go fast Prius power mode is fast. But I like to run eco mode and get that 60-95mpg. On a serious side. They keep pushing these electric cars. "Its climate friendly" the cost to the atmosphere from a electric car being made is 100's of a percent higher. The lifespan of that car one again pollutes more than a traditional gas or diesel engine. Im not climate goer, our co2 has only went up 0.001 percrent in 2 decades. My point is the cost to make that car and all other electrics is very impactuful got to mine the cobalt and lithium with diesel machines just to turn it into a battery its all a vasad. Hybrid cars like my prius are so much less demanding on the earth than an electric and better than a traditional gas or diesel engine on the environment. I mean seriously look at all the cali outages because the grid cant support electric cars yet I'm against any car that plugs into the grid unless it's your house I'm ok with that. Just because our grid isn't ready for all that. And it's so wasteful of time and money honestly. Gas and diesel have been around forever why change something that works. Updating it is all you need like a Prius it charges off the engine and tires. Adds a boost but still uses the basic parts that have created successfull cars since the beginning of time
Just like I'm a NEVER NIKKI.... I'm also a NEVER EV. How long is your trip going to be when you have to wait an hour for someone elses car to charge cuz the plugs are all in use? Not to mention power outages, vandalism, etc?
I charge from home and never have to stop at a gas station on my commute. It's more convenient than gas for my daily commute. If you road trip all the time have a gas car!
That sounds like a pain! Every day when I drive to work I have a full charge because my house is my fueling station. 300 miles of range costs me about $6 bucks!
@@JonathanRootD in less than 100,000 miles you will need to replace a very very expensive battery. My car is just breaking in with another 150,000 miles left in the engine.
It's an election year so people are getting up in arms about it when my decision had nothing to do with politics... I just got sick of paying rising gas prices, so trying something else.
Pre conditioning? That's like you need to burn a couple gallons to fill your tank. Owning an EV is like drinking coffee that has you going from potty stop to potty stop. The added bonus is it's not a pee break. 💩
So pointless. Let me park for an hour to drive 180 miles. When I could fill up in 2 minutes. You're not saving the environment look at Tucker Carlson's interview with Harvard 32 year expert. It's all a scam. I like the torque and that's about it.
Thanks for the video, Sir! Awesome car. Many folks dont understand how awesome EVs are to drive. Most people don't drive more than 150 miles a day and charge each night at home. And yes, an occasional road trip, you have to stop and charge...warmer weather and charging rips. We are an EV family and LOVE them.
Yes 80% of my charging is just at home, so giving they drive to a gas station and stand there and pump on a average of 104 times a year and it takes on a avg 7-10min to perform that stop. I pull in at home get out of my car takes me an extra 15 seconds to plug in my car. I walk in the house. In morning it takes me another 15 seconds to unplug my car. I’m then off. Seems more efficient.
@2EpicEVs spot on, Sir. Next to the driving characteristics (which are awesome), that's the best...not getting out of your car when it's sub zero to pump stinky gas, haha. Also, getting into a toasty cabin each morning makes you a bit spoiled, haha. And a LOT less energy than remote starting an ice block engine and idling in the driveway for 20 minutes to achieve a warm cabin.
Burning coal. How do they think they produce the power. Magic unicorn treadmills. Such a waste of resources. Man made climate change is a myth. Good money maker but false.
They actually use way less energy than gas cars. A typical gas car consumes anything from 5-10 litres of gas per 100km, which equates to 50-100 kWh/100km. An electric car would use 15-30 kWh/100km or about a third of what the gas car uses.
Facts please. Not CNN talking point. Just because they say it on state controlled media outlets doesn't make it a fact. They all invested in lithium battery stocks too. What a joke.
@@Santeri_M actually they are not.they use petroleum as we as solar natural gas and wind.lol like solar and wind would work for long periods of time.we have no wind wheels here or solar stations .so it would be petro as well as putting in charging stations.where do you dispose of batteries?
So 30 minutes charging, 5 minutes to travel to and from charger, , , , 35 minutes spent after 1.5 hour of driving. So 30% increase in trip duration, which isnt awful. But man of arrive and all chargers occupied or broke youre effed. No real man will risk his family being stuck for halfday.. just being honest. But guess everyone buy a $3000 honda generator to keep in trunk, its an easy fix, just have to be humble and see EVs and us drivers can have huge failure and need to prepare. Im a boater and always have 3 outboards on board.
I got better things to do than waiting for this crap. You can keep your battery, ill be at home, done with dinner, showered, and in bed by the time you get to 50%
Nope, ain't gonna buy one. And your depreciation on all those electric cars in your collection. You've probably lost thousands... Hope being woke is worth it...
Thank you for the cold weather test! So many people come on here to express hate and ignorance of EV's. Keep up the good work of informing the public.
Thank you I’m trying
Seems like your always driving to the next charging station not your destination 😮
I drove 400 miles that night just for testing purposes in the cold. :) check out some other videos when I drove to Vegas.
So like regular cars, except EV charging stations aren’t as ubiquitous as gas stations yet, so you do have to plan around it. If gas stations were as sparse as EV stations, you know drivers would be planning trips from station to station. Honestly feels the same way as a pilot. Cross country flights are definitely planned mostly around weather and fuel.
and where is the elctrciry coming from to charge the charging stations.
Coal.
Oh probably, the same place that powers your house and work and everything around you… just a guess tho. 🤷♂️
Depends on where you live. Nuclear, natural gas, hydro and wind are the most common electricity generation methods in general.
@@2EpicEVs Isn't that kinda the point though. I just understand why people bring this point up. It's not clean energy and it's not an emissions free car. The same way our houses and we'll.. everything is or isn't rather. What people forget to mention is how efffecient giant power plants are versus a car engine. I do believe they are better than a gas engine, but they can only be as good as our power plants are in terms of efficiency and how "clean" it is. Hopefully people realize this and we develop better ways to generate electricity. But I love the design on these cars, that kia is one of the better looking evs I've ever seen. Love the videos btw just giving my opinion. These cars are still better than most gas engine cars, except hybrids which may be the best idea for cars!? what is your opinion on hybrids and hybrid technology?
@@marktwain2053wrong! In Eastern Washington most of it comes from Hydro power!
If you had a gas car you'd have filled it already and be back on the road for over 20 minutes by now. smh
Not going to disagree with you on that. :)
man the charging curve is horrible... What happened to 10-80 in 15mins. They need to update their software for precondition the battery better.
You have to remember this is cold weather charging, its behaviors are a bit different.
Number 2 because I arrived a such a low state of charge, I think it shut the down the pre-conditioning at about 12% I think while I driving there
Yeah, this was a cold weather test, and as you may be aware, cold weather affects batteries negatively. Still extremely impressive tbh
@@2EpicEVs I wonder if we will start seeing more insulation around batteries or at least a subset of the pack to prevent the need for using as much energy to condition. Maybe they already are? What are your thoughts?
@@brianschwarm8267 that’s a interesting thought..
😂it's funny that most people watching HATE these things. I can say that I appreciate you because now I know for sure that I dont want one. Thanks buddy.
Glad I could help!
We get to live every minute of recharging a Kia.
Have you looked into the cost to replace the battery? I've seen a few examples in Canada in which the battery replacement was equivalent to the cost of the vehicle ($56,000 CAD).
So your whole thing is charging and where you go is to another charger and you add hours to your trip and if you accidently hit the turn signal you crash into the car next to you ?
Pretty cool huh!
No. It has sensors all over and will not change lanes with other vehicles nearby.
@@SammyGeek yes it does! :)
They compensate the extra trip hours with EV-driver smugness, so it works out.
Here's the current (no pun intended) problem with all current E.V's..what do you do when the vehicle is ten years old and the book value is $15,000 and replacement of the battery pack is $15,000?? These vehicles are essentially bic lighters.when it stops working you throw it away.Filling landfills with 1500lb.lithium ion (read hazardous) battery packs.Not to mention go to autozone and ask for brake rotors and pads for your Tesla.😅😅
You're so full of misinformation!
Why would you throw the battery pack away?! It's hugely valuable in raw earth elements! It's getting recycled into new batteries. Also most of these battery packs will last well past 10 years or 300k miles.
Also EV's don't need new brake pads or rotors like Gas car's!
@@JonathanRootD Thanks for just giving facts about EVs. Go EVs!
Looks like you enjoy driving for station to station counting on that neat screen to get you there
Wow...the lane change thing...more and more like the Jetsons 😊
Great video, I have the same vehicle. How do you keep the charging info on the display? Mine times out, and I can't get it back on.
That monitor screen seems more like a stress monitor ! OMG I don't have much juice and its minus 7 degrees how am in going to keep warm ? And wait until you have to sit and wait and hang out in a bad neighborhood to charge that thing ! Sitting duck ! Instead of gas and go ! The whole concept is a joke !
I try not to charge in bad neighborhoods. Just like I never got gas in bad neighborhood, staring at the stress monitor is the same as staring at a gas gauge. I was plenty warm tho. 🤷♂️. I mostly charge at home tho when I sleep too.
@@2EpicEVsonly idiots allow their batteries down to 9% in 7 degrees. ..
what if u get a flat tire or any emergency.
@@borisperovic5336 true, but I did it for testing purposes and to inform the public of cold weather charging. Thank you for watching
It's totally ridiculous! Who has this kind of time to charge any car! Totally unrealistic.
Most people don't drive more than 150 miles a day. In mild Temps the EV9 will get 250+ miles before needing a charge. So, for 95% of time EV owners simply charge at home. If you daily more than 200+ miles a day, I'd recommend a gas car.
Im never buying an EV
Understandable, I just hate paying the terrible gas tax in our state, it’s bad. So I’m trying other avenues.
@@2EpicEVs😂😂😂😂 Good luck 👍 You're looking in the wrong direction.
@@bc_usa
I know Scotty Kilmer hates them. We saw a Tesla going really slow with it's flashers on the other day. All of them seems to go slow. They look good though.
The best thing about EV is you get to take it with you when you die. Oh wait. It adds no life expectancy? Well damn..😕
JUNK !!!
My Prius is cheaper, I get almost 700 miles off of a 20$ tank. And if you like to go fast Prius power mode is fast. But I like to run eco mode and get that 60-95mpg. On a serious side. They keep pushing these electric cars. "Its climate friendly" the cost to the atmosphere from a electric car being made is 100's of a percent higher. The lifespan of that car one again pollutes more than a traditional gas or diesel engine. Im not climate goer, our co2 has only went up 0.001 percrent in 2 decades. My point is the cost to make that car and all other electrics is very impactuful got to mine the cobalt and lithium with diesel machines just to turn it into a battery its all a vasad. Hybrid cars like my prius are so much less demanding on the earth than an electric and better than a traditional gas or diesel engine on the environment. I mean seriously look at all the cali outages because the grid cant support electric cars yet I'm against any car that plugs into the grid unless it's your house I'm ok with that. Just because our grid isn't ready for all that. And it's so wasteful of time and money honestly. Gas and diesel have been around forever why change something that works. Updating it is all you need like a Prius it charges off the engine and tires. Adds a boost but still uses the basic parts that have created successfull cars since the beginning of time
Gas forever
For my foxbody and my Harley for sure, But I got sick and tired of paying the rising gas prices... so trying out EVs
Ok Boomer.
How much does it cost to charge ?
Time out of your life and now 2x as much as petrol
Rather keep my gas car I’m not waiting a hour to fill my tank up.
Wow EVs freakin suuuuuuck. Wow imagine if you had to wait for another person charging. Thats like 2 hours to charge.
If I had to wait an hour every time I had to gas up, I would never buy that car.
Just like I'm a NEVER NIKKI....
I'm also a NEVER EV.
How long is your trip going to be when you have to wait an hour for someone elses car to charge cuz the plugs are all in use? Not to mention power outages, vandalism, etc?
I charge from home and never have to stop at a gas station on my commute. It's more convenient than gas for my daily commute. If you road trip all the time have a gas car!
@@JonathanRootD
I can see you're an excellent candidate for one of those 15 minute/smart city glorified concentration camps.
I fill up my Lexus es 350 in about 5 or 6 minutes 50 or so bucks with about 300 mile range.
That sounds like a pain!
Every day when I drive to work I have a full charge because my house is my fueling station.
300 miles of range costs me about $6 bucks!
@@JonathanRootD nonsense.
@@JonathanRootD in less than 100,000 miles you will need to replace a very very expensive battery. My car is just breaking in with another 150,000 miles left in the engine.
there's no way I'd buy a EV with all the other problems it has then you have to sit for an hour to get a charge what the hell?!!
Is your audience against ev’s? It seems like it😅 super popular here in northern europe, the best winter car you can have.
It's an election year so people are getting up in arms about it when my decision had nothing to do with politics... I just got sick of paying rising gas prices, so trying something else.
Norway seems to have embraced EV’s!
I'd rather walk. In a race, from cali to New york, you in that and me on foot im 100% sure I'd be there at least 3 months before you. 😂😂😂
Sounds like a awesome cannibal run, I'm down, lets film it together :)
Junk😮
Pre conditioning? That's like you need to burn a couple gallons to fill your tank.
Owning an EV is like drinking coffee that has you going from potty stop to potty stop. The added bonus is it's not a pee break. 💩
So pointless. Let me park for an hour to drive 180 miles. When I could fill up in 2 minutes. You're not saving the environment look at Tucker Carlson's interview with Harvard 32 year expert. It's all a scam. I like the torque and that's about it.
I like Tucker, let me check it out.
Charging curve is awesome on that! Kia has a sleeper on their hands. Niiice
This was a extreme cold weather charge, so behavior is a bit different, but the KIA does charge better then my Tesla and Rivian from 20%-80%
@@2EpicEVsfor sure, I've had both as well...currently looking at the EV9.
Lol!!!
Thanks for the video, Sir! Awesome car. Many folks dont understand how awesome EVs are to drive. Most people don't drive more than 150 miles a day and charge each night at home. And yes, an occasional road trip, you have to stop and charge...warmer weather and charging rips. We are an EV family and LOVE them.
Well said!
Yes 80% of my charging is just at home, so giving they drive to a gas station and stand there and pump on a average of 104 times a year and it takes on a avg 7-10min to perform that stop. I pull in at home get out of my car takes me an extra 15 seconds to plug in my car. I walk in the house. In morning it takes me another 15 seconds to unplug my car. I’m then off. Seems more efficient.
@2EpicEVs Thanks...for sure not enough coffee when I typed that one, haha. Had to edit. 😂
@2EpicEVs spot on, Sir. Next to the driving characteristics (which are awesome), that's the best...not getting out of your car when it's sub zero to pump stinky gas, haha. Also, getting into a toasty cabin each morning makes you a bit spoiled, haha. And a LOT less energy than remote starting an ice block engine and idling in the driveway for 20 minutes to achieve a warm cabin.
Wait till you see the Awesome 50,000 bill to replace the batterys
👍
Your short cycling your battery kills the life... At 80 percent it goes to low rate charge to control battery temperature .
Yep true, I was just trying to inform for the video. So popped higher
So idiots think that tires and lube brake fluid plastic parts of the car and such are not made with oil ?
I never said that at all, for sure it has oil, it even lubes the gears inside the motors. :)
Electric cars are awful .they use so much energy.where does electricity come from?
From power plants, which produce and distribute energy more efficiently than a car’s combustion engine
Burning coal. How do they think they produce the power. Magic unicorn treadmills. Such a waste of resources. Man made climate change is a myth. Good money maker but false.
They actually use way less energy than gas cars. A typical gas car consumes anything from 5-10 litres of gas per 100km, which equates to 50-100 kWh/100km. An electric car would use 15-30 kWh/100km or about a third of what the gas car uses.
Facts please. Not CNN talking point. Just because they say it on state controlled media outlets doesn't make it a fact. They all invested in lithium battery stocks too. What a joke.
@@Santeri_M actually they are not.they use petroleum as we as solar natural gas and wind.lol like solar and wind would work for long periods of time.we have no wind wheels here or solar stations .so it would be petro as well as putting in charging stations.where do you dispose of batteries?
So 30 minutes charging, 5 minutes to travel to and from charger, , , , 35 minutes spent after 1.5 hour of driving. So 30% increase in trip duration, which isnt awful. But man of arrive and all chargers occupied or broke youre effed. No real man will risk his family being stuck for halfday.. just being honest. But guess everyone buy a $3000 honda generator to keep in trunk, its an easy fix, just have to be humble and see EVs and us drivers can have huge failure and need to prepare. Im a boater and always have 3 outboards on board.
I got better things to do than waiting for this crap. You can keep your battery, ill be at home, done with dinner, showered, and in bed by the time you get to 50%
Nope, ain't gonna buy one.
And your depreciation on all those electric cars in your collection.
You've probably lost thousands...
Hope being woke is worth it...
Junk