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- Many people rave about the benefits of acupuncture but does it actually cure anything? What if it's just the placebo effect at work?
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Acupuncture -- A Critical Analysis
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"Even though widely used in today's clinical practice, acupuncture has remained a controversial subject. Many reviews are currently available but most lack a critical stance and some are overtly promotional. The aim of this overview is to provide a balanced, critical analysis of the existing evidence."
Acupuncture: Does It Alleviate Pain And Are There Serious Risks? A Review Of Reviews
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"Acupuncture is commonly used for pain control, but doubts about its effectiveness and safety remain. This review was aimed at critically evaluating systematic reviews of acupuncture as a treatment of pain and at summarizing reports of serious adverse effects published since 2000. Literature searches were carried out in 11 databases without language restrictions. Systematic reviews were considered for the evaluation of effectiveness and case series or case reports for summarizing adverse events."
5 Scientists Weigh In On Acupuncture
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"Millions of Americans turn to acupuncture each year to treat chronic pains and even depression. Recently, researchers at Rutgers University reported that combining the acupuncturist's needle with an electric current could yield a new treatment for severe inflammation. Yet many scientists look skeptically at the practice."
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Cured me of smoking...they stabbed me in the eyes i went blind so could not find my cigarettes
😂😂
Nice acuPUNcture
User Name Well i thought i would take a stab at it
+Eastyy's blogspot the puns!!! ;-;
Arnaldonintendo That's the _point_ of puns, they get under your skin.
My mom does acupuncture. Whether it works or not doesn't matter to me since it has taken her off all of her pain meds and is almost always pain free.
Wow
Helps my pain. I would do it to myself if I could.
So true
Placebo effect :D
yeah having a job is great
Tried it. Takes the pain away and makes other muscles score in a good way. Felt crazy electric shocks during the sessions. I'm into western medicine and practicing it as well but acupuncture worked for me.
I have always been skeptic regarding acupuncture but since my first treatment it is undeniable that it works for me.
Treatment for what?
yeah i want more details please
That's still anecdotal evidence, whether you're a skeptic or not, and not strong evidence.
Here's some more: practicing wushu, I made a muscle rupture on my inner thigh. My sensei practiced acupuncture and gave me the treatment. It did feel relaxing at the time, but I still have a funky muscle to this day, over 10 years later.
Cured my daughter of muscle spasms. We took her to a neurologist first and he said it was all in her head but still charged us over $400 to do nothing. Told us to lie to her that it would go away in a week. Took her to 1 session of acupuncture and it was almost gone. After the second it was gone. Cost $80.
For me and my asthma it actually worked. It might just be the mental aspect, but i'm happy i did it.
Acupuncture cured my asthma too as a kid. Started treatment at 6 and I was symptom free within a year and haven't had it since.
Mr. Rychehead it stings when it penetrates the skin but only for a couple of seconds.
it's not that bad. You should try it. Never give it up that easily
My asthma went away in late puberty, about three years.
You had the same thing and you were poked on the side with no effect.
+Mr. Rychehead Acupuncture is like a massage, just relax.
I worked with an acupuncturist in my clinic. One day I started to get a migraine, which usually entails laying down in a dark room for 4+ hours since my vision starts to get wonky. She stuck 10+ needles in my face and in 10 minutes my migraine was completely gone. I've also been treated with herbs for chronic ovarian cyst that doctors said I'd have to treat with either hormones or surgery. After just 3 months my 6cm cysts were completely gone. There is also trouble with the "sham" needles because you are still piercing the skin, which in turn still counts regardless of how deep you go. Still a lot of work in accurately representing the medicine in research; but for a 3,000 year old medicine there has to be something going on for it to have lasted this long! It is still preferred over in China before "extreme" Western methods.
A couple of years ago, my dachshund started having trouble with his spine. It got to the point where he couldn't move his hind paws. Then i found out that he could get better with acupuncture, so we found a veterinarian who could do it and took him there. He got A LOT better after four or five sessions. He now catches mice that he sees in the garden.
So the treatment turned him into a cat or made him believed that he is a cat....try calling him by the name Garfield...maybe he'll acknowledge it....
5 sessions, about $350.00. Have uou considered a new dog?
My dad had his vision damaged due to diabetes. He tried western medicine at two different hospitals. None worked. Doctor said he might need surgery. Instead, we tried chinese herb medicine and accupuncture. Two weeks later, the condition has significantly improved. I am not sure if it was the herb or the accupuncture that worked miracle.
I had my wisdom teeth removed and the "western" doctors damaged my jaw really badly in the process. I was in huge amounts of pain for 2 years, then I went to a Chinese doctor for acupuncture treatment and it's been 5 years of no pain since then. It does work and the theory behind it is simple, if something is damaged and hasn't repaired fully the needles draw more blood to that area and in turn tricks the body into thinking there's been more damage done to that area so it starts the repairing process again
And you know what the western doctors were offering.. More surgery this time on the outside of my face to put the cartilage in my jaw back into place
+Benjamin Mckenzie I'm not saying western medicine is all bad and Chinese medicine is all good but there's times when you should consider other perspectives and not dismiss it as dated and therefore redundant
It's not that it's dated and redundant. It's that there's no scientific premise for it, no real way for reliable replication of effects, and statistical findings aren't consistent.
I'm glad you're feeling better, btw.
+VendorTrash I understand the need for more evidence and I also feel like there's a lot of fakes out there who don't know what they're doing. I was lucky to get someone who's family had been practicing for generations. I don't believe in using acupuncture for anything other than pain relief and joint/muscle repair. You should try it if you have a sore neck or back etc I hope you don't but you'll find it to be a very long term solution
I'll keep it in mind if I ever find myself in that situation, and all other scientifically accepted solutions have failed to provide my desired outcome. (Yes, I really talk that in real life. ^_^; )
I used to have a crippling lower back pain and could hardly walk. I lived on morphine which has it's adverse effects. Out of despair i tried acupuncture and to my amazement the pain ceased and I can walk again with the occasional minimal pain! It was a truly amazing experience. Now if this is an isolated case I don't know but it doesn't hurt to try. Incidentally my insurance covered it which is an amazing thing to happen here in the usa where you either have insurance or you die
I just got back from acupuncture, I go for stress relief as well as nerve stimulation in my ears to help me recover from Otto-toxic hearing loss from chemo. I absolutely think acupuncture works, with every fiber of my being I know it works. My doctors said my hearing would never come back, but I have since gained back most of my hearing and it is because I go to acupuncture three times a week. I always sleep better after acupuncture too, and I think it also helps with my nausea. To those who think it's a scam, it's not.
What's with your profile pictures???
It doesn't take long to realise or figure out, it's the first letter of their youtube name.
mitchiemasha Yeah, that was the first time I'd seen it, so I thought they were part of some strange youtube network
It works. It healed my back pain and insomnia but let these people keep taking pills and looking for the instant cure. Maybe they are too young to have felt pain yet so they just don't know. I kind of feel bad for close minded people but at the same time I think you get the kind of treatment you deserve due to your closed mind. So when pain does happen to some people so will medication addiction. I really don't wish pain medication addiction on anyone. I wish you could know how well it works.
danceluver156 I couldn't have said it better myself
I never believed in Acupuncture, I treated it with the same disregard as I treat homeopathy. That changed last year (the acupuncture, not the homeopathy). My dog started to get really unstable. When going on walks, her hips would give out a couple op times during the walk. It only got worse, and I thought she wouldn't make the end of the month. Then my vet told me to try acupuncture. After a couple of sessions, my dog started to get better, and now 1.5 years later, we can go on walks for 30min (a day) again. She's still a 13 year old german shepherd, and didn't change into a 5 year old dog again. But I'm really glad it worked (she's been my Guide Dog from when she was two, until she retired at 10years old, and her happiness means a lot to me). I'm still sceptical about acupuncture (that will never go away), but I can't deny the results, she doens't fall as much (almost never during walks), and that observation isn't my imagination.
Hard to do placebo on dog so yeah, this convinces me to try acupuncture
Whether it was really the acupuncture or not, animal testing is definitely an interesting approach to dealing with placebo
I noticed a significant decrease of libido associated with my lower back pain. Orientalcurrent is one of the best sites I ever found that well explains instant Chi & sexual energy replenishment as well kidney essence restoration using non-invasive modality on acupoints from Daoism. When Chi flows freely throughout the body without blockages, it fixs up both problems.
I got acupuncture treatment twice. One for nose bleeding and the other one lower back. I had nose bleeding every week, until one day my co-worker, a Mexican lady, saw me. She told me to go to her acupuncture doctor. I went there for about 3 treatments, I never had nose bleeding anymore. The other one is the lower back. I got this lower back pain was just because I was picking up a piece of paper, and suddenly I got back pain. Usually, it will be gone after several days, this one was 3 weeks and still not gone. My friend suggested me to go to the acupuncture guy who treated him. At about 1 pm (after lunch), I went there. The secretary at my office saw me leaving. It was so painful. Even getting into my car, it was like a torture. When I arrived at the acupuncture place, the guy asked me left or right. I said " I do not know, just lower back". He poked me with two needles on the top of my left hand, between pinky and ring finger. The needles stayed for 15 or 20 min. After that, he told me to stand up. I was able to stand up. When I went back to the office the secretary could not believe what she saw! I was able to walk normally.
1:04 he says "smoking rehabilitation" but on the list it says "stroke rehabilitation"
yeah bro you got it right
They probably use it for both things. Not that it would work in either case.
I don't know. I don't personally believe it, but it is helping my mother with her blood-loss problems, even if it's just a placebo effect.
+Stelum 1000 nothing wrong with the placebo effect! I personally use the placebo effect before attempting to use actual drugs because sometimes the placebo effect works, especially for minor things, the body just fixes itself if you convince yourself it can.
Ashley ASHLEYM No, of course there's nothing wrong with it. It's that you could use it with something else, for example, eating something you like and thinking it's good for you, as opposed to spending 50 Euro on acupuncture like my mom does.
I recently had an exercise related shoulder/front dealts injury that had been getting worse for a month. After one acupuncture session (first acupuncture experience) I was 90% better the next day. It's definitely not a placebo effect or "it was actually getting better by itself"
I think this video only focused on pain relief, but i thought the whole point of acupuncture was to create micro "injuries" so that it activates your immune system and encourages healing. This worked for me as well when i had a lower back injury, it didn't heal well so the acupuncture helped it heal over better.
How can you be so sure it wasn’t placebo effect, the whole point of it is that you don’t notice it wasn’t true.
@@Luis-fd2bi Whether it is the placebo effect or not does not matter. The pain has been relieved.
personal experience doesn't prove anything
@@gustavocarvalho3368 seems like you forgot that medicine is supposed to alleviate pain. Perhaps you should find out what the scientific method is.
what if people in the west are just fatter than the east and therefore you can't reach the same spots so it doesn't work ?
hahahaha
okagedesu that's why it didn't work for the Nutty Professor
OMG, funniest fuckin comment! LOL
that might be true considering the easts concept of qi and health is you need to change your diet and your way of thinking, start being more relaxed and let go of fears an anxiety, once the body is in a healthy state that's when your bodies qi can circulate properly so acupuncture can only do so much but its down to you as a person to take care of your own body, eat healthy, exercise, stay positive etc. that's pretty much it.
We are...ahem I am but got around this problem with the use of 14 inch needles
I had 6 months acupuncture therapy for my anxiety disorder and although I have made huge improvements, I cannot isolate my progress to the treatment alone. The calming environment did help to relax for a while though!
It works, i’ve tried it and it helps me overcome my shortness of breath, and racing heartbeat.
Turned out my shortness of breath and racing hearts beat is because I’m in love
@@maverickaxl3305 I think you need a body massage from your BF
Symptoms of anxiety
Please take note that Chinese medicine sees human body in a completely different perspective from the Western medicine. Unless you actually did a full-scale study on Chinese medicine, you won't be able to understand any single aspect of it.
Acupuncture helped me in so many ways. They don't provide the most instant treatment to someone, but if applied consistently will help reduce pain and sickness.
Accupuncture really helped with my back porblems. and the nerve damage i got in my hand due to workplace accident
seen it used in a recovery room...when the patient was screaming in pain....we used a huge amount of drugs...he was completely objective..due to his situation....he hurt....placebos dont work on a patient that is experiencing this much post op pain....acupuncture was performed. and worked immediately...patient calmed down and in fact went to sleep....proof enough for me.
Acupuncture works. I was diagnosed for focal dystonia when I was 12. I had to see a neurologist once every year just to tell me they don’t know what’s wrong and there is no cure and hopefully these pills can mask the problem. I’ve been going to an acupuncturist for the past month. At first I wasn’t too convinced but after the fourth time going I truly saw the result. I no longer convulse from doing normal things like getting up from a chair or from walking. I’m 21 now. They targeted the issue rather than masking it with strong pills.
Placebo
@@theammadam True, but what scientists want is to fill the gap between acupuncture and its effectiveness, they need to know why.
@@theammadam not sure how a placebo actually removes the physical and neurological symptoms doctors couldn't deal with despite all their knowlede. For someone with a South Indian name, you are embarrassingly coconut at the moment.
@@SantomPh ever heard of psychomotor symptoms??
Also, a placebo simply doesn't mean something without any effect. Placebo has much deeper meaning in modern medicine. It means something with significantly inferior effect to standard treatment.
And as you asked "How?" Is one part which acupuncture actually is deficienct. Nobody can actually give a solid scientific plausible reason why it is effective. Only explanations in existence is some pseudoscientific explanations just like homeopaths do, which can be broken by a +2 student with proper understanding of biology.
Second major problem is " lack of evidence". In the current era of evidence based medicine, more than 130 RCT studies has proven acupuncture has zero to negligible benefit over standard treatment. ( Only other thing to fail to gain evidence so miserably is yoga).
And to your question, me and my friends have practiced in TN rural villages for a couple of years. They had huge deficiency of analgesic injection due to some government restriction during that time. We, on average , used to see atleast 20 back pains and hip pains. Only thing we used to give is an IV injection of 5ml normal saline (NaCl). Those patients used to have better pain relief than a proper analgesic and used to offer us fruits and vegetables from their home. Out of my two year service, only 3 or 4 patients had pain which didn't settle by normal saline injection and needed further evaluation ( one of them had spinal TB and other 2 has renal stones)
So don't tell me placebo effect can't cure pain. I literally lived on placebo effect for 2 years!
Many things had not need to appeal to certain logic in order for it to happened.
I don't watch these videos to draw my own conclusion
Charles Waitt sooo truee
I agree
😂 😂
You just make uninformed comments in the comments section to tell people you don't watch the video that you're watching, to draw your own conclusion about something you're not informing yourself about?
Jon Dunmore And you just look for comments to try and condescend to and prove how almighty and intelligent you are? Fail.
Personally this treatment has helped me significantly with my Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Panic Disorder in reducing tension in my muscles and giving me a more calm environment than what I am used to. But this can depend on the person when it comes to mental health issues.
Tell me more please. I have anxiety
Adrenal fatigue is very common...
it worked for me. I have debilitating sciatica. Before I could barely walk, after one year I was much better. It doesn't work instantly like a pill, but takes time.
Hey random person scrolling through the comments section! Have a nice day!
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Fuck you. Naaah just kidding, have a nice day too.
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Does this cure the type of pain commonly called "pins and needles" or make it worse?
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Spaceman Realmoney LOL that's backwards, but I love it ^_^
that was the point :P, cause I think I randomly saw you somewhere else on youtube and commented 93, so I figured I'd switch it up a lil this time.
Yes, this syndrome is known as blood deficiency.
I do believe that acupuncture helps, but only for certain people, just like HIV medication isn't gonna cure cancer, acupuncture isn't gonna cure cancer either, but that doesn't mean it won't fix or relieve other problems. I personally hate needles, I've had a huge phobia of them for the longest time, and I believed acupuncture to be a scam as well, but due to my large plethora of health problems and lack of effective treatments, I decided I should try acupuncture. keep in mind, I never believed in it, but after getting several treatments, I do believe I am better off, it didn't cure me. But it did help, and it definitely didn't harm me. All in all, I think you just gotta find what's right for you. Even depression medication doesn't help out every depressed person. So not all tests saying that acupuncture is a scam, should be taken as fact. I hope I got my point across, sorry if I didn't make much sense.
I had depression and anxiety, I took pills for anxiety and depression, all it did was make me gain 30 lbs and make me want to kill myself more because of that.
"Studies" that show acupuncture as a "scam" are a) super flawed and b) always sponsored by big pharma
I had to stop to reply after reading just to the second line. HIV is not cancer lol. The medication for it isn't meant to cure cancer anyways.
My cat was dx'ed with advanced cancer. Before prescribing homeopathic remedies, the Vet administered a few sessions of acupuncture and laser treatments. This eased her pain and bone deterioration greatly. We were fortunate to have an additional 18 months together before my sweet old girl indicated that she was ready to cross the Rainbow Bridge. I'm grateful for natural healing methods.
ok say what u want but acupuncture literally makes you feel so relaxed and amazing. it's literally amazing
Michael Markowsky look at you nothing but a pathetic waste of a human attacking someone for no reason
@@plazmamasta193 You're doing the same.. That comment is a year old. Get over it.
@@aricaric1894 but you're doing the same thing too, but then I'm doing the same by replying to you. What the-
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Come on!
Some decency here, you sloppy twa...
@@00hn34 How dare you attack the person attacking the person that was attacked by the person that is attacking the person?
I studied western medicine, yet my doctor is a Chinese Medicine Doctor and have healed me from various chronic conditions I suffered from...Initially I was incredulous, so I doubt that my results had anything to do with the placebo effect. I went to my first appointment to satisfied a love one. I was impressed. Slept like a baby that night, and from there a bunch of other symptoms started to subside. I have to say my vision also improved which I never expected could be something acupuncture could help.
I used to have bad acid reflux when I was younger and always going in and out of the doctor. My grandpa is a hippie and recommended acupuncture and after a few treatments, I never had the problem again
I have had tingling and numbness in my left hand (peripheral neuropathy) for 2 months and 2 things helped it immensely: chriopractic and accupuncture. I had a round of chiro and it was better for sure, then I had a round of accupuncture for the first time... it's almost totally resolved now...after 2 months of barely being able to sleep, I can sleep fully again. It works.
Getting my first acupuncture today due to trouble sleeping, hope it helps
@jordanunknown5128 so how did it go
me and my sciatica has been treated by doctors by .... doing nothing and taking Tramadol. last week, after 4 sciatica attacks in 3 years I went for my first acupuncture. I slept all night first time in 9 days. I didn't took painkillers, I feel 5% of pain that was crippling me for so long. I'm coming back next week and another 2 times.
we do not know all as scientists, we can't prove things or disprove because we simply have no full picture of what is going on in a body.
should also mention that during first 25 minutes of consultation this Chinese doctor told me I suffer allergies, asthma, carpal tunnel syndrome, palpitations and tachycardia? yep, all of it without even mentioning about it to him in a first place. My GP doesn't even know how to ease sciatica with a tennis ball!
I am having sciatica and acupuncture really helps relieve the pain.I have undergone 7 treatments now and I can now walk without much difficulty!
jason phang Did you have a walking disability?
I had acupuncture for sciatica, too. It worked. My MD was speechless...
I have been dealing with my sciatica for awhile as well. I have finally decided to try acupuncture. My first appointment is tomorrow at 1pm!! I am
Excited and nervous. I want to feel normal again.
I hope it does get better, even just a little.
wow thats fabulous so happy to hear you dont have to suffer so bad anymore! one question for you, and all the other success stories regarding acupuncture- is it a registered chinese medicicne acupuncture or a simple licensed acupuncture? what was your method of finding them, if any? thanks for sharing :)
I use it constantly because it totally does work for me. I have muscle knots and pain covering over half my body and it's had tremendous results. The knots will dissipate if contacted with a quick jab of a needle. It can hurt for a second but it totally helps in the long-run.
Tried it, it never actually cured anything but the process itself was relaxing.
did you even have anything to cure....?
Well, once you go it won't cure all your problems
Agreed Oren. Acupuncture possibly triggered my anxiety after treatments.
You need to get a series of treatments to fully heal it's not a one time fix all treatment
Acupuncture will not help you to pay off your debts.
I have always been a skeptic until I saw it work on dogs. I'm still not convinced but there might be something to it
I used acupuncture to get rid of constant neck and headache pain that I had for many years. The pain has been gone for about 11 years now, and I had one unbelievable side effect. I woke up one morning and no longer needed glasses. I used to be required to wear corrective lenses while driving, but that was taken off my license 11 years ago and I have passed the eye exam every time I renew my license. I am sure many will not believe me, but I truly love being pain free and not having to wear glasses for the last 11 years.
Why not believe you? It's a beautiful "side effect" you experienced n congratulations for that! I am an allopath n have also been trained in acupuncture n can expect such incidences... Btw, the credit goes to your acupuncturist for selecting appropriate acupuncture points!
My wife asked me million times to do it and I did!
It works amazingly
Totally works. Not placebo although it may have placebo effects. When the needle hits the points, it creates sensations such as soreness, aching, numbness, distension, tightness, twitching, radiation, crawling, even internal organ movements. I am an acupuncturist and I have witnessed miracles of acupuncture on others and myself. Often if it is done right, you can see result right away as soon as the needle hits the jackpot. Diseases can happen at all levels: physical, energetic, emotional, and karmic. Acupuncture deals with illness at all levels, but best at energetic and emotional levels.
He didn't say "More research is needed." Wow.
I've received a lot of acupuncture treatments after I was hit by a bus. The first ones treatment plateaued quickly, but the second one really helped. The latter was more painful during the insertion part, but pain relief was great.
And you know it wasn't placebo because....... ?
Kristen Upham
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ibuprofen303 even if it was a placebo it still worked
Is there different stages of stimulation?
@@rajd8670 There are. There are different gauges or thicknesses of needles. They can be inserted to different depths(depending largely on what area of the body you're working on). You can add heat, vibration or electrical stimulation, and even manipulate the needles while they are inserted to achieve different effects, either boosting or sedating different points.
It worked for my mom, her muscles that felt tight or stressed (idk how to describe it) actually became relaxed because of it. It certainly isn't as great as the movies ( I know a couple of Asian shows that make it magical lol) but it does have effects.
It reduces muscle tension and relaxes them, great for back pain and works instantly on cramps
You never answered the question you just questioned if actually works
Once I had terrible headache, my mom put two needles into my head, the moment they went through, my headache immediately disappeared completely, that is when I believed.
I use to receive acupuncture for depression. But my acupuncturist kept claiming it could heal/treat anything from a cold to my IBS. My colon wasn't as easy to trick as my brain. And I also noticed that no matter what my acupuncturist would put the same needles in the same spots for the same amount of time.
Once I've broke my back at work, went to have acupuncture, and after a day or two, I felt fine, I never believed that it'll work, but damn color me surprised
It helped me with my sinuses and improved my health overall for a while when i was taking the treatment. Still to this day some positive effects are present
The whole time I was wishing he would just get to the point
Shaun Smith good one
Okay although I personally think the science of acupuncture needs to be further studied, a very likely reason that results from Asia were significantly different from other places is that in Asia acupuncture must be carried out be physicians with certified Chinese medicine license similar to that of western medicine (it's pretty hard to get). Most acupuncture researches and knowledge still remain in Chinese and Chinese only, and it's not as simple as putting needles somewhere on a person as depicted in Kung Fu Panda, although I've seen people do that a lot outside Asia. Same goes with cupping. You can't just cup anywhere and expect a result.
People can say whatever they want, but I've had chronic knee pain since my knee cap was split in half due to a car hitting me. After 5 years of recovery, and trying many treatments, I turned to acupuncture. I was skeptical, but I finally tried it since my wife is Chinese and said give it a shot. It has seriously helped me, A LOT. It's not just the needles, but my acupuncturist hooks up electricity waves to each needles and pumps that for 25 min into my knee. My knee has never been better. I'm a 32 year old man who does intense sports or weightlifting every day, so I know my bad knee after 5 years, and with the right treatment I can see a major difference. After sports I'd be limping for 24-48 hours, but with this treatment I'm so much better and almost no pain when doing sports. How can a fake treatment make that happen for me? It's not a mental thing, the pain is either there and intense, or it's not there (after acupuncture).
I'm a college student and I'm basically broke! I have patella tendinitis! Im terrified to try the his because I don't want to waste money! I will be wasting 350 dollars! Im so stressed but I'm in so much pain! Should I try.
yes，you should try！
Doesn’t mean that Accupuncture works. The body naturally heals itself. I broke my neck. It took me a while to recover, I didn’t use Accupuncture but even if I did, the results would still be the same. Accupuncture is a scam. If it were real I would see information to the contrary.
So your body healed itself and therefore acupuncture is a scam? How logical.
kai2698, That pretty much sums it up. Pardon the pun, but yes the body heals itself, even when your doing Accupuncture, giving the person a belief that it actually works.
I sprained my ankle in 2017 and was in constant pain due to poor rehab and training, I couldn't get rid of it with physiotherapy or ice, and when I tried acupuncture I felt 100% pain free again after four sessions
I have had chronic knee and acupuncture so far has been helpful. I can feel the nerves in my leg tingle and my blood rush through the area. The jury is still out if it is a viable solution to address pain, but so far it's been good.
It works... I am a strong personality but after that microneedle puncture I fell down unconscious as it made me so much tired.
Indians know how true acupuncture is.
@@santhoshrider9474 why do u say so?
I dont believe it at first, i got an eye infection and my eyeball was swelling, then a friend of mine took me to doctor (yes he is an actual doctor) who practices acupuncture. He asked me "do i want to relieve the swelling", i said "of cause". Before i know what he was going to do, he already put a needle between my big toe and second toe. The swelling subsided immediately in minutes. Here is the catch, i didn't know he was doing it. placebo? i dont think so. He gave me some antibiotic later on.
Quackery at its finest.
He gave you antibiotic later...... That doesn't relieve swelling when there is none there to relieve......
扎的肝经太冲穴，肝开窍于目。泄肝火。
im a quadriplegic and acupuncture was used post accident to encourage blood flow to areas and to releave muscle tension and nerve pain, im not sure if it made anything better but i felt like it did relieve tension and i can see how blood flow could affect healing. just my experience
Finally someone who can pronounce Qi
KI!!
It's not real. Who cares?
VHS Projekt BLUE It's the Japanese pronunciation, no? And isn't Qi a Chinese concept? Correct me if I'm wrong.
The Japanese pronounciation is "Kee." The original spelling has been Ch'i.
檀 杏斗 I know. Look I'm a Christian who was baptized recently. I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I think there is are real cures that are being suppressed out of 😱 and arrogance.
It belongs to a different medicine system for thousands of years. Being different doesn't make it wrong or placebo or voodoo tricks. As long as it works and the result is positive, it is a working medicine system, even if it cannot be explained by the medical system you are familiar with.
I've been for acupuncture treatment before, had accident on my knee and it destroys like 30% of the knee cap. The injury is successfully treated by the doctors but the pain is still there whenever I walk and I can't bend my knee like normal because there feels like fluid inside prevents me doing so. So I went for the acupuncture and they treat me for a week or so. And it works wonderfully! No pain ever since and I can walk pretty normally again. I didn't say acupuncture will treat everything but for my case, it treats me well.
Yes. It works. It's not a placebo effect. I started treatments about 2 months ago for a neck injury. Nothing else has worked.. I didn't expect it to have any impact at all. I went with skepticism... No longer skeptical. If you want to know if it works ...try it..
how do u know ur neck pain wouldn't disappear without the acupuncture?
@@hihtitmamnan Well said
in Year 9
I was kicked in the eye, my vision was all blurry kt was getting worse day by day, so there was no way I could wait a week
called a specialist they said my appointment was a week away, if you live in Australia you would know the medical system is hell.
so after day three I felt like u was going blind, I got acupuncture, and it worked kept going back until my vision was restored.
I hate needles but this was one thing that guaranteed my vision
and of course it works, it's not poking the skin, it pokes pressure points, that's why they have being practicing it for a few thousand years
imo alternative medicine doesn't really NEED to be scientifically proven, if it's harmless and it makes people feel better, safer and cope then i don't see a problem with it. You need to do what's useful FOR YOU personally, even if it's just a placebo effect or something, if it makes you feel better, it makes you feel better and that's all that matters.
It's not harmless, when people choose alternative medicine and then refuse actual medicine, it's incredibly harmful and has the potential to kill. I mean if people do it in conjunction with real medicine then ok, but if they don't, then they're killing themselves (assuming their aliment is serious). And if children are involved it's considered neglect. And just because you feel better, doesn't mean you are better, especially with serious conditions, so no feeling better is not all that matters unless the condition is benign.
@Ashley ASHLEYM ^^^^ This
+Ashley ASHLEYM +
Well, of course, I'm not suggesting you go get a massage if you have fucking cancer, and yes, there needs to be a balance between medicine and natural/alternative remedies.
However, i feel everyone's free to get their illnesses treated however they please... i even think people is free to decide not to be treated, it can be a valid choice (unless it's a contagious illness). in the case of children it's different because they're not choosing by themselves and they don't have the means to make an informed choice so yeah, you need to be responsible when choosing what to do with your children.
+E MB There's a difference with cancer, you don't just go back for an expensive scan when your feeling better. It could be too late. I know it was hyperbole.
There is something similar called dry needling. It uses the needle to release tense muscles. It's amazing.
Went to the hospital 3 times and couldnt help me get well after about a month on and off being ill. Went to chinease medicne clinic once and cured me (used accupuncture + herbal midicine) + went back for checkup.
It would be interested to see if some of the negative research you mentioned was paid for by big pharmaceutical companies, also worth considering is "sham" acupuncture (an acupuncture point that is not needled correctly or a needle that misses the point by several millimetres) can still have a therapeutic effect.
It is worth noting that The World Health Organisation includes acupuncture in its list of accepted therapies for a wide range of conditions.
hello. acupuncture is bullshit. goodbye.
Acupuncture regulated my mensural cycle. It was the only thing I did differently - didn’t change my diet, exercise routine, etc.. I’m not sure exactly how but it worked for me.
German researchers found in 2014 that the fascia of the back muscles has many nerve endings embedded in it, mainly pain receptors. Stretching them proved to reduce pain, and they proposed that as the mechanism for how acupuncture can reduce pain. It's not conclusive, but worth mentioning.
It worked for me for my Supra Spinatus Tendonitis… after months of physiotherapy the doctor concluded to give surgery as it was not improving.
Went to a TC practitioners and after 25 sittings over 2 months ot was healed completely verified by the scans.
Currently undergoing similar treatment for other shoulder for Rotator Cuff injury… looking forward to similar results like before.
it did relieve tension in my lower back.
I tried once to relax my muscles from stress, nothing else worked even sport. And I swear I did one session and I felt like a feather all my muscles were super relaxed, so it worked for me.
Never tried it myself but I know folks who tried it for pain control in arthritis and recommended it.
that final destination scene will always keep me from trying it even if it was proven to work, well.. unless i was dying.
Less hypertensive meds after 2-3 sessions of acupuncture. 👍🏼
But isn’t acupuncture normally used to release tight muscles?
It fixed my chronic shoulder bursitis after 3 sessions. I noticed my shoulder improving dramatically after the 2nd session.
It seems to be in particular useful as an accessory to standard care, for patients with greater severe signs and symptoms and for those wishing to keep away from analgesic pills (Sherman 2009a, 2009b; Lewis 2010).
Personally, I can attest to the effectiveness of acupuncture.
Well, speaking from a Traditional Chinese Medicine Practitioner point of view.
- People refer to acupuncture, most of the time, it's referring to an act of sticking acupuncture needle on the body, without proper Chinese Medicine diagnosis nor manipulation. ( same as if someone suffering from back pain and having a surgery without surgery indication)
- The acupuncturist is the main factor which determines whether if it's going to be a benefit for the condition or not. ( Same as there're some doctors see a headache as a symptom, the other doctors see the same headache as part of the disorder instead of just a single problem. PS, according to CBS News, each year there are 12 MILLIONS of Americans are misdiagnosed)
- Chinese Medicine training and education are totally different in Asia than in the North America. This could be true if there's only 53% of research done in America indicate that Acupuncture work positively, because of the training and the way that doctors practice acupuncture in China are more professional and authentic. Just a simple fact that when I used to work in GuangZhou China, we used acupuncture as part of the medical system to correct the pathogenic disorder, in comparison in the west, most of the TCM practitioners are focus on building their business and how NOT to poke a person without pain, and hope it works.
Hope this would help to clear up some general misconceptions.
Cheers,
i have a question for you- is it recommended for children to receive acupuncture at as young as 6 years old (or maybe even younger)? i have this idea in my mind - but know i am not medically trained whatsoever- that childrens' nerves are not fully feveloped so poking them would lead to possible tiny scar tissue, thus blocking full sensation later down the road. could you answer this for me?
Yea they treat it more like an exotic spa or massage in the west.
12 million Americans is the number they will admit. It's undoubtedly much, much higher. Doctors lie to protect each other just like cops. Doctors are just cops with more expensive (and more useless) education.
My dad got a stroke in May and is now going through rehabilitation. He lives in Taiwan and so the doctors also use acupuncture in his treatment. My dad can't move his right side because of the stroke but is able to when they do acupuncture. Sometimes his limbs move on their own while other times he's able to actually control them and move them. While I don't know if the acupuncture has much effect on his recovery, I do know that acupuncture has some effect on the body.
I had acupuncture and I fainted when having it I’m not particularly fond on needles but I also don’t hate them. Is there any reason for why I could have fainted and how I can prevent it happening in the future?
The mind is supposed to effect the flow and conditions of chi.
It still works even if the needle is shallow. Some points have done very noticeable and theraputic effects and some did little. Give it a try!
why does 5,000 years of use carry on? If I said chops sticks touched to my knee would cure headaches, it would not carry on for 5,000 years. So why would people carry on acupuncture for 5,000 years if it did not work? It has been around 5,000 years because it does work.
placebo´s can last forever, why would people pray to the same God for thousands of years if prayer doesn´t work?, all religions can´t be right so most people are using completely ineffective prayer even if you´re religious.
+liskran Well said.
liskran yea placebo make paralyzed old woman can walk again after 3 times of treatment..
scientific treatment need $$$$ to barely walk with assistant
+Kenji Bhakti Source?
InMaTeofDeath my gramps was get a treatment for his backache and pain around his plevic in bandung city, Indonesia. next to his room was the paralysed old woman (bcause of stroke). she told us and we see w/ our own eyes b4 the 3rd treatments and after. :)
it doesn't cost much here & really affordable. but, well, different places has different prices and conditions 😯
And different practitioner 😯
I fell on my neck while doing stunts. Couldn’t look up and had severe muscle pain for months and it went AWAY after being poked, I wouldn’t call that placebo 😂 some magic needles to say the least.
In my experience I can say that acupuncture works for me I am epileptic and had third-degree Burns because of a seizure I had long story but as you can imagine there was a massive scarring over a period of 15 treatments over 4 months the reduction and the coloration and complexion of the scars was reduced to a regular skin tone it's almost indistinguishable that they are scars currently
I found acupuncture completely relieved me from excess money in my wallet.
Its has worked for me when done with massage
I had acupuncture to treat my tourettes several years ago. It lessened the symptoms for a few days, but they returned. I'm pretty sure it was a placebo, but if the placebo works and doesn't cause any harm, is it really a placebo?
My acupuncturist is the only one whos helped me with my mental illness and lyme disease, she only uses 1 needle. Most acupuncturists use a lot because they have no idea how to pinpoint the exact area that connects all the symptoms together.
It depends where you go, i went to one before and it only made my digestion better. My current one has accomplished what countless doctors specialists and holistic practitioners couldn't.
My grandmother has a phd in acupuncture, and while she's my grandmother, and I may be biased, I believe the study of acupuncture has changed a lot. She has massive charts that show acupuncture points along the body, and while she hasn't really explained much regarding what it's "supposed to do" I believe it's along the lines of muscle relaxing. Also, Chinese medicine has a lot of other aspects to it, like cupping. Really, from what I gather it's no longer something that should be considered a "treatment", but rather an alternative to massages and other muscle relaxants. Even if it placebo, most of the treatments are extremely benign so I see no reason to care if people spend their money on it.
My grandmother makes a SHIT ton of cash from it, and these people are usually upper middle class bourgeois that are willing to pay thousands to tell all their friends they use "alternative" medicines.
Bruno Furtado
Then that's your fault for making ill conceived conclusions based on incomplete information. If you actually read you would see I don't believe in "qi" or the magical effects of acupuncture. Also, nice job telling me that you didn't finish reading, what, is that supposed to impress the TH-cam comment lurkers?
Oh there's absolutely nothing wrong with acupuncture, as long as people don't use as medicine, I would actual encourage its usage as you would use massage. Massage also has no medical benefits, but it feels great and it helps you relax because it feels great. Not sure how people would find acupuncture relaxing but if they do, I don't have a problem with that.
Ashley ASHLEYM
It's not really my cup of tea, it's slightly relaxing, but I can see how for others it might be more so or less so (especially if you have a fear of needles)
I find it weird and slightly offencive that you won't classify messages as a medical treatment, despite attesting to its relaxing qualities and the fact that it makes you 'feel great'. A massage is meant to help someone feel better, its meant to relax muscle tension, relieve stress. It actively does its job. If you have a sprained ankle and a massage helps treat it, I think it qualifies as a medical treatment.
It's not meant to treat a bullet wound, fight attacks from micro-organisms, or remove kidney stones you know.
There is no 'alternative' medicine, nor 'chinese' or 'western' medicine for that matter. There is medicine and there's unproven claims. That's it.
From what I've seen, acupuncture works for those who already believe it will work, or at least believe it has a chance of working. I.E. Placebo effect. That being said, with so many studies and none of them showing any _negative_ side-effects of acupuncture my opinion is: what's the harm? If it works for some people and they're not hurting anyone else, let them have at it.
That being said, there's still a small possibility that there's something neurological going on that we can't quite pin down. I've always interpreted the old "qi" idea as an insightful, albeit rudimentary, understanding of the bio-electric systems of the body.
I didnt believe in it even when i was taking acupuncture. I just did it because i had no other choice since western hospitals couldnt fix my shoulder for 3 years. Acupuncture worked for me even if i didnt believe in it.
Can you do the same thing for cyropractic work? I have been trying to find some real science out there but the waters are so muddied me to wade through.
From my own experience, its cured my athsma and headaches. Its almost painless but kinda sucks sitting with the needles in me
Just tried it today. I suffer from anxiety and was pretty sceptic. After being on meds with no result I decided to give it a shot. Placebo or not, it worked. Not sure if it will help permanently. Let's see
How do you do like a zillion studies to find out if something works, and still not know if it works or not?
Because acupuncture turned out to be very hard to double blind. Once they developed a needle where neither the person poking or the person being poked couldn't tell if the needle was actually piercing the skin, and going beyond that and then the person being poked not even knowing if the person doing the poking is a "trained acupuncturist" or just a guy off the street given 2 minutes of instruction, what was found was there was no difference between any combination of trials piercing skin vs. not piercing skin, acupuncturist vs. guy off the street and so on.
Then secondly... most of what is collected as data is simply asking a person "do you feel better".. this is such a subjective BS metric that it's effectually useless. Just the act of putting someone in a relaxing environment is going to make a person "feel better"... even if you don't do anything else to them. There's no easy quantifiable way to measure if a person actually "feels better".
The most robust studies using this double blinded technique clearly showed that there was no difference between piercing the skin and just poking it. That shows clearly that it does not work.
The most laughable thing I have ever heard is acupuncturist saying to this is "acupuncture is so powerful that the placebo of acupuncture still works." If it doesn't work beyond the placebo effect... you're just wasting your money on something that has no "real" clinical effect.
Just do anything that relaxes you and you'll get the same placebo effect.
Misha H True, but then how do we test any pain treatments? All pain medication is tested by asking if a person "feels better," because there's no scientific way (as far as I know) to measure pain.
That's why you can see a million studies and there still be debate about if something "works" or not. That was your original question. Any testing that at the end of the day simply asks a person "do you feel better" and they are simply self reporting the data.. is problematic. It's so subjective.. and you ahve people who might report they feel better.. just because they feel that their is pressure to say that they feel better.
Penn and Teller did a BS episode where they whole cloth made up a "sonic" treatment where they made people believe that some researchers were doing a study on a new treatment for aches and pains. They had the people come into a clinical setting.. had them lay down on a table and then had someone (just a member of their production team who they put a white lab coat on) take a tuning fork and simply move it up and down over top of their bodies (not making any contact). Then after a few minutes of total made up sham "treatment", they asked the person how they felt.
Wanna bet on what the outcome was? Most reported that they actually "felt better". Ok.. it's just one experiment to show the problem of "self reporting" something as loosie goosie as "feeling better", and the sample size might have been small. But it's pretty compelling evidence that if the criteria of the outcome of a study is to simply ask "do you feel better".. any positive results are dubious at best.
So if a totally made up on the spot "sham" treatment can show a "positive" result when simply asking people "do you feel better"... why should one not be extra skeptical of any claims of any other type of treatment that rests on those same type of self reported results of such a subjective measure as "do you feel better" done through poor studies (low sample size, not double blinded, no control group, etc)?
Taken as a whole, the pattern of the acupuncture literature follows one with which scientists are very familiar: the more tightly controlled the study the smaller the effect, and the best-controlled trials are negative. This pattern is highly predictive of a null-effect - that there is no actual effect from acupuncture.
what about the kinds that apply heat or current to the needle, in order to treat nerve damage, etc.?
I had a muscle knot in my back caused by damaged nerves after a fall - nothing worked to treat it and I had it for over a year. My GP finally tried acupuncture and within moments the muscles relaxed and and it never came back. It's my only experience of acupuncture so I can't really talk about it's pain relieving effects, but for misfiring nerves it worked 100% for me.
I'm currently getting acupunctured in the shoulder (various tears, strains, and inflammations) and in the left foot (neuroma) that traditional western medicine has not helped. 3 treatments so far, 2 to go, no improvement or change
If you still have not had any improvement, then try a different acupuncturist. We all treat in different ways, and maybe the one treating you have not gotten the diagnose right - or found the correct meridians to treat from :-)
@frostek - actually it is the same. The treatment obviously doens't work, and so the chosen meridians may be wrongly diagnosed. Hence try another
acupuncturist. If chosen correctly, there should be improvement within as little as 1 minute. I am treating like this on a daily basis, and if I don't get an
immediate response I will change my chosen meridians or points.
Please do more research before making a video on a subject.
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They did and they even mentioned a lot of sources from different journals
@@LadyIsTheChamp journalist?! OMG, this is just too funny.
@@cosmicgracess7059 Astrology and gem therapy are two bogus things.
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