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- (Main character sitting with a man in a bar/restaurant. University of Texas at Austin philosophy professor Louis Mackey.)
There are two kinds of sufferers in this world: those who suffer from a lack of life and those who suffer from an overabundance of life. I've always found myself in the second category. When you come to think of it, almost all human behavior and activity is not essentially any different from animal behavior. The most advanced technologies and craftsmanship bring us, at best, up to the super-chimpanzee level. Actually, the gap between, say, Plato or Nietzsche and the average human is greater than the gap between that chimpanzee and the average human. The realm of the real spirit, the true artist, the saint, the philosopher, is rarely achieved.
Why so few? Why is world history and evolution not stories of progress but rather this endless and futile addition of zeroes. No greater values have developed. Hell, the Greeks 3,000 years ago were just as advanced as we are. So what are these barriers that keep people from reaching anywhere near their real potential? The answer to that can be found in another question, and that's this: Which is the most universal human characteristic - fear or laziness? - บันเทิง
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I worked with Louis many years ago and for many years! Sometimes I like to listen to this and to Bob Solomon and just remember the good old days when these guys were marching around the office every day. What a place to spend 23 years of your life!
Professor Mackey was my favorite professor during the year I was a grad student at Texas. His class on Duns Scotus changed my life.
@M I don't know of practical lessons, though he has a salty tongue for a professor. He loathed the medieval philosopher William of Occam, and everytime he mentioned him, he'd say, "Occam, the son of a b...ch...."
what was the lecture about specifically? is there any recordings of it? would love to listen
This is literally the best conversation I've ever seen in a comments section.
I think laziness is just another form of fear. Laziness afflicts people who are afraid to live.
TRicKyDicKy93 I can't agree with that. Laziness as far as I concern is simply the lack of will, the lack of interest and the ignorance of consequences. Being afraid requires somehow to be conscious about consequences, but laziness is just a permanent state of non-interest.
yeah I agree, although I think more so a byproduct of fear
Yeah bro you're wrong, I actually agree with Syn Slonca
Syn Slonca disinterest and laziness are not synonymous...laziness, I think, is better characterized by unwillingness to act which is exactly what fear does - paralysis of inner drive/ambition
Radically Autonomous That, I must say is also another compelling point
the most memorable scene for me, quite inspiring
and full of horseshit. What the fuck, we do have better values now and we are way ahead of any civilisation before us both ethically and technologically.
+TheXV22 Yeah, and? Do you think we've peaked as a species, or do you not believe we can progress further?
Aran Knowles obviously we haven't peaked..
@@TheXV22 technologically definitely, but are you sure ethically?
@@k.more1995 The is an unfair and cruel place but we did improve for sure. For example, we at least try not to be racist in public. Back in the day, that was just the expected norm. We label war crimes as bad even tho they're still commonplace, but back in the day it was pretty much a given to e.g. rape women in conquered land. I think it's easy to find more examples
It's also easy to point at obviously bad events and claims humans are still trash so that you feel superior. You may be ethically superior to most people, but that's not the point. The point is have we improved overall.
Richard Linklater and Guy Ritchie Collab would give me a heart attack on the spot. Waking life and Revolver are as constant as change.
I've just been trying to analyze the scene itself a couple of times over and I find that the end bit after the closing question is quite symbolic in itself. How the camera moves from a shot of the main character with an empty glass next to him to the closing shot of a full drink and the note pad which reads "Great American Novel". Researching that I found that a Great American Novel is essentially one that expresses a uniquely American experience. What's interesting is that the few novels that meet the full criteria of a GAN can only consistently be found in high school English reading lists which (as my hypothesis) are used to lay down some fundamental American ways and belief systems of how things are and how they're done. On a "universal" level I'd say this can be applied in any culture with the same effect of limiting the individuals to thinking a certain way about their world. Do we necessarily fear more than we are lazy? We do not need to take the cookie cutter image of the world that is given to us, but we rarely refuse...
I also noticed this message written at the end of the scene and I was thinking about it, your consideration really helped my thoughts. The human being naturally tends to accept and conform to what is already ready, without daring to spend so much energy to do more than that
This scene was inspired by a segment in Friedrich Nietzsche's book 'Untimely Meditations'.
gem
one of my favorite scenes from my favorite movie.
Literally was just jamming to Chopin in the background the whole time lmao
When you have fear to lost your life, there is not laziness that matters to you, there is no reason to stop fighting for your life
Unfortunately I feel the pain… the ever search for making contact w the ones that understand wears thin, but hope dies last. It’s all within, but the ego doesn’t feel, just understands.
What about fearziness?
I’d say the answer is both, people are too scared to make the jump(Fear), and when they know they can make the jump they come up with excuses not to and remain in that comfort zone(Laziness)
We are moved by fear but we are lazy to conserve energy.
It's no mistake, the universe doesn't make mistakes, it just is.
Whatever works stays and whatever doesn't goes away.
It puts you into a state where nothing matters in a good way. You truly don't give a shit about anything and you're just happy as fuck as a result, because nothing matters. Nothing matters, nothing means anything, there's nothing to do, there's no point, there's no goal but there's also no boredom, there's no negative meanings attached to the meaninglessness, it's just perfectly meaningless and it's awesome. You're basically just like sitting like a cat on a windowsill enjoying whatever experience is before it, just being and it feels amazing. 🦄
This is one of my favorite scenes in this wonderful movie. The dialogue was actually going to be in "Slacker", and is in the deleted scenes segment of the DVD and Blu-Ray Criterion release.
Laziness. Laziness is the absence of action; it's THE natural state without the input of energy (let alone intentionally applied energy of the appropriate type and amount at the appropriate time to produce any specific result). It's what we are/are doing when we 'aren't doing anything'. Fear is primordial, it's primitive and base, but not so universal and suiting the definition as well as laziness. It's a logical fallacy though; specifically a false dichotomy. Laziness is itself a perspective, requiring another fixed point to reference to be established itself. Indicating there must be AT LEAST one more universal human trait beneath fear - I would argue desire which unmet or challenged produces fear. Fear is the known inability to satisfy a specific desire. Whether safety, or lack of pain, to not have something taken or imposed, to not be embarrassed or ashamed, etc. Even desire has an underlying precedent of an understanding of something being able to stay good or be better than it is; which is hope.
Thank you for uploading this clip!
lack of life, i know that feeling
Human progression is basically the result of a tiny minority of geniuses who drag the dead weight of the seven billion along to a more advanced world.
But now, the other question is: how many geniuses are actually out there? How much talent is out there that we are not utilising because of societal problems, poor schooling systems, global inequality etc? If we can sort out the pettiness of human squabbles, maybe our virtues can flourish. But, as is stated in the film, humanity has a tendency to regress back to stupidity and conflict.
i am the tiny minority genius and i am going to teach ppl what they are capable and whats really going on..i believe the person in the story is me. it describes my life and looks like me too.
Savanna P lol
Savanna P im sorry but I think I am the actual tiny minority genius in the story, it looks like me and smells like me too. I always was told it was my duty to put humanity on my shoulders and revel the truth
Perhaps Louis Mackey is asking a rhetorical question. Maybe it's even a trick question just to get us thinking about the road blocks we build that get in the way of reaching our full potential.
I think the whole movie is full of these things, these trick questions. Nothing anyone says in this movie has to be correct or even terrifically insightful, but follow along with what's being said and your brain will go to interesting places it wouldn't usually go @_@
@@brandonthesteele the mere intention for a lot of directors in movies, rather than give you a lesson they want to trigger your curiosity and mind into new directions beyond of what's good or bad
I watched the whole movie while on acid and boy did it change me
For the better?
I'm definitely suffering from a lack of life 😞
Im in the first category and hate it... I think I will look back on my life and one point and realize I haven't ever lived... just "existed"
Jow old are you?
You are brave.
so what are you doing to change this narrative?
is it fear or laziness?
@@GB-rx7qx It is funny how technology works alright... wasnt it for the automatic response function, for the algorythm of youtube that periodically scans and checks comments for responses and then gives you a tiny red dot on the bell, I would not have realized for probably years that someone responded to a comment on a youtube videoI made over a year ago. Fascinating, a technology that makes us connect over borders, languages and thousands of kilometres, yet I feel in this day and age we are disconnected like never before in the history of the human race, also thanks to technology to no small part.
To answer your first question: At the moment, I am doing nothing. My sorry ass that is jobless since February tried to apply, tried to learn and look into other options for a career and did online courses, now I am back in a regressive phase where I am asking myself why I am even doing it and trying to better myself.I resorted to slurp the days away with mainly video games (try Vampire Bloodlines, it is a flawed masterpiece, but has such well written characters) and reading and binging comedy series, just to get the mind off of a shit situation in the middle of a global pandemic. In short: reality escapism. At the same time, people go on the streets to fight racism, others go out and protest against these measures, arguing their freedom gets taken away. If I wouldnt know better I would say that real life has become the satire show, while comedians are the sane ones. Now you have two types of people: Those that rise to the challenge in the face of adversity and those that try to get by as good as they can, which mostly consists of trying to avoid trouble or get out of it with the least amount of work and danger possible. I am definitely in that latter category. Which brings me to your second question. I think it is both, fear and laziness. Now fear is a natural reaction for most humans, facing the unknown. Laziness is the state of mind you are in after knowing what is good for you and consciously deciding against it. And I think that is worse than fear. Now what a lot of people have or need in life is purpose. And I think that is what I am fundamentally lacking right now. It is weird, like I said, it doesnt feel like living, just existing.
@@Luemm3l I'm down to chat with you. I think you are more interesting than what you give yourself credit for
Amazing! Love this movie
Louis Mackey also had a big impact on Rick Roderick.
It's actually fear or greed but remember guys...Greed is Good
The most universal human characteristic is neither fear nor laziness. It’s the non-choice of having to work in the service of someone else’s interests, or dying brutally. How many Einsteins die of a preventable injury while working in a coal mine as a child? How many Mozarts have died of leprosy in the streets of India, for no reason other than poverty?
so no one born with preventable disease acheived anything? No one in poverty never amounted to anything?
@@LukeMaff when did I say that?
Think of it this way: for every person who overcomes preventable illness despite poor access to medical care, and then achieves greatness, how many others in the same situation just died instead?
There was a case in India where a kid built a home made helicopter but sadly died due to lack of safety. If he is in a better place, his intelligence would utilize better.
I like to add a third human characteristic which is probably the root of chronic laziness. That third characteristic is apathy. While fear is the result of too much concern, apathy is the complete opposite.
Apathy can be the result of too much concern for things that you aren't able to materially affect or impact substantive change upon.
@@duketogo2616 I'd argue love is the opposite of fear. Selfishness vs selflessness.
Damn. I learned the basics about philosophy and this type of topic. This is really intresting.
Eh. I think what he asked was answered by another guy in the movie, and he said there's kind of like a dramatic increase of how we are "evolving". I think fear and laziness is slowing us down but it's not stopping us from evolving. I think it's more important to do rather than to continue contemplating ideas though.
I really liked this part though
Choosing ignorance equates to laziness. "I don't know how to do what i want to do" "if you want to achieve it bad enough you will figure it out". "what if nobody knows?" "Poe died unrealized. Was his impact insignificant?"
good quotes
The increasing superficiality of modern scientific and philosophic
thought is its persistent drift towards materialism.The body of philosophy has been broken up into numerous "isms" more or less antagonistic, which have become so concerned with the effort to disprove each other’s fallacies that the sublimer issues of divine order and human destiny have suffered deplorable neglect. The ideal function of philosophy is to serve as the stabilizing influence in human thought. By virtue of its intrinsic nature it should prevent man from ever establishing unreasonable codes of life.
Philosophy bestows life in that it reveals the dignity and purpose of living. Materiality
bestows death in that it benumbs or clouds those faculties of the human soul which should be responsive to the enlivening impulses of creative thought and ennobling virtue.
How inferior to these standards of remote days are the laws by which we live in the 21st century! Today, man, a sublime creature with infinite capacity for self-improvement, in an effort to be true to false standards, turns from his birthright of understanding - without realizing the consequences - and plunges into the maelstrom of material illusion. The precious span of his earthly years he devotes to the pathetically futile effort to establish himself as an enduring power in a realm of unenduring things.
OUR EGOS HAVE TAKEN OVER!!
+Postmodern M Materialism may not actually exist according to Howard Bloom. What do you think? watch?v=4RP7Sa__yZg
+Postmodern I agree. Some people want to figure it out but some people just want to help figure it out. Putting your knowledge out there, expressing it into words into the universe can come from many different motives. Its good to put our thought and knowledge out there though, because its all connected.
i believe these barriers can be broken through self exploration,psychedelics and many other ways. people just aren't interested in evolving. To the mass majority it's about having enough money to survive or having the big house and nice lawn with a fancy sports car. i don't get it. i never did.
"This is the best scene in the movie..."
"Dude, you say that like, every 9 minutes... "
"Shhhh! This next scene is probably the best scene in the movie. You gotta pay attention..."
"You've said that about 4 other scenes already."
Hahaha me with ma friend watching this
If you have to remind them to focus they did not take a large enough dose
I showed this film to girls in college to impress them... considering it never got me laid I suppose they were just super chimpanzees and I'm Nietzsche...
... or maybe, I'm the super chimpanzee and they were Nietzsche.......................
"Fear & Love" I think are the two driving forces.
"there's other things that need to be taken into account here, like the entire spectrum of human emotion!"
Why have so many not experienced either then
Donnie darko
"Fear & Loathing" are two forces driving to Las Vegas.
The old man assumes he has free will and that he achieved success because of his genius. He forgets dumb luck, being at the right place at the right time and the environment and time and place his parents fucked. The ego loves go polish its mirror. Then the ego sees only itself and calls the universe lazy!
The old man should chill out and enjoy his millions and call the universe a lottery with luck here and there and relax and not get shot.
I have many very rich relatives. They made money because their business is in a very good spot etc. I wouldn't say they are super stimulated people. They are even a bit lazy themselves but their takeaway business is mad busy and the staff do most of the work anyway.
Life is complicated and can't be boxed in a duality of fear and laziness.
Now this right here, is a short. Props to the director. Reminds me a bit of “Waking Life”
It is waking life! haha
@@airbornepizza lol hey you’re right. I’m tripping!
@@trevorramos8616😂 no worries. It's such a great movie. I loaned it to my younger brother yesterday.
In a round about way, Lamat brought me here.
I get the feeling he's trying to say the answer is laziness but I think it's fear.
+Redstar2613 Why do you think so? I'm really interested because I don't know.
+Merlin Brennt If you think about it humanity in general is not really that lazy. However the people in general is in a more fear based frequency from all the bad things we see on the news, in all kinds of entertainment, real life events, people are struggling to get by. Society has most of us in an ego based state of mind, in survival mode.
Fear = ignorance
Love = care
As he just said: the realm of the true spirit is rarely achieved. I think in order for you to achieve the realm of the true spirit and manifest things from the spirit into your life you'll actually have to get in contact with your spirit. Aline yourself with it. From then on you'll be able to dig into your true potential.
Its a rethorical question
ALWYAS A PLEASURE SINCE 15 YEARS AGO. FEAR OR LAZINESS? NEXT SCENE IS THE CHAMPANCE SCENE
laziness is a product of what humans have created though. If I had a choice, I would work hard every day so I could achieve my goals. BUT in order to achieve my goals i have to go through a series of events such as college in order to be accepted. In being put in this environment, I don't have the choice or access to do what I actually am willing to do. and when that happens I think we decide to just be lazy. he dwindles our obstacles down to laziness and fear when in fact there is so many more factors that affect it. albeit If i was fearless, I could try and achieve my goals more cut throat. without going to college. probably doing illegal things. but you see law and morals also limit us. something that separates us from animals.
+dree R also humans are much more lazier than past generations. I have to isolate myself from my computer and phone just to get simple tasks done. we all want to be connected but what we need is to be disconnected. for advancement.
Wow what a word
so different view on evolution and progress from professor Eamonn Healy, which had a scene earlier in the film
Both are a choice. Make a decision.
only few human can achieved such level of being " highest potential"...i think both characteristic ceased most us to reach our true potential...few people that has "brilliant mind" or "revolutionary idea" hurdle these things but they surpassed it
Achieving one's "potential" is a social construct. There is no actual analogue of the concept.
But that's what he states
Are you afraid or your social construct to not take action or are u just lazy and will conform to it.
Potential is actually a biological and physical fact. It’s a label/word for for a physical phenomenon. When you wind up a toy, it stores potential energy, when you let it go, it releases that potential energy and has a physical effect on the world whether that’s knocking things over or continuing the some kind of Ruth Goldberg machine. When you see a baby, it grows into an adult. You know it will act upon this world, it has potential energy. If it acts ineffectively, it will waste its peontial energy or even use it in a negative effect. If it acts the best it possibly could, it will have used its potential energy effectively.
No read heidegger
why try to accomplish anything when everything becomes dust in the wind should be the bigger question.
I think its fear to see what the men can do, what are the real bounderies of progress , wheter we reach to the point of greatness or self destructiion
I personally have met some truly brilliant minds...
I do mean truly...but a very few. Three actually.
I make no claim to them being anything like another...yet this stirs up a question...
Perhaps they become buried, in the ever growing populous... Could such a thing be possible..??
What's that song in the background
Chopin nocturne op:9 no:2
Is it fear or laziness? It comes down to two things. Could it be that the slowing of evolution implies we as a whole, are just getting lazier? And that our current inability to keep up with it has left us to resort to the cold "futile" advancement of technology and not much else?
Or is it fear that is inhibiting our progress of evolution? Are the barriers that keep us from reaching our true potential bigger than they've ever been before, and therefore bringing to surface the invoking fear that comes with these barriers, in which the human race is increasingly struggling to overcome? absurdly interesting . . .
If you look at human evolution it would seem that the only thing that really set us apart from other animals and chimps was our ability to use tools. So would further human evolution be to create more advanced and more complicated tools to make our existence easier OR to better our own bodies and minds and evolve into a system where we are no longer as reliant on mechanics and tools? We believe we are greatly smarter than other animals as a species but really the only thing we have that separates us is writing and machines.... are these very machines that allow our way of life to survive also halting our physical evolution into more capable beings........ the world may never know.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a rhetorical question? In my opinion Linklater is suggesting that humans don't achieve their maximum potential because we are universally lazy and we excuse our own lack of achievements by listing our fears. Why so few achievers? Because we accept fear as an excuse, which may simply be a guise for laziness. I like this interpretation because it becomes almost a call to action. What have you wanted to do that you let fear stop you from doing? And think again, is it really fear that is holding you back? Or is it laziness? I think if I'm going to pin my lack of achievement on some trait it would be laziness, and I don't think my predicament is unique. Recognizing that you cannot accept fear as an excuse and that laziness is your single barrier to achieving your maximum potential is a recipe for making leaps in your own self. You may not be the next Aristotle, but are you achieving as much as you could?
Andrew Douventzidis I like your thought, Andrew. However, are you suggesting that this is scripted (by Linklater)?
I assumed this was Mackey's own opinion, and his words.
+Andrew Douventzidis What do you think the point of identifying a rhetorical question as such and then answering it for yourself is exactly?
Why is evolution not a story of progress? I think the fear and laziness is off point. His answer is in his question. Evolution isnt 'trying' to progress. And we are a species that wouldn't be here without fear. But nature also loves and rewards bravery. Evolution is based in variation. So all the variation in conditions, environments, happenstance are going to lead to certain outcomes. Have the exact same person born in 1,000 different places, and you will get almost as many different outcomes as far as how their life unfolds. But the reasons we are to afraid or lazy are just as mysterious as our reasons for striving for achievements.
ummm I love this movie, however this scene really misses the mark. The avg human can use tools far beyond the most advanced Chimp's mind. not a single Greek from 3k years ago would know how to use tech from 2001. Link does however get it right with the idea that saints and heroes are few and far between... ofc that is how saints and heroes work...
Sounds just like my old man.....
if it's laziness then why doesn't he plunge us into the cyberpunk future?
Being lazy has nothing to do with, not being intelligent enough
would be interesting to hear what he means by "average human"?
Probably the comparatively unthinking. The countless Ivan Illyches that populate the world. The everyman who goes through his life and dies with minimal disruption. It's an intuitive concept but hard to narrowly define.
Lol
so which is it fear or laziness?
a honest question no troll intended
This statement is posed as a question to highlight the fact that these two decidedly negative characteristics are clearly the most likely to be universal among humans. It is a rhetorical question, the potential answer to which is less important than the validity of the question itself. In other words: If you get down to it, most of us are afraid to take the next step or too lazy to go through with it; either way, we're mostly just super chimps.
Matthew Vreeland i get it now thank you
I think it's a paralysing fear in the face of life itself: an existenstential one. The laziness to my mind is our default setting always to be overcome always to be conquered. They are both in equal measure responsible for the lack of spiritual and intellectual evolution of the race.
The dichotomy is false. The foundation for the question is based on the unwarranted presupposition concerning the gap between animals, humans and genius humans. Were the gap as described the case, only the abolishment of laziness or fear would be needed to rescue us from our mere super-chimpanzee mode of being. Very many geniuses are unafraid or hard working and yet deemed not worthy of the same honor we give to Newton and Picasso.
I consider it more likely that we a) have certain tendencies to view certain types of people as being predisposed to genius and so create the world around them (consciously or unconsciously) to bring about confirmation of our agreed upon supposition, b) dismiss acts of pure genius as commonplace because of our collective inability to recognize and support genius, especially when it arises in the field where the purported super intelligent individual is likely to be viewed as our competition.
I wish this movie had included a Jordan B. Peterson character also😃
The answer is easy... Lazyness obviously.
+Mauro Gonzalez Is it? What is laziness? What is the cause of laziness? Maybe laziness is nothing more than fear of putting effort into doing something and/or fear of failure? And even fear of success. It may sound silly but paradoxically a lot of people are subconsciously fearing the success because they feel they do not deserve it, they're not good enough, etc. - in other words low self-esteem, a very common problem for a person living in modern times, constantly bombarded with suggestions of inadequacy through endless stream of advertisement.
Why no captions? Can't exactly read lips on this weird animation...
(Main character sitting with a man in a bar/restaurant. University of Texas at Austin philosophy professor Louis Mackey.)
There are two kinds of sufferers in this world: those who suffer from a lack of life and those who suffer from an overabundance of life. I've always found myself in the second category. When you come to think of it, almost all human behavior and activity is not essentially any different from animal behavior. The most advanced technologies and craftsmanship bring us, at best, up to the super-chimpanzee level. Actually, the gap between, say, Plato or Nietzsche and the average human is greater than the gap between that chimpanzee and the average human. The realm of the real spirit, the true artist, the saint, the philosopher, is rarely achieved.
Why so few? Why is world history and evolution not stories of progress but rather this endless and futile addition of zeroes. No greater values have developed. Hell, the Greeks 3,000 years ago were just as advanced as we are. So what are these barriers that keep people from reaching anywhere near their real potential? The answer to that can be found in another question, and that's this: Which is the most universal human characteristic - fear or laziness?
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I reject virtually all of the points he made here. Utterly unconvincing.
I have to disagree. Because humans are born into language (see Lacan) we are very different from chimpanjees. Animals don't have language. Therefore they obey only to their pleasure. But humans are born with and into language that brings with it social norms and more importantly parental commands. So, humans have to compromise between their pleasure and their language. We are essensially split animals. You can't get rid of language. You are always related in some way, with symbols. So it is really harsh and suprising-coming from a philosopher- to say that humanity is an endless number of zeros. But then again, it is not so suprising. If you listen carefully, you will realise that this intellectual measures man with the signifier saint, artist etc. Its pretty vague but you get the picture.He wants man to be something uber!!! However if you study philosophy you shall see that this is an ad hoc argument. You can't define extraordinary. He should remain in the useful thought of the importance of critical thinking and creativity.
+Γιώργος Βασιλάκης We use language to align others to our point of view or express misunderstanding. If there was no such thing as disagreement between us we would have no need to speak or write. Most of the language we express is concerned with either undoing or exploiting misunderstandings and disagreements that are often the result of the impact of language itself on creating infinite threads of misunderstandings and disagreements.
I agree with you but he understated his position. He didn't clarify why he thinks humanity is an "endless number of zeros" which is a serious accusation.
+Γιώργος Βασιλάκης I would say the average human is just a more complex animal. Our language is "just" a more complex version of the noises animals make. (I know it's a little exaggerated, but you see my point)
You get these misunderstandings out of the tension between the universal of language and the particular of the speaker (as individual). For a language to be language proper, it must always be somebody else's language (as Cavell would have put it) and misunderstanding arises because the language is still distorted by the individuality of the speaker himself (through idiosyncrasies, unconscious processes, private language and so on). Ego arises thus from a gap, a shortcoming, or rupture within the field of language you are "thrown" into. OP is correct in pointing out that it is important to stress our thrownness into language, since only within this field of public discourse can the individual arise.
+oskar "snoski" lindblom very well put. Just to make my self clear, i only accused the person in the video about the so called shortcomings in humanity. Maybe there is a gap between my opinion and his yet if there is indeed such a shortcoming we should struggle to listen one another when possible and not accuse each other. However there are times where tragedy arises, because of the limitations of language proper.
This scene is a perfect illustration of man worshipping himself.
The scene is taken from Nietzsche's The Gay Science.
neeah..:)
Do you know from what part? @moesypittounikos
lol
clean your room!
Fear of what?
I think just fear in general; nothing in particular. The human act of fearing.
being laughed at, judged, failing, being wrong, misrepresenting...etc
"[...] what are these barriers that keep people from reaching anywhere near their real potential? [...] fear or laziness?"
+iUhMazexD Fear of success. Fear of failure. Fear of discomfort as the price for effort. Laziness is derived from fear. It is a symptom.
+Nic M. Is it? I mean, surely in some cases being lazy stems from fear, but, say, when I am too lazy to do my homework, I dont think it is because I fear the homework, I mean, I just _am_ lazy. So I think there is a difference between lazyness and fear. Maybe fear and lazyness both stem from the more general "discomfort". Fear prevents you from discomfortable situations as for instance being killed by a bear, and lazyness prevents you from the discomfortable situation when working.
So he basically thinks that the intellectual gap between two humans is greater than the intellectual gap between a human and a non-human...
This is probably the most bullshit part of the film lol. It is true that humans are animals, however you have to take into account the following:
Humans are the only scientific animal,
the only philosophical animal,
the only religious animal,
the only rational animal,
the only animal with a sense of humor,
and, most importantly, the only potential animal (no pre-determined nature).
We are qualitatively superior to all other life on this planet; that is a simple fact.
This movie sucked!!!
I watched it on lsd 12 years ago thought it was great. I think thats kind of the point with this movie. Its meant to be trippy and stimulate you philosophically which you have to be in the right mindset for
THE HUMAN spirit is the most universal thing.....that is what separates us from a chimp, old man!!!....read your bible....!! A chimp is not on our level, thank you!
This is literally the best conversation I've ever seen in a comments section.