Lol so you're implying you have the same political stances as Hu Jintao, a dengist who strengthened the power of corporations in China? I wouldn't expect anyone in this comment thread to look into Chinese economic policy anyways.
@oldmanwitherspoon yes let's have another color revolution resulting in untold amounts of bloodshed so China can adopt an even more capitalist economy.. sounds good to me!
I was living in HK during President Hu’s tenure and I’ll say that he never forced HK into whatever it is right now. I always have respect for him. It’s quite a shock for me to see what has become of him. He looks like he aged 20 years in the past 5 years
It is both sickening and sad to see the direction China has been taking under Xi. There are other concerning authoritarian trends in the world, but Xi is now the scariest after watching russia’s slow collapse.
@@jamesrecknor6752 Yeah, he didnt have enough leverage back then. Now, with enough leverage...and stupidity of those uni students, HK govt could clamp down on those traitors, hard. Hilairous, really...
Problem is Xi passed a new law which granted him almost absolute power. He is gonna be in power for a very long time just like Putin, almost until the end of his life. Very sad. The people of China desperately wanted a new leader who might be just like XI predecessor, someone more open minded. China has a such a good potential, it’s crazy how large part of the population lives in poverty.
This is why, in authoritarian political systems, you can never afford to lose power. If you're not the one doing the purging, you're at risk of getting purged. Especially if you're a significant figure who does not have the present leader to thank for his career.
@BOHICA sure, but it's also a pet move of paranoiac dictators and it's part of the very DNA of this regime, starting with Mao. There is, if you will, something uniquely Chinese about this, even among the trend for dictatorial purges. Just like there may be some similarities between the concepts of "saving face" and "guanxi" between Chinese and other cultures, nevertheless, they are pivotal concepts in that particular culture. Because saving face is even more important than, say, in a culture which is less insistent on such appearances, an act of deliberate humiliation speaks volumes. Yes, power relations have always existed among humans but Hu wasn't exactly clubbed over the head; he was treated as though he had no status and the public should be made aware that he was shown to be discarded as though his presence was beyond meaningless. This is fairly mild as far as The Purge goes, but it's very specific power play in a country that has its own power plays stretching back thousands of years to the Warring States period and Qin Shihuang. Not everyone would choose to display their contempt for a previous ruler in quite this way. Just saying.
"He was not feeling well... Now, he is much better." Absolutely bonechilling. An obvious Orwellian euphemism to be interpreted either at face value or as a warning, depending on whose ears it's intended for.
One of the saddest moment of my life, as I grow up and went to college during the Hu era with so much hope and optimism toward this country's future. Bit by bit, it was shredded in the last ten years.
Wtf you taking about, China is about to 10x the GDP of the US in 5 or so years and they are systematically eliminating poverty. Like im no fan of china because I'm an anarchist but for y'all this is literally how u would define success for the Hu era.
@@kingandgod you people should stop threaten other, you European are worst behind the mask, problem all platform is owned by those who all by means want to hold economic grip with any means, the short era of European has come to end. Try hard and still u all lose.
As a communist supporter, I must say you capitalist/democracy lovers always like to speculate. You always say things like "something bad is happening". Yeah, what's happening that's bad is western media being allowed to report on matters, when all western media is anti communist and anti socialist. Long live the communist party ☭
@@Oo27254 If he was too elderly and ill to participate, they could have disallowed him to join them in the conference. They could have made the exact same statement to explain his absence. The point is that this was deliberate, it was done in front of everyone on camera, and it was a message. The empty chair was a message. The entire conference staring straight ahead was a message. Nobody turned to ask what was happening to ask about his welfare or turn and smile and nod politely to him with a kind word? Nope. This was a message. There are other ways to remove someone from their position. This was a deliberate public humiliation to communicate total control.
@Jericho Kilmanja omg.. the joke flew right over your smooth brain lmao. Unlikely they’re a bot, but they’re joking about how an 80yr old man had to be reminded that he was not feeling well due to ‘bad memory’. They’re clearly mocking the Chinese gov. And saying it was staged.. how did you miss the joke 😂
@Jericho Kilmanja Basically saying everything in the Chinese gov. Is ‘staged’ as Hu ‘needed’ assistants to tell him he’s feeling unwell and that he needed to go, and that he forgot due to ‘bad memory’ If you still don’t get the joke.. just… ure kinda hopeless 😂
[redacted] [redacted], your sarcastic comment is very funny. By the way, as I am sure you already know, the correct grammar should be "an 80-yr-old man".
It's publicly a embarrasing moment for Xi as well to have not having things run smoothly in such events. I don't think he would plan something like that.
There’s a Chinese parable about how the father and son carried the grandpa to remote mountain 🏔️ to desert him. When the father was going to throw away the carriage, the son said pls don’t I’ll save it for your turn. What goes around comes around 😂
Pooh wanted him out because he was going to vote against changing their constitution since Pooh broke the deal he had with Hu and kicked all of Hu’s people out of the Politburo. Notice how they didn’t want him to look at the contents in the red folder thus discovering Pooh’s duplicity
@Illuminator And from the history we know how far can you get when you rule with terror. Its only matter of time until something happens in China. Might be a bit longer but its inevitable.
The most chilling fact is in the full video when Hu Jintao is about to get escorted out of his chair, to his left, Li Zhanshu wanted to help the old man as any normal human being would, Mr. Li got up halfway to try to help Hu Jintao get out of his chair, but to Mr. Li's left Wang Huning pulled on Mr. Li's jacket telling him to sit back down, don't draw anymore attention to yourself, all the while Present Xi Jinping is making a sour facial expression. Mr. Li awkwardly sat back down, gathered the documents infront of Hu Jintao and looked like he whispered "Don't look at it, Don't look at it", Mr. Wang also looked like he whispered the same words. As Hu Jintao gets escorted away, no one dared to make any eye contact or glanced his way. Hu Jintao advocated political reform, brought forth China's 10 years of golden period, forged a strong relationship with the West, and this is how his story ends.
I always felt bad for Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao. Their like HEROES for the western world. They brought forth a powerful and prosperous China, that actually felt like a dependable ally with the west. Even though a lot of Americans hated the lack of manufacturing jobs, people liked China regardless. XiJinping really just took over and told these others to fuck off. Now XiJinping is warmongering with the west and has seen the worst economic period in recent Chinese history. Its genuinely sad.
@@ursamajor7468 But we really need to dig the political implication further. i think by the gesture and lips movement we can approximate the general feng shui of the room. From a process of elimination of the possible conversation they are having, we can almost be sure that they were indeed speaking mandarin.
Thank you for just redefining what I was saying in another post Daryl because this is basically what this is communism is just basically systematic Mafia hell even the mafia from Italy treats their people 10 times more better than what communist treat their people communism is just a system of enslavement we're all earn slaved and only the few truly reap the rewards of this system and that's its leaders
I was raised in a country with a similar authoritarian system where the same ruling party has factions that work against each other and no one trusts anyone, all of a sudden somebody is kicked out or dies mysteriously
@@artificialanimeuniverse5063 could be yugoslavia (like me) even though when people "disappeared" here, they were not dead, they would be inprisoned in concentration camps, which worked more like prisons than labor camps, not as harsh, yet its the same shit in the end, you cant speak im glad its over now, wouldnt never like it to go the way it was we still feel the corruption and consequences today, even 30 years after the split
Reminds me when Saddam Hussein had a large party meeting (there’s a video online in black and white) and told the crowd there were traitors among them- called them out, had them led out, and as they were pledging alliance to Saddam (mostly to save themselves), they were escorted outside to be shot. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Evil men may momentarily gain the upper hand, but never prevail in the end. Because sooner or later, evil men are bound to do evil against each other which results in their downfall.
Oh for gods sake it's obviously so pathetically orchestrated. This was basically a press release shouting "China is weak and corrupt, and here is an example".
Well western media was the one who shot the footage, they could NOT have controlled what they did with it. At least not fast enough to prevent it from going viral. I don't think this is a factor, more like they planned for it to happen.
Thank you BBC for describing those images we can perfectly see. Thank you also for giving explanations as to why it is very hard to read that moment, ultimately telling us that you don't know for sure because it is not possible to know for sure. Great analysis, no loss of time here.
They didn't even address the fact that the guy sitting to the right started to stand up in respect but was low key pulled down by the guy sitting to the right of him. That makes it even less speculative.
That was Li Zhanshu.... Not that there are many "good" people in the CCP. But individual's like him are definitely a lesser evil, compared to Xi Jinping. Sincere question.... How much do you know about China?
@@tea-chip-cookies Yup, i don’t know why this person is spreading misinformation, the guy seated to his right did not help, but instigated things, he was the one to initially pull the folder away from Huo.
How do things amount to this? Ruling by fear and intimidation, to the point of publicly ousting a previous leader and everyone else is stoic and unmoved? I am grateful to live somewhere where politics is not like this. Leadership should not be afforded this kind of power, should not be able to oppress and silence opposition in this way. And leaders should have term limits - it feels like cementing power over a long time is synonymous with corruption and dictatorship.
Stunning to watch! Many TV shows try to write scripts with tense scene's that emulate this situation, but to actually see it in real life is a little frightening.
@@SusanKay- Holy tomato, is that what happened? Is his uncle okay, you know, since their tech is trash? Seriously, though, that's just insanity. It's a Twilight Zone episode where the dictator looks into this mirror and "sees" enemies and betrayal everywhere, then starts to kill off everyone close to him -- family, friends, people who helped him get to the top, enemies, nobodies, everyone... until he went...insane
Yeah, very frightening indeed. I mean hes 80 years old and probably not feeling good? Suffering dementia? Well, at least we are not seeing him shaking hand with invisible man. Thatd be too embarrassing.
@Simulation L the CCP make examples of people for sure, and always have. Many have suffered at their hands in this way, and still do. But where a former leader or party insider is concerned, the power play is on a different level.
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
Let me quote a quote of an Old Sage "You Start with Nothing,Then You Get Everything, Next comes the phase When You Lose Everything ! Transientness of Time & Life" An Old Sage "Abu Soqrat".
The folder contained the candidate list for new officials. Hu was given a list with different names from everyone else's which is why he kept reaching for someone else's list to confirm and is also why he looked confused throughout the whole video.
Is it possible he's just old so that's why he had to be escorted in, and escorted out to take a rest and then later came back. And perhaps that might also be the reason he looks dazed the whole time.
@@metaverseplayer Actually, every four years we get the chance to rid ourselves of whoever is in power - and in between we can speak out through tge media - is it that same in China or Russia? Who is the leader of the opposition in either of these countries?
@@metaverseplayer You dont need to be politically significant LOL. All you have to do is talk with family or friends about how your government is shit and you will be arrested lmfao. That's china and russia for you
3:24 you cut off one of the most important sections of Hu Jintao's reaction to Xi and Li. 1. Hu talks to Xi, and Xi nods his head saying "hao hao=yes, okay", that means there was a deal, and Xi pretends to agree; and then 2. Hu taps on Li's shoulder in a concern and deep love, whatever you interpret into that direction. Hu supports Li, communist youth league. *There are 2 major groups of Chinese Communist Party: *One is like Xi whose father is the founder of the party who fought and founded PRC, thinks he owns the whole country. This group of the people are the 2nd generation and offspring of CCP founders who have the government official's jobs because of their relationship, not because of their talent. Mao's grandson is also in this scenario. *The other group of people are the ordinary citizens who have no strong background and were permitted to the party because of their talent. **One group, like Xi, think they are orthodoxy, have power with no talent to run the country, and the other group have ability, higher education, open-minded and humanity . Hu wants the balance to run the country, yet Xi wants everybody listening to his order. We all know it's The Emperor's New Clothes. Like Putin, surrounds with no truth voice and makes wrong judgement and decision, very dangerous.
You forget Toad and his gang. Xi was supposed to be on the side of the Communist Youth League. He pretended to play along to get Hu’s support. Now, there are 3 factions in CCP. Toad’s, Xi’s and Hu’s. But I think Hu’s gang is being eliminated.
The open minded faction you are talking about are the more liberal minded elements of the CCP, who also have strong inclinations towards the US. Xi is purging the ranks of the pro US elements and establishing a goverment for a ramp up in the confrontation with America. Xi represents the more nationalistic elements of the CCP who are wanting to step up their game in the international arena beginning with Taiwan. The US has never seen anything as what is starting to come its way.
this just shows that China is now the most powerful monarchy in the world with capitalistic and chinese traits.....why is the west so plainly jealous and upset?i dont get it......China never claimed to be a democracy,it has never been, that democratic China died along with Chang kai shek and Taiwan, if US and the west insist on recognising Taiwan as a soverignty,then it must acknowledge dictatorship China and her right to exist too. has america forgotten her own constitution? the inalienable right for any sovereign nation to exist,regardless of their ideology,religion,affliation or this is the greatest victory and blow against the west and western ideology, China is proof that a dictatorship can rise from nothing and be incredibly successful too,why wouldnt it be?after all human history is littered with nothing but stories of the most powerful empires and dynasties.but the west and america wants to twist facts and history, they wanted to associate democracy with success and communists with failure. China is not the first dictatorship to achieve great success,something the western media hemisphere seems to conveniently ignore or look over, there were two other dictatorships that succeeded in the 20th century, one of them was Taiwan and the other was South Korea, both of them built their incredible economies under a military junta dictatorship. in fact four if u count Singapore, a psuedo democracy and the fourth one being none other than the third reich. once i was afraid of China for the longest time just like the west, but now iv learnt to stop worrying and embrace our Chynese overlords.... DADDY XI!!!!!DADDY XI!!!!!!DADDY XI!!!!!
typical BBC making a mountain out of a mole hill . its the same thing they are doing with Russia When we all know that USA, Britain and Europe are the cause of the wars and false propaganda against the countries that do not support them
that last clip of Xi sitting next to an empty chair that once held a person gives me chills. especially when you know how these disgusting people treat their own
Do you not know the cultural respect they have for elders? He has escorts because he's senile, I know we in the US lock away our elderly and wait till they die to collect their wills and life insurance, but people there care about elders.
@@declaringpond2276 if they can’t treat their younger people like humans i wouldn’t trust them to take care of the elderly… i can’t trust these people not because of what the news has told me but by my own research. I’ve always had an interest in China and even tried to learn the language outside of school hours when i was in grade 4 (harder than i thought 😅) these politicians have zero respect from a brainwashed civilian like me tho
@@daveybare Don't get too depressed about it, they are making them better and better each day. Best way to avoid them is to not click on a link you haven't requested or searched for yourself.
He wouldn't have been there to begin with if he was so sick. The fact that none even looked up at him when he was being escorted out proves nothing was wrong with him. They knew what was going on ahead of time.
They won't kill Hu, just make him die in obscurity. This humiliation was already enough to ensure his faction will lie down and let Xi do whatever he wants.
Begs for his life lol. He’s 97 and held in high esteem. He was brought back and Xi was able to continue after waiting for him to feel better. Sounds like respect to me. Also, Winnie the Pooh, an inept and harmless yellow cartoon character with narrow eyes is a pretty obvious racist propaganda tool. No different than the caricatures that have been used for hundreds of years to breed hatred.
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
4:29 I can feel this man's feeling. He's the only guy that feels sad about this whole accident, or should I say the only one who brave enough showed their feeling. that brave guy makes me shed a tears
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
I always remembered Hu Jintao with jet black (probably dyed) hair and glasses. He looked different here - didn't recognize him at first. Of course, it is 10 years since he was President.
@@t1n4444 China’s economy is almost solely built on manufacturing and selling us (the west) things as well, so if China becomes sanctioned by the west then over half their yearly incomes will freeze 😂.
"People can't think for themselves because of fake news" This US marine break it down for us here. China: What Happened to Hu Jintao?, Just as the Western media spread lies about China before the Communist Party of China's (CPC) Congress including fabrications about a "coup" that never took place - the Western media is now lying about what happened during the Congress itself - including stories of former Chinese President Hu Jintao being "dragged" out of the event. In reality - and by looking at footage of Hu Jintao being escorted in - it is clear that he was frail, ill, and disoriented and his departure from the event was health-related. Source The New Atlas
4:20 Interesting how Xi sits in a chair apparently equal to the others, but by the "accident" of the stairs behind him it suddenly becomes framed like a throne.
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Hu Jintao's body language and verbal message to Xi Jinping before he was escorted clearly says "You may be a total dictator of China 🇨🇳 but you cannot do anything you like."
There is a saying in Chinese called "kill the chicken to warn the monkey (殺雞儆猴)", which means punish one person as a warning to others. Hu is generally considered as a "dove" in China, (especially on the Taiwan issue) , so now you should know the Xi's message to the world.
Thanks thats interesting. If the message is "going to be tougher on taiwan issue" well good luck with that. Didn't fear him before and never will. In modern warfare it's near to impossible to invade another country and win. Ukraine had fairly small amount of time to prepare for Russia. Taiwan on the other hand has been preparing for years.
Which is something that went missing in bbc's reporting of this event. Also, Xi announced within the same meeting that it is necessary to build up the military faster and to speed up Taiwan reunification. The picture is developing into what some see as obvious at this point. Surprised bbc is still lost........
@@the42nd that's just not correct .. we already saw Russia annex Crimea .. and legitimate military intimidation towards Taiwan has gone on for decades.
While it's not impossible that Hu had some health issue, the fact that this wasn't done until after reporters were in the room puts a damper on any apolitical motivation.
Other members of the assembly would have shown concern if it was a health issue but they just sat there stunned and wondering which of them would be next to have a "health issue".
It’s like the scene in the James Bond movie Spectre where the guy gets his eyes gouged out at the big round table, only for the other organisation members to not blink an eyelid and just take the whole thing as normal.
Just because he’s an old man you can bet he was as corrupt and mean as the current president of China. You know what I know the current president in China doesn’t think so but he’s going to meet the same fate that a lot of the other a dictators throughout history effaced.
See in the Chinese culture to make someone lose face is the ultimate loss of power and to display and humiliate your enemies is the final nail in the casket that you can do it's very much follow the leader in this country this is why communism was used in this country more than anything because people are used to following one person only they went from imperialism where they're following an emperor to Communism where they're following the leader there's no real difference except in the old system they were much more free this system of Communism is just a system that enriches gangsters is what this is and the gangsters that run this system the Russians do it and every other country that does this there's only one group of people that profit from communism that's its leaders
@@wendellmadfinger2358 Well I definitely agree with your post what you’re saying is these people are really truly communist it it’s a bunch of opportunities and dictators so I think you hit the nail on the head readings from the state of Kentucky.
I watched The China Show take on this and they mention the fact that the message about “his health” was for the outside world, in Chinese Internet (only Internet Chinese people have access to) there was no mention of this fact. This is quite important because for the Chinese public, this was a show of power - this is important fact to be mentioned, that you forgot or didn’t know about
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
who cares? I am not a Chinese citizen, I dont pay Chinese taxes, and I dont live in china. Why should any of us care about Chinese politics, when the UK is in the shitter
@@theresa42213 you do realize those two are racist people who got kicked out of China right. Their only source of income is anti China propaganda when they were in China and now in u.s after they got deported
Yeah, RIP ig. I hope it is the way CCP claims it is. Hu might be incredibly repressive, but he is much better and has better goals as compared Xi Winnie the Pooh Jinping
that illness excuse is hard to believe when those fellow comrades just looking at him with no sympathy as he is being escorted out, they don't seem to care
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
Everybody are experts and all we can do is guess. The facts is more worrying than a senile man is escorted out from the Congress. I hope the same could happen with Biden! The facts: Hu never returned as CCP claimed. The military generals got top positions. The theory: Xi prepares for Taiwan takeover.
hu felt he had a number 2 coming, but wanted hold it in until the meeting was over because he had previously been pranked to be stuck in a toilet without toilet paper. xi was like, "nope not gonna risk you shitting your pants in front of international media". hu then wanted to take the papers with him to the toilet just in case, but everyone be like "we assure you, we won't be pulling the same prank on you today". before leaving, he told xi "send someone to bring me some toilet paper okay" xi: "fine, fine, just go already"
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
Ai Weiwei is on the right track. This most likely has to do with names on the list for the Politburo and Politburo Standing Committee. There are theories that Hu Jintao was upset over Hu Chunhua being completely removed, as he was rhe chosen successor for Xi by Hu Jintao as part of the deal to help Xi become General secretary in the first place, from Jiang.. Xi has now chosen Ding Xuexiang as that likely successor instead, and didn't want Hu Jintao being the only objection when the vote would come around, embarrassing him.. One of the TH-camrs that give the best analysis is named Lei's Real Talk. A good video to look up.
China Uncensored also made the Hu Chunhua connection a few days before, but not the succession plan. Start at the 6:35 maark of the following video. th-cam.com/video/DMKmzONpjIs/w-d-xo.html
@@cdl0 With respect the way you basically just wrote "here's the link to the video" and then just linked to it made me immediately think you were a spambot, downvote you and report you for spam. (However I removed the downvote and upvoted you since.) Also the fact your link was the first response to another commenter with no additional details made it come across exactly like a spam bot comment. I know that was completely unintentionally on your part and you're just genuinely trying to help inform people about the world but it unintentionally came across EXACTLY like how a spam bot posts links to other youtube videos. I only clicked on your link and discovered it was the actual video by Lei because I was thinking "if I downvote the video then I can help make sure the person who created the spam bot loses money over time, since then their video could get less views by showing up less in peoples home feed in the TH-cam algorithm." I did not think for one second that the video was legitimate until I clicked on it intending to downvote what I thought would be a video advocating a scam or something.
Those envelops had a list of names on it, most likely the names of people who will be appointed. I believe the list Hu had was different than the others, so he gets tricked into saying yes on the group vote.
This is laughable, that list was decided weeks prior to the Congress, so everybody knew including his "faction". Stop consuming propaganda uncritically, that rots your brain.
The essence of this footage is not focused on the removal of Mr Hu but the deadly straight looks of other people including Li Keqiang， Wen ka po, 胡春華etc.
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
Who'd have thought that granting a man unrivalled power for an unlimited time might lead to bad things happening? I mean, it's not like it's ever happened in history before. Except for Caesar, Chairman Mau, Pol Pot, Hitler, Putin, Castro...
The creepiest thing is the total impassiveness of the politician's faces as he was led away
They’re not politicians. They’re puppets.
Same thing in every autocracy.
What? Betrayed?
They don't want to go either
Completely inscrutable.
They didn't even look that's what's even creepier
"In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends".
- Martin Luther King
What are they supposed to do?
Lol so you're implying you have the same political stances as Hu Jintao, a dengist who strengthened the power of corporations in China? I wouldn't expect anyone in this comment thread to look into Chinese economic policy anyways.
@oldmanwitherspoon yes let's have another color revolution resulting in untold amounts of bloodshed so China can adopt an even more capitalist economy.. sounds good to me!
@@PopPopPopPop who are you talking to mate?
@@haveatyou1 I was replying to someone who said "theres 1 billion of them, rise up!"
I was living in HK during President Hu’s tenure and I’ll say that he never forced HK into whatever it is right now. I always have respect for him. It’s quite a shock for me to see what has become of him. He looks like he aged 20 years in the past 5 years
It is both sickening and sad to see the direction China has been taking under Xi. There are other concerning authoritarian trends in the world, but Xi is now the scariest after watching russia’s slow collapse.
Hes 80 years old man....
Counter Revolutionary Hu did not bring glorious, revolutionary, Party approved Correct Speech and Allowed Thinking to HK.
@@jamesrecknor6752 Yeah, he didnt have enough leverage back then.
Now, with enough leverage...and stupidity of those uni students, HK govt could clamp down on those traitors, hard.
Hilairous, really...
Hong Kong wasn’t forced by anyone, it was a century long established agreement, give it a rest 🤦🏽♂️
I hope Xi remembers the moment well as he can relive it when his time comes
Yeah I think they all forget some day they will have to day...
It'll be awesome
Xi time will come he won't be missed
People like him would think that his time will never come. They all do.
Problem is Xi passed a new law which granted him almost absolute power. He is gonna be in power for a very long time just like Putin, almost until the end of his life. Very sad. The people of China desperately wanted a new leader who might be just like XI predecessor, someone more open minded. China has a such a good potential, it’s crazy how large part of the population lives in poverty.
This is why, in authoritarian political systems, you can never afford to lose power.
If you're not the one doing the purging, you're at risk of getting purged. Especially if you're a significant figure who does not have the present leader to thank for his career.
@BOHICA sure, but it's also a pet move of paranoiac dictators and it's part of the very DNA of this regime, starting with Mao. There is, if you will, something uniquely Chinese about this, even among the trend for dictatorial purges. Just like there may be some similarities between the concepts of "saving face" and "guanxi" between Chinese and other cultures, nevertheless, they are pivotal concepts in that particular culture. Because saving face is even more important than, say, in a culture which is less insistent on such appearances, an act of deliberate humiliation speaks volumes. Yes, power relations have always existed among humans but Hu wasn't exactly clubbed over the head; he was treated as though he had no status and the public should be made aware that he was shown to be discarded as though his presence was beyond meaningless. This is fairly mild as far as The Purge goes, but it's very specific power play in a country that has its own power plays stretching back thousands of years to the Warring States period and Qin Shihuang. Not everyone would choose to display their contempt for a previous ruler in quite this way. Just saying.
Another Chinaphobia spotted!!!
"Authoritarian" maybe still a marginally applicable term up till 3 years ago. It's been "Totalitarian" for quite a while now.
Exactly, just like the US.
Unlike the u.s., they dnt shoot their political opponents, if you're ain't convinced, try to arrange for an interview with Kennedy. 😂😂
The fact that nobody else bats an eyelid is kinda chilling.
It's like the Warren commission when analyzing JFK
Sigma male grind
Don't have eyelids
look straight ahead pretend its not happening, maybe Xi wont see us and send us to a uigher camp
@@riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip Ah, an intellectual.
"He was not feeling well... Now, he is much better."
Absolutely bonechilling. An obvious Orwellian euphemism to be interpreted either at face value or as a warning, depending on whose ears it's intended for.
"Where he go?"
"To the farm. He's happier now."
Lol the only thing orwellian here is you being comprehensively brainwashed by mainstream media.
Everyone feels better after a good poo. You're making this rather dramatic.
Bing chilling🍦
Bonechilling? The old guy coulda pooped his pants. You woulda averted your eyes if that happened also. 100% speculation. Nothing to see here.
One of the saddest moment of my life, as I grow up and went to college during the Hu era with so much hope and optimism toward this country's future. Bit by bit, it was shredded in the last ten years.
Wtf you taking about, China is about to 10x the GDP of the US in 5 or so years and they are systematically eliminating poverty. Like im no fan of china because I'm an anarchist but for y'all this is literally how u would define success for the Hu era.
@@alexhamilton3421 Check out laowhy Lukas isn’t joking when the Hu era showed so much promise with China
A lot of chinese living in Brazil says the number 1 reason they left China is because they did not have freedom.
@@alexhamilton3421 ur a wierdoo
Lukas - you are a wumao.
“ he wasn’t feeling well , but now he’s feeling much better “ , has he been seen since this statement was made?
@Inside story reported your comment and I hope your channel gets deleted because you're falsely promoting it.
@@kingandgod you people should stop threaten other, you European are worst behind the mask, problem all platform is owned by those who all by means want to hold economic grip with any means, the short era of European has come to end. Try hard and still u all lose.
Over 10 hrs daily for an 80 years old man for 2 weeks.
Yes, he came in on his own later on to vote.
He will probably suffer a heart attack
The way the other politicians don't move but carefully watch with their eyes tells you something bad is happening.
To the gulag he went. He was gonna spill the beans that covid 19 was a biological weapon developed in the wuhan labs
As a communist supporter, I must say you capitalist/democracy lovers always like to speculate. You always say things like "something bad is happening". Yeah, what's happening that's bad is western media being allowed to report on matters, when all western media is anti communist and anti socialist. Long live the communist party ☭
Yeah, he was removed from his position. They weren't escorting him to get tortured.
@@Oo27254 If he was too elderly and ill to participate, they could have disallowed him to join them in the conference. They could have made the exact same statement to explain his absence. The point is that this was deliberate, it was done in front of everyone on camera, and it was a message. The empty chair was a message. The entire conference staring straight ahead was a message. Nobody turned to ask what was happening to ask about his welfare or turn and smile and nod politely to him with a kind word? Nope. This was a message. There are other ways to remove someone from their position. This was a deliberate public humiliation to communicate total control.
The old man was staggering and clearly is not feeling well.
I'm glad they let Hu know he wasn't feeling well. He's a 80 yr old man. Sometimes he forgets.
Lol.. I like their caring nature.
@Jericho Kilmanja omg.. the joke flew right over your smooth brain lmao.
Unlikely they’re a bot, but they’re joking about how an 80yr old man had to be reminded that he was not feeling well due to ‘bad memory’. They’re clearly mocking the Chinese gov. And saying it was staged.. how did you miss the joke 😂
@Jericho Kilmanja Basically saying everything in the Chinese gov. Is ‘staged’ as Hu ‘needed’ assistants to tell him he’s feeling unwell and that he needed to go, and that he forgot due to ‘bad memory’
If you still don’t get the joke.. just… ure kinda hopeless 😂
[redacted] [redacted], your sarcastic comment is very funny. By the way, as I am sure you already know, the correct grammar should be "an 80-yr-old man".
@Jericho Kilmanja please tell me youre talking about inside and not redacted
Our leaders everywhere have gone completely mad and they act as though we don't know what's going on..I'm afraid for all of us 😪
buy gold and silver young man!
@@jykl608 lol
@@jykl608 I had to sell it all for gas and butter ☹
BBC = British Brainwashing Cooperation
I'm afraid for all of us too. America, China, Russia, Europe....it's everywhere 😪
Image and symbolism is everything to them. This was no accident. Carefully choreographed for the world’s media to see.
It's publicly a embarrasing moment for Xi as well to have not having things run smoothly in such events. I don't think he would plan something like that.
@Bella
Reported for spam.
When your time comes, you will be forced to seat there even though you are dying and need a rest
@@narkelnaru2710 does telling a bot you reported them make you feel like you have accomplished something? Hilarious
Now escort Biden out if white house
Feels like a scene from a mafia movie when one of the leaders of the mafia family disagrees with a policy during a meeting.
I had the same thought!
Yeh Chinese communist party is basically a mafia.
It is exactly as cool as that
It is whacking
You do realize that before becoming politician, Xi Jinping was a pig farmer/ Gangster; sort of like that Guy Richie movie, "Snatched".
There’s a Chinese parable about how the father and son carried the grandpa to remote mountain 🏔️ to desert him. When the father was going to throw away the carriage, the son said pls don’t I’ll save it for your turn.
What goes around comes around 😂
"Wu to Lu; if Ji see Li I pu in shu for Bu & Hu"
@@OntopoftheRN So enlighten us, please.
Oh, heck yeah ...you're definitely seeing that turnaround. Karma is Here spreading everywhere
Isn't that a Japanese thing?
Oooo, ha thanks.
The Title is Why the ex Leader was escorted , you explained absolutely nothing as to why the ex Leader was escorted , WTF .
Because they're just trying to make fun of the Chinese government. But in the end, they're the real clowns.
Hu Jintao was not feeling well as reported by the Chinese government but now Mr. Hu is in a better place.
that sounds ominous
"Better place." Oof, scary.
Likely.
Excuses by CCP. He was fine
@@anthony64632 he didnt look fine
Pooh wanted him out because he was going to vote against changing their constitution since Pooh broke the deal he had with Hu and kicked all of Hu’s people out of the Politburo. Notice how they didn’t want him to look at the contents in the red folder thus discovering Pooh’s duplicity
@Illuminator And from the history we know how far can you get when you rule with terror. Its only matter of time until something happens in China. Might be a bit longer but its inevitable.
Lol you said Pooh
Pooh just want to keep all honey by himself
@@KokoroShashin Ding! The only thing he fears is a yellow pooh bear.
@@onlyusemebladder2300
Here's a vocabulary list to help you out:
Jiang Zemin = Toad King / Ghoul
Hu Jintao = Wooden Face
Xi Jinping = Winnie the Pooh
The most chilling fact is in the full video when Hu Jintao is about to get escorted out of his chair, to his left, Li Zhanshu wanted to help the old man as any normal human being would, Mr. Li got up halfway to try to help Hu Jintao get out of his chair, but to Mr. Li's left Wang Huning pulled on Mr. Li's jacket telling him to sit back down, don't draw anymore attention to yourself, all the while Present Xi Jinping is making a sour facial expression. Mr. Li awkwardly sat back down, gathered the documents infront of Hu Jintao and looked like he whispered "Don't look at it, Don't look at it", Mr. Wang also looked like he whispered the same words. As Hu Jintao gets escorted away, no one dared to make any eye contact or glanced his way. Hu Jintao advocated political reform, brought forth China's 10 years of golden period, forged a strong relationship with the West, and this is how his story ends.
I was excited to be part of a world with Hu in power of china, but not with Xi
I always felt bad for Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao. Their like HEROES for the western world.
They brought forth a powerful and prosperous China, that actually felt like a dependable ally with the west.
Even though a lot of Americans hated the lack of manufacturing jobs, people liked China regardless.
XiJinping really just took over and told these others to fuck off.
Now XiJinping is warmongering with the west and has seen the worst economic period in recent Chinese history.
Its genuinely sad.
And that excuses him from complicity in crimes against humanity?
What's in the "box" ?
@@ursamajor7468 But we really need to dig the political implication further. i think by the gesture and lips movement we can approximate the general feng shui of the room. From a process of elimination of the possible conversation they are having, we can almost be sure that they were indeed speaking mandarin.
For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing.
They turned their backs on being good men long before they started climbing the ranks of the CCP.
Quite correct th-cam.com/video/jiBXmbkwiSw/w-d-xo.html
You mean like all the nameless, faceless, commentors like yourself? 😂
He's feeling much better. Death cures all pains.
be sure and let us know when you get there
Yes those 22-caliber pills work every time.
@@hifijohn honestly us students need to have plenty of .22 pills so they get an immunity to bullets
not likely, there has been many times that rumor says Hu might be killed, but everytime, a few days later, Hu is back in front of the camera.
@@edward3190 It looked like he was going unwillingly, I didn't know that bit of history. Thanks.
It's like a mobster realizing that his own family has just marked him for a hit.
AI WEI WEI !!!!!
Thank you for just redefining what I was saying in another post Daryl because this is basically what this is communism is just basically systematic Mafia hell even the mafia from Italy treats their people 10 times more better than what communist treat their people communism is just a system of enslavement we're all earn slaved and only the few truly reap the rewards of this system and that's its leaders
He can have all the power he wants, but a day will come when that power will be useless to him. When it won't save him.
Not before he totally destroys many aspects of modern China & the world.
@Inside story reported
Yeah sadly only when he dies
These guys know that the road they travel down is one way, you don't ever get to come back from so much blood.
Death
I was raised in a country with a similar authoritarian system where the same ruling party has factions that work against each other and no one trusts anyone, all of a sudden somebody is kicked out or dies mysteriously
Or they fall out of the 5th-floor window
Russia?
@@artificialanimeuniverse5063 could be yugoslavia (like me)
even though when people "disappeared" here, they were not dead, they would be inprisoned in concentration camps, which worked more like prisons than labor camps, not as harsh, yet its the same shit in the end, you cant speak
im glad its over now, wouldnt never like it to go the way it was
we still feel the corruption and consequences today, even 30 years after the split
Like when the secret service takes a president for a ride in Dallas with the CIA all about.
@bobbiebob575 bob All due respect and no front, I'm not sure if you know the meaning of XD XD
Rest in peace Hu Jintao
Fr?
He is still living
you all didnt get his joke
he jumped out of a building because not feeling well.
Also why feel for him? He also was a bloody communist and a ruthless dictator...
Reminds me when Saddam Hussein had a large party meeting (there’s a video online in black and white) and told the crowd there were traitors among them- called them out, had them led out, and as they were pledging alliance to Saddam (mostly to save themselves), they were escorted outside to be shot. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Yes I thought of that too. Scary
That's exactly the first thing that came to mind as well, though this definitely feels more undercover.
reminds me of the last 4 presidents who killed its own people in silence for opposting the war in middle east
Irl amogus
Stalin was the same way, paranoid delusional tyrants.
This feels like when Marvel dropped a 4 seconds teaser of a thriller. Some TH-cam channel "3684 things you might have missed in the teaser" 😂
Never thought I’d see a “SIEZE HIM!” moment on TV, but here we are lol
This was a politician “power move”, he was likely the only person that could stand in his way
Everyone is the room was tense and stiff-- you can see they are scared for themselves. If that wasn't a display of power, I don't know what is.
How about display of terror
@gjaegreag
You’re talking about soldiers versus leaders of a nation here 🤦🏼♂️
Even Hu’s 3 protégés on that podium didn’t even blink out of concerns?
More like a display of being vegan!!! We wouldn't have these issues!
@gjaegreag Exactly the same! HAHA you f'in payed up TROLL
@gjaegreag Congratulations! Looks you made 50 cents x 3 in these comments! Glory to the Leader!
How unsettling…and unfortunate..
" [...] accompanied him to a room next to the meeting venue for a rest." There is definitely a typo. They meant to say "arrest"
It's not a typo, 'rest' as.. 'rest in peace'..
@@tonepitiporn7025 oh well
Probably the room number was "101"
no they meant to say a trio to chinas mobile death vans they have that drive around the country executing various people accused of the death penalty
a(r)rest
Remember, if you see it in CCP footage, it's because they want you to see it, "We never pan without the command"
It's a message to anyone that would dare to challenge Jinping
Evil men may momentarily gain the upper hand, but never prevail in the end.
Because sooner or later, evil men are bound to do evil against each other which results in their downfall.
Evil always triumphs over good, because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet
Evil men have been prevailing since the beginning of humanity. They run this world because they are willing to do things good men aren't
Queen Elizabeth? British Empire?
Damn bro, its almost like we live in a society or something...
Evil men?? He eradicated extreme poverty in China.......what has your boris......ahemm Liz......Sunak done for you??
Stop buying Chinese goods before they own everything. Spend a few dollars more.
The fact the video was allowed to be released/go viral immediately after, adds credence to the intentionality of that moment
@DivaAfro I read that it isn't viral within China anymore; this portion has been airbrushed and can only be viewed internationally.
Oh for gods sake it's obviously so pathetically orchestrated. This was basically a press release shouting "China is weak and corrupt, and here is an example".
yeah, many report that the video doesn't exist within China and Chinese people don't even know this ever happened. A new era of communism smh
Well western media was the one who shot the footage, they could NOT have controlled what they did with it.
At least not fast enough to prevent it from going viral.
I don't think this is a factor, more like they planned for it to happen.
Your comment got stolen by a bot 😭
That was Xi saying to the world “there is nobody to stop me now from inside, give up that particular hope”.
Xi will get his due comeuppance 🤯
My condolences on passing due to natural causes.
naturally slipped out a window like all those russian doctors at the start of covid
They scorted him back to his seat after the clip if they wanted him dead they wouldn't even let him get in front of a camera
@@PhoenixIgnisChannel So this is just another job of the Cold War Machine attempting to rile us up for a war against China. Good to know.
@@PhoenixIgnisChannel They didn't escort him back.
Thank you BBC for describing those images we can perfectly see.
Thank you also for giving explanations as to why it is very hard to read that moment, ultimately telling us that you don't know for sure because it is not possible to know for sure.
Great analysis, no loss of time here.
China is the biggest player in the world so everything that happens there is relevant.
@@Kalki1122No it’s not, China is like #3 at this point. Even Indian capital is more advanced than most of China
Hu apparently had health issues that he didn't know about. I reckon the health issues are about to get worse in the coming days.
NOT TRUE ABOUT HIS HEALTH. XI WAHT HIM OUT OF THE WAY
Hhhhhh
Yup. His covid alert on his phone went red permanently
@@anthony64632 issues he didn't know about...as in prescribed by The cCp lol
The same weird infection Jack Ma suffered from - according to the CCP.
They didn't even address the fact that the guy sitting to the right started to stand up in respect but was low key pulled down by the guy sitting to the right of him. That makes it even less speculative.
Watch the whole clip, he didn’t stand in respect, he was partly an instigator of the entire thing.
That was Li Zhanshu....
Not that there are many "good" people in the CCP. But individual's like him are definitely a lesser evil, compared to Xi Jinping.
Sincere question....
How much do you know about China?
@@johnnylego807
中国最大的威胁是中共，我们时代的革命。
@@johnnylego807 exactly. It looked like he was helping to move the chair slightly back or fixing the back of his suit leg
@@tea-chip-cookies Yup, i don’t know why this person is spreading misinformation, the guy seated to his right did not help, but instigated things, he was the one to initially pull the folder away from Huo.
The proximity to power is a dangerous place.
'On the heights, all paths are paved with daggers.'
@@dreamer2260 "Why is it, that in order to be human today, we must gain access to power?" -Dr. Cornell West.
@@blackbird5634 Nice. Cornel West is a good guy.
How do things amount to this? Ruling by fear and intimidation, to the point of publicly ousting a previous leader and everyone else is stoic and unmoved? I am grateful to live somewhere where politics is not like this. Leadership should not be afforded this kind of power, should not be able to oppress and silence opposition in this way. And leaders should have term limits - it feels like cementing power over a long time is synonymous with corruption and dictatorship.
Stunning to watch! Many TV shows try to write scripts with tense scene's that emulate this situation, but to actually see it in real life is a little frightening.
Reminds me of Saddam's televised Baath Party purge
They likely watched that movie. From a bootlegged copy, of course.
It appears to have been Mean Girls.
The "You can't sit with Us" scene
Good observation.
@@SusanKay- Holy tomato, is that what happened? Is his uncle okay, you know, since their tech is trash?
Seriously, though, that's just insanity. It's a Twilight Zone episode where the dictator looks into this mirror and "sees" enemies and betrayal everywhere, then starts to kill off everyone close to him -- family, friends, people who helped him get to the top, enemies, nobodies, everyone... until he went...insane
Yeah, very frightening indeed. I mean hes 80 years old and probably not feeling good? Suffering dementia?
Well, at least we are not seeing him shaking hand with invisible man. Thatd be too embarrassing.
They did it on purpose to make their current leader look strong
Display of power. They allowed that to happen *after* the reporters were let back in…
@Simulation L certainly seems like it; and as though Hu could have raised questions about intentions of Xi
@Simulation L the CCP make examples of people for sure, and always have. Many have suffered at their hands in this way, and still do. But where a former leader or party insider is concerned, the power play is on a different level.
stop asian hate stop rumor. he is old and sick, nothing more. china is not corruption.
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
Let me quote a quote of an Old Sage
"You Start with Nothing,Then You Get Everything, Next comes the phase When You Lose Everything ! Transientness of Time & Life"
An Old Sage
"Abu Soqrat".
The folder contained the candidate list for new officials. Hu was given a list with different names from everyone else's which is why he kept reaching for someone else's list to confirm and is also why he looked confused throughout the whole video.
Is that so
You are right. I think so
Wild imaginations..
Is it possible he's just old so that's why he had to be escorted in, and escorted out to take a rest and then later came back. And perhaps that might also be the reason he looks dazed the whole time.
@@jondoh9414 sounds like Joe lol
Time for the people to stand up
Glad I don’t live in an autocratic state like China and Russia. Would have to look over my shoulder all day every day.
You’re not politically significant so actually not really😂
Assuming you're in the USA, if the intimidatory poll watchers get their way, we'll be in autocracy soon enough.
@@metaverseplayer how would you know🤔
@@metaverseplayer Actually, every four years we get the chance to rid ourselves of whoever is in power - and in between we can speak out through tge media - is it that same in China or Russia?
Who is the leader of the opposition in either of these countries?
@@metaverseplayer You dont need to be politically significant LOL. All you have to do is talk with family or friends about how your government is shit and you will be arrested lmfao. That's china and russia for you
3:24 you cut off one of the most important sections of Hu Jintao's reaction to Xi and Li.
1. Hu talks to Xi, and Xi nods his head saying "hao hao=yes, okay", that means there was a deal, and Xi pretends to agree; and then
2. Hu taps on Li's shoulder in a concern and deep love, whatever you interpret into that direction. Hu supports Li, communist youth league.
*There are 2 major groups of Chinese Communist Party:
*One is like Xi whose father is the founder of the party who fought and founded PRC, thinks he owns the whole country. This group of the people are the 2nd generation and offspring of CCP founders who have the government official's jobs because of their relationship, not because of their talent. Mao's grandson is also in this scenario.
*The other group of people are the ordinary citizens who have no strong background and were permitted to the party because of their talent.
**One group, like Xi, think they are orthodoxy, have power with no talent to run the country, and the other group have ability, higher education, open-minded and humanity . Hu wants the balance to run the country, yet Xi wants everybody listening to his order. We all know it's The Emperor's New Clothes. Like Putin, surrounds with no truth voice and makes wrong judgement and decision, very dangerous.
But still comunism is bad for the country
You forget Toad and his gang. Xi was supposed to be on the side of the Communist Youth League. He pretended to play along to get Hu’s support. Now, there are 3 factions in CCP. Toad’s, Xi’s and Hu’s. But I think Hu’s gang is being eliminated.
The open minded faction you are talking about are the more liberal minded elements of the CCP, who also have strong inclinations towards the US. Xi is purging the ranks of the pro US elements and establishing a goverment for a ramp up in the confrontation with America. Xi represents the more nationalistic elements of the CCP who are wanting to step up their game in the international arena beginning with Taiwan. The US has never seen anything as what is starting to come its way.
this just shows that China is now the most powerful monarchy in the world with capitalistic and chinese traits.....why is the west so plainly jealous and upset?i dont get it......China never claimed to be a democracy,it has never been, that democratic China died along with Chang kai shek and Taiwan, if US and the west insist on recognising Taiwan as a soverignty,then it must acknowledge dictatorship China and her right to exist too.
has america forgotten her own constitution? the inalienable right for any sovereign nation to exist,regardless of their ideology,religion,affliation or
this is the greatest victory and blow against the west and western ideology, China is proof that a dictatorship can rise from nothing and be incredibly successful too,why wouldnt it be?after all human history is littered with nothing but stories of the most powerful empires and dynasties.but the west and america wants to twist facts and history, they wanted to associate democracy with success and communists with failure.
China is not the first dictatorship to achieve great success,something the western media hemisphere seems to conveniently ignore or look over, there were two other dictatorships that succeeded in the 20th century, one of them was Taiwan and the other was South Korea, both of them built their incredible economies under a military junta dictatorship. in fact four if u count Singapore, a psuedo democracy and the fourth one being none other than the third reich.
once i was afraid of China for the longest time just like the west, but now iv learnt to stop worrying and embrace our Chynese overlords....
DADDY XI!!!!!DADDY XI!!!!!!DADDY XI!!!!!
typical BBC making a mountain out of a mole hill . its the same thing they are doing with Russia When we all know that USA, Britain and Europe are the cause of the wars and false propaganda against the countries that do not support them
A dissenting opinion arent allowed in any authoritarian state. You may hate the delays & slow pace of every democratic system but consensus is the way
that last clip of Xi sitting next to an empty chair that once held a person gives me chills. especially when you know how these disgusting people treat their own
the world will soon experience what it means having Xi and his clique ruling China unchecked
What will the BBC tell you to be shocked about tommorow?
Do you not know the cultural respect they have for elders? He has escorts because he's senile, I know we in the US lock away our elderly and wait till they die to collect their wills and life insurance, but people there care about elders.
@@declaringpond2276 if they can’t treat their younger people like humans i wouldn’t trust them to take care of the elderly… i can’t trust these people not because of what the news has told me but by my own research. I’ve always had an interest in China and even tried to learn the language outside of school hours when i was in grade 4 (harder than i thought 😅) these politicians have zero respect from a brainwashed civilian like me tho
@@Twiglet456 👌
I didn't even rrcognize Hu Jintao. He aged A LOT in a few years!
@Imy Toqa What was I supposed to get from that exactly?
@@daveybare you are replying to a bot, pay it no mind
@@hecatedraws Well that answers that question. I muat be getting old, I fell for it 😐
@@daveybare Don't get too depressed about it, they are making them better and better each day. Best way to avoid them is to not click on a link you haven't requested or searched for yourself.
@@hecatedraws Oh didn't click on the link. I just meant I fell for it in the sense that I replied. Yeah, unsolicited links get no clicks from me.
He wouldn't have been there to begin with if he was so sick. The fact that none even looked up at him when he was being escorted out proves nothing was wrong with him. They knew what was going on ahead of time.
Nah I doubt any knew, u just don’t step out of line, u think it would have been wise to say something and make a scene??? OFC not....
I doubt they knew, they were just too scared to care about it.
Ha! and guess what BBC would say when Hu didn't show at all? SIMILAR STORY! If not same story. Tired of this shit.
@@citytianyu What's the true story then?
It was a show of dominance and warning to anyone dare to challenge.
It's the way Winnie waves him off so casually as he tries to beg for his life that sticks with me. "Can't do it, Sally."
Nice reference.
They won't kill Hu, just make him die in obscurity. This humiliation was already enough to ensure his faction will lie down and let Xi do whatever he wants.
Hello An
Begs for his life lol. He’s 97 and held in high esteem. He was brought back and Xi was able to continue after waiting for him to feel better. Sounds like respect to me. Also, Winnie the Pooh, an inept and harmless yellow cartoon character with narrow eyes is a pretty obvious racist propaganda tool. No different than the caricatures that have been used for hundreds of years to breed hatred.
@@freelance_commie Winnie the Pooh was given to him by Chinese people so you can drop that race card
Rare to watch someone get disappeared on live tv.
Or he was just not feeling well. Some people at his age start to lose their mind. Not the first time he needed help.
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
“Is this still news?” “With a dramatic soundtrack it sure as hell is.”
What? Of course this is news. You think a coup isn’t newsworthy?
4:29 I can feel this man's feeling. He's the only guy that feels sad about this whole accident, or should I say the only one who brave enough showed their feeling.
that brave guy makes me shed a tears
It was just a presentation of power. He probably can't be stopped by anyone now.
Or he was just not feeling well. Some people at his age start to lose their mind. Not the first time he needed help.
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
@@TL-xv1fd At that time point, both Hu and Xi are ordinary communist party member, former general secretary.
This played out just like in The Godfather when Tessio was escorted out to the car lol. Hu Jintao had the same facial expression.
I always remembered Hu Jintao with jet black (probably dyed) hair and glasses. He looked different here - didn't recognize him at first. Of course, it is 10 years since he was President.
He's unwell, clearly
@@jakkritphanomchit ccp is lying for sure
作为一名中国普通人，看到这样的画面很震惊很伤心，要知道我一直用的是胡锦涛的头像，如果不翻墙永远无法看到这样震惊的画面，胡锦涛时代起码言论相对自由，经济每年都是两位数增长，没有看到任何他搞个人崇拜的迹象。。。。我不清楚在这种场合把胡锦涛强行带离现场意味着什么，但是作为前中国领导人，在他被强行带离起身的时候，旁边的其他政治人物别说起身了就连注视的礼仪都没有，如此冷漠，我昨天才看到这样震惊的画面，我想办法下载下来了，但是上传网盘时被提示是违反国家相关法律法规的文件
叫所有的老头下台。
Of course Hu doesn’t want to leave the session,he knows what is waiting for him off stage.
Xi jinping seems not ready for competition. I don't think he will ever admit defeat from anyone
Hmm, perhaps he hasn't really thought about Taiwan and America's guarantee of intervening if China gets too adventurous in that region.
Not ready for competition? lol tell you know jack shxt about China's politics without telling you know jack shxt about it.
There is always one opponent none of us can beat. Death. But Xi looks healthy if a little plump.
@@t1n4444 China’s economy is almost solely built on manufacturing and selling us (the west) things as well, so if China becomes sanctioned by the west then over half their yearly incomes will freeze 😂.
"People can't think for themselves because of fake news"
This US marine break it down for us here.
China: What Happened to Hu Jintao?, Just as the Western media spread lies about China before the Communist Party of China's (CPC) Congress including fabrications about a "coup" that never took place - the Western media is now lying about what happened during the Congress itself - including stories of former Chinese President Hu Jintao being "dragged" out of the event.
In reality - and by looking at footage of Hu Jintao being escorted in - it is clear that he was frail, ill, and disoriented and his departure from the event was health-related.
Source
The New Atlas
4:20 Interesting how Xi sits in a chair apparently equal to the others, but by the "accident" of the stairs behind him it suddenly becomes framed like a throne.
Any interpretation of the BBC is questionable 🤔
But BBC can't speak the language properly. Everyone doing phuss phusss phusss phusss.
If I sat there as one of the "remainers" I'd be wondering when something like that is going to happen to me.
It was a special escorting operation
It's very simple, Xi-jin ping wants all power for himself, and Hu Jintao is standing in his way, that's why he got removed from power.
Eedyt.
And how does a 79 year old who retired from politics over a decade ago stand in the way exactly?
Or you know, he's senile. You people look at biden and see someone who should be in care, why would it be different in China.
@@declaringpond2276 Hu Jintao is the same age as Biden.
When an unsubstantiated and conspicuous comment gets more likes than a detailed and objective comment
What a society we live in, a literal repeat of the pre-ww1 era
Before you say it, I'm in no way a bot you walking abortion advertisement
"Why China’s ex-leader was escorted out"
"We don't know"
Ok
Display of power to those within his hands reach for sure. .
Hu Jintao's body language and verbal message to Xi Jinping before he was escorted clearly says "You may be a total dictator of China 🇨🇳 but you cannot do anything you like."
The coverage of this is insane.
Journalists refer to Ai Weiwei on China like they used to go to Al Sharpton about anything to do with the "Black Community". Lazy.
Scary. Total control in that room. If you needed to sneeze, you'd do you hardest not to.
There is a saying in Chinese called "kill the chicken to warn the monkey (殺雞儆猴)",
which means punish one person as a warning to others.
Hu is generally considered as a "dove" in China, (especially on the Taiwan issue) ,
so now you should know the Xi's message to the world.
Thanks thats interesting. If the message is "going to be tougher on taiwan issue" well good luck with that. Didn't fear him before and never will. In modern warfare it's near to impossible to invade another country and win. Ukraine had fairly small amount of time to prepare for Russia. Taiwan on the other hand has been preparing for years.
@@the42nd do you get your news from MSNBC, Ukraine has been preparing since 2014. Trump loaded them with American artilleries a few years ago.
Which is something that went missing in bbc's reporting of this event. Also, Xi announced within the same meeting that it is necessary to build up the military faster and to speed up Taiwan reunification. The picture is developing into what some see as obvious at this point. Surprised bbc is still lost........
@@the42nd that's just not correct .. we already saw Russia annex Crimea .. and legitimate military intimidation towards Taiwan has gone on for decades.
the message is hes desperate to keep people in line and has resorted to terror against his own people
While it's not impossible that Hu had some health issue, the fact that this wasn't done until after reporters were in the room puts a damper on any apolitical motivation.
Other members of the assembly would have shown concern if it was a health issue but they just sat there stunned and wondering which of them would be next to have a "health issue".
Looks like the day when someone at work gets escorted out the building and nobody would dare say anything.
It’s like the scene in the James Bond movie Spectre where the guy gets his eyes gouged out at the big round table, only for the other organisation members to not blink an eyelid and just take the whole thing as normal.
If Hu Jintao was unwell, then wasn't Xi Jinping just oozing concern over an ill colleague.
Xi was worried because Hu looked too weak to raise his hand for the yes vote :)
he jumped out of a building because not feeling well.
@@basillah7650 Yes, that is quite catching at the moment.
Life is never short of surprises
Like the last two British PMs
@@Pnumi outlasted by a lettuce! 😀
Maybe he needed the bathroom.
So sad for them to do that to him, looks very strange to me.
The poor man looked so bewildered 😢😢
Just because he’s an old man you can bet he was as corrupt and mean as the current president of China. You know what I know the current president in China doesn’t think so but he’s going to meet the same fate that a lot of the other a dictators throughout history effaced.
Yeah and that is very bad…how are you doing Susan?
I don’t feel sorry form you play stupid games you when stupid prizes.
See in the Chinese culture to make someone lose face is the ultimate loss of power and to display and humiliate your enemies is the final nail in the casket that you can do it's very much follow the leader in this country this is why communism was used in this country more than anything because people are used to following one person only they went from imperialism where they're following an emperor to Communism where they're following the leader there's no real difference except in the old system they were much more free this system of Communism is just a system that enriches gangsters is what this is and the gangsters that run this system the Russians do it and every other country that does this there's only one group of people that profit from communism that's its leaders
@@wendellmadfinger2358 Well I definitely agree with your post what you’re saying is these people are really truly communist it it’s a bunch of opportunities and dictators so I think you hit the nail on the head readings from the state of Kentucky.
I watched The China Show take on this and they mention the fact that the message about “his health” was for the outside world, in Chinese Internet (only Internet Chinese people have access to) there was no mention of this fact. This is quite important because for the Chinese public, this was a show of power - this is important fact to be mentioned, that you forgot or didn’t know about
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
who cares? I am not a Chinese citizen, I dont pay Chinese taxes, and I dont live in china. Why should any of us care about Chinese politics, when the UK is in the shitter
Interesting
A S ~ l watch Winston n' C - Milk too! Best show on China GOING!
@@theresa42213 you do realize those two are racist people who got kicked out of China right.
Their only source of income is anti China propaganda when they were in China and now in u.s after they got deported
RIP in advance
In advance😂
he didnt do anything wrong?
@@inthefogs
As if "doing something wrong" is the requirement for getting killed in China.
Yeah, RIP ig. I hope it is the way CCP claims it is. Hu might be incredibly repressive, but he is much better and has better goals as compared Xi Winnie the Pooh Jinping
@@inthefogs He exists, or maybe existed (past tense) by this point. That's probably what he did wrong according to Xi.
When you don't know if you are going to live through the day.
Hello Merry
that illness excuse is hard to believe when those fellow comrades just looking at him with no sympathy as he is being escorted out, they don't seem to care
do you think it is different in the West. Backstabbing is everywhere
They don't want to go out with him that's why
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
He was simply being asked to help serve the cheese toast. He is sublime in his efforts to serve the Party.
Yea that right. How’re you doing?
Clickbait title, they have no idea.
Everybody are experts and all we can do is guess.
The facts is more worrying than a senile man is escorted out from the Congress. I hope the same could happen with Biden!
The facts: Hu never returned as CCP claimed. The military generals got top positions.
The theory: Xi prepares for Taiwan takeover.
Most of mainstream Western society have no idea, when thye constanly on this brain rot. US-UK wastes the most on media propaganda.
Is there no-one that can lip-read what was said to Hu?
He said order the Ginger Beef, it's amazing.
@@daleweiss9507 with grandma's special rice dumplings.
hu felt he had a number 2 coming, but wanted hold it in until the meeting was over because he had previously been pranked to be stuck in a toilet without toilet paper.
xi was like, "nope not gonna risk you shitting your pants in front of international media".
hu then wanted to take the papers with him to the toilet just in case, but everyone be like "we assure you, we won't be pulling the same prank on you today".
before leaving, he told xi "send someone to bring me some toilet paper okay"
xi: "fine, fine, just go already"
Bu said to Hu "boo hoo you poo in my stew but Ji and Li pee in your tea!"
@@juzam6 This is the complete narrative as far as I'm concerned.
He just forgot he was feeling unwell...lol
he jumped out of a building because not feeling well.
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
Ai Weiwei is on the right track. This most likely has to do with names on the list for the Politburo and Politburo Standing Committee. There are theories that Hu Jintao was upset over Hu Chunhua being completely removed, as he was rhe chosen successor for Xi by Hu Jintao as part of the deal to help Xi become General secretary in the first place, from Jiang.. Xi has now chosen Ding Xuexiang as that likely successor instead, and didn't want Hu Jintao being the only objection when the vote would come around, embarrassing him.. One of the TH-camrs that give the best analysis is named Lei's Real Talk. A good video to look up.
You beat me by nine seconds. Lei's video is th-cam.com/video/syy4eHWbkyM/w-d-xo.html.
@@cdl0 as she said, only a matter of time before mainstream media will be talking about it.
China Uncensored also made the Hu Chunhua connection a few days before, but not the succession plan. Start at the 6:35 maark of the following video.
th-cam.com/video/DMKmzONpjIs/w-d-xo.html
@@shshsh8837 Indeed she did say that. They need to hire Lei.
@@cdl0
With respect the way you basically just wrote "here's the link to the video" and then just linked to it made me immediately think you were a spambot, downvote you and report you for spam. (However I removed the downvote and upvoted you since.)
Also the fact your link was the first response to another commenter with no additional details made it come across exactly like a spam bot comment.
I know that was completely unintentionally on your part and you're just genuinely trying to help inform people about the world but it unintentionally came across EXACTLY like how a spam bot posts links to other youtube videos.
I only clicked on your link and discovered it was the actual video by Lei because I was thinking "if I downvote the video then I can help make sure the person who created the spam bot loses money over time, since then their video could get less views by showing up less in peoples home feed in the TH-cam algorithm."
I did not think for one second that the video was legitimate until I clicked on it intending to downvote what I thought would be a video advocating a scam or something.
Feeding the TH-cam algorithm. Good, expected explanation.
11 doesn't seem to concerned by Hu's "condition" in that clip. It's almost like he doesn't *want* Hu to be there.
Those envelops had a list of names on it, most likely the names of people who will be appointed. I believe the list Hu had was different than the others, so he gets tricked into saying yes on the group vote.
This is laughable, that list was decided weeks prior to the Congress, so everybody knew including his "faction". Stop consuming propaganda uncritically, that rots your brain.
BBC: Avoid talking about Europe energy crisis. Trading opium for tea is better yo
😎
@@condorX2 what Europe energy crisis? what's Europe?
Most likely, thats why he was stopped to opening the folder
@@condorX2 Okay computer
The essence of this footage is not focused on the removal of Mr Hu but the deadly straight looks of other people including Li Keqiang， Wen ka po, 胡春華etc.
Xi flexing on li n hu in front of everyone to let them know nobody is safe. N everyone else acted accordingly just as he hoped. He is untouchable now
The document has some hard evidence that indicates what Xi did was probably a coup, that might cause Hu might say something to the public. Xi thought Hu potentially could stop his coup (Hu may not have any thought of doing that). What Xi did was to order his guard (the mask guy) to prevent Hu potentially stop Xi's coup. Other people on the same row realized right away what was really going on. But all of them are scared of getting severely punished later on. Any actions including eye contacts at that time from anyone could be used as evidence later to against that person, the consequence could be as serious as a lifetime jail or even death sentence. Strictly speaking, disregard all previous actions by Xi behind the door, Xi's action of depriving Hu's right in this video alone is already a coup by itself.
I believe what China said as they are not disingenuous at all.
Who'd have thought that granting a man unrivalled power for an unlimited time might lead to bad things happening? I mean, it's not like it's ever happened in history before. Except for Caesar, Chairman Mau, Pol Pot, Hitler, Putin, Castro...
And Trump, except he lost 🤣😂😅
@@Lenny.262 I love when idiots think they've made a good point.
Castro.... really that is American politics speaking
@@aslambhatti8932 I'm not American thankfully. And yes, Castro had unchallenged power over Cuba until his death.
yeah the horrors of the ability to take a rest