I have found quite a difference with my aiming and make % when playing on clean surfaces vs the dirty tables / balls in most bar setups. My setup at home is pristine but I always come down a notch when playing league and seem to miss the simple ones. Any tips on aiming thicker / thinner between the two?
As for the ball polisher, I tried a Harbor freight polisher, or should I say tried 3 of them, They break up. I ended up using a Ryobi buffer with the battery pack harbor freight buffing pad and the 5 gallon bucket with side cut out to reach the power switch and two two by four pieces holding up the handles of the polisher(screwed them to the side of the bucket. Used nylon type carpet on the sides hooked in with velcro and carpet tape. Seems to been working well no plastic parts coming off the polisher. Use Carnuba wax, pea size drop on every ball, run 8 balls at a time. Then when finished I use 409 and paper towels to clean off the buffer pad surface because it gets super grimey.
Good video Josh. Re the felt direction, this is mainly for snooker tables which have a much thicker nap than pool tables and need to be brushed from balk/baulk end to the bottom end. Then ironed ideally with a heavy table iron, again in 1 direction and consistently.
Little Timmy said, Maybe you should clean up your act instead of your table so you will get out of apa Jail. 🤣🤣🤣 just kidding bro keep up the good work. Hope you get reinstated soon.
I use dollar store lint rollers. The stuff doesn't get in the pockets. They are cheap and it seems to make the cloth accept English a little better. I also use a vacuum but it is a handheld small unit.
1. Agree sorta on the X1, if you are brushing and vacuuming and using the cue silk, that is better, but I've found (at least in my exp) using the X1 as intended is better than using a brush by itself. 2. Cue silk is good stuff, been using it for over a year, every month or so. 3, yeah, make yourself a ball polisher as you said in another comment, got a diamond BP about 6 months ago, and polish every week, and it makes a big difference, crazy how much stuff gets on the balls, and then transfers to the cloth, helps keep the cloth cleaner too. keep it up my man
It seems to me, if you just did a section at a time, you wouldn't need to wet it as much. Spraying the whole table lightly allows the cleaner to dry up, before you get to it.
So for the rails I use alcohol to dissolve any left over polish and hand oils. I have tried that wax out but it doesn't bring out the shine as good as the pledge. After using like 5 different polishes including the recommended bees wax. Pledge for the win. For cloth woolite and distilled water. Also not a bad idea to open the access doors and put some compressed air down pockets. You will be surprised at what comes out.
First just wanted to say love watching your videos, only been following for a month or so but I have watched a decent bit of content. Also need to say I've only been really playing somewhat seriously for about 3 months or so and before that mainly messed around on a table that my grandfather had as a kid with my brother(who is the person that recently got me into APA) Just recently bought a cheap Valley 7FT barbox for my brother and I to practice on so i wanted to know how to properly care for a table so I did a bit of research. Few complaints of mine would be i dont see much point in brushing the table and then vacuuming, vacuum should remove the majority of the chalk built up in the cloth and brushing before vacuuming will just cause the ball return to just get more dirty. Brushing after vaccuming would make more sense since part of the reason to brush is to get the cloth all the running the same way so the balls roll true(I believe you should always brush in the direction you break from), although probably not much issue with a higher quality cloth like Simmonis. Don't recommend putting those bolts with those sharp looking washers on a tightly stretched cloth. I know the whole vaccum use can be a bit of a debate but I have no idea why you would actually put your entire vaccum cleaner on the table instead of just buying horsehair vaccum attatchment for the hose of your vaccum and use that specifically for the pool table.(people say the one that comes with a Dyson is the best)Quite cheap and less likely to damamge the cloth. I've seen people recommend spray a away foaming glass cleaner on both rails and on the cloth, no experience with it though. I certainly wouldn't spray that wax directly onto the rail, as to not potentially get any on the cloth I'd spray it on a rag first. I hope its not the body of that LO that got you temporarily banned from APA you're hiding in the closet 😂. Also I wouldn't mind seeing more of those mic'd up videos, thought the one I saw with Mike(Or Eric?) was pretty entertaining!
First - I appreciate you watching. I brush before vacuuming because I'm using the vacuum, without the brushes rotating. Brushing before hand brings all the loose chalk up to the surface so I can suck it up with the vacuum. As for the rest of your critics, I've always done it this way and never had a problem. As for brushing in 1 direction - this is simonis cloth. it's woven so, the one direction thing doesn't really matter (in my opinion). Maybe on some thick bar felt, it would matter. Thanks for the comment!
Oh I forgot to mention the biggest thing to help keep your table cleaned would be to keep your balls clean. Specifically I would look into homemade pool ball cleaner(5 gallon bucket, shag carpet and a cheap orbital polisher) will have your balls looking brand new and shiny with minimal effort.
@jmmyjimmy106 for sure.. i hand clean/ polish them right now. Been thinking about making one of those homeade ball cleaners. I'll make a video on it, if i do. Thanks again!
@JustMe-ut5rn i appreciate that. Taking second place was awesome. I joke about it but, it was a great experience. That's actually what motivated me to put in long practice hours and get better.
I bought the Simonis X-1 a year or two ago, and to be honest, I forgot I had it until this video. I used it a few times when I got it and I could not tell the difference after using it. It was and is a waste of $100. I wish I would have never bought it. You're going to love this, but I bought it because FX Billiards said it worked well. I think he was maybe trying to get Simonis to sponsor him, even tho he already had (has) Predator as a sponsor.
No need to take the rails of get a horse hair brush extension on you vacuum wond . Vacuum the cloth and rails. The take the X-1 device sold for simonis cloth to clean further. Last step take one part woolite to 10 parts cold water and lightly dampen a microfiber towel and wipe the cloth and rails. Works well for my two diamond tables in my basement.
Hey Josh. Spray some hair spray on the cloth then. Use a vacuum on the table a lot of the dirt and chalk will stick to the hairspray. Then clean the cloth like you did with that spray you used.
Hello from Ohio. Im coming to Rochester Hills later today and staying until Thursday. I think we’re about a half hour drive away. I’ll be bringing my sticks. Let me know if you’re interested in playing some. I’ve gotten hooked on your videos. I enjoy the commentary.
What size table do you have, and what's the size of your room. I'm thinking of getting a 7ft diamond but will have to get some 52" sticks to deal with my 12`6" wide room.
@Amateur_Pool Diamond says 13'6" for a 58" cue, but that doesn't account for a back stroke when doing the math. Accounting for backstroke would make it 14-14'6", allowing a 3-6" backstroke.
I just order the simonis foot spots from Amazon. The little white circles are just paper punch reinforcements. I use them to mark shots on the table that I want to practice.
I don't brush my table. I was advised by a friend who reconditions tables that constant brushing reduces the life of the cloth. I just vacuum. It seems you need a ball polisher (insert joke here). Bro, your balls are filthy, lol.
I have found quite a difference with my aiming and make % when playing on clean surfaces vs the dirty tables / balls in most bar setups. My setup at home is pristine but I always come down a notch when playing league and seem to miss the simple ones. Any tips on aiming thicker / thinner between the two?
Best quote of a lesson a guy in a pool room told me-"never slow roll a ball on a bar table son"
I hit harder on dirty bar tables
I agree with the previous comments. I don't try to finesse the balls on a bar table. I play a lot of stun/harder shots
As for the ball polisher, I tried a Harbor freight polisher, or should I say tried 3 of them, They break up. I ended up using a Ryobi buffer with the battery pack harbor freight buffing pad and the 5 gallon bucket with side cut out to reach the power switch and two two by four pieces holding up the handles of the polisher(screwed them to the side of the bucket. Used nylon type carpet on the sides hooked in with velcro and carpet tape. Seems to been working well no plastic parts coming off the polisher. Use Carnuba wax, pea size drop on every ball, run 8 balls at a time. Then when finished I use 409 and paper towels to clean off the buffer pad surface because it gets super grimey.
I'm thinking about making one with a battery operated buffer. Would be cool to have one that you don't have to plug in
The camera work in the beginning of this video gave me permanent vertigo. Thanks a lot!
Np
Good video Josh. Re the felt direction, this is mainly for snooker tables which have a much thicker nap than pool tables and need to be brushed from balk/baulk end to the bottom end. Then ironed ideally with a heavy table iron, again in 1 direction and consistently.
Ya, i had never heard that before
This should get more views. The dude is very energetic!
@@haydonhansen thank you!
Good Work Josh! 💪🏽
Putting in that work, lol
Little Timmy said, Maybe you should clean up your act instead of your table so you will get out of apa Jail. 🤣🤣🤣 just kidding bro keep up the good work. Hope you get reinstated soon.
That'll never happen.. been trying to clean up my act for 40yrs now, lol..
I use dollar store lint rollers. The stuff doesn't get in the pockets. They are cheap and it seems to make the cloth accept English a little better. I also use a vacuum but it is a handheld small unit.
1. Agree sorta on the X1, if you are brushing and vacuuming and using the cue silk, that is better, but I've found (at least in my exp) using the X1 as intended is better than using a brush by itself. 2. Cue silk is good stuff, been using it for over a year, every month or so. 3, yeah, make yourself a ball polisher as you said in another comment, got a diamond BP about 6 months ago, and polish every week, and it makes a big difference, crazy how much stuff gets on the balls, and then transfers to the cloth, helps keep the cloth cleaner too. keep it up my man
Thanks, Adam.. I'll probably make a polisher
It seems to me, if you just did a section at a time, you wouldn't need to wet it as much. Spraying the whole table lightly allows the cleaner to dry up, before you get to it.
@poolbob8776 good idea.
Weird question, but why do some pool tables have a quarter nested in between the slate and rail?
It's a scoring system. Coins start at center diamond. Win a game and move your coin to the next diamond, etc.
So for the rails I use alcohol to dissolve any left over polish and hand oils. I have tried that wax out but it doesn't bring out the shine as good as the pledge. After using like 5 different polishes including the recommended bees wax. Pledge for the win. For cloth woolite and distilled water. Also not a bad idea to open the access doors and put some compressed air down pockets. You will be surprised at what comes out.
Great idea!
Table turned out great Josh. 🤩👍
Thanks, Rube!
First just wanted to say love watching your videos, only been following for a month or so but I have watched a decent bit of content.
Also need to say I've only been really playing somewhat seriously for about 3 months or so and before that mainly messed around on a table that my grandfather had as a kid with my brother(who is the person that recently got me into APA)
Just recently bought a cheap Valley 7FT barbox for my brother and I to practice on so i wanted to know how to properly care for a table so I did a bit of research.
Few complaints of mine would be i dont see much point in brushing the table and then vacuuming, vacuum should remove the majority of the chalk built up in the cloth and brushing before vacuuming will just cause the ball return to just get more dirty.
Brushing after vaccuming would make more sense since part of the reason to brush is to get the cloth all the running the same way so the balls roll true(I believe you should always brush in the direction you break from), although probably not much issue with a higher quality cloth like Simmonis.
Don't recommend putting those bolts with those sharp looking washers on a tightly stretched cloth.
I know the whole vaccum use can be a bit of a debate but I have no idea why you would actually put your entire vaccum cleaner on the table instead of just buying horsehair vaccum attatchment for the hose of your vaccum and use that specifically for the pool table.(people say the one that comes with a Dyson is the best)Quite cheap and less likely to damamge the cloth.
I've seen people recommend spray a away foaming glass cleaner on both rails and on the cloth, no experience with it though. I certainly wouldn't spray that wax directly onto the rail, as to not potentially get any on the cloth I'd spray it on a rag first.
I hope its not the body of that LO that got you temporarily banned from APA you're hiding in the closet 😂. Also I wouldn't mind seeing more of those mic'd up videos, thought the one I saw with Mike(Or Eric?) was pretty entertaining!
First - I appreciate you watching. I brush before vacuuming because I'm using the vacuum, without the brushes rotating. Brushing before hand brings all the loose chalk up to the surface so I can suck it up with the vacuum. As for the rest of your critics, I've always done it this way and never had a problem. As for brushing in 1 direction - this is simonis cloth. it's woven so, the one direction thing doesn't really matter (in my opinion). Maybe on some thick bar felt, it would matter. Thanks for the comment!
Oh I forgot to mention the biggest thing to help keep your table cleaned would be to keep your balls clean. Specifically I would look into homemade pool ball cleaner(5 gallon bucket, shag carpet and a cheap orbital polisher) will have your balls looking brand new and shiny with minimal effort.
@jmmyjimmy106 for sure.. i hand clean/ polish them right now. Been thinking about making one of those homeade ball cleaners. I'll make a video on it, if i do. Thanks again!
@Amateur_Pool brushing in one direction really only applies to snooker tables where thier felt is almost like a short velvet hiar in the felt.
unrelated to this video but did you get the apa issue resolved. did you get re instated?
not yet. The lady that processes the appeal emails was out this week. I'll likely hear next week on it.
Great video Josh. Glad to see you put some work in :)
lol - about time I did something! :)
@@Amateur_Pool APA just recommended a video of you last year at the 8 ball classic finals! I didn't know you are a celebrity!
@@JustMe-ut5rn lol.. ya, i was the first loser! 🤣😂
You are definitely not a loser@@Amateur_Pool
@JustMe-ut5rn i appreciate that. Taking second place was awesome. I joke about it but, it was a great experience. That's actually what motivated me to put in long practice hours and get better.
If APA doesn't reinstate you soon,I bet we will be watching videos of you cleaning the lint trap in the drier in the coming weeks.
😂😂
That's funny. No league this week, Thanksgiving. I'll still be playing matches either way. If not APA, then a different league
@@Amateur_Pool I play mostly ACS here
@@AAAskeet I'll be playing a different league if the APA doesn't do the right thing and reinstate me
As mutch as you play Josh that should probably be done more often lol! Nothing easy when it comes to a pool table! Keep up the good work Josh!
Lol, right! I do wipe it down a lot but, deep cleaning takes to much time to do it to often. I do it maybe 2-3 times a year, like this
@@Amateur_Pool seems like that should be enough. It was pretty dirty! Good job though
@@JamesWells513 thanks
i've always vacuumed my tables too - always seems the best for me.. i have a handheld dirt devil that does the trick nicely.
Ya, I've always done it too
Only recommendation is to not wear a hoodie when doing this as you were sweating so damn much, you probably lost 2 pounds lol.
lol - that's what happens when your fat like me, lol!
I bought the Simonis X-1 a year or two ago, and to be honest, I forgot I had it until this video. I used it a few times when I got it and I could not tell the difference after using it. It was and is a waste of $100. I wish I would have never bought it. You're going to love this, but I bought it because FX Billiards said it worked well. I think he was maybe trying to get Simonis to sponsor him, even tho he already had (has) Predator as a sponsor.
Ya.. i didn't see it help any more than a micro fiber rag.
No need to take the rails of get a horse hair brush extension on you vacuum wond . Vacuum the cloth and rails. The take the X-1 device sold for simonis cloth to clean further. Last step take one part woolite to 10 parts cold water and lightly dampen a microfiber towel and wipe the cloth and rails. Works well for my two diamond tables in my basement.
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Hey Josh.
Spray some hair spray on the cloth then. Use a vacuum on the table a lot of the dirt and chalk will stick to the hairspray.
Then clean the cloth like you did with that spray you used.
that sounds like a great idea but, I think i'd be too scared to spray hairspray on it, lol
@@Amateur_Pool
Yeah don't get crazy with it
I do the same thing. The only difference is I use a different vacuum and a differenrent cleaner I use quick clean. . I also clean after every match.
I wipe it down every night but, only deep clean, like this, a couple of times per year
@Amateur_Pool I hear you. I feel weird if I don't vacuum before we play.. I guess that's why most bar tables gross me out🤣
@@losoj30 lol.. i just like NOT having blue hands when I'm done playing
Hello from Ohio. Im coming to Rochester Hills later today and staying until Thursday. I think we’re about a half hour drive away. I’ll be bringing my sticks. Let me know if you’re interested in playing some. I’ve gotten hooked on your videos. I enjoy the commentary.
I think I'll be recording some money/challenge matches at Side Pocket, in Lapeer, tomorrow (Monday) afternoon/night. You're welcome to come on up
What size table do you have, and what's the size of your room. I'm thinking of getting a 7ft diamond but will have to get some 52" sticks to deal with my 12`6" wide room.
This is a 7ft table. It's in my basement. I had to move a pole to make it comfortable, lol. I think you need like 14 x 17 ft space for a 7ft table
@Amateur_Pool Diamond says 13'6" for a 58" cue, but that doesn't account for a back stroke when doing the math. Accounting for backstroke would make it 14-14'6", allowing a 3-6" backstroke.
Where do you get your table spots?! Those white ones are clean.
I just order the simonis foot spots from Amazon. The little white circles are just paper punch reinforcements. I use them to mark shots on the table that I want to practice.
Does Maguires handle beer stains?
Lol.. not sure. Never had any beer spills. Pretty strict about keeping drinks away from the cloth
Lol! Using the 100 dollar tool wet. Bro, that for dry use to pull chalk dust. Mine works awesome. Read instructions for once.
i def. did use it that way, when I first got it. I was never impressed by it. A micro fiber cloth works better, imo
Why brush if you are gonna vacuum?
I'm using the vacuum without brushes (just suction). brushing before hand bring all that lose chalk up to the surface so the vacuum can suck it up.
@@Amateur_Pool yeah just gets it everywhere though. I use my Dyson with a handheld mattress attachment.
I don't brush my table. I was advised by a friend who reconditions tables that constant brushing reduces the life of the cloth. I just vacuum. It seems you need a ball polisher (insert joke here). Bro, your balls are filthy, lol.
I polished then too but, did it off video, by hand. I'm thinking about making a ball polisher
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Nice!