I helped collecting the evidence and coming up with hypothesis with Nomad Colossus for his video "Beta Colossi recap" years ago. Any new evidence is a massive step for the community, I will be following the updates with interest to see if they confirm or confute our theories presented in that video! In particular the map of speculated colossi locations. You should contact Nomad btw, some of the textures listed here were actually found by him. For example lb_iwahada, sea_dammy and dry_ground from hillock comes from square I7 as seen at 4:22 of the Beta colossi recap video, where we speculated was the Griffin arena. Edit: I see now he is already part of the team ahah
This whole datamine still blows my mind! I felt like that we were at a point where everything we could reasonably discover about this game was already discovered, but then this PS3 datasheet was discovered and turns out we only knew half of the iceberg. Great video guys, can't wait to see more! 👍
You guys are incredible! To be able to make discoveries about this masterpiece all these years later because of people like you guys just blows me away!
1:47 something tells me that the spider was either *extremely* complex and well programmed or was one of the last colossi to get deleted from the game.
*"At the first public debut of Shadow of the Colossus, several Colossi were displayed in material distributed to the press. The bird-type Colossus (Phoenix) and spider-type Colossus were nearly completed."*
Bro!!! Are we finally gonna have concrete new info on the Unused Colossi?!?!? this is huge man!!!! this game is 15 years old and there's still new stuff!
This is one of the reasons why I love SOTC, this along side the soul series has the most interesting lore/information in the cut content, good job You have a new suscription.
The fact these were found is still crazy to me, I didn't really think much else could be found in the files. Especially because SotC is over 15 years old now, and the code of the game has been looked over countless times so I never really thought we would find much more in the files. But I guess that's what I get for constantly underestimating this game's community, genuinely incredible and good job to everyone involved, you'll never cease to amaze me :)
I think this'd be _really_ useful for the Beyond the Forbidden Lands project. Once things get a lot more refined, this data could be used to recreate some of these colossi
Next video: We discover the 3D models of the unused colossi. The next video after that: We discover the commands to animate and program the unused colossi.
It's not impossible to find one of these beta versions of SOTC that has some of the colossi excluded, last year they managed to find the prototype for the Shrek film
From what we know Monkey was the first cut, then Griffin, after that best guess would be Buddha getting changed into Malus while the others all survived into the RHB, the last two cut were probably Roc and Worm
Here is the order that I believe in which they were cut, earliest to newest; 10. Saru 9. Evis 8. Griffin 7. Yamori 6. Worm 5. Sirius 4. Devil 3. Phoenix 2. Spider 1. Roc
That is amazing! Do you think the ps3 files where added for a attempt at putting the unused colossi in the game but was too hard to programme and execute all over again (including the whole redesign process) or that these texeg files where originally ported from ps2 game but in ps2 where hidden away under admin /developer mode only and somehow they forgot to hide away these files in game? Orr maybe they put it intentionally to wait and be found so they can stir things up among the speculations and SOTC community.. Regardless these are astounding discoveries!!
This is an amazing find and I've subscribed to see what you get out of this! One thing that's confusing me is the existence of Yamori A. When was this colossus discovered? Followed Nomad for a while but I don't seem to remember a mention of it?
Team Stage 0, what can you tell me about the original Evis model, how different was evis suppose to be if we actually got that version instead of the final boss we got.
It isn't actually the weakpoints that are missing, just the sigils. Early in development the colossi didn't have sigils to show the weak points meaning devil was cut before they were added to his model
@@PedroCage cara a cagada do monkey pelo que o próprio vídeo mostra ele quase não tem linha de programação, praticamente não fizeram movimentação pra ele e nem programaram a inteligência artificial,ou seja,se os fãs forem refazer a luta dele vai ter que ser tudo inventado ou seja,o que veremos vai ser mais trabalho de fã do que algo que se aproxima do que realmente o monkey foi
So can you guys explain who are the extra unused colossus:yeti,kubunaga,saru_b,tobiuo,Knight_b,griffin_b,niwa snake,Buffalo. Me and my friend are resarching this,and in the ps3 arquives there are some pretty unknown colossus that don't even have models or pictures,and could you guys share the arquives,we only have all the textures of the game,we need the folders of the unused colossus,and we made the 3 maps they are in the textures but nomad alredy made them. So please help us and if you can't i understand. Ps:i'm brazilian Sorry for the bad english
@@mrroblinx this makes sense but like knigth_b don't make sense because like it needed to knigth_a to exist,and saru_b is a variant of an alredy deleted colossi.
@@Daniel_Kaiba Gaius (3) is referred as knight by the developers. Anyway the fan made wiki has a lot of info, try this:(teamico.fandom.com/wiki/Colossi_Stages ) maybe it can help teamico.fandom.com/wiki/Unused_Colossi Here they even mention the ones you listed. The only ones without any evidence are Buffalo, Yeti and Kubonaga.
bro, are you gonna play the Tribute? it looks like the public BETA is almost ready, are you going to play? I'm so excited to be able to defeat Sirius...
No this codes Are just in PS3 version because bluepoint at the time have the access to all the original archives from the Development that was give it to them by Team ico to make the resmatered and they just forget to deleted that codes from the final version of PS3
Im kinda stupid, but are theae discovieries basically just the names of where the quadrants of the unused collosi are? What does this help with? With figuring out how the colossi worked, where they were, how far in development they were?? Genuinely confused
It shows every texture used by the unused colossi and unused arenas, that helps a lot in figuring out in which quadrants they lived. It also brought us the chip data that gives us an idea of how a quadrant looked like. We also know the order in which the colossi were created thanks to the sheets. They also list a lot of unused objects and functions which don't exist anymore, and a lot of times they are essencial to figuring out how the unused colossi worked. For example, because of the sheet data we know that: Spider shot lasers like Basaran, Phoenix and Devil used to fly, H4 and F8 were not colossi quadrants originally, and much more. We'll be talking about a lot of these things in the future, so wait until then.
@@teamstage0987 holy shit that's huge!! Thanks for translating for me. I'm really into the unused collosi stuff but i am not very technical and understand coding and faces like that. That is truly amazing!! Was anything found on the yeti collosi or anything big on dionin worm? Everytime i look things up on Dionin all i hear is that he is the least known of the unused collosi and all his pics look like art more then actual game screenshots, ive also wondered who was the original end colosi? Was it always Malus? I know this will get covered and i cant wait for it then, I'm subbing. Thanks so much for sharing these wonderful discoveries! Those are truly huge!
@@nonnone7060 It seems like they didn't have a final boss before Buddha (Early Malus) was made into one (Evis/Final Malus). In old footage, the final boss statue has a placeholder Valus statue, so it does just seem like they didn't decide until very late. That's my take on it.
@@Jaikhay231 I always felt malus was out of place in terms of a final colossi. Espically looking at the unused collosi like Abeth and Dionin, they seemed wayy more crazy then any of the colossi we had. Like 3 minatours?? Malus always seemed to me like "wow its impressive that he's the biggest" but he wasn't that special enough to be the LAST one. Dionin would seem more fitting. Or even Abeth who was creepy. I always imaged that Abeth's body would be the size of a building and look like one, where you would enter inside and then realize you are IN the collosi. Then he would rise from the ground and you would have to get down from him instead of going up to actually fight him with agro as he moves around the map
@Xxero Chronicles Dionin as the final boss? Sorry but that wouldn't be good at all, it was just a worm, don't believe in the "worm was the largest and most powerful colossus" rumors, or any rumor related to it period lol. I think Evis is the perfect final boss, as even they couldn't come up with a better one
Even nowadays I still get surprised by how people are capable of discovering new things about this game. Keep up the good work!
Title doesn’t lie, these are massive discoveries!
I helped collecting the evidence and coming up with hypothesis with Nomad Colossus for his video "Beta Colossi recap" years ago. Any new evidence is a massive step for the community, I will be following the updates with interest to see if they confirm or confute our theories presented in that video! In particular the map of speculated colossi locations.
You should contact Nomad btw, some of the textures listed here were actually found by him. For example lb_iwahada, sea_dammy and dry_ground from hillock comes from square I7 as seen at 4:22 of the Beta colossi recap video, where we speculated was the Griffin arena.
Edit: I see now he is already part of the team ahah
This whole datamine still blows my mind! I felt like that we were at a point where everything we could reasonably discover about this game was already discovered, but then this PS3 datasheet was discovered and turns out we only knew half of the iceberg. Great video guys, can't wait to see more! 👍
You guys are incredible! To be able to make discoveries about this masterpiece all these years later because of people like you guys just blows me away!
Here we go! Finally! This is where the fun begins! You all are in for some colossal finds indeed!
1:47 something tells me that the spider was either *extremely* complex and well programmed or was one of the last colossi to get deleted from the game.
*"At the first public debut of Shadow of the Colossus, several Colossi were displayed in material distributed to the press. The bird-type Colossus (Phoenix) and spider-type Colossus were nearly completed."*
The spider is so late that its legs appear on Dormin's back at the end of the game.
It’s amazing to know that people still so passionate and devoted to this game. Pls keep going with this awesome work
The mystery never truly ends.
Bro!!! Are we finally gonna have concrete new info on the Unused Colossi?!?!? this is huge man!!!! this game is 15 years old and there's still new stuff!
Devil's Plain, The Monkey Cave, and the Worm's dune, we are so close !!!!!
Impressive, I thought that we had already discovered everything there could be discovered in the game, but I' glad I was wrong :)
This is one of the reasons why I love SOTC, this along side the soul series has the most interesting lore/information in the cut content, good job You have a new suscription.
Considering a few of these colossi were nearly done, it just makes you wonder what could've been
These are, for sure, huge discoveries. I'm excited for what comes next 💜
The fact these were found is still crazy to me, I didn't really think much else could be found in the files. Especially because SotC is over 15 years old now, and the code of the game has been looked over countless times so I never really thought we would find much more in the files. But I guess that's what I get for constantly underestimating this game's community, genuinely incredible and good job to everyone involved, you'll never cease to amaze me :)
Why this amazes me is that it just shows you every video game is much longer than we know of
I think this'd be _really_ useful for the Beyond the Forbidden Lands project. Once things get a lot more refined, this data could be used to recreate some of these colossi
Next video: We discover the 3D models of the unused colossi.
The next video after that: We discover the commands to animate and program the unused colossi.
It's not impossible to find one of these beta versions of SOTC that has some of the colossi excluded, last year they managed to find the prototype for the Shrek film
damn it crazy for how long the secret seekers collecting more and more secrets goodwork guys
Amazing discovery! I have already subscribed to the channel but now I will turn on the notifications!
you guys are amazing
You can tell what Colossi were cut earlier than others, a lot of them don’t even have weak points added in yet.
From what we know Monkey was the first cut, then Griffin, after that best guess would be Buddha getting changed into Malus while the others all survived into the RHB, the last two cut were probably Roc and Worm
Here is the order that I believe in which they were cut, earliest to newest;
10. Saru
9. Evis
8. Griffin
7. Yamori
6. Worm
5. Sirius
4. Devil
3. Phoenix
2. Spider
1. Roc
This is so exciting! You guys are amazing, keep up the good work! 🤩
Fantastic Discovery!! I liked these names for the new arenas! Thanks for sharing this vídeo!
:D it's so invigorating to know that im not the only one still playing/secret seeking in sotc. I can't wait you see what you'll find! :)
Just one word: AMAZING
Amazing work!
Instant subscribe be like:
wow incredible news, it was this video i was looking for, now i can sleep in peace.
So there is another unused Colossus. That's pretty good. Maybe they are really have 48 Colossus.
nice video guys :)
Bro you're the one of the sotc best youtuber,subscribed
That is amazing! Do you think the ps3 files where added for a attempt at putting the unused colossi in the game but was too hard to programme and execute all over again (including the whole redesign process) or that these texeg files where originally ported from ps2 game but in ps2 where hidden away under admin /developer mode only and somehow they forgot to hide away these files in game? Orr maybe they put it intentionally to wait and be found so they can stir things up among the speculations and SOTC community.. Regardless these are astounding discoveries!!
I think it's the second option somewhat, bluepoint likely received the source code of the game, and forgot to delete the unused sheets
@@teamstage0987 lets thanks bluepoint later hauahahaha
Great content.
Sotc really is a bottomless iceberg.
This is an amazing find and I've subscribed to see what you get out of this! One thing that's confusing me is the existence of Yamori A. When was this colossus discovered? Followed Nomad for a while but I don't seem to remember a mention of it?
It was discovered January of this year (2021), yeah its has been recently discovered
@@Labrador_Feliz thats a lie, its been known about for awhile
Hype hype hypeeeee
OMFG! So fuc# amazing guys! Tremendous discovery
Your Channel is very cool too!!
I hope you're in contact with Nomad.
Continue like that guys
Amazing!
Cool what interested in me is that saru=monkey and kusa=grass. So maybe the monkey will look like pelagia back. The grass grow on his body like fur.
still waiting for fan modders to use this to just make the colossi themselves
They are, two separate projects are doing that; Beyond the Forbidden Lands, which’s stems for accuracy and Tribute, which stems for unique gameplay
Amazing! 😍❤️
Team Stage 0, what can you tell me about the original Evis model, how different was evis suppose to be if we actually got that version instead of the final boss we got.
Devil doesn't have weakpoints in it, we still don't know why it was cut.
It isn't actually the weakpoints that are missing, just the sigils. Early in development the colossi didn't have sigils to show the weak points meaning devil was cut before they were added to his model
NOMAD! WHERE ARE YOU?!
All this time.... How did I not know there was a Yamori_A? I mean... I should've guessed, but.... Huh...
Sou fascinado por esses colossus excluídos, parecem tão legais.
Tb Man.. Principalmente o monkey
Principalmente o monkey
@@PedroCage doente
@@Mr.Vanims doente é tu heuhe... O que mais fascina é o mistério fio
@@PedroCage cara a cagada do monkey pelo que o próprio vídeo mostra ele quase não tem linha de programação, praticamente não fizeram movimentação pra ele e nem programaram a inteligência artificial,ou seja,se os fãs forem refazer a luta dele vai ter que ser tudo inventado ou seja,o que veremos vai ser mais trabalho de fã do que algo que se aproxima do que realmente o monkey foi
So can you guys explain who are the extra unused colossus:yeti,kubunaga,saru_b,tobiuo,Knight_b,griffin_b,niwa snake,Buffalo.
Me and my friend are resarching this,and in the ps3 arquives there are some pretty unknown colossus that don't even have models or pictures,and could you guys share the arquives,we only have all the textures of the game,we need the folders of the unused colossus,and we made the 3 maps they are in the textures but nomad alredy made them.
So please help us and if you can't i understand.
Ps:i'm brazilian Sorry for the bad english
Please help us
Those colossi are likely to be earlier versions of the final 16: Griffin B is Celosia, Tobiuo is Hydrus... etc
@@mrroblinx But what is kubonaga?
@@mrroblinx this makes sense but like knigth_b don't make sense because like it needed to knigth_a to exist,and saru_b is a variant of an alredy deleted colossi.
@@Daniel_Kaiba Gaius (3) is referred as knight by the developers. Anyway the fan made wiki has a lot of info, try this:(teamico.fandom.com/wiki/Colossi_Stages ) maybe it can help
teamico.fandom.com/wiki/Unused_Colossi Here they even mention the ones you listed. The only ones without any evidence are Buffalo, Yeti and Kubonaga.
bro, are you gonna play the Tribute? it looks like the public BETA is almost ready, are you going to play? I'm so excited to be able to defeat Sirius...
when was yamori A discovered?
Finally
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Could this mean that there were plans to re-integrate the unused colossi in the PS3 remake, either as DLC or as part of the base game?
That or the PS3 version was ported from a complete, but pre-release, version of the game?
No this codes Are just in PS3 version because bluepoint at the time have the access to all the original archives from the Development that was give it to them by Team ico to make the resmatered and they just forget to deleted that codes from the final version of PS3
What’s the last ost? Haven’t heard that one before
Unused song from SOTC called "Anger"
Im kinda stupid, but are theae discovieries basically just the names of where the quadrants of the unused collosi are? What does this help with? With figuring out how the colossi worked, where they were, how far in development they were?? Genuinely confused
It shows every texture used by the unused colossi and unused arenas, that helps a lot in figuring out in which quadrants they lived.
It also brought us the chip data that gives us an idea of how a quadrant looked like.
We also know the order in which the colossi were created thanks to the sheets.
They also list a lot of unused objects and functions which don't exist anymore, and a lot of times they are essencial to figuring out how the unused colossi worked.
For example, because of the sheet data we know that: Spider shot lasers like Basaran, Phoenix and Devil used to fly, H4 and F8 were not colossi quadrants originally, and much more.
We'll be talking about a lot of these things in the future, so wait until then.
@@teamstage0987 holy shit that's huge!! Thanks for translating for me. I'm really into the unused collosi stuff but i am not very technical and understand coding and faces like that. That is truly amazing!! Was anything found on the yeti collosi or anything big on dionin worm? Everytime i look things up on Dionin all i hear is that he is the least known of the unused collosi and all his pics look like art more then actual game screenshots, ive also wondered who was the original end colosi? Was it always Malus? I know this will get covered and i cant wait for it then, I'm subbing. Thanks so much for sharing these wonderful discoveries! Those are truly huge!
@@nonnone7060 It seems like they didn't have a final boss before Buddha (Early Malus) was made into one (Evis/Final Malus). In old footage, the final boss statue has a placeholder Valus statue, so it does just seem like they didn't decide until very late.
That's my take on it.
@@Jaikhay231 I always felt malus was out of place in terms of a final colossi. Espically looking at the unused collosi like Abeth and Dionin, they seemed wayy more crazy then any of the colossi we had. Like 3 minatours?? Malus always seemed to me like "wow its impressive that he's the biggest" but he wasn't that special enough to be the LAST one. Dionin would seem more fitting. Or even Abeth who was creepy. I always imaged that Abeth's body would be the size of a building and look like one, where you would enter inside and then realize you are IN the collosi. Then he would rise from the ground and you would have to get down from him instead of going up to actually fight him with agro as he moves around the map
@Xxero Chronicles Dionin as the final boss? Sorry but that wouldn't be good at all, it was just a worm, don't believe in the "worm was the largest and most powerful colossus" rumors, or any rumor related to it period lol. I think Evis is the perfect final boss, as even they couldn't come up with a better one
So we have anything about Yeti
No, yeti is only referenced as a “boss” and nothing else is known
Yamori a looks like an kuromori early in production
The early Kuromori looks very different to the early Yamori_A.
1:38 how is that monkey? Sorry I’m dumb but the other texts usually have the collosi names but this doesn’t mention monkey at all
Saru_A is monkeys name in the code
@@KrateKarrot saru = monkey in japanese.