0:07 Marriage as Consecrated Friendship. From The Life of St. Seraphim of Sarov. A Great Ascetic, A Great Monk yearing for God. 0:47 St. Seraphim had a great love and appreciation for Marriage 1:10 St. Seraphim of Sarov interaction with his Spiritual Son, Nicholas Motovilov 2:15 Heart Instructions. 2:47 Consoling Nicholas' Grief. 3:13 3:41 Consecrate an 8 Year Old to Nicholas Motovilov? How? 4:25 In Friendship. Marry Her. 4:46 She is like an angel. 6:34 5:11 Don't be ashamed she is a simple peasant. 5:47 Consecrated Friendship.
when one stops using their own mind to solve issues & simply gives in to God's plan, they will never be unhappy, for which father when their child is hungry doesn't feed them to stave off hunger, sometimes though a father may have the child go without for a while, for a lesson is in the making....
This is a bit strange to hear. I would love to hear you talk more about their relationship, Fr. Seraphim and his spiritual child and his future wife, or perhaps where can I read a detailed account?
Many of us women marry men older than us.... where is the creepiness? Hearing it worded that she was 8 , doesn't sound creepy by the time both are in adulthood
Forgive me, but I listened to the wonderful reading of this conversation you referenced and reviewed the transcript twice, but did not find the section on Motovilov’s marriage. Might you provide more detail?
She was 8yrs old at the time the conversation between Nicholas (who was also young) and St Seraphim occurred. Nicholas was disappointed because he wanted to marry a different woman right away, not wait until someone who was currently 8yrs old became old enough to marry (at age 16 in those days)
Good Father Josiah, the title of your video might be construed as something else or taken to mean something totally different. Marriage is marriage. We are today witness to probably the greatest attack on Christianity that we've seen since iconoclasm - the push to 'sanctify' same-sex unions. The anglicans folded after 48 hours of pressure just what, last month ? I've followed your work for a while and I know where you stand. What you are saying here though, probably meant for the audience who have the ears to hear and truly understand the message - can easily be taken out of context and misused. I dare to imagine - "Fr. Josiah reduced marriage to friendship", "It's OK to marry my friend" - or even worse, someone will extrapolate the example there given "her forefather Adam" (thereby undoing the class hierarchy, or worldly false divides) to include sex as a 'false division'. Forgive me for sounding rude or presuming more than my own station, but please do be careful. Marriage is Marriage, friendship is friendship and perhaps something got lost in translation.
The messed up part is these people will call gay and trans people “groomers” all day and night but then this actual story of grooming, it’s like they can’t see what’s wrong with it. I don’t think they actually understand what the word “grooming” means. They should be up in arms about this.
@@bananewane1402 Predicting that it will be God's will for someone to marry a certain person someday and then proceeding to have no influence on that happening almost a decade later is not comparable to introducing children's impressionable minds to certain destructive ideas and images via attendance of certain rallies and frankly traumatic curriculum and books in public education. The former has not been abnormal for thousands of years and there was no dispute that the latter is abuse up until only a few short years ago. The standard you're using to determine that the former is "messed up" is simply a distorted moral framework inherited from Western Christians that continues to increasingly lose touch with its grounding principle of the Logos and thus will continue to become more and more "progressive" i.e. revolutionary in its judgements and will likewise continue to repeatedly become unrecognizable to its proponents with every step it takes into the future. Postmodern philosophy has no idea what will be immoral tomorrow. The Logos remains the same no matter how much our various ideologies and traditions may change over time.
Father's words brought me to tears twice today, and he's simply laughing when he speaks this wisdom. Praise God
My wife is truly by God’s grace my best friend. Praise God!!!
Thank you Father for this reflection
0:07 Marriage as Consecrated Friendship. From The Life of St. Seraphim of Sarov. A Great Ascetic, A Great Monk yearing for God.
0:47 St. Seraphim had a great love and appreciation for Marriage
1:10 St. Seraphim of Sarov interaction with his Spiritual Son, Nicholas Motovilov
2:15 Heart Instructions.
2:47 Consoling Nicholas' Grief. 3:13
3:41 Consecrate an 8 Year Old to Nicholas Motovilov? How?
4:25 In Friendship. Marry Her.
4:46 She is like an angel. 6:34
5:11 Don't be ashamed she is a simple peasant.
5:47 Consecrated Friendship.
I appreciate you so much, That Time Stamp Guy. I'm so grateful we watch the same videos.
when one stops using their own mind to solve issues & simply gives in to God's plan, they will never be unhappy, for which father when their child is hungry doesn't feed them to stave off hunger, sometimes though a father may have the child go without for a while, for a lesson is in the making....
A phenomenal reflection as always Father. Thank you and please pray for us 🙏🏻 ☦️
Oh to see his light flowing through this. The undying light. Brimming in joy.
Glory to God. Glory to St. Seraphim.
This was beautiful and THANKYOU dear Pappa.
God Bless. For us caucasians, emotional responses are well studied by now.
This is a bit strange to hear. I would love to hear you talk more about their relationship, Fr. Seraphim and his spiritual child and his future wife, or perhaps where can I read a detailed account?
look up "The day of remembrance of Elena Ivanovna Motovilova" as youtube doesn't allow links
Many of us women marry men older than us.... where is the creepiness? Hearing it worded that she was 8 , doesn't sound creepy by the time both are in adulthood
The comments are open?
it seems so!
Father when did they get married?
....look up "The day of remembrance of Elena Ivanovna Motovilova" as youtube doesn't allow links..
@@guineapig55555 I can’t find anything, are there any other search terms?
Where do we read about the part where Seraphim of Sarov told his disciple that the woman was not right for him?
St. Seraphim of Sarov's Conversation With Nicholas Motovilov Part 1 on TH-cam has the story
Forgive me, but I listened to the wonderful reading of this conversation you referenced and reviewed the transcript twice, but did not find the section on Motovilov’s marriage. Might you provide more detail?
@@henrybarrett1292~~ look up "The day of remembrance of Elena Ivanovna Motovilova" as youtube doesn't allow links.
Is this young bride to be the woman who will eventually go on to give Saint Seraphim’s letter to Tsar Nicholas?
Yes
far more than frindship. union. 52 years for me
8 yrs old?
She was 8yrs old at the time the conversation between Nicholas (who was also young) and St Seraphim occurred. Nicholas was disappointed because he wanted to marry a different woman right away, not wait until someone who was currently 8yrs old became old enough to marry (at age 16 in those days)
How old was Nicolas? At the time of this situation
@@badgalyaya2303 ---look up "The day of remembrance of Elena Ivanovna Motovilova" as youtube doesn't allow links-----
Father, I like the message of the talk, but that story is just creepy. What am I missing?
Good Father Josiah, the title of your video might be construed as something else or taken to mean something totally different. Marriage is marriage. We are today witness to probably the greatest attack on Christianity that we've seen since iconoclasm - the push to 'sanctify' same-sex unions. The anglicans folded after 48 hours of pressure just what, last month ? I've followed your work for a while and I know where you stand. What you are saying here though, probably meant for the audience who have the ears to hear and truly understand the message - can easily be taken out of context and misused. I dare to imagine - "Fr. Josiah reduced marriage to friendship", "It's OK to marry my friend" - or even worse, someone will extrapolate the example there given "her forefather Adam" (thereby undoing the class hierarchy, or worldly false divides) to include sex as a 'false division'. Forgive me for sounding rude or presuming more than my own station, but please do be careful. Marriage is Marriage, friendship is friendship and perhaps something got lost in translation.
"His true bride was 8 years old at that time... It's an amazing story"
🤢🤢
What the hell have I stumbled into?
They got married 9 years later.
The messed up part is these people will call gay and trans people “groomers” all day and night but then this actual story of grooming, it’s like they can’t see what’s wrong with it. I don’t think they actually understand what the word “grooming” means. They should be up in arms about this.
@@bananewane1402 Predicting that it will be God's will for someone to marry a certain person someday and then proceeding to have no influence on that happening almost a decade later is not comparable to introducing children's impressionable minds to certain destructive ideas and images via attendance of certain rallies and frankly traumatic curriculum and books in public education. The former has not been abnormal for thousands of years and there was no dispute that the latter is abuse up until only a few short years ago. The standard you're using to determine that the former is "messed up" is simply a distorted moral framework inherited from Western Christians that continues to increasingly lose touch with its grounding principle of the Logos and thus will continue to become more and more "progressive" i.e. revolutionary in its judgements and will likewise continue to repeatedly become unrecognizable to its proponents with every step it takes into the future. Postmodern philosophy has no idea what will be immoral tomorrow. The Logos remains the same no matter how much our various ideologies and traditions may change over time.
Really wish to get married