***CARP FISHING TV*** Underwater Answers 2 With Rob Hughes
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2017
- The next instalment from Rob Hughes' new series focuses on where you should clip your spod up in relation to the spot you have found and its a real eye opener!
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I think it'll be a good idea to do a video on how far a clipped up rig falls short in different depths
Here's an idea. Why don't you include a little graph on your impact spod packaging of the difference you need to take into account on all depths from 3ft - 25ft? Great Video - eye opening.
nice idea that Louis
Yeah and maybe to be included this graph in Fox android/ios application Swim Mapper.
Louis Barker agreed, I'd love to see a vid where they test this at different depths and distances to see how the ratio differs
@@fox_international is there anything out yet explaining the difference in deeper or shallower water
Thats a good idea
Great insight. Conversely if you wanted to fish on the edge of a baited area then clip at the same distance.
Really useful tips there especially when clipping up to the marker. Great work once again from the fox team
Top tips again lads, great to see where i have been fishing wrong all these years
Thanks for the video, seeing it will improve my fishing with the confidence of knowing how to bait up accurately.
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Great follow up video to Underwater Answers with Rob Hughes.. Keep up the good work guys, once again I have certainly learnt a few things from this video.
top vid again. I think this just shows how hit and miss fishing tight to a spot can be and that it's better to put more spombs out so you get a spread of bait. really enjoy anything underwater related, thank you very much
Thank you is all I can say . What a eye opener . Pukka stuff . Once again thanks for epic tips . 🎣🎣👌
Wow, what an eye opener! I too was doing as mozz so the change is needed me thinks!
Love the underwater concept, would love to see more
Awesome vid guys, thank you so much for doing this 🖒
this opened my eyes for sure i was just sat here thinking what happens when you use a bait boat as the bait and the rigs are being dropped at the same time and the same distance just like it would be doing when spodding at the same distance to your rigs you could be sat there thinking its all good when the boat could be doing the same thing as the spod and your bait is no where near your spot
Brilliant stuff Fox.
I always take swing back into consideration that’s why you use your marker rod as your gauge and not your spomb rod etc regardless of depth.
Great video but Korda did prove this aswell.
Well that's changed my spoding Thanks Guys
eye opener their top job fox
I've always taken 1 foot off my spod for every 3ft of water depth. Looks like I need to adjust that ever so slightly. But at least I know I've already been doing it more or less spot on up to now.
Alright big bollocks already getting it right ;P
nuffinbutfishing I'm too good 😉
Carpking71 sssssssspod ahahaha
Basically I just need to hire Rob, to swim out and place my baits
Great series of videos, like em all. Like you I've given this some thought. if you apply Pythagoras rules on triangles to the distance to the lead under the marker float as the hypoteneuse then you get the following equation: Assuming a 12ft rod: 13.5 wraps = 162 feet; depth mentioned in video was 11ft; then distance from your feet to the marker float along surface of the water is = square root (162^2 - 11^2). This is 161.6 feet. Only 6 inches less than the clipped up lead. But you needed to clip up the spomb rod 3ft shorter to hit the target zone. My personal view is it is the difference in my casting style of casting the spomb rod, to casting out the clipped up lead and feeling it down on for a "donk" which makes me need to shorten the spomb rod. I now try to cast marker, spomb and fishing rod exactly the same so to hit exactly the same area. Would welcome your thoughts and comments.
So hit the clip on the rod so the rod goes horizontal?
What about your fishing rods (with mono)?
Do you hold the baited rod at 90° and feel it down?
Or
Hit the clip and lift the rod up to the depth your fishing and lower it so the lines tight?
Very informative.great video Have you had anything yet mozza since you’ve been taking the extra off 👍.
LIKE if you believe (Rob Hughes) is one of the most smartest fishermen out there!
personally i think he is an outstanding angler..
Would have been good to see where the baited rig landed while you were at it boys , mono (if you were using on the fishing rods)is obviously different and will bounce back further I think 🤔, good video all the same though
the aeroplane at the end ha
soooo: a^2 + b^2 = c^2, where c is the hypotenuse. Thanks, Pythagoras
This needs doing at 25 wraps I think there would be a massive difference ?
Great video rob and lee better than korda underwater 7 in my opinion shorter like! but we saw more of the reaction of the anglers on korda underwater 7 rather than the fishes reactions and no technical info on it either but this was video was different it was brilliant all technical and things we can ACTUALLY use in our own fishing not just Ali bouncing round a bivvy stroke dannys ego and bits that were about the reactions of fish are on a water I don't fish or am in no rush to do so. but this has confirmed things and dispelled others and will change the way I wrap up on my spot cheers fox please please do more of these there A1 lads and all the best wishes from up here in Yorkshire to ian chilli chillcot we all love him to bits he's a legend
lovely comments and we will pass on the wishes to Chilly
The reason for you being confused when figuring out the bait landed past the area, with the reclipped one is, that you hold the rod up high when reclipping. At least from my theoretical analysis 😂.
If you had held the rod horizontally when reclipping, you would have discounted the 3 ft. directly, you had discounted manually afterwords.
Great video, how it looks on 150m-160m? Of course it‘s difficult to cast in a 1m2 point but the distance would be nice to see
So do you clip your rigs up at the same distance as the marker float or take a foot off for every 4 foot of water?
That is great but what if you are using a normal floated spod would that be different the the type used in the video
OK, so our Rob does his crafty carp diving and it's fantastic, that looked like a pretty chilly day, I want to know how he keeps warm?? Is it just a case of getting used to it or is he using some specialist gear to stop him getting the chills?
Once again that was another brilliant insight into technique and adaptation, thank you.
can you test half chop boilies... I heard that it will spread out your feed... would be nice to see it
If you work this out simply using Pythagoras then the hypotenuse is the distance the marker is clipped to, the opposite is the depth of water and the adjacent in theory is the distance from the bank to the marker float on the surface. However this does not work as you are not taking into account the height of the rod at the point where the marker or spod hit the clip. This is not a right angled triangle but I would guess the difference is minimal. Having said that if you use Pythagoras the spod should be clipped 6" shorter than the marker which is what they got when Rob manually moved the spod back to the marker. I think another factor in this is that there is an element of momentum when the spod hits the water throwing the bait forward?
The only thing you didn't show was how did mozza clip his marker rod up ie rod at an angle or pointed at the lead and tightened up??
pythagoras ;) A²+B²=C²
A= distance to spod hitting the water B= depth C=distance to lead on the marker float
Remember! this only counts for the spod, the rig has to have the same length as the marker lead
Turbulenzz ⚠️ geek alert ⚠️
Geek Alert?? Basic math thats was teached at age 12/13?? That already makes me a geek?.... you must have low expectations in life i guess
Turbulenzz yeah I expecting a better reply. But you hit my low expectation lol
Thanks for the experiment guys. Now what really would be interesing to see is how reallity looks at 80-100m. Just to see the reallity.
Is there anything out yet explaining the distance at shallower or deeper water.
HI, so im trying to get my head round this, when you clipped up at 13.5 raps was the float on the bottom of the lake? if so I would of thought you would be landing past it if the spod is on the surface as the angle is different to the float is that right?
yes, the marker rod was clipped up at 13.5 and then the float was let up to the surface. So you were right, the spod at the start was landing past when also clipped up to 13.5.
The guys at korda told us this before they said one foot for every three but near enough
its actually 3,66
Greet tips fox
Why though why does the bait not land by the marker and surely if you land short of your spot your not in the zone, cant get my head around it.
IMHO: Marker should have been placed in the center of the box, this way first three spombs would have landed exactly in the center ... the way the test was conducted the target or the center of the box was exactly 3ft away from the marker that is why they needed to adjust the distance by the same length ...
Hi Irakli, The Marker was inline with the centre of the box, just off to one side so we did not catch it and drag it with the other rods. The distance needed to be adjusted because the depth of water allows the lead to win back towards the angler
its not the same distance on top of the water and on the bottom, especially when the water is deeper. learn a pitagora theorem. the marker rod is showing longest side of the triangle and you need to set the spomb to be the same as the 2nd longest side on triangle. 3rd longest side of the triangle is a depth. do some math
If you was using a deeper would then add 1ft per 4ft of depth for you rig?
Berny7337 yes to allow for the swing back
Whats Matt Hayes upto nowadays? i miss seeing him on tv hope hes well
Why does the depth matter if you're casting to a float on the surface?
Hi Darren, the float was in the video mainly as a visual marker. Most of the Fox anglers don't ever really use a float, so this was to help illustrate the affect of depth, also if you have seen part one you will know your fishing rods will need to land beyond the float, but judging how far beyond by eye is very difficult so wrapping the line out and taking the depth into account when doing that will without doubt help improve accuracy. Also as you saw in the video Lee thought his spods were landing more or less on the float but in fact they were past the float and beyond the spot.
I don't think the depth mattered but at 2:42 when mozza re clipped his rod it was at 45 degrees from horizontal, then when he was hitting the clip he was moving the rod down the extra 3 ft.... see 3:09. If he had clipped up the first time with where his rod finished in a cast he would have been more accurate.
Hi Ben, you are exactly right, Mozza didn't clip up in the position he would finish a cast when Rob held the spod over the spot. But the depth does matter. Initially the marker rod and spod rod had been clipped at exactly the same distance, yet the bait was landing 3ft further, this was due to the swing back on the marker lead in 11ft of water. Hence why after seeing the results, Lee clipped up 3ft shorter to allow for the swing back on the marker lead. If the water was deeper he would have had to clip the spod even further back because the swing back would have been greater.
Sorry, not what I meant, If you are fishing to a float then the depth does not matter as if you are clattering the float, undertow dependent (and that's a whole other kettle of fish) the bait should be following the line down to the spot that the float is tethered to. It was only because Mozza had held his rod at the wrong angle whilst re clipping that he was still going longer that the float.
If fishing without a marker float then you tests are an absolute god send, but you would still need to know the depth of the spot before you could start using the formula, so a float or similar would need to be used.
Unless there is a formula for the number of seconds at a certain range telling you the rough depth? I usually say 3-4ft a second on a 3-3.5oz lead up to as far as I can ping it. But could you test that perhaps?
That would be a very interesting one indeed, one we will bare in mind for sure.
is there an equation to work this out? good vid very interesting. But i want a definitive answer! there must be an equation regarding length of cast, depth of water and how much less to need to rap your spod???? Any people with a maths degree!
depth of the water / 3,66= how much to shorten the spomb distance
The distance must come into it too? How did you come up with 3.66? Is that just from the distance and depth on this video? Ive watch the Korda master class 5 deep water video too. Danny was fishing in 21ft at 60yards and took off 9ft. Which works out at 2.33.
It's a shame there is no cure for having terrible casting accuracy to start with which I suffer from badly haha
nuffinbutfishing I've seen 1st hand 🤣🤣
The cure is practice
So should we still believe the saying. "For every 3ft of water, take 1ft off your spod"??
Deberíais de hacer este tipo de vídeos también en español o los mismos vídeos hacerle un doblaje al español pero la idea mola.
All overthinking it. You want your baited rig with bait behind it surely? Pub chucking I catch 50s and 60s like all you Mockneys darn sarf. Fish crawl up the rods week in week out on wraysbury. Pah. Lolol 😂😂😂
I thought this was already common practice.
Perhaps in french ?