Why Vigilantism is Villainy | A DC Discussion | Criminal Law
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"Your honor, I found 7 dead orphans, drugs and the murder weapons in his house with his fingerprints and their blood on it as well as video proof of him doing it"
"Nah, you trespassed, set that other man free, *you're* going to jail you villain! Ahh Justice is Served😌"
Sadly, that is actually pretty accurate if they did trespass with the exclusionary rule…
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SH: But, your honor I heard the orphans crying and screaming and one of their hearts stopped and I realized, per Kentucky v. King (2011), that my entry was justified.
J: How did you hear the inside of a solid concrete house.
SH: I have super hearing in here everything all the time your honor.
The Prosecutor submits documents showing the superhero hasthis ability to hear a heartbeat inside of solid concrete houses.
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What then? I'm not really sure.
I mean an officer with 20/15 vision might see something that an officer with 20/30 vision would miss.
So this is a difference of degree.
You just described a Lawful Evil judge, lol!
Why the law is stupid and superheroes ignore it in 21 minutes:
So if a criminal causes another criminal to slip up or leaves them incapacitated in the middle of a crime like in a gang war. They cant be arrested? Come on
@@thenovalabs yes actually they can, there are cases where it’s happened before
@@thenovalabs it obviously depends on the situation, but yes, depending on the evidence, they cannot be arrested.
The law itself is villainy
Arrow in season one’s deff a criminal, he was just straight up killing people
Duty to Rescue Laws
Some jurisdictions have "Good Samaritan" laws that require individuals to assist others in peril, which can include intervening in a crime, provided it is safe to do so.
Common Law Principles
Common law has historically recognized rights for citizens to apprehend wrongdoers under specific conditions, especially for serious offenses like felonies.
Preventing Felonies
Many laws allow a citizen to detain an individual who is committing a felony or to prevent one from occurring.
In light of these points, a superhero who had super senses or abilities that let them for certain know a crime was being committed, could be considered to have a duty to stop crime, if it was safe for them and the victims.
I respectfully disagree on moral grounds, but you make a great "Devil's Advocate" legal arguement against superheroism, lol! Good thought experiment!
Been seeing you in the comment sections of every video on moral and ethics of Superhero vids I've seen for the past couple months
The problem with modern entertainment is that the current audience are always trying to fit what’s on screen in with reality. that takes the fun out of entertainment. I understand that movies have to present something believable to the audience for them to become engaged in what they’re watching but damn come on, it’s a movie, you gotta suspend disbelief and just enjoy
The 4th Amendment, like most of the Constitution, is under the State Actor Doctrine. This mostly means law enforcement. Private actors can be agents of the state, but if there is not an agent/principal relationship, the exclusionary rule would not apply.
@@tfox1231 that is correct, but that isn’t fully correct. By turning people into custody, they are serving the state, and thus could be placed under the same rules as the police with the exclusionary rule.
@mysteriouscameraman the state does not ask the vigilante to do so if anything they criminalize vigilantes. One may argue that fighting criminals is a traditionally state function which is a way for private parties to be state actors, but that is nowhere in your argument. But even if we are to take this argument it would fail here because in those cases ordinarily the state will ratified the conduct in some official way. Vigilantes are criminals and not state actors.
The second amendment is there to protect us when the state begins ignoring our other rights. And this mostly means law enforcement tho it used to mean military as well.
We have a few cases of the state ignoring our rights.
1) They won't enforce the law against some people.
2) They break the law and violate our rights.
3) They plant evidence and falsely accuse and imprison us.
4) They confiscate our property without due process.
Yes, if you use the second amendment, your life is probably over - you are likely to end up in prison or worse. Or spending a lot of money on legal defense at a minimum.
Interesting take on superhero thing tho.