England are THROUGH, but were the Netherlands’ ROBBED? | Euro Daily
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- England were very good against the Netherlands for the majority of their 2 - 1 win. However, some refereeing decisions overshadowed what was otherwise a top performance from England, as there was a contentious England penalty vs Netherlands, as well as a ghost foul in the build-up to England’s goal.
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Neutrals, Dutch supporters and even English supporters didn't want the ref on this match and it really showed.
This ref was convicted for matchfixing in the past. Why the hell is he allowed to ref a semi on this championship? That's crazy.
@@seppa193 the only reason he's still in the game is that he testified against the main culprits in the matchfixing case
No he wasn’t. I don’t know if you all read the same headline or something but he was suspended for having money sent to him. He was actually the whistle blower on a match fixing set up. There was no proof ever of him fixing a match. It’s not fair to keep repeating the same thing you heard the guy down the pub say after 12 pints, without bothering to find out what happened.
@@TheBenjamoose He receives money but he didnt do anything in return. It was charity then?
You guys are just too nice. Shmae you always come up against us lions.
A guy famous for match-fixing was officiating this, and let’s just say you could tell.
“Famous for” be for real you had no idea 24 hours ago. Not to mention if you did, you’d know he was an assistant referee at the time and it was the actual ref who took money he took a cut
@juancarlosalonso5664 this was my excuse when my team lost whilst he was officiating. I got over it in the end.
@@czhaok If he took a cut, he could have snitched.
@@user-dm7ql4sh3z he did
@@czhaokso he did take match fixing money 🤔
I'm English....and no way was that a penalty.
thats whz zoure not a referee. As a defender you just know not to go towards the ball with the bottom of the foot. Its dangerous play it always was dangerous play ande its always been a foul so theres no discussion at all. You just dont know the rules in im german i was rooting for the netherlands but i saw it and said im sorry netherlands but thats a penalty
It’s a foul outside the box …it’s a foul inside the box…simple
It was a penalty.
VAR is such a big disadvantage for defenders. There’s no way to challenge shots anymore, striker can just yolo it. The defender can’t be 0,1 second late. It’s an unfair disadvantage with always the biggest punishment possible (penalty). It’s not balanced anymore. The lightest brush on the face is looked at by the VAR when it’s inside the penalty box where this is ignored everywhere else on the field
You might be English but you certainly ain't no ref lad😅 Kane got the ball, and he was kicked in the foot.
Virgil van Dijk (Dutch captain) said the ref was gone immediately and not giving Virgil a handshake after the match. Very, very weird.
What do you expect some fans from the Netherlands side wanted his head After they got their win with Romania over Zwayer's calls and now it didn't go their way 😂
@@claudiukulcsar456 The UEFA should have never chosen this ref b/c of what he has done in the past. This is where the problems start. Also Bellingham for example was fined for speaking out against this ref. Now, how is it possible that this ref can play a game where Bellingham plays in. So many things do not make sense. UEFA should never have chosen this ref. You create the problem of sensitivities of the ref to partiality.
@@claudiukulcsar456Romania was washed 3-0, what are you on about, they wouldn’t win even if the ref was calling all the shots for them
@@claudiukulcsar456 what does that have to do with virgil? it's basic respect for the players you referee to at least salute the captains
The ref was gone immediately cause he went to the betting shop to cash in his bets.
Why did the VAR never checked the build up play of the penalty clear as day handball of Saka. This is why VAR is here! PENALTY should never have been given.
well it was and we won so suck it up!!!!
it shouldnt have even gone to var
@@TDtog2112 England can't win from Spain, as the NLs can't.
@@grimaffiliations3671 good one 😆
@@prity5631 ?
The choice of ref, as an England fan, was odd. UEFA risked raising the ire of Bellingham had Zwayer given a decision against England. Baffling
The pen was moreso on VAR than the ref. He didn't give it as a pen in real time, but no ref is gonna overrule VAR
@@grimaffiliations3671 not true, refs do overrule VAR, in Holland that happens.
@@SladeL Sure, but no ref is gonna do it on such a big occasion. They will play it safe
@@tbd3653 it wasnt obvious also was there a handball by Saka, about 2 seconds before. So that rules out a penalty.
@@SladeLthat's not how the rules work.
What blood pact did Southgate sign to achieve this?
Pact. From the latin pactum. A blood pack is something you would find at a hospital.
@@edmann1820No, Southgate had plenty of O+ blood type bags on hand for "donation".
Lizzie had to go for this 😔
@@edmann1820 Not the etymology 💀
@@thomassmedley💀💀
As a English fan I do believe 100 % the penalty was not a pen very soft I’m glad we won but I feel bad for the Dutch
Fellow ingerlander here. Definitely agree the pen shouldn’t have been given - feel for the Dutch there. However, I think we were still the better team tonight, so the ultimate result was fair
@@axx9149 Now they know how Mexico felt.
@@Iamthatguy194yep
Why is it though that it's always England who get these controversial calls in their favour? In the previous Euros, they also got through against Denmark on a penalty that was from a dive by Sterling - and it was what effectively made most of the world root for Italy.
@@GTAVictor9128 maybe go back and look at England's history with decision before you talk
Not sure if included in the video but saka made handball before too with his right hand that was low. Lukaku was disallowed with openda but this wasnt???
^^ some vids show part of it where it doesnt touch his hand but in the full clip it does at first contact
It came from his attempted shot and it deflected off the Dutch defender so it wouldn’t really count as a hand ball.
First the ball hits his right hand slightly then rebounds hitting his left hand.
@@leotran9259 no, watch the video.
@@matttyce903 his right hand is very clear, the ball touches his right hand and the fingers go up b/c of the touch. Now I understand the ball has a sensor in it for handball, how come VAR didnt notice? How does such a sensor work?
Southgate really haramed his way to another final. Credit where it's due to the subs.
England reached finals bc they played countries like ukraine, denmark & slovakia
The subs should be starting
Honestly, with VAR scrutinizing every single thing going on it might be a good idea to have a look at how we give penalties in general. it's just happening too much right now where a 0-10% chance of even shooting on goal becomes a 70-80% chance of scoring one from a penalty for the most minor fouls.
Why not use the same idea we have for red/yellow cards now? Denying an obvious scoring chance would still be a penalty kick . but maybe a slightly less harsh punishment for anything other than that. Like a corner kick from the edge of the box or something similar.
Yeah, just like any other sport does. The rules of football are dumb as fuck.
That's actually a pretty good idea. How is a situation judged with respect to how high the chance of scoring was? Some sort of xG statistic calculated on the fly? That may be a bit odd and not very transparent.
There used to be a time where teams were awarded an indirect free kick inside the penalty box for minor fouls. Just reimplement that rule.
Agreed! Iv been saying they need to use an "in the box foul" which is different from a penalty. There are situations where freekicks happen in the box, but so rare.
It's really the players who are to blame...they know when they've fouled, dived, hand-balled, but they'd never admit it.
I mentioned the (looked like to me ) penalty which was not given to Germany in extra time against Spain. The English ref Anthony Taylor refused to give a penalty after the ball hit the arm of Cucurella. Many said he should have gone to the VAR. It certainly looked like one, but EUFA apparently backed him up. (When Spain went on to beat France Cucurella was booed every time he touched the ball).
Getting back to penalties tho', it's said that 85% land in the back of the net. The bullshit about the goalie to more or less to be stationary on the line until the ball is hit is bollocks. (I liked the good old days of Dudek or "wobbly knees" Grobbelaar). Maybe one idea might to place the penalty spot further back 13 or 14m instead of 11 m.
How is this a pen but Cucurella’s handball wasn’t? Either both are pens or both are not pens
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Exactly, why didn’t Dumfries just used his hand! Is he dumb
I belive that he didnt put his hand there because he would get hurt, making this a high foot on harry kanes part ofensive fault@@alexwind7123
@@alexwind7123 yup
@@alexwind7123 yup
No one is talking about how Saka handballed the F out of that ball just before that BS penalty call.
The penalty was fair, it wasn't handball
@@rantymcrant-pants9536 The penalty was debatable but the Handball is a fact, not something u can argue about
@@melone8833
I certainly can. It isn't hand ball any time it touches an arm
As a Dutchman I have no problem with the result of the game, England generally played better, and they were more effective in their (admittedly) rare attacks, so I felt their win was deserved.
The referee was most questionable though.
In the end, it doesn't even matter, I think. Based on what I've seen this tournament, neither Netherlands nor England stands much of a chance against Spain.
You had a good tournament! You can be proud of a decent semi-final showing.
But yeah, Spain are probably going to wreck England! Also, that ref should have never been allowed Sunday league after match fixing once, let alone twice
There is a way England can win but Southgate won't do it. It requires playing fast and aggressive from the get go and keeping that going. Gotta score the first two goals or they will get squeezed into submission.
"english or spanish" just took a whole different level
“baby u got something in your nose” 🗣️🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥
Spanish 🗿🤣😂🤣😂
Saka made hand ball so never a penalty. Also Kane kicked Dumprhies and the ball was already gone
It was a deflection off the Dutch defender so never a handball lmao
Kane kicked the ball and Dumfries caught him on his follow through because he was late with his challenge. It was Dumfries who kicked Kane.
Did Dumfries' foot touch Kane? I couldnt watch due to the new long view cam angle!!
@@leotran9259 it was a handball by Saka, 2 seconds before the Kane incident. You can watch it back, Saka's right hand.
@@TDtog2112Dumfries was blocking the shot, he is not supposed to run away from Kane throwing around his legs in NL box
Even as a Dutch guy I just say the penalty shouldn’t have given but England played better and deserved it good luck with the finals.
Respect 👊 🏴🇳🇱
If England wins on Sunday I'll be done with football forever
Thank you. I think luck has a lot to do with these international tournaments these days and you guys were certainly out of luck with the ref last night.
@@VonDutchNLEngland only wins if buys the referee
The pen for England was one of the worst decisions I've seen. Dumfries is clearly going for the ball. Kane follows through from his shot. Netherlands should be in this final
england most likely still wouldve won but thats a thing whe would never know
@@prity5631 very unlikely, if The Netherlands would have been 1-0 ahead they would have just parked the bus and with one of the best defense in the world it would be very unlikely England would have scored. Especially since it took them 91 minutes to score a single game vs a Netherlands team that was still attacking aswel. There is no way they would have scored 2.
Can't go in studs out, miss the ball, and catch the ankle. That's a foul anywhere on the pitch.
@@silaslong-js8ps
No way- the pen gave them the 1-1 early in the game.
It was a 50/50 game though.
England would have won in ET. Toney would have smoked their boots if he came on.
I’m so happy Ollie Watkins and Ivan toney had big moments happy they can go home happy
Yeah, Ivan Toney’s asking price is gonna stay at £60M isn’t it?
Brentford boys! 🐝🐝
@@iwantgoals1566 defo
I find it hard to believe that the media/ pressure didn't have an effect on the refs' performance. The entire game, he seemed scared to pull England up on mistakes, and I say this as an Englishman. The media would've absolutely eaten him alive if that wasn't given as a pen, and he's proven himself vulnerable to outside forces before with his match fixing scandal. I'm glad we're in the final, but it sucks that by far our best performance of the tournaments is being overshadowed by that decision, It'll be called "robbed" despite the fact we were the better side for most the game, hopefully we improve again for Spain, we've got some momentum and luck on our side finally, hopefully this is the one!
I disagree with that you guys were dominant most of the game it was more half of the game then it became a mor of a stale mate between both of them but fair points and love that even English people didn’t like the callouts from the refs were questionable at times and I mean for both like it didn’t feel like it was a good arbitrage even tho you would not expect it at this sort of tournament and stage but no it was rubbish that pen wasn’t a pen in the prem or any other league in my opinion
@@anoldewoman Get over what? Winning?
How many times have we been robbed? (Lampard goal against Germany). Stop moaning and be grateful we are in the final.
@@ahumanbeing993yeah yeah you forgot the same Ref helped you against Romania now who it crying 😂 Ahh Karma it a bitch sometimes
@@TDtog2112 dont forget about how often the netherlands also have been robbed whe were in the same boat but ITS COMING HOME! now
Was not a penalty.. I hate it when crucial games are decided by refs instead of the players
Watkins decided it
Watkins made the equalizer ;)
@@callumhayes7502 the refs decided .. Watkins goal should’ve sent it to extra time shouldn’t have been a winner
@@abubakrwally805 if your mum had balls she'd be your dad pipe down 🍼
@@abubakrwally805 var decided. Yeah ref could've overruled them but no ref would
Great Drury impression
Southgate really fumbled his way to a final. I can't tell if he's an idiot genius or a genius idiot. Either way England are in a back to back Euro final. Fair play to them.
Hopefully, for them, it's not a back to back runners up medal.
So not to be an idiot does Southgate have to win every game 4-0? Everything he has done in terms of team selection and substitutes has paid off. There is only one idiot here and it is not Southgate.
@@TDtog2112dawg have you watched England play? The only idiot is that one backing south gate here 💀
I mean when pep plays and get his result of 1-0 in some cases no one has a problem But when Southgate does this everyone wants his head does it matter no we got Back to Back finals
He’s a lucky idiot.
I'd like the win, but Spain are unreal at the moment, another level.
5:38 Mainoooo & Foden off that right side... ❤❤ scary talent 🫤 Southgate had some adjustments to make on that left-hand side to make team balanced
I am Dutch. Yes, the ref decided the match. But as I always say... To win the cup you also need to be able to beat the referee.
Congrats England! In the end we just weren't good enough. I'm happy this game England at least started to show some good football and scored something besides from a standard situation.
Finally, a Dutch fan who actually has common sense and isn't toxic towards the opposition, you guys did good too, we'll see you in the World Cup.
That's a dumb thing to always say 😂
Scored something other than a standard situation? Can you explain that one, might be lost in translation? :)
@@tony1kenobi929 Yeah, that wasn't the most articulate sentence was it? 🙂
I mean they at least scored from an opportunity they enforced themselves, instead of just with penalties, free kicks or corners.
I really dislike the style of play in which teams just dig in and hope for only those moments to score...
Dutchman here. The penalty was a disgrace, the ref is a disgrace and the kind of substitutes Koeman made are a mystery to us all. Well played to UK, good luck in the finals.
@@cobusb8373 ik begrijp er helemaal niets van. Eindelijk die zweetband eruit dus iedereen jnujpt zijn handjes al dicht om zurkzee or brobbey te zien. Nee veerman en dan daarna nog eens malen eruit. Alle snelheid uit het spel gehaald en je zet weghorst op een eiland. Zal wel aan ons liggen allemaal. Maar ben blij als die rooie oliebol lekker zo ver mogelink wegblijft van het wk
Thank you for the good luck wishes. Most people hate us and slag us off and say unkind things about us. I appreciate the kind words. 🏴🏴🏴🦁🦁🦁 🙏
@@marieyoung3113 naah, UK people remain one of my favorites. I am a gamer, lots of UK friends and love em haha
FYI: calling UK England is like calling Netherlands Holland 😉
Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland haven’t got anyone playing for England mate! Sorry to be a pedant.
As a 🇳🇱 I think the reffing was bad, but we can't really complain because we consistently looked the worse team. And tbh, it might barely be less painful to lose to England than Spain in the finals again.
You have Robbed Romania now you're Out now the World it Balanced
You got off lightly, I thought the ref was OK, he had his moments but then Collina aside I think 90% of refs are pretty shite. Foden could've had a brace, Saka's goal should've stood. Count yourself lucky this wasn't Euro 96 all over again (in terms of overall score).
Was a great game for all concerned though. Back and forth, end to end and each team had moments where they dominated. Well played Netherlands and commiserations!
@@Grandmastergav86 actually refs back then didnt give free kicks for dives the penalty would not have been. Saka was waved offside before the var even checked.
@@nickybrander1015 Saka wasn't offside, it was the one on the wing...
Any Ref in any sport who is accused and charged with match fixing should be banned for life, end of.
Absolutely! Shouldn't even be ref of playground football
People that believe that was a penalty are what's wrong with football you can defend anymore, kane literally kicked him 😂😂 just because the defender has his foot out to block the shot doesn't make it a penalty, again kane kicks him and rolls around in mortal pain, really hope his wee foots ok this morning, football might aswell be called American football now because just like it you can't play defence anymore
High foot, late and studs up.
It was a foul.
and having been a player, nah lad, that one look painful as fk. He was going full wack into the guys foot, argue about the penalty, but don't be a complete melt. Hard hits on your shin hurt like fk
@@rantymcrant-pants9536 ooohh shit here we go, "I've played the game" 😂😂 foot or shin which one was it ?? The Dutch player puts his foot out to block the ball not game a challenge, kane then kicks the ball Misses, then swings hit foot around into the ducth players, sense when do you get a pen for kicking the defenders foot?
@@rantymcrant-pants9536 Typical English fan, crying about the ref being corrupt before the game, then he gives a pen which everyone apart from England fans knows was the wrong decision, 👏 your the reason football is so soft these days, give yourself a gold star and a wee pat on the back bud, I bet when England lose on Sunday you'll be the first person complaining about the ref 😉
@@andrewcraig7473
Stfu, you're just waffling now. You don't know anything about me so just stop reaching and talk about the game.
Studs up. That's a foul. It's really simple.
I'm what is wrong with football then. It was a penalty because as per the rules the defender did not make any contact with the ball and went in studs up. It was admittedly a soft penalty as most refs would not have given it, but as per the rules IT WAS A PEN.
Shame too like you mentioned about the defense. One match it was actually pretty okay and we lose, but that is the game. Also there was supposedly a protest from VVD where he got a yellow because Aké was being pulled down by two english players in the box. Dunno if that was justified from him or not?
Yeah that is the same one where we don't get the corner. It was actually a free kick for an Ake foul and Van Dijk lost it. As it was clearly 2 English players wrestling him to the ground and Ake reacting. Guess the ref only saw the reacting part.
The penalty was soft but later the Dutch players started crying every time the ref called legitimate fouls. Saka got a yellow for nothing coz of their whining and Weghorst could've been sent off, he elbowed Stones and had his hands all over Declan Rice's face.
Of course a yellow for VVD is justified for dissent. If Ake was really brought down it'd be picked up by VAR, unless he's suggesting the VAR team is corrupt too..
@@slahblah VAR team were the matchfixers, the ref was told to obey them and he did because fifa have leverage on him which is why he was chosen
@@slahblahlmao is this how you guys justify the bs decisions?
@@dylanvogler2165 What decisions other than the penalty? Did we not have a goal disallowed for a razor thin offside?
We were clearly the better team and deserved to win. Ball cleared off the goalline too.
Kane barely followed through the shot and Dumfries' heel studs still found their way into his foot.
A big scam from the FiFa with their corrupted referees.
Holland, a team that does not play to give the opponent a yellow or a red card, a team that dont play the referees, a team that always play for honest football.
And then Kane, who fell down like a ballerina, as if his foot was cut off.
And then ,1 minute later he takes the penalty!
Fifa had this final set up.
The world sees that these referees and the VAR are demolishing this sport.
The English are not for fairplay, Kane should have said to the ref that is was not a penalty.
But England needs the referee to win the game.
It was not England Holland, it was referee against Holland.
Never again that i will watch football again as long the VAR is destroying the game.
Go home, you're drunk
Netherlands... One of many things you have not gotten right here.
Congrats to England for making it through and well played, especially in the first half. However, the ref being their man of the match left a sour taste. He assisted both goals and unfairly took the ball away from the Dutch players on multiple occasions, especially at the end of the second half.
I feel like the Englisch have far better players, so I expected them to win, but not like this.
stop being salty, they were the better team
@grimaffiliations3671 Non scoring England has been the worst team all tournament, relying on penalties and refs. Spain will wreck them on Sunday luckily.
Despite my supporting England, they don't deserve to play in the final. Maybe football has changed, but I'm tired of teams getting lucky on penalties.
as far as the stones goal kick vs CK - the same thing happened to jude the other end like ten mins earlier u could see it clearly on replay and jude was obv not tryna keep it in play either which made for a weird coming together lol
As a Dutchman, calling it getting robbed is a bit much.
We didn't play very well and if this was a competition game I'd say a draw was the "fair result". Obviously that can't happen in a knock-out tournament though.
So were we robbed? No.
Did we get screwed by VAR? Yes.
It was a soft pen but I think the best team went through.
England were all over them the first half apart from a moment of absolute class for the goal, the second was closer but England still came out on top.
The Ref had a poor performance but I don't think the Dutch were much better.
I don't think so. England was better in the 1st half, the Netherlands were better in the 2nd. A draw after 90 minutes would've been the propper result. The ref also had some very poor decisions in the last few minutes of the game disadvanting the netherlands. They should've gotten a corner, minutes before englands goal for example.
@@dielegendelebt1900Agreed, a draw would’ve definitely been fitting with extra time to prove what team really wanted it most
Foden and Mainoo were England's best players. Stockport connection
Kane has carved out a career on pens like this. The protection he got in the EPL was rediculous while other players like Saka get kicked to death and nothing gets called.
Ditchie here. England was the better team there is no denying with verbruggen i dont know how it would have penned out if the pen wasn't given. I would like to believe that we would have won with penalty shootout but who knows. Outskde of the controversial decisions of zwayer and saka his double hands, and the fact that ake was trown in one of the last minutes it was a good match and i wish you guys the best of luck against spain!!
German commentators were really happy with the refereeing. Especially, they pointed out that it is a good thing to use the VAR to check penalties. This is something they wished for the Germans game to. So, I mean there was a challenge without contact to the ball, therefore, a possible foul. At the end, post match you can always judge the decisions (e.g. England loosing because of not having a penalty). The referee makes the call and thats the game. It is tough. It is the same story Spain vs. Germany. The Germans did not get their penalty because they were not using the VAR. So tell me what is "fair". Always subject to perspective!
The penalty was in the park of 'could be given as there was contact'. My issue is with the consistency of the var usage. In the closing minutes, Ake gor hugged to the floor at a corner. Var stayed silent.
And there was the possible hands ball before the penalty that could've at least been looked at by the ref.
And there were 2 or 3 more calls that were game changing throughout.
I do not think there was any matchfixing, and my qualms are more with the VAR than with the ref. It's just sad as a Dutch fan that for the second tournament in a row were out after contentious refereeing.. leaves a bad taste
@@kamahuki6904what about the penalty given to Germany v Denmark? Is var accounting for events outside of the game going on? Smells like suspect to manipulation .. congrats to zwayer
@@kamahuki6904 the point is that the VAR has taken Dumfries' challenge, leading with the studs as opposed to making an attempt to kick through the ball, as being reckless. This is the problem and Zwayer, after reviewing the replay, changed the decision. The thing is we are all not referees and cannot really judge the actions. To a certain extent we must trust referees and VARs that they make fair calls. Long story short, one can see the challenge as reckless but also not. It is unfortunate for the Netherlands.
@jctemp I have little issue with the penalty given. I agreed with you by saying 'there was contact, so it could be given.'
I just don't like the inconsistency and lack of transparency around it
As a Dutch fan, no excuses, they paid the ref more than we did, fair pay!
karm for 2014 MOFO
Odds were on Netherland's side. By winning, England could make some people rich. Which they did. So i'd check the bank accounts of ref's friends and family.
@@treehugger3615 womp womp
@@treehugger3615 Odds were basically even everywhere, what the fuck are you on about 😂
@@JuanLuna-ro3qbdude are you still mad about something 10 years ago? Damn Mexico must have a sad 10 years. Move on mate.
The rule against going in studs up is there for a reason as many careers have been ended by the injuries that result. The still at 1:48 shows how high Dumfries's leg was - this wasn't even a close call in respect of whether he had his studs up. He was clearly too close to the advancing player to put his studs up to him in this way.
It is funny a lot of commenters base their opinions of decisions on a match they just watched comparing them to decisions made in a match prior rather than rules. Like that was considered a high foot. Off the ball challenges and late challenges are always given anywhere up the field so why should it be different in the penalty area
HOT TAKE: it was a PK - here's why:
It was a bit soft but its the fact he went in STUDS UP and HIGHER UP into the challenge, thats a huge part of it - had he gone in sidefooted to stop the shot or tried to use his body to position himself to block it/played it with his knee etc and made the same amount of contact i bet you my next paycheck its no penalty
I can see why there is some doubt. But I have reached the same conclusion. I don't think any would have complained about that being given outside the box
@@rantymcrant-pants9536it was the side of the boot, why do trolls keep goin on about the ‘studs up’, are defenders not allowed to lift legs? 100% robbery considering the many other fouls in favor of England
Never a pen
@@Stefan_W. 😂👍
@@Stefan_W. Technically speaking, it was late, high and the studs were up. "...so when the ball was already gone"
Where I can get this Italuan jersey?
I've been trying to buy this jersey over the past 2 years.
Look up Italy green kit prob
NL deserved to lose, but that penalty was an absolute disgrace.
Nah.
Would you have given a foul outside the box? I bet you would. Late, high and studs up. It was bad defending.
Just a train of thought, Holland also scored a clear goal against France, given as offside, while the Spanish were awarded a goal in exactly the same situation. We are not robbed, but follow the money....England in the final is much more rewarding for the UEFA than small Holland. It was not the referee, who was on top of it, and already decided it was no penalty. It were the UEFA officials, disguised as VAR. No referee gives a penalty, after seeing the footage.
Netherlands was definitely robbed by that penalty call, but England could’ve had at least 2 more goals if not for the Dumfries block at goal and the offside. So all in all, the result is fair
and foden hit the post
It could’ve been 1-4 England if Saka’s goal counted and Foden with 2 goals
Okay? But dumfries was there so what are you on about. He's a defender that just did his job
@@rreeddyyjust saying that England created many more chances and deserved to win
even before sake was toching the ball and the VAR didn't even look to this..
Loving the Euros coverage
Honestly guys, I think England will beat Spain. They'll either come correct and play well, revert to late goals/suber subs, or let it go to ET or penalties. It's hard to believe right now that Spain won't win but this is my feeling on England right now. Spain will definitely dominate and may score one or two goals early, but England will win it in the end. (Hope Spain wins it, though)
Spain has been running out of steam as the starters come off. For England, the opposite. If Spain is to win this, they'd have to put the game to bed early on.
I agree, this time UEFA will reward England after the Chiellini - Saka nasty takedown in Euro 2020.
As an England fan, I appreciate your thoughts. Its going to be a hard game but I think Spain could well under estimate England.
Spain I hope is gone win .The best team .
@@user-ky9px1po1g That's OK. You can hope any team wins, that's your choice. I will agree that Spain have been the best team in the tournament. But as an Englishman, I'm hoping England can do enough to win the final.
Studs up.If that was open field play it would be a freekick.Ref can't give a freekick for the attacking team in the box( as far as Im aware),so it unfortunately has to be called a penalty
100% right. Anywhere else on the pitch and people would scream for a free kick so why not a penalty. Even after the goal they still had plenty of time to win the game but did nothing,
You’re absolutely correct
wrong, ref didnt give it initially so in open play it wouldnt have been reviewed by VAR. That said i still wouldnt call it a foul. That said again i do belive there has to be a bit more on a pen as its so gamechanging, noone cares about 1 or 2 wrong calls in the middle of the field so we can show more leniency there
@peterdue7676 no not wrong,just the ref may have missed it. So yes var was used to pick it up ,but on viewing it is obvious to the ref that he did miss it
@peterdue7676 no not wrong,just the ref may have missed it. So yes var was used to pick it up ,but on viewing it is obvious to the ref that he did miss it
SAKA hands the ball 5 seconds b4 the clash between Kane and Dumfriess how did Var not see this?
With the penalty what is the difference between that and lets say the goalkeeper fouling bringing him down after the ball had gone. So he takes it around the goalie but with a real bad heavy touch so imagine would be a goal kick. The goalie never touches the ball, play goes around him, but follows through making contact.
oh so if Romanians (like myself) call out the same referee before AND after the match for not giving a red or at least a yellow to Dumfries, Netherlands fans were telling us to stop crying, BUT NOW.. NOW it's unacceptable, hypocrites :^)
Dutch fans do not tell romanians to stop crying, we do not pay attention to you at all
@@jvh58 Karma exists all im saying Ahole go cry me a river
As a Dutch, I agree Dumfries deserved yellow. BUT even if you would’ve gotten a free kick and scored I’d still be 1-3 at the end of the day, we played way better then the Romanians, it was an almost guaranteed win. Now with the English it was 50/50, really tight so one penalty/free kick can change everything.
@@jvh58 fking savage! lol
Fair point, but most people are hypocrites. That's not unique to Dutch people.
I dont get why everyone keeps saying about the penalty "what can a defender do there?" Like it's some impossible to answer question. The answer is , do the exact same thing Dumfries did but get the ball first. Dumfries put his foot up too late and got the player. And worst of all he showed studs, that is a foul anywhere else on the pitch so its a pen. People just dont like seeing pentalties, so they try to find reasons for it to not be a penalty
Great neutral commentary and summary!
Adrian do you think this game was should have had Artur Soares Dias as ref?
This was the first match my mom and I watched in full, and even I knew Kane shouldn't have been a penalty. I'm willing to be lenient with how that could have hurt a bit, yet damn. This ref should've been banned for life rather than six months back in 2005, yet clearly UEFA loves to give officials layers of plot armor.
@@anoldewoman I have seen it in the Dutch league. But yeah most referees need to grow a pair
@@anoldewoman yes.
How old are ya? 💀
@@anoldewoman I said 'yes' to your question: Have you ever seen a referee deny a penalty after VAR instruction for review?
Late, high, studs up. Its a foul every day of the week
Loving the salt
At first i thought it wasn't a penalty either, until i saw how Dumpries went into the challenge. His foot didn't seek to kick through the ball and instead his studs are up and his follow through also falls into Kane's leg. UEFA clarified and said normally it wouldn't be a foul, but it was deemed to have been reckless and dangerous play which is a punishable offense. It was a 50/50 call but I at least like UEFA giving an explanation for the call, rather than leaving us not understanding why it was called.
I feel that there's a bunch of cases where if you look normally you don't necessarily think "foul" but then if you play it repeatedly at x0.25 speed then it looks bad.
Which means that the bias is: which situations do you replay 5x for the judge at x0.25 speed, and which situations are just ignored and aren't replayed at all.
@@lightworker2956 I mean that's true too. I don't mind them checking but I guess consistency needs to be more of a thing with VAR
That final fault om gakpo u mention, that wasnt a faul. Kind of led to the final english goal. It had very big influence
give the ref two goal assists for this game
Softest penalty ever. I guess you can't block a volley anymore in football 😂
Not the softest ever 🤣
@@jamesmichaels4979it’s up there mate
It wasn't a soft penalty. Should never have been a pen. Kane kicked Dumfries. Football is so shit now
With your studs up, no. You've not been able to do that for decades...
I bet 90% of English will tell you ourselves. That was not a penalty.
Wrong
It was offside too before the penalty but this didnt showed on ther VAR
The referee had previously been convicted of match fixing. Is such a referee still allowed to referee a professional match? And then a semi-final. What use are FairPlay rules, prices and slogans then? And it wasn't a penalty (even in England, chastened defenders say that on TV channels), because it was a block and Kane had already taken the shot (it was his swing, not a kick from Dumfries, so it was theater from Kane). but to go one step further, and this is hardly mentioned anywhere, but this was pointed out by former top referee Erikkson (Denmark): Saka made hands just prior to Kane's shot. Kane hit the ball to Kane and he struck out. The referee should have just blown the whistle there. Could VAR have deliberately left out this image of the handball? Or was that referee doing match fixing again? And why was he off the field so quickly after the match? Also unusual. In the 2022 World Cup for the Dutch Team out due to a handball from Messi (unpunished but later match winner), in the 2014 World Cup against Spain an unjustified penalty (was the Spaniard who tapped De Vrij?!?), but fortunately not decisive. This takes away the appeal of watching football. Maybe football should become like golf, in that you play with a handicap. and we immediately know which countries have privileged positions.
People saying NL was robbed - did you even watch the game? England dominated possession and created more chances. What did the Dutch actually do going forward? Other than a spectacular solo goal from Simons they offered nothing.
What's your point? Celtic beat Barca 2-1 even tho all they did was defend...
And yet England needed a penalty which wasn't one to equalize...
Slovakia, Austria and Slovenia all dominated England and lost so what’s your point?
Bro shut up
thats a clear pen....Come on !!
I know ,if it’s a foul outside the box then it is also a foul in the box
How is it a pen when Kane kicks Dumfries?
@@th01m3nn Late, high, studs up.
Am I the only one see this England run as same as what Bayer Leverkusen did in the last season? Going behind and and coming back at the end with late winners? I hope they won't repeat the europa league final against Spain though...
I personally don't think that was a penalty but as an English person we had plenty of decisions go against us in the past so perhaps it's karma
I'm not sad about it ending at all. It's like both summer is all match fixing. Plus, club footy is levels above the overly cautious way these matches are played.
Blessed brothers of Albion
The moment has come
Bow to artisans ⚽🤓🇬🇧
Nah Kane just shot like 2 milliseconds earlier. And the touch was minimal, Kane just dropped himself.
English media has been houding this referee all week long. This man didnt want to give them any reason to abuse him even more and gave every 50/50 call to the english. Embarrasing display from this referee who clearly cannot handle any amount of pressure and of Uefa for allowing him to referee this match instead of just giving Orsato or Marciniak a call (whoever doesnt do the final)
That wasnt a penalty, crybabies.
The ball was already shot and is not consider a fault.
Always the same protestant trickery.
There was contect genius and Dumfries had no business having his leg so up
"The ball had gone" So, it was a late challenge then? Which is a foul.
The Dutch are historically protestant too, you absolute melt. You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?
So people talking about Netherlands robbed and the crazy outcry yet i didn't really see the same for spain handball, odd
Btw to anyone saying fullkrug was offside, only his hand was offside and hand up until the shoulder is not accounted for offsides, Taylor should have gone to VAR and seen in himself to silence any doubts but what happened is ignorance and a clear pen ignored for Germany
Keep crying
Luke Shaw....low profile...but he is England best player in this tournament. Unsung hero indeed.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Even the English ITV commentators all said this is never a penalty!! What a pity for the Dutch 🇳🇱!!😂😂
German ref didn't see handball in the box from an English player just before Kane dove, just before English second goal he whistled for a dive from an English player while the Dutch had a dangerous outbreak. Ref literally created both English goals and the last 30 minutes of the match was like a personal vendetta against the Dutch from the ref. Never seen something like that, ever.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And to add, how can this ref play this game when Bellingham was fined for critiquing him on the match fix scandal. And I read the ref has a Dutch wife. The more I look into him the worse it gets.
Bro Netherlands- Argentina (2022) was even worse
@@daan8702 I found this England game way worse, it was obvious the Dutch got robbed.
thats what the dutch get for being the dirtiest team in history
Penalty seems clear cut. Failed reckless challenge
Lmao no. Imagine this penalty haven been given to the Dutch, you'd be fuming. Atleast be objective mate.
Xavi Simons fouled Declan Rice to take the ball for the first goal. Clear trip and steps on his foot before taking the ball from him. And NOBODY is talking about it even after the replay showed it clear as day. Felt like I was going mad that the commentators didn’t mention it. England’s penalty was not the right call either but in this case 2 wrongs made a right. On balance, even with the incorrect penalty call, Netherlands still had by some margin the favourable referee decisions. They just cry a lot and for some reason neutrals like them because they play in orange?? Idk
Can we get rid of VAR already? It adds nothing but another station for mistakes to be made
Difference between Spain and England is that Spain worked very hard, has a wide variety of talent and strikes early in the first minutes. England rely too much on luck, every single match they had someone scoring a goal to save them in the last minute of every match.
Overall this match will hit hard, but my prediction is a Spanish victory. England’s luck will run out, Spain’s structure is just too much at this point as they managed to strike down hard hitters like Germany and France, locking out key players of said teams to ensure a lockdown
"England rely too much on luck" ah yes, it's all luck that we stay in the match until the final moment, definitely not "hard work"
@@Espeowell it was also Felix Zwayer that helped y’all stay in the match
Sad. Netherlands dominated and utterly outplayed England only to have the game stolen from them by a non-penalty and England players escaping obvious red cards.
@@EnzoCappalini4678what the hell are you talking about England completely dominated the first half and had the best chances ,look at the stats.What match were you watching
Football is played over 90 (120) minutes. Doesn't matter if you score in the first minute or last minute it's how many goals you score to win. There is no such thing as luck it's called belief in that no matter what you can always score goals to win
I love karma she always gets there in the end. Keoman will be remembering dragging David platt down when clean through only to receive a yellow card then scored the winner eliminating England from Euro 92. Dont come on here talking about a bad decision because England know all about that , was it a penalty? No. Was Maradonas hand of god handball 86? Yes. Should keoman have been sent off 91? Yes. Was Campbells goal wrongfully disallowed 98? Yes. Was Campbells goal wrongfully disallowed 04? Yes. Was Lampards goal wrongfully disallowed 06? Yes. Dont tell us England fans about being robbed you know nothing. We were the better team tonight simple.
Dude really mentions '92, '86, '91, '98, '04 en '06, you sir, need to learn how to let go, as this is honestly pathethic. Move on man.
@beverly9 England did deserve to win that is something that will be overlooked because of the penalty
@dylanvogler2165 whats pathetic we've been robbed more than any team in history the fact is the penalty decision will overshadow the fact England were deserved winners
@@162tsb7 every team has been robbed and yes this will overshadow this game as it decided it. Deal with it. Both your goals are results of referee mistakes. So yeah. But unlike you we tend to not mention it 30+ years later.
@dylanvogler2165 I don't think it was a penalty at all look at the English players around kane at the time none of them were screaming penalty that tells you all you need to know. But that aside England were by far the better team.
As a Dutch supporter, I am at peace with the result. Here in the Netherlands, we don't see it as a disgrace to lose to England. However, I do find it really sad that, not for the first time, we had such a biased referee against us. I really wish our boys could get a good referee during such important games. Besides, I think it would have been more enjoyable for the English to win in a game where the refereeing is fair, instead of having such a terrible referee who gets talked about a lot afterwards. Having a referee who is biased against us at a crucial point in a tournament for the second time diminishes the viewing pleasure for us as supporters. Next time, I really hope we don't get robbed, regardless of the outcome of the game. This way, football gets ruined!
That kind of foul is usually not a pen, but some ref may have a different opinion. I think the ref was happy to continue play until VAR intervened. But why intervene? Either way it was not a clear and obvious error.
100% robbed, Kane hit Dumfries when following through on his shot and it should already have been a foul two seconds ealier when Saka handballed. I guess handball doesn't count against the Netherlands. Messi played volleyball against us at the world cup and everyone acted like they didn't see it.
Also nearly all the 50/50 calls went in Englands favour and the England celebration took a good couple of minutes off the clock yet the ref flew his whistle way too soon anyway, then he walked straight to the tunnels. Suspicious at best.
Scored in the 90th minute, 2 minutes added on kicked off 93rd minute blew for full time just after 95th minute. Better team won end of discussion. Regarding the pen, anywhere else on the pitch a foul is given.
@@RedMist925"anywhere else on the pitch it's a foul given" is the dumbest argument I have ever seen. Do you know how many penalties there would be if referees would give a penalty for everything that would be a freekick outside of the box?
@@RedMist925 Not end of discussion. Nonsense penalty, saka handball, we had a corner not given and you got a goalkick instead. Nearly every 50/50 in your half went towards England, couldn't even counter attack with English players dropping like flies. FIFA and UEFA are compromised. The game is gone.
@@TheDutchyNL Your man was late, high and studs up. It was a foul.
If a white shirt had done the same you'd not be making this argument
@@dylanvogler2165
Do you actually understand what a penalty is? It's given for fouls, inside the box...
even if he didn't fix this match, he cracked under the pressure of the loudspeaker of the english speaking media world and whinning gravity that is england.
Or England was the better team and deservedly won.
@@RedMist925and yet the only goals they mate came as a result of questionable decisions ...
@@dylanvogler2165 Maybe but they created more of them. Only things the Dutch managed to create came from set pieces
I don't think he cracked. It's not his fault VAR decided to intervene where they were not needed. Any ref would've played it safe and agreed with VAR
Or that was a penalty and you're just bitter
Every team gets robbed with the VAR . England was lucky this time. As a dutchman i love to see England win this tournament. Im afraid that this Spanish team is too strong.
First Argentina needed to win because of Messi and now this Matchfixing Ref! What the hell did we do to deserve a defeat on a Rigged game on 2 tournaments in a row.
I think with the challenge on Kane it comes down to where he was in his shooting motion (not finished) and the defender coming in way late. Yes, he has the right to challenge, but he was too late and should have pulled away from the attempted tackle. If they hit knee on knee about a quarter second later its a goal kick. Just my 2 cents I support Liverpool and will be greatly amused when England get absolutely pumped in the final.
Agreed. Not to mention, he went into the tackle with his studs up. Reckless. Always a pen.
@@tiagothinks "Always a pen." The contact was AFTER the ball had left Kane's foot so it did not affect the shot at all, and the contact was initiated mostly by Kane's follow through. I've watched lots of football over my 67 years and have seen these situations many times before. NEVER before have I seen a pk given. This must have been your first game ever.
@macgp44 okay, so defenders can just stick their legs out with the studs up to discourage someone from taking a shot, ya? Doesn't matter if it was after. There are plenty of fouls that don't interrupt play. You know a player can be carder for going in with a reckless tackle that makes zero contact with anyone? I guess the difference between us is you watch the sport but I play, coach and ref it.
Anyway, who let you out of the old folks home and thought you to use the internet grandpa?
@@tiagothinks So says the bedwetter who stole his mommy's cell phone.
@@tiagothinks if we see look at what literally happens, Kane's foot hits Dumpfries, not the other way around. Atleast be objective, that isn't a penalty and I have never seen a referee give a penalty for that.
I pray for Spain to beat this team for the sake of football 🙏🫡
"FoR tHe sAke oF fOoTbAlL"
You sad little bitter clown 🤡
No need, they're on fire, have talent by the bucket load and a wonderkid.
It was a penalty.
If you put your studs up every time a player kicked a ball you'd injure a whole team. Studs up is dangerous play, and if a player does it he's risking a foul
It wasn't a penalty for me. It was Kane's follow-through that caused the contact.
Dutch once again got fucked over in a major tournament. Oh well karma will strike England on Sunday as Spain will dive all over the place and get rewarded with a soft penalty of their own
You mean Dutch once again bottled it in a major tournament😂😂😂😂
@@TDtog2112 English have bottled it way more tho 😂
No, we were the better team on the night. If we'd had a better conversion rate it could've been at least 3-1 tbh. I also think the offside decision was wrong and however dubious you find the penalty (I don't personally), we've suffered from so much dodgy refereeing (if you feel that it's a poor call) over the years it's about time the tables were turned tbh. I've been extremely critical of Southgate and England over the past 4 tournaments, the first half yesterday was the first time I've watched a Southgate side and been truly impressed, the second half not so much but they got the result. Watkins finish was quality (helped by a clean through ball from Palmer), you can't deny that, even Koeman didn't.
The offside was not wrong. The offside rule is one of the few rules that needs no discussion, and technology can very easily just say it was, or wasn’t offside. And it was. Should they change the boundary of offside, imo yes. However, as the rules stand, it was offside.
It was a pen, The Netherlands player made contact with the foot, plus the Netherlands player didn't win the ball.
Also if that happened outside the box 9/10 that will be given as a free kick so it should a pen should be given in box
In the match against Romania, the same referee favored the Dutch team by not awarding a penalty to Romania, not giving a red card to a Dutch player, and interrupting an attack when Romania had a chance to score at 0-1. This time, however, karma seemed to turn against the Netherlands.