Glad the Circulator at Union Station came to the rescue, keeping transit running through the night should be a given because it comes in clutch for situations like that! Ah yes, the Port Authority Bus Terminal...with how much of a maze that place is, the Lumiose City music from Pokémon XY always plays in my head whenever I go through it 😂. Megabus on the other hand has their NYC bus stop by Hudson Yards. We took Megabus from NYC to Philly in December 2023 for a day trip and then took Amtrak NER back. We arrived an hour early for our 10:15 bus and the lady that was there at the stop was like "Oh we still have seats for the 9:15, if they don't show up, you can just get on" and while we initially took the offer, we noticed the windows looked very bad and it smelled quite bad too, so we got off. We also considered the fact we reserved upper deck front row seats in advance, and we didn't want those seats to go to waste. Glad we waited because it would've changed the experience if we didn't. The views were wonderful, the bus wasn't crowded at all, got a landing shot at EWR, and we even arrived earlier than expected! NO traffic! That said, I think the government should step in when it comes to intercity buses. We are a huge country, we have united in our name, and yet it doesn't have the true connectivity that it deserves. Yes, there are politicians that care about trains, but having buses are just as important! Especially for the places the trains can't go, and it's especially great to have options that are cheap!
With green lights, Lindsey looks like she became The Mask like Jim Carrey did 😂! Bright green is a nice color, I can see why it's her favorite! Yeah as you mentioned, before the PABT there were multiple bus terminals in Midtown, some of which were part of hotels like the Hotel Astor Bus Terminal on West 45th and the Dixie Bus Center on 42nd Street, located on the ground floor of the Dixie Hotel (later Hotel Carter), opened in 1930 and operated until 1959. The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad had coach service aboard a ferry to the Communipaw Terminal in Jersey City that ran from an elegant bus terminal with a revolving bus turntable (which the Hotel Carter's terminal did as well) in the Chanin Building at 42nd and Lexington. Greyhound on the other hand had its own facility adjacent to Penn Station, and they didn't move to the PABT until 1963. Besides the PABT, there's another bus terminal in Manhattan, the George Washington Bridge Bus Station in Washington Heights, which has NJT, jitneys, multiple MTA Bronx bus routes (on the streets below), and subway connections at 175th Street on the IND Eighth Ave Line and 181st St on the IRT Broadway-Seventh Ave Line. It opened in January 1963 with a design by Pier Luigi Nervi. Pier Luigi Nervi was from the Italian province of Sondrio. He also designed the Norfolk Scope arena in Norfolk, VA, the PalaLottomatica and Palazzetto dello Sport arenas in Rome (which hosted the 1960 Summer Olympics basketball tournament), Australia Square in Sydney (as a collab with Harry Seidler), UNESCO Headquarters in Paris (as part of a collab with Bernard Zehrfuss from France and Marcel Breuer from Hungary), Cathedral of Saint Mary of the Assumption in San Francisco (collab with Pietro Belluschi), and the Paul VI Audience Hall which is part of the Vatican complex.
@@Thom-TRAthere ain’t much but best of luck. I also live a few blocks away from the GWB Bus Terminal. It’s definitely an interesting structure for it sticks out from the mostly Pre-War Tenements that makes up the Hts. It also is bookended by 4 apartment towers and the GWB itself.
NYC also has a much smaller bus terminal uptown at the Manhattan end of the George Washington Bridge. It serves mostly suburban commuter routes in the northeasternmost parts of NJ and Rockland County in NY.
I like the peter pan concept and the green color. There should be several similar bus companies like that, like THE JOKER (purple lights), ZORG (orange), HELLBOY (red), AVATAR (blue), HOMER (yellow), HELLO KITTY (pink), lol. And they should have LED lights under the bus, like something from the first fast and the furious, that would be cool
I take Peter Pan from Hartford to Boston for a day trip when I don’t want to stay in CT (when I’m visiting for a weekend). I took Peter Pan from the Port Authority to Hartford when I was looking for my missing SSD at a hotel in Newington only to find out, when I got home, it was in my room the entire time. Last time I took Peter Pan was in 2022 when I needed to get back to NYC from Boston. I was debating taking Amtrak or the bus and the bus turned out to be the cheapest option. I had some food with me so the ride wouldn’t be that bad. Only time I got to ride both the Boston T and NY Subway in the same day.
Good to know! I guess it just depends on whre the bus terminals are relative to your needs, versus the Amtrak Acela terminals. The service looks pretty good.
Acela's only NYC terminal is Penn. And it only makes 6 stops between NY Penn and Washington Union (Newark Penn, Trenton, Philly, Wilmington, Baltimore, Baltimore airport)
Interesting and informative, your "Peter Pan" video was an enjoyable excursion this evening at my desk here in Sanj Francisco. Nice work Thom. I too like bus travel having crisscrossed the USA several times on Greyhound and intrastate travel in Florida onboard Trailways. When I arrived in NYC at the Port Authority Bus Station when I was 17 back in 1965, I remember it being quite different from the place you recently filmed, but I was pleasantly shocked to have paid 15 cents for a large, fresh-squeezed. orange juice after having paid $1.50 for a small, reconstituted orange juice at the lunch counter in the Greyhound bus station in Tampa, FL.
New Englander here: I like Peter Pan, as far as bus lines go. They're usually my choice out of Boston to go to the Cape, parts of Connecticut, or the Berkshires. Their buses are usually pretty new, always clean and well maintained, the staff is fine, the schedules as reliable as they can be, and the website is easy to use and intuitive. Not to mention: each bus has a Peter Pan related name! They built a new bus terminal in Springfield as part of the Union Station revitalization project there (I have yet to visit), and with Boston doubling the size of its (already very nice!) bus terminal, I think (non-Greyhound) buses have a decent future. With MassDOT's upcoming Springfield-hubbed expansion of rail service between Boston, western Massachusetts, and Albany, I think they'll be in a good position to work off of that service and go to places that won't be served by the new rail service (the Hill Towns, the Pioneer Valley, the college towns, places in between stops, etc.)
That’s an interesting type of bus there. I would take the train like pretty much always if it’s between NYC and DC though because I like that more too.
I used to take the breeze rapid 350 to connect to route 20 a lot when I was in college.Not sure if it is branded rapid anymore and it used to connect to MTS route 20. Nowadays you can take the MTS 235 from Escondido to downtown bypassing the 350 but I would still have to take the 20 to get home. MTS has a lot of long routes and I like the rapid service. Funny that when watching the 201 video those commuter buses reminded me of the MTS 280/290 Rapid express commuter service. I do prefer using a pronto card over the app as the app is kinda hard to scan on the validators (card just works).
I didn't know Peter Pan went to DC. I used to take them in New England, e.g. Boston to Worcester before the commuter trains went past Framingham (mid 1980s). The big bargain in NY-DC-Boston bus travel (aside from reserving Megabus months in advance) is the Chinatown buses. Don't know what they cost now, but 10-15 years ago it was $15 NY-Boston.
@@Thom-TRA on Boston-NYC, Lucky Star is bookable through Flixbus dunno about the others, though Peter Pan is usually pretty decent service-wise, though sometimes on the expensive side unfortunately they do a fair bit of anti-rail lobbying in Mass., particularly in opposition to East-West Rail as the Boston-Springfield market is very big for them
I always find these northeast private bus lines interesting in how they operated. It both seems wild, but also makes sense to skip Philly. I assume they took the New Jersey Turnpike for the entire state then?
3:42 METRA should get you to do their commercials Thom!!😂😂🤣 I can say for at least in the Northeast you can go anywhere (within reason) by bus in a pinch . Sometimes it's good to do a road trip somewhere where YOU don't have to drive!!
NJ Transit runs *a lot* of services in there from local buses that travel to Fort Lee and back (ironically, not too far from the GWB bus station) to commuter buses that travel far down the Parkway. There is (or at least used to be) a Coach USA bus to Palmer Square in Princeton, which is a short walk from the Dinky terminus. I’ve only taken buses from the top floor at PABT and at night, it can feel really sketchy, but I’ve never experienced anything except crazy long lines at the men’s rooms and urine being left places other than the restrooms. Lots of urine.
Sounds like the bus terminal at Union station in Denver. Though the underpass between the RTD light rail platforms and the Amtrak/RTD commuter rail platforms is supposed to be an entirely new level of sketchytown.
Coach USA actually operates Princeton to New York City year-round it stops at Rutgers College on campus then Express to New York regarding the New Jersey Transit bus on the Garden State Parkway one of them goes past Atlantic City into Wildwood year-round the 319 you have Northbound from Wildwood 7:30 and 11:30 a.m. southbound from New York City to Wildwood 12:30 p.m. and 4:30 p.m.
@@Thom-TRA the goal is to alleviate congestion and the bottleneck through the tunnel. It would give New Jersey residents more options. Ideally Penn station would become through running and the metro north and lirr could terminate at Secaucus as well with a new railyard. This would give riders a vast number of transfer options.
They seem to be several steps in quality/non-sketchieness above Greyhound. So I had an idea for a challenge of sorts. Try to get from Washington DC to NYC (or maybe even Boston) using nothing but metro and commuter trains and maybe the odd bus and no Amtrak (I think you have to use a bus to connect MARC to SEPTA, the gap between CTRail and MBTA is even bigger up north).
50 Ways to Leave Your Lover: You just slip out the back, Jack Make a new plan, Stan You don't need to be coy, Roy Just get yourself free Hop on the bus, Gus You don't need to discuss much Just drop off the key, Lee
Peter Pan has decades of experience history and with Greyhound and the various Trailways companies. That Baltimore station sucks compared to what was there from the 70s to 80s.
Word to the wise: buses between DC and NYC are a crap shoot as far as comfort, crowding, and on-time performance. If the significant savings from a last-minute trip are important, then take the bus. But if you have time to plan the trip beforehand, and know your specific dates of travel, Amtrak fares might be competitively low!
Amtrak fares are low, which is why 90% of the time I take Amtrak. But especially on the weekends, low fares are hard to find, even in the middle of the night.
@@Thom-TRAAmtrak fares between DC,NY and intermediate points on the NEC - in my long experience riding between various points therein - are low 2-3 weeks out, and then increase (possibly based on demand) within that remaining time to departure time. Similar to what I experience with DB intercity fares in Germany.
@@MyronYork-wf3ysI've heard Amtrak can get very high within the week before, with my recent trip to the UK, Avanti West Coast was significantly cheaper when I bought my tickets the day they went on sale 12 weeks out, they get a bit more expensive within 4 weeks, and extremely expensive on the day if the train isn't sold out. It was still not cheap, though I opted for first class on the trip out, $231USD for first class from London to Crewe, which is a 90min ride (standard premium is the better deal, half the price of 1st class, same seat you just don't get the underwehlming meal service)
It was a Pleasure to drive you that night
I’m The driver in the Seat Peterpan Operator Raymond H
Well thank you for such a great ride! We appreciate it
Glad the Circulator at Union Station came to the rescue, keeping transit running through the night should be a given because it comes in clutch for situations like that! Ah yes, the Port Authority Bus Terminal...with how much of a maze that place is, the Lumiose City music from Pokémon XY always plays in my head whenever I go through it 😂. Megabus on the other hand has their NYC bus stop by Hudson Yards. We took Megabus from NYC to Philly in December 2023 for a day trip and then took Amtrak NER back. We arrived an hour early for our 10:15 bus and the lady that was there at the stop was like "Oh we still have seats for the 9:15, if they don't show up, you can just get on" and while we initially took the offer, we noticed the windows looked very bad and it smelled quite bad too, so we got off. We also considered the fact we reserved upper deck front row seats in advance, and we didn't want those seats to go to waste.
Glad we waited because it would've changed the experience if we didn't. The views were wonderful, the bus wasn't crowded at all, got a landing shot at EWR, and we even arrived earlier than expected! NO traffic! That said, I think the government should step in when it comes to intercity buses. We are a huge country, we have united in our name, and yet it doesn't have the true connectivity that it deserves. Yes, there are politicians that care about trains, but having buses are just as important! Especially for the places the trains can't go, and it's especially great to have options that are cheap!
How hard is it to book those seats? I want to do that someday
@@Thom-TRA Most of the time they don't even get booked.
With green lights, Lindsey looks like she became The Mask like Jim Carrey did 😂! Bright green is a nice color, I can see why it's her favorite! Yeah as you mentioned, before the PABT there were multiple bus terminals in Midtown, some of which were part of hotels like the Hotel Astor Bus Terminal on West 45th and the Dixie Bus Center on 42nd Street, located on the ground floor of the Dixie Hotel (later Hotel Carter), opened in 1930 and operated until 1959. The Baltimore and Ohio Railroad had coach service aboard a ferry to the Communipaw Terminal in Jersey City that ran from an elegant bus terminal with a revolving bus turntable (which the Hotel Carter's terminal did as well) in the Chanin Building at 42nd and Lexington. Greyhound on the other hand had its own facility adjacent to Penn Station, and they didn't move to the PABT until 1963.
Besides the PABT, there's another bus terminal in Manhattan, the George Washington Bridge Bus Station in Washington Heights, which has NJT, jitneys, multiple MTA Bronx bus routes (on the streets below), and subway connections at 175th Street on the IND Eighth Ave Line and 181st St on the IRT Broadway-Seventh Ave Line. It opened in January 1963 with a design by Pier Luigi Nervi. Pier Luigi Nervi was from the Italian province of Sondrio. He also designed the Norfolk Scope arena in Norfolk, VA, the PalaLottomatica and Palazzetto dello Sport arenas in Rome (which hosted the 1960 Summer Olympics basketball tournament), Australia Square in Sydney (as a collab with Harry Seidler), UNESCO Headquarters in Paris (as part of a collab with Bernard Zehrfuss from France and Marcel Breuer from Hungary), Cathedral of Saint Mary of the Assumption in San Francisco (collab with Pietro Belluschi), and the Paul VI Audience Hall which is part of the Vatican complex.
One of these days I’m gonna find a way to explore what’s left of the rotating bus terminals.
@@Thom-TRAthere ain’t much but best of luck. I also live a few blocks away from the GWB Bus Terminal. It’s definitely an interesting structure for it sticks out from the mostly Pre-War Tenements that makes up the Hts. It also is bookended by 4 apartment towers and the GWB itself.
NYC also has a much smaller bus terminal uptown at the Manhattan end of the George Washington Bridge. It serves mostly suburban commuter routes in the northeasternmost parts of NJ and Rockland County in NY.
It also has intercity buses.
@@pavld335Hence my use of ""mostly."
I like the peter pan concept and the green color. There should be several similar bus companies like that, like THE JOKER (purple lights), ZORG (orange), HELLBOY (red), AVATAR (blue), HOMER (yellow), HELLO KITTY (pink), lol. And they should have LED lights under the bus, like something from the first fast and the furious, that would be cool
Megabus could rebrand to Megamind and use blue
@@Thom-TRAHey! What about a Transformer bus! With flames! 🔥
Let’s call it…OPTIBUS PRIME!
I take Peter Pan from Hartford to Boston for a day trip when I don’t want to stay in CT (when I’m visiting for a weekend). I took Peter Pan from the Port Authority to Hartford when I was looking for my missing SSD at a hotel in Newington only to find out, when I got home, it was in my room the entire time. Last time I took Peter Pan was in 2022 when I needed to get back to NYC from Boston. I was debating taking Amtrak or the bus and the bus turned out to be the cheapest option. I had some food with me so the ride wouldn’t be that bad. Only time I got to ride both the Boston T and NY Subway in the same day.
Oof. At least you got a trip out of that little mishap!
@@Thom-TRA I did and it was an interesting day trip. Got to spend some quality time with a cousin I haven’t spoken in a while.
Best bus runs from less then 3 miles from my house to NYC, I should try it sometime and finally visit NYC also around $40.
Yeah Best Bus has some pretty consistent prices
Good to know! I guess it just depends on whre the bus terminals are relative to your needs, versus the Amtrak Acela terminals. The service looks pretty good.
Acela's only NYC terminal is Penn. And it only makes 6 stops between NY Penn and Washington Union (Newark Penn, Trenton, Philly, Wilmington, Baltimore, Baltimore airport)
jesus that metra reference was smooth
I always take the Vamoose bus to / from Rosslyn to NYC.
I haven’t heard of them
Interesting and informative, your "Peter Pan" video was an enjoyable excursion this evening at my desk here in Sanj Francisco. Nice work Thom. I too like bus travel having crisscrossed the USA several times on Greyhound and intrastate travel in Florida onboard Trailways. When I arrived in NYC at the Port Authority Bus Station when I was 17 back in 1965, I remember it being quite different from the place you recently filmed, but I was pleasantly shocked to have paid 15 cents for a large, fresh-squeezed. orange juice after having paid $1.50 for a small, reconstituted orange juice at the lunch counter in the Greyhound bus station in Tampa, FL.
15 cents, wow! Have a great weekend :)
Here's a fun fact... at 6:00 when that Greyhound was passing you, that's because Peter Pan J4500s (at least the newer ones) are limited to 68 mph.
The Port Authority Bus Terminal neighborhood is a haven for the characters Lou Reed used to sing about!
PABT isn't too bad, but it's not a place I would go at night. Great subway connectivity through.
I enjoyed that video👍👍
For the fun of it, you want to try and review some of the luxury bus service (business class) that is available between the two cities. 🚌
I’m hoping to ride the Jet this summer maybe
Nice bus!
New Englander here: I like Peter Pan, as far as bus lines go. They're usually my choice out of Boston to go to the Cape, parts of Connecticut, or the Berkshires. Their buses are usually pretty new, always clean and well maintained, the staff is fine, the schedules as reliable as they can be, and the website is easy to use and intuitive. Not to mention: each bus has a Peter Pan related name! They built a new bus terminal in Springfield as part of the Union Station revitalization project there (I have yet to visit), and with Boston doubling the size of its (already very nice!) bus terminal, I think (non-Greyhound) buses have a decent future. With MassDOT's upcoming Springfield-hubbed expansion of rail service between Boston, western Massachusetts, and Albany, I think they'll be in a good position to work off of that service and go to places that won't be served by the new rail service (the Hill Towns, the Pioneer Valley, the college towns, places in between stops, etc.)
I love the Peter Pan characters on the buses!
As a lighting designer, I am rather taken by the Shrek theme - thanks for the illuminating clip \m/
Happy to shed some light on green transportation anytime
Wow! With this trip, you really knew how to roll!
Used to ride Peter Pan to NYC in the early 2009s. They used to show movies, that made for a real comfy ride.
I hope they showed Peter Pan!
That’s an interesting type of bus there. I would take the train like pretty much always if it’s between NYC and DC though because I like that more too.
Love it, thanks for sharing
Hello TRA, I'd like to see a video on the NCTD Breeze bus.
Someday when I get to San Diego
I used to take the breeze rapid 350 to connect to route 20 a lot when I was in college.Not sure if it is branded rapid anymore and it used to connect to MTS route 20. Nowadays you can take the MTS 235 from Escondido to downtown bypassing the 350 but I would still have to take the 20 to get home. MTS has a lot of long routes and I like the rapid service. Funny that when watching the 201 video those commuter buses reminded me of the MTS 280/290 Rapid express commuter service.
I do prefer using a pronto card over the app as the app is kinda hard to scan on the validators (card just works).
@@Thom-TRA You should!
You’re right-Metra is the way to really fly!!! And you’re right again- buses are awesome too!!!!!
Metra - are we sure it's not a dystopian sci fi prison train?
Great review! BTW, Peter Pan also makes peanut butter. 😄
Hopefully not the same company lol
Metra the way to really fly
Well at least Peter Pan doesn't buy back his old magic flying powder from other fairies
I didn't know Peter Pan went to DC. I used to take them in New England, e.g. Boston to Worcester before the commuter trains went past Framingham (mid 1980s).
The big bargain in NY-DC-Boston bus travel (aside from reserving Megabus months in advance) is the Chinatown buses. Don't know what they cost now, but 10-15 years ago it was $15 NY-Boston.
I have yet to try out a Chinatown bus. Are they available to book online, do you know?
@@Thom-TRA on Boston-NYC, Lucky Star is bookable through Flixbus
dunno about the others, though
Peter Pan is usually pretty decent service-wise, though sometimes on the expensive side
unfortunately they do a fair bit of anti-rail lobbying in Mass., particularly in opposition to East-West Rail as the Boston-Springfield market is very big for them
Brilliant video sir, that quote from Lyndsey re the green lighting made me giggle!
Have you done a video on PATH?
Yes, I have a few. But I’m currently working on an updated one! Discretely of course.
Excellent looking forward to it!
Megabus is what I typically use because it's cheaper especially if you plan ahead. $1 per ride plus a few dollars in fees
Unfortunately mega bus goes out of business around September
As a Chicagoan I appreciate the Metra reference
I always find these northeast private bus lines interesting in how they operated. It both seems wild, but also makes sense to skip Philly. I assume they took the New Jersey Turnpike for the entire state then?
I’m not sure, after a weekend of walking around NYC I was pretty zoned out!
3:42 METRA should get you to do their commercials Thom!!😂😂🤣 I can say for at least in the Northeast you can go anywhere (within reason) by bus in a pinch . Sometimes it's good to do a road trip somewhere where YOU don't have to drive!!
Metra used to have TV commercials! You can find them on TH-cam
NJ Transit runs *a lot* of services in there from local buses that travel to Fort Lee and back (ironically, not too far from the GWB bus station) to commuter buses that travel far down the Parkway. There is (or at least used to be) a Coach USA bus to Palmer Square in Princeton, which is a short walk from the Dinky terminus.
I’ve only taken buses from the top floor at PABT and at night, it can feel really sketchy, but I’ve never experienced anything except crazy long lines at the men’s rooms and urine being left places other than the restrooms. Lots of urine.
Sounds like you’ve seen some things. Or smelled them.
Sounds like the bus terminal at Union station in Denver. Though the underpass between the RTD light rail platforms and the Amtrak/RTD commuter rail platforms is supposed to be an entirely new level of sketchytown.
@@Thom-TRA A lot. It's also interesting underground in the subway station beneath. Has a labyrinthian feel like Penn Station
Coach USA actually operates Princeton to New York City year-round it stops at Rutgers College on campus then Express to New York regarding the New Jersey Transit bus on the Garden State Parkway one of them goes past Atlantic City into Wildwood year-round the 319 you have Northbound from Wildwood 7:30 and 11:30 a.m. southbound from New York City to Wildwood 12:30 p.m. and 4:30 p.m.
The Port Authority should move to Secaucus and the 7 train should be extended to the same location.
That would be longer travel time though
@@Thom-TRA the goal is to alleviate congestion and the bottleneck through the tunnel. It would give New Jersey residents more options. Ideally Penn station would become through running and the metro north and lirr could terminate at Secaucus as well with a new railyard. This would give riders a vast number of transfer options.
Thom, just think, Peter Pan Airlines, or Peter Pan Regional Rail, LOL!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice video!
Bedankt!
I love trains
Me too
They seem to be several steps in quality/non-sketchieness above Greyhound. So I had an idea for a challenge of sorts. Try to get from Washington DC to NYC (or maybe even Boston) using nothing but metro and commuter trains and maybe the odd bus and no Amtrak (I think you have to use a bus to connect MARC to SEPTA, the gap between CTRail and MBTA is even bigger up north).
There are three gaps, those two that are hard to cover, and NYC which is technically a gap and requires two subway rides or a walk.
Better than Greyhound at least.
Didn’t know Peter Pan went that far south.
50 Ways to Leave Your Lover:
You just slip out the back, Jack
Make a new plan, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Hop on the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just drop off the key, Lee
Cool video
Thanks!
@@Thom-TRA you are welcome
Peter Pan has decades of experience history and with Greyhound and the various Trailways companies. That Baltimore station sucks compared to what was there from the 70s to 80s.
The restrooms were closed in Baltimore, so, … what’d you do? 🤔
I’ll leave that up to your imagination
To visit the transit expo?
No
If Washington DC is as far south as they go I wonder how far north and west? Obviously east isn't relevant unless Peter Pan took up running ferries!
I assume Peter Pan is way better than Greyhound.
The other passengers on the bus were definitely less obnoxious than on greyhound
@@Thom-TRA I hate to say it but I think Greyhound is in a slow death spiral. Flix bought them out a few years ago, but Flix has its own network.
Word to the wise: buses between DC and NYC are a crap shoot as far as comfort, crowding, and on-time performance. If the significant savings from a last-minute trip are important, then take the bus. But if you have time to plan the trip beforehand, and know your specific dates of travel, Amtrak fares might be competitively low!
Amtrak fares are low, which is why 90% of the time I take Amtrak. But especially on the weekends, low fares are hard to find, even in the middle of the night.
@@Thom-TRAAmtrak fares between DC,NY and intermediate points on the NEC - in my long experience riding between various points therein - are low 2-3 weeks out, and then increase (possibly based on demand) within that remaining time to departure time. Similar to what I experience with DB intercity fares in Germany.
@@MyronYork-wf3ysI've heard Amtrak can get very high within the week before, with my recent trip to the UK, Avanti West Coast was significantly cheaper when I bought my tickets the day they went on sale 12 weeks out, they get a bit more expensive within 4 weeks, and extremely expensive on the day if the train isn't sold out. It was still not cheap, though I opted for first class on the trip out, $231USD for first class from London to Crewe, which is a 90min ride (standard premium is the better deal, half the price of 1st class, same seat you just don't get the underwehlming meal service)
I have never had low Amtrak fares between DC and NYC. $100+ each way. There was one trip that I found it cheaper to fly than take a train.
@@robertlunderwood there is a secret. Book tickets to Trenton, then take NJ Transit. Sure, it takes an extra hour, but you’ll save over $100 dollars.
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Peace
So... you're sayin' that ...they were not named ...after the ...peanut butter???
Devastating I know
Why would Peter pan be a bad roll model
Sneaking into houses, refusing to grow up, leading kids into dangerous situations, lying
Wtf, were we read the same book. I found it charming
@@thomasucc it’s a fun story but the kid is a class a brat
Thom, They're not coach buses, they are motorcoaches.
Coach bus and motorcoach are synonymous.
Also just reminding you that I have a very, very low tolerance for the “actually” crowd.
oof