New 2018 Porsche Panamera 4 - 971 second generation
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- With the release of the new 971 Porsche Panamera we see the next generation of Porsche interior styling. Lets take a closer look.
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If i had a dollar for every time nick said Im 6 foot tall when he reviews the back seat of a car...
Hey Tristan.... Do you know how tall I am?
I'm only 5'12" :(
Nick Murray, how tall are you mate? He he
We'd all be rich
Added to that big pile of dollars for every time that piece of classic music plays at the start 😜
There are three things in life that make me happy.....Christmas morning, waffles and a new video from Nick Murray in my inbox. (Mike in Ohio)
I think it's safe to say that Porsche is Nick's favorite car company :)
Your criticism of the original Panamera reminds me of how I felt about my 928 back in the day. I owned a 928 back in the 80's and had a love/hate relationship with that car. The 928 handled and ran well, but the quirks and electronics would drive me nuts!
I suppose I'll always be a 911 kind of guy...
I have seen a Carmine Red Turbo Sport Turismo recently. It was A M A Z I N G. Such a bootyful vehicle.
I like it when you play with the buttons Nick.
Nick, love your channel and your review was great as always. Can you do a video talking about modern infotainment/digital systems and distracted driving? Thanks for sharing!
that was scary how you took that corner. and after that judging how much better this model handles. you are a genius!
excellent review Nick
This is by far the best video on a panamera, by that i mean the way porsche is moving onthe interior design...
Thanks Nick for the great review. Can't wait till you get a Turbo or 4S. The Panamera Sport Turismo once that is avilable would be interesting to review.
Hey Nick, nice video as always. I'd like to see your review of the new E63 wagon when it arrives in the US!
I sat in a Macan at the Fairfield dealership and couldn't believe all the buttons however I prefer the physical buttons to [the] touch buttons.
Nick, your reasons for why you don't like the front vent and finger prints is hilarious. this damn car is perfect! stop nitpicking, I drove this car myself and it blows away the competition.
Great Review Nick. Would love to see you review the 718
Great review Nick. The piano black "buttons" will be the biggest gripe buyers have with the new model for sure. Question for you, have you found a good method for cleaning finger prints/smudges off the aluminum part of the steering wheel? Mine has a smudge I cannot get off with a microfiber cloth and cleaner.
OCD Kiwi mode: On.
Keep polishing those black trim, Nick.
Piano black... aka speakers year 2005. Classy! ;)
Thanks , great insight !
Looks good.
Can you do a house update cause it's looking amazing at the moment, nice review of the Porsche btw
Yes just need to finish a few things in the garden.
Nick Murray looking forward to it, enjoy your green fingering, get the dogs and gorillas to help you
Any chance the house update could be done by your sister, Becky? Maybe in a tennis outfit?
Apparently Nick has to do some green fingering first.
IMB2U don't be so sarcastic 😂
Love the Vivaldi Four Seasons music…fits the car.
Nick, great review. When do you see the new cayenne hitting the show rooms? I will be watching for your review as that’s possibly my new vehicle.
Ken
It is great to see Albert getting out of the madhouse for a bit.
I drove the new 4S at a Porsche event a weeks ago. It had gobs of torque compared to the old car. Handling was much improved. Options are pricey. My test car stickered at well over $100k.
Great video, I love hearing that it has been improved over the last get. But I wish you would spend a little bit more time comparing the car to its competitors; if it was your money, which one would you buy and why? Panamera 4, A7, or any of the others?
Yes!!!! Finallllly, haha! Thanks Nick!
If they went to the trouble to engineer the power vent, is it at least tied into the memory setup for individual drivers??
just took a look at the new cayenne at my dealer, amazing family car. are we expecting a review coming shortly?
Great review, Nick. It seems like the center vent is something that will be set, then forgotten. I don't readjust my vents as I enter the car each time. Come to think of it, I really don't readjust anything. My key remembers my settings. Porsche tie quite a few settings to the presets. Same with the Panamera?
Nick, I have a filming question for you. Your front-facing camera that hangs from the moonroof (which looks like a GoPro, right?), how is it that you don't get a lot of white overexposure coming from the windshield? You can see both the inside and outside of the car very well and I haven't been able to do that. Thanks.
My favorite car!!!
Revisiting this video for the 4th time
Review the wagon when it comes out!! That thing will be awesome!
Hey Nick - I will be in Connecticut next month and i look forward to catch up with you if you are avilable
I'm a big fan of Porsche's new interior design. It's stylish, modern and user friendly, accept for that silly center vent. I prefer physical buttons to this touch sensitive switch gear, but it actually does seem to work well. I'd definitely consider buying one of these.
10:32 the electronically controlled dash vent. An unbelievable example of form over function. I imagine the genesis of this feature is someone objecting that a vent toggle blemishes the center console.
Pretty sleek interior
Do those touch-sensitive buttons work with gloves on?
How is accidental touch? Could you turn the stabilisation control off by accident if you put your arm on the middle console?
Have to admit, Porsche have really done a great job on the new Panamera - inside and out. I would actually be keen now if it was in my price range. Oh well, maybe a used one in a few years...
Did it have the PSE? I am thinking of adding that to mine you see.
I'm a bit worried about this touch buttons craze. Does look a lot better but it's got to be annoying while driving. Some of those silly features too are worrying. Will you make a video on the new Audi RS3 Saloon?
Will you be reviewing the Panamera Sport Turismo when it arrives? I agree that the new Panamera is huge improvement, but I think the estate takes that to another level!
What about Panamera Sport Turismo ? That's a nice shooting brake. Btw great video once again !
oh those nice sporty "Laytha" seats
Hey Nick, fellow CT resident here. I enjoyed a bunch of your 911 videos. You're an interesting fella to watch. Just a couple of questions: 1-Do you love Porsche more than ever? especially given the problems you had a couple of years back (I would have left them) 2- I want to buy one but would not ever dare spending so much on one. Having watched a lot of other videos in TH-cam, what are your thoughts on the consensus view that the prior generation (the 997 I think) is the true sports car experience, and that the 991 (albeit its power and great enhancements) has really changed in identify to more of a GT? Any thoughts? Thanks, Ed
Thanks for doing the Panamera and comparing it to what an earlier version offers is useful.
Here is Australia the prices are eye watering as you know, so will not be tempted to buy an oldie.
I am 6'4" so head clearance is important information.
An old off road measure is to ensure you have a sideways (not hand thickness measure) between the roof and your head, so a rollover won't break your neck.
Not that a Panamera would ever flip, would it?
Wish list
- could you befriend a Bentley continental (2 door rag roof) owner and for us and review it? Pretty Please
Remember how much you loved those Bentley sedan seats...
Where is the option video for the Panamera?
Nick could you please try and borrow a Mercedes c63 Amg s coupe for a review if at all possible as I am interested in buying a second hand model I'd rather it not be an edition one as I don't feel the car warrants that sum of money but an normal 2017 s with a reasonable spec (options that help resale) thank you
Nice review Nick but, I hope it doesn't migrate down to the 911. 911s are designed to keep your head outside because things are supposed to be happening fast around you. One needs to be able to adjust things without looking inside. A few years ago you didn't even have to look at the rev meter because you knew by the sound what the RPMs were. Now it's so quiet, you tell me Nick if you can hit the red line within a couple hundred RPM without looking at it. If the 911 gets this approach turning the defroster on or adjusting the ac provides distraction that can put you in a trick fast.
they got rid of the electric centre vent in the cayenne
Excellent video as usual, Nick. Have you seen the Panamera Sport Turismo? What do you think of it?
I am excited to see it. A wagon at last!
Does it come with a rub cloth or is that a 1500 dollar option?
Oh, and 13:44 min. > i notified PETA ;)
Nick, can you somehow publish any kind of options list of this car? I'd love to see how many and which options are on this particular car.
Yes I plan to do a video on all the Panamera options
Do a vid on the Cayenne
Well now we know (@ 5:47) why Nick isn't married. He gets his 'satisfaction' from buttons.
All kidding aside, good review of the new Panamera. It and the Macan are the two top sellers in the Porsche lineup for 2017.
What about the Panamera wagon? :P great looking thing
Are the door hinges still magnetic?
I still like the feeling of pushing physical buttons better. Big fan of the latest iDrive from BMW. No touch screen but easy and intuitive to use!
And the central vent operation in the new Panamera is indeed just absolutely ridiculous.
Loved the video Nick! Panamera's team certainly seem committed to make illogical decisions!
Imo, the new Panamera is certainly not aesthetically disgusting like previous Gen, it is a lot easier on eyes, but it still isn't anywhere near "charming" either
Porsche already did the black piano look buttons on the first boxsters & 996's, wonder why it's back? Looked good new, cheap after just a few years. Maybe they have made them more durable
Such an amazing daily. I can afford an older one but the 2010-12s I can afford make me nervous for maintenance and the pig on a skateboard thing.
The maintenance costs are actually not too bad "enginewise" atleast (have seen some 250.000+ cars that had no changes beside the wearing parts and fluids). The pig on the skateboard thing is actually nonsense in my eyes. The base model is underpowered and has some bodyroll but if you get an "s or a "4s you are fine or just look for a car with pdcc which stands for porsche dynamic chassis control it basically neutralizes all body roll !
this center vent... wtf? But it reminds me a bit of the center vent in the 928. Nice review, Nick!
Good news, they didn't carry on the vent on the new Cayenne.
"pig on a skate board" lol
FCA group still has an open law suits due to a similar gear selector. I believe recall some actor being run over ?
Erudite but still real. His lack of driving enthusiasm for the Panamera is overwhelming.
I have to say the older multitude of switches was a more direct experience than the new designer hidden style. Probably more usable at speed, also.
What's the msrp of this vehicle? I saw 155,000$ at the beginning but doesn't make sense to me
Does the new PCM still run on Windows ME?
When do you think the internal design cabin changes will come to the boxster/cayman?
2021 midlife update.
Thanks Nick for the video.
I agree regarding interior comments, I'm old school n going to miss the physical analogue gauges.
Every car maker now is bringing out digital gauges, as we can only thank Mercedes-Benz for this.
The air vent in the center console is over engineered, n will drive people mad.
In fact, the turbo models have exactly the same air vent set-up in the rear seats, crazy idea hate it.
High gloss black piano buttons seems to be the latest fab, will keep you busy cleaning your finger prints.
The body shape is a huge improvement n should sell more cars in this generation.
Kon Kombotis yes. Add to that, manual transmissions, gasoline motors and hydraulic steering.
Is this normal white color, or carrara white metalic ???
The problem with the flat panel buttons is that it will look atrocious most of the time with fingerprints and dust. They should have went with a matte finish instead, which would be less prone to that.
phototristan The biggest problem is the lack of tactile feedback. You don't want to have to have to take your eyes off the road to look down at the center console whenever you need to adjust something you could actually _feel_ where it was before. This is a monumentally stupid decision by Porsche (not that they are alone - Tesla and others, I'm looking at you), and I am willing to bet that within a year at least one person is going to die in traffic partly because of this decision.
I'm sure soon you can have any texture you want with the Porsche Exclusive program $$$ ;)
Nah. They should introduce a button which calls a couple of Hooters girls to come with a microfibre cloth.
Went to the factory in Leipzig recently where they are building them. The gran turismo looks so good!! But even this quite nice.. Can't believe the American models have to have tacky reflectors though!
3:54 I thought you said "catching up with the Sentra".....
what is the name of this classical music
The old one had such a large amount of tire hum.. I hated the gearbox too. Didn't feel all that premium
I'm in the market for a 991.2 Carrera 4s and my budget is $30k. Nick, do you think you can help me out?
Hey Nick, about all that gloss black... How durable is it? Do you think it would scratch really easily? It is awfully sandy/gritty out here and it is hard enough keeping paint from getting scratched... Are they glass? Seems like five+ years and they would be a bit hazy, no? Nice review as always! Wondering what Tui would think... Albert is a bit of a push over... F
I guess time will tell, I seem fairly durable to me. Tui likes a car with bolstered rear seats : )
No way it is more durable unless it is made of glass/crystal.
Got me thinking of having to apply a screen protector film to them. Would cut down on the glare too. Can you see anything in direct sunlight? Like with the roof open? Not super happy with the high gloss screen on my laptop for that reason.
Heidi and Franny's Garage - Are you talking about the infotainment screen or all the piano black buttons on the center console? Cutting the screen protector to fit perfectly would be quite a pain, no? Btw, really enjoyed your 356A videos.
My OCD is in bits from all the piano! Love the new style, but white is grim.
Nick, the original Panamera was model years 2010-16, not 2017. The new model is model year 2017, became available in US in April. The old model Turbo handled well and was a beast. The new model tech is overly engineered IMHO and is not intuitive. As u note, it is difficult to find the info u want on the screen especially when driving. It can be confusing. You reviewed a close to base model, and options are $. The 4s seemed pretty underpowered. The Turbo is quick, but by the time you spec it out you are at $180k.
Prefer interior of the old one. After 3 weeks you know exactly where everything is and with a positive confirmation of the button press.
Surprised there wasn't a $5000 option to add a physical toggle to the central air vent.
Driving gloves,Nick?
What name for first song.
"Rubbing rag" sure doesn't sound like a family friendly show
I would be quite happy with the "new" Panamera 4S model! The 1st version was that bulbous looking hunched back thing! But this new model appears far more sleeker and attractive! It's that price that makes me balk at the sports sedan aspect. Still, I'd rather have this over any other sports sedan of today.
What happened to William?
Piano black for buttons is a terrible idea. Fingerprint all over the place and it will show minor scratches and swirls like crazy!
Is that a Panamera key in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
I'll make a wager with you Nick! I say the new Panamera 4S model will outsell this base model! Gonna bite?
Hey Nick. What song was used in the video ? ❤😁
Winter from the Four Seasons
I don’t know Nick. I have a 911 4S and a Panamera 4S. 2014 . I cannot imagine what the heck you are talking about. My Panamera handles like of son-of-a-gun. In Sport+ it’s as damn close to a 911 as you can come in a 2 ton car.
With my new S4 being under the same Volkswagen umbrella, why couldn't Audi have done the same type of center screen as this instead of being perched up on top of the dash?!?!
I agree Ed.
6 ft no not realy he s a giant copterkiwi well you get accurate data if he sits with comfort Well done Nick all the best SoulDave
Focussed??
What are you going to do when cars become driveless?
Hello Nick. I just put an order for 2018 Panamera 4 E-Hybrid Executive last month back home(China), but this week the news came that starting this month all imported hybrid vehicles has to do an extra durability test before they are allowed on the Chinese streets. On VMS my car is showing a delay of 2 months. I am not in a hurry to get the car, and there are 2 options the dealer are pushing now; 1. Change the order to a Panamera 4 Executive and save a bit of money 2. Buy an Canadian imported 4S for the same money (I am paying $290,000 roughly). Love to hear your thoughts on this one.
Changyuan Pang Wait for the hybrid. I ordered one yesterday actually. When is you car due? Did you order the sport exhaust?
MK W My one was scheduled for October 17th but now got pushed back to next January. No sports exhaust since it's gonna be a daily. I opted for stealth look, upgraded headlights, 20 inch wheels, a few safety features and ventilated massaging seats.
I ordered mine with 21" rims, heated seats and steering wheel, panorama ceiling, 19" winter rims, sport exhaust, Black/beige interior, Midnight blue paint on the car.
MK W Nice colour choice. Mine is black exterior with black/beige part leather. The options kinda shows that we live in different parts of world. Did you delete the lime green brake callipers or you kept it?
I was at my dealer on friday. I was 80% certain that I wanted the volcano grey paint. Then the seller showed me a car that was tucked away in the back and it had the midnight blue. It was perfect. My body tingled when I saw it. It had the green callipers and that looked so good. I will keep them green as it makes the car that more special. Mine is also due in January.
Opens with Vivaldi -- it's going to be a classic.
The new Cayenne doesn't have the silly vent