This is one of two videos I use to pack. So far it’s the best one I have seen. I finally have figured out how to get my canopy in my Dbag without my Pack Monkey. Amazing technique.
This helped alot! Less frustration and much simpler. My practice packs were much easier vs. the standard method taught at packing class. And it helped me pass the packing exam much earlier than expected. Thanx!
Never thought about working rear to front. This is super easy to find the flake between D and C which is always difficult for me. Gonna try it tomorrow. Thanks for the video, Evan. Really appreciate your time and efforts.
Dude, awesome detail! Just took my packing class, was stuck on the lines and getting into the bag, you made it much much easier! Front to back method should be taught for beginners! Thanks a bunch man!
ive packed for myself a bit over 100 times now. I love these long detailed videos because i always pick up something new. Ive been watching your video until i find something different i want to do in my packs then pausing until ive done it a few times then coming back. ITs been great! Thank you.
Awesome dude glad it helped! Yep that was the goal, to go over lots of details for those who want to improve. Take what you like from me and use it to form your own method of packing 🙌🏻
On my 6th pack job my lines were so entangled from throwing the rig in my car after my last jump I disconnected the risers from the container straightened untangled/untwisted the lines, and reconnected the risers to the container and finished packing the parachute. The next day I showed up at the DZ ready to go. First jump was a 10 second delay from 4k out of a C182. Deployed the pilot chute at 2500ft. As I looked up and watched the canopy start to inflate, I thought, nice, my pack job is working (I was extremely apprehensive about the pack job) and saw the canopy fully inflate. That was good. What was not good was that when I reattached the risers the night before I put them on backwards. So now I was facing in the opposite direction of the line of flight, I was flying backwards! I continued flying the parachute to a safe landing. Fortunately, the very light wind was blowing right down the 3000 ft grass runway. The landing flare was a little weird and I actually stood up on landing. When I made it back to the packing area no one said anything about me flying backwards, and I thought, gee, I may not have to endure the constructive criticism of my fellow jumpers. Not, the pilot(D-47), saw me flying around backwards and told everyone else. Needless to say I never disconnected the risers again to resolve line twist. Fun times.
I love that you explained so much, especially at the kill line part. When I show someone how to pack I also tell them why it's so important to check for a loose line in the pilot shute. Sadly a lot of people, like you said, only pull once on the hacky and leave it. Or only do this snap test. Maybe one thing to add is that you can still pull some of the kill line out when it's already in the dbag if your using a bridle that doesn't seperate in the area from canopy attachment point to inner part of the dbag. And if you're using one that does seperate don't pull any more on the kill line when it's in the dbag so you don't wrap it around the fabric. Blue Skies🤙
I check it 3 times throughout the packjob. There's nothing I'm losing out on by triple checking at different stages. Just like with flaking, you can save some time by not flaking...but the time you save is not necessarily worth the small possibility that you could have a line over. like I said, a lot of line overs happen on the previous landing...not the packjob itself.
Great video. Been away from the sport for a little while and needed the level of detail you included to feel comfortable in what I was doing again. Working back to front of the canopy while flaking the cells is a lot easier than the front to back method I was originally taught. Thanks!
Yeah dude use bits and pieces from all sources you find. My goal for this video was just to show what I do so you can take what you like to form your own packing method
@@samfisher2306 yeah you guys have to do it seasonally. I’m down here by Zephyrhills in Florida so that’s a big advantage. I’m on to solo jumps now. 10 more to 25!
loved your explanation .. I'll definitely be watching this multiple times before and during my first pack ... m going to be jumping at Techumseh soon ...
@@EvanSantangelo I've already got a walkthrough during my A certification .. I don't have a dedicated DZ that I'm associated with.. I've got my USPA A & B from Thailand ... But I guess I'll have to learn packing from peers and youtube :)
Thanks a bunch for making this video. Really appreciate the breakdown on how to flake. Bagging half the canopy technique is more manageable. Blue Skies 🤘
Great tutorial …. Spectacular way of teaching / demonstrating it . I’ll definitely use your suggestions in the future . Thanks for the time and nice presentation . Awesome 🤩
Awesome work Evan.. Love these new educational videos.. Finnishing my AFF this year.. Also planning on getting the Saber 2..This video is exactly what I needed.. Thanks for all the effort brother.. Shout out from South Africa 🔥🚀✨
Excellent video and good teaching points, good script clarity and camera work. One beef: The D-bag on a sport rig is not a "cube" as you stated multiple times. D-bags are rectangular prisms with six faces (three pairs of parallel rectangular faces that do not necessarily have to be squares). In contrast, a cube by definition has six faces, but each of its faces is a square that has exactly the same area as each of its other five faces.
I’m totally going to try that trick with putting the stabilizer under the slider. I’ve never heard of anyone trying that before but it seems like a good idea
Makes sure the slider hits the air first once the cocoon unravels. Otherwise you run the risk of air getting between the stabilizer and slider, creating pressure above the slider and forcing it down the lines prematurely.
Thanks for the nice packing video - I always enjoy seeing the different techniques and trying to pick up tips to try and make my pack jobs (and openings!) even better. Do you have any specific tips for packing a parachute for a wingsuit jump?
Awesome! Glad it was helpful. For wingsuit, the packjob is fairly the same. I’d focus more on flying your body through the deployment instead of packing advice. Only thing squirrel recommends is to leave the cocoon wrapped a little lighter near the label. Otherwise technique if your flare will have a much bigger on openings.
Awesome video and informative. I’ve also learned some new catch phrases. “Gonna go ahead and….” 😂😂 Also the “Kinda” is detracting from your obvious expertise. You are smart, now speak like it ❤😊
Brother!! 💙 I really like this video. I am taking with me a few ideas that will make my paking job easier that what it is. Love you made this video because watching you in that packing room the details are not a clear because the plane will be leaving soon...
A thing worth mentioning is that you probably don’t want to wrap the top that much as it may cause extra wear on the tail when this wrap force-unwraps during opening.
Learning to pack with this, thanks. s folds are killing me still - this method is easier with your body movements and keeping the cocoon tight, I can get it in the bag, but I struggle keeping the lines taut when making the folds. With the regular s fold way you start at the grommets/lines and that fold naturally keeps the lines taut but then the cocoon is a nightmare to manage lol.
Milk the line excess and leave it in the bag. As long as they’re not a crazy amount of difference between the right and left line groups, you should be fine. Ask someone more experienced around you to take a look next time you get it in the bag 🙌🏻
i have 10 jumps on my new rig and im pretty disappointed that i couldnt figure this out. ill be back at the dz in a few weeks and hoping i can get it on my own. when its busy you feel like youre taking up too much space and taking too long really hope this transfers into action for me. thanks for the video
I have never Paracuted before, but after this video, I am confident I can Pack my own chute for my first jump thx man !!! Wish me luck !!!! by the way, my first jump is going to be a base jump because I don't have a plane.
You have no idea how long I’ve been wishing for trolls in my comments. Jacob just hasn’t been cutting it anymore. Thank you for your service 🙌🏻 oh yeah, and good luck 🤣 might as well wingsuit also - more flight time
So after I get my class A license and don't want a packer to pack mine, it's all on me or should I get more training in packing? And do some canopies have different tricks during the packing? Thank you
Hands on teaching is going to be your best bet. Most canopies are identical. Once you start getting into the smaller canopies or fully elliptical shaped main parachutes, the D or C lines may only have 2-3 lines. Flaking still works the same way. As long as all the lines are in the center and fabric is to the outside, you’re fine 🙌🏻
There’s really only 2-3 things that you HAVE to make sure are set for a parachute to work. - pilot chute - continuity of the lines is correct - slider in place. The rest is really just comfort and controlling the speed/cleanliness of the packjob.
Excellent walkthrough, one possible suggestion is the Brian Germaine technique of folding the pilot chute to avoid a horseshoe malfunction in case of premature deployment: th-cam.com/video/axCeYlY_6io/w-d-xo.html Loved the back-to-front flaking technique. Going to start using that for myself, as your folds were way cleaner, plus you actually can see the individual line groups much clearer.
Yes this is the one thing that is missing. Yeah you can maintain your gear and still have an out of sequence deployment. If the bag comes out and you can't reach and extract the PC for whatever reason, that might be an inconvenience to you. It's easy to test. Try and pull your PC out with just the bridle. If it bunches up and doesn't slide out, maybe think about changing your technique. This is the best packing video by far. I would like to see one with your WS rig and semi stowless!
Just to be a pedant, it's a cuboid not a cube. A cube is a 3-dimensional shape where each side is of equal length. I've never seen a cube shaped D-bag. But yeah, I get it, how many people know what a cuboid is🙂? A relatively small percentage of the population. Then how many people care about accurately naming a shape🙂? An even smaller percentage. So yup, being pedantic. 🤪 Great packing tutorial, thank you 🙏.
A smaller parachute is always easier to pack. Too bad you didn't show them how to untwist the steering lines. Very important. Learn how to fold a parachute properly.
probably the best packing tutorial on youtube. nice on bro
Glad it helped dude! Thanks for the comment
This is one of two videos I use to pack. So far it’s the best one I have seen. I finally have figured out how to get my canopy in my Dbag without my Pack Monkey. Amazing technique.
Awesome dude glad it helped you!
This helped alot! Less frustration and much simpler. My practice packs were much easier vs. the standard method taught at packing class. And it helped me pass the packing exam much earlier than expected. Thanx!
Never thought about working rear to front.
This is super easy to find the flake between D and C which is always difficult for me. Gonna try it tomorrow. Thanks for the video, Evan. Really appreciate your time and efforts.
Awesome dude glad it helped!
Dude, awesome detail! Just took my packing class, was stuck on the lines and getting into the bag, you made it much much easier! Front to back method should be taught for beginners! Thanks a bunch man!
I know it’s a long vid but man I’m super glad it helped! Go crush it 😎
@@EvanSantangelo compared to other videos yes, but your detail helps people like me who need that extra patience & explanation! Stay safe boss! :-)
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You very wellcome man!! ❤❤❤
ive packed for myself a bit over 100 times now. I love these long detailed videos because i always pick up something new. Ive been watching your video until i find something different i want to do in my packs then pausing until ive done it a few times then coming back. ITs been great! Thank you.
Awesome dude glad it helped! Yep that was the goal, to go over lots of details for those who want to improve. Take what you like from me and use it to form your own method of packing 🙌🏻
@@EvanSantangelo cherry picking done right! thanks again!
Thank you for taking your time to make this video. I was struggling, but all of your tips and tricks made it crystal clear. May you stay blessed. 🙏
That's awesome! so glad to hear it helped. keep going!
Thanks for superb neat and clean easy Explanation !
On my 6th pack job my lines were so entangled from throwing the rig in my car after my last jump I disconnected the risers from the container straightened untangled/untwisted the lines, and reconnected the risers to the container and finished packing the parachute. The next day I showed up at the DZ ready to go. First jump was a 10 second delay from 4k out of a C182. Deployed the pilot chute at 2500ft. As I looked up and watched the canopy start to inflate, I thought, nice, my pack job is working (I was extremely apprehensive about the pack job) and saw the canopy fully inflate. That was good. What was not good was that when I reattached the risers the night before I put them on backwards. So now I was facing in the opposite direction of the line of flight, I was flying backwards! I continued flying the parachute to a safe landing. Fortunately, the very light wind was blowing right down the 3000 ft grass runway. The landing flare was a little weird and I actually stood up on landing. When I made it back to the packing area no one said anything about me flying backwards, and I thought, gee, I may not have to endure the constructive criticism of my fellow jumpers. Not, the pilot(D-47), saw me flying around backwards and told everyone else. Needless to say I never disconnected the risers again to resolve line twist. Fun times.
Hahahaha amazing story! Maybe I should try that on my next cutaway jump! 🤣
I haven’t even gone on my first tandem yet, but I’m happy to know this video is here for me to rewatch as I learn to pack my future rig myself!
Awesome thanks Connor! Make sure to take a packing class from your instructors 🙂
I love that you explained so much, especially at the kill line part. When I show someone how to pack I also tell them why it's so important to check for a loose line in the pilot shute. Sadly a lot of people, like you said, only pull once on the hacky and leave it. Or only do this snap test.
Maybe one thing to add is that you can still pull some of the kill line out when it's already in the dbag if your using a bridle that doesn't seperate in the area from canopy attachment point to inner part of the dbag.
And if you're using one that does seperate don't pull any more on the kill line when it's in the dbag so you don't wrap it around the fabric.
Blue Skies🤙
I check it 3 times throughout the packjob. There's nothing I'm losing out on by triple checking at different stages. Just like with flaking, you can save some time by not flaking...but the time you save is not necessarily worth the small possibility that you could have a line over. like I said, a lot of line overs happen on the previous landing...not the packjob itself.
One of the best packing videos for beginners and even those who think they know it all. Blue skies!
Awesome dude glad it helped ✌🏻
Master Pack Job!
Great video. Been away from the sport for a little while and needed the level of detail you included to feel comfortable in what I was doing again. Working back to front of the canopy while flaking the cells is a lot easier than the front to back method I was originally taught. Thanks!
That’s the biggest feedback I’ve been getting. Rather than trying to find everything all messy it tends to work better for me. Glad it helped! 🙌🏻
Lots of good points I hadn’t previously thought about and going to try next pack-job.
Awesome Nick give it a try :)
How have I only just seen this video, lots of good little tips ,this and the PD video are great reference videos.
Yeah dude use bits and pieces from all sources you find. My goal for this video was just to show what I do so you can take what you like to form your own packing method
I’m halfway through my AFF and this is what I’m most nervous about. I’m saving the video so I can watch it a dozen times!! Thanks my brother!
Awesome to hear man. Take it with a grain of salt, learn from as many people as you can…and then create your own method 🙂
Good luck. I begin next year. Still researching the best option to do that in MN.
@@samfisher2306 yeah you guys have to do it seasonally. I’m down here by Zephyrhills in Florida so that’s a big advantage. I’m on to solo jumps now. 10 more to 25!
Great tutorial, thanks for sharing. Going to try a few of your techniques next week. Pretty sure it will improve my packing greatly!
Do it! Take as much advice you can from as many sources as you can and develop your own way 🙌🏻
Seriously appreciate your thoroughness!
Glad it helped dude!
loved your explanation .. I'll definitely be watching this multiple times before and during my first pack ... m going to be jumping at Techumseh soon ...
Learn from your instructor first and then use this video to refine your technique ✌🏻
@@EvanSantangelo I've already got a walkthrough during my A certification ..
I don't have a dedicated DZ that I'm associated with.. I've got my USPA A & B from Thailand ...
But I guess I'll have to learn packing from peers and youtube :)
bro does one of the most beautiful jobs flaking ever seen, then 20 minutes in goes "remember, flaking isn't necessary". legend.
Putting it in the bag is something I'm going to try when I get my rig. I don't think I've seen anyone doing it that way.
great video Evan! very detailed and lots of good information
Glad you liked it!
By faaaaar the best guide in the whole internet. Hats off to you champ🙏🪂🥳
Bro said it's quick and easy, video is hour long😭 0:13
Thanks a bunch for making this video. Really appreciate the breakdown on how to flake. Bagging half the canopy technique is more manageable. Blue Skies 🤘
Glad it was helpful! yep those seem to be the hardest part! Keep jumping :)
Awesome content. Keep up the good work. Much appreciated!!!
you got it dude glad it helped you!
Great tutorial ….
Spectacular way of teaching / demonstrating it .
I’ll definitely use your suggestions in the future .
Thanks for the time and nice presentation .
Awesome 🤩
Excellent video. Soon to be using my 210 sabre 2 so this helps loads.
Awesome! Take some of the things you learned here along with what you instructors teach you and find the way that works best for you 😎
Great Job! Thanks!
Awesome work Evan.. Love these new educational videos.. Finnishing my AFF this year.. Also planning on getting the Saber 2..This video is exactly what I needed.. Thanks for all the effort brother.. Shout out from South Africa 🔥🚀✨
Thanks for the comment dude! Glad it's helpful 🙂
Excellent video and good teaching points, good script clarity and camera work. One beef: The D-bag on a sport rig is not a "cube" as you stated multiple times. D-bags are rectangular prisms with six faces (three pairs of parallel rectangular faces that do not necessarily have to be squares). In contrast, a cube by definition has six faces, but each of its faces is a square that has exactly the same area as each of its other five faces.
I’m totally going to try that trick with putting the stabilizer under the slider. I’ve never heard of anyone trying that before but it seems like a good idea
Makes sure the slider hits the air first once the cocoon unravels. Otherwise you run the risk of air getting between the stabilizer and slider, creating pressure above the slider and forcing it down the lines prematurely.
Thanks for the educational content. Great job 👌🤙
My pleasure!
Thanks for the nice packing video - I always enjoy seeing the different techniques and trying to pick up tips to try and make my pack jobs (and openings!) even better. Do you have any specific tips for packing a parachute for a wingsuit jump?
Awesome! Glad it was helpful. For wingsuit, the packjob is fairly the same. I’d focus more on flying your body through the deployment instead of packing advice. Only thing squirrel recommends is to leave the cocoon wrapped a little lighter near the label. Otherwise technique if your flare will have a much bigger on openings.
Awesome video and informative. I’ve also learned some new catch phrases. “Gonna go ahead and….” 😂😂 Also the “Kinda” is detracting from your obvious expertise. You are smart, now speak like it ❤😊
I appreciate this comment a lot :)
Brother!! 💙 I really like this video. I am taking with me a few ideas that will make my paking job easier that what it is. Love you made this video because watching you in that packing room the details are not a clear because the plane will be leaving soon...
Great Job 👏
Awesome, learn a lot, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
glad it helped!
A thing worth mentioning is that you probably don’t want to wrap the top that much as it may cause extra wear on the tail when this wrap force-unwraps during opening.
Learning to pack with this, thanks. s folds are killing me still - this method is easier with your body movements and keeping the cocoon tight, I can get it in the bag, but I struggle keeping the lines taut when making the folds. With the regular s fold way you start at the grommets/lines and that fold naturally keeps the lines taut but then the cocoon is a nightmare to manage lol.
Milk the line excess and leave it in the bag. As long as they’re not a crazy amount of difference between the right and left line groups, you should be fine.
Ask someone more experienced around you to take a look next time you get it in the bag 🙌🏻
i have 10 jumps on my new rig and im pretty disappointed that i couldnt figure this out. ill be back at the dz in a few weeks and hoping i can get it on my own. when its busy you feel like youre taking up too much space and taking too long
really hope this transfers into action for me. thanks for the video
Awesome dude!
Perfect pack I like a Tight pack for A better Deploy that's my opinion ladys and Gentleman enjoy your Next point break Let's Fly.
I’m not a skydiver yet but I had fun watching though, thank you bro, I hope one day I will become a skydiver license 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I have never Paracuted before, but after this video, I am confident I can Pack my own chute for my first jump thx man !!! Wish me luck !!!! by the way, my first jump is going to be a base jump because I don't have a plane.
You have no idea how long I’ve been wishing for trolls in my comments. Jacob just hasn’t been cutting it anymore. Thank you for your service 🙌🏻 oh yeah, and good luck 🤣 might as well wingsuit also - more flight time
You must be joking, right ?
What is the best catepie
Thanks... total newb... want to do AFF eventually. This was so fascinating to me.
Awesome! Make it happen :)
As a professional skydiver and competitor, I would recommend hiring a packer. Have 2 rigs. Drop one to your packer. Jump the other, repeat. Lol😅
So after I get my class A license and don't want a packer to pack mine, it's all on me or should I get more training in packing? And do some canopies have different tricks during the packing? Thank you
Hands on teaching is going to be your best bet.
Most canopies are identical. Once you start getting into the smaller canopies or fully elliptical shaped main parachutes, the D or C lines may only have 2-3 lines. Flaking still works the same way. As long as all the lines are in the center and fabric is to the outside, you’re fine 🙌🏻
@@EvanSantangelo thank you
"you definitely shouldn't learn from things on youtube"
...as a software engineer, youtube is saving my career on daily basis🤔😅
This is not financial advice 🤷🏻♂️🤣
Im going from c lines to a lines on both sides
Really detailed
Super dooper detailed
Great Video 👍👍thanks a lot
thanks for watching! need help with anything else?
How big is the window to make mistakes and the parachute still be safe to jump
There’s really only 2-3 things that you HAVE to make sure are set for a parachute to work.
- pilot chute
- continuity of the lines is correct
- slider in place.
The rest is really just comfort and controlling the speed/cleanliness of the packjob.
👏👏👏
Excellent walkthrough, one possible suggestion is the Brian Germaine technique of folding the pilot chute to avoid a horseshoe malfunction in case of premature deployment: th-cam.com/video/axCeYlY_6io/w-d-xo.html
Loved the back-to-front flaking technique. Going to start using that for myself, as your folds were way cleaner, plus you actually can see the individual line groups much clearer.
Glad it helped dude! If you maintain your gear with a tight BOC, PC packing method is kind of irrelevant…but thanks for the link!
Yes this is the one thing that is missing. Yeah you can maintain your gear and still have an out of sequence deployment. If the bag comes out and you can't reach and extract the PC for whatever reason, that might be an inconvenience to you. It's easy to test. Try and pull your PC out with just the bridle. If it bunches up and doesn't slide out, maybe think about changing your technique. This is the best packing video by far. I would like to see one with your WS rig and semi stowless!
Just to be a pedant, it's a cuboid not a cube. A cube is a 3-dimensional shape where each side is of equal length. I've never seen a cube shaped D-bag. But yeah, I get it, how many people know what a cuboid is🙂? A relatively small percentage of the population. Then how many people care about accurately naming a shape🙂? An even smaller percentage. So yup, being pedantic. 🤪 Great packing tutorial, thank you 🙏.
Lmao 🤣
i aint even skydiving yet watched the whole thing ha
You’re ahead of the game then ;)
Injury rate went down after this one has dropped
Doing my best to help people keep their femurs in one piece
A smaller parachute is always easier to pack. Too bad you didn't show them how to untwist the steering lines. Very important. Learn how to fold a parachute properly.
Sorry. It’s my first time…
Not for an hour ans seven minutes.
Great video. Thank you 👍
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!