@@IamnotfromUSA Because creator of Zilean was against riot releasing " Armored bear " known as Volibear. Right now Volibear is without armor so that rivalry is smaller.
@@eonnephilim852 It's really not the wild, he's saying he could die, people aren't worshipping him anymore so he could fade without worship like Janna is. That's why he sees the bones in ice
Riot is really hecking stingy, hell, skinspotlights is basically a big advert for literally every single lol cosmetic (and a treat for champ interaction nuts like myself). Why would riot not pay dividends? Or at least offer something unique?
@@justascarecrow6988 If you haven't paid attention to the beginning, Riot's official LoL channel used a footage owned by Skin Spotlights altogether with their watermark too
About the bones in the dreams line: maybe he's imprisoned in ice, together with the frozen watchers. In one of Lissandra's stories, she dreams in order to contact the watchers, maybe something similar is at play here...? Also, voli's teaser has him clawing up from the howling abyss, where the watchers were imprisoned.
In the ARAM event and when he uses his ultimate he becomes kind of ghost like. Maybe he is, in the form that we have today just the after image or dream of a dead god. And he is just projecting his image onto the world.
but how did he come to be frozen together with the frozen watchers tho? I think his dreams refer to his current state, which is likely near its end. Being forgotten by people it wears his power and ability to manifest, this feels to him akin to be frozen and the bones might indicate a forseeable future to him. Just as Necrit thought, primal gods needed to be worshipped to manifest and become powerful.
No it doesn't mean just as in justice, in Spanish we got a distinction between just of justice and just as he was about to say sonething and in Spanish, he didn't meant that, it seems he was about to say something
I don't know if I can call this a theory, but let's try In Neil Gaiman's "American Gods" he creates a universe in which gods are only as powerful as the number of believers they have: prayers, sacrifices and stuff like that give them the powers they weild, and even though as gods they could not technically die, if no one, literally no one believed in them anymore they could just choose to lose their will to live, and actually die (kind of like fairies in Peter Pan) . Also, in his book, there is not just a single depiction per god, but as many as people believe in (for example, there is not just one Jesus Christ, but many, with different ethnicities, core beliefs and so on) So, with that said, my "theory" is that A. When Volibear says "But do I live if I am not in the hearts of warriors?" he's mentioning something similar to Neil Gaiman's depiction of gods, in fact, Ornn himself says that "Gods don't need worshippers", and maybe they don't technically need them to live, they exist even without their belief, but that belief, that faith, those worshippers are what makes them truly alive, what gives them true power to shape the world, a power he once wielded and has now lost B. I'm not sure about the idea of a "sleeping volibear", but I think that, again, similar to Neil Gaiman's book, there is an original Volibear, Valhir of the first thunder and blablabla, but instead of having different version of the same god, there is the one god that appears in different forms when summoned because of the ways his followers perceive him, so if they believe in the "thousand pierced bear" with freljordian horror and stuff, that's the form Volibear will assume, that's the power he'll be able to grant people, but if someone actually knew his true form, maybe his true name even, he could appear in his full form, all fluffy and white Long comment, no one is going to read it but ok bye
Yep. i was going to mention the similarities with "American Gods". Voli thinks like an old god, he actually feels a lot like Odin, they both take different names human gave them and both want to start a war to regain their lost power.
@@dedalus6188 Ornn actually had a lot of admiration for his followers, but being the strong silent type he never verbalized it. When they died in is fight with Volibear it really hurt him emotionally. Also the "i need people to believe in me or I don't exist" theory doesn't make much sense at all. Seeing as how these gods existed and were arguably at their strongest and formed the Freljord long before humans inhabited it.
As necrit says the voice lines of in game characters isn't worth shit lorewise. Plus I don't think Volibear hates Ornn to a killing degree but like brotherly hatred born of disagreement.
Riku Harada I think you misunderstand, because Necrit never says the voice lines aren’t worth shit lorewise. This entire video is about what Volibear’s interactions mean for the lore.
@@RikuHarada6996 I didn't mean just to be a cut-off word but rather an adjective to justice. In the end, Ornn is his brother and there can be as much hard feelings between them as you want, his death/killing will still shake him. To me he is doubting whether this conflict to death between brothers was a right thing and whether killing Ornn was justice or injustice.
'Just' itself is a full word, 'surely this is justice ' would actually make less sense than what he says. It is more archaic, but it would would make sense for an old demigod to say. "Surely this is just." Is a full sentence, meaning, "surely, this was the right thing to do."
you watch necrit and you think that aatrox has a chance against a firstborn? are you serious? (saying this as a xerath main, and also, xerath would get stomped by volibear as well -_-)
@@gilsai4990 Aatrox is basically inmortal even the celestials cant destroy the sword were he is trapped so its basically aatrox fights everyone and probably dies some times and then he comes back until he wins, and if he killed a celestial who is no dout above a regular runaterra god (the firstborn arent even gods they are demigods they are the children of the first gods) i think aatrox could kill voli or at least the form he takes because all the first born are more like spirits
@@TheHunter932 aatrox is a beast (no pun intended) he can figure out how to kill anyone. He is the god killer. He killed fucking pantheon like wtf get out of the way voli u noob
In your last point you talk about how the Gods might work in a similar way spirits do by relying on followers to worship them but in one of the Ornn's quotes he says something along the lines of "Gods don't need followers. Followers need Gods."
They have different point of view on it. And Ornn must be the one who's right since he shaped the land and started forging before followers came to birth. But it may just be metaphorical when Volibear says he doesnt exist without people worshipping him.
I also remember Ornn denying he has followers (even when he had the Hearthblood) and he said he doesn't like having followers and just likes to be by himself.
@@adriancam5331 In his story, right before he fights Volibear he tells him he doesnt have followers. That the people below his mountain forge, build and create for themselves, not for any god. So he does. Yet in game he says "I had followers once, they tried..." So he knows it was his followers, he just couldnt admit it at the time or still can admit it in public. I think the whole follower thing with Ornn is more of him not liking the term. He doesnt want people to follow gods. He wants people to be as free as gods are. Inspiration is something is understands, but the term "follower" is stronger and implies a strong link. Too much to have any kind of identity to the ones following. Like sheeps to a sheperd, the sheeps don't have their own thought, they only follow the sheperd because he's the one who made the 1st movement. Ornn wants to inspire at best. That's my take on why Ornn denies his own followers.
I think the line "In my dreams, I see bones frozen in ice. I wonder... if they are my own". Might in fact by a reference that the true Volibear is either sleeping, or maybe even dead. The Volibear we see in-game is a manifestation summoned and shaped by whoever has called upon him either willingly or unwillingly. This would also tie in to the fact that there aren't really many worthy warriors (that look up to Volibear) in Freljord anymore, confirmed by "But do I live if I am not in the hearts of warriors?".
Don’t forget, Necrit: his bio mentions another primal deity referred to as the “iron boar.” Currently, we have Ornn, Volibear, Anivia, the Seal Sister, the Iron Boar, and/or Everwinter.
I was actually very disappointed with Voli interaction because they was short and lack luster. It would have been great if he had interaction with some Darken or ascended characters.
9:43 an alternative take is that "Thunder roars" refers to Volibear himself, but "Wind howls" refers to the Howling Abyss, implying that the "ignoring the call to battle" is foolish because the Watchers are stirring from their slumber. But hey, that's just a theory...
@@sunnydeee_ well bears and most mammals have pecs and abs they're just not defined because 'working out' doesn't exist. Some of the most athletic animals like horses and kangaroos and even some dogs have defined muscles. Considering voli is as smart or smarter than humans, I'd like to think he does some gym work with trees and boulders
meh aatrox wants to kill everything. Even if some dude wants to be friends with him he kills him and feeds of him. Aatrox doesnt have any friends except eternal darkness and hatred against everything
@@runtergerutscht4401 aatrox can kill anyone. He is the god killer. He found a way to kill someone who is immortal so i dont think that voli, ornn, anivia and so on would be a problem for him. Maybe he dies a couple times but his sword cant be destroyed so he just revives over and over until he finds a way to kill his enemies and that even if they are stronger than him and immortal
@@Kerblbua not anyone. so far i think he has only "killed" pantheon, but im not sure of he kileld him or just destroyed the link cuz right now atreus is pretty much replacing pantheon as an aspect of war. are you sure his sword cant be destroyed?
I like that they didn't make him hate Ornn with all of his heart, but you can tell that he actually loves his brother even though he tries to not show it
Theory: When Volibear got into his fight with Ornn (or sometime in his past), he in fact was killed and over time his form froze deep beneath the ice. His conscience still remained, however. He thinks with doubt (due to his dreams of his own bones) that he is still alive, as whenever people call up him, and believe in him once again, he can take shape via them summoning him. He now fights to grasp followers, allowing him to live once more and fight for his wishes to return his land to a wild state once more. I am unsure if he knows he is dead though, since he states "A god cannot die!", but maybe he is referring to peoples belief in him keeping him around. Just thought of all this on a whim, tell what you think
Actually due to their being ellipses, its also a possibility that he just left out the rest of the words he would have said because of sadness. So really it goes either way like Necrit said
So there is a really interesting quote from Pantheon saying:"The power of these "God's" is but an echo of our own" Which might be connected to the gods in Freljord as well
"In my dreams, I see bones frozen in ice. I wonder... if they are my own." I thought about this. I think he meant that he sees what he wants to see, freljordians fighting for survival, leaving bonees in the plains of ice. But instead he realises that these are HIS bones, because he has been forgotten by his people, who got into farming. Don't know what you think about this but i think it makes sense.
Aatrox definetly. Maybe aatrox would die but he would come back. And again. and again. until voli is dead. I mean aatrox killed pantheon and pantheon is stronger than voli mind u
Volibear should win that, he’s far too big, I believe Aatrox is around the size of a building but Voli is the size of a mountain. We don’t know the context behind Aatrox killing Pantheon other than him “hitting him so hard he killed the aspect” but Atreus was still able to get up afterwards so he killed an aspect but not one human? How do you hit an aspect’s vessel so hard you kill the aspect when Aurelion Sol I think killed a vessel and didn’t kill the aspect?
@@justhair17 exactly, it says something like this in the lore too, I believe. That pantheon was like "get in the passenger's seet Atreus, I'll take the wheel because you cant drive" And so he manifested too hard to simply gtfo when killed.
Given that Anivia seems the most gentle and compassionate of the bunch, if I had to guess for what the line about "the ice burning in" her heart is suggesting, I'd assume either a caged fury at the state of things, or that she holds back the worst of her storms to the point where it affects her health, possibly forcing her to do the phoenix rebirth/reincarnation thing after exploding into an epic winter storm.
4:17 i think your missing the point here, if you remember the Iron boar AKA the forgotten god then you'll know why he interacted Bristle instead of Sejuani I theorize that when Valhir/Volibear realize that the boar that Sejuani rode was his long lost brother, his forgotten brother the *Iron boar* . Here Volibear could not believe that such a god would be serving a human as a stead and he questions it yet bristle does not reply, perhaps something happened to the boar god even none of the siblings knew about. I theorize that maybe one of the 3 sisters had a similar power that can turn gods into their prisons just like how the rest of the darkin got turned into weapons but instead of weapons they become normal animals. Unlike the darkin this power causes the god to be unconcious and instead their animal forms were the ones who were concious as if their mind was their own instead of the gods. So Bristle currently wasn't himself but his power can be sensed by his siblings just like how volibear discovering the *Iron boar's* fate
I agree this sounds cool but I don't think it's possible. If Sejuani's boar WAS a demigod then wouldn't she have noticed something, like idk maybe superpowers? I think that it's just that Voli knows the animals of Freljord and some even by name. And seeing as sejuani is a rather prominent Character it would make sense for him to at least have heard of this undoubtedly mighty boar, just like he knows of Rengar for some reason.
I hope the seal sister is animalistic in form like the other Gods, and not just be some Mermaid looking thing. I want a full on sea monster instead of being humanoid similar to amici’s but i guess that’s if they ever release her
I refuse to call him "Volibear" now. Valhír is a much better name since he loves the old ways of Vorrjaard so much. plus I'm a sucker for Old Norse/Icelandic speech and names. So, Valhír it is! Edit: I understand that Valhír, Ornn and Avivia are enormous beings seeing that Ornn lives in an active mountain while Valhír's new art depicts him as a literal *_giant_* polar bear. I mean, just look at the tiny red flags! Compare this to the Targonian gods like Atreus(Pantheon) or Taric who are just human sized. Even the demons like Fiddlesticks or Tahm Kench would be a mere bug compared to Valhír! Maybe the Demigods would be more on point with Illaoi's god, but I doubt that many other "conventional" gods are able to step up to a god such as Ornn, nevermind have the hope to survive against the embodiment of fury and savagery known as Valhír. Maybe that giant greedy crab from the Shadow isles would make for a good fight, though.
I cannot understand why Volibear and his brothers would need the belief of humans to exist or to have power, if they already existed long before humans appeared. Ornn was powerful enough to literally fight the land itself, long before humans were born. And he even says that "Gods do not need followers. Followers need gods." I think what Volibear means is that he can live without humans, but it would be a meaningless life. He wants to live with warriors worshiping him, just as it was in the old days
When he says is he alive if he's not in the heart of warriors doesn't mean he's powerless because people aren't praying to him. He himself says that the tribes don't call to him anymore, and yet he doesn't complain about fading away. The statement about being in the hearts of warriors is about him truly living for something. It's like when a man questions if he's truly alive without a wife. This doesn't mean that without a wife the man is dead.
Why does volibear insult people as warmbloods. I mean hes a bear. Hes insulting himself. But maybe he just either doesnt have blood or hes just to cool for warmblood (pun intended) or he doesnt care
Maybe the story of bones in ice is not literal. Maybe it means that Volibear cannot move on from the old Freljord and doesn't accept change. He is frozen in his time and this line is him doubting.
Maybe Lissandra is controled by the ice sister, which is the demi god that control the true ice, maybe volibear call her little witch because she is controled by the power of the youngest sister of the demi gods, the true ice demi god, she is the youngest god because the world didn't need the true ice untill the void appeared, and when the world needed a new demi god in flarijord that will trap the void the ice demi god created. The everwinter sister could be Anivia as you said.
Mby u knew that zilean hates volibear but dis u knew that Bard hate zilean its all beacuse He thinks that time wouldnt need to be controled by some mortal human being...
Real talk, although I'm behind on lore and am slowly catching up, as far as I'm aware Anivia hasn't been appropriately updated yet. I've even seen Gragas finally have a video about his lore updates while scrolling down the channel. But Anivia still hasn't had a proper time to shine and that makes me real sad. Plus, her in-game model could really use some love.
6:45 the way he says surely there was a reason seemed as if he doesn't remember doing it so maybe how he has a dark side is like an alter ego and he just turns into it randomly and does horrible things then turns into the great white bear again not remembering what he did
What if he really is dreaming and his real body is frozen somewhere? This could maybe be tied to the next new champion about dreams? Since Ixtal and ionia are the 2 regions with vastayans, maybe the vastayans have something to do with the primal gods? All the primal gods have an animal motive and vastayans are basically half animal kinda like a demigod. That could explain how volibear knows rengar (from ixtal) and the next champion about dreams could be a vastayan from ionia? That would tie everything nicely
13:05 "I Am A God, I Cannot Die. But Do I Live If I Am Not In The Hearts Of Warriors?" Ornn also has this quote "Gods Doesn't Need Followers, Followers Need Gods" Bruh! What are your thoughts??
Could the dreams Volibear mentions be about the watchers and their influence slowly growing over the land? If Volibear is close to the land then it could be possible that whatever happens to the land he to feels
9:32 I always understood it as voltage bear, thunder bear. The Freljordian demigod of thunder, who has a Stattik in his passive and an Ohmwrecker in his ult
The Zilean interaction is a reference to Tom "Zileas" Cadwell, Head of Design on Research and Development at Riot Games. He was famously against an "armored bear champion" and frequently stated as such on Twitter and other social media. Source: League of Legends Wiki (Easter Eggs)
The line where he's talking about his dreams of frozen bones and how he wonders if they're his. It makes me think how Volibear may be thinking of what will happen to him in the future as people are slowly forgetting him. Or maybe Volibear is already dead and the Volibear that people see now is his spirit.
In regards to the final point made in the video, ornn has been almost forgotten in the freljord, and many of his voice lines refer to not having followers. Yet ornn is still content and powerful. What a proud ornn main I am
Necrit: Now THIS is an interesting line
Also Necrit: I have no idea what he's talking about here.
Those are not exclusive traits
when shit's so wild u don't even know tf he's talking about, that's when it gets interesting dude
Why zilean hates volibear?
@@IamnotfromUSA Because creator of Zilean was against riot releasing " Armored bear " known as Volibear. Right now Volibear is without armor so that rivalry is smaller.
@@eonnephilim852 It's really not the wild, he's saying he could die, people aren't worshipping him anymore so he could fade without worship like Janna is. That's why he sees the bones in ice
Zaun citizen: I can't breathe, help me janna
Janna: I got you fam
Janna be like: R
Janna : **eargasm**
@@zainekatsumi You breathe through your ears? I mean.. I wont judge, you do you..
@@Xavier-kg7bt I think he means that Janna eargasm when she hear someone calling her.
@@igorporfiirio4915 yep... Its ok he did put a joke on the top of a joke. Keep cool comrades!
Let's go. Necrit is faster than the queue time...
queue time for urf
thats honestly really sad XD
Turner Marius :0
Everything is xd
Lmao.
At this point, Riot should straight up hire SkinSpotlights at this point
Indeed
Riot is really hecking stingy, hell, skinspotlights is basically a big advert for literally every single lol cosmetic (and a treat for champ interaction nuts like myself). Why would riot not pay dividends? Or at least offer something unique?
@@justascarecrow6988 Are they not part of the league partner program of Riot Games?
@@Bob-rg8pv i mean, i dont see giveaways for green chromas so i'll asume they're not
@@justascarecrow6988 If you haven't paid attention to the beginning, Riot's official LoL channel used a footage owned by Skin Spotlights altogether with their watermark too
About the bones in the dreams line: maybe he's imprisoned in ice, together with the frozen watchers. In one of Lissandra's stories, she dreams in order to contact the watchers, maybe something similar is at play here...? Also, voli's teaser has him clawing up from the howling abyss, where the watchers were imprisoned.
Neat theory.
In the ARAM event and when he uses his ultimate he becomes kind of ghost like. Maybe he is, in the form that we have today just the after image or dream of a dead god. And he is just projecting his image onto the world.
but how did he come to be frozen together with the frozen watchers tho?
I think his dreams refer to his current state, which is likely near its end. Being forgotten by people it wears his power and ability to manifest, this feels to him akin to be frozen and the bones might indicate a forseeable future to him. Just as Necrit thought, primal gods needed to be worshipped to manifest and become powerful.
His death animation is him turning into a frozen husk and shattering.
I think he's either seeing the future or a possible future where he is dead due to his fighting.
O: "You were my brother, Volibear. I tolerated you."
V: *_"I HATE YOU!"_*
O: I FAILED YOU BROTHER I FAILED YOU I LOVED YOU
Shadow otaku452 Be quiet.
"Brother, may I have some oats?"
@@HeartYgoV: *I HATE YOU*
@@markofthebeast2130 O: *leaves him arms and legs chopped off at the side of a volcano*
the "just" in 7:39 is used as "fair, right, equitable" and not as the adverb "just"
I agree his tone does have regret.
Necrit said it can be taken as both, since it is not certain.
No it doesn't mean just as in justice, in Spanish we got a distinction between just of justice and just as he was about to say sonething and in Spanish, he didn't meant that, it seems he was about to say something
master golden egg I’m pretty sure that’s just different. Language barriers
@@brazz1578 usually thats actually how you figure this stuff out. Wow lore ppl do it all the time - Romance Languages are really a gem for that.
Feed me lore, lord necrit
Moar loar
I don't know if I can call this a theory, but let's try
In Neil Gaiman's "American Gods" he creates a universe in which gods are only as powerful as the number of believers they have: prayers, sacrifices and stuff like that give them the powers they weild, and even though as gods they could not technically die, if no one, literally no one believed in them anymore they could just choose to lose their will to live, and actually die (kind of like fairies in Peter Pan) . Also, in his book, there is not just a single depiction per god, but as many as people believe in (for example, there is not just one Jesus Christ, but many, with different ethnicities, core beliefs and so on)
So, with that said, my "theory" is that A. When Volibear says "But do I live if I am not in the hearts of warriors?" he's mentioning something similar to Neil Gaiman's depiction of gods, in fact, Ornn himself says that "Gods don't need worshippers", and maybe they don't technically need them to live, they exist even without their belief, but that belief, that faith, those worshippers are what makes them truly alive, what gives them true power to shape the world, a power he once wielded and has now lost
B. I'm not sure about the idea of a "sleeping volibear", but I think that, again, similar to Neil Gaiman's book, there is an original Volibear, Valhir of the first thunder and blablabla, but instead of having different version of the same god, there is the one god that appears in different forms when summoned because of the ways his followers perceive him, so if they believe in the "thousand pierced bear" with freljordian horror and stuff, that's the form Volibear will assume, that's the power he'll be able to grant people, but if someone actually knew his true form, maybe his true name even, he could appear in his full form, all fluffy and white
Long comment, no one is going to read it but ok bye
I think these were cool thoughts. :)
Yep. i was going to mention the similarities with "American Gods". Voli thinks like an old god, he actually feels a lot like Odin, they both take different names human gave them and both want to start a war to regain their lost power.
Tommaso Berardi good stuff m8
Thats exactly how spirit gods work! Gj bro, you figured it out :). Except all you have to do is know they exist
13:06 This quote gets even more interesting when realize that Ornn claims the opposite "Gods don't need followers, followers need Gods"
Ornn doesn't care that he have followers,Volibear does care (srry for Bad english)
Maybe Ornn doesn't think that way because he has followers and thus doesn't have the problem voli has :I
@@runtergerutscht4401 most of ornns followers got wiped out dint they
@@dedalus6188 Ornn actually had a lot of admiration for his followers, but being the strong silent type he never verbalized it. When they died in is fight with Volibear it really hurt him emotionally. Also the "i need people to believe in me or I don't exist" theory doesn't make much sense at all. Seeing as how these gods existed and were arguably at their strongest and formed the Freljord long before humans inhabited it.
@@dedalus6188 Its not like he doesn't care, its just that he doesn't need them. Since he was really upset that Volibear killed his followers
When Gragas gets a rework, his lore is gunna be amazing!....
Hes gonna be the third sister. She didnt appear until now because she went to be a star guardian tho.
He’s going to be the god that created Aurelion
@@dion7520 xD
3:40 so basically this is...
"Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch! I was there when it was written."
Except it's the other way around and she didnt kill him, he blinded her
I thought it was Saruman reference but yeah
Aslan!
I disagree, by the way he pronounces "just" it is very clear that he is talking about justice and that it's not a cut-off sentence
As necrit says the voice lines of in game characters isn't worth shit lorewise. Plus I don't think Volibear hates Ornn to a killing degree but like brotherly hatred born of disagreement.
Riku Harada
I think you misunderstand, because Necrit never says the voice lines aren’t worth shit lorewise. This entire video is about what Volibear’s interactions mean for the lore.
@@RikuHarada6996 I didn't mean just to be a cut-off word but rather an adjective to justice. In the end, Ornn is his brother and there can be as much hard feelings between them as you want, his death/killing will still shake him. To me he is doubting whether this conflict to death between brothers was a right thing and whether killing Ornn was justice or injustice.
@@kiza888 "Just" is a word though. I am a fair and just person. Voli was saying, was this just? As in, was this right?
'Just' itself is a full word, 'surely this is justice ' would actually make less sense than what he says. It is more archaic, but it would would make sense for an old demigod to say. "Surely this is just." Is a full sentence, meaning, "surely, this was the right thing to do."
Volibear: "I am Valhir!"
Necrit: "Yes, he does say he is Valir."
The letter H: "Am I a joke to you?"
This comment is what I was looking for.
Volibear: "A god cannot die!"
Aatrox: "Are you sure about that?"
Let the matchup roll in xd
you watch necrit and you think that aatrox has a chance against a firstborn? are you serious?
(saying this as a xerath main, and also, xerath would get stomped by volibear as well -_-)
Aatrox may be a threat to volibear tho since he’s the one who killed aspect of war, pantheon.
@@gilsai4990 Aatrox is basically inmortal even the celestials cant destroy the sword were he is trapped so its basically aatrox fights everyone and probably dies some times and then he comes back until he wins, and if he killed a celestial who is no dout above a regular runaterra god (the firstborn arent even gods they are demigods they are the children of the first gods) i think aatrox could kill voli or at least the form he takes because all the first born are more like spirits
@@TheHunter932 aatrox is a beast (no pun intended)
he can figure out how to kill anyone. He is the god killer. He killed fucking pantheon like wtf get out of the way voli u noob
Oh! Volibear's Bio also mentions an "Iron boar" Demigod, who did infact take Volibears side.
Wonder what happened to him.
I personally hope that in the future Iron Boar will be an ADC (somehow) and Seal Sister a Support. Thats how we can have a full team of Elder Gods)
Garganzollo I don’t think an Iron boar matches an ADC from a characters perspective
Bristle maybe?
What if bristle is actually a primal god xD
@@garganzollo3365 unless it's like a spike shooting bear, yeah, that aint happenin.
There’s potentially a sixth god. The Iron Boar has been mentioned a few times
It's Sejuani's boar, it is called like that because it's the strongest alive, but it isn't a god
Pietro Daniele Volibear’s new biography on universe confirms the Iron Boar was a demigod
Glam
It’s also possible that the Iron Boar is the god of everwinter that Volibear mentioned, meaning that it is also his 3rd sister
@@jamesscott7215 a Boar as a sister? Sounds pretty weird
Boars have genders??? Wait thats illegal
In your last point you talk about how the Gods might work in a similar way spirits do by relying on followers to worship them but in one of the Ornn's quotes he says something along the lines of "Gods don't need followers. Followers need Gods."
They have different point of view on it. And Ornn must be the one who's right since he shaped the land and started forging before followers came to birth. But it may just be metaphorical when Volibear says he doesnt exist without people worshipping him.
Also worth to mention it shows even more how the 2 brothers are very different in their way of thinking. They really are opposite
I also remember Ornn denying he has followers (even when he had the Hearthblood) and he said he doesn't like having followers and just likes to be by himself.
@@adriancam5331 In his story, right before he fights Volibear he tells him he doesnt have followers. That the people below his mountain forge, build and create for themselves, not for any god.
So he does.
Yet in game he says "I had followers once, they tried..."
So he knows it was his followers, he just couldnt admit it at the time or still can admit it in public.
I think the whole follower thing with Ornn is more of him not liking the term. He doesnt want people to follow gods. He wants people to be as free as gods are. Inspiration is something is understands, but the term "follower" is stronger and implies a strong link. Too much to have any kind of identity to the ones following. Like sheeps to a sheperd, the sheeps don't have their own thought, they only follow the sheperd because he's the one who made the 1st movement.
Ornn wants to inspire at best.
That's my take on why Ornn denies his own followers.
Sorry for the few mistakes here and there, didnt quite re-read myself before responding
I think the line "In my dreams, I see bones frozen in ice. I wonder... if they are my own". Might in fact by a reference that the true Volibear is either sleeping, or maybe even dead. The Volibear we see in-game is a manifestation summoned and shaped by whoever has called upon him either willingly or unwillingly.
This would also tie in to the fact that there aren't really many worthy warriors (that look up to Volibear) in Freljord anymore, confirmed by "But do I live if I am not in the hearts of warriors?".
Don’t forget, Necrit: his bio mentions another primal deity referred to as the “iron boar.” Currently, we have Ornn, Volibear, Anivia, the Seal Sister, the Iron Boar, and/or Everwinter.
I was actually very disappointed with Voli interaction because they was short and lack luster. It would have been great if he had interaction with some Darken or ascended characters.
9:43 an alternative take is that "Thunder roars" refers to Volibear himself, but "Wind howls" refers to the Howling Abyss, implying that the "ignoring the call to battle" is foolish because the Watchers are stirring from their slumber.
But hey, that's just a theory...
A GAME THEORY
Volibear looks like vin diesel as a thunderbear
And sounds like him a little bit
Still he has so much hair and fur
Character sexualization in
league was an issue before but i think they took it too far with this one. They gave the bear pecs and abs man. 😂
@@sunnydeee_ well bears and most mammals have pecs and abs they're just not defined because 'working out' doesn't exist. Some of the most athletic animals like horses and kangaroos and even some dogs have defined muscles. Considering voli is as smart or smarter than humans, I'd like to think he does some gym work with trees and boulders
How to unsee and unhear 😅
Volibear: a god can't die. "Aatrox wants to know your location."
Honestly, I feel like Aatrox and Volibear would get along well.
meh aatrox wants to kill everything. Even if some dude wants to be friends with him he kills him and feeds of him. Aatrox doesnt have any friends except eternal darkness and hatred against everything
@@Kerblbua he might ally with him tho if Ornn proves too tough to kill alone.
@@runtergerutscht4401 aatrox can kill anyone. He is the god killer. He found a way to kill someone who is immortal so i dont think that voli, ornn, anivia and so on would be a problem for him. Maybe he dies a couple times but his sword cant be destroyed so he just revives over and over until he finds a way to kill his enemies and that even if they are stronger than him and immortal
@@Kerblbua not anyone. so far i think he has only "killed" pantheon, but im not sure of he kileld him or just destroyed the link cuz right now atreus is pretty much replacing pantheon as an aspect of war. are you sure his sword cant be destroyed?
Pretty sure Atreus killed some of Aatrox's vessels.
I believe the 5th god was already mentioned in his bio where he talks about a boar god(ess) that sided with him on his opinion on humans
He wasn't a bear. He was a boar. "the iron boar". No offense, dude.
Swain Is dislexic lol
@@mattiruokomaki2505Why did i typed bear (am i dumb)
Where is do i read his bio ?
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I like that they didn't make him hate Ornn with all of his heart, but you can tell that he actually loves his brother even though he tries to not show it
Which is the exact same thing with ornn.
Theory:
When Volibear got into his fight with Ornn (or sometime in his past), he in fact was killed and over time his form froze deep beneath the ice. His conscience still remained, however. He thinks with doubt (due to his dreams of his own bones) that he is still alive, as whenever people call up him, and believe in him once again, he can take shape via them summoning him. He now fights to grasp followers, allowing him to live once more and fight for his wishes to return his land to a wild state once more.
I am unsure if he knows he is dead though, since he states "A god cannot die!", but maybe he is referring to peoples belief in him keeping him around.
Just thought of all this on a whim, tell what you think
Sounds really possible ..but I hope its not
I am not sure if Ornn would even kill Voli, I mean ornn is a nice person at his core and after all Voli IS his brother:/
@@runtergerutscht4401 True true, that may debunk it.
"this is just"
As "This is fair"... just as in Justice.
Actually due to their being ellipses, its also a possibility that he just left out the rest of the words he would have said because of sadness. So really it goes either way like Necrit said
He said ”Is this just...“ btw
@@ianswerwithquestionmarks3237 no he didn't...
@@kylegultiano5489 For a sec I thought dyslexia got to me again
So there is a really interesting quote from Pantheon saying:"The power of these "God's" is but an echo of our own"
Which might be connected to the gods in Freljord as well
"In my dreams, I see bones frozen in ice. I wonder... if they are my own."
I thought about this.
I think he meant that he sees what he wants to see, freljordians fighting for survival, leaving bonees in the plains of ice. But instead he realises that these are HIS bones, because he has been forgotten by his people, who got into farming.
Don't know what you think about this but i think it makes sense.
Did you mean to say that he sees the bones of his people as his own? If so I kinda agree on that point.
Or maybe, lissandra is doing something in his dreams
what if its just a refrence to his death animation ingame?
I think he might be seeing the future or at least a possible future.
@@kumoko3728 obviousy mosrt of the actions ingame are based on elements of the story.
Now that I've seen it a few times, I wanna know you're opinion: Who would win in a battle between Volibear and Aatrox?
Aatrox definetly. Maybe aatrox would die but he would come back. And again. and again. until voli is dead. I mean aatrox killed pantheon and pantheon is stronger than voli mind u
Volibear should win that, he’s far too big, I believe Aatrox is around the size of a building but Voli is the size of a mountain. We don’t know the context behind Aatrox killing Pantheon other than him “hitting him so hard he killed the aspect” but Atreus was still able to get up afterwards so he killed an aspect but not one human? How do you hit an aspect’s vessel so hard you kill the aspect when Aurelion Sol I think killed a vessel and didn’t kill the aspect?
@@AkumaKuma104 Maybe because when Aurelion killed the vessel, the aspect didnt completely take over the vessel like in the case of Atreus
@@justhair17 exactly, it says something like this in the lore too, I believe. That pantheon was like "get in the passenger's seet Atreus, I'll take the wheel because you cant drive"
And so he manifested too hard to simply gtfo when killed.
@@AkumaKuma104 I dont think aatrox cares about how big someone is he always finds a way to kill his enemies. Even if they are immortal :)
Given that Anivia seems the most gentle and compassionate of the bunch, if I had to guess for what the line about "the ice burning in" her heart is suggesting, I'd assume either a caged fury at the state of things, or that she holds back the worst of her storms to the point where it affects her health, possibly forcing her to do the phoenix rebirth/reincarnation thing after exploding into an epic winter storm.
"Gods do not need followers, followers need gods" Ornn, the mountainsmith
Everything is a dream
Freljord is Yharnam, confirmed
"A god cannot die"
"Aatrox wouldn't aggree"
I am an Aatrox main, and im currently preparing to show Volibear that gods can indeed die xD
i beat many mains aatrox with volibear
voli is a hard counter ....
I do love how Volibear calls other people warmbloods like he isn't a warmblooded animal.
real question here, how people of lore discord know the meaning of val? is there any freljord language dictionary? or text with freljord language?
Freljordian language is mix between the Scandinavian Languages (Swedish, Danish, Norwegian)
When he talked about bones frozen in ice in his dreams I immediately thought of lissandra.
I need the LoR new cards interactions
Plot twist : Gragas is drinking the blood of Volibear because he is Vladimir's son
So he chugs on the blood of the diabetic? No wonder he’s shaped like a barrel himself.
"I am a god, i cannot die "
E-Excuses me, there is somes darkins knocking at the door....
he only killed the mind of a celestial no real good :/
Pantheon : *aggressively plays his theme*
Cringe
@@seelfire4725 Volibear is a demi god soo...... maybe if he kill the "god" inside of him we got a normal bear ?
Kindred lurking in the background: that's what they all say
volibear interactions explained: i slepp
skin spotlight is not a part of riot: real shitt?
4:17 i think your missing the point here, if you remember the Iron boar AKA the forgotten god then you'll know why he interacted Bristle instead of Sejuani
I theorize that when Valhir/Volibear realize that the boar that Sejuani rode was his long lost brother, his forgotten brother the *Iron boar* . Here Volibear could not believe that such a god would be serving a human as a stead and he questions it yet bristle does not reply, perhaps something happened to the boar god even none of the siblings knew about.
I theorize that maybe one of the 3 sisters had a similar power that can turn gods into their prisons just like how the rest of the darkin got turned into weapons but instead of weapons they become normal animals. Unlike the darkin this power causes the god to be unconcious and instead their animal forms were the ones who were concious as if their mind was their own instead of the gods.
So Bristle currently wasn't himself but his power can be sensed by his siblings just like how volibear discovering the *Iron boar's* fate
Damn. Now, you made me think about it
I agree this sounds cool but I don't think it's possible.
If Sejuani's boar WAS a demigod then wouldn't she have noticed something, like idk maybe superpowers?
I think that it's just that Voli knows the animals of Freljord and some even by name. And seeing as sejuani is a rather prominent Character it would make sense for him to at least have heard of this undoubtedly mighty boar, just like he knows of Rengar for some reason.
I hope the seal sister is animalistic in form like the other Gods, and not just be some Mermaid looking thing. I want a full on sea monster instead of being humanoid similar to amici’s but i guess that’s if they ever release her
7:52 that just sounds like a catch phrase for cereal.
;)
what kind of cereal do you eat bro holy shit
This makes me want some skulls for breakfast
I refuse to call him "Volibear" now. Valhír is a much better name since he loves the old ways of Vorrjaard so much.
plus I'm a sucker for Old Norse/Icelandic speech and names. So, Valhír it is!
Edit: I understand that Valhír, Ornn and Avivia are enormous beings seeing that Ornn lives in an active mountain while Valhír's new art depicts him as a literal *_giant_* polar bear. I mean, just look at the tiny red flags!
Compare this to the Targonian gods like Atreus(Pantheon) or Taric who are just human sized. Even the demons like Fiddlesticks or Tahm Kench would be a mere bug compared to Valhír!
Maybe the Demigods would be more on point with Illaoi's god, but I doubt that many other "conventional" gods are able to step up to a god such as Ornn, nevermind have the hope to survive against the embodiment of fury and savagery known as Valhír.
Maybe that giant greedy crab from the Shadow isles would make for a good fight, though.
I was waiting for this! It’s really great how there are so many new things in these interactions 😄
They really ought to update anivia's model, make her more in tow with the other demi-gods, she looks like a tiny amateur ice sculpture
Necrit, at 8:48 you say there can't be a god above the others, but in the lost tales of ornn, he mentions the original god at the beginning
Who Needs Weapons I Have A Snake he doesnt say there cant be one he just says he has no evidence to back it up
I cannot understand why Volibear and his brothers would need the belief of humans to exist or to have power, if they already existed long before humans appeared. Ornn was powerful enough to literally fight the land itself, long before humans were born. And he even says that "Gods do not need followers. Followers need gods."
I think what Volibear means is that he can live without humans, but it would be a meaningless life. He wants to live with warriors worshiping him, just as it was in the old days
When he says is he alive if he's not in the heart of warriors doesn't mean he's powerless because people aren't praying to him. He himself says that the tribes don't call to him anymore, and yet he doesn't complain about fading away. The statement about being in the hearts of warriors is about him truly living for something. It's like when a man questions if he's truly alive without a wife. This doesn't mean that without a wife the man is dead.
Why does volibear insult people as warmbloods. I mean hes a bear. Hes insulting himself. But maybe he just either doesnt have blood or hes just to cool for warmblood (pun intended) or he doesnt care
what if Ornn actually killed volibear and his actual form is just a temporary form (explains also why others see him differently.
Do you think that LoL will release the animated film about all the champions/LoL universe...?
Maybe the story of bones in ice is not literal. Maybe it means that Volibear cannot move on from the old Freljord and doesn't accept change. He is frozen in his time and this line is him doubting.
Maybe Lissandra is controled by the ice sister, which is the demi god that control the true ice, maybe volibear call her little witch because she is controled by the power of the youngest sister of the demi gods, the true ice demi god, she is the youngest god because the world didn't need the true ice untill the void appeared, and when the world needed a new demi god in flarijord that will trap the void the ice demi god created. The everwinter sister could be Anivia as you said.
Mby u knew that zilean hates volibear but dis u knew that
Bard hate zilean its all beacuse
He thinks that time wouldnt need to be controled by some mortal human being...
Real talk, although I'm behind on lore and am slowly catching up, as far as I'm aware Anivia hasn't been appropriately updated yet. I've even seen Gragas finally have a video about his lore updates while scrolling down the channel. But Anivia still hasn't had a proper time to shine and that makes me real sad. Plus, her in-game model could really use some love.
i said this once and i will say this again
GIVE ANIVIA A VISUAL UPDATE
So the gods are basically like the movie rise of the guardians where Santa only exist if someone believes them?
So... is the Salt Godess... Nagakebouros? however it's spelled...
Plot twist;
Gragas' tattoos are spelling out Volibears name in Freljordian runes.
How does Volibear know Bristle's name though?Is Bristle a demigod? *HMMMMMMM*
8:22 In Spanish that line goes by "A godess named my land" so the God he is referring to might be a "She"
About Volibear's dream about his frozen bones - his death animation is him transforming in ice sculpture.
Humans: plant crops that they can eat, so that they dont freaking starve or something.
Volibear: Wait, that Illegal
First
Month of the year is January
say kurwa pls
"Just" ins't about justice? ( voli in orn killed interaction)
Do you think we will get an Anivia rework? or atleast a VFX update
When Voli dies, he became frosen, like from Lissandras passive. Does it mean anything?..
I am a God. I cannot die. But do I live if I am not in the hearts of warriors?
I felt that one.
make tristana full lore please my mom has cancer
13:24 That's not how the gods work? If they are forgoten,they have no power over the real world
6:45 the way he says surely there was a reason seemed as if he doesn't remember doing it so maybe how he has a dark side is like an alter ego and he just turns into it randomly and does horrible things then turns into the great white bear again not remembering what he did
The everwinter is probably around the far-true north, since there is colder. Maybe she even created the bale striders
Volibear is VA'd by Joe Swanson.
Don't forget about the Bilgewater card reactions. I warned you they'd be coming.
So he is a bear got a bull bro and a bird sis?
Damn the parents are sure something
What if he really is dreaming and his real body is frozen somewhere? This could maybe be tied to the next new champion about dreams? Since Ixtal and ionia are the 2 regions with vastayans, maybe the vastayans have something to do with the primal gods? All the primal gods have an animal motive and vastayans are basically half animal kinda like a demigod. That could explain how volibear knows rengar (from ixtal) and the next champion about dreams could be a vastayan from ionia? That would tie everything nicely
11:36 it's a wow/wc3 reference
What if the Summoner's Rift is a Dream Realm?
13:05 "I Am A God, I Cannot Die. But Do I Live If I Am Not In The Hearts Of Warriors?"
Ornn also has this quote "Gods Doesn't Need Followers, Followers Need Gods"
Bruh! What are your thoughts??
11:20 is probably about Lissandra and her ability to enter other people's dreams, and maybe even gods'.
12:20 what if its still 2 sister. Maybe he means that one sister is of ice and salt and the other of ice and everwinter("Anivia)
how does skinspotlight get eatly acces to those skins if they dont work for riot?
pbe
Could the dreams Volibear mentions be about the watchers and their influence slowly growing over the land? If Volibear is close to the land then it could be possible that whatever happens to the land he to feels
Is the volibear patch out???
Voli: "A GOD CAN NOT DIE"
Aatrox: "Haha cute bear"
Aatrox : Telling jokes aren't we?
Aatrox : dies
God of salt?
League of legends in a nutshell
I want to see a story with Aatrox vs Volibear
Volibear controls the wind and thunder
The Seal Sister is Urf, change my mind
9:32 I always understood it as voltage bear, thunder bear. The Freljordian demigod of thunder, who has a Stattik in his passive and an Ohmwrecker in his ult
The Zilean interaction is a reference to Tom "Zileas" Cadwell, Head of Design on Research and Development at Riot Games. He was famously against an "armored bear champion" and frequently stated as such on Twitter and other social media.
Source: League of Legends Wiki (Easter Eggs)
The line where he's talking about his dreams of frozen bones and how he wonders if they're his. It makes me think how Volibear may be thinking of what will happen to him in the future as people are slowly forgetting him. Or maybe Volibear is already dead and the Volibear that people see now is his spirit.
Anivia needs a rework
i forget she is there
In regards to the final point made in the video, ornn has been almost forgotten in the freljord, and many of his voice lines refer to not having followers. Yet ornn is still content and powerful. What a proud ornn main I am
Question, do you plan to do the new and updated cards in LoR for the old regions?