I find this a great definition of sport, it also explains paralympic sports beautifully. It isn't about who is the fastest of all, but who can be the fastest in a group with the same amount of limitations.
Even if this isn't necessarily about physics, I really enjoy these random videos! I had no idea that there was even such a thing as "racewalking". Keep it up!
The best game ever is catch. Only worth doing with an undefinable combination of cooperation and competition. Enjoyable between players of widely mixed ability. No judges needed. And rules would ruin it.
no clue, I've never done this type of racing. But I do remember from my earlier days of walking and running some walkers that could do a full marathon in less than 6 hours, I still consider them awesome to this day :)
I thik the problem with racewalking is the straight leg rule, which seems to superseed the "one foot on the ground" leading up to the multiple accounts of air time. This turns racewalking into a weird form of running.
Nice little insert of Therese Johaug there Henry! looks like the channel is doing well, hope you still have some time to ski this winter. (maybe do a clip explaining the physics of wax?)
it's much easier to judge than to try. i tried long distances to run and to walk. that comletely different types of action. i enjoy both, but noticed recently that race walking improves your regular walking posture a lot. good luck!
I hate to break it to you race walking guys/girls but there's a thing called running, you should try it you could run up to 30km/h but if you want to train to last longer there's this thing called jogging or a marathon. Idk if you guys/girls ever heard of it but it's an amazing way to improve endurance while still running fast.
As a racewalker myself, it is a sport. Many people say it's not a sport, and people have even said that Track and Field isn't a sport. Everyone I know who racewalks takes it seriously. The definition of sport is: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." And I can say that yes, you do exert A LOT of energy, and teams and individuals compete against each other in racewalk. Now I know that people won't agree with it, but thats my opinion. If anyone does take the time to read this, then I would just like to get my point out saying; PLEASE do not catcall at racewalkers!! We are not trying to impress anyone that is attracted to that racewalker. People who are racewalking are doing it for the sake of doing it, not to impress people or look sexual.
+Danielle Zmudzinski I can't agree with you more! I am a racewalker and have been made fun of many times, even in the middle of races, but I won't stop doing it. It's my passion
a, put sensor in shoe b. change rules so to allow x% of time in the air over some time or distance. c. during races, give competitors fair warning (i.e. at checkpoints, notify them about their grounding rate so they can adjust their style and not be DQ at next check point) d. set some other rules to disallow straight up running for small bursts. e. problem solved?
Minute physics is usually about physics. This one was about rules. Using time without a definition and once again, like for planetary epicycles, resorting to dark matter to account for parallax violates rules. And, other way round, break the stupid rule banning lines at right angles to the time axis while allowing lines at right angles to the position axis to cancel infinities. It's space-time. There is not supposed to be a distinction. Have you seen the 3.5 minute animation on TH-cam?Knut
I think the argument made here is rubbish - a proper sport has discrete rules, the ball is in or out in tennis, the first person to get to the end of a 100m race unaided wins, they can crawl there if they like as long as they get there first ! There are events like synchronised swimming and ice dancing that have artistic judgements, but I don't personally regard them as sports, they are shows in my view. The REAL problem with walking is that as you start to get good at it and speed up you effectively do a form of running and inevitably break the basic rules of walking - having a set of judges making arbitrary decisions pretending they can or cannot see it is ridiculous. I know that race walking is hard - but it's also a nonsense.
+Lman Rman " I don't personally regard them as sports, they are shows in my view." While everyone's entitled to their opinion, and you may by all means personally not regard racewalking as a sport, the definition of "sport" means "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.", and race walking absolutely matches that statement; and that statement is meant to reflect the way the word "sport" is used. No requirement for a technical criteria by which to judge success. Maybe race walking should tinker with their rules to more accurately reflect the reality, but race walking being a sport in which people compete to move the fastest while *appearing* to only be walking would still be a fine sport by most reasonable criteria.
If we're going to try and start defining things I think starting with a dictionary is probably a good way to go: athletics (æθˈlɛtɪks) - n 1. a. track and field events b. ( as modifier ): an athletics meeting 2. sports or exercises engaged in by athletes 3. the theory or practice of athletic activities and training So I think you're trying to get at is race-walking is an event within the larger domain of the sport or athletics which is generally termed "track and field" (in the USA).
I like how you took a short break from physics in one video. If you get interested in another quirky subject like racewalking, don't be afraid to post a video about it.
Talking about motorcycles, can you explain why counter-steering works and why it happens? I've never heard a satisfying enough answer describing the physics behind it.
The one who created this video just managed to underestimate the training and the sweat of thousands of athletes. How reliable is the method of checking the rules can not support that it is not a sport. I admire these people because they are not just athletes but champions. And many racewalkers can do their "funny walk", as you said, faster and longer than the people that actually run.
Why don't they allow them to be airborne for a maximum of 0.1275 seconds at a time and no more than 10.934% of the intire race as long as the leg is strait for a minimum of 0.362 seconds each stride and don't exeeds an average hight of 5.31 cm while cheeting. That way it's a lot easier for everyone to declare the winner. Or just have them pick up the milk on their way fooling about.
Race walking would be a pretty cool sport if they did use some form of electronic device to know whether an athlete is leaving the ground during the race. To me that is the main difference between running and walking is the fact that in walking you don't lose contact with the ground and in running, you do. To enforce the rule about the supporting leg being strait seems ludicrous to me, if all through the races everybody is violating the contact with the ground rule. If they did enforce that rule the world records would all have to be changed, because ALL of the records were made while cheating.
(Uptade) Now, in some of the major indoor volleball leagues, the captain or coach can request to roll the replay of the last rally if they consider that the judge have made a poor decision. And the judge can determine based on the replay if his decision was okay. Just saying...
This is not a physics question. It IS a sport, but a really dumb one. It makes no more sense than running backwards or on your hands. The purpose of racing is to go as fast as possible.
Minutephysics dropped the ball on this one. Racewalking is in denial about outrageous flaunting of regulations. If the very definition was to move as fast as you can with a straight front leg and without a random judge deciding you are leaving the ground then fine. But the rule state both feet should be on the ground. Its like saying lets drug test all cyclists, but only use biochemical knowledge and lab equipment from the 70s. Basically racewalking as a sport is a joke.
What attracts me to racewalking is that it is a curious combination of exertion and restraint. Imagine you're in 2nd place, one guy just barely ahead, and you're coming up on the finish line. You're trying, straining, doing EVERYTHING YOU CAN to get ahead of that guy... except for the one thing that would take you past him in a second: you can't RUN. The bans on tech, lying on the ground, etc. basically change that to "you can't run in too obvious a way." And I feel that this breaks the sport.
Racewalking IS a sport ok, I recently won Little Athletics Zone Chamionships for the 1500m race walk for the 4th year in a row, I also beat someone that is 16 or 17 and im only 13!!! It is really fun/hard but it is still a sport.
Aren't you saying that just because you have achieved something in racewalking and would like to validate your accomplishment? I agree that racewalkers are athletes and racewalking takes athletic ability, but to me, racewalking is not a sport.
Ryan Cleary It's almost like running with a handicap. If you watched the video you'd know that most racewalkers don't actually have one foot on the ground at all times. So why don't they just run then? A good majority of the racewalkers I see when I run 5ks are old or simply aren't athletic enough to run. So I guess by definition it's a sport, but to me it only seems like people do it because they aren't good enough or able to run.
The definition of a sport is: An activity involving PHYSICAL exertion and SKILL that is governed by a set of RULES or customs and often undertaken COMPETITIVELY. Marching Band contains all of those capitalized words, it takes skill, we have rules, we have competition, and you try going through weeks of band camp without feeling exhausted.
I understand its place : 1. It is not wise to just run around. Walking is way of self transportation. Speed walking and running is not energetically the same. 2. From point 1: There are gazillion of different running events in athletics therefore introducing walking makes some sense. There are also lots of different kinds of events in gymnastics as well (includes strange stuff). 3. I hate running. 4. It is exiting to follow in 20x times normal speed and curling beats it hands down 5. Arbitrary weird stuff is just cool.
Given this broad definition of Sport I'd say it's valid to state it either way, speed walking itself is a sport in the sense that it is "an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess" (if bowling counts so should this), but at the same time I could understand the idea of boxing this as an event within a sport or set of sports under the umbrella track and field (games that all seem to focus on individuals only against nature rather directly against other people).
so it's like the alternate strokes in swimming, where the freestyle stroke is by far the most efficient but they still do races where you have to use the other ones.
A more similar parallel is the line that you can't cross in the long jump, discus, or shot put; however, they all get multiple tries. It would be incredibly convoluted to have multiple races for racewalkers.
Sports (in my own opinion) is a physical activity which has a set of rules and a goal and involves moving muscles to the point in which they need more blood which causes the heart to pump more, more ATP to provide the energy needed, and causes the muscles to tire out and produce lactic acid.
Games vs Sports: Sports are games in which there is a way for an opponent to directly impede their opponent to score/win. In other words, if you can block a shot (basketball, all footballs, hockey sports, etc) it is a sport. Also, if racing one simply has to go faster than the other to impede them winning (ergo, sport). Games on the other hand don't always have this ability (golf, darts, go fish, etc.
It's a game on the computer where you are someone who forgot how to walk and must complete a 100m race using the letters Q, W, O, and P to control the person's legs (it's a lot harder than it sounds). I believe you can also download it on the iPhone or iPod but it's not as good.
"This has nothing to do with physics" seems to be an odd intro for every other video from a channel called MinutePhysics... But I'm not complaining. Love the channel
The point is, that with high speed cameras in race walking, it would be impossible to walk as fast as we do know without breaking the rules. So race walking would be less exhausting as it is now. And then, it would definitely be no sport. btw: The rule says that "Race walking is a progression of steps so taken that the walker makes contact with the ground so that no visible (to the human eye) loss of contact occurs." That's why only a few race walkers break the rules.
You can racewalk with running shoes, but there are shoes for racewalking. Those have less material to absorb feet impact on ground, are less rigid and with less weight too. Search "race walking shoes" in google.
Also going to just throw this one down here too (included noun def only) sport 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. 2. a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors. 3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime. 4. jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously. 5. mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.
Any sports sociology textbook would say an activity is considered sport if: it is competitive, has rules, requires physical skills and abiliities, and the goal is to win. So yes it is a sport. Nascar, dance comp, and others are also sports. I heard of a sport called chessboxing as well. Just because one doesn't like a sport or beleives it is not competitive enough does not mean it is not a sport
i say if all rules are followed and you can get a clear winner without the use of judges (by time [swimming], points system [tennis], or plain defeat [boxing]) then it is a sport, but if judges are required for determining a winner (cheerleading, dance, any other sort) then it is just a competition
Ha, I have a funny story about racewalking. I'm on the track & field team at my school, and my head coach for indoor track forbids anyone from our team to do the racewalk. Anyway, at one of our meets last season, The racewalk was going on and a few of our teammates were warming up in the outer lanes of the track, and one of my friends said "Hey guys, don't run on the track, there are people walking!" as the racewalkers passed, which was really funny. :p
Its like water polo, as told to me by someone who coached water polo. Grappling and fights are technically illegal, but fouls are only called by a judge above water. Underwater cameras have shown that insane fights occur underwater all the time, but if they started using these underwater cameras to call fouls, there would apparently be a foul every few seconds, and water polo would cease to function. Weird, but functional. And, any argument used to insult a sport can be used on any sport.
Isn't sport defined as an activity where a single person or a team competes in organized events to win over one another in a set of rules designed to test their physical or mental skill? In this case, it should fall under the category of being a sport
I don't think the majority of people slouched down onto one very important issue regarding this: the judges don't really judge if you cheated. They are there to determine whether you have a good, proper technique or not. You are being awarded for the proper technique and punished for lack thereof, not judged in regards to cheating.
I have one important distinction which must be made in order to call anything a sport. Seeing as how I believe sports were originally created in order to allow rival factions to compete against each other without actual bloodshed, and death, the key component is being able to physically alter the outcome. If you cannot physically interfere with your opponent in order to sway the outcome of the event, then it is not a sport, it is simply an activity turned competitive.
Infinity isn't necessarily the fastest speed or the longest track distance. Infinity is not a number nor a measurement, but a concept, so it cannot be used in normal mathematical equations. If you were to rephrase the question by substituting a variable, x, then yes, since the track is x meters long, and the speed of the person is x meters per instant, the person is able to pass x meters in an instant.
Our modern word Sport is an abbreviation of the Middle English Disport which is to entertain oneself or frolic, simply to have fun. So in a classical sense a sport could be anything that entertains, though modern definitions do stipulate that the entertainment should be physical and involve skill. I wonder what level does the physical activity have to be, after all thinking involves the movement of matter and it is a skill, so could thinking be a sport?
Not really, because the difficulty of all the skills and the routine as a whole are decided before you compete, so it's not about a judge's bias. That being said, yes, those scores can be more strict or lenient depending on the judges, but it's not completely arbitrary.
Just set some plates that detects pressure in both shoes. If none of the shoes have a determined weight it means that they doesn't have at foot on the ground.
1) So does playing the violin. 2) So is playing the violin. But chess isn't physically exhausting: just mentally. It doesn't make your muscles ache, for example. 3) So is investing in the stock market, for some people. For me, your "only difference" is the very thing that makes it not a sport, just as being in a car is the only thing that makes motor racing not athletics. Of course, there's nothing disrespectful in thinking that chess isn't a sport.
You could have easily turned this into a physics video. Would it be possible to racewalk according to the one foot on the ground rule at all because we might not ever actually touch anything at the atomic level. The electrons in the two solids would get close, but would repel each other if they got too close. But quantum mechanics says that an electron might occasionally be between the electron an nucleus of another atom at some point. See, physics.
Not so sure about that. *Many* games have defined rules. What matters more is that the focus of games is having fun and the focus of sport is... more complicated (being healthy, having fun, and in pro sport seeing how far human ability goes... probably many more reasons). It's a bit of a gray area, though, as you might notice.
Yes a sport, albeit a silly one. Here's how you make it very easy: A sport has to be an athletic competition with an objective scoring method (i.e. ball in hoop/net/hole, puck in net, ball across line, human across line, etc.). Sorry NASCAR, gymnastics, figure skating, diving, you're all just athletic competitions. Horse racing could be a sport I guess, but the horses are the athletes...
that can be said about any sport. a judge can be biased and a judge can play favorites. judges being human. though such things are illegal and hard to prove its not unheard of.
Yes, I know this. However neither do the people from whatever dictionary you got your definition. I'm sure there are many different definitions from all over the place that allow for almost any kind of competion or game. So the real question is who decides what definition to use? If I where to say, it is up to the individual in the end, and not some group of english majors.
There is this circle of "trendy" science and math guys who think all sports are somehow stupid and useless (most of them read crap like xkcd, by the way). I'm glad that this channel is NOT pandering to those guys. The combination of sports and science opens up endless, incredible possibilities, which the "trendy" science guys are too blind to see.
I always thought that to call something a "sport" is to have one thing that is loose and round in a playfield. Baseball, basketball, hockey, football/soccer, American football, and tennis fit this definition.
My question that I have posed before is "what is the difference between a sport and a game?" I consider Golf to be a sport and chess to be a game. Is there a difference? Are all sports games, and all games sports, or is it only a one-way path? I would concede that all sports are games, but I struggle with saying that all games are sports. Anyway... clearly I'm not getting much work done on this Monday...
My own take on the "Is it a sport?" question is that it's a sport if it it's competitive and involves physical skill. So I'd say that race-walking is a sport but caving isn't (not competitive, as far as I'm aware) and nor is chess (no physical skill: it would make no difference if you got somebody else to move the pieces on your command).
In my opinion, a sport is a competitive activity that has physical and mental components. By that definition, racewalking and thumb wrestling are, but arm wrestling, chess, rock-paper-scissors and many (most?) video games aren't (the first is all physical, the others are all mental).
To anyone who doubts race-walking's credential's as an endurance event ... watch the last half of this: MONDIALI DI ROMA 1987: IL DRAMMA DELLA MARCIA FEMMINILE
Could you do what the Racewalking Olympians do? If it's a challenge to do and if it requires a span of time to perform and train for, than it is a sport.
For woodwinds and brass, etc., the extreme amount of lung capacity and breath control can be tiring for people not accustomed to playing an instruments. Percussion is physical, obviously. I'm not saying it's a sport, that's just dumb to say, but I resent it when someone says it requires no physical exertion. That is simply not true.
As much as I admire the athletic ablilities of race walkers, I still think this is like trying to whisper as loud as possible.
+Bogs Binny i do that all the time, it's good training. Now I can last upwards of 20-30 minutes without breaks.
+7tuben I compare it to trying to have a bicycle race with the gears in the low range.
I AM WHISPERING!!
How loud can you whisper then?
or finding the world's largest pebble
Let the Ministry of Silly Walks decide.
Rogun987 lol
Rogun987 YES MONTY PYTHON!!!!
yes, our people!
I find this a great definition of sport, it also explains paralympic sports beautifully. It isn't about who is the fastest of all, but who can be the fastest in a group with the same amount of limitations.
Racewalking? I thought those were just runners who really needed to take a crap!
Oh. Emm. Gee!!! I literally almost spewed coffee out of my nose!!
Nah, this is the sport for women who love shopping. How do you think they hone their power walking skills?
Omg u literally made me spill my milk all over my desk
BinkieMcFartnuggets I always tried this with my brother until one starts runnih and wel are getting mad and calling eacother cheaters
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Even if this isn't necessarily about physics, I really enjoy these random videos! I had no idea that there was even such a thing as "racewalking". Keep it up!
7/10 Not enough QWOP screenshots.
I only looked this up because I just finished watching that episode of Malcolm in the middle where Hal becomes a racewalker.
The best game ever is catch. Only worth doing with an undefinable combination of cooperation and competition. Enjoyable between players of widely mixed ability. No judges needed. And rules would ruin it.
Ray Kent Dogs allowed
no clue, I've never done this type of racing. But I do remember from my earlier days of walking and running some walkers that could do a full marathon in less than 6 hours, I still consider them awesome to this day :)
This is DEFINITELY my new favourite channel!!! Thank you for uploading such great videos. You got my full Respect!
I would love to hear your definition of a sport! As far as I can gather, sport is defined by a change of footware :)
I thik the problem with racewalking is the straight leg rule, which seems to superseed the "one foot on the ground" leading up to the multiple accounts of air time. This turns racewalking into a weird form of running.
Playing this in Mario and sonic 2012 Olympic Games was the most fun I ever had playing a Summer games.
Nice little insert of Therese Johaug there Henry! looks like the channel is doing well, hope you still have some time to ski this winter. (maybe do a clip explaining the physics of wax?)
it's much easier to judge than to try. i tried long distances to run and to walk. that comletely different types of action. i enjoy both, but noticed recently that race walking improves your regular walking posture a lot. good luck!
Is mayonnaise an instrument?
Well instrument can be "normal" musical instruments, or tools. I wouldn't recognize mayonnaise as a tool...
VulpesVulpes42 You could recognize the swishing sound that it makes when you stir it around as a musical sound, thus mayonaise is an instrument XD
VulpesVulpes42 :P
ClassicPork I think that means yes.
*does it and eat you*
Ask squidward tortilini
I hate to break it to you race walking guys/girls but there's a thing called running, you should try it you could run up to 30km/h but if you want to train to last longer there's this thing called jogging or a marathon. Idk if you guys/girls ever heard of it but it's an amazing way to improve endurance while still running fast.
A new minutephysics video always makes my day :)
As a racewalker myself, it is a sport. Many people say it's not a sport, and people have even said that Track and Field isn't a sport. Everyone I know who racewalks takes it seriously. The definition of sport is: "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment." And I can say that yes, you do exert A LOT of energy, and teams and individuals compete against each other in racewalk. Now I know that people won't agree with it, but thats my opinion. If anyone does take the time to read this, then I would just like to get my point out saying; PLEASE do not catcall at racewalkers!! We are not trying to impress anyone that is attracted to that racewalker. People who are racewalking are doing it for the sake of doing it, not to impress people or look sexual.
Its a sport buts it's lame. Not to be rude but id rather watch usaine bolt race around the world than 1 minute of race walking
DAMN GIRL RACEWALK DAT ASS THIS WAYYYY *WHISTLE*
+Danielle Zmudzinski I can't agree with you more! I am a racewalker and have been made fun of many times, even in the middle of races, but I won't stop doing it. It's my passion
a, put sensor in shoe
b. change rules so to allow x% of time in the air over some time or distance.
c. during races, give competitors fair warning (i.e. at checkpoints, notify them about their grounding rate so they can adjust their style and not be DQ at next check point)
d. set some other rules to disallow straight up running for small bursts.
e. problem solved?
Can you do a video on whether NASCAR is considered a sport, and hope much strength it takes?
Minute physics is usually about physics. This one was about rules. Using time without a definition and once again, like for planetary epicycles, resorting to dark matter to account for parallax violates rules. And, other way round, break the stupid rule banning lines at right angles to the time axis while allowing lines at right angles to the position axis to cancel infinities. It's space-time. There is not supposed to be a distinction. Have you seen the 3.5 minute animation on TH-cam?Knut
I think the argument made here is rubbish - a proper sport has discrete rules, the ball is in or out in tennis, the first person to get to the end of a 100m race unaided wins, they can crawl there if they like as long as they get there first !
There are events like synchronised swimming and ice dancing that have artistic judgements, but I don't personally regard them as sports, they are shows in my view.
The REAL problem with walking is that as you start to get good at it and speed up you effectively do a form of running and inevitably break the basic rules of walking - having a set of judges making arbitrary decisions pretending they can or cannot see it is ridiculous.
I know that race walking is hard - but it's also a nonsense.
Running is hard - but it's also a nonsense
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+Lman Rman " I don't personally regard them as sports, they are shows in my view."
While everyone's entitled to their opinion, and you may by all means personally not regard racewalking as a sport, the definition of "sport" means "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an
individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.", and race walking absolutely matches that statement; and that statement is meant to reflect the way the word "sport" is used. No requirement for a technical criteria by which to judge success. Maybe race walking should tinker with their rules to more accurately reflect the reality, but race walking being a sport in which people compete to move the fastest while *appearing* to only be walking would still be a fine sport by most reasonable criteria.
I've seen the picture of the female racer at 2:28 a few times. That such a good photo. The amount of emotion there is staggering!
Physics or Philosophy? Is there really a difference? As a student, yes. But not as a hobby.
If we're going to try and start defining things I think starting with a dictionary is probably a good way to go:
athletics (æθˈlɛtɪks)
- n
1. a. track and field events
b. ( as modifier ): an athletics meeting
2. sports or exercises engaged in by athletes
3. the theory or practice of athletic activities and training
So I think you're trying to get at is race-walking is an event within the larger domain of the sport or athletics which is generally termed "track and field" (in the USA).
Next up, a contest to see who can whisper the loudest...
You took inspiration from another comment and thats not allowed
I like how you took a short break from physics in one video. If you get interested in another quirky subject like racewalking, don't be afraid to post a video about it.
Looking at the comments, I'm not sure how many people got that this seemed to be a metaphor ...
Wait, this is a metaphor?!
This channel is just beautiful!
Awesome job, guys, keep it up.
The people in this comment section have such good grammar.
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Talking about motorcycles, can you explain why counter-steering works and why it happens? I've never heard a satisfying enough answer describing the physics behind it.
TL:DR He dosen't know
The one who created this video just managed to underestimate the training and the sweat of thousands of athletes. How reliable is the method of checking the rules can not support that it is not a sport. I admire these people because they are not just athletes but champions. And many racewalkers can do their "funny walk", as you said, faster and longer than the people that actually run.
Why don't they allow them to be airborne for a maximum of 0.1275 seconds at a time and no more than 10.934% of the intire race as long as the leg is strait for a minimum of 0.362 seconds each stride and don't exeeds an average hight of 5.31 cm while cheeting. That way it's a lot easier for everyone to declare the winner.
Or just have them pick up the milk on their way fooling about.
Race walking would be a pretty cool sport if they did use some form of electronic device to know whether an athlete is leaving the ground during the race. To me that is the main difference between running and walking is the fact that in walking you don't lose contact with the ground and in running, you do. To enforce the rule about the supporting leg being strait seems ludicrous to me, if all through the races everybody is violating the contact with the ground rule. If they did enforce that rule the world records would all have to be changed, because ALL of the records were made while cheating.
1:49 QWOP!!!!
(Uptade) Now, in some of the major indoor volleball leagues, the captain or coach can request to roll the replay of the last rally if they consider that the judge have made a poor decision. And the judge can determine based on the replay if his decision was okay. Just saying...
This is not a physics question.
It IS a sport, but a really dumb one. It makes no more sense than running backwards or on your hands. The purpose of racing is to go as fast as possible.
Next thing u know they will make a sport on who can break the speed of light but throw in sets of rules along the way.
***** Can you have a sport that involves becoming mass-less? Seems pretty dangerous.
Awesomerj03 you have to be a fucking dumbass if you think running doesn't involve technique. It's one of the key elements, especially sprinting.
awesomerj03 wow obviously you know nothing about the pursuit of perfect running form among every single athlete
Hi Minutephysics
When will you make that mirrored hollow earth video? I´m sooooo looking forward to it!
Minutephysics dropped the ball on this one. Racewalking is in denial about outrageous flaunting of regulations. If the very definition was to move as fast as you can with a straight front leg and without a random judge deciding you are leaving the ground then fine. But the rule state both feet should be on the ground. Its like saying lets drug test all cyclists, but only use biochemical knowledge and lab equipment from the 70s. Basically racewalking as a sport is a joke.
Hahaha, both feet on the ground :D
+mg305 The rule actually says that no loss of contact with the ground is allowed to be visible to the human eye.
What attracts me to racewalking is that it is a curious combination of exertion and restraint. Imagine you're in 2nd place, one guy just barely ahead, and you're coming up on the finish line. You're trying, straining, doing EVERYTHING YOU CAN to get ahead of that guy... except for the one thing that would take you past him in a second: you can't RUN.
The bans on tech, lying on the ground, etc. basically change that to "you can't run in too obvious a way." And I feel that this breaks the sport.
Racewalking IS a sport ok, I recently won Little Athletics Zone Chamionships for the 1500m race walk for the 4th year in a row, I also beat someone that is 16 or 17 and im only 13!!! It is really fun/hard but it is still a sport.
Aren't you saying that just because you have achieved something in racewalking and would like to validate your accomplishment? I agree that racewalkers are athletes and racewalking takes athletic ability, but to me, racewalking is not a sport.
***** Why?
Ryan Cleary It's almost like running with a handicap. If you watched the video you'd know that most racewalkers don't actually have one foot on the ground at all times. So why don't they just run then? A good majority of the racewalkers I see when I run 5ks are old or simply aren't athletic enough to run. So I guess by definition it's a sport, but to me it only seems like people do it because they aren't good enough or able to run.
The definition of a sport is: An activity involving PHYSICAL exertion and SKILL that is governed by a set of RULES or customs and often undertaken COMPETITIVELY. Marching Band contains all of those capitalized words, it takes skill, we have rules, we have competition, and you try going through weeks of band camp without feeling exhausted.
There is clearly a need for a Ministry of Silly Walks
I understand its place :
1. It is not wise to just run around. Walking is way of self transportation. Speed walking and running is not energetically the same.
2. From point 1: There are gazillion of different running events in athletics therefore introducing walking makes some sense. There are also lots of different kinds of events in gymnastics as well (includes strange stuff).
3. I hate running.
4. It is exiting to follow in 20x times normal speed and curling beats it hands down
5. Arbitrary weird stuff is just cool.
And then there is LoL.
Laughing out loud?
League of legends?
Loudness of the liars?
Given this broad definition of Sport I'd say it's valid to state it either way, speed walking itself is a sport in the sense that it is "an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess" (if bowling counts so should this), but at the same time I could understand the idea of boxing this as an event within a sport or set of sports under the umbrella track and field (games that all seem to focus on individuals only against nature rather directly against other people).
this is just as bad as esports
are you saying that esports dont require any skills ?
Dinesh Kumar skills, yes. Athletic ability, no.
Phillip Dowd but mental ability instead, which is pretty much the equivalent :D
felivanz nope
@@felivanz no, 99 % of professional gamers are illiterate virgins, accept it
so it's like the alternate strokes in swimming, where the freestyle stroke is by far the most efficient but they still do races where you have to use the other ones.
A more similar parallel is the line that you can't cross in the long jump, discus, or shot put; however, they all get multiple tries. It would be incredibly convoluted to have multiple races for racewalkers.
I'm from Ecuador, and our only gold and bronze medals are in Racewalking, won by Jeferson Perez, he was olympic and world champion
Sports (in my own opinion) is a physical activity which has a set of rules and a goal and involves moving muscles to the point in which they need more blood which causes the heart to pump more, more ATP to provide the energy needed, and causes the muscles to tire out and produce lactic acid.
Games vs Sports: Sports are games in which there is a way for an opponent to directly impede their opponent to score/win. In other words, if you can block a shot (basketball, all footballs, hockey sports, etc) it is a sport. Also, if racing one simply has to go faster than the other to impede them winning (ergo, sport). Games on the other hand don't always have this ability (golf, darts, go fish, etc.
It's a game on the computer where you are someone who forgot how to walk and must complete a 100m race using the letters Q, W, O, and P to control the person's legs (it's a lot harder than it sounds). I believe you can also download it on the iPhone or iPod but it's not as good.
"This has nothing to do with physics" seems to be an odd intro for every other video from a channel called MinutePhysics... But I'm not complaining. Love the channel
The point is, that with high speed cameras in race walking, it would be impossible to walk as fast as we do know without breaking the rules. So race walking would be less exhausting as it is now. And then, it would definitely be no sport.
btw: The rule says that "Race walking is a progression of steps so taken that the walker makes contact with the ground so that no visible (to the human eye) loss of contact occurs." That's why only a few race walkers break the rules.
You can racewalk with running shoes, but there are shoes for racewalking. Those have less material to absorb feet impact on ground, are less rigid and with less weight too. Search "race walking shoes" in google.
Also going to just throw this one down here too (included noun def only)
sport
1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
2. a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
4. jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously.
5. mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.
More physics videos please. That's what I subscribed for.
Tennis court 2:15!
Cameras 1:35!
Identifying objects is fun.
Any sports sociology textbook would say an activity is considered sport if: it is competitive, has rules, requires physical skills and abiliities, and the goal is to win.
So yes it is a sport. Nascar, dance comp, and others are also sports. I heard of a sport called chessboxing as well. Just because one doesn't like a sport or beleives it is not competitive enough does not mean it is not a sport
i say if all rules are followed and you can get a clear winner without the use of judges (by time [swimming], points system [tennis], or plain defeat [boxing]) then it is a sport, but if judges are required for determining a winner (cheerleading, dance, any other sort) then it is just a competition
Ha, I have a funny story about racewalking. I'm on the track & field team at my school, and my head coach for indoor track forbids anyone from our team to do the racewalk. Anyway, at one of our meets last season, The racewalk was going on and a few of our teammates were warming up in the outer lanes of the track, and one of my friends said "Hey guys, don't run on the track, there are people walking!" as the racewalkers passed, which was really funny. :p
Its like water polo, as told to me by someone who coached water polo. Grappling and fights are technically illegal, but fouls are only called by a judge above water. Underwater cameras have shown that insane fights occur underwater all the time, but if they started using these underwater cameras to call fouls, there would apparently be a foul every few seconds, and water polo would cease to function.
Weird, but functional. And, any argument used to insult a sport can be used on any sport.
Isn't sport defined as an activity where a single person or a team competes in organized events to win over one another in a set of rules designed to test their physical or mental skill? In this case, it should fall under the category of being a sport
Can you explain annihilation between electrons and positrons? And how positrons were discovered... not sure if I missed a previous video :P
I loved this! But maybe you should make another channel for these videos and immediately let me know what that is.
I don't think the majority of people slouched down onto one very important issue regarding this: the judges don't really judge if you cheated. They are there to determine whether you have a good, proper technique or not. You are being awarded for the proper technique and punished for lack thereof, not judged in regards to cheating.
Damn. You defined "sport" so beautifully
Therese Johaug at 2:27. Cross-country skiing ftw!
I have one important distinction which must be made in order to call anything a sport. Seeing as how I believe sports were originally created in order to allow rival factions to compete against each other without actual bloodshed, and death, the key component is being able to physically alter the outcome. If you cannot physically interfere with your opponent in order to sway the outcome of the event, then it is not a sport, it is simply an activity turned competitive.
Very good. The problem in competitions is if rules are applied equal to all racewalkers.
Infinity isn't necessarily the fastest speed or the longest track distance. Infinity is not a number nor a measurement, but a concept, so it cannot be used in normal mathematical equations.
If you were to rephrase the question by substituting a variable, x, then yes, since the track is x meters long, and the speed of the person is x meters per instant, the person is able to pass x meters in an instant.
Our modern word Sport is an abbreviation of the Middle English Disport which is to entertain oneself or frolic, simply to have fun. So in a classical sense a sport could be anything that entertains, though modern definitions do stipulate that the entertainment should be physical and involve skill. I wonder what level does the physical activity have to be, after all thinking involves the movement of matter and it is a skill, so could thinking be a sport?
Not really, because the difficulty of all the skills and the routine as a whole are decided before you compete, so it's not about a judge's bias. That being said, yes, those scores can be more strict or lenient depending on the judges, but it's not completely arbitrary.
I love how he has a guitar riff instead of a bassline on this one!
Just set some plates that detects pressure in both shoes. If none of the shoes have a determined weight it means that they doesn't have at foot on the ground.
1) So does playing the violin.
2) So is playing the violin. But chess isn't physically exhausting: just mentally. It doesn't make your muscles ache, for example.
3) So is investing in the stock market, for some people.
For me, your "only difference" is the very thing that makes it not a sport, just as being in a car is the only thing that makes motor racing not athletics. Of course, there's nothing disrespectful in thinking that chess isn't a sport.
You could have easily turned this into a physics video. Would it be possible to racewalk according to the one foot on the ground rule at all because we might not ever actually touch anything at the atomic level. The electrons in the two solids would get close, but would repel each other if they got too close. But quantum mechanics says that an electron might occasionally be between the electron an nucleus of another atom at some point. See, physics.
Not so sure about that. *Many* games have defined rules. What matters more is that the focus of games is having fun and the focus of sport is... more complicated (being healthy, having fun, and in pro sport seeing how far human ability goes... probably many more reasons).
It's a bit of a gray area, though, as you might notice.
could you make a video on whether marching band is a sport.
Yes a sport, albeit a silly one. Here's how you make it very easy: A sport has to be an athletic competition with an objective scoring method (i.e. ball in hoop/net/hole, puck in net, ball across line, human across line, etc.). Sorry NASCAR, gymnastics, figure skating, diving, you're all just athletic competitions. Horse racing could be a sport I guess, but the horses are the athletes...
2:20 omg that image with the two guys playing tennis with a soccer ball and no racket
is there any way you can race walk with out the wiggle of the hips? and how could one increase the walking time in the mile?
+grahh jones The wiggle of the hips is so they can raise there front foot higher off the ground.
that can be said about any sport. a judge can be biased and a judge can play favorites. judges being human. though such things are illegal and hard to prove its not unheard of.
Yes, I know this. However neither do the people from whatever dictionary you got your definition. I'm sure there are many different definitions from all over the place that allow for almost any kind of competion or game. So the real question is who decides what definition to use? If I where to say, it is up to the individual in the end, and not some group of english majors.
that would make video games a sport, or doing stand up comedy, or taking a test, or doing a speech, or typing
this was 3minute-existentialism. not minutephysics. loved it
There is this circle of "trendy" science and math guys who think all sports are somehow stupid and useless (most of them read crap like xkcd, by the way). I'm glad that this channel is NOT pandering to those guys. The combination of sports and science opens up endless, incredible possibilities, which the "trendy" science guys are too blind to see.
Love and Respect for the spirit and message of this video ❤
I always thought that to call something a "sport" is to have one thing that is loose and round in a playfield. Baseball, basketball, hockey, football/soccer, American football, and tennis fit this definition.
My question that I have posed before is "what is the difference between a sport and a game?" I consider Golf to be a sport and chess to be a game. Is there a difference? Are all sports games, and all games sports, or is it only a one-way path? I would concede that all sports are games, but I struggle with saying that all games are sports. Anyway... clearly I'm not getting much work done on this Monday...
Guatemala won 2nd place in 2012! I'm so proud of my country!
My own take on the "Is it a sport?" question is that it's a sport if it it's competitive and involves physical skill. So I'd say that race-walking is a sport but caving isn't (not competitive, as far as I'm aware) and nor is chess (no physical skill: it would make no difference if you got somebody else to move the pieces on your command).
In my opinion, a sport is a competitive activity that has physical and mental components. By that definition, racewalking and thumb wrestling are, but arm wrestling, chess, rock-paper-scissors and many (most?) video games aren't (the first is all physical, the others are all mental).
To anyone who doubts race-walking's credential's as an endurance event ... watch the last half of this:
MONDIALI DI ROMA 1987: IL DRAMMA DELLA MARCIA FEMMINILE
Could you do what the Racewalking Olympians do? If it's a challenge to do and if it requires a span of time to perform and train for, than it is a sport.
For woodwinds and brass, etc., the extreme amount of lung capacity and breath control can be tiring for people not accustomed to playing an instruments. Percussion is physical, obviously. I'm not saying it's a sport, that's just dumb to say, but I resent it when someone says it requires no physical exertion. That is simply not true.
This was an excellent video! Something else for a change, but still very, very good! :)