Battle for Rome - Were Barbarian invasions a Peaceful settlement or Violent conquest

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    🚩 The collapse of the Western Roman Empire has since the very emergence of modern historiography been viewed as a rapid and violent period of decay. The central role in the ruin of the Western provinces of the Empire has often been attributed to the so-called “Barbarians” or people living beyond the Rhine and Danube frontiers. The view of a violent and bloody takeover of the empire by unorganized mobs of technologically and culturally inferior tribes has since gotten under a lot of deserved scrutiny.
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    📢 Narrated by David McCallion
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    Sources
    · Eugippius, , and Hermann Sauppe. Vita Sancti Severini. Berolini: apvd Weidmannos, 1877. Print.
    · Brown, Peter. The World of Late Antiquity: Ad 150-750. New York: Norton, 1989. Print.
    · Ward-Perkins, Brayan. The Fall of Rome: And the End of Civilization (pp. 3-54). Oxford University Press ,2006
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  • @HistoryMarche
    @HistoryMarche  2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

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    • @mehmetozkan1276
      @mehmetozkan1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you make a battle of manzikert

    • @heman691
      @heman691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @mitch8072
      @mitch8072 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @METALFREAK03
      @METALFREAK03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mitch8072 the sun is British.

    • @hh8575
      @hh8575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Şo in other words,you chose to spread western nazi antirussian propaganda...This is last time i watched your channel.

  • @tadoshka5170
    @tadoshka5170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Rome 2nd Punic War :
    I just lost 1/6 of my male population and conquered Carthage
    Rome 5th Century :
    Help, I lost 20.000 men to the Barbarians

    • @youvebeengreeked
      @youvebeengreeked 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      The Chad Republic
      VS
      the virgin western empire

    • @raidang
      @raidang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@youvebeengreeked based Eastern Roman Empire reconquering Africa and Italy with 8000 men

    • @raidang
      @raidang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Even worse it was 1/5 male population lost

    • @youvebeengreeked
      @youvebeengreeked 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@raidang the virgin western empire
      Vs
      The Chad Roman Republic
      Vs
      THE LAD BELISARIVS

    • @maizen1403
      @maizen1403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's always amaze me how resilient they are and how they managing a large army. You can always seeing that Rome expeditionary force usually could mustering around 50.000 troops while Medieval Kingdoms usually could only just mustering around 10.000 troops

  • @omarbradley6807
    @omarbradley6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    The fall of Rome is obiously a product of their own decline, stagnation, both military and political, civil wars, failures to asimilate the others, to enforce their laws, just opened the way to barbarian groups to scramble for a good slice of the empire.
    Also it is important to mention the cities being overwhelmed, and the fields deserted wich caused a lot of problems to the "civilization", thus a constant flow of migrants was needed to support the Romans, but they keep their shares and even expanded them, forcing a massive migration from the cities to the fields, and leaving the system without proper order, with groups clashing against each other, the cities sudenly were abandoned and the people searched for any form of sustain away from the "Roman" government who was at Mediolanum, and then at Ravenna. So every attack at the end of the day caused terrible damage to the soils, population and cities alike, until it was just a rump state, the murder of Majorian and the usurpation, certainly was the last straw on Rome.

    • @drakehashimoto685
      @drakehashimoto685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep, numerous factors at play, long term and recently apparent occurred. The assassination of Majorian was certainly a major factor to the demise of Western Rome, though, of course, with all things considered in the factors and people who could have at least sustained the Western Roman Empire for some more time, who would have known how long the West could have held out had things gone to plan, at least to an extent.

    • @youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629
      @youtubeshadowbannedmylasta2629 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      migration did not save rome it ended rome.

    • @madhurawat155
      @madhurawat155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drakehashimoto685 Also don't forget Stilicho and Aetius, had they lived longer, the empire too would've lasted longer, and might have completely averted the crisis by the time of Justinian?

    • @drakehashimoto685
      @drakehashimoto685 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madhurawat155 For certain, the way things could have gone is indeterminate, but it most probably would have turned out differently. Stilicho and Aetius thankfully, are getting the recognition they deserve on channels like these, which is what other individuals from other states, regardless of period, equally deserve as well.

    • @jaaackaissa1633
      @jaaackaissa1633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the meaning of the word barbarian and is it used to insult me
      And what peoples were called barbarian?
      Do you think the name berber comes from the word barbarian?

  • @HikmaHistory
    @HikmaHistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Glad to see you in the playlist too! I like what you do visually when you incorporate the opinion of historians!

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    This is an incredibly complicated question to try and answer.
    One thing that becomes clear more and more however, is that the Romans brought a lot of their problems upon themselves.

    • @phillhansen7238
      @phillhansen7238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Seems awfully familiar to me.

    • @pjq420
      @pjq420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's more with transparently seen passes through the crystal clear picture is there are those whom chosen their fate sealed together with them romans for being the repeated offenders. Its all gonna ne the same ending of optionbased regardless which civilizations it is

    • @pjq420
      @pjq420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kleinenfuchse5365 thank you for asking but I never needed someone else to do that for me

    • @pjq420
      @pjq420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kleinenfuchse5365 that's what you get for your big brain question

    • @alaskaoalaska
      @alaskaoalaska ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's actually not complicated at all in spite of the way it's presented in the video. Germanic barbarians raiding, raping, pillaging, settling, conquering, enslaving, etc. All of that was pretty straightforward for the people who lived through those events. The only reason anyone would want to complicate a topic like this is because immigration and it's negative impacts are a sensitive topic. Historiographically speaking the only complications are modern politics and how it affects the integrity of scholars who want to grab attention to themselves with outlandish claims such as the ones that have been made (as well as debunked) in the '80s. Bryan Ward Perkins did a pretty good job in the 2000s of laying out this problem in his work The Fall of Rome but as per this video, historians still feel this pathetic need to try and warp history to make political statements like: immigration isn't that bad.

  • @Sebastian-bp8hu
    @Sebastian-bp8hu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Source wikipedia: Alaric was born on Peuce Island at the mouth of the Danube Delta in present-day Romania and belonged to the noble Balti dynasty of the Thervingian Goths

    • @AllTheCoolNamesWereTaken
      @AllTheCoolNamesWereTaken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Although correct, don't use Wikipedia as a source of information, it's usually correct om a lot of things but as it's up to the community to update the articles and create them, it can be heavily biased for certain things or be based off rumours and portrayed as fact.

    • @Sebastian-bp8hu
      @Sebastian-bp8hu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AllTheCoolNamesWereTaken Truth is, we can't know for sure until more archeology is done. In that respect we need to discover more on both sides of Danube river between present-day Romania and Bulgaria (they allegedly start from there and sacked Rome). These two countries however have "other" priorities at the moment.

  • @andreascovano7742
    @andreascovano7742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    12:40 I have to disagree. Numerous laws implemented by the germanic kingdoms, even the extremely romanized ostrogths, were absolutely discriminatory on a racial level. The germanic tribes did not allow for themselves to be integrated into the lower society, treated the romans as second class citizens (soon to be serfs), often did not allow even marriages to take place between romans and germans, created a military aristocracy that was not beholden to the locals and who's own structure internally kept being the same. Some persecutions by the Arians took place (even with the more moderate Theodoric during his later years).
    At best (under the ostrogoths (and more specifically under theodoric)) roman and germanic laws coexisted but were never allowed to cross over, and at worst under the Longobards, the roman laws were utterly eliminated with the tribalistic Faida system of justice and even harsher race laws. There's a reason why the Roman population of North Africa did not fight and happily welcomed belisarius, why spain was conquered so rapidly by the arabs, why the franks ruled southern gaul so quickly and even italy (who was "treated nicely" only by theodoric) who we hear so much how cool they received belisarius's invasion, still rebelled against the ostrogoths (Milan, one of the former capitlas of the roman empire got a brutal sacking it would not recover from decades (to the point that the longobards preferred Pavia as their capital) and the same reason the longobards fell in 1 year after charlemagnes conquest without the rebellions regions such as saxony gave them).
    Oddly enough the only kingdom who didnt fall was the Franks, who instead fully integrated the local roman nobility (to be fair, the gallor roman nobility was already a military aristocracy since the 200s) and converted to Nicean Christianity.

    • @omarbradley6807
      @omarbradley6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Intresting who the destroyers of the civilization pretend to call themselves the "master race"

    • @ingold1470
      @ingold1470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Was the Visigothic military elite still in northern Spain at the time of the Reconquista?

    • @imperator7828
      @imperator7828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Well said

    • @andreascovano7742
      @andreascovano7742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@ingold1470 The visigothic capital was in toledo, the Nobility was almost completely wiped out. If there was a stonger northern power base, we'd have seen a larger kingdom to the north, rather then the Asturias rebellion

    • @Komnenos83
      @Komnenos83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Thank you for this comment, very interesting

  • @youvebeengreeked
    @youvebeengreeked 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    *There’s FAR too much pro-Roman bias inside of me to give the barbarians ANY sympathetic leeway, and I’m ok with that.* 🦅

  • @JC-mx9su
    @JC-mx9su 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    HistoryMarche, I can't wait for your next videos such as:
    Battle of Mezokeresztes Part 3
    Hannibal: Second Punic War Part 19
    Rise of Augustus Caesar Part 4

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The idea that the Roman Empire saw a cataclysmic destruction at the hands of naked, unwashed barbarian tribes, tearing down the pillars of civilization and plundering the eternal city to oblivion was a picture created by historians from the Renaissance Period, who for their part were mostly reacting to the contemporary invasions of Italy by the French, Spanish and Holy Roman Emperor in the 15th and 16th centuries. The fact is long before its fall, Rome saw an enormous amount of acculturation, as many Goths, Franks and Vandals spent quite some time living in the Roman Empire before they took it over. In fact Alaric the Goth, who sacked Rome in 410 C.E had actually served in the Foederati, was a one time ally of Emperor Theodosius and had been seeking the position of commander in chief of the Roman Army as part of his demands during the Second Siege of Rome.

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are close to find the true... this video is just brainwash... no concordance with the real history... lease consider to read the paper books and then you will understand why in italy and spain and saouth france noadays the language is "germanic" as sweden and not romanian as in Gothic Land Romania... nice isentit??

  • @ryanharris1052
    @ryanharris1052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very interesting video. I liked how you engaged with the debate and cited both primary and secondary sources to answer and important and relay interesting question. I also liked how you critiqued sources and acknowledged the possible biases.

  • @nikoarcher1243
    @nikoarcher1243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is an outstanding video you guys just keep getting better and better!

  • @robanderson8264
    @robanderson8264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for making these videos! Keep up the good work

  • @metalpsyche82
    @metalpsyche82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like these monothematic videos about non-battle topics

  • @historyrhymes1701
    @historyrhymes1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved helping you out with this video!

  • @Solicarako
    @Solicarako 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cool video, but what does this have to do with anything Ukraine related?

    • @shanemooney6118
      @shanemooney6118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It doesn’t. They plugged a project they are working on and when you click the hashtag it takes you there. Kinda how marketing works

    • @Prespanda
      @Prespanda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@shanemooney6118 The amount of people that fail to understand that is mind boggling

  • @RENATVS_IV
    @RENATVS_IV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing video. I didn't know about Stilicho, a very important event, given that other Germanic soldiers as Arminius also joined to Germanic tribes to face the Empire. That event with Stilicho could have been a breaking point.

  • @sergioacevedo2254
    @sergioacevedo2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I often wonder just how different would history be if Honorius was never emperor.

    • @madhurawat155
      @madhurawat155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That would've happened if Theodosius was never the emperor, which in turn would've happened if Valens hadn't died in Adrianople, which in turn would've happened if some random Roman officers hadn't unnecessarily extorted the Goths.
      P.s: I know that Theodosius was a good emperor, but you get the point right.

  • @AwakenedShepard
    @AwakenedShepard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wish these military history channels would stay out of modern conflicts. But I can only dream.
    Oh well...

  • @danieldmelniki8834
    @danieldmelniki8834 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grateful for this Playlist! @Kings and Generals & Company!!

  • @LookHereMars
    @LookHereMars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great episode HM. Appreciate your work. 👍

  • @HellenicWolf
    @HellenicWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was an excellent video, much imporoved graphics, excellent music, narration is top, and the story line great. GREAT WORK!!!

  • @goealshafay425
    @goealshafay425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good video 👍
    I like how you incoperated the debate between the historians at the beginning

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you all for this collab in this big project!

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no connection with the real history, just brainwash and stupid explanations... the same lies then the same lies today!

  • @andyfinney4535
    @andyfinney4535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the videos 😀 genuinely enjoy the content

  • @humo89
    @humo89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content as always!

  • @freefromthedark6784
    @freefromthedark6784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Formally ceded also doesn't mean there wasn't an imbalance of power....Rome literally couldn't afford to fight certain tribes by the 5 the and 6th centuries because it's moral structure had crumbled, it's armies we're weak, and there was no cohesion politically.....formally cedeing can also mean " you're gonna give me this shit, and act like were equals about it or I'll destroy you"

  • @EJobuu
    @EJobuu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wow! Talk about the amount of material and complexity of it that you all must have had to go thru and then to put together it all together into yet another logical and easy flowing narrative presentation. No wonder your videos are the very best. Thank you HistoryMarche !

    • @Schwitzmaul
      @Schwitzmaul ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow what a fanboy. Talking about a okeyisch history video like birth of christ

  • @dukesilver702
    @dukesilver702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing that content about Rome will never run out

    • @spartaleonidas7132
      @spartaleonidas7132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @black rabbi Yup. The ukraine portion is just a small segment. Basicly they are donating to various charities for Ukraine.

    • @thescottishanimeguy9946
      @thescottishanimeguy9946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @black rabbi your loss.

  • @TorvusVae
    @TorvusVae 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm unclear on what this had to do with Ukraine, lol

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great episode! ⚔🏹⚔

  • @reeyees50
    @reeyees50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:52 Ok kings and generals, kinda rude

  • @marymacginty4399
    @marymacginty4399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Amazing video and analysis! I’ve learnt a lot. I was writing my semester paper on the fall of the Western Roman Empire. There are also numerous examples E. A. Thompson puts forward that a-lot of the empires threats where internal, due to the decentralisation of imperial authority at the hands of the regional landed aristocracy. Moreover, there are multiple examples of where the Romans could have starved the barbarians into submission (E.A. Thompson, 1982., pg. 26-27). However, they hopelessly needed a source of manpower and the foederati could provide it. This led to the mass settling of the Germanic tribes. The barbarians, rather than being the cause of the fracturing imperial framework, became a consequence of it.

    • @eazy8579
      @eazy8579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is an excellent point; in many ways, barbarian troops were more reliable than Roman soldiers, since they were willing to fight for less pay so long as they had land, and being tied to the land they were given as pay, they were less likely to join a usurpation, they just wanted to get paid and live on the piece of land

    • @drakehashimoto685
      @drakehashimoto685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, yep, that's true. I'm glad that the simplistic idea that Rome fell due to Barbarian invasions is getting rejected more and more. Of course, we both know that nothing falls instantly, nor for just a reason or two, but rather a case of long term and recently apparent factors at play that led to the fall of the Western Roman Empire. Gosh, I love complex topics like this :)

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you learnd only what the jesuits whant to show you... you have to step over this schit... no real history shared here... please consider to find the true history stories in the paper book and confront with this rubbish... pass no longer what they try to explain, and the true what was realy happend then! no expectation to be so false in this brainwash movie!

  • @86godhand
    @86godhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Theres was a cultural and artistic boom in the Iberian peninsula in the 4th-5th century as well. Also Procopius and many other writers of the time wrote about how brutal the roman army was to peoples under their control. Without a doubt all armies except king totila and belisarius acted brutal towards the plebs

    • @mysticnovelbro
      @mysticnovelbro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Procopius also said Justinian was a demon-baby

    • @mabeSc
      @mabeSc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And when they ceased to be brutal, also known as efficient, they were taken over. A single inferior tribe, both technologically and culturally, wouldn't have been able to do much. As tribal federations and such formed then, even if the technologically inferior tribes would have owned arms of inferior quality (or simply less of it), their number made up for it.

    • @freefromthedark6784
      @freefromthedark6784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah um "all armies" is a ridiculous assumption...let's try to be objective

    • @86godhand
      @86godhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@freefromthedark6784 not pretending i know anything… most? The fact is there was peninsula wide famine and many many riders and clergymen expressed how generally armies treated civilians in those times.

    • @86godhand
      @86godhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mysticnovelbro yeah but if youre going to go there then you can just discredit at least 50% of writers/historians from antiquity. Between religion and not understand they spoke/ wrote wild fallacies. Dont be like that

  • @sevoo1579
    @sevoo1579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish you would continue the story of thoses kingdoms and how they evolved

  • @Andrevhmachado
    @Andrevhmachado 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video

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    @user-jm3sk8gy4s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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      @Gadanfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      أهلاً وسهلاً

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      @alim1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      موجودين 🤙

  • @redboy4315
    @redboy4315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this drawings and this background music are well pleased in my ears and eyes. Thank you

  • @SolidAvenger1290
    @SolidAvenger1290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video covering the Fall of Rome & the Western Roman Empire.
    What makes HistoryMarche much more unique than say other channels like Epic History is that they understand that history can be written by non-bias & bias scholars. They keep asking the big questions about events & the decisions by historical figures while others tend to glass over other these critical details that might likely contradict the current simple narrative by modern historians & their respective nation's POV of events.
    It's typically up to the general public to analyze and determine who was actually "The Great", "The Blessed", The flawed" or "The Terrible", etc in history.
    The simple perception led by historians tend to get rejected as more people began to absorb other details covering historical events and likely their ancestors

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      @Glogb3100_records ปีที่แล้ว

      So we bad country or wat this talking about country that took over centuries is they good country I ain't know we were violent I'm 8% of that crazy I'm England & Northwestern Europe 8%

  • @mypassion830
    @mypassion830 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    More Hannibal 🙏 I really enjoy your work.

  • @duelinglectrics
    @duelinglectrics 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice two of the best on project Ukraine history marche and kings and generals

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    @thepirateorc3235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a great day when historymarche uploads

  • @user-dg9xy9sm5e
    @user-dg9xy9sm5e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roman Empire in the 2nd century: Civil wars can't stop me.
    Roman Empire in the 5th century: Shit, we lost 20000 soldiers to barbarians

  • @tph12
    @tph12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job as always!!

  • @Ash-iy3xc
    @Ash-iy3xc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    does this mean they will be doing donation drive for Palestinian ppl too?

    • @Ash-iy3xc
      @Ash-iy3xc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haraldsigurdsson1232 why dont you go watch a 14 words video and sod off

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video

  • @colterdenison6364
    @colterdenison6364 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the name of the music that was mainly used in this video? It's intense!

  • @veritasetcaritas
    @veritasetcaritas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your collaboration on this project! It's great to see the ancient history of a lesser known region covered.

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this video is brainwash... no true history... please consider to read the genuine paper books before to test yourself with this bullshit!

  • @annieflatliner6295
    @annieflatliner6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive graphics 👏🏻👌🏻😊

  • @jamescarr6324
    @jamescarr6324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Won't watch anything from kings and generals BUT I really enjoy your work

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    @cryptoswithpotential181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Hello Mister. We would like to peacefully cease your house and kick you out of it" the intruder asked nicely

  • @Belriose97
    @Belriose97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my opinion Western Rome fell due to its economy, lowering taxes and keeping them like that for many years, printing as much money as they could, not controlling inflation, subsidy when not necessary, poor tax collection and a overpriced military spendings. All of these creates a circle that only modern economists can understand by studying capitalism and historical disasters. Only Eastern Rome, due to its higher geographical GDP, and proper tax management survived. Let us not forget that Rome brought to the world not just culture, military and law, but also economics.

  • @theElectricthrusts
    @theElectricthrusts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and great cause!

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your stuff man so glad to work with you

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      brain wash... only lies... nothing real to find good in this video... only bullshit! no accordance with the paper books...

  • @Syllaeus
    @Syllaeus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Battle of Allia (390 bce)
    Cimbrian War (113 bce)
    That’s all you need to know.

  • @HistorySkills
    @HistorySkills 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is an amazing initiative. I am proud to be part of this collaboration and hoping we can make a little bit of a difference to some people’s lives.

  • @nohandlenotme
    @nohandlenotme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for keeping truth of our history told as it truly happened!

    • @nohandlenotme
      @nohandlenotme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The history best described is better than none described at all.

  • @syedsakibulhaque42
    @syedsakibulhaque42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    please do a series on NADER SHAH'S CAMPAIGNS

  • @pkz420
    @pkz420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait.. Rome fell because of unchecked immigration?
    I don't think that's going to be a popular take.

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      brainwash this video... nothing real to use from it!

  • @erichaagenstad4750
    @erichaagenstad4750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thesis of peaceful Germanic settling in the Roman Empire has more to do with current year politics than it does with historical record.

    • @Ghreinos
      @Ghreinos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why do you think so many germanic tribes allied with rome, traded wit rome and even fought for Rome, most notably against the huns, where more Germanics than romans fought and yes they also sometimes fought germanics themselves, the best exmaple was Stilicho. Just read about him and you will shake your head how dumb and greedy the last west roman emperors were.

  • @andrejlevkovitch6117
    @andrejlevkovitch6117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for supporting Ukrain - it is very significant. We live at historical times... Unfortunately

    • @vitorpereira9515
      @vitorpereira9515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The people of Ukraine is not alone. 🇺🇦🇧🇷

  • @barrydysert2974
    @barrydysert2974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feeding the AlGoreRythm !:-)
    ⚡️🙏⚡️

  • @nothanks5264
    @nothanks5264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An amazing video as always! Can you do a video on the Roman identity in the former Western Roman Empire after the fall? Like Roman identity after 476 and into the high Middle Ages?

    • @madhurawat155
      @madhurawat155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For a time, little changed for most ordinary Romans. Their Germanic overlords were brutal towards many but not all, they retained old Roman tiltles and sweared allegiance to Constantinople (at least in name). Eastern Romans in particular stayed completely Romans, so much so that some argue that they never lost their Romanness and retained it all the way till 1453 !

  • @m.hughmungus121
    @m.hughmungus121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @2:00
    Isn't this the West's foreign student system ?
    "Come to our universities" and earn 6-figures...where you can buy land (that was meant for an American)

  • @nthnymartucci
    @nthnymartucci ปีที่แล้ว

    brilliant

  • @voltor3956
    @voltor3956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My respects from Ukraine 🤝

  • @F40PH-2CAT
    @F40PH-2CAT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Violent. Jeez. Next obvious question?

  • @roahforeva
    @roahforeva ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked and subbed! You guys are great man!

  • @michaelbizzarro624
    @michaelbizzarro624 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo king, you dropped this comment 👑

  • @catalinsoare1261
    @catalinsoare1261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the lack of sources will always leave room for assumptions. only archeological discoveries can shed more light.

  • @ComboMuster
    @ComboMuster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I do not understand why modern 'historians' dismiss contemporary sources of the age and replace it with their 'take' on what happened. Life conditions and mentality is fundamentally different from 21st century therefore there is absolutely no way modern 'historians' can possibly judge what happened then thru their soft, sedentary and subdued lifestyle. Life then was a constant battle for survival and there was no mercy shown by conquerors towards their conquered. Even civilized cultures like Roman Empire were particularly brutal in their conquests.

    • @Ian-yf7uf
      @Ian-yf7uf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The reason historians do that is they have preconceived ideas and force it in their field of study.

    • @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
      @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Ian-yf7uf ancient scholars are infamous for there basis that is why modern Historian's don't take their words for granted

    • @Luisite98
      @Luisite98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You have to take into consideration that sources lies, everyone has an angle. Just look at events that are happening right now in Ukraine. The Russian says one thing and the Ukranians and NATO says another... There is always a grain of thruth in what the sources says but you cannot simply follow whatever they are saying to the letter, because you need to contrast what they are saying with other sources, as well as to know the author, his leanieacies and the objective of his work. In recounting the fall of the Empire we have a problem, we dont have contemporary authors that could tell us the story from the "Barbarians" side. So believing those sources to the letter it would be like just hearing what Russia is saying about his invassion and saying that is what happend. Its obvious that you would not get the whole picture and some of the events would even be exagerations or even false. So here, we have to rely in other sourcess such as Archaeology or indirect sources to complement our theory and have a more complete picture of what really happened, and not just what they told us what happened.

    • @ComboMuster
      @ComboMuster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Luisite98 Some of what you say makes sense, however we live in an age of lies, history and every bit of info is politicized. BUT in those days there was absolutely no political interest on the part of chroniclers their goal was to relate the events the best they could, there was no agenda, no bullshite narrative to push. What I am saying is that you cannot dismiss ALL the sources as these 'historians' do, if you have multiple sources saying the same thing then must be the truth.

    • @Ian-yf7uf
      @Ian-yf7uf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl that's true, but historians also invent egalitarian lesbian matriarchies like the Minoans even though there's plenty of evidence that is false.

  • @HistoryfortheAges
    @HistoryfortheAges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice project. I made a short about Ukraine and Russia a couple months ago to give my viewers and students a basic background of recent events. I don't have many viewers, so it is nice to see some larger channels teaching about this topic.

    • @TKOS96
      @TKOS96 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @علي ياسر Typical Muscovite talking points. Long ago our ancestors were part of the same country, so now I'll conquer you and impose my backward regime on you.

  • @mrlancetnik5383
    @mrlancetnik5383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    uhha so the Roman civilisation colapsed because of incontrolled influx of forign culture, completatly incomaptible with local, I think I heared of that somwhere...

  • @AlexC-ou4ju
    @AlexC-ou4ju 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's so sad to see roman lands in the west attacked plundered and sacked by the hordes from the east. Fortunately Roman culture endured and flourished.

    • @johnnyboy3410
      @johnnyboy3410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah who knew letting tribals waltz in and rob you and go back home would be good, Aurelian knew what’s up when he pursued the Goths and destroyed their homeland

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry haven’t been around lately, I always miss the beginning of the invasions but I’m always there at the end of the war 😁👍

  • @thefisherking78
    @thefisherking78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honorius. What a clown 🤡

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      enyhow this video is brainwash... not true history!

  • @cjclark1208
    @cjclark1208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That question is incredibly complex, essentially both. There’s examples of Rome letting “barbarian” people’s enter its territory and settle but of course they were abused, treated as 2nd class and had high taxes among other disrespect and there were many “barbarian tribes” (Germanic, Ostrogoth, Visigoth, Pechneg, Vandals etc) that came in successive waves of hostile invasion and migration. Pushed into Imperial lands from marauding steppe war bands and other fierce tribes. Huns and Alans for example just to name a few.

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you have no ideea what was happend then... isentit? please read the genuine paper book and let this lies to die slowly... this is just brainwash...

  • @albertpool9814
    @albertpool9814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jordanes said the ghots were ambushed in the way to gaul , so they drive back and sack Rome.

  • @Gadanfer
    @Gadanfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When are you going to show us an arabian battles

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Working on it.

    • @alim1977
      @alim1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      الله حيو أسامة

    • @Gadanfer
      @Gadanfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alim1977 الله يبقيك

  • @halalballer9273
    @halalballer9273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello can you make a video in the future about muslims conquering constantinople? Just a suggestion thank youu

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job.

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this video is brainwash... no true history showen here!

  • @michaelmele3954
    @michaelmele3954 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait so ... the weakness that led to the influx of Germans was due to civil wars between competing emperors. The dissolution of the republic and the ego of Caesar was the root cause of the eventual collapse. I'd love to see a video about the transition from republic to empire. Was it an inevitable change based on socio economic factors, or was it an avoidable occurrence forced into existence by a cadre of individuals?

  • @jwink7795
    @jwink7795 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ".. . and if ya didnt stick around until the end.. . well fuck ya."
    - hm

  • @carterschell9518
    @carterschell9518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video!

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      another day in brainwash world!

    • @carterschell9518
      @carterschell9518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hitmann4013 elaborate please.

  • @jaaackaissa1633
    @jaaackaissa1633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    قبل ثانية واحدة
    What is the meaning of the word barbarian and is it used to insult me
    And what peoples were called barbarian?
    Do you think the name berber comes from the word barbarian?

  • @theironknight597
    @theironknight597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a great narrator especially during Caesar's Civil War series.

  • @fenrir7878
    @fenrir7878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reason the cover Ukraine is not because of the ethnic history but the geography. Historically, the "barbarians" were Germanic, Proto-Slavic, and Hunnic tribes, many of which lived in modern Ukraine. The Roman empire eastern border was past the Danube and Romania, going into Moldova and Western Ukraine. So yea, it's relevant. Great video.

    • @johnnyboy3410
      @johnnyboy3410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no, Roman border was most of the times around the Danube, I don’t mind the part about Ukraine so don’t think I’m just russian propagandaist like some people in the comments

  • @Flavius_Belisarius
    @Flavius_Belisarius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I support the current thing. 😐

  • @matthewexline6589
    @matthewexline6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think that the biggest takeaway from this video should be... who gives a shit if the Roman lands were granted to the Germanic tribes or not? Rome conquered the lands around itself just as mercilessly as it itself became conquered, so who cares? The point is that since Rome acquired it's territory through a might-makes-right policy, then it isn't "wrong" or "unjust" for anyone to take their land away from them under that same exact pretense. Of course, some might argue that Rome often liked to invent false pretense prior to it's military campaigns, which is true, but that still doesn't offer any additional form of legitimacy to anyone with a fully functioning brain.

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      rome do this also today... nothing new... only a brainwash from the crazzy guys who lead us today... jesuits and barbarians too... that they call nomadic barbarian tribes where in fact: noble, clever and just scythians... good luck seaching the true!

  • @Vandelberger
    @Vandelberger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how long the Longbards kept to Heathenry in Italy.

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      as long the bart was there... longobards means long barts...

    • @Vandelberger
      @Vandelberger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hitmann4013 I read sources that claim it was a derogatory term for their long beards. The tribe wanted to reflect Wotan or Odin, so much that even the women would braid their hair around their faces in ceremony.

  • @romelnegut2005
    @romelnegut2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A huge project involving alot of people. Congrats on that!

    • @hitmann4013
      @hitmann4013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      brainwash... no true history!

  • @TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776
    @TheBuckeyeHistoryGuy1776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does this sound so familiar………..

  • @oriffel
    @oriffel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    neat

  • @MCorpReview
    @MCorpReview 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There’s literally a total war rome dlc called barbarians invasion

  • @davidhughes8357
    @davidhughes8357 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those dang beerbellyons

  • @jonathantshibula9627
    @jonathantshibula9627 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One day, I lost control of my body. While sober and still being fully conscious, God started speaking to me and He said "follow me or die." I don't know you or what you've been through, but you matter. I grew up in church always hearing about God but I decided to do my own thing. Doing drugs and chasing girls, among other things. I did it for years and I was depressed for years.. after being arrested I stopped doing drugs... that's when God scared me straight, for years I had the opportunity to accept Jesus as Lord but I never did, so God had to wake me up. After all these years I'm glad God said what He said. It was like someone pushing another person out of the way of a speeding car, to the person that was pushed it might seem rude.. but after that person gets a hold of themselves and looks back, they will realize that they needed to be pushed. Jesus Christ loves you and so do I.
    God bless you

  • @KH-xn6uo
    @KH-xn6uo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    love the videos but, would be way better if you stayed off the BS Ukraine lies..

  • @beepboop204
    @beepboop204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @mouradhamza1931
    @mouradhamza1931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    project Palastine NAKBA(calamaty) !

  • @jvonhousen3055
    @jvonhousen3055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta bring trinkets to the overlords eh?